Love your channel Josh. I have a cost saving tip for you regarding your mushrooms. What I do is buy the spawn one and only one time for $20. Then I go to Lowe’s and buy some red oak plugs for a few dollars more. I boil the plugs to kill any bacteria and to get the wood moist. Then I put the plugs in the bag with the spawn. Bingo more inoculated plugs. I keep the spawn in my refrigerator in a double freezer bag. I’ve had the same spawn now for 5-6 years and have inoculated 100s of logs. All those delicious mushrooms for just 20 bucks and a little sweat. I call that a deal. That’s how we do it down here in the Ozarks.
We've got tons of Black Jack trees on our farm here that's going to be cut for future firewood, glad I have seen this informative video, that offers us another option, as to using it So glad you gave us a heads-up as to what time of year to start this project, thanks so much from a fellow Sandhill Carolinian.
A fella I know, built a tin coverd grow shed for his mushrooms, equipped with a water misting system. Tin covered on 3 sides and a roof, with a tarp cover on the 4th side as the entrance. Nice job, Josh!!
You just showed me something I didn't know before and I have to try doing that and see how it turns out. I thank you for showing us how it is done and maybe I can make my own logs and get some mushrooms growing at my place.
Hey Josh thank you so much for the video never knew you can grow shiitake mushrooms from a tree but now I know from watching your video very interesting I just learned something new today like they say you never stop learning you learn something new everyday but not really every day every once in awhile
My father in law does a bunch of logs, I bought him an angle grinder for the drill bit. Makes it pretty nice drilling holes if you are doing a bunch. Love shiitakes... Good work man!
Now that is awsome I love mushrooms especially wild mushrooms so I will be doing this so I will be wanting to grab a kit or 2 ..so thank you for sharing bud and godbless
Alberto....you might want to learn how to spell CULTIVATED before you go calling someone else a dummy. Please be respectful on this channel, this is a place for learning and growing together. You just learned how to spell CULTIVATED .....see how great this can be! Wooooooo!!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer thank you for saying somthing to peaple whom say things out of the way ..I try not to say anything to peaple like that ..I find it useless to respond to peaple like that so thank you much and godbless
Brian Meattey there's a neat channel called "Learn Your Land" that goes in great depth about finding, harvesting, and preparing wild mushrooms. Oh yeah SAFETY also. Best not forget about that because some of these mushrooms are poisonous. Really enjoyed this video also and I'm going to go to the link and get me some kits also. Will be a fun and delicious project. Thanks Stoney Ridge! 😁👍
When farming mushrooms like this you want to inoculate and seal the logs ASAP as the longer you leave the logs exposed the higher chance of a wild fungi infecting them. Depending on the trees you have you can grow different types of mushrooms so don't fear if you lack maple and oak. If you are growing lots of logs a section of split rail fence between 2 trees or 2 posts makes a good spot to lean the logs on for fast inspections. For fungi the term is fruiting when the mushrooms start sprouting Have you thought about growing ginseng in the woods also? It is a plant and forget about it till you want to harvest in 10-20 years for the most part other then watching for stealing.
Mate. Thank you so much for your vids. My daughter and I watch a new one every night in our bed time routine. If you feel like it shout out to Evelyn in a vid. otherwise keep up the awesome work mate . Mick from Australia
you want the sap to be in the log, so you don't want a log that's a dead fall..if it's a blown down tree that's fine. Just cut them to about 4-5ft in length...about as big as your leg or a medium size mixing bowl
nice work! I stagger my rows so that the plugs on each row are also four to six inches apart. I also only use trees that have been downed recently and naturally, but I'm on enough land to do that. Also, make sure the plugs don't mold or dry which happened to me because of delays. thanks
I'm glad I watched the video to get the right pronunciation of that word Shitake. I was reading it entirely differently. Have you tried the 18volt Fuel Milwaukee chainsaw?
You might also like trying to grow some Chicken of the Woods. I've never cultivated them, but I've gathered and eaten them. They are extremely good. Shiitakes are extremely good too though. Enjoyed the video.
So after you plug the logs you have to wait 1.5yrs then soak the logs and then you have mushrooms in a day or two? Just making sure I hear that correctly
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer thanks much for the videos! If you ever need a hand processing a pig again, let me know as I would like to learn and only about 3hrs from the MTs in central NC. Thanks again!
Yep...if you don't keep an eye on them when they start to bloom out...that's why I say put them in a place that you visit frequently for sure....or you'll find half your crop eaten lol
Excellent question. Well heck. My dear and turkeys come up to the door and look in at us. Reckon I'll have to fence in an area for my project. Great question and thanks for the answer. Good info.👍
Can you do this in tree stumps? And just bring a candle out to the woods with you near by the house? Also, what if you have a pile of already rotting logs? Can you use them in rotting logs and have them grow then?
a few weeks before the first frost...you could probably use large scrub oak branches or maybe cottonwood...lived in Ogden area for almost 10 years myself....not much hardwood around those parts
If you could only do that with Moral Mushrooms, then you would be making it a living. Thanks for showing this I never knew this and going to have to try this.
Mark Eckelkamp maybe not like this but I'm sure they can be grown domestically. I'm going to find out how and do it. This is all fantastic exciting info.
Plant them once....have them for 10 years v/s going to the store and buying them. I prefer growing my own food...it just tastes better to me, plus it's fun and educational
Have you tried Maple logs yet? Swamp / Silver maple grows like crazy where I live. I've considered it, but, not sure if it would work since swamp/silver maple is a bit softer than say... Sugar/red maple
Nice instructional video as usual. I reckon it's worth it if you like eating fungus which my wife and I do not. I know different strokes for different folks. Don't take me as being critical because I know everyone has their own taste. God bless everyone.
I am from Italy and there EVERYBODY loves mushrooms because we go pick them in the woods and cook amazing recipes with it. When I came to the U.S. I tried to buy mushrooms and they tasted and smelled like nothing and had texture of cardboard. So I gave up for awhile. Then I started foraging for morels and chanterelles and OMG they were so good that I decided to grow mushrooms. Cannot live without. America has the worst food in the world (second only to England) do not blame a type of food because your parents didn’t show you the real thing. When i came here I would offer olives to people and they would all say: I don’t like olives. At which i would say: restaurants and stores only buy the cheapest crap they can because they know your knowledge of food is close to zero (Been in importing and distribution ..... they all think Americans can eat garbage and be happy so they serve junk .... and people even compliment them when done eating) ...... SO learn one lesson: the food you don’t like ..... may be your favorite if you eat the authentic high quality version. The type Europeans eat. ..... pasta and bread are amazing if you get it from places that know what they are doing (none in the U.S. because the quality of the main ingredient is missing) but if you buy the commercial types ....... all of a sudden you feel bloated or sick and your doctor tells you you are gluten intollerant ..... same for cheese, you are lactose intolerant ..... guess what? Doctor is an idiot. You are only garbage intolerant
My wife needs me to run to the store and buy some canned mushrooms. I must be spoiled. Call me Mr. Suburbanite. Progress? That was interesting and informative, as usual.
So I’m watching this with my wife and as soon as his said six inch’s around and about four feet long. She laugh and said HE WISHES.. that’s why I love her.
You need to try the Milwaukee M18 chain saw. It is extremity impressive. We have replaced all of our Stihl chainsaws with the Millwaukees. A battery charge lasts as long if not longer than a tank of gas. Give it a look at.
my mom always told me that anyone that pulls up in a Kubota and pulls out a Stihl chainsaw you could probably take his word for whatever he's telling you because he's probably doing things right
latest studies show that the trees that he's talking about cutting down cuz they're not doing so good are important because underground tree share nutrients with each other. That's why it's bad because a tree that's not doing so good the forest just using its nutrients. when you cut that tree down and get rid of it then you cutoff nutrients to some of the other trees. that tree being not so attractive to log or even look at it may be beneficial to the trees around it to grow better and that is the latest studies and this is done through mycelium actually
I wholeheartedly disagree with you my friend...understanding the microbial and fungal world in the forest is my forte' .....I'm quite aware of the symbiotic relationships of plants in the forest...and the web of mycelium that feeds them in the soil ecosystem...however taking out the dead and diseased trees still leaves the underground root systems and those systems adapt over time. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying....proper forest management doesn't mean "leave it alone"....I can show you examples all over the property here where I've removed dead, dying or diseased trees and the trees around it began to thrive. It's just like treating a communicable disease in a population of people....overcrowded populations spread disease quicker.....less dense populations thrive and are more healthy. We thin our forest so that other trees thrive....as soon as we cut a diseased tree....the roots begin to rot and feed the fungal networks that connect all living things in the forest my friend. Mycelium doesn't thrive on living things..it thrives on dead, rotting and decaying matter my brotha. Trust me....I've studied soil for the past 20 years
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer so what the study shows is that a tree that looks like shit is that could actually be important its nutrients are being shared by other trees when you cut that tree down you weaken them.
Yep about 2.5 years ago....early on in the channel. Farming and homesteading is frequently a repetitive process where we learn from each experience my brotha
Why are you waiting for a year and a half before soaking the logs?
The logs have to rot...you don't have to soak them nature will do it's thing...but if you want predictability then soak them overnight
It's spore farming. It would be fun to try this here where I live
Love your channel Josh. I have a cost saving tip for you regarding your mushrooms. What I do is buy the spawn one and only one time for $20. Then I go to Lowe’s and buy some red oak plugs for a few dollars more. I boil the plugs to kill any bacteria and to get the wood moist. Then I put the plugs in the bag with the spawn. Bingo more inoculated plugs. I keep the spawn in my refrigerator in a double freezer bag. I’ve had the same spawn now for 5-6 years and have inoculated 100s of logs. All those delicious mushrooms for just 20 bucks and a little sweat. I call that a deal. That’s how we do it down here in the Ozarks.
Cool, I love your idea!
That's awesome
Where in the Ozarks? Sharp Co. here.
How long do you put the moist plugs and spawn together?
Thank you for sharing this neat way to have mushrooms.
We've got tons of Black Jack trees on our farm here that's going to be cut for future firewood, glad I have seen this informative video, that offers us another option, as to using it So glad you gave us a heads-up as to what time of year to start this project, thanks so much from a fellow Sandhill Carolinian.
A fella I know, built a tin coverd grow shed for his mushrooms, equipped with a water misting system. Tin covered on 3 sides and a roof, with a tarp cover on the 4th side as the entrance. Nice job, Josh!!
Hi..... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Mushroom growing lessons......thanks Josh....
300 K right around the corner congratulations brother
Hey Josh , thanks 😊
I just cut a log the size of my arm.... it broke in half when I set it down.... small arms haha. Good video.
You just showed me something I didn't know before and I have to try doing that and see how it turns out. I thank you for showing us how it is done and maybe I can make my own logs and get some mushrooms growing at my place.
loved it,, @ 9:00, you were mushrooming the mushrooms so they won't fall out,,, :)
I took a class on this at a local farm nonprofit and they recommended cutting the trees in January and inoculate in spring.
You can do the cutting October to April, age the wood 3-8 weeks after cutting and water daily, cover them with burlap.
Stihl is where its at!
Can't wait to try this.
Hey Josh thank you so much for the video never knew you can grow shiitake mushrooms from a tree but now I know from watching your video very interesting I just learned something new today like they say you never stop learning you learn something new everyday but not really every day every once in awhile
Thanks for the video homeboy
I'm gonna do this for sure .
Thanks.
I definitely want to get into mushroom at home in the garden. Thanks
Just had some shitake mushrooms for lunch today grown right here!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer awesome
Good info Josh, learn something every day, thanks!
Great learning post
That is really neat. I look forward to see how they make out in the future. Thanks
Thank you. You give us so much useful and important info.
Been a while since you gave us an update on your mushroom logs.
they are just about spent ....I have plugs to make more ....but been so busy with "farm" stuff
Yum my favorite and sun-dried concentrates the flavor of them. Dried then soaked has better flavor
Thanks Josh, i never knew this. We love mushrooms at the Barr House. I'm gonna give her a try. That was awesome buddy.
I really enjoy watching your videos, informative and entertaining.
My father in law does a bunch of logs, I bought him an angle grinder for the drill bit. Makes it pretty nice drilling holes if you are doing a bunch. Love shiitakes... Good work man!
Now that is awsome I love mushrooms especially wild mushrooms so I will be doing this so I will be wanting to grab a kit or 2 ..so thank you for sharing bud and godbless
this are not wild this are coltivated..wild means wild spontaneous..you dummy
Alberto....you might want to learn how to spell CULTIVATED before you go calling someone else a dummy. Please be respectful on this channel, this is a place for learning and growing together. You just learned how to spell CULTIVATED .....see how great this can be! Wooooooo!!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer thank you for saying somthing to peaple whom say things out of the way ..I try not to say anything to peaple like that ..I find it useless to respond to peaple like that so thank you much and godbless
Brian Meattey there's a neat channel called "Learn Your Land" that goes in great depth about finding, harvesting, and preparing wild mushrooms. Oh yeah SAFETY also. Best not forget about that because some of these mushrooms are poisonous. Really enjoyed this video also and I'm going to go to the link and get me some kits also. Will be a fun and delicious project. Thanks Stoney Ridge! 😁👍
When farming mushrooms like this you want to inoculate and seal the logs ASAP as the longer you leave the logs exposed the higher chance of a wild fungi infecting them. Depending on the trees you have you can grow different types of mushrooms so don't fear if you lack maple and oak. If you are growing lots of logs a section of split rail fence between 2 trees or 2 posts makes a good spot to lean the logs on for fast inspections.
For fungi the term is fruiting when the mushrooms start sprouting
Have you thought about growing ginseng in the woods also? It is a plant and forget about it till you want to harvest in 10-20 years for the most part other then watching for stealing.
Good video
Mate. Thank you so much for your vids. My daughter and I watch a new one every night in our bed time routine. If you feel like it shout out to Evelyn in a vid. otherwise keep up the awesome work mate .
Mick from Australia
Nice I will look into this never heard of these mushrooms before thanks stoney and I your Thanksgiving was awesome for you and your family friend
What are the steps for cutting the trees for logs? Can I use a freshly fallen tree?
you want the sap to be in the log, so you don't want a log that's a dead fall..if it's a blown down tree that's fine. Just cut them to about 4-5ft in length...about as big as your leg or a medium size mixing bowl
Ok thanks
hey can you do a tool reveiw of the stihl or Pferd 2 in 1 saw chain sharpener i love mine need to show the people
Mr. Mushroom , who knew 😀👍🏾 Thank You. Love your videos . Geo. 😀👍🏾🚜🚜🚜🚜
Very interesting.
Another great source of mushrooms and such is Fungi perfecti out of Olympia WA ....good people!!
Great job enjoyed that!!!!!!
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Well done video, Thanks, here is my like.👍
Hello , it look very interesting to grow mushrooms. What kind wax do you you?
nice work! I stagger my rows so that the plugs on each row are also four to six inches apart. I also only use trees that have been downed recently and naturally, but I'm on enough land to do that. Also, make sure the plugs don't mold or dry which happened to me because of delays. thanks
I'm glad I watched the video to get the right pronunciation of that word Shitake. I was reading it entirely differently. Have you tried the 18volt Fuel Milwaukee chainsaw?
I have not tried it
this is great
I live in an apartment. Do you think it's possible to grow them inside somehow? I can create some kind of rig to spray them with water if needed.
Let me share this with ya: amzn.to/3rRCnOe (stoney ridge farmer amazon page link for shiitake grow log indoor)
That's amazing.
You might also like trying to grow some Chicken of the Woods. I've never cultivated them, but I've gathered and eaten them. They are extremely good. Shiitakes are extremely good too though. Enjoyed the video.
Thanks for the great video. I am definitely going to try this. Paraffin or beeswax? Does it matter?
doesn't matter really
@StoneyRidgeFarmer Thanks for the reply! I just ordered 500 plugs and they come with wax. I have been clearing and have tons of oak logs.
What other mushrooms do you recommend to grow on logs besides shiitake
Could you use untreated hsrdwood lumber?
Now my wife wants me to do this.
Amazing video! Can I grow some species of mushrooms using chestnut tree logs? Thank you.
You can use any hardwood you like
Well that may work if you live at low elevation in a damp environment which I do not in on the Colorado plateau
Then you'll just have to move.
@@johnshoureas1629 nope this is home I'm a pueblo Indian
@@Shahska1 Well then, maybe Josh can mail some mushrooms to you.
@@johnshoureas1629 hummm
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THANKS FOR SHARING THE PROCESS🍄🍄🍄, THAT WAS AWESOME!!
WE'RE NEW TO YOUR CHANNEL and live in CAIRO GEORGIA 😍
Welcome to the channel!
So after you plug the logs you have to wait 1.5yrs then soak the logs and then you have mushrooms in a day or two? Just making sure I hear that correctly
Pretty much.....soaking will accelerate the process but you basically have to wait for the logs to rot for a season
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer thanks much for the videos! If you ever need a hand processing a pig again, let me know as I would like to learn and only about 3hrs from the MTs in central NC. Thanks again!
Hello there Josh and wifey.does the deer eat them ?
Yep...if you don't keep an eye on them when they start to bloom out...that's why I say put them in a place that you visit frequently for sure....or you'll find half your crop eaten lol
Excellent question. Well heck. My dear and turkeys come up to the door and look in at us. Reckon I'll have to fence in an area for my project. Great question and thanks for the answer. Good info.👍
What type of wax? Just any unscented?
Can you do this in tree stumps? And just bring a candle out to the woods with you near by the house?
Also, what if you have a pile of already rotting logs? Can you use them in rotting logs and have them grow then?
3 to 8 weeks after tree is cut. Too old or too young no good
@@maragrace820 ok thanks
Would water oak or birch work?
Most any hardwood species....birch would rot too quick in my opinion
Will any growth range work?
Can it be any tree log?
We get a lot of snow in the winter here in the mountains of Utah. Exactly when do I put the plugs in?
a few weeks before the first frost...you could probably use large scrub oak branches or maybe cottonwood...lived in Ogden area for almost 10 years myself....not much hardwood around those parts
What kind of wax? Can I use candle wax?
🚜-Woooooo!!!
would using old wood on a pile thats been getting weather work? Rather than waiting a year?
They would not work in central Mo. Will they?
Just dab it on, dab dab dab bloop bloop bloop, just a little dab!!!! WooOOOOoooo
If you could only do that with Moral Mushrooms, then you would be making it a living. Thanks for showing this I never knew this and going to have to try this.
Mark Eckelkamp maybe not like this but I'm sure they can be grown domestically. I'm going to find out how and do it. This is all fantastic exciting info.
They grow under pine trees so recreate a bed just like it and put spores in it
Josh, having shown the how to for growing shiitake mushroom do you feel the harvest and all the work out weighs the cost vs. Buying at a market?
Plant them once....have them for 10 years v/s going to the store and buying them. I prefer growing my own food...it just tastes better to me, plus it's fun and educational
Heck yeah! 👍
Have you tried Maple logs yet?
Swamp / Silver maple grows like crazy where I live.
I've considered it, but, not sure if it would work since swamp/silver maple is a bit softer than say... Sugar/red maple
Will dead limbs work
you should use green limbs...the decay of the sugars and starches in the log is what grows the mushrooms
Was hear for 'shroom time! Your old logs and plugs are still producing well?
Yeppers....got about a 5 gallon bucket off the first batch this past season
Nice instructional video as usual. I reckon it's worth it if you like eating fungus which my wife and I do not. I know different strokes for different folks. Don't take me as being critical because I know everyone has their own taste. God bless everyone.
You're missing quite a treat....shiitake mushrooms taste like steak! Yummy!
I am from Italy and there EVERYBODY loves mushrooms because we go pick them in the woods and cook amazing recipes with it. When I came to the U.S. I tried to buy mushrooms and they tasted and smelled like nothing and had texture of cardboard. So I gave up for awhile. Then I started foraging for morels and chanterelles and OMG they were so good that I decided to grow mushrooms. Cannot live without. America has the worst food in the world (second only to England) do not blame a type of food because your parents didn’t show you the real thing.
When i came here I would offer olives to people and they would all say: I don’t like olives. At which i would say: restaurants and stores only buy the cheapest crap they can because they know your knowledge of food is close to zero (Been in importing and distribution ..... they all think Americans can eat garbage and be happy so they serve junk .... and people even compliment them when done eating) ...... SO learn one lesson: the food you don’t like ..... may be your favorite if you eat the authentic high quality version. The type Europeans eat. ..... pasta and bread are amazing if you get it from places that know what they are doing (none in the U.S. because the quality of the main ingredient is missing) but if you buy the commercial types ....... all of a sudden you feel bloated or sick and your doctor tells you you are gluten intollerant ..... same for cheese, you are lactose intolerant ..... guess what? Doctor is an idiot. You are only garbage intolerant
Mara Grace my husband and I have experienced what you're saying, so very true!
I need a tree identification class....lol
Big thumbs up! Was that paraffin wax?
yessir...I prefer the red wax but made due with what I had
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer you can use up old candle stubs too.
I never eat anything with Shiit in it. Just kidding I love mushrooms and your videos 😜
U have to go mist it with a mister in the morning 🌄
Hot the plugs roll they "mushroom out". Thsts a good one pun intended
Hi Josh, is that a green tree or a dead tree? (I'm assuming it died, it sounds dry) thank you brother.
green live wood...must be cut less than 2 weeks
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer log farmers say it has to be cut at least 3 weeks before you put spores in.
@@maragrace820 depending on time of year, up to a few months for a 9-10" diameter Oak. Just wax the end cuts.
My wife needs me to run to the store and buy some canned mushrooms. I must be spoiled. Call me Mr. Suburbanite. Progress? That was interesting and informative, as usual.
lol...you won't find anything this delicious in the store...try it out...takes time...patience and is a fun little project for sure
You need to change wife
So I’m watching this with my wife and as soon as his said six inch’s around and about four feet long. She laugh and said HE WISHES.. that’s why I love her.
You need to try the Milwaukee M18 chain saw. It is extremity impressive. We have replaced all of our Stihl chainsaws with the Millwaukees. A battery charge lasts as long if not longer than a tank of gas. Give it a look at.
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my mom always told me that anyone that pulls up in a Kubota and pulls out a Stihl chainsaw you could probably take his word for whatever he's telling you because he's probably doing things right
lol......that's funny....or he's broke and needs to make his payments bhahahha
I need to try this one year. You drill them and leave them alone.
Woooo
A mushroom bloom is called a flush. Just thought I'd share woooo
cool thanks Eric
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latest studies show that the trees that he's talking about cutting down cuz they're not doing so good are important because underground tree share nutrients with each other. That's why it's bad because a tree that's not doing so good the forest just using its nutrients. when you cut that tree down and get rid of it then you cutoff nutrients to some of the other trees. that tree being not so attractive to log or even look at it may be beneficial to the trees around it to grow better and that is the latest studies and this is done through mycelium actually
I wholeheartedly disagree with you my friend...understanding the microbial and fungal world in the forest is my forte' .....I'm quite aware of the symbiotic relationships of plants in the forest...and the web of mycelium that feeds them in the soil ecosystem...however taking out the dead and diseased trees still leaves the underground root systems and those systems adapt over time. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying....proper forest management doesn't mean "leave it alone"....I can show you examples all over the property here where I've removed dead, dying or diseased trees and the trees around it began to thrive. It's just like treating a communicable disease in a population of people....overcrowded populations spread disease quicker.....less dense populations thrive and are more healthy. We thin our forest so that other trees thrive....as soon as we cut a diseased tree....the roots begin to rot and feed the fungal networks that connect all living things in the forest my friend. Mycelium doesn't thrive on living things..it thrives on dead, rotting and decaying matter my brotha. Trust me....I've studied soil for the past 20 years
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer so what the study shows is that a tree that looks like shit is that could actually be important its nutrients are being shared by other trees when you cut that tree down you weaken them.
With all of the talk on inoculation i was starting to wonder if gram stains were coming up next.
Is this just for personal use or for profit?
Do 10 logs for the family and friends....do 100 logs and sell them..up to you for a seasonal treat
First one❤️
I swear i seen a video about the same before
Yep about 2.5 years ago....early on in the channel. Farming and homesteading is frequently a repetitive process where we learn from each experience my brotha
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer oh ok. def wont complaining. Love the content.
How come ever thumbnail has a dumb smile
Remember when folks had manners?
Remember when men didn’t act like a child
Too much fluff, not enough mushroom content.
Too much complaining...not enough manners now that's "nuff'said"