Let's make this abundantly clear, Tenma is the MOST moral man in the series. He never killed ANYBODY, and the fact that he thought he killed Roberto literally tore him apart.
@@Duncan-HeatherI'm pretty sure she shot someone in that warehouse scene where she got ambushed, or kidnapped. I forget what happened, but that's the scene where the guy who killed her adopted parents was trying to protect her. I'm pretty sure she killed him, but maybe I'm mistaken
Yeah, even if tenma is "broken" by all situations that Johan made, he still did good all around the world he went, thats why s lot of people wanted to defend him
@@saltyvgn5103we all have an alter ego, and the brain is divided in two parts, both contributing and controlling different functions and actions, reactions, and behaviors.
@Unknown-pi8ph that's different from a separate entity. While we do have 2 parts in our brain and they control almost opposing factors internally we dont manually differentiate them. When you're thinking pragmatically you're still able to be overcome by emotion, staying calm and objective requires discipline, if our brain parts were truly independent there would be no need for containment. While there is a lot of truth to the idea of different personas or projections of our self, those different aspects of our identity arent mutually exclusive, by this I mean that while we may act a certain away around certain people this doesn't mean we become separate from the emotions inside of us. The monster inside Johan more than a different personality is a personification of his childhood connection being cutoff from his memory, note that after reading the nameless monster Johan stops using the taunting "monster is growing inside me" paragraph, it is because he now understands the root of his disconnect and from there changes his plans, going from extermination to suicide. This is just my interpretation though and if you feel I misjudged Johans actions feel free to point it out. I just feel his monstrosity was an unidentified fear he couldn't tie to his past until he was presented to it by the book.
@@saltyvgn5103Johan would point his head when someone held him at gun point, he would write on tank that he wouldn't stop killing people begging for death in the writing reality is he couldn't stop himself from killing others
@gangstereditz6006 the head pointing gesture was merely an extension of the rooftop game Johan told the kids to play, its a game of fate, he only does it when he is absolutely sure he will die, in the library he stops pointing the moment he sees nina enter the room because despite tenma still pointing his gun at him he knows tenma would never kill in front of nina. Another example of this is in the library, when tenma is aiming for his head with the sniper, he doesnt point at his head even though he knows where the weapon is, he doesn't worry because he instructed roberto to stop tenma. If all of these were signs of him wanting to die, then he wouldn't be selective of when he points to his head. In regards to the tank, Dr Gillen straight up says psychos are charismatic and like to mock their pursuers, the text on the tank is simply johan wanting to mock tenma, knowing his heart will get the better of him, knowing tenma would believe him if he said he was in pain. Johan only seeks death in a suicidal manner after reading the nameless monster and tracking franz bonaparta.
I like the fact that instead of doing the thing were the detective who's chasing the good guy is a totally corrupted cop who just wants to put the good guy in jail. Here instead of doing that, they made a totally logical guy who's just doing his job and trying to get the most logical answer to the case
Once upon a time, in a land far away, there lived a nameless monster. The monster was dying to have a name. So the monster made up his mind, and set out on a journey to look for one. But the world was such a very large place. The monster split in two, and went on separate journeys. One went east. The other headed west. The one who went east came upon a village. There was a blacksmith who lived at the village's entrance. "Mr. Blacksmith, please give me your name!" said the monster. "I can't give you my name!" replied the blacksmith. 'If you give me your name, I'll go inside you and make you strong," said the monster. "Really?" said the blacksmith, "If you make me stronger, I'll give you my name." The monster went into the blacksmith. And so, the monster became Otto the blacksmith. Otto was the strongest man in town. But then one day he said, "Look at me! Look at me! The monster inside of me is getting bigger!" Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp. The hungry monster ate up Otto from the inside out. Once again, he was a monster without a name. Next, he went into Hans the shoemaker. However... Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp. Once again, he went back to being a monster without a name. Then, he became Thomas the hunter. But soon... Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp. Back he went to being a monster without a name. The monster next went to a castle to look for a nice name. He came upon a very sick boy who lived in that castle. "If you give me your name, I'll make you strong," said the monster. The boy replied, "If you can make me healthy and strong, I will give you my name!" So the monster jumped right into the boy. And the boy became full of vigor. The king was overjoyed. He announced, "The prince is healthy! The prince is strong!" The monster became quite fond of the boy's name. He was also quite pleased with his royal life in the castle. So he controlled himself no matter how ravenous his appetite became. Day after day, despite his growing hunger, the monster stayed put inside the boy. But finally, the hunger just became too great... "Look at me! Look at me!" said the boy, "The monster inside of me has gotten this big!" The boy devoured the king and all his servants. Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp. The castle was lonely now with everyone gone, so the boy left on a journey. He walked and walked for days. And then one day, the boy came upon the monster who had gone west. "I have a name!" said the boy, "And it's such a wonderful one at that!" But the monster who went west replied, "Who needs a name? I'm perfectly happy without one. After all, that's what we are - nameless monsters." The boy ate up the monster who went west. At last he had found a name, but there was no longer anyone to call him by it. Such a shame, because Johan was such a wonderful name.
In the end when Roberto taunts him, he shows his regret and rage for neglecting his family, but doesn't type it in his brain. He knows he isn't perfect but he knows he's good at finding the truth.
@@louisvau4132 He does, but only his mother and Tenma know, and it is very possible that even his mother has forgotten him, so only Tenma knows his name, a name that has not been revealed.
Even Eva Heinemen is evil the way she treats kenzo is proof of that , she gets humbled later in life when she goes through divorce after divorce and becomes a alcoholic.
but the same story brings minor excuses that in themselves do not take away anything from what it really is, the story wants to delve deeper into the question "can the concept of evil theoretically exist?" and although the story tries to make you notice that johan It is not pure evil, the excuses that are taken into account are automatically removed by Johan himself.
@@KamleshPatel-md5kvyeah, but he is not just evil and that. He was evil yes, but because of the goverment experiments, Kinderheim 511, and the fact that also he was near death line. Anne Liebhart went to a normal orphanage and his mind just blocked all the bad memories.
Saying johan is pure evil is the a proof of low iq Johan existence is actually better than anyone of you if he was real.. Also...johan is also a better person than your whole bloodline..you just cant understand
That's the entire point of the anime. Showcasing how you completely break a human psychologically until there are no emotions or connections left and how they reach a point of true nihilism. And Johan IS that experiment. Therefore, Johan = broken.
@@liron5213 the "point" of the show does not in any way negate the *Fact* that Johan is an evil person. I don't understand the mental gymnastics you people are doing to think otherwise. Seek help.
It all started for Johan the moment his and Anna’s mother actually considered choosing and debating which one to keep instead of fiercely defending them like any true mother would.
Eva : 70% broken 30% good Tenma: too good for "good" Lunge: none of them🗿 just a pj level logical detective that doesnt put emotions in his works Anna : broken Grimmer: broken Richard: 80% broken 20% good Johan: definiton of "evil" is too low for him
Lunge is my boi and he’s easily my favourite character in the whole series, like a human computer. I can relate to him a fair amount in an analytical sense
All pure evil individuals are "broken" in one way or another, but Johan has pretty much 0 redeeming characteristics and is about as close to pure evil as possible.
Tenma - 50% Good, 50% Broken Anna - 70% Broken, 30% Good Lunge - Neutral Johan - 65% Broken, 35% Pure evil Grimmer - 70% Broken, 30% Good Martin - 40% Broken, 60% Good Bonaparta - Broken Roberto - 50% Broken, 50% Influenced Richard Braun - 100% Broken Reichwenn - Good Dieter - 99% Good, 1% Broken Eva - 50% Broken, 30% Pure Evil, 20% Good (Eva is truly a complex character) Karl - Good
@@strangeman876 well I don't see why she would deserve more or less, this woman has done some pretty horrible things (abandoning Tenma, denouncing him even though she knows he is innocent...)
You let his backstory distract you from the fact that Johan manipulated kids to kill each other because he wanted to find out how they tear each other to pieces. Johan doesnt have emotions, he isnt broken, you cannot break humanity that was never there to begin with. He is a true psychopath.. he LACKS the fundamental capacity for human emotion. Likely not helped by the fact that he was fucking shot in the head and lived. He killed the foster parents in germany and told his own sister to shoot him, fully aware that if he stuck around, his sister would never know peace.. She failed him in that, and thousands paid the price for it.. for even while his memories were shattered, repressed and in the dark, his shadow still had sway over him subconsciously.. the old him.
A monster is never born... It's created... The only difference between a hero and a villain is that the villain chooses revenge from those people who didn't even do anything to him, but the hero thinks for the world.
@@Duck00701 wrong, sorry but psychopathy is a congenital issue and a physiological inability to feel empathy for others, not a trauma response to conditioning
@@Duck00701 further more Johan isn't a villain.. Roberto is a villain, Ronaparta Is a villain, the short guy that wanted Johan to be the next Hitler is a villain, the staff of kinderheim were villains, Johan isn't.. he is just the example that there exists monsters which you shouldn't attempt to control.. he is no different from a xenomorp from alien, every villain in those movies wants to control and use them, but every time they slaughter the villain by showing them they won't be controlled. Johan was BORN this way, not made this way.
@@159tonywasn't johan part of a experiment since his birth which caused the birth of being that can never be controlled and some may say it was the devil
The narrative of "Monster" conveys the notion that no individual is purely evil, even though we may find ourselves in disagreement with every single action or thought portrayed. The scenes in which Johan cried - on the night he asked Anna to shoot him at the library for Carl and upon gazing at the portraits of him and his sister at Bonaparte's house - reveal the vestiges of humanity that remain within him, even after the atrocities committed by 511 Kinderheim.
lunge is broken, abandoned his family and didnt blink twice, flaked on his daughter and his brand new grandchild and adamant on proving a innocent man guilty. He a whole goon😂
Wolfgang Grimmer, the magnificent Steiner❤. Man he's the 2nd best MC after Dr. Tenma. I literally bawled my eyes out when he died. Hes a goated character 🔥
As someone currently reafing the manga, my brain refuses to believe that Eva and Anna have blonde hair, even though the characters in the manga keep saying that anna is blonde
The narrative of "Monster" conveys the notion that no individual is purely Evil, even though we may find ourselves in disagreement with every single action or thought they portray. Johan, a character burdened by tragedy, has the capacity for concern for others, for he, despite his monstrous nature, is fundamentally human. A purely malevolent entity would not have shown remorse over anything , nor would it have shed tears upon the realization of his abandonment by his mother. He cares about others like any other human, which is his way of showing it isn't something we are mundanely familiar with, as we cannot comprehend the thoughts of someone who has lived through 511 Kinderheim.
Putting Eva in broken category is what i don't agree with, later at the series yeah it does make sense but her introduction and her character was crazy to be considered just broken. And i also don't agree that Johan is totally broken.
Johan: 20% pure evil 80% broken Tenma: 20% broken 80% good Eva: 70% percent broken 30% good Lunge: 100% good Anna: 70% good 30% broken Grimmer: 90% broken 10% good
Eva broken my ass, she left the guy who liked him only because he didn't save a certain person Them she realizes he was the only one who truly loved her She tries to get on a relationship with him again he rejects it so eva then tries to get tenma in prison and this goes on for like the whole series until episode 74
A PERSON WHEN BORN IN ALWAYS A GOOD PERSON BUT THE WORLD BROKE THAT PERSON AND SOMETIME IT CAN MAKE THAT PERSON LIKE EVA (TOTALLY BROKEN) OR PURE EVEIL LIKE JOHAN
especially Johan, who was born evil, and he doesn't even try to change, or try to demonstrate something that truly shows that in his darkness, he has even something good.
I'. M. Sad, because I know this is a good anime because it's old with old animating style because all the new styles I like they look pretty but the old styles holy s***, the story is f****** fantastic. Just look at kogios and boom f****** fantastic.
no hes not pure evil he used to be good when he was a kid he lost all of his memories he doesnt remember anything and Johan gave him a purpose in life and now he works for johan so its means that hes Influenced/Broken
Lunge is good, but he can't process that some od his theories may be wrong, when he met Grimmer and heard about Johan, from Wolgang and Franz Bonaparta he immediately started helping stop Johan
@@DJISBESTLunge never really met with Johan until they put him side by side in the chopper. For someone, he is looking at Tenma, who gained a lot after the hospital deaths, skeptical. Until he starts to change his view after the suicide of the kid who Johan thought was Karl. Then he starts to understand that there is somebody named Johan. He just don’t understand how could he be so clean, imaginary. The failed perfect suicide.
@@naufalzamri7266 literally no Johan came on news , everyone even knew his name , he just never investigated more The only thing he did in the entire series was make tenmas work 10times harder with his arrogance Also wtf you mean by that , he basically was 100% sure that tenma did it just cuz he profited from those people deaths... He didn't even thought of other possibilities Stop trying to defend stupidity
Song name: Mr kitty - After dark (slowed)
Tenma is too good for good
yaa Johan also accept that 💀
@@AjayDaware09
Johan cute peaceful
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Yup
It is also his flaw SPOILER which is why he saves Johan.
Eva: Broken
Tenma: 20% broken, 80% good
Lunge: on vacation
Lunge: pls give a coffee ✅
LMFAO
Prague or ..,,💀💀
😭
I just dont like the plot of monster but johan is good
Let's make this abundantly clear, Tenma is the MOST moral man in the series. He never killed ANYBODY, and the fact that he thought he killed Roberto literally tore him apart.
Anna didn't kill anyone it seems to me
Fr
FR HES THE MOST GOOD CHARACTER IVE SEEN
So what f his goodness he let Johan out multiple times, fking shit
@@Duncan-HeatherI'm pretty sure she shot someone in that warehouse scene where she got ambushed, or kidnapped. I forget what happened, but that's the scene where the guy who killed her adopted parents was trying to protect her. I'm pretty sure she killed him, but maybe I'm mistaken
Tenma is literally pure good
Facts man could ride the flying nimbus
No he let his unbreakable resolve create evil i believe the point is there is good and evil
@@dogcatjmI think about Tenma as the total opposite of Johan. He is the white in the ying yang, being Johan evil and Tenma good.
This is why he's a MC
Yeah, even if tenma is "broken" by all situations that Johan made, he still did good all around the world he went, thats why s lot of people wanted to defend him
Johan: broken
Monster inside Johan: Pure evil
Im pretty sure it isnt a separate entity.
@@saltyvgn5103we all have an alter ego, and the brain is divided in two parts, both contributing and controlling different functions and actions, reactions, and behaviors.
@Unknown-pi8ph that's different from a separate entity. While we do have 2 parts in our brain and they control almost opposing factors internally we dont manually differentiate them. When you're thinking pragmatically you're still able to be overcome by emotion, staying calm and objective requires discipline, if our brain parts were truly independent there would be no need for containment. While there is a lot of truth to the idea of different personas or projections of our self, those different aspects of our identity arent mutually exclusive, by this I mean that while we may act a certain away around certain people this doesn't mean we become separate from the emotions inside of us. The monster inside Johan more than a different personality is a personification of his childhood connection being cutoff from his memory, note that after reading the nameless monster Johan stops using the taunting "monster is growing inside me" paragraph, it is because he now understands the root of his disconnect and from there changes his plans, going from extermination to suicide. This is just my interpretation though and if you feel I misjudged Johans actions feel free to point it out. I just feel his monstrosity was an unidentified fear he couldn't tie to his past until he was presented to it by the book.
@@saltyvgn5103Johan would point his head when someone held him at gun point, he would write on tank that he wouldn't stop killing people begging for death in the writing reality is he couldn't stop himself from killing others
@gangstereditz6006 the head pointing gesture was merely an extension of the rooftop game Johan told the kids to play, its a game of fate, he only does it when he is absolutely sure he will die, in the library he stops pointing the moment he sees nina enter the room because despite tenma still pointing his gun at him he knows tenma would never kill in front of nina. Another example of this is in the library, when tenma is aiming for his head with the sniper, he doesnt point at his head even though he knows where the weapon is, he doesn't worry because he instructed roberto to stop tenma. If all of these were signs of him wanting to die, then he wouldn't be selective of when he points to his head. In regards to the tank, Dr Gillen straight up says psychos are charismatic and like to mock their pursuers, the text on the tank is simply johan wanting to mock tenma, knowing his heart will get the better of him, knowing tenma would believe him if he said he was in pain. Johan only seeks death in a suicidal manner after reading the nameless monster and tracking franz bonaparta.
Lets be honest. Grimmer is the 2nd best charecter of the entire anime
1st
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Lunge = Temna = Grimmer = Anna 🐐
Nah, Grimmer is the BEST character in the story
You can be pure evil & broken as well, Johan is both, a broken person can literally become pure evil.
@@jesseangreen9613 he is omg whatever he became today is just because of his past
@@jesseangreen9613 oh right
@@jesseangreen9613 one could argue happened to his sister & his mothers choice broke him but at the same time he’s pure evil too.
He was pure evil from the start
@@favio194 Yeah but he was also broken during his upbringing
Lunge is so underated in my opinion
ikrrrrrrr
Ye
yep, most ppl dislike him because how annoying he was at the beginning but hes a really solid character
Nah he's irrelevant
@@cherrypoptart2001 I really liked him when he showed up first in the anime.
He kinda look shady but I just feel that there's much more than that.
Martin - Broken
Franz - Pure evil
Roberto - Influenced
franz regrets bro
@@dariusstan3721 But he regret after doing so big massacre
Klaus*-Pure Evil to Broken and Adolf*-Broken to Pure Evil
@@harishhimanshu8732a massacre that he comitted for the safety of anna and johan
@@priyangshuroy667 Yes
I'm glad tenma was man. If he is female, I'm going to fall in love immediately
Nawww
You are so lucky you're not gay😞
Well we have a female Tenma; it's Anna
@@someguyontheinternet2729
Johan's looks
Tenmas kindness
THAT'S THE PERFECT GIRL-
Tenma is one of the greatest characters of all time ppl underrate him he is pure good
Grimmer - totally broken totally good
Exactly
Lunge here is the true hero
ikrrrrrrr
Dr tenma the realest
He is the real psycho. Good psycho. But good for us
@@drawforge3920tenma and aana are stupid asses
I like the fact that instead of doing the thing were the detective who's chasing the good guy is a totally corrupted cop who just wants to put the good guy in jail. Here instead of doing that, they made a totally logical guy who's just doing his job and trying to get the most logical answer to the case
Once upon a time, in a land far away, there lived a nameless monster.
The monster was dying to have a name.
So the monster made up his mind, and set out on a journey to look for one.
But the world was such a very large place.
The monster split in two, and went on separate journeys.
One went east.
The other headed west.
The one who went east came upon a village.
There was a blacksmith who lived at the village's entrance.
"Mr. Blacksmith, please give me your name!" said the monster.
"I can't give you my name!" replied the blacksmith.
'If you give me your name, I'll go inside you and make you strong," said the monster.
"Really?" said the blacksmith, "If you make me stronger, I'll give you my name."
The monster went into the blacksmith.
And so, the monster became Otto the blacksmith.
Otto was the strongest man in town.
But then one day he said, "Look at me! Look at me! The monster inside of me is getting bigger!"
Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp.
The hungry monster ate up Otto from the inside out.
Once again, he was a monster without a name.
Next, he went into Hans the shoemaker.
However...
Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp.
Once again, he went back to being a monster without a name.
Then, he became Thomas the hunter.
But soon...
Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp.
Back he went to being a monster without a name.
The monster next went to a castle to look for a nice name.
He came upon a very sick boy who lived in that castle.
"If you give me your name, I'll make you strong," said the monster.
The boy replied, "If you can make me healthy and strong, I will give you my name!"
So the monster jumped right into the boy.
And the boy became full of vigor.
The king was overjoyed.
He announced, "The prince is healthy! The prince is strong!"
The monster became quite fond of the boy's name.
He was also quite pleased with his royal life in the castle.
So he controlled himself no matter how ravenous his appetite became.
Day after day, despite his growing hunger, the monster stayed put inside the boy.
But finally, the hunger just became too great...
"Look at me! Look at me!" said the boy, "The monster inside of me has gotten this big!"
The boy devoured the king and all his servants.
Munch munch, chomp chomp, gobble gobble, gulp.
The castle was lonely now with everyone gone, so the boy left on a journey.
He walked and walked for days.
And then one day, the boy came upon the monster who had gone west.
"I have a name!" said the boy, "And it's such a wonderful one at that!"
But the monster who went west replied, "Who needs a name? I'm perfectly happy without one. After all, that's what we are - nameless monsters."
The boy ate up the monster who went west.
At last he had found a name, but there was no longer anyone to call him by it.
Such a shame, because Johan was such a wonderful name.
i read this while hearing nina's voice reciting it
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Lunge shouldn't be fully good since he sacrificed all his relationships including his family over his obsession
In the end when Roberto taunts him, he shows his regret and rage for neglecting his family, but doesn't type it in his brain. He knows he isn't perfect but he knows he's good at finding the truth.
tenma is soo good for this human world of monsters 😭
Franz Bonaparta: Pure Evil
@Revenant 50% evil
50% broken
Yes he’s Inconsistently Heinous
But he felt remorseful about his crimes
I wouldnt say Bonaparta is pure evil because he loved Johan and Anna's mom and tried to protect them i think hes like 50% evil 35% broken 15% good
Curruntly no he felt remorseful about his crimes and so desperately wanted to repent
Wolfgang Grimmer❤
Johan: broken and pure evil. No in between
what his backstory never saw the show
i’m just getting recommended this video because i saw a video about how to manipulate like johan
@@microwaveddoorknob8211noone ever loved him and he got brainwashed he doesnt even have a real name
@@louisvau4132 He does, but only his mother and Tenma know, and it is very possible that even his mother has forgotten him, so only Tenma knows his name, a name that has not been revealed.
Yes
Even Eva Heinemen is evil the way she treats kenzo is proof of that , she gets humbled later in life when she goes through divorce after divorce and becomes a alcoholic.
then in the end she helped tenma to prove his innocence without her it was naerly impossible to prove that he is inoccent
If eva is evil the johan lunge are all evil
she got good at the end because she lost martin
I love how Tenma humbled her by not wanting to go back to her 😂 such a bitchy character
Wolfgang is Good & broken
he literally lives to bring pain to people. he is broken but that doesn’t change the fact that he is pure evil
Grimmer is beyond broken.
The biggest piece of Grimmer is a grain of sand big.
If you can say anyone in this anime is pure evil or good, you haven't undrestood the story
but the same story brings minor excuses that in themselves do not take away anything from what it really is, the story wants to delve deeper into the question "can the concept of evil theoretically exist?" and although the story tries to make you notice that johan It is not pure evil, the excuses that are taken into account are automatically removed by Johan himself.
@@Sonic2024freedomeraOh no, I totally got you but I was against the concept of "ranking" Monster's characters like that itself.
@@a.prochazka2694 ok
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Tenma is pure good
Detective Lunge is mad underrated, dude was way ahead of everyone in putting everything together. He's the dark horse of the anime
Yes, but he was psycho. We don't know why he was in BKA. He could be evil
@@paleolibeknah he's good guy and a creepy man 😅
@@OexiO99 he doesn't feel anything. He has no reason to be good.
@@paleolibek what does that even mean
@@OexiO99 he could be evil. Maybe he was
Id say lunge is broken as well, but in his own way
autism
Intrapersonal workaholic guy who doesn't even have time for his family
Finally someone understands that Johan is totally broken
Agreed!!
Johan is pure evil. You just want him to be broken to give sympathy, he is literally monster
@@KamleshPatel-md5kvyeah, but he is not just evil and that. He was evil yes, but because of the goverment experiments, Kinderheim 511, and the fact that also he was near death line. Anne Liebhart went to a normal orphanage and his mind just blocked all the bad memories.
@@KamleshPatel-md5kv The entire point of the show was to show how he was created to be a monster, lmao
@@beniocabeleleiraleila5799well still he was evil. He is emotion less. A complete monster
Lunge is just obsessed with his job to an unhealthy degree lol
Johan is pure evil 💀
Saying johan is pure evil is the a proof of low iq
Johan existence is actually better than anyone of you if he was real..
Also...johan is also a better person than your whole bloodline..you just cant understand
He burnt the books how i that not evil
you missed the point of the show then
That's the entire point of the anime. Showcasing how you completely break a human psychologically until there are no emotions or connections left and how they reach a point of true nihilism. And Johan IS that experiment. Therefore, Johan = broken.
@@liron5213 the "point" of the show does not in any way negate the *Fact* that Johan is an evil person.
I don't understand the mental gymnastics you people are doing to think otherwise. Seek help.
Dr. Tenma pure good
Pure evil left the chat
😂
Tenma is literally the definition of good by the author
Johan is not pure evil nor broken he is purely broken
Evil and broken
It all started for Johan the moment his and Anna’s mother actually considered choosing and debating which one to keep instead of fiercely defending them like any true mother would.
bro johan is literally pure evil and broken at the same time
Eva : 70% broken 30% good
Tenma: too good for "good"
Lunge: none of them🗿 just a pj level logical detective that doesnt put emotions in his works
Anna : broken
Grimmer: broken
Richard: 80% broken 20% good
Johan: definiton of "evil" is too low for him
I bet Johan just needs a hug😢😢😭
Lunge is broken af
He took work as a distraction from reality
Lunge is my boi and he’s easily my favourite character in the whole series, like a human computer. I can relate to him a fair amount in an analytical sense
Aside from the vid , am i the only one or does yall think this slowed version would totally fit a garou edit🔥🔥
Good message, no one on this Earth is pure evil really...
Well Lunge kinda broken. He is a total workaholic. He doesn't even care about his family. He's a strange personality, but I can't say he's good :D
The fact that no one is pure evil but only broken in monster is so terrifying
Kenzo is the definition of humanity, giving him a 80% percent sounds disgraceful to me. But in the end of the day, it's your opinion and I respect it.
Johann is broken to the point he has become pure evil
I agree with this. Very accurated.
johan liebert is actually broken, before pure evil, until his tragedy & insecurities has shown in the ending scene, watch first, before disagreeing
Love this show
Tho Johan is definitely pure evil lol
Not really. He does evil actions but not pure evil.
All pure evil individuals are "broken" in one way or another, but Johan has pretty much 0 redeeming characteristics and is about as close to pure evil as possible.
No bro johan is broken due to Anna
He was trying to apologize anna at the end ep
Tenma - 50% Good, 50% Broken
Anna - 70% Broken, 30% Good
Lunge - Neutral
Johan - 65% Broken, 35% Pure evil
Grimmer - 70% Broken, 30% Good
Martin - 40% Broken, 60% Good
Bonaparta - Broken
Roberto - 50% Broken, 50% Influenced
Richard Braun - 100% Broken
Reichwenn - Good
Dieter - 99% Good, 1% Broken
Eva - 50% Broken, 30% Pure Evil, 20% Good (Eva is truly a complex character)
Karl - Good
"30% "PURE" evil"
@@strangeman876
well I don't see why she would deserve more or less, this woman has done some pretty horrible things (abandoning Tenma, denouncing him even though she knows he is innocent...)
Tenma is 💯 percent good
@@RetiredYae
broken doesn't mean bad and Tenma is clearly broken, a little traumatized by what he experienced
He is 100% good and 100% broken
You let his backstory distract you from the fact that Johan manipulated kids to kill each other because he wanted to find out how they tear each other to pieces.
Johan doesnt have emotions, he isnt broken, you cannot break humanity that was never there to begin with. He is a true psychopath.. he LACKS the fundamental capacity for human emotion. Likely not helped by the fact that he was fucking shot in the head and lived.
He killed the foster parents in germany and told his own sister to shoot him, fully aware that if he stuck around, his sister would never know peace.. She failed him in that, and thousands paid the price for it.. for even while his memories were shattered, repressed and in the dark, his shadow still had sway over him subconsciously.. the old him.
A monster is never born... It's created...
The only difference between a hero and a villain is that the villain chooses revenge from those people who didn't even do anything to him, but the hero thinks for the world.
@@Duck00701 wrong, sorry but psychopathy is a congenital issue and a physiological inability to feel empathy for others, not a trauma response to conditioning
@@Duck00701 further more Johan isn't a villain.. Roberto is a villain, Ronaparta Is a villain, the short guy that wanted Johan to be the next Hitler is a villain, the staff of kinderheim were villains, Johan isn't.. he is just the example that there exists monsters which you shouldn't attempt to control.. he is no different from a xenomorp from alien, every villain in those movies wants to control and use them, but every time they slaughter the villain by showing them they won't be controlled. Johan was BORN this way, not made this way.
@@159tonywasn't johan part of a experiment since his birth which caused the birth of being that can never be controlled and some may say it was the devil
The narrative of "Monster" conveys the notion that no individual is purely evil, even though we may find ourselves in disagreement with every single action or thought portrayed. The scenes in which Johan cried - on the night he asked Anna to shoot him at the library for Carl and upon gazing at the portraits of him and his sister at Bonaparte's house - reveal the vestiges of humanity that remain within him, even after the atrocities committed by 511 Kinderheim.
There are many other characters with even worse past than Johan. Johan's just totally pure evil
Nooooo, Johan is pure evil. as we hear his sister whisper constantly "absolute evil" but still
johan is broken, the pure evil one is franz bonaparta
lunge is broken, abandoned his family and didnt blink twice, flaked on his daughter and his brand new grandchild and adamant on proving a innocent man guilty. He a whole goon😂
Do part 2
Giancarlo esposito is my fan cast for heinrich
Tenma is pure angel❤😊
TENMA IS AN ANGEL. END OF DISCUSSION
Best anime ive seen in years im on episode 13
Someone who actually understands the series and that Johan isn't pure evil.
Demon slayer next please
I’m currently watching this AS WE SPEAK and johan is definitely pure evil and broken
Roberto: pure evil
Exactly he is Worse than Johan in my opinión
Wolfgang Grimmer, the magnificent Steiner❤. Man he's the 2nd best MC after Dr. Tenma. I literally bawled my eyes out when he died. Hes a goated character 🔥
nobody is pure evil i love that
Lunge was a Crazy Workaholic Man
Garou crying in the corner 😢😢
Bro what?
Richard D. Braun was so underrated.
Johan : totally good (killed me 😂)
As someone currently reafing the manga, my brain refuses to believe that Eva and Anna have blonde hair, even though the characters in the manga keep saying that anna is blonde
Johan is pure evil, come on. Also Tenma is just good.
I don’t think Johan got any pleasure from his killings though. That’s what to me makes him broken. It was all one big experiment to him.
@@liamwright2510if he didn't get pleasure by killing. Then why did he kill?
The narrative of "Monster" conveys the notion that no individual is purely Evil, even though we may find ourselves in disagreement with every single action or thought they portray.
Johan, a character burdened by tragedy, has the capacity for concern for others, for he, despite his monstrous nature, is fundamentally human. A purely malevolent entity would not have shown remorse over anything , nor would it have shed tears upon the realization of his abandonment by his mother.
He cares about others like any other human, which is his way of showing it isn't something we are mundanely familiar with, as we cannot comprehend the thoughts of someone who has lived through 511 Kinderheim.
Roberto and Johan are pure evil as they never regretted their decisions,Frantz is broken
This ending screams punk rock, and I(as a fan of Nirvana) like it
Putting Eva in broken category is what i don't agree with, later at the series yeah it does make sense but her introduction and her character was crazy to be considered just broken. And i also don't agree that Johan is totally broken.
Agreed
Johan: 20% pure evil 80% broken
Tenma: 20% broken 80% good
Eva: 70% percent broken 30% good
Lunge: 100% good
Anna: 70% good 30% broken
Grimmer: 90% broken 10% good
Lunge is 30% broken 70% good
Lunge's character development is just 🔥🔥🔥
Johan is so so so broken he's pure evil☠️
Tenma is 120 percent good
Johan is a pure evil man that was pushed by his trauma, I would say its a complicated balance of trauma and evil
No one is truly evil, actions build people
I was so sad to realize that Roberto and Grimme were friends
Eva broken my ass, she left the guy who liked him only because he didn't save a certain person
Them she realizes he was the only one who truly loved her
She tries to get on a relationship with him again he rejects it so eva then tries to get tenma in prison and this goes on for like the whole series until episode 74
A PERSON WHEN BORN IN ALWAYS A GOOD PERSON BUT THE WORLD BROKE THAT PERSON AND SOMETIME IT CAN MAKE THAT PERSON LIKE EVA (TOTALLY BROKEN) OR PURE EVEIL LIKE JOHAN
especially Johan, who was born evil, and he doesn't even try to change, or try to demonstrate something that truly shows that in his darkness, he has even something good.
I'.
M. Sad, because I know this is a good anime because it's old with old animating style because all the new styles I like they look pretty but the old styles holy s***, the story is f****** fantastic. Just look at kogios and boom f****** fantastic.
Grimmer is literally the definition of good
*tenma is the definition of good
pure evil : Roberto
He had a good side at first though...
no hes not pure evil he used to be good when he was a kid he lost all of his memories he doesnt remember anything and Johan gave him a purpose in life and now he works for johan so its means that hes Influenced/Broken
Oingo Boingo fan? Based@@nuclearcatbaby1131
Nope. But I still hate him
I used to think Johan was pure evil but I kind of feel like he's more broken anyway I think they should have made him just pure evil
Lets be honest. Martin is the best charecter of the entire anime. A bad habit of mine.
I love Johan
Roberto is tha devil himself
What about franz Bonaparta
I consider him 99% pure evil, 0.1% good (only because he regretted his actions)
Herr Runge hit hard...
Lunge:Just doin his job
Killua Zoldyck 50% broken , 50% good
Lunge is %50 evil %50 good. Lunge was playing his way, and while everyone was blaming Johan, Lunge was still trying to put Tenma in jail.
Lunge is good, but he can't process that some od his theories may be wrong, when he met Grimmer and heard about Johan, from Wolgang and Franz Bonaparta he immediately started helping stop Johan
that actually shows his determination, and not his evilness...He didn't wanna take any chances...that just shows how twisty cases he has solved
@@superbsiblings_absb2154no.. that just shows his arrogance , he didn't wanted to be proven wrong
@@DJISBESTLunge never really met with Johan until they put him side by side in the chopper. For someone, he is looking at Tenma, who gained a lot after the hospital deaths, skeptical. Until he starts to change his view after the suicide of the kid who Johan thought was Karl. Then he starts to understand that there is somebody named Johan. He just don’t understand how could he be so clean, imaginary. The failed perfect suicide.
@@naufalzamri7266 literally no
Johan came on news , everyone even knew his name , he just never investigated more
The only thing he did in the entire series was make tenmas work 10times harder with his arrogance
Also wtf you mean by that , he basically was 100% sure that tenma did it just cuz he profited from those people deaths...
He didn't even thought of other possibilities
Stop trying to defend stupidity
Nameless monsters went two seperate journey