The War Of Xen - An End To This Story
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
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Its just so sad that all the cool maps and guns are lost forever.
Never say Never man.
@@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn dont give me hope.
@@Sigmachode905 hope is a dangerous thing
@@AustinDallasPictures the last. Hope
"The first, bitter taste of that terrible illusion: hope"
the mod honestly looks very beautiful and amazing,it even look like the creator of this mod did a little bit of modifications for the goldsrc engine so it can run this amount of details or he used a different engine
it was running on a goldsrc source port called Spirit of Half-Life
Man, it looks so good. I wanna play it so badly, and the fact that it was at one point up but is forever lost now just breaks my heart.
never say never
Probably just moved on due to burnout. Which sucks, but it is what it is and I fully understand. Maybe he just didn't want to do it anymore. Man do I at least enjoy what content he did give us because HOLY SHIT did this mod look ambitious as hell and bring a lot of unique ideas that Valve would probably gush with envy at back in the day.
I swear Half-life modders suffer from burnout more than any other game modders, like no joke they'll work on mod for specifically 3-6 months and then suddenly just cancel the mod without releasing any files for the most vague reasons or just no explanation and just silently dying off. It's an anomaly
@@unoriginalperson72 the end notation make it feel like he lost the server/files for the mod project probably also after fighting whit the limits of GoldSource for some time.
@@unoriginalperson72 that happened to me with a 3 map wad I made for doom lol, main reason, I experienced a breakup and was kicked out of a friend group
@@unoriginalperson72 it was essentially my first wad
@@unoriginalperson72is not only half life modders, is every guy who does a work alone, this is why i don't hype up anymore with standalone projects
While the story is nothing to write home about, the engineering prowess shown with the NPCs converting into the Rupture enemies and the level of detail in the mapping are unprecedented for the early '00s of GoldSrc modding.
Name a single mod of that era and they might have great mapping _or_ custom-built functionality but something of this complexity would usually be down to an entire team of modders.
Witnessing raw talent like this from an individual is never anything short of fascinating.
Closest I can think of is Poke646.
To echo what Pietrekder said to me Radiation Hazard: he is definitely back to working on the mod. It's important to note, though, that he is one individual working on the mod, not multiple people. The mod will be released eventually, it'll just take some time until the mod is released, perhaps at some point this year, if not any time soon. I did also manage to send him another email message this month, but I will need to be patient and waiting for the time being.
However, speaking of prototype versions being mentioned, if you would really like to get some other amazing candy, I did manage to archive and preserve both the unused content and certain prototype versions of PARANOIA, as well as WIP videos, images, and music. While I haven't archived the 2003, 2004, 2005, certain 2006 builds, and as well as the early iterations of the 2007 build unfortunately, both the weapon test builds, and the episode 1 to 2 prototype builds, are the ones preserved. BASYIK has the aforementioned prototypes that I didn't archive, though once he's finished with the PARANOIA Garry's Mod addon he's working on, as well as PARANOIA Isolated, he will eventually release them elsewhere. You could even make a video(s) based on what I had recovered in terms of the PARANOIA WIP stuff. :)
one like wtf? this changes everything!
Honestly I'd say make a video on this if you can. This stuff seems quite amazing!
Thats great to hear
@@TheAlfieReal Hopefully he does though, because I haven't been getting any contact from him this point forward.
I'm guessing he is trying to port it to the Source engine according to the video annotation
the fact that The War of Xen is (probably) lost forever just makes it way more interesting. If the videos just had a download link none of this research would have been done, and it would have been forgotten. This kind of obscure goldsource/source content is fascinating, the less you know, the better. This two engines are so charming
Time for creepypasta
great dark and griddy music in the background
griddy
I vaguely remember of someone asking to port the War of Xen animations to CSCZ in some CS message board back in 2010. I’m pretty sure the guy provided a download link that has the War of Xen files, but I highly doubt the link is still working after 10 years.
Great to know how it ended. Surely, if he decides to create something new in source, it will be amazing. Cheers RH!!
oof, the fact that it was available at some point but wasn't archived sucks. Hopefully someone may still have it on an old hard drive somewhere.
Man, first lost media in the HL community? I hope someone did manage to download this mod back then and still has it. It's such a great mod, it can't just... disappear 🥺
He never released it... Did he?
It never released, don't make up things you liar
Similar situation to hl rally mappack addon, i found a snapshot from 2009, but it requires moddb acc, i have one, but i couldnt log in
@@ajxx9987 He only released a demo. But it's still something
I wonder if one can make a Restoration Project for this abandoned Half-Life mod.
If finished, this would be the Entropy Zero 2 of Half Life 1 mods
The notepad file in 1:08 is dated 7th November 2022 13:43. So it's not that old. If it's true, that Piotr started to revive this mod a year before the note, than this is not the end to this story. It's "To be continued"
Plot twist: Piotr saw radhaz's video his and is now trying to revive the mod
@@unoriginalperson72 you never know
*Yes - Roundabout starts playing*
Any news?
I have the feeling that this isn't the end of the story... Someone has to have that demo file somewhere! And I'm sure at some point we'll hear a response from the dev.
@Pinkerton national detective agency do you have a Google doc you could link? Or some other kind of backup?
@pinkertonnationaldetective9800 please upload that.
@Pinkerton national detective agency upload the demo then bruh
@pinkertonnationaldetective9800 Upload the demo or you're lying
@pinkertonnationaldetective9800 You could still upload everything else then, just for archival purposes
It's sad that he thought Goldsource was too old. Half Life Echoes came out in 2018, looks amazing, and entirely uses the original engine. He underestimated the charm that Goldsource has.
Tracing back the steps of some ancient project like this always feels like modern archeology :D
I don't know why, but the amount of detail in the mod and the overall feeling gives me huge Portal Reprecussions vibes
damn. thats sad. im doing a mod too. i hope i'll never leave the work of my life no matter how outdated it is.
I hope development goes well!
@@Nahobussyino thankyou
@@blast4ce your welcome
Well, if you do (because life happens regardless), be sure to at least open-source what you have. Lot of mods in the past 2 decades are lost to time and screenshots because the creator simply chose not to release their existing material to the public.
@@provenancemachining yea i will pretty soon
Someone out there probably still has the files, we just have to find them to restore that demo
One interesting thing to know About one of the enemies, Is that the trite spider Is actually from Doom 3.
The hybrids are also from System Shock 2.
6:17 Neat seeing someone use System Shock 2 enemies in their mod
You can tell its an old HL mod because of asset ripped monsters
I remember working on a submarine for Half Life 2 as a fan project back in 2005 or so, even though the map was finished, the scripting was nearly done, there some bugs but I was so bored of it and when I got an entirely new PC I never went back to get it back - I put a lot of time and effort into it, I was working on it for a few years (not everyday - whenever I felt for it) and it became less and less more tired I get.
As with this, it is a shame that it never came out but I can definitely understand that you get tired and burned out, you lose interest or new things happens in your life.
doy ou still have those files on that old computer?
@@gordonfreeman2634 Nope. I have changed PCs a number of times since then. It was back in 2005 or so, it was a long time ago.
Another creativity created to one of a kind Father-of-(Half-)Life.
The Cascade could’ve been different…
the "Hybrid" enemies are from System Shock 2
Wow this was one hell of an ambitious mod, even more so when you look at it being from the mid 2000s. I'd love it if the dev could learn about this series and perhaps we could get an interview to hear about what the project would have been like and also what else he was working on, such as the source project which we know nothing about. I would be very curious if he's still mapping or even still in the hl community somewhere.
3:44 And it's got a dual mag setup too! Supremely Based.
3:57 This man was doing Retail quality... God, what happened to him?
4:03 This guy isn't a simple mapper at this level of quality... He's closer to a Level Designer.
4:38 Oh hey, Uzis. I think those are full size ones too!
4:54 It's at least some form of closure, I just wish we got some closure for the story of CVB-44 over on Spacebattles but I digress.
5:12 It's got what appears to be a milled receiver based off that groove by the magazine well so it seems to be a milled AK. I can't really tell if it's a 47 or 74 though, someone else with more knowledge than I would have to chime in.
most the weapon models are from cs condition zero and cs 1.6
Modders from Eastern Europe are black magic, I don't know what else to say
The anonymous “Matthew” here. I’m glad I was able to help add a little more to the story.
You skipped over the part where the youtube commenter said Peter was trying to revive the mod 💀
I'm sure at the time rad recorded this video that comment hadn't been made yet because fun fact videos are not made the same day they're uploaded
@@unoriginalperson72 That makes no sense as the text file is a... text file.
You can even see the mouse going over the file!! This is very clearly an unscripted video. (or at least mostly unscripted)
Let's hope that the lost art could be restored.
Edit:is there a page in wayback machine that cached a working war of xen copy? I think it could be a life saver
I don't think wayback machine download links work
My mistake, but I wonder if there's an archive for the mod
To be on the safe side also, I am planning to do a mod similar to Half-Life: The War of Xen, but instead of having a specific story line, to which the mod might have, is instead more of a crossover/semi-sandbox hybrid mod, and it will also include weapons, items, and NPCs from other game titles, like the Thing Imitators seen in the mod. I would also go so far as to add original NPCs as well, and better yet, the mod will be an open source mod project, where anyone is more than happy to make up source codes of crossover/original enemies into the pile. The mod will also come with New BSPGuy as well if the maps can be edited in any way the gamer sees fit. The mod project's source codes will be posted on Github, though I cannot make any promises it will be put up anytime soon. Still working with other things right now. But we'll see.
When you've shown the HL2-pulled \ inspired crabs, it confirmed I've played this mod, after initial "oh, that name rings a bell". And I remember using it's custom guns, too.
I see that at one point in the vid you're showing news text in Polish and I remember the mod being promoted as one of the best Polish works in the gold era GoldSrc days.
So I would say that yeah, there was an actual release. And it was a REALLY good mod, one of the best GoldSrc ones. Sadly, mod went bye-bye with my old PC (like, 4 PC's ago).
Friend sent me here, REALLY glad to see ANYTHING on this mod, that transformation mechanic was interesting and maybe even ahead of its time
That scientist shifting animation is the stuff of nightmares. Its some fetish kinda shit
Looks quite interesting, I recall saw these videos long time ago, but it was already dead then, it is understandable that is possible to just lost interest in modding, it is a bit of shame that authors of dead mods not always release stuff when they abandon mods, so someone else might use bits of content into own mods, and stuff which already made won't be just lost in vain, I quite interested how he made Rupture enemy, especially how he animated it.
Someone has to have this on an old hard drive sitting around
why do so many amazing mods never get released/ get abandoned and left on a cliffanger
tho i hope some modders will try to recreate the mod
People have lives, they typically mod as a hobby and they get to busy to finish
Why don't they just upload what they have so someone else can finish it, or at least people can check out the assets like what happened with VANCE? There's no reason to hide away the files of a mod you have zero intention of working on.
@@slimcurry7117 yeah, but just dissapeering all of the sudden without saying anything is kinda not cool at all for everyone waiting for the mods
@@mrscruffles801 i mean technically for this mod, we had the demo
But the file is unfortunately gone :(
@@GarryTale What happened to it?
Finally, we solved it!
Half Life: Induction
This and they hunger lost souls are few of the unfortunate mods that shows promise that never came to fruition.
Oh yes deep lore
That is some obscure mod that will never see the light due to the author moving on. Life happens and you have other priorities. Fair enough.
I feel like this mod would've been huge. Like larger than Half-Life 2 + the episodes combined.
Its a shame that we'll never get to know, but its still cool that we have it archived to look back at. A look at what might have been.
A couple of screenshots and some video with some new areas and enemies/weapons = larger than basically two entire games made by an full development studio
I really feel like this is very wishful thinking. Maybe dream a little smaller.
It's an impressive work for GoldSRC, but not that impressive. Still sad that it didn't saw the light of day
@@stevelarry3870 I just feel like a title such as "The War of Xen" the finished product would be huge. But yeah I am being kinda over wishful.
I dont remember any source mods created by someone how is Polish, or at least not any relevant/popular ones. So to see a mod that impressive, being made by a guy who is of the same nationality as me is very inspiring and makes my dumb patriotic brain go hapy. I would love to hope for someone to suddenly wake up after all this time with the files of the mod, or something like the creator coming back to share the full story of this mod, but lets be realistic thats just not going to happened :/
dont get your hopes up kids and you'll never be disappointed! (or something idk i slept only 6h and im tired)
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The Hybrid NPCs are enemies from System Shock 2.
I really love how he builds these maps, it's just just a box there are much more different angle to the room
I could have sworn I had a copy of this back in the day... It seems so familiar... It might have been on either my old 2001 desktop PC... Or an old external Seagate hard drive.. Which may still exist. Unfortunately, the external hard drive overheats and would crash after a few minutes of heavy use (such as copying files). Both devices are probably buried in an unmarked storage crate, in an attic crawl space. The 2001 PC also had problems, I don't even have an external monitor to plug it into any more if I could find it. Ironically, the reason why I didn't dispose of these two old hard drives well because it was too difficult and frustrating to make sure I can have some long-lost photographs or files on them. 😳
7:04 It's literally Russian Spetsnaz in Black Mesa
And one more of the screenshots can be found AK-47 and Russian UAZ
And as for the Russian Spetsnaz, it is still unknown for the fact that the picture was not hung there
i like to imagine that he finished the mod but forgot to upload it and just never looked back
The "Hybrid Pipe" enemy is taken from System Shock 2. It seems that the 3d model was directly ripped from the game.
Man this mod looks insane. Such a shame it never came out, well, at least not long enough for it to be saved.
never lose hope we can maybe someday get our hands on this mod
I really like the atmosphere of the mod from the screenshots. It’s like a darker, grimier, grittier version of half life.
7:54 we were on the edge of glory :c
5:15 the AK is from counter strike condition zero, and judging by the positionaning of the viewmodel, it's from the deleted scenes version of cs cz. Would be interesting to know, where we would get that weapon in the mod...
This is the mod's maps i would definitely imagine to have a Gargantua storming through the whole facility in.
Thank you for your efforts!
3:20 that's an mini UZI and at 5:11 that's an AK 47
Rad you've been spoiling us this month. Don't forget to take care of yourself! 🤘
the absolute legend used the HD models and yet took the time to create and HD glock instead of using the Beretta
as a polish person i must say OORAHHHHH LONG LIVE POLAND !!!!!! 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱
I found someone using the same handle on 2 Polish car forums, the latest post i could find is from 2021 (and few old posts on coding forums)
4:40 duel kiparis: extremely based. (Four years before black ops introduced them.)
Listen.
This is the HALF-LIFE community.
There is a non-zero chance that one of us will take on the task of restoring this whole thing as best we can.
This is the community that is borderline obsessed with preserving videogame Beta history and uncovering/remaking it, weeping for everything that COULD have been that we still don't know about.
Thanks for following through Rad! Now I can sleep at night again.
My heart feels…nothing…i literally dont feel anything just sadness
5:56 i can 100% guess that UAZ is from Arma CWA
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5:10
I got you homie. That is an AK-47, because, well its a gun from CS and in that its a 47', but for more detail: its not an AKM because if it was there'd be this little thing on the barrel called a compensator or muzzle brake (i forgot despite being an AK enjoyer) to reduce recoil, and it cant be a 74 because the 74 has an orange magazine.
What a twist about him just getting on. Who could've expected?
The war ends
what a mod man, LMAO
i remember seeing videos of this mod a very long time ago, sad to see it not finished
It’s a shame, it could’ve been the next Half Life:Decay before decay was even made! But atleast we have something to remember it.
Though it's unfortunate the mod will never see the light of day, I'm not sad about it, I'm actually kinda satisfied after seeing these additional screenshots. Great coverage as always sir.
Instead of a forgotten mod, what would you think is a pretty forgettable Half-Life mod?
That would probably be Red Mesa.
Half life retribution
Half Life Before
Its a shame this never saw the light of day, it would have blown people's minds.
As a Polish person this made me very proud. The fact a person could make such a mod just for it to fall into obscurity is really sad. Hope someone can restore the file or ask Piotrek to reupload it, even in its damaged "level crashes the game" state. Someone could probably fix it.
It’s very important for modders to know when to quit. I’m glad he didn’t burn himself out trying to finish his project. I had to do the exact same thing for a mod I was working on for two years on black mesa. Sometimes what you make while modding can end up being a burden to your actual life.
This channel has grown on me
That mp5k seemed very dark and gritty.
Bring back the old intro music
To think that he just gave up and abandoned the whole thing, never to be played by anyone…
“There’s a definite kind of polish here that we don’t see in a lot of mods”
no joke, that’s where the developer is from :p
I didn't get it for a second but then I reread it lol
We can only hope someone has an old PC full of half life mods sitting waiting to be discovered.. even then will they know that they have anything special? It's unfortunate
Trite was from Doom 3
Why the hell was he going to include the hybrids from System Shock 2?
One day he will come back
i would love to see a mod on an alternate universe where BMRF was never nuked, including the combine and the original half-life 1 xen creatures
7:26
just as im!
This lost massive War of Xen mod reminded me of that one also lost massive MP HL1 mod that was like a mix between TF1/CS with added heavy cinematic gunfighting and pseudo -realism like needing to actully bandage bleeding wounds. Damn, I forgot the name of the mod...
I know what mod you're talking about, I don't think that one is lost I'm pretty sure everyone has just forgotten about it
Damn, that stings...
I commented on the previous video but I swear I saw this mod in the past. I wonder if it was talked about on some polish half life forums that I used to frequent back then, since this mod is apparently polish. I dont know how else I would know of it. The fast half life 2 zombie in gold source engine and that falling bending steel beam is very firmly etheched in myemory for some reason
The gun is ak47. The model is taken from cscz
All gone... reduced to atoms
Interesting thing to note is that the trite enemy is from doom 3
I'm just sad. But maybe he made a good source mod.
im sad the war of xen would have been so good
I hope the he still has the mod files
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