31:20 Steve main here. MainMan is wrong, and it's not even close. Steve's best move by far is 1, 2, 1. It has 4 extensions. 1, 2, 1 Flicker, 1, 2, 1 Peekaboo, 1, 2, 1 Duck in, and 1, 2, 1, 2 and it jails. The level of threat and harassment you are able to safely imploy at the highest level of Tekken Tekken has to offer is simply astounding. Strings aren't supposed to be this good. Fahkuram's design philosophy might as well have been ripped from this string specifically. Your ability to straight up enforce your will is second to none and the way you can simply tell the opponent to back the fuck up *For* *Real* is only really matched by the Electric. But Steve literally just presses 1 and then 2 and then 1 again and presents almost the same level of threat with 5 different choices including not doing anything or if you're a madman and willing to 1, 2, 1 Sway right in their face which totals to 7 choices and that's not nothing at the wall when you can Gut Drill, or Sway Left body shot Flicker. Really watch high level Steve and see how unsung 1, 2, 1 actually goes as it pertains to how much work it puts in. I straight up didn't think Back 1 was this good *Before* the nerfs unless we're talking console release all the way back when. After the nerfs? I don't know about all that chief. I think it's Top 6 if you count Sway, Duck in, and Albatross as moves. It's still good, but it's earnestly whiff punishable and that *Sucks* I know I hyped up this move, but it's the kind of thing that only gets better as you as a player get better. 1, 2, 1 is just ridiculous, and Back 1 has cast this shadow over it that makes people think its worse than it is. 1, 2, 1 is freaking insane and it always has been.
As a Julia main, party crasher is God tier. It's so good tier . However I will say that her qcf2 launcher is just as good as a safe i15 launcher that high crushes and has a lot of set ups where you can start a move then high crush with qcf2
That's really respectful of you, I understand that it may be the character you like and it's not your fault that he's broken (not talking specifically about Hwo) but many people just spam these abusable moves from the get-go and are super disrespectful for no reason so we really appreciate people like you in the community.
I literally just faced a Julia, and in the middle of the long set, i started getting pissed at the elbow move. Jokingly telling myself that shit must be an i12 mid, lo and behold. Didnt know what move it was exactly since I dont own her, but knew immediately what TMM was referring to as soon as he started talking. That elbow is no joke.
So, little correction to TMM here. Bob's CD1 got nerfed on its recovery to match electric recovery in S4 last patch. So even though it still recovers quickly it's not as broken as it used to.
@Living Breed Same. She's my 2nd main, and I love how she's the polar opposite of my actual main (Paul). It actually helped me get so much better at Tekken learning to play 2 different style characters, which probably helped me get better more than anything.
35:00 Alisa's b1, 1+2 is launch punishable on block. It's pretty bad actually (no one uses it at high level), but leave it to an Alisa hater to make it seem OP lol.
And that safe uf1 CH string. Basically carried my braindead Anna into red ranks back in the early Season 2 days. Just use forward roll 4 into massive plus frames into uf1 string, easy 90+ dmg. Pair it with the df1 strings, db4, that beefy stance low-high kick and forward roll 3 and I practically steam rolled every opponent unfamiliar with her.
31:22 I love Down+Forward+2 lol, it's such a disgusting move, it reminds me a bit of Devil's (Kazuya) twin pistons from Tag 1, obviously it's not as potent because it's not tracking as well and doesn't do quite as much damage, but it's as close as a Tekken 7 move can be.
Other video suggestion could be, what would you take of each character if you were to merge one move of each character together? For example, a lot of characters have strong wr 2 or ff 2, which one would you take? What would you take of the other characters? It makes for a great video imo
Bryan: DF3 snake edge. Homing, launcher, high crushes, unseeable at 29 frames, and if you taunt snake edge it's unblockable. On large characters it also practically death combos. It is parriable, but since they never expect it it's actually not. Basically a perfect move for Bryan, if not the entire game, maybe even throughout the series.
Its not down 2 that allows the death combos. Death combos are not a thing that happens anymore anyways with akuma, but it is still possible and if you srsly go for it you use standing 2 , its 15 f and requires a frame perfect cancel and does 10 damage more.
This video would've been 100x better if you actually showed the moves like in practice mode or something. Instead of just saying "down forward 2". Normally love your content just a suggestion.
Noctis' best move is b2. It leaves you at -9 in your opponent's face if blocked, but can absolutely demolish your opponent's health bar in a matter of seconds when conditioned by abusing db3 (which can't be stepped). So if your defence is good enough to not care too much about losing your turn, b2 will absolutely turn out as Noctis' most valuable move and Knee has easily proven this in his numerous VODs. Though of course uf1, df2 and db2,1+2 are great choices as well
king's giant swing ? a high grab who gets ducked under and launch punished ? he got b1 - 12 frame ch launcher, df2 - 12 frame ch launcher into half hp ?
Riiiiiiiiight, just like EWGF is shit love cuz it's a high right? Same with Zafina ff2 while I'm at it, or people's magic 4, nah Steve B1 is bad too while I'm at it (I hope it was a joke 😅)
At the highest level of play d/f 2 might be #1. Assuming the King can do the combo vs females. It's an i13 safe CH launcher. Meanwhile GS is pretty fundamental to Kings game plan, it's what enables his throw game to work at all. The design of the character is ambiguous throws that the opponent has to guess means you can use throws instead of lows. With your back to the wall gs is a 10 frame throw that does 70 damage. It has similar utility of a very good hellsweep or demoman. Edit: I do think you can win with just CH's and pokes and no throws. But then you could play Steve and have better mids.
Yeah, King's best move is pretty definitively df2, probably followed by df1. There are very few safe i13 mids in the game which launch on CH like that, even if it is pretty finnicky on half the cast. b1 is fine but its garbage hitboxes hold it back. ff1 is one of the most overrated moves in the game - it has every property you could possibly want but at i23 it's too slow to be a reliable approach or homing move. I guess GS is his best throw because it's i10, but iSW definitely has much better oki.
I agree that df2, b1 and also shove are his best moves. I'd probably go with df2. Majin said that move is broken. Giant Swing isn't that hard to break beyond a certain level and they made it easier to tech off the floor in one of the previous seasons.
As a Lidia main, I feel happy to know her ff2 is her best move, I would say her df2 is pretty close to it. I wish I could win a match only doing ff2 and df2.
Next time MainMan, could you go into practice mode and swap between the characters there? So you can quickly show the moves :) You could explain while changing characters from there
Do you feel Leo is stronger than what is represented in the more recent tier lists? It seemed like it based on your reaction to the character and viable moves.
@@BEDCORN Yes really good i12 punisher that gives Star burst, I also should have said f2 series f2,1 is -10 and ch conformable to f2,1,1+2 for like 45dmg Actually, I forgot ss4, that's better
@@callmeweizee My bad idk some characters that much, judging from the ones I fought I guess is Cali roll and db2, same and uf3 for Lucky Chloe, for Eddy ss3+4 & df3+4 and for Nina qcf1 and ws1,1+2. Idk how I forgot Paul: df2 and ss3
Let me fix Eliza : Jumping 4 is untrue since her divekicks exists... D3 is great for mixup in the corner but other than that not as good as akuma FF2 is her best move And for second I'd say just jumping back or divekick. I really like FF4,2 too, hirconfirmable on hit, can use the ex version of dark wave for a frame trap etc... (tracking wise it's meh sadly tho so idk if we can consider it one of her best tools) Honorable mention to ex dp tho 😂 Edit : Other than that I mostly agree with some few minor tweaks like Heihachi F3 over df1 and things like Gigas d2 replaced with f1+2 or ff2 or df1 💜 (ofc other examples are possible too but I mostly agree)
d3 for Eliza? d3 is terrible, only because it's so inconsistent. It's nothing like Akuma's where he can seemingly clean hit from wherever. Eliza has to be right under your testes to get her clean hit. It's even questionable at the wall, especially on certain characters like Feng, who, for some awful reason, sometimes completely ignores her clean hit even when pinned against the wall, enabling him to block the follow-up and punish. Eliza players have been begging for d3 to be fixed since launch, only to silence from Bamco.
ganryus df2 ironically has soooo much range problems but he relys on it more than other characters , its one of the few df2s in the game that cant punish alot of minus 16 moves , it use to have a bunch of range but they changed that in like season 3 or 4
If we saying about defining attacks, I think jfsr is a pick for Hwoarang. And also I have to say, that d3,4 shouldn't be in this game in this condition. It should does 50% less damage, or it shouldn't be a natural combo. I don't want to see this d3,4 and this backlash in Tekken 8. Please don't dumb down my character
for kazumi it's not her 1 or df1 that are that good tbh, yes she uses them a lot,but they are not thar exceptional her BEST move is for sure WR2. Fast, infinite range, mid, safe, pushback, resets neutral, knocks down, chunky damage, super hard to sidestep. She is not a character without that move tbh.
Huge missed opportunity to not have gone into training mode and showcased the moves themselves, and just swap from character to character with "simple select".
No way is Giant Swing King's best move. The nerf to throws in Tekken 7 and then a further nerf in a previous season to the tech off the floor really weakened it. df2 is likely his best move,
I think yoshi best move is his healing move. Just because he has that move he controls the entire pace of the match. He always gets to play his game regardless of character because he will just heal. He forces you to approach
Nina’s ss 1+2 is not broken. It’s relatively slow too when you factor in the ss frames and is really only effective from a ss1 as a tool to keep people from ducking and requires no execution. It’s not really effective as a keep out tool either. Db 2 is very good and has a case for being her strongest move, but it’s also slow. I’d say her df1, df1,2 (u/d extension) are her most useful moves along with her ss1 cancel pressure at a wall. They allow her to set up her pressure and keeps the opponent guessing as to what’s coming next.
He is talking about the ss1+2 followup up. Doing d2 makes it a launch but it is hard. I still dont agree with his pick tho, that move is -11(i think gigas can punish it) with pushback so you cant even pressure afterwards. I barely use that move. B22 or df1,2 are her best moves by far
@@gordoredpb9 no man ive done both sides before it is possible. Ive also seen slide pick up from some ranges but i need to test it out more. Also it is possible without ch. Ive never seen that move look different on ch so i dont know why that would change anything
@@Nico-tz7ut nah... steppable, slightly reactable, -14 so a bit bad in some matchups and too plus for it's own good...definitely top 5 tho. That's my opinion.
There are many ways to counter marduk, I don't think his tackle is good. And on top of that, you can pressure the crap out of marduk and you wouldn't even have to deal with matchup knowledge. And razor rush is definitely NOT a good move, hopkick destroys most mixups including delaying because you can always jab or hopkick and once lei sidesteps a hopkick is almost always going to be a confirmed launch.
This video wasn't about how easily it is to counter a character or move. Tmm made the list assuming the move hits and what follows and options. Marduk tackle is really really good. Marduk has a 2/3 chance of hitting you and has set ups into tackle. I'm not a Marduk main at all but the tackle pressure is real
@@bluelion7342 If it's only based on what hits, lei's ff3 would be the greatest movie he has or maybe his drunken headbutt. With Marduk it would definitely be ff32 since the damage is super high. In my opinion though tackle is too weak and all of the setups Marduk has are fake. Perfect god fist has a good video on some of them if you are interested 👍.
I am going to disagree. I think tackle is without a doubt his best move. Of course there are ways to counter it otherwise it would be unstoppable but you forget you can set it up from a tech roll trap, your parry goes into it, throws go into it and you have the rd. I am no lei main but I know for a fact razor rush is a good move. Every lei uses, every pro lei uses it. Ask any pro player and I guarantee that razor rush will come up. Whether razor rush is his best move, idk.
Kuni - 0:46
Ganryu - 1:50
Zafina - 2:43
Julia - 3:17
Mr. Fair and Honest - 4:20
Anna - 6:07
Geese - 7:11
Eliza - 8:19
Noctis - 9:22
Lei - 10:10
AK - 10:35
Negan - 12:00
Leroy - 12:54
Fahk - 13:50
Lidia - 14:07
MR - 14:30
Nina - 15:38
Yoshi - 16:48
Drag - 17:49
Hwo - 18:36
Law - 20:50
Shaheen - 21:57
Akuma - 22:40
Kaz - 24:01
Heihachi - 24:07
Kazumi - 24:30
LC - 24:47
Lili - 25:33
Lars - 26:27
Xiaoyu - 27:34
Jack - 28:06
Lee - 28:30
Kuma - 28:48
Miguel - 29:13
Bob - 29:38
Bryan - 30:08
King - 31:02
Steve - 31:15
Paul - 31:21
Josie - 31:27
Kat - 31:54
Jin - 33:03
DJ - 33:23
Claudio - 33:30
Gigass - 33:40
Asuka - 33:54
Alisa - 34:19
Leo - 35:07
Feng - 35:47
Eddy - 38:03
What took u soo long.
Mr Fair and honest 💀
I love your marduk naming
Thank you dear sir or madam, you are the best, people like you are legends! Honor!
Claudio only got 10 seconds of screen time
Ganryu’s best move is the two people on this planet that main him.
As a Tekken noob, showing footage of the moves would have been nice
loading times are a bit long video would be 1hour and half
@@arfanansari210 he should have edit, but he does not know what that word means🤣
@@arfanansari210 atleast we could understand what the moves are
@@Demon_Aura i know you’re joking but mainman used to be very nifty with his old combo videos
@@Demon_Aura mans did 3d modelling 15 years ago and you think he cant edit?
31:20 Steve main here. MainMan is wrong, and it's not even close. Steve's best move by far is 1, 2, 1. It has 4 extensions. 1, 2, 1 Flicker, 1, 2, 1 Peekaboo, 1, 2, 1 Duck in, and 1, 2, 1, 2 and it jails. The level of threat and harassment you are able to safely imploy at the highest level of Tekken Tekken has to offer is simply astounding. Strings aren't supposed to be this good. Fahkuram's design philosophy might as well have been ripped from this string specifically. Your ability to straight up enforce your will is second to none and the way you can simply tell the opponent to back the fuck up *For* *Real* is only really matched by the Electric. But Steve literally just presses 1 and then 2 and then 1 again and presents almost the same level of threat with 5 different choices including not doing anything or if you're a madman and willing to 1, 2, 1 Sway right in their face which totals to 7 choices and that's not nothing at the wall when you can Gut Drill, or Sway Left body shot Flicker.
Really watch high level Steve and see how unsung 1, 2, 1 actually goes as it pertains to how much work it puts in. I straight up didn't think Back 1 was this good *Before* the nerfs unless we're talking console release all the way back when. After the nerfs? I don't know about all that chief. I think it's Top 6 if you count Sway, Duck in, and Albatross as moves. It's still good, but it's earnestly whiff punishable and that *Sucks*
I know I hyped up this move, but it's the kind of thing that only gets better as you as a player get better. 1, 2, 1 is just ridiculous, and Back 1 has cast this shadow over it that makes people think its worse than it is. 1, 2, 1 is freaking insane and it always has been.
Can do 121 into nothing as well, arguably better since you have the choice of movement after it's blocked
As a Julia main, party crasher is God tier. It's so good tier . However I will say that her qcf2 launcher is just as good as a safe i15 launcher that high crushes and has a lot of set ups where you can start a move then high crush with qcf2
Even i as a hwoarang main will say backlash and d3,4 is ridiculously powerful and abusable. I rarely use it unless ppl mash a lot
That's really respectful of you, I understand that it may be the character you like and it's not your fault that he's broken (not talking specifically about Hwo) but many people just spam these abusable moves from the get-go and are super disrespectful for no reason so we really appreciate people like you in the community.
I also try to apply the same ideology with Bryan, in my mind in a match i never think to snake edge the opponent unless it is done to me first.
But... The vast majority mash so you are still doing it too don't you?
I would say his d34 and b3 mid launch from flamingo only - 10
Seriously I rarely use his hellsweep or d3,4 and I don't even use backlash other than for my jfsr combo
I literally just faced a Julia, and in the middle of the long set, i started getting pissed at the elbow move. Jokingly telling myself that shit must be an i12 mid, lo and behold. Didnt know what move it was exactly since I dont own her, but knew immediately what TMM was referring to as soon as he started talking. That elbow is no joke.
This is just another tier list in disguise 🤣
What disguise? 🤔
So, little correction to TMM here.
Bob's CD1 got nerfed on its recovery to match electric recovery in S4 last patch.
So even though it still recovers quickly it's not as broken as it used to.
You should do the best and worst punishes for 10f, 12f ~ ws 12f, 13f etc. That'be dope.
Fun video great idea
Top or top 3 moves per character
I hope other creator's do this too
Fun to hear everyone's opinion
Do one for the worst attacks
Feels good to play a character simply because you like them only to find out they have really good moves later down the road.
Which character?
@@Lahmeinthehouse Julia.
@Living Breed Same. She's my 2nd main, and I love how she's the polar opposite of my actual main (Paul). It actually helped me get so much better at Tekken learning to play 2 different style characters, which probably helped me get better more than anything.
You know you’re getting old when TMM doesn’t even mention Noctis’s ORA
glad i didn’t have the game in those days lol
Hey nice this was my suggestion :)
35:00 Alisa's b1, 1+2 is launch punishable on block. It's pretty bad actually (no one uses it at high level), but leave it to an Alisa hater to make it seem OP lol.
Anna’s would be ss3 (especially with walls) Otherwise it’s qcf1 that is also strong to spam.
Unsafe spamable moves are fc df2 and df4
And that safe uf1 CH string. Basically carried my braindead Anna into red ranks back in the early Season 2 days. Just use forward roll 4 into massive plus frames into uf1 string, easy 90+ dmg. Pair it with the df1 strings, db4, that beefy stance low-high kick and forward roll 3 and I practically steam rolled every opponent unfamiliar with her.
As a kuni main i like her df 2 launcher although generic 15 frame launcher but her range is very good on it. But set 2 is good yes
Second df2 launcher
It's the only punishable df2 that doesn't launch crouchers
I laughed insantly when he got to feng, where do u even start with him lol
Now I want TMM to give us the order of characters he loves to play from best to worst
Would be the most predictable video ever
He already did one, it's called the fun factor tier list that he did a while ago
31:22 I love Down+Forward+2 lol, it's such a disgusting move, it reminds me a bit of Devil's (Kazuya) twin pistons from Tag 1, obviously it's not as potent because it's not tracking as well and doesn't do quite as much damage, but it's as close as a Tekken 7 move can be.
Other video suggestion could be, what would you take of each character if you were to merge one move of each character together?
For example, a lot of characters have strong wr 2 or ff 2, which one would you take? What would you take of the other characters? It makes for a great video imo
The point would be to create the best ideal tekken character, with moves that are in the game
@@eliamaran3929 Thats called launch Leroy
Incredible suggestion by that person for this topic
Awesome videos as always....:) now do top 5 moves every character!
Bryan has an underrated move qcb 2,4 into soccer kick its absurd
the 4 is duckable
@@LoadedTunafish it is hit confirmable
b4 is also underrated. Mid, safe on block most of the time, fast and big damage with the mach breaker after. Enourmous damage at the wall.
Ki Charge tier list when?
Bryan: DF3 snake edge. Homing, launcher, high crushes, unseeable at 29 frames, and if you taunt snake edge it's unblockable. On large characters it also practically death combos. It is parriable, but since they never expect it it's actually not. Basically a perfect move for Bryan, if not the entire game, maybe even throughout the series.
It’s not unseeable and it’s death on block
Unseeable at 29 frames....
Half a second to react.
Tell me you can't catch a ball without saying you can't catch
guys I think he's joking
If this was a twitch chat this would definitely have been a copy pasta xD
@@Guitar-Dog Tell me you didn't get a joke without saying you didn't get a joke.
Hot take(From a Yellow Ranked Miguel):
F4 or D/F+1 are his best moves, mainly because they range from CH utility to Transitions to Savage.
As a Leo player I feel like it’s got to be df2. Has a lot of reach and is fast and ends up being spammed a lot.
Bro has a leo main It's definitely her df2 😅
Many moves to choose from. I also like qcf1, qcf3+4, ff2, ws4,1+2 and db1+2,1+2 (hit confirmable wallsplat)
@Erlend Midtgård Paulsen Those are really good moves aswell 👍🏽
7:37
Can you lowparry it though?
Its not down 2 that allows the death combos. Death combos are not a thing that happens anymore anyways with akuma, but it is still possible and if you srsly go for it you use standing 2 , its 15 f and requires a frame perfect cancel and does 10 damage more.
This video would've been 100x better if you actually showed the moves like in practice mode or something. Instead of just saying "down forward 2". Normally love your content just a suggestion.
In my opinion Alisa's up 4 is her best attack, that scissor kick slam always counters everything...
2:13 Ganryu's df 2 is -11
Noctis' best move is b2. It leaves you at -9 in your opponent's face if blocked, but can absolutely demolish your opponent's health bar in a matter of seconds when conditioned by abusing db3 (which can't be stepped). So if your defence is good enough to not care too much about losing your turn, b2 will absolutely turn out as Noctis' most valuable move and Knee has easily proven this in his numerous VODs. Though of course uf1, df2 and db2,1+2 are great choices as well
Nice concept, btw Lars' best move is ws2
king's giant swing ? a high grab who gets ducked under and launch punished ? he got b1 - 12 frame ch launcher, df2 - 12 frame ch launcher into half hp ?
Riiiiiiiiight, just like EWGF is shit love cuz it's a high right?
Same with Zafina ff2 while I'm at it, or people's magic 4, nah Steve B1 is bad too while I'm at it (I hope it was a joke 😅)
Other than that I do agree that B1 is probably the best move for King or df1,2
At the highest level of play d/f 2 might be #1. Assuming the King can do the combo vs females.
It's an i13 safe CH launcher.
Meanwhile GS is pretty fundamental to Kings game plan, it's what enables his throw game to work at all.
The design of the character is ambiguous throws that the opponent has to guess means you can use throws instead of lows.
With your back to the wall gs is a 10 frame throw that does 70 damage.
It has similar utility of a very good hellsweep or demoman.
Edit: I do think you can win with just CH's and pokes and no throws. But then you could play Steve and have better mids.
Yeah, King's best move is pretty definitively df2, probably followed by df1. There are very few safe i13 mids in the game which launch on CH like that, even if it is pretty finnicky on half the cast. b1 is fine but its garbage hitboxes hold it back. ff1 is one of the most overrated moves in the game - it has every property you could possibly want but at i23 it's too slow to be a reliable approach or homing move.
I guess GS is his best throw because it's i10, but iSW definitely has much better oki.
I agree that df2, b1 and also shove are his best moves. I'd probably go with df2. Majin said that move is broken. Giant Swing isn't that hard to break beyond a certain level and they made it easier to tech off the floor in one of the previous seasons.
As a Lidia main, I feel happy to know her ff2 is her best move, I would say her df2 is pretty close to it.
I wish I could win a match only doing ff2 and df2.
ff2 never hits for me😭
@@lukelewis3726you probably being too predictable with it just using it to get in
Law's f1+2 is his key move
As a Jack main, I can't tell you how many times I have spammed fc db1 at the wall to end rounds.
Next time MainMan, could you go into practice mode and swap between the characters there? So you can quickly show the moves :) You could explain while changing characters from there
No.
You know how tedious that would be?
Lol. Everyone who plays this game knows the what moved he's talking about lol.
yes!! more yt vids :)) especially MainManKazuya xD
Do you feel Leo is stronger than what is represented in the more recent tier lists? It seemed like it based on your reaction to the character and viable moves.
As a Miguel Main,
Sav2 is fantastic yes, but I think Sav, up-forward-3 is slightly better.
and it looks badass and gives a massive combo on ch. Love sav uf3
Its definately not, super linear, and some characters can backdash it even at -8
AK's CD1, ffn2 and ff3 are more important imo. His df1 is good but it's just a regular poke with no extensions/ch properties.
11:20
His cd1 is also pretty strong
You replied on viewer!?
Ok now that's progress:)
Kazumi while running 4 is pretty good.
Devil Jin I’d say df1 or laser cannon,
Kazuya twin pistons and Noctis I think it’s easy B2,1+2 if you saw CBM.
should get an editor to display move/ inputs
My favorite lei move is his ff3 launcher
Every Character's first 2 Best moves in my opinion:
Kuni set 2 & ff4,2
Ganryu df2 & df3
Zafina d3 & ff3
Julia ff1,4 & d,df1 series
Marduk Tackle & df1
Anna qcf1 & fc df2
Geese 2,f1 & b3,2max
Eliza d3 & divekick
Noctis df2 & db2
Armor King Dark Upper & ffn2
Negan df2 & b1+2
Leroy uf4 & d3,2
Fak 3+4 & bf4
Lidia ff2 & df2
Maven ff3 & iws2
Yoshi 1+4 & f1+2
Drag wr2 & d2
Hwo JFSR & d3,4
Law 3+4,4 & 4 series
Shaheen df1 & 4 series
Akuma d3 & ws2
Kaz EWGF & Hellsweep
Hei EWGF & f3
Kazumi df1,2 & 4
Lili ff3 & f4
Lars ff1+2 & df1
Jack ff1 & fc db1
Lee b4 & 4 series
Kuma ff2
Mig SAV 2 & SAV db3
Bob cd1 uf1+2 series
Bryan f3 & 3+4
King GS & df2,1
Steve b1 into Fliker & df2
Josie df4 & ws2,1
Kat 4 series
Jin f4 & EWHF
DJ EWFG & Hellsweep
Claudio b1 & ss4
Gigas d2 & 1,2
Asuka b3 & 1+2
Alisa b1 & ws4
Leo df2+3 & b1,4
Feng Kenpo 3 & db3
f22 for claudio?
@@BEDCORN Yes really good i12 punisher that gives Star burst, I also should have said f2 series f2,1 is -10 and ch conformable to f2,1,1+2 for like 45dmg
Actually, I forgot ss4, that's better
You skipped Xiao tho
@@callmeweizee My bad idk some characters that much, judging from the ones I fought I guess is Cali roll and db2, same and uf3 for Lucky Chloe, for Eddy ss3+4 & df3+4 and for Nina qcf1 and ws1,1+2. Idk how I forgot Paul: df2 and ss3
Let me fix Eliza :
Jumping 4 is untrue since her divekicks exists...
D3 is great for mixup in the corner but other than that not as good as akuma
FF2 is her best move
And for second I'd say just jumping back or divekick.
I really like FF4,2 too, hirconfirmable on hit, can use the ex version of dark wave for a frame trap etc... (tracking wise it's meh sadly tho so idk if we can consider it one of her best tools)
Honorable mention to ex dp tho 😂
Edit : Other than that I mostly agree with some few minor tweaks like Heihachi F3 over df1 and things like Gigas d2 replaced with f1+2 or ff2 or df1 💜 (ofc other examples are possible too but I mostly agree)
Not me waiting for his take on yoshi, already knowing what the character's best move is 🤡
d3 for Eliza? d3 is terrible, only because it's so inconsistent. It's nothing like Akuma's where he can seemingly clean hit from wherever. Eliza has to be right under your testes to get her clean hit. It's even questionable at the wall, especially on certain characters like Feng, who, for some awful reason, sometimes completely ignores her clean hit even when pinned against the wall, enabling him to block the follow-up and punish. Eliza players have been begging for d3 to be fixed since launch, only to silence from Bamco.
you can say its terrible, but its also the basis for her entire mix up and gameplan
Lee players be like
Id say her dive kick at the wall/
@@shazzy8679 which is not saying much, as it isn't a reliable gameplan
Tbh Eliza's best move is ff2
D3 is great for mixup but not as great imo
And divekick is an honorable mention
Jump back = honorable mention too
Thought i would actually get to see the moves. I dont know all moves by name or input..
I find the Leo one strange
could some one please tell me the mod or give me the link. where you wait for other players to match in the online lobby and stage changes.
ganryus df2 ironically has soooo much range problems but he relys on it more than other characters , its one of the few df2s in the game that cant punish alot of minus 16 moves , it use to have a bunch of range but they changed that in like season 3 or 4
Lars’s back one does alot for him. Safe, spammable, and on counter hit you can silent entry cancel into anymove you want
Kazuya's and Heihachi's 112 is sooo op. 10frame punish which even gives wall splat!
Jin's F4 is way tooo cheap and broken.
Paul's df2 and Deathfist(super spammable)
Bryan's Hachet taunt and ff2
Leroys f1+2 (Shotgun)
Akuma's D3 (Super cheap)
Yoshi's Flash
Steve's B1
Asuka's b3
Shaheen's Df2 D3 Ws1
id say up uf+1 for noctis, hella spammable, cant be whiff punished, hella safe on block, beats jabs and cant be parryed
I would say ff1+2, same mid tracking counter hit launcher.
For a top 3 i would probably say
1: ff1+2
2: df2
3:uf1
@@Donrickytheonlyone agree for the top three but personally
1. uf1
2. ff1+2
3. df2
Lars got basically nothing as a op move
Noctis’s best move is ff1+2 lol
Its really underrated. That and df2 are his best moves by far imo.
I think wr1+2, it's like demon upper but on steroids. Granted, not as easy to use.
If we saying about defining attacks, I think jfsr is a pick for Hwoarang. And also I have to say, that d3,4 shouldn't be in this game in this condition. It should does 50% less damage, or it shouldn't be a natural combo. I don't want to see this d3,4 and this backlash in Tekken 8. Please don't dumb down my character
Me being the only dragonuv main is ps4 hearing 18:25 😢 Knowing its true
Gigas has a best attack, how did Namco overlook that? Nerf Gigas for f sakes.
Jin is parry now but f4 used to be ridiculous
Great video but I really disagree on King it's gotta be Shove or df21
for kazumi it's not her 1 or df1 that are that good tbh, yes she uses them a lot,but they are not thar exceptional
her BEST move is for sure WR2. Fast, infinite range, mid, safe, pushback, resets neutral, knocks down, chunky damage, super hard to sidestep. She is not a character without that move tbh.
As a negan main why just recently got tgp one of his best and underrated key moves is db3 great low poke and busted counter hit mechanics
also d4 is an i12 low
No chapters for each char and no clips for the moves. Man
every character that isnt kazuya is op to tmm
Huge missed opportunity to not have gone into training mode and showcased the moves themselves, and just swap from character to character with "simple select".
40 minute video and critiques in comments 7 minutes of upload. Lmfaoooo
maybe cuz people skip to their mains/subs lol
No way is Giant Swing King's best move. The nerf to throws in Tekken 7 and then a further nerf in a previous season to the tech off the floor really weakened it. df2 is likely his best move,
This should have been top 3 moves.
Hwo main here. I’d say d+3,4
All the mains putting their moves in here lol
Well then I'll put up Alisa's actually best move: df4.
Parry won't be Jin's best move in T8 unfortunately. Too broken
As a Jin main, I don't mind parry being nerfed but they had no reason to remove zen cancel 😢
Did drag dirty
I think yoshi best move is his healing move. Just because he has that move he controls the entire pace of the match. He always gets to play his game regardless of character because he will just heal. He forces you to approach
guys im a main leo but im new so... what is Down+2+3 on controller :(?
if xbox, x+a. if PS, i think square+cross
Triangle and cross
Nina’s ss 1+2 is not broken. It’s relatively slow too when you factor in the ss frames and is really only effective from a ss1 as a tool to keep people from ducking and requires no execution. It’s not really effective as a keep out tool either. Db 2 is very good and has a case for being her strongest move, but it’s also slow. I’d say her df1, df1,2 (u/d extension) are her most useful moves along with her ss1 cancel pressure at a wall. They allow her to set up her pressure and keeps the opponent guessing as to what’s coming next.
He is talking about the ss1+2 followup up. Doing d2 makes it a launch but it is hard. I still dont agree with his pick tho, that move is -11(i think gigas can punish it) with pushback so you cant even pressure afterwards. I barely use that move. B22 or df1,2 are her best moves by far
@@er7776 d2,4 follow up is only possible on counter hit tho and to a specific side (ssr). It’s also not an easy pick up. B2,2 is also very good 👍
@@gordoredpb9 no man ive done both sides before it is possible. Ive also seen slide pick up from some ranges but i need to test it out more. Also it is possible without ch. Ive never seen that move look different on ch so i dont know why that would change anything
You forgot Lee and Alisa.
Miguel best move is SAV UF3.
For Anna side step 3 is best
D4 is Ak's best move...I'll fight anyone about it.
f f n 2
@@Nico-tz7ut nah... steppable, slightly reactable, -14 so a bit bad in some matchups and too plus for it's own good...definitely top 5 tho. That's my opinion.
d4 is an underrated move. Speed, tracking and high crush. It's like a better generic d4.
For chloe id say d2 before b4...b4 is punishable d2 is 0 on block cheers peeps.
There are many ways to counter marduk, I don't think his tackle is good. And on top of that, you can pressure the crap out of marduk and you wouldn't even have to deal with matchup knowledge. And razor rush is definitely NOT a good move, hopkick destroys most mixups including delaying because you can always jab or hopkick and once lei sidesteps a hopkick is almost always going to be a confirmed launch.
This video wasn't about how easily it is to counter a character or move. Tmm made the list assuming the move hits and what follows and options. Marduk tackle is really really good. Marduk has a 2/3 chance of hitting you and has set ups into tackle. I'm not a Marduk main at all but the tackle pressure is real
@@bluelion7342 If it's only based on what hits, lei's ff3 would be the greatest movie he has or maybe his drunken headbutt. With Marduk it would definitely be ff32 since the damage is super high.
In my opinion though tackle is too weak and all of the setups Marduk has are fake. Perfect god fist has a good video on some of them if you are interested 👍.
"I don't think tackle is good"
the only character with a 66% lose situation throwbreak and 50 damage. LMAOOOO
@@parry3439 I just explained how it wasn't good and that you could straight up avoid it or in some cases launch it.
I am going to disagree. I think tackle is without a doubt his best move. Of course there are ways to counter it otherwise it would be unstoppable but you forget you can set it up from a tech roll trap, your parry goes into it, throws go into it and you have the rd.
I am no lei main but I know for a fact razor rush is a good move. Every lei uses, every pro lei uses it. Ask any pro player and I guarantee that razor rush will come up. Whether razor rush is his best move, idk.
there is no way king's best move is giant swing. ff1 and b1 are way better and it's not even close.
DF2
Anna mains can't reach higher ranks without that spammable cheap low launcher
Hello
Lol…he hates Lei…
tl:dr df1 df2
Feng: b4
Wrong with Katarina... d/f 3+4 and then probably 4,4,4.. 1,1,2 and 3,3,3 are good too though.
josie gang!!!
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This man has 0 WINS on every character, how you can trust him
Its cause of the training mode