I think recent events have blown that theory to smithereens. In Olympic boxing you have what was for most of human history considered a woman, but because of her chromosomes her identity has very recently (in the last 20 - 30 years) been called into question. That is an absolute tapestry of complexity.
It's so embarrassing to hear these men repeatedly say "she." If "she" was accurate then it wouldn't be a controversy to be in women's sports in the first place.
agreed, that bothers me too. This little segment is saying how unfair for these 'men' to pretend to be woman to get to play with women and beat the women....but then they call these men 'her' she'. WRONG. These fakers are MEN. MEN 'he' 'him'
This isn't the 1800s, science has made things a little more complicated. For example, did you know that the body and the Brain have their on dna, and that genetic males can have female brains and vice versa. Yes, brains between men and women are different, men's brains are symmetrical, women's brains are asymmetrical. And gay men have straight women's brains, and gay women have straight men's brains.. But for physical sports, I would say they should go by the bodies dna, and not the brains.
@@lordgarion514 No, all the cells within a complex multicellular organism such as humans have the same DNA. Obviously the cells throughout the body differ, but that is how genome is expressed on a cellular level, DNA however is the same. DNA can and does change over time. I get your point about sex being more complex than physical gender features, there are a number in intersex possibilities, be it physiological or psychological. As far as brain symmetry you have that a bit reversed. In general male brains are more asymmetrically lateralized than female brains.
@lordgarion514 False science. Men are men and women are women . The number of hermaphrodite are less than .5 percent. There are scientists paid to confuse the issue for political reasons.
Our city let high school girls play with the boys if they wanted. 2 girls, pretty good, joined a boys team & practices went well. The first game? The other team treated them exactly like boys. They didn't finish the first period. They couldn't skate, shoot hit or take a hit AT ALL at game-speed. They went back to the girls team (no hitting there, as per the rules).
Yeah, you don’t even need to call it the men’s league as it’s really the league that represents the pinnacle of human athletic achievement. For better or worse, women simply cannot reach that pinnacle so they need a league of their own.
When you ask if trans athletes should be allowed to compete in the women's category, what you are really asking is, "Should we just eliminate the women's category?"
Exactly, & where does that make sense. Want 2compete as trans women, make a Transwoman league. They know trans competing in woman's sports hav abig advantage 2win contest. Udont see trans men competing in men's sports 4A reason. And they know it! Enought w/the Oakey Doke & bs. Oops, Gotta Go, heir comes tha warden 👋🏼🏃🏾🏃🏽🏃🏾🏃🏽🏃🏾🏃🏾🏃🏾
Women, who are obviously in every conceivable way inferior to trans women, shouldn't complain about the sacrifices and strides of brave trans women, who can finally freely dominate much weaker natural women in their area of excellence. Eliminating the women's category would jeopardize progress. 🤔
Tired of these delusional "swifties". Can't tell if Mike's high and provoking Maher or if he actually believes this crap. He is in fight mentality/conditioning and preparing for one atm.
It's not that hard to understand though............ Until more women athletes start protesting against Trans athletes I guess it just isn't that big of a deal to them....... The only name I know protesting the Leah Thomas fiasco is Riley Gaines, unless there is more, but they are just not as loud.......
So there's men invading female locker rooms? What if they're not attracted to females? Should gate men be allowed in male locker rooms? Or let's say a trans man is in a female's locker room? Should that be allowed? Why do you care?
@@cthulhucrews6602 Biology is science. Male/Female chromosomes are science. Until 10 seconds ago, 'He' referred to the male sex of the species. Now we're all jumping on someone else's crazy train? No thanks. It's 'He'.
I remember when I was in high school and my girlfriend was on the tennis team. She took me to the park and we played tennis. I destroyed her. And I had never played tennis in my life. Now imagine if I had gone on T-blockers and played on the girl's team......... Men taking T-blockers is 100% cheating, and the fact that states are allowing these men to compete and win official high school and NCAA championships is the very definition of insanity and delusion. The fact that the Olympic committee wants to allow it will be the end of the Olympics.
I think Mike is being sarcastic. If you consider everything he said in that excerpt through the lens of sarcasm, it makes perfect sense. VVomen are the one who voted in large majority for those "inclusive" politics, and now that it came back to her faces at full force, they call that "unfair" ?
Well, women are strong and independent. If they do not want to compete against these biological men, then they should band together and refuse this nonsense. However, they are doing fuck all to fight this, instead they want someone else to step in and fix it.
Tyson asked “If they allow him to participate, who are we to talk?”…well Mike, I’m going to tell you who are we. We are the boss, we are the public, we are the consumer, we are the ones supporting the sponsors, we are the ones paying all the bills, we are the ones who decide what we want to watch…and “They” are none of that.
Who are we to talk? Title 7 in the Civil Rights act of 1974 prohibits discrimination based on including sex and orientation. Title 9 establishes equal opportunity in Federally funded schools based on sex. The laws are clear on this. Is this 'fair'? No, it was never intended to be. It is supposed to be 'equal'. If you pay Federal taxes then you are part of the problem
For years, there was a struggle for Women's rights. I had 2 daughters and encouraged them to do whatever they want. Now educaters can't even tell us What a woman is! Everyone knows, but nobody will say it!!
It's ridiculous when intelligent people are afraid to speak the truth out of fear of being cancelled or kicked out of college. You can see the fear in their eyes when asked to define the word woman or can a man get pregnant.
When I was young, calling someone either Sir or Ma'am was considered respectful; and was furthermore a simple way to avoid neglecting the obvious. Now it's considered a "cisnormative micro-aggression," around which ambiguity and hostility prevails.
Horrible parenting. You basically told them nothing and threw them to the wolves instead of explaining reality of life. They can't and shouldn't do "whatever they want". You are an adult your job is to guide them.
They don't need a trans category. They just need to say no. And you should give up on Maher. People like him will destroy the world while claiming to be on the side on sanity. It's his party doing this stuff.
They can’t ever admit the wrong even when facts are hitting them in the face people like that are dangerous maniacal egotistical have to be right even when they’re wrong.
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If you have had any transgender treatment at all, compete against men. Female sports are a protected class just for females. NFL Football is open to anyone, just no women have been good enough to compete. There have been a few college female kickers for Football, but none have made it to the big leagues.
There have been some attempts to put together a "trans division" just as suggested, but I heard no one entered in those divisions. And, as mentioned, "trans men" aren't entering men's competitive events. So, let's just face the truth. These guys who say they're women are entering women's competitive sports for one reason...to win. They're cheating. Thanks for the content, Dave, and God bless you.
I do agree that many/most are doing so to win, but the premise you made in this post is completely faulty. The reason they don't compete in a trans category is because they don't want to be identified as trans or live life as a trans. They want to be women. So creating a trans category is no different than having them compete as men. Also, there aren't enough athletes to merit these categories. I only know of 1 trans competitor in MMA in the world. Who would she compete of. I've heard of 2 boxers, not even in the same division. Who would they compete against? Who would a modern day Bruce Jenner compete against in the Decathalon?
@jesses5463 I don't know who a modern day Bruce Jenner would compete against, but I know they'd smash the women's world record by a ridiculous margin.
I still can't believe the NCAA actually allowed a male who swam as a male competitive swimmer in college (William Thomas...I will NOT ever call him Lia Thomas) to suddenly say he's now a female and then swim against females and also go into their dressing rooms. Every person responsible for this decision should have their names made public and lose their jobs. It's incomprehensible.
You create a separate trans category in athletics and the issue disappears overnight. Competition is not the motivation for this movement. It's compliance. It's power.
Exactly. The trans issue is a divide and conquer strategy by the elites to erode the Family.Male and Female are at the heart of Family with CHILDREN as the prefered outcome!
The problem doesn't disappear. You just reinforced their delusions and validated them as "real". Just like there should never be a flat earthers division at NASA, who gets half the funding. That would be validating nonsense.
No one would participate in the trans category for the same reason you dont see women who identify as men in the men category, even though they are fully allowed to. They are men who identify as women participating in the women's category because they get an easy win that way,
can't create one though... the trans community is absolutely against it... almost as if they knew it would just further expose what everybody already knows..
Whoever decided that we need to be paying attention to an issue that affects less than .01-% of the population is laughing their butts off at the stupidity of the masses.
we need to pay attention because that .01%, with the help of the politics are enforcing their ideology on the rest of us. Or are you living under a rock ?
Isn't god responsible for all the chromosomal defects. Hormone producing tumours and all the other nonsense. Unfortunately we have to deal with his mess ups.
Anyone that cannot say that Genesis 1:27 is not true is ANTI-CHRIST,these feckless Godless men are afraid to say that this is utter wrong,a society with capitulating weak cowardice men CRUMBLES
Can you imagine if a in his prime Mike Tyson said "I'm a woman and I'm going to box other women" the outrage that would stem from that? If they even allowed it, we'd have a bunch of drool bucket needing women in wheelchairs with t-shirts that say "I Boxed Mike Tyson for 3 seconds"
@jaggedskar3890 That's because Richards was the best 45 year old in the history of women's tennis. She was ranked 20th in the WTA at age 45. Nobody else in history has been ranked that highly at that age.
Renee Richards was unranked as a male and 10 years past prime and still won a silver medal as a woman. Of course there is an advantage, it's why the Olympics stopped it for almost 50 years until it became politically in vogue.
Combat sports are the prime example of why this is obviously wrong. It's wrong in all physical sports but the combat sports is just plain criminal. A great question to ask Mike would be "would you want your daughter to box a man?"
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I've always wanted to be involved for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me. Although I have watched a lot of RUclips videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.
Because of public pressure. They don't wan to be cancelled or sued for 'misgendering' someone. Sounds insane in America, but in other countries like the UK you can actually be sued or criminally charged for those types of offenses committed online. It's insanity.
But how many born-as-a-woman athletes would have a fair chance of qualifying for a transgender Olympics? I'm sure it'd practically be all-male, biologically speaking.
Creating a Transgender Olympics is buying in to the idea that women can be men and men and can be women. They can't. People can act and dress however they want, but you can't change biology. If you were born a male, you compete with males. It is that simple.
Bill, we don't need a third category. There are men and there are women and outside and beyond that, there are people that need a lot of counselling and that's that!
@@marks5757 Both the Australia Women's National Team lost 7-0 to a Newcastle Jets U-15 boys team and the USWNT lost 5-2 to the FC Dallas U-15 boys academy team lol
It's not just that it's unfair to women; they also have to be in a changing room with somebody who has a male body and who dates women. What ever happened to women's rights and even their safety?
Serena Williams also said that if she played an equivalent male tennis player she'd lose 6-0, 6-0 every time and that it was almost a completely different sport. As bad as this is in swimming or tennis, it gets really problematic and downright dangerous in contact sports like MMA and boxing where males posing as females have seriously injured the women they were fighting. A few years back in MMA there was a 'trans-woman' (meaning a dude pretending to be a chick) sent his female opponent to the hospital with a cracked skull! While the media was fawning over him and saying how 'brave' he was, the poor woman whose skull he cracked was giving a hospital interview saying that she had never been hit that hard before in her life, but even then she didn't have the guts to come out and say that it was because that was the first time she had ever had to fight a man. Look at the 2024 Olympics. It's no surprise whatsoever that the two men fighting in women's boxing were both given gold medals.
He's an old leftist not the newage leftists of today that want woke policies, socialism, critical race theory, and globalism. Today's left has become a lot more radicalized.. maybe the right has too?
The "men" category is actual the "open" category. As Pearl Davis says, women elect the politicians but are generally uninterest in sports.. Predictable outcome.
I've never held even minor concern over the trans issue until they started in with women's sports - which sincerely angers me. Perhaps that's the real point of it.
Trans athletes tend to dominate women’s sports when allow to play, but there aren’t any trans athletes competing with men and winning. There is a distinct reason for that.
I get the impression that the reason why that seems to be is because they will be blown away like a hurricane 🌀. Trans athletes are not willing to participate in men's sports for that particular reason. They're afraid of losing against other biological men like them. It should not be that difficult to figure out.
Cause transgender athletes realize that they have the same strength as they do so they take advantage of the situation That's why 😑. They've come to the conclusion that if they played against a man that doesn't identify as transgender, or straight that their odds of winning are much more slim since they have the same muscle mass 😑. That is a fact that not that many people seem to be pointing out cause not everyone wants to play pretend that they're women 🚺 just like the female 🚺 athletes they seem to be competing against 😑.
Cause they'll be blown out of the water with other biological males like themselves sort of speak. That's why you won't see many of them competing against people like Usain Bolt or Anderson Silva. Women just don't have the same muscle mass as them. The odds of them winning against a male athlete or very slim. Unlike the many people that just claims that transgenders are real women I won't be that way.
Lia Thomas allowed to use the women's locker room is another aspect of the issue, and then the female athletes were required to receive counseling if they objected to that. Shouldn't women have a right to the privacy in which they have been raised and accustomed to and which previously has been a long accepted rule in society with obvious objectionable consequences if not followed? How many of the parents of the female college athletes would find such an immediate rule change acceptable? It seems nuts.
@@owainjohns2815 The 3 most important things you need to know to survive in Thailand: Dont insult the king. Dont deface the money. Dont piss off the ladyboys!
@@Peterbrendanalbert punch drunk boxing has the dead woman information and the normal news aired the other one. Sad shit when we don't sperate man and woman's sports, because of feelings.
Since the 90s women have been saying they are just as tough as men and fought to be in combat jobs and even tried to be in men's sports, so while I agree it shouldn't be fair...THEY have been asking for this for decades.
I never understood why people expect wisdom from Tyson. He has the mind of a child. Literally. He was never the brightest. Just because he's old doesn't mean that changed.
That's how it _is_ for most sports. You have the NBA and the WNBA, you don't have the MNBA. The "men's" categories in most cases _are_ open to all, it's just that women never make the cut.
We collectively have way too much respect for men's sports to do that. And it wouldn't be nearly progressive enough. The free-for-all obviously belongs in the inferior women's category. It makes the gaslighting much more efficient. Remember, "PROGRESS."
It's simple, two categories, XX chromosomes, and XY. The athletes compete where their corresponding chromosomes lay. Don't want to submit to that test, then you don't get to complete.
He can only afford to keep quiet because he has nothing to lose as a male fighter. What an absolute cash-in on the comfort of his position of safety. Cowardly
The gravity is that Tyson knows that it wouldn't be fair for him to claim to be a w 0 m 4 n and compete in that division, but he has an LGBTQ daughter. So, he doesn't want to upset her.
I stopped watching all sports, not because of the sport, but because of the corrupt governing bodies and their perversions of the sport. Football, cycling and now the Olympics. All ruined by the bureaucracy.
That's surely one of the greatest conundrums of our time. Some would probably say it's because of the intersection of the evil patriarchy combined with colonialism and capitalism keeping trans-men back, in alignment with the usual Freudian Oedipus complexes.
Its only complicated when you want to be politically correct and scared to speak your mind. It is not fair, and it is so obvious because you don't see women who identify as a man, competing in men sports. We all know why, but a man who identifies as a woman, easily participates in a woman's sports. That is all we need to know how unfair it is.
Renee Richards was middle aged when she played on the professional women’s tennis tour, ie, 43-47. Any advantages Richards had versus female players was mitigated by the youth of these players, who were generally a decade or two younger than Richards. That’s why Richards won zero titles.
I told my wife no more than 3 days ago that we are going to end up having 3 categories. Men, women, and transitioned men to women. The women aren't transitioning to men to compete against men so we won't need to worry about a fourth category.
Mike tyson shows why not everyone should host a podcast there has to be a certain level of intelligence and you can see his comeback of 'who are we to argue' is so stupid it stuns bill maher
Compassion for transgender males should not put biological females at a clear disadvantage. Those with gender dysphoria should be treated with dignity and respect, but NOT at the cost of fairness in women's sports. WOMEN ATHLETES WORK HARD TO COMPETE. A LOT OF TIME, BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS GO INTO TRAINING. Stand up for them!
This is NOT a complicated issue for a sane society.
Hey, hey, hey... stop gaslighting everyone. We're trying to, uh, progress.
This isn't progress @@PracticeTaiji
I think recent events have blown that theory to smithereens. In Olympic boxing you have what was for most of human history considered a woman, but because of her chromosomes her identity has very recently (in the last 20 - 30 years) been called into question. That is an absolute tapestry of complexity.
@@jimdancy7835 Yes, that was sarcasm. I find it gets past the censor bots much better than my real sentiments.
SPOT ON!
If it was so fair why are women not joining men's sports
Exactly!! :)
You took the words out of my mouth
They have tried, they don't qualify. The NHL allows women... look up Manon Rhéaume. She just didn't do well.
They are allowed
@@satansshadow2163 They are indeed. There's just no point.
Have we gotten so stupid that this is even a question? It IS wrong, and it IS unfair.
Sadly, yes.
It says a lot when the voice of reason is RUclips comment section.
It's actually cruel and abusive!!!!
Simple, succinct, and well-said.
We have, it's institutionalized stupidity. Precursor to dictatorship
A few idiots decided this for everyone. It's pure foolishness.
The people running this world right now, are nasty.
Think of the collusion. Republicans allowing themselves to be called "weird" without bringing this up.
I'm sure Mike wouldn't feel right going to featherweight fighting and winning every match..
100%
A few? These clowns are still calling him she. The woke mind virus has infected many more than just a few
It's so embarrassing to hear these men repeatedly say "she." If "she" was accurate then it wouldn't be a controversy to be in women's sports in the first place.
agreed, that bothers me too. This little segment is saying how unfair for these 'men' to pretend to be woman to get to play with women and beat the women....but then they call these men 'her' she'. WRONG. These fakers are MEN. MEN 'he' 'him'
This isn't the 1800s, science has made things a little more complicated.
For example, did you know that the body and the Brain have their on dna, and that genetic males can have female brains and vice versa.
Yes, brains between men and women are different, men's brains are symmetrical, women's brains are asymmetrical.
And gay men have straight women's brains, and gay women have straight men's brains..
But for physical sports, I would say they should go by the bodies dna, and not the brains.
it's so embarrassing to hear maher say anything
@@lordgarion514 No, all the cells within a complex multicellular organism such as humans have the same DNA. Obviously the cells throughout the body differ, but that is how genome is expressed on a cellular level, DNA however is the same. DNA can and does change over time.
I get your point about sex being more complex than physical gender features, there are a number in intersex possibilities, be it physiological or psychological. As far as brain symmetry you have that a bit reversed. In general male brains are more asymmetrically lateralized than female brains.
@lordgarion514 False science. Men are men and women are women . The number of hermaphrodite are less than .5 percent. There are scientists paid to confuse the issue for political reasons.
Bill: "There are differences between men and women"
Mike: "Maybe"
Me: "Yo wtf?"
Depends the modern woke woman look too ugly
Its because Mike has a daughter who is trans and he is most likely speaking out in support of her but he definitely knows its a bit bullshit. 🙌🦅🇵🇸
I THINK HE IS SAYING THAT BECAUSE HIS DAUGHTER IS BUTCH
Mike just wishing he was a woman so he could kick men's asses
Well Mike has been to prison.
The men's league is technically an open league.
Nothing stopping trans athletes from competing with men.
Our city let high school girls play with the boys if they wanted. 2 girls, pretty good, joined a boys team & practices went well. The first game? The other team treated them exactly like boys. They didn't finish the first period. They couldn't skate, shoot hit or take a hit AT ALL at game-speed. They went back to the girls team (no hitting there, as per the rules).
Their lack of talent prevents them.
Yeah, you don’t even need to call it the men’s league as it’s really the league that represents the pinnacle of human athletic achievement. For better or worse, women simply cannot reach that pinnacle so they need a league of their own.
Biological Physical male female Different sex difference
@@Pseudify they would probably consider the movie “a league of their own” sexist these days.
When you ask if trans athletes should be allowed to compete in the women's category, what you are really asking is, "Should we just eliminate the women's category?"
Exactly right. Why some folks can't see this is astounding to me.
When you ask a convicted grapist about ANYTHING, what you should be asking yourself is "Why am I speaking to a convicted grapist?"
Exactly, & where does that make sense. Want 2compete as trans women, make a Transwoman league. They know trans competing in woman's sports hav abig advantage 2win contest. Udont see trans men competing in men's sports 4A reason.
And they know it! Enought w/the Oakey Doke & bs. Oops, Gotta Go, heir comes tha warden 👋🏼🏃🏾🏃🏽🏃🏾🏃🏽🏃🏾🏃🏾🏃🏾
Well-stated.
Women, who are obviously in every conceivable way inferior to trans women, shouldn't complain about the sacrifices and strides of brave trans women, who can finally freely dominate much weaker natural women in their area of excellence. Eliminating the women's category would jeopardize progress. 🤔
Tyson proving he’s taken to many punches to the head
😂😂😂😂
He was probably high. I am being serious
Cause he have a trans kid
@@Onewildandcrazyguy no secret he smokes pot but so do I but I don’t do stupid, looks like he does
@@shakira9468 looks like RUclips stops certain posts as my reply to you didn’t show
its not "i identify as"
its " i pretend to be"
stop this childish behavior
Be careful of what you say - you might end up in a British prison for spreading hate speech.
Thank you!
@Deathscythe91 NAILED IT!
Tired of these delusional "swifties". Can't tell if Mike's high and provoking Maher or if he actually believes this crap. He is in fight mentality/conditioning and preparing for one atm.
some people think halloween is all year, every year.
Mike surprised me there , he almost sounded like the woke one .
It's not hard to understand. Google his son.
It's not that hard to understand though............ Until more women athletes start protesting against Trans athletes I guess it just isn't that big of a deal to them....... The only name I know protesting the Leah Thomas fiasco is Riley Gaines, unless there is more, but they are just not as loud.......
@@vladaHypocritical of Mike after making that parody sketch in the ring dressed as a woman and mocking the whole farce.
mike a democrat so he a sheep to anything democrats do he got brain damage a well and cannot really think for himself anymore.
Ooga booga. You freaks treating something you don't understand like the boogeyman will never not be funny to me. I bet you peaked in highschool.
It's not just the competing that's the problem , it's men being allowed to invade female locker rooms .
It's a multitude faceted issue. Competing and invading women's spaces are the problem .
So there's men invading female locker rooms? What if they're not attracted to females? Should gate men be allowed in male locker rooms? Or let's say a trans man is in a female's locker room? Should that be allowed? Why do you care?
'He', the word you're looking for is 'He'.
YES!!!!!
how old is this convo? Olympic boxer Imane Khelif...
@@cthulhucrews6602 Biology is science. Male/Female chromosomes are science. Until 10 seconds ago, 'He' referred to the male sex of the species. Now we're all jumping on someone else's crazy train? No thanks. It's 'He'.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@cthulhucrews6602True it’s not hard. Male = he Female = she.
C'mon mike stop saying these dudes are women. You're better than that
I think he would except he has a transgender child. That’s why he’s biased on this issue, wrongly in my opinion.
@@adarivera9519Now that I did not know!!
Ask Robin Givens about him sometime.
No he's not
His kids and wife yell at him when he’s frank and honest about this stuff, he’s admitted it multiple times before
I remember when I was in high school and my girlfriend was on the tennis team. She took me to the park and we played tennis. I destroyed her. And I had never played tennis in my life.
Now imagine if I had gone on T-blockers and played on the girl's team.........
Men taking T-blockers is 100% cheating, and the fact that states are allowing these men to compete and win official high school and NCAA championships is the very definition of insanity and delusion. The fact that the Olympic committee wants to allow it will be the end of the Olympics.
@@robnunurbiznezz7618 Well, it was a real high school.....
You didn't get segs that night, huh? 🤣
@@gorilladisco9108 No it was all good, I stopped by your mom's house.
Never thought I'd see Mike Tyson K.O. his own reputation with woke B.S.
Spinal!
He has a Trans Son. So he can’t speak against
@@jaywill3672 Didn't know that, had I known that before this video, I would've already lost all respect for him at the learning of that alone.
Maybe he like the ladyboys?
He's a boxer, lots of knocks to the head.
"They allowed them to participate; who are we to talk?"
This is known as an appeal to authority fallacy.
yep 100% btw did you play evil ryu in cvs2?
I think Mike is being sarcastic. If you consider everything he said in that excerpt through the lens of sarcasm, it makes perfect sense. VVomen are the one who voted in large majority for those "inclusive" politics, and now that it came back to her faces at full force, they call that "unfair" ?
@@lamikal2515 Yeah, I think Tyson is playing Devil's advocate. He's basically roping Maher into the position he agrees with.
Are you implying Mike is not as sophisticated scholar who isn't aware of that?
Well, women are strong and independent. If they do not want to compete against these biological men, then they should band together and refuse this nonsense. However, they are doing fuck all to fight this, instead they want someone else to step in and fix it.
Everyone was like “uh, we don’t have to imagine Mike beating a woman”.
Yea that was kind of awkward
Tyson asked “If they allow him to participate, who are we to talk?”…well Mike, I’m going to tell you who are we. We are the boss, we are the public, we are the consumer, we are the ones supporting the sponsors, we are the ones paying all the bills, we are the ones who decide what we want to watch…and “They” are none of that.
Who are we to talk? Title 7 in the Civil Rights act of 1974 prohibits discrimination based on including sex and orientation. Title 9 establishes equal opportunity in Federally funded schools based on sex. The laws are clear on this. Is this 'fair'? No, it was never intended to be. It is supposed to be 'equal'.
If you pay Federal taxes then you are part of the problem
For years, there was a struggle for Women's rights. I had 2 daughters and encouraged them to do whatever they want. Now educaters can't even tell us What a woman is! Everyone knows, but nobody will say it!!
It's ridiculous when intelligent people are afraid to speak the truth out of fear of being cancelled or kicked out of college. You can see the fear in their eyes when asked to define the word woman or can a man get pregnant.
When I was young, calling someone either Sir or Ma'am was considered respectful; and was furthermore a simple way to avoid neglecting the obvious. Now it's considered a "cisnormative micro-aggression," around which ambiguity and hostility prevails.
And the same women crying about women’s rights for abortion rights are ignoring women’s rights for sex based rights.
Horrible parenting. You basically told them nothing and threw them to the wolves instead of explaining reality of life. They can't and shouldn't do "whatever they want". You are an adult your job is to guide them.
Now men need more help than women because they have many issues while women are pretty much caught up at the workplace
Number of trans-men who have won any title in any competitive sport ever: 0
@@bostonTaoist Men, as in, the other direction.
They don't need a trans category. They just need to say no.
And you should give up on Maher. People like him will destroy the world while claiming to be on the side on sanity. It's his party doing this stuff.
They can’t ever admit the wrong even when facts are hitting them in the face people like that are dangerous maniacal egotistical have to be right even when they’re wrong.
Maher worked on this leftist ideology all his life NOW he is confused.
Yeah, he doesn’t seem to support the things the party he supports supports
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If you have had any transgender treatment at all, compete against men. Female sports are a protected class just for females. NFL Football is open to anyone, just no women have been good enough to compete. There have been a few college female kickers for Football, but none have made it to the big leagues.
There have been some attempts to put together a "trans division" just as suggested, but I heard no one entered in those divisions. And, as mentioned, "trans men" aren't entering men's competitive events. So, let's just face the truth. These guys who say they're women are entering women's competitive sports for one reason...to win. They're cheating. Thanks for the content, Dave, and God bless you.
I do agree that many/most are doing so to win, but the premise you made in this post is completely faulty. The reason they don't compete in a trans category is because they don't want to be identified as trans or live life as a trans. They want to be women. So creating a trans category is no different than having them compete as men. Also, there aren't enough athletes to merit these categories. I only know of 1 trans competitor in MMA in the world. Who would she compete of. I've heard of 2 boxers, not even in the same division. Who would they compete against? Who would a modern day Bruce Jenner compete against in the Decathalon?
@@jesses5463But the problem is They are not women and they never will be! they can play pretend and all but They still got the XY not XX
@jesses5463 I don't know who a modern day Bruce Jenner would compete against, but I know they'd smash the women's world record by a ridiculous margin.
I still can't believe the NCAA actually allowed a male who swam as a male competitive swimmer in college (William Thomas...I will NOT ever call him Lia Thomas) to suddenly say he's now a female and then swim against females and also go into their dressing rooms. Every person responsible for this decision should have their names made public and lose their jobs. It's incomprehensible.
Why do they refer to the man, she / her, it's a man, he/him are the correct pronouns
XY chromosomes, has penis, dates women. Sounds like a dude to me.
Within the next few years the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show will be sued to allow those that identify as dogs to compete..
You joke, but it will happen.
Truth can be scary I know
Now Maher knows what it feels like to get interrupted every few seconds.
You create a separate trans category in athletics and the issue disappears overnight.
Competition is not the motivation for this movement. It's compliance. It's power.
Exactly.
The trans issue is a divide and conquer strategy by the elites to erode the Family.Male and Female are at the heart of Family with CHILDREN as the prefered outcome!
Bingo.
The problem doesn't disappear. You just reinforced their delusions and validated them as "real".
Just like there should never be a flat earthers division at NASA, who gets half the funding. That would be validating nonsense.
No one would participate in the trans category for the same reason you dont see women who identify as men in the men category, even though they are fully allowed to. They are men who identify as women participating in the women's category because they get an easy win that way,
can't create one though... the trans community is absolutely against it... almost as if they knew it would just further expose what everybody already knows..
Mike didn't start out life with a lot up there. And then all the punches to the head for many years. He didn't disappoint. So insightful.
There's already a catagory for Trans people to compete in the Olympics. They can join the paralympics
BINGO
😂
They can play in the category that matches their sex.
Just like everyone else.
Special Olympics more like it
That's extremely offensive to paralympians
Asking Mike Tyson to comment on trans issues... Might as well ask Biden to comment on politics!
🤣👍
Never ask the opinion of a guy whose made a living getting punched in the head.
I think his daughter identifies as a man or something… maybe?
Isnt he a convicted rapist?
Mike Tyson was quoted saying the best punch he ever threw was on his ex wife.. he's down with hitting women
"It's a complicated issue."
It's not.
Whoever decided that we need to be paying attention to an issue that affects less than .01-% of the population is laughing their butts off at the stupidity of the masses.
It started with the bathrooms
we need to pay attention because that .01%, with the help of the politics are enforcing their ideology on the rest of us. Or are you living under a rock ?
@@satansshadow2163 it started with Obama
it's a lot higher now of a percentage with the freak teachers we've been putting in elementary and middle schools.
Every journey starts with the first step.
It's HE, not she. It's not complex. God is not the author of confusion.
God created them male and female.
Isn't god responsible for all the chromosomal defects. Hormone producing tumours and all the other nonsense. Unfortunately we have to deal with his mess ups.
Amen
Clearly you've never studied quantum mechanics. I kid, your point is valid.
Anyone that cannot say that Genesis 1:27 is not true is ANTI-CHRIST,these feckless Godless men are afraid to say that this is utter wrong,a society with capitulating weak cowardice men CRUMBLES
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That’s too bad Mike doesn’t see the issue to this. He should know better than anyone. Sounds like he lost his balls
Got beat on the head a few too many times.
Too much dope
this clip is from over a year ago. maybe his opinion is different now edit: the clip is almost 2 years old. was uploaded September 2022
Can you imagine if a in his prime Mike Tyson said "I'm a woman and I'm going to box other women" the outrage that would stem from that? If they even allowed it, we'd have a bunch of drool bucket needing women in wheelchairs with t-shirts that say "I Boxed Mike Tyson for 3 seconds"
Nah women voted for this
Mike Tyson should register as 'Michaela Tyson' and win all possible women boxing accolades, truly the goat 😂
Scary Movie 4 🤣
Tyson in a wig "Who are you to tell me im not a woman"
Well he is so strong he can probably will beat any man alive. He doesn't need newly created loopholes to win fights.
Renee Richardson was 41 years old when she transitioned. Just how many championships has been won by 41 year old women?
Still was a top notch doubles partner with Martina Navratilova.
Great point.
@jaggedskar3890 That's because Richards was the best 45 year old in the history of women's tennis. She was ranked 20th in the WTA at age 45. Nobody else in history has been ranked that highly at that age.
@@sebfox2194 Exactly. Because Renee Richards was a man.
We as a human race have lost it. You don't see this crap in Russia, China or N korea and some other countries. This is crazy.
It's not the human race...it's the US.
The woke motto: if you can't beat 'em, ruin it.
China's got it. Several Chinese trans females via Flickr. Xi is only covering it up. Ditto with Putin and Russia.
EU social engineering via Tavistock Institute
Why don't you go and live there?
Renee Richards was unranked as a male and 10 years past prime and still won a silver medal as a woman. Of course there is an advantage, it's why the Olympics stopped it for almost 50 years until it became politically in vogue.
Combat sports are the prime example of why this is obviously wrong. It's wrong in all physical sports but the combat sports is just plain criminal.
A great question to ask Mike would be "would you want your daughter to box a man?"
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Its not coplicated. Its actually very simple. They are men who are being allowed to compete against women.
The fact this needs to be discussed is crazy af to me
It's so bizarre that we even have to have this conversation. The world has gone nuts.
Tyson is scared to state the truth. What a country we live in.
Why are they referring to men as “she” and “her”? It’s all so ridiculous
Because of public pressure. They don't wan to be cancelled or sued for 'misgendering' someone. Sounds insane in America, but in other countries like the UK you can actually be sued or criminally charged for those types of offenses committed online. It's insanity.
Olympics, Special Olympics, ParaOlympics, Transgender Olympics. Problem solved.
But how many born-as-a-woman athletes would have a fair chance of qualifying for a transgender Olympics? I'm sure it'd practically be all-male, biologically speaking.
Creating a Transgender Olympics is buying in to the idea that women can be men and men and can be women. They can't. People can act and dress however they want, but you can't change biology. If you were born a male, you compete with males. It is that simple.
@@bigredracingteam9642 Edit: 2 new classes in Paralympics: a) born-as-a-woman athletes, b) born-as-a-man athletes. Problem solved.
lots of people faking disability in special olympics as well
@@basillah7650 can you give an example? thought not.
Bill, we don't need a third category. There are men and there are women and outside and beyond that, there are people that need a lot of counselling and that's that!
Didn't the Australian women's national team lose 7-0 to a team of 15 year old boys? Men and women are built different, obviously.
That was the American team that won the World Cup that got whooped by a HS team. 😂 yea seriously.
@@marks5757 Both the Australia Women's National Team lost 7-0 to a Newcastle Jets U-15 boys team and the USWNT lost 5-2 to the FC Dallas U-15 boys academy team lol
It's not just that it's unfair to women; they also have to be in a changing room with somebody who has a male body and who dates women. What ever happened to women's rights and even their safety?
Serena Williams also said that if she played an equivalent male tennis player she'd lose 6-0, 6-0 every time and that it was almost a completely different sport. As bad as this is in swimming or tennis, it gets really problematic and downright dangerous in contact sports like MMA and boxing where males posing as females have seriously injured the women they were fighting. A few years back in MMA there was a 'trans-woman' (meaning a dude pretending to be a chick) sent his female opponent to the hospital with a cracked skull! While the media was fawning over him and saying how 'brave' he was, the poor woman whose skull he cracked was giving a hospital interview saying that she had never been hit that hard before in her life, but even then she didn't have the guts to come out and say that it was because that was the first time she had ever had to fight a man. Look at the 2024 Olympics. It's no surprise whatsoever that the two men fighting in women's boxing were both given gold medals.
Bill maher actually having common sense is shocking
Give it a day or two and he’ll totally say something stupid.
it's a bit he does to get attention. Nobody would pay attention to a centrist speaking centrist ideas.
He's an old leftist not the newage leftists of today that want woke policies, socialism, critical race theory, and globalism. Today's left has become a lot more radicalized.. maybe the right has too?
@@billb89 agreed
@@keim3548 agreed
The "men" category is actual the "open" category. As Pearl Davis says, women elect the politicians but are generally uninterest in sports.. Predictable outcome.
This
I've never held even minor concern over the trans issue until they started in with women's sports - which sincerely angers me. Perhaps that's the real point of it.
Me neither, until they started indoctrinating children.
Contact sports. Men hitting women
Injuries, brain trauma
Unbelievable. We're living in a terrible sci-fi movie
Bill shouldn't debate Mike Tyson. Mike doesn't have the mental acuity to debate something like this.
They both were high ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Trans athletes tend to dominate women’s sports when allow to play, but there aren’t any trans athletes competing with men and winning. There is a distinct reason for that.
I get the impression that the reason why that seems to be is because they will be blown away like a hurricane 🌀. Trans athletes are not willing to participate in men's sports for that particular reason. They're afraid of losing against other biological men like them. It should not be that difficult to figure out.
Cause transgender athletes realize that they have the same strength as they do so they take advantage of the situation That's why 😑. They've come to the conclusion that if they played against a man that doesn't identify as transgender, or straight that their odds of winning are much more slim since they have the same muscle mass 😑. That is a fact that not that many people seem to be pointing out cause not everyone wants to play pretend that they're women 🚺 just like the female 🚺 athletes they seem to be competing against 😑.
Cause they'll be blown out of the water with other biological males like themselves sort of speak. That's why you won't see many of them competing against people like Usain Bolt or Anderson Silva. Women just don't have the same muscle mass as them. The odds of them winning against a male athlete or very slim. Unlike the many people that just claims that transgenders are real women I won't be that way.
A very distinct reason for that. It's called male genetics, and muscle 💪 mass. Women 🚺 don't have that so they don't stand a chance.
Mike Tyson also has a trans kid, so he's also kinda woke.
Seven kids and one claims non binary
There's always a runt in a litter, goes for all species.
That explains it.
My 13-year-old son pretends to identify as a muffin, just to drive his woke teacher's crazy, and I fucking love him for it. Totally his idea, BTW.
That's no excuse. Elon has a trans son and he is against it.
Bill nearly always makes sense. Come on Rubin....
Renee Richards was in her 40s when she competed. And today has spoken out saying in retrospect shouldn't competed in woman's sport.
Bill Maher isn’t half the man his mother is.
Lia Thomas allowed to use the women's locker room is another aspect of the issue, and then the female athletes were required to receive counseling if they objected to that. Shouldn't women have a right to the privacy in which they have been raised and accustomed to and which previously has been a long accepted rule in society with obvious objectionable consequences if not followed? How many of the parents of the female college athletes would find such an immediate rule change acceptable? It seems nuts.
"She" is a lesbian transgender 🤣
The binary of non binary 🤣🤣
It's not just 'not fair' to women, it could be extremely dangerous/fatal in combat sports.
it'd called ladyboy, check thailand.
😂😂😂
And they "love you long time" too.
And just like in the olympics......You dont fuck with them!
Check Thailand? We have more here in the us than Thailand does
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Dont deface the money.
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XX chromosomes should compete with XX.
XY chromosomes should compete with XY. PERIOD.
In the Olympics one woman was killed and one was paralyzed
Who? When? Where? Now? Paris? I'm sure this would have been news.. Or?
Yea, when? Who?@@Peterbrendanalbert
@@Peterbrendanalbert punch drunk boxing has the dead woman information and the normal news aired the other one. Sad shit when we don't sperate man and woman's sports, because of feelings.
Nope. Either stop lying or read the actual full stories you are glancing at.
If he could only keep Maher quiet? 😑👈
Since the 90s women have been saying they are just as tough as men and fought to be in combat jobs and even tried to be in men's sports, so while I agree it shouldn't be fair...THEY have been asking for this for decades.
Tyson displaying his his IQ here
I never understood why people expect wisdom from Tyson. He has the mind of a child. Literally. He was never the brightest. Just because he's old doesn't mean that changed.
Nobody talks about the woman who went home and died after fighting the queer
Who?
"I just go by what the women are saying" is hardly better than "who am I to talk."
These are unserious people.
Change my mind. Let the "free for all" be the mens league. Let others be restricted.
That's how it _is_ for most sports. You have the NBA and the WNBA, you don't have the MNBA. The "men's" categories in most cases _are_ open to all, it's just that women never make the cut.
He didn't, he just always say something completely unpredictable.
@@WJS774 Yup. Sports have 2 categories: Open and Women's. Most people believe it's Men and Women's which is not correct.
We collectively have way too much respect for men's sports to do that. And it wouldn't be nearly progressive enough. The free-for-all obviously belongs in the inferior women's category. It makes the gaslighting much more efficient. Remember, "PROGRESS."
And everyone still ignoring that only female leagues have a sex requirements. "Male" leagues are sex neutral, anyone can join; if they're good enough.
It's simple, two categories, XX chromosomes, and XY. The athletes compete where their corresponding chromosomes lay. Don't want to submit to that test, then you don't get to complete.
I love the "we need a 3rd category" we already have that category its called mens sports!
"Who am I to talk?" Neither the other two men understood the absolute gravity of that statement.
He can only afford to keep quiet because he has nothing to lose as a male fighter. What an absolute cash-in on the comfort of his position of safety. Cowardly
The gravity is that Tyson knows that it wouldn't be fair for him to claim to be a w 0 m 4 n and compete in that division, but he has an LGBTQ daughter. So, he doesn't want to upset her.
Bill Maher debating Lia Thomas makes as much sense as Lia Thomas beating Thomas Sowell in a swimming competition.
How us it a complicate issue when it' s more than simple truth: it's a common sense scientific truth!
I stopped watching all sports, not because of the sport, but because of the corrupt governing bodies and their perversions of the sport. Football, cycling and now the Olympics. All ruined by the bureaucracy.
No one trans woman to man compete with men. Why is that?
That's surely one of the greatest conundrums of our time. Some would probably say it's because of the intersection of the evil patriarchy combined with colonialism and capitalism keeping trans-men back, in alignment with the usual Freudian Oedipus complexes.
Its only complicated when you want to be politically correct and scared to speak your mind. It is not fair, and it is so obvious because you don't see women who identify as a man, competing in men sports. We all know why, but a man who identifies as a woman, easily participates in a woman's sports. That is all we need to know how unfair it is.
I agree with Bill, let the alphabet party have their own special Olympics 🏃♀️
Mike only talks this way because of his "trans" child, no other reason, I think he knows the truth deep down though
These trans athletes went through male puberty and have make physiology. This is a no brainer.
SIMPLE! What DNA 🧬 does the athlete have. That’s the determining factor
Those memes of Mike Tyson in a wig are reality....
Renee Richards was middle aged when she played on the professional women’s tennis tour, ie, 43-47. Any advantages Richards had versus female players was mitigated by the youth of these players, who were generally a decade or two younger than Richards. That’s why Richards won zero titles.
I told my wife no more than 3 days ago that we are going to end up having 3 categories. Men, women, and transitioned men to women. The women aren't transitioning to men to compete against men so we won't need to worry about a fourth category.
In the future there will only be 1 categorie men and men who dress up like women.... Real female sports will die out...
Mike tyson shows why not everyone should host a podcast there has to be a certain level of intelligence and you can see his comeback of 'who are we to argue' is so stupid it stuns bill maher
Not much ever stuns Bill, but Mike sure did lol
Compassion for transgender males should not put biological females at a clear disadvantage.
Those with gender dysphoria should be treated with dignity and respect, but NOT at the cost of fairness in women's sports.
WOMEN ATHLETES WORK HARD TO COMPETE. A LOT OF TIME, BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS GO INTO TRAINING. Stand up for them!
Removing biology classes from sports is the same as removing weight classes from combat sports, it's dumb and it will make me laugh
Hey Mike, we're now thinkin , you got hit in the head too many times.
What's up with these titles Dave?! 😵💫
Totally misleading, the intern who's choosing the titles clearly hates Bill Maher
Mike Tyson should still be in jail.
Mike had a Trans girlfriend when he was in prison....🤡
seeeing you cannot accept yourself as you actually are - how can you expect anyone to accept you as you *are not?*
What is wrong with Iron Mike?? “Maybe”, he said. C’mon man, Tyson has more sense than this…doesn’t he?
Goes to show how all those blows and knocks to the head while boxing can distort and affect normal thinking.
Dear trans community, don’t tell me I have to accept you for who you are when you couldn’t accept yourself for who you were.
The Trans community will drop to their knees anytime you need.....🤡
We can't have a third category, because it would be a league of four people.
Yeah, the third category would have to have sub-categories for it to be fair 😂
It's a league of their own ¯\_(ツ)_/¯