I hope they apply this treatment to most dungeons (if not all) and not just these 2. Their team clearly has great talent for it, preserving the feeling of the dungeon but turning it up a notch!
😂 it was you! I was racing you there (Livingtodie), and in the end there was a dude who seemed to figure out how not to wait for 3 seconds countdown and won every single race 😂 I wish they can make the music scroll an AOE effect so everyone can hear it…..
Holy crap. It's like someone read my mind and expanded the game like I thought they should from the beginning, rather than just tacking content on the end of the game. Whoever this is I love them.
You missed the hidden room and named rare mob in VC! When you first enter the dungeon, on the left side is rubble from the mine collapsing. But if you look to the far left of the rubble it's actually a small entrance to a small area filled with little rats and 1 other surprise. Love the attention to detail.
Shimmering flats races should be practice sessions, however once a week (like the fishing tournament ) there should be an oofficial race where spectators can bet on who’s going to win (great way to slow server inflation if u induce a 10% cut for the race host npc) . The weekly winner of the race should get a decent amount of gold as well and it would be cool if there could be like a pilot of the month that could win a special mount as well. Also I’d love to see if they make stv arena and fishing more special as well and give better rewards so people had incentive. Also just general outdoor town raiding / killing city bosses should give something special. Or a special buff that increases loot for your faction (like bosses have a change to drop 1 extra item ) There should be good
I believe if you clear the first boss of Deadmines and die, you can enter the instance and jump in to a minecart to get you back to where you were. I can't remember if it was only to the first boss room or further, thought you should really check it out too :D
The textures are the same btw, theyve increased the scale of the UV maps - so the texture repeats more often but the resolution outputs higher - they're the same rocks but with more UV space which is why they seem 'crisper'.
Thank you so much for talking about the pathing mobs!!!! Unfortunately, the pathing in the dungeon is happening because it's a custom dungeon and they could code it in. I have no idea why when they pull vanilla code they can't get pathing to work, but you are literally the first content creator who covers vanilla+ servers that have ever pointed it out...
Idk if you've heard of it but there's a new secret dungeon in the beta people found called "Glittermurk mines" it's lvl 40-45 hope you make a video of it.
oh that's ruff you couldnt find a grp for DM. when you encounter the tauren boss they'll shoot with canons at you from the ship, so cool! keep exploring mate trust me it's worth it! :)
it's just crazy to me to see how much content there should be in classic wow and how far Blizzard could've pushed it if they would listen to the community. I also share the same thoughts as you : '' if every private servers could work together and make one huge project '' This version of wow has so much to offer and the demand is there waiting for someone to cash in the money we are willing to pay to THIS ( an upgraded version of classic wow / vanilla + ) Blizzard is F sleeping on millions $ seriously
This seems like a server I could deff make as a new home. TWoW and Duskhaven deff have thier pros and cons but this...seems really really good. Everything feels fluid and like it deff belongs.
my friend asks me a doubt? I downloaded the full game on the website but I don't know why I'm not able to install any addon I know that the addons are from patch 3.3. character selection only has an addon called Blizzard- VehicleUI and it is in red. if you can help me i would be very grateful
Dude ive spent so much time on retail and classic looking at shimmering flats wishing we could get a racing mini game AMD THEY MAKE MARIO KART!? im speechless
no idea why the server didn't go with HD patch, also i had no in-game quest tracker, besides that it wasn't bad, but it felt like it lacked content that i was used to have.
@@ramencakes5196 exactly, i thought it was my problem, could be a bad file download, but i asked a random guy that was also leveling and he said he didn't had it either, so i assume they removed it, no idea why, as if leveling wasn't slow enough, still don't want to blame since no official server person said they did so could really be a bad download or just a beta thing.
@@Real_SkyRipper An in-game dev said it's removed and they have no plan on turning it back on. It's unfortunate because the other quest addon do not work either, and they confirmed via their Discord that there's nothing they can do. It's only beta and they already have a "set in stone" mentality, so guess we'll see how successfully they are with that. Wild how against a feature (that can manually be turned off by the user) they are.
9:03 as someone that during vanilla constantly went to Deadmines to help lower lvls do it yeah.... knew u weren't gonna be doing it at 30 lmao. Used to be able to kill people 50+ if someone pulled the whole room (foundry).
wasn't not expecting that, was expecting typical private server jank but this looks like its something that would've been done, theres quite a lot of thought that went into the design adn the larger scale of the caves more modern game design
Could also make it so, if you die in a dungeon it's 24h cooldown unless ressed, 1 run per dungeon per day, and all dungeons could have some rare items that can make new crafts, could use bindings of windseeker, sulfuras eye, atiesh parts and add some more so you could add those buffs to other items somehow, could make all items boe, and add more items to drop from bosses, but they could be items that can only be repaired like few times full and then they are used up, like limited items so ppl can get progress stuff easier and pvp gear, could make some new bg for rank 1 dudes to compete for legendary items like few per month
what would top the deadmines thing off is van cleefs daughter, vanessa somewhere in the dungeon. cause in the heroic version of deadmines in one of the expacs for retail you see memories of her in there when vancleef was killed back in classic
We never got to see the undead cosmetic racial. I went to rewatch it and we only saw the actual racials. No on death or place an item or transform a FP things?
I did v-rising on my other channel back when I thought I might use my other channel, and I enjoyed it! The reason I stopped using my other channel is because I don't upload stream vods, so the content I produce is something I actually think about, create, and then edit and make myself, so they take time. As a result, uploading on a second channel where youtube's algorithm won't push my content just won't work UNLESS I can spam you guys with massive amounts of content, which I can't as I described. Maybe I should try v-rising here again?
@@Mcdoubles v-risings a lot of fun imo it just lacks playerbase in U.S. area its popular in brazil it seems. it has an update coming out in may so if theres any buzz around the game it would prolly be around than. the update will add another area and change combat a bit so it could be an improvement.
Graveyard running isn't supposed to be fun. It's supposed to make it more tense while you're still alive! The whole "just remove this little part" of the game is how we ended up with retail WoW.
I find graveyard running to be an obsolete relic of the distant past, and it should stay there. it adds nothing to the game except artificially extending your gameplay session by a few minutes.
That is very cool, something I find very frustrating playing all the old dungeons is how cramped they are. Your constantly fighting your camera in the stocks, sfk, hallways etc.
You totally cheated in the race, I hope they make it so if you cut the course (like you kept doing) you get a 10 second stun. With each time you cut the course being an even longer stun!! WC and Deadmines do look really cool!
it looks realy good, i just hop the doungens are not a cakewalk that would destroy the atmosphere for me i realy like the challange of a doungen compare with cool looking lore aspects
COuld add resistances to cloth and shaman mail, and maybe some extra evade to hunter, rogue leather and resistances to druid leather and evade to bear form, i thought it would be cool if casters dont need mana for spells, and you could do empowered spells with mana instead, so you could do regular stuff and even melee without mana with casters, i dont think its nice that mana can run out, would also be nice if you could power up gun/bow shoots and frost/fire bolts by casting it longer than it's cast time is, like if you casted frostbolt for 1 sec, thats half the cast time, it would be weaker bolt, like 2.3 sec would be strongger frostbolt, 3-5 greater frostbolt and it could add some freeze time and increased crit, for fireball would be some dot
The processing of those dungeons looks amazing (at least according to the video) and the racial ones are also nice (the racial ones annoy me on Ascension because you can take anything but the race is determined I like to play Tauren but 5% base HP is a fart and stun with cast = the enemy can run away, and I prefer to play heal or tank and for tank night elf +2% dodge or human +3% spirit(heal) :D it's not much but even 1% can decide :D )(I wrote suggestions on the forum that would reduced old characters with a reward for one other character in the form of modification/LVL up/learning racials but no one liked it :( )(before they put rarities on abilities, I had a 2.5k int mana tank (Tauren) but if I had a Gnome so i would have 2.6k approx int (+-50k mana))
patrols/waypoints are so easy to set up, honestly most private server creators are so fucking lazy, it's nice to see that servers with alot of dedicated hard work are becoming popular as opposed to rehashed dogshit that obscured all the unique server back in the day
BLizzard is missing a major opportunity in not capitalizing on this. They did classic no changes for the most part. People love classic. Revamp the exterior but keep the bones. Upgrade the dungeons upgrade the raids, keep the world, the quests, the classes exactly the same.
only bad thing about Epoach wow tho. we need to pay their Devs enough to work on this full time !!!!!!!!!!!! We need it to be release yesterday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should have to run back still. If it’s just respawning at the start of the instance it begins to feel less like a death, less immersive, all that stuff. I think making things easier or quicker isn’t always the best course of actions in games
I hope they apply this treatment to most dungeons (if not all) and not just these 2. Their team clearly has great talent for it, preserving the feeling of the dungeon but turning it up a notch!
You always upload when I’m putting my youngest down for a nap. It’s perfection.
Glad I can be of assistance friend, hope you enjoy it
This is actually mindblowing!
It's 100% how a re-imagined deadmines would look like!
😂 it was you! I was racing you there (Livingtodie), and in the end there was a dude who seemed to figure out how not to wait for 3 seconds countdown and won every single race 😂 I wish they can make the music scroll an AOE effect so everyone can hear it…..
I wasn't expecting much but this has genuinely made me excited for the future of this project.
Holy crap. It's like someone read my mind and expanded the game like I thought they should from the beginning, rather than just tacking content on the end of the game. Whoever this is I love them.
I feel like whoever is doing the work on this stuff has actual experience with video games.
Damn... I've no words.. this looks proffessionally done, what the hell
You missed the hidden room and named rare mob in VC! When you first enter the dungeon, on the left side is rubble from the mine collapsing. But if you look to the far left of the rubble it's actually a small entrance to a small area filled with little rats and 1 other surprise. Love the attention to detail.
Does he drop anything good?
Shimmering flats races should be practice sessions, however once a week (like the fishing tournament ) there should be an oofficial race where spectators can bet on who’s going to win (great way to slow server inflation if u induce a 10% cut for the race host npc) .
The weekly winner of the race should get a decent amount of gold as well and it would be cool if there could be like a pilot of the month that could win a special mount as well.
Also I’d love to see if they make stv arena and fishing more special as well and give better rewards so people had incentive.
Also just general outdoor town raiding / killing city bosses should give something special. Or a special buff that increases loot for your faction (like bosses have a change to drop 1 extra item )
There should be good
I believe if you clear the first boss of Deadmines and die, you can enter the instance and jump in to a minecart to get you back to where you were. I can't remember if it was only to the first boss room or further, thought you should really check it out too :D
imma keep it real, those oblivious vids are fucking bangers, glad to see some other content, I hope it does good, I wanna see more.
The textures are the same btw, theyve increased the scale of the UV maps - so the texture repeats more often but the resolution outputs higher - they're the same rocks but with more UV space which is why they seem 'crisper'.
holy damn, comparing this effort to the "open dungeon "design"" twow has its like a teenager vs professional !
oblivion playthru is so sick fun to watch friend
Wow! yeah this deadmines looks really cool! Major improvements! I feel like this is how one should do Classic Plus .
This is so cool. I love custom content and remakes like those you can see on Epsilon WoW, but this is on another level
I downloaded this when the beta was closed lol. Can't wait for the release. They have out done themselves with the dungeon revamps. Amazing!
Thank you so much for talking about the pathing mobs!!!! Unfortunately, the pathing in the dungeon is happening because it's a custom dungeon and they could code it in. I have no idea why when they pull vanilla code they can't get pathing to work, but you are literally the first content creator who covers vanilla+ servers that have ever pointed it out...
Remaking dungeons this well is gonna land this guy a job lol
Idk if you've heard of it but there's a new secret dungeon in the beta people found called "Glittermurk mines" it's lvl 40-45 hope you make a video of it.
this looks so freaking cool I'm definitely gonna have to try this server out
oh that's ruff you couldnt find a grp for DM. when you encounter the tauren boss they'll shoot with canons at you from the ship, so cool! keep exploring mate trust me it's worth it! :)
I'm really enjoying your content lately. Keep it up !
A new day a new Mc D video. Made MY day atleast, thanks buddy.
it's just crazy to me to see how much content there should be in classic wow and how far Blizzard could've pushed it if they would listen to the community. I also share the same thoughts as you : '' if every private servers could work together and make one huge project ''
This version of wow has so much to offer and the demand is there waiting for someone to cash in the money we are willing to pay to THIS ( an upgraded version of classic wow / vanilla + )
Blizzard is F sleeping on millions $ seriously
wow thats insane, like that looks AMAZING
Not only is that "mario kart" but those are pod racers from Star Wars lmfao xD
This is so sick! I LOVE IT!
This seems like a server I could deff make as a new home. TWoW and Duskhaven deff have thier pros and cons but this...seems really really good. Everything feels fluid and like it deff belongs.
I found epoch from your vid and so looking forward to that server going live im in the beta messing around cant wait for it
That's so insane, I would love a remade classic with new looks to the dungeons
I think a 10 man raid option for this in the end game would be so much fun
Epoch is really on another level when it comes to + content. ive tried most of the private servers out there and nothing comes close to this one
Would be cool if they added a giant squid or something in the water under the boat!
This is incredible! I cant wait to play it!
Looks like this is the pve experience we've been looking for.
my friend asks me a doubt? I downloaded the full game on the website but I don't know why I'm not able to install any addon I know that the addons are from patch 3.3. character selection only has an addon called Blizzard- VehicleUI and it is in red. if you can help me i would be very grateful
Dude ive spent so much time on retail and classic looking at shimmering flats wishing we could get a racing mini game AMD THEY MAKE MARIO KART!? im speechless
the oblivion music is sooo goood.
no idea why the server didn't go with HD patch, also i had no in-game quest tracker, besides that it wasn't bad, but it felt like it lacked content that i was used to have.
That's crazy because they are in a wotlk client I think and wrath had built in quest helper
@@ramencakes5196 exactly, i thought it was my problem, could be a bad file download, but i asked a random guy that was also leveling and he said he didn't had it either, so i assume they removed it, no idea why, as if leveling wasn't slow enough, still don't want to blame since no official server person said they did so could really be a bad download or just a beta thing.
@@Real_SkyRipper An in-game dev said it's removed and they have no plan on turning it back on. It's unfortunate because the other quest addon do not work either, and they confirmed via their Discord that there's nothing they can do. It's only beta and they already have a "set in stone" mentality, so guess we'll see how successfully they are with that. Wild how against a feature (that can manually be turned off by the user) they are.
@@RealDeadPoint changes are good unless I don't like them
@@platinumpepe8626 I see your comment is full of insight. What positive comes from this type of change?
They've done great work on DM! its looks fantasitc
The cart idea is badass
well done! true vanilla+! aaaaaaaaa
You were wondering about the graphics, check the caves near howling fjord and the pillars there. May be pretty close.
Deadmines looks incredible. I hope I can play ok all th way over here in New Zealand.
And I thought the WC was amazingly done but holy cow this looks so good as well!!!
When this is our, will play it, looks good
As always, I see a Mcdoubles video, I click - easy GG
9:03 as someone that during vanilla constantly went to Deadmines to help lower lvls do it yeah.... knew u weren't gonna be doing it at 30 lmao. Used to be able to kill people 50+ if someone pulled the whole room (foundry).
wasn't not expecting that, was expecting typical private server jank
but this looks like its something that would've been done, theres quite a lot of thought that went into the design adn the larger scale of the caves more modern game design
Exactly, Epoch is actually coming out of the gate with a level of quality that isn't often seen in the scene
That really is a nice DM remake.
Could also make it so, if you die in a dungeon it's 24h cooldown unless ressed, 1 run per dungeon per day, and all dungeons could have some rare items that can make new crafts, could use bindings of windseeker, sulfuras eye, atiesh parts and add some more so you could add those buffs to other items somehow, could make all items boe, and add more items to drop from bosses, but they could be items that can only be repaired like few times full and then they are used up, like limited items so ppl can get progress stuff easier and pvp gear, could make some new bg for rank 1 dudes to compete for legendary items like few per month
what would top the deadmines thing off is van cleefs daughter, vanessa somewhere in the dungeon. cause in the heroic version of deadmines in one of the expacs for retail you see memories of her in there when vancleef was killed back in classic
Vanilla plus really should be "the base game. Plus custom shit that's fun" at the end of the day.
19:00 skeleton under the dock lol
We never got to see the undead cosmetic racial. I went to rewatch it and we only saw the actual racials. No on death or place an item or transform a FP things?
i like what you said at the start about trying to branch out. have you tried any pvp survival games like rust or v-rising? they can be alot of fun.
I did v-rising on my other channel back when I thought I might use my other channel, and I enjoyed it! The reason I stopped using my other channel is because I don't upload stream vods, so the content I produce is something I actually think about, create, and then edit and make myself, so they take time. As a result, uploading on a second channel where youtube's algorithm won't push my content just won't work UNLESS I can spam you guys with massive amounts of content, which I can't as I described. Maybe I should try v-rising here again?
@@Mcdoubles v-risings a lot of fun imo it just lacks playerbase in U.S. area its popular in brazil it seems. it has an update coming out in may so if theres any buzz around the game it would prolly be around than. the update will add another area and change combat a bit so it could be an improvement.
I love those carts they need to add more
Graveyard running isn't supposed to be fun. It's supposed to make it more tense while you're still alive! The whole "just remove this little part" of the game is how we ended up with retail WoW.
I find graveyard running to be an obsolete relic of the distant past, and it should stay there. it adds nothing to the game except artificially extending your gameplay session by a few minutes.
@@Shiirow it adds a death punishment, which makes you value your life a bit more
For success and rewards to mean anything failure and punishment needs to exist.
it would be cool if you could see the huge deadmines gate from outside the dungeon
i mean it has to connect to the ocean somehow right ?
it does you can see it from the outside, follow the coast from westfall to STV and you will spot it.
Amazing!
wow the deadmines looks SOOO NICE! the ship is hella nice. @mcdoubles are they gonna custom more dungeons like BRD?! or strath,?!?1 we need answers!!!
I have seen those Deadmines somewhere before .... cant remember where exactly
That is very cool, something I find very frustrating playing all the old dungeons is how cramped they are. Your constantly fighting your camera in the stocks, sfk, hallways etc.
I think the long spirit walks adds to the experience with classic wow. There’s always positives and negatives to certain qol changes.
looks like a mine, amazing
You totally cheated in the race, I hope they make it so if you cut the course (like you kept doing) you get a 10 second stun. With each time you cut the course being an even longer stun!!
WC and Deadmines do look really cool!
it looks realy good, i just hop the doungens are not a cakewalk that would destroy the atmosphere for me i realy like the challange of a doungen compare with cool looking lore aspects
COuld add resistances to cloth and shaman mail, and maybe some extra evade to hunter, rogue leather and resistances to druid leather and evade to bear form, i thought it would be cool if casters dont need mana for spells, and you could do empowered spells with mana instead, so you could do regular stuff and even melee without mana with casters, i dont think its nice that mana can run out, would also be nice if you could power up gun/bow shoots and frost/fire bolts by casting it longer than it's cast time is, like if you casted frostbolt for 1 sec, thats half the cast time, it would be weaker bolt, like 2.3 sec would be strongger frostbolt, 3-5 greater frostbolt and it could add some freeze time and increased crit, for fireball would be some dot
Bro because of you i restarted oblivion on my xbox
If you make videos for Epoch's third beta, can you make a Dwarf Shaman?
The mario kart race really should have an out of bounds. It's very easy to cheese it and skip a lot of the track to get ahead.
i notice the world upscaleing compared to WC looks soooo much better
I agree a hundred percent about the just getting on and playing remember f****** what's that one called remember instant 80 realms
The mine tracks are LORE friendly? xD
Yes.
What would you recommend right now? Turtle wow or classic +?
This server should be explode when released. its amazing indeed
is the button repeatable? Like, can you press it several times to get more money? Just asking for a friend
they remade deadline way better then whale carven
curious, i've never seen a "not sponsored" tag in your ascension videos..
Yeah I'm not sponsored by them either. I quit putting that stuff in my videos because it was just me repeating the obvious. Nobody gives me money.
@@Mcdoubles I'll take your word for it. Good videos regardless.
The processing of those dungeons looks amazing (at least according to the video) and the racial ones are also nice (the racial ones annoy me on Ascension because you can take anything but the race is determined I like to play Tauren but 5% base HP is a fart and stun with cast = the enemy can run away, and I prefer to play heal or tank and for tank night elf +2% dodge or human +3% spirit(heal) :D it's not much but even 1% can decide :D )(I wrote suggestions on the forum that would reduced old characters with a reward for one other character in the form of modification/LVL up/learning racials but no one liked it :( )(before they put rarities on abilities, I had a 2.5k int mana tank (Tauren) but if I had a Gnome so i would have 2.6k approx int (+-50k mana))
this is what vanilla plus should be, you can tell blizzard did the bare minimum with theirs
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I really need that cash so I would push the button.
Nice!
There any reward for playing during the open beta once the servers fully released?
Yeah if you complete two out three beta 2 achievements you'll get an exclusive pet that'll stay with your account at launch.
patrols/waypoints are so easy to set up, honestly most private server creators are so fucking lazy, it's nice to see that servers with alot of dedicated hard work are becoming popular as opposed to rehashed dogshit that obscured all the unique server back in the day
im currently playing hc at turtle and wotlk on classic but god damn ill try this shit out, these privates are doing way better job than blizzard
BLizzard is missing a major opportunity in not capitalizing on this. They did classic no changes for the most part. People love classic. Revamp the exterior but keep the bones. Upgrade the dungeons upgrade the raids, keep the world, the quests, the classes exactly the same.
only bad thing about Epoach wow tho. we need to pay their Devs enough to work on this full time !!!!!!!!!!!! We need it to be release yesterday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so good
Am I able to join if I have you tube prem? I can’t find a join button.
I think you should have to run back still. If it’s just respawning at the start of the instance it begins to feel less like a death, less immersive, all that stuff. I think making things easier or quicker isn’t always the best course of actions in games
This is what I wanted from classic WoW, instead of the cheesy cash grab blizzard did instead.
so i know the "treant" discussion is dead but... can we start the "gyrocopter" discussion now?
all my homies hate people who say "jyro-copter"
@@Mcdoubles naaah bro, i cut you some slack with treant, but on this one youre just wrong, and this IS a hill i am willing to die on
fun fact: that's just retail night elf passive
I'd press the button
Can i play this now or do I have to wait?
You can play it's open beta for 1 month
Can Blizzard please hire these guys and just make classic+ already ?