Something I'd like to add here is that the Elemental salts *themselves* can be created at the Atronach Forge. They can be made with Ruby/Sapphire/Amethyst, a Salt Pile, and any kind of Soul Gem. This can be very helpful at least with procuring Fire and Void Salts, Frost Salts less so because of how rare sapphires are, but still. The Atronach Forge came in clutch when making a bunch of elemental bolts for a crossbow.
If you want Frost salts you can always just punch a guard in Winterhold and then be taken to the Chill and destroy the four "prison Wardens" that guard you there
To a new player: You can craft the lightning atronach staff with just one broom, void salts, orichalcum ore, and a greater soul gem. You don't need to craft all three. You can also power level yourself to level 100 conjuration very quickly by summoning bound sword over and over while hiding near enemies in about fifteen minutes. Once you do this you can go to Phineas and take the master conjurer quest to get your hands on a sigil stone. Once you have that and install it on the pedestal of the atronach forge many more recipes open up, including ways to cheaply get entire sets of daedric gear early in the game. If you have anniversary edition you can get a spell tome to summon an ayleid lich at practically level 1
To prevent being a glass cannon, - buy Magelight - stand just outside the gate to Solitude - turn to your left and face the mountain - continuously spam Magelight at the mountain You will level up Alteration pretty fast as you get xp for the distance that Magelight travels. Then you can invest your perk points in the Alteration tree to reduce the cost and improve the effectiveness of Mage Armour spells. The Atronach perk in the tree [100] allows you to absorb 30% the magica of any spell that hits you, turning you from a glass cannon into a mage tank. This includes dragon attacks.
Just stumbled upon that damn forge today and didn’t know what to do with it. I’m playing as a battle mage and the mage part is more of a battle and less of a mage.
If you want to unlock true magical freedom in skyrim, you're gonna either have to glitch by doing the rest. loop, creating high-level enchanted gear, or normal enchanted gear and putting everything on through the turning into a beast/vampire bug. If you're wondering "why doesnt it work?" You have to return to normal, turn to a beast again, and return to normal to activate all the items.
training conjuration each level will allow you to get daedric gear at the exact time you would reach it with smithing for, except smithing doesnt allow you to summon super demons that make legendary a breezee
I've never messed with that thing. I always thought it was for making atronachs and I'm not into conjuration, lol. I always play a full mage build, so I'm gonna have to go back and mess with it.
I like specing into conjuration personally and using that to support what ever thief/assassins thing I am doing. Honestly for as much as I like the cross bow and having swords that match my mod outfit bound weapons are just so much more OP as no carry weight.
I'm gonna try and use the forge in my next play through , it's such a cool concept but I feel like the game is WAY too mysterious about it (also that bug where you only get a daedric hammer and if you can't download the unofficial patch you're screwed)
for me, the hard part is getting the brooms for this. I assume the moonstone is for the storm atronach? thanks for the reminder of the moonstone ingots down there. couple tips for others; lydia LOVES destruction staves, and will actually pick them up and use them. with Dragonborn DLC, once you've earned the right to use Master Neloth's staff enchanter, you can only make ones for spells you already have. any tips for upping destruction easier? I can easily rack up conjuration, illusion, and now alteration fast enough, but I can't find anyplace to practice destruction spells on without being a fully dedicated mage and ending up a squishy wizard.
ruclips.net/video/rIPqfmgE_3Q/видео.html Destruction becomes a bit more useful when the damage starts to scale for you. I've taken to using my atronachs as potion timers so I know when to use a new one.
It takes less than *one* hour chopping firewood to earn 3000 Septims. About 10 seconds per axe swing, giving 2 firewood, times 3 is 30 seconds for 6 firewood worth 30 Septims. (It's actually slightly less than 30 seconds but I'll round it up for easier math.) This works out to about 1 Septim per second. So 3000 Septims worth of firewood takes about 50 minutes to chop. Add in some delay re-clicking on the block and also being a little late coming back from the bathroom or getting another drink from the fridge and we can say an even 1 hour for 3000 for even easier math. 😆
I use magic for the healing effect, summoning my goat, and the candlelight effect. It's freaking worthless otherwise. Illia uses magic and never runs out of charge when she isn't kneeling on the ground trying to recover from attacks.
That early Lvl1 Storm Atronach Staff is ridiculous. Ive used it for Illusion builds to Pacify/Harmony whole dungeons and use Stormy to fight bosses. Ash Guardians are good as well even without heart stones.
@gkw9882 yes found book.. probablly read it but exploring up towards the college proper, did read it but did not break nuts to understand it at that moment...I did find the book please go on.-Ernie Moore Jr.
@@twooharmony2000 *Tried answering from memory, went to the College and looked. Then deleted the first answer. I now see that there is lots of information in the comments here, read those mate.
Yea I've never used that forge ever, and I've got 3000 hours in the game, what I enjoy about Skyrim that I don't get in say ESO. Is I enjoy being a spells sword, I don't like the magic staff's. To me it's a oversized Harry Potter wand, and it's just not for me. However if other people like them fantastic, be boring if we all liked the same thing. So yes I enjoy being a spell sword, however without mods like the adding more spells mod. I forget what it's called, being a spell sword is not great, as the vanilla spells just never seem to get particularly powerful. Or I'm playing wrong which it could be, there is a lot in this game like the forge I've never used.
enchanting, shalidor inside scrolls, and staff of magnus are what you need to be a powerful mage in vanilla skyrim. in ESO, any class is either spellsword or pure mage lol even if your skill cost stamina, it's still magicky :D
Yup. In ANY setting that contains magic, the most powerful is ALWAYS the summoner - not only they create decoys to soak enemy damage, but these decoys also fight on their own, making the summoners role VERY safe: Just hide in a corner, and occasionally re-summon your minions when they die.
Dont really understand how this is making you Over Powered, unless you mean OP at a low level? Or is creating Staffs that do the same things as a Spell, OP?
Yeah, I'm just talking about the lower levels mostly. These are a great crutch if you're having trouble dealing with something at level 4 on legendary.
1:20 Neither the wiki nor the book tell you to just throw random stuff in there and hope for the best. The book tells you almost exactly how to use the forge, and the wiki DOES TELL YOU EXACTLY how to use it, down to exactly how the different AE additions work. It’s not a good sign that you’re starting the video with such misinformation
@ it does get updated regularly, but I’ve been playing personally with a storm atro staff made at the forge, by the wiki, for 5 years. Sry, but it’s not new.
Something I'd like to add here is that the Elemental salts *themselves* can be created at the Atronach Forge. They can be made with Ruby/Sapphire/Amethyst, a Salt Pile, and any kind of Soul Gem. This can be very helpful at least with procuring Fire and Void Salts, Frost Salts less so because of how rare sapphires are, but still. The Atronach Forge came in clutch when making a bunch of elemental bolts for a crossbow.
I think this is where I think the Crown of Barenziah reward get very well much it's worth in gold.
useful when ive hoarded every gem of every type ive come across the entire game. i like to fill the Heljarchen Hall basement with them.
I need this for the quest with the smithing in riften thanx
I just use the magical power of the whiterun doors and lydia
If you want Frost salts you can always just punch a guard in Winterhold and then be taken to the Chill and destroy the four "prison Wardens" that guard you there
To a new player: You can craft the lightning atronach staff with just one broom, void salts, orichalcum ore, and a greater soul gem. You don't need to craft all three. You can also power level yourself to level 100 conjuration very quickly by summoning bound sword over and over while hiding near enemies in about fifteen minutes. Once you do this you can go to Phineas and take the master conjurer quest to get your hands on a sigil stone. Once you have that and install it on the pedestal of the atronach forge many more recipes open up, including ways to cheaply get entire sets of daedric gear early in the game.
If you have anniversary edition you can get a spell tome to summon an ayleid lich at practically level 1
Soul trap on a dead body works well for conjuration leveling, as well.
@@cXtotheXj yeah but its slow
@@cXtotheXjOr your horse
@@robyourchezHow so? You can rest to instantly recover your mana.
chopping wood like it was my caĺing has been my first skyrim playthrough. loving it
Wait, so in all these years I haven't been able to find something on the atronach forge, because in reality nobody know how to use it? Wow
People knew how to use it, it's just so underwhelming no one really bothered telling others about it.
To prevent being a glass cannon,
- buy Magelight
- stand just outside the gate to Solitude
- turn to your left and face the mountain
- continuously spam Magelight at the mountain
You will level up Alteration pretty fast as you get xp for the distance that Magelight travels. Then you can invest your perk points in the Alteration tree to reduce the cost and improve the effectiveness of Mage Armour spells. The Atronach perk in the tree [100] allows you to absorb 30% the magica of any spell that hits you, turning you from a glass cannon into a mage tank. This includes dragon attacks.
Never have I ever used that forge
Little add to your great guide. You can actually use empty greater soul gems, aswell, to save some gold.
Just stumbled upon that damn forge today and didn’t know what to do with it. I’m playing as a battle mage and the mage part is more of a battle and less of a mage.
If you want to unlock true magical freedom in skyrim, you're gonna either have to glitch by doing the rest. loop, creating high-level enchanted gear, or normal enchanted gear and putting everything on through the turning into a beast/vampire bug. If you're wondering "why doesnt it work?" You have to return to normal, turn to a beast again, and return to normal to activate all the items.
There’s literally a journal on a table near the forge entrance that explains it to a point.
Ha that's funny and also sounds painful, you will get there.
training conjuration each level will allow you to get daedric gear at the exact time you would reach it with smithing for, except smithing doesnt allow you to summon super demons that make legendary a breezee
Now we know!
And knowing is half the battle!
HOMELESS JOE!
I've never messed with that thing. I always thought it was for making atronachs and I'm not into conjuration, lol. I always play a full mage build, so I'm gonna have to go back and mess with it.
I like specing into conjuration personally and using that to support what ever thief/assassins thing I am doing. Honestly for as much as I like the cross bow and having swords that match my mod outfit bound weapons are just so much more OP as no carry weight.
I usually use it to make daedric armor and weapons early to hold me over until I can get to 100 smithing
I'm gonna try and use the forge in my next play through , it's such a cool concept but I feel like the game is WAY too mysterious about it (also that bug where you only get a daedric hammer and if you can't download the unofficial patch you're screwed)
Nice, I never really knew what to do with that forge.
I look forward to seeing more. Great vid
You can get Daedric gear at the Forge, spell books, staves, salts and a couple other things I’m blanking on rn.
for me, the hard part is getting the brooms for this. I assume the moonstone is for the storm atronach? thanks for the reminder of the moonstone ingots down there. couple tips for others; lydia LOVES destruction staves, and will actually pick them up and use them. with Dragonborn DLC, once you've earned the right to use Master Neloth's staff enchanter, you can only make ones for spells you already have.
any tips for upping destruction easier? I can easily rack up conjuration, illusion, and now alteration fast enough, but I can't find anyplace to practice destruction spells on without being a fully dedicated mage and ending up a squishy wizard.
ruclips.net/video/rIPqfmgE_3Q/видео.html Destruction becomes a bit more useful when the damage starts to scale for you. I've taken to using my atronachs as potion timers so I know when to use a new one.
It takes less than *one* hour chopping firewood to earn 3000 Septims. About 10 seconds per axe swing, giving 2 firewood, times 3 is 30 seconds for 6 firewood worth 30 Septims. (It's actually slightly less than 30 seconds but I'll round it up for easier math.)
This works out to about 1 Septim per second.
So 3000 Septims worth of firewood takes about 50 minutes to chop. Add in some delay re-clicking on the block and also being a little late coming back from the bathroom or getting another drink from the fridge and we can say an even 1 hour for 3000 for even easier math. 😆
Holy shit.
I had no idea the forge could make this stuff. I just thought it summoned atronachs.
What else can it make?
You can make the atronach spell tomes and daedric armor with the right ingredients.
3:53 good cute comment.-Ernie Moore Jr.
Magic tends to get weaker the older a world is so it checks out.
I use magic for the healing effect, summoning my goat, and the candlelight effect. It's freaking worthless otherwise. Illia uses magic and never runs out of charge when she isn't kneeling on the ground trying to recover from attacks.
2:13 lol the astronaut forge
That forge literally makes you so op that you break the game....
That early Lvl1 Storm Atronach Staff is ridiculous. Ive used it for Illusion builds to Pacify/Harmony whole dungeons and use Stormy to fight bosses.
Ash Guardians are good as well even without heart stones.
Where did you get the list of what to gather?? Where does it say...-Ernie Moore Jr.
Have you found the book that's in the room next to the forge?
@gkw9882 yes found book.. probablly read it but exploring up towards the college proper, did read it but did not break nuts to understand it at that moment...I did find the book please go on.-Ernie Moore Jr.
@@twooharmony2000 *Tried answering from memory, went to the College and looked. Then deleted the first answer. I now see that there is lots of information in the comments here, read those mate.
Yea I've never used that forge ever, and I've got 3000 hours in the game, what I enjoy about Skyrim that I don't get in say ESO. Is I enjoy being a spells sword, I don't like the magic staff's. To me it's a oversized Harry Potter wand, and it's just not for me. However if other people like them fantastic, be boring if we all liked the same thing. So yes I enjoy being a spell sword, however without mods like the adding more spells mod. I forget what it's called, being a spell sword is not great, as the vanilla spells just never seem to get particularly powerful. Or I'm playing wrong which it could be, there is a lot in this game like the forge I've never used.
enchanting, shalidor inside scrolls, and staff of magnus are what you need to be a powerful mage in vanilla skyrim. in ESO, any class is either spellsword or pure mage lol even if your skill cost stamina, it's still magicky :D
Yup. In ANY setting that contains magic, the most powerful is ALWAYS the summoner - not only they create decoys to soak enemy damage, but these decoys also fight on their own, making the summoners role VERY safe: Just hide in a corner, and occasionally re-summon your minions when they die.
Well Faaaaawk that's awesome, I wanna do it and sell the Staff
Dont really understand how this is making you Over Powered, unless you mean OP at a low level? Or is creating Staffs that do the same things as a Spell, OP?
Yeah, I'm just talking about the lower levels mostly. These are a great crutch if you're having trouble dealing with something at level 4 on legendary.
(laughs in console comands)
So sick🤪🤙
1:20 Neither the wiki nor the book tell you to just throw random stuff in there and hope for the best. The book tells you almost exactly how to use the forge, and the wiki DOES TELL YOU EXACTLY how to use it, down to exactly how the different AE additions work. It’s not a good sign that you’re starting the video with such misinformation
Huh, the wiki's been updated since I put the video up, good to know.
@ it does get updated regularly, but I’ve been playing personally with a storm atro staff made at the forge, by the wiki, for 5 years. Sry, but it’s not new.
@@basildraws OP also doesnt know how to read half the names in the game so i wouldnt take his misinformation or justifications too seriously
Misinformation and such an ego.
COOL