Building a Benchtop CNC -Part 1 - Y-Axis
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Building a benchtop cnc from 8020 extruded aluminium, and some salvaged parts. This one is stepper motor driven.
In this part I construct and assemble the Y axis
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I don't know your builders background but you represent yourself well in this video. Considering your meticulous attention to detail and your, from the floor up build savvy, I would definitely be inclined to hear your unbiased review of other kits on the market. There are others who do reviews on pre-builds and kits but I have yet to see anyone do what you do from the ground up and with absolute precision at the forefront.
Thank you VERY much for the kind feedback Sir. I am not in the process of doing any reviews of commercially available kits. Thanks for watching and commenting
I’m now motivated to finally build my MPCNC
Nice, all the best on your build Jack
It's easy. Beefy linear rails. Quality Ball screws, 80/20 and MIC 6 plate frame and gantry. = Win!
😀👍
Very cool. I build a similar machine and also faced the problems of not having a CNC to build one. So my CNC uses waterjet cut plates that get screwed into the ends of aluminium profiles. Waterjets can easily cut 20mm aluminium. Laser cutters are cheaper, but can mostly only cut 6mm or so. I payed 200$ for all my plates.
That router popped out, I was like, *WHAT THE.. OHHH THATS SICK!!!*
Tanks Henry, Yes it is very convenient
Yeah, that caught my eye too. Went looking.
Older lowtech version: ruclips.net/video/jiAmdIB93_4/видео.html
the version in the video: ruclips.net/video/ae1HW9LRZ6I/видео.html
Well equipped shop and stellar vid. I want one!!!!!
Thank you for watching and commenting
I would be happy to have an ABO back.
Now that’s a build ... nice job.
Thanks Robert
Som vanlig: Utrulig bra!
Gleder meg til fortsettelsene!
Jeg driver også å samler opp "skrot" fra jobben, kona blir litt smågærn, men når man får så mye bra gratis, så er det bare å si takk!
Har selv mange prosjekter som jeg prøver å finne tid til, det er ikke alltid helt lett, men dine prosjekter er veldig motiverende, så takk!
WOW. Simply WOW. I own a hobby machine from Germany. Looking at your build...man I can only dream. :) Excellent work.
Thanks for the kind feedback. I wanted a rigid smaller machine, mostly for engraving, but with no backlash, and the possibilities for cutting non ferrous metals
Can't wait for part 2.
Very Nice Setup Sir, I'm inspired to make my own version too...and will update soon using metal profiles
Thanks, glad you liked it, good luck on your build👍😀
The moment you wish you had a CNC mill to make the CNC mill >.>
Nice job , Well Done .... Im building CNC plasma - mill combo 2.4mx1.5m , i cant wait to get done
Thanks. That is a pretty huge machine. Will you have a split machine with 1 side for the waterbed, and one "dry side, Or just a full size waterbed that is coverable for milling?
Your welcome .. :) My plan is to have full waterbed but i will have mill head too , so i can do nice finish on some hole or shape before comletely burnet out. Im buildng 2nd 1.5 x1m with pneumatic head . If i need to do something really big then i will remove bed ..:)
Świetna robota. Prosty i skuteczny montaż .
very cool build. looking forward to the rest of the videos!
Big job, i'm a fan of your work !
Thanks
Magic router table magically appears!
You can see all about it here: ruclips.net/video/ae1HW9LRZ6I/видео.html&ab_channel=BellevueWoodshop
Simply awesome!
Love my Evolution Saw.
Yes it works great, and a lot less mess than a coolant based saw
Nice build! Those Evolution saws are great! Cut metal wood etc. That reminds me...I have to sharpen the blade on mine.
Thanks, yup cold cut saws are great.
You're killing me, Smalls, you're killing me. Where is part 2. You did a superior job on the Y-axis. Can't wait to see the finished product. Great job so far. Is that Bellevue, Washington or Bellevue State mental Institution. LOL.
Thanks. The rest of the parts are on my channel: Part2: ruclips.net/video/YYEn-dR79Ig/видео.html& Part 3: ruclips.net/video/km7uNr12wE8/видео.html Part 4: ruclips.net/video/fHhfvpI6te0/видео.html
awesome man! great tolerance management :D
Super Top!
Thanks
wonderful stuff, as always! thank you for sharing Roy! best wishes, Evangelos
Thank you very much Evangelos, same to you
Very nice!
Congratulations!
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Gleder meg fælt til fortsettelsen!!
Så bra Torbjørn. regner med det blir 3 deler til. Har godt over 240 klipp som skal redigeres.......
4:25 Not necessary. All you have to do is screw on a plate and slide back and forth and tighten the screws.
As usual, Roy, immaculate workmanship! Looking forward to part 2.
Thank you John, Have started the editing process, but a total of 240 clips, probably makes for maybe 3 or 4 parts total
Awesome
using simple tools you can find at home... 🤔
This was definitely not homemade. This man is clearly a professional.
Well, I can't even buy 15mm aluminum locally and the shipping costs would kill me PLUS I have a drill, a hammer, screw driver, a reciprocating saw, a drill press, and a circular saw. Yep, that's it so that leaves me out of this and I really do want to build a small one of say 300mmx300mm for now.
@@thebeststooge oddly enough amazon is starting to carry it :0
@xConundrumx Carry what? Amazon charges a lot of money on some items so if you mean 15mm aluminum plate I bet it is "free shipping" but the base price of the aluminum is hell.
@@thebeststooge it's not too bad actually at least not around here. Either that or the price of local vendors is equally excessive as the difference is quite low between them and the amazon vendors. Which I have to admit is a possibility indeed.
Sir please talk name of projects
I'm sorry... Did that router just pop up from the table?!?!! 😎
Yes Sir. You can check out the router table features here: ruclips.net/video/ae1HW9LRZ6I/видео.html&t=😀
Hi, have you got any plans of this project? It's amazing
Thanks Matthew, Unfortunately there are no plans available for this one, but you can check out my website for my other plasn at> www.bellevuewoodshop.com
atleast get a closed loop steppers to cut down on the amount of noise.
Very good job!!! Congratulations
Can you tell me the size of the machine? and what is the useful area of work?
Tks
Thanks. It has a working area of aprox 600mm by 440mm
Hello CV thank you for your work and thank you very much for your work. Is what you can do me a favor
Thank you for watching and commenting😄👍
What type aluminum profile use?
Not sure what these are called as it was a result of a dumpster dive.
Where did you get your plans
It was not built from plans. Just built it on the fly from the top of my head as I went along
After already building a cnc myself, I absolutely envy this beautiful design. Did you design this from scratch or from plans etc?
Thank you. No I just built it "on the fly" from the top of my head, with the salvaged pieces I had
Can those linear rails successfully slide from 1 section to another if you were to make it twice as long as the sections you have?
Normally they can be stubbed together with 2 factory cut edges, but i just built it as long as my ballscrew was, so I do not plan to extend it
Hi Roy enjoyed watching the videos of you building a great machine, very interested in building my router total newbie at this. You wouldn't happen to have the plans available for this build
Thanks for the kind feedback Paul. Unfortunately there are no plans available. i just built it on the fly, from the top of my head, with the parts I had laying around
If you were to make again Roy without any spare bits lying around what do you think the cost would be roughly in dollars to make again bud
Pls let me know how the electronics works as one system in this other wise my brain will blowup pls
There are tons of information on the web on the construction of DIY cnc´s. Check out cnczone.com for instance
@@bellevuesnekkeri Thanx so much
Wow, well done :)
Isn’t this the X “not Y” axis though?
Greetings from Egypt
Thank you. Normally the gantry is X axis and the bed (longest) axis is Y as you say. But as I load the machine from the side, I find it easier to cad/cam with the axis in this direction
Bellevue Woodshop Aha, thanks for clarification.
hello, was there a problem that the Y axis is not double? i also plan to have 1 engine in the middle. what is your experience?
Hello Roland. Thank you for your interest. The absolute best is to use 2 motors. This smaller cnc is very rigid, and the span of the gantry is fairly short. But I would recommend using a motor on each side for anything larger. My big cnc also only have 1 ballscrew, and I have some racking issues
Hi. Very nice, and goog looking machine. Could You tell, what the dimension of frame are?
Thank you Pawel. It is aprox 800mm x 500mm
what kind stepper motor are u using? nema 34?
Nema 23´s I later put larger 23´s on all axis
Awesome! Helt konge! :)
Hi very impressive build, I'm looking into getting a CNC machine and was wondering why most if not all of them seem to have a working height/depth limit of around 45-50mm?
Thank you Steven. I am not sure why, but it might be that a taller gantry requires more heavy duty construction, and it might be just to keep production and shipping costs down. Not sure, just a guess. Thanks for watching and commenting
Great project. What types (sizes) of profiles did you use ?? Where to buy them ?
Thanks. The sides of the machine is 44mm x 88mm, and the support ubnder the bed is 50mm x 25mm. All the profiles are salvaged from old machines that we have dismantled at work
How much is the machine?
It is not for sale unfortunately. I built it with mostly salvaged parts
Why does all the circuitry make all that noise? Analog vs Digital maybe?
Stepper motors tend to "sing" when all the axis blend at different speed and ramping up and down.
try tmc2130s
Incredible, it’s certainly going to be stiff! What are you planning to mill with it?
Thanks, Its going to be used mainly for engraving, preferably small detailed work. Also some aluminium engraving
1:13 that was a good move :D
Thanks
First of all very good job !! Is there any plan you can do to build cnc?
Thank you Sir. Unfortunately there are no plans available for this one
Great video . I have a question however about a song played on part 1 between minute 2:58- 450 ? Wanted to know the name of the song ?
Thanks. It is Old Friend by Silent pPartner from the youtube audio library😀👍
Nice...is there a total build cost somewhere for a baby of this size....?
Thanks. I had salvaged a lot of the parts, so hard to tell total cost if purchased. I purchased a couple of ballscrews, the steppers and drivers, along with the spindle. That came out at approx 250-300 USD
Bellevue Woodshop I am thinking of putting together a workbee now but I also want it for fine detail on smaller items and I am not sure whether being a larger machine it will be able to do it over the 3018 mini machines not the crap clones ones but the 3018 sainsmay mx model which pretty much is only for small detailed stuff if you mode it where the workbee will probably do anything you throw at it, I will mainly just be making house signs from Ali, copper and hard woods any comments? Kill the 3018 and just go for the bigger bugger? I seek lots of pros and cons and it seems to me the biggest issue is you grow out of the smaller machines very quickly unless all you want to do is dog tags which I do not but I will do some hence I need a machine capable of both or I need 2 machines looking for a straight answer tx
Please add a link where to buy that macho looking aluminum extrusion and the rail.
Hi Rafael. I am not sure where these can be bought. I got mine dumpster diving at work. but if you google 8020 extrusions you might find some companies that carry it in your area
looks very good. What spindle did you use and what materials can it cut? it looks pretty rigid. I'd like to do the same but for cutting carbon fiber and aluminium. Do you think yours would be stiff and powerful enough for those materials with the right spindle???
It is a 1,5kw max 24000 rpm china spindle. I use it only for wood, but have tested it on some aluminum and brass, but mainly engraving. With light passes it should be OK, I think
@@bellevuesnekkeri ok thx. May I also know what stepper motors you used? I'm trying to keep costs down and was looking for most electronics on Aliexpress. And last question, what aluminum type are the plates you used?
what is the stepper motor specification?
I think they are 23HS7628 76mm Nema 23 Stepper, if I remember correctly
Hello, I just stumbled across your amazing build. Great job! I built one several years ago out of wood and i did everything ok but my stepper motors would only give me a max of 18 to 20 inches per minute. I'd like to build another one soon out of aluminum this time. If you wouldn't mind, how did you determine what size pulleys to put on your stepper motor and ball screw to get a resonable feed rate, and what is your max feed rate or rapid? Thanks, Carl
Thanks Carl. I started out (and it is shown in the video) with 3:1 or was it 4:1?, for most torque, but is resulted in a slow feedrate. After the video was built, I swapped them for 1:1 ratio. I can now rapid 6000mm/min, aprox 240"/min. I normally dont cut faster than 1800mm/m or 70"/min
Thank you so much for your video. How much did this entire project cost? Anychance you can provide a list of all the parts and where to buy?
Glad you liked it. I built it mostly from salvaged parts. I did by some transmission parts and the spindle off ebay. Not sure, but aprox 250-300usd
@@bellevuesnekkeri I like that sort of price....
Ligner veldig på min, men din ser ut til å bli noe bredere enn den jeg har. Gled deg :) Veldig fornøyd med min. Hva slags tegninger følger du på denne ?
Såpass ja. Hehe. Det er imponerende! Har en i planene jeg også, men litt for mye annet om dagen. Morro å se at noen kaster seg på sånn som du gjør her. Blir morro å se sluttresultatet. Lykke til! Rått å se på :)
Aren't those gantry plates a little overkill?
Rigidity is a goal, especially if you want to cut no ferrous metals
Hi , great job, beautiful project , can you give me the characteristics (seller)of the aluminum profiles used as well as the linear rails slide rails used for the project thank you and congratulations
Thank you very much. All the parts you mention are salvaged parts from machinery we have dismantled at work, so unfortunately I cannot help you with any useful information
Ser knall bra ut :) hvor har du kjøpt skinnene?
Takk Jan. Var noe jeg demonterte på noe maskiner på jobb som skulle kasseres.
1:41 Did I miss a part where you made the two edges parallel? If so, how did you get them to be parallel?
Are you thinking of this 4:01
Bellevue Woodshop no, you used a squat to make the linear blocks perpendicular to the leading/trailing edges of the gantry plates yet you never showed that you made them parallel so putting a square on both sides didn’t make sense because if they’re not parallel, you’d get different results. 1:40
@@IcanCwhatUsay Ahaa. Now I understand what you mean. The distance between the 2 rails are far longer than the on on the X axis,, hence it has a little more room for it to be off. I used the square to get it in the ballpark. The holes was driled 1mm oversized for adjustments. I cannot really remember how i lined them up when I installed it,. It was 2,5 years ago. Sorry I cannot provide you with a more accurate information
Did you use wood router bits & drill bits?
Yes Sir😀👍
How much was the total build?
@@Grympel Not sure as had salvaged most of the parts. I purchased a couple of ballscrews, the steppers and the spindle. I would guess 400-500usd
Cool :)
Thanks
Nice job man im trying to build one of those too and i like the profile u used in the gantry what kind of alum extrusion is that i've being trying to find it but im new in the field so i dont know names can u help me out a bit
Thank you. It is actually the housing of a linear actuator that I slimmed down. It used to house the massive ballscrew for the X axis. you can see me cutting it down here: 3:23
@@bellevuesnekkeri thanks for the answer bro
Thanks a lot I will try my luck if needed can I contact u pls
where do you get the measuements for each thing
I just build it on the fly, from the top of my head to suit the parts I have. No plans.
Hi, I am also designing a desktop CNC milling machine with working area around 200 X 200 X 40 mm.
Here i am facing a problem here. However i have compketed the most of the design. When it comes to force analysis i have no clue how force will act on machine parts during milling process.
I belive the forces depends on the material and spindle properties. But i dont know any formulae. Could please suggest me any book or material ?.
Hi. I am sorry, I do not have any knowledge of force analysis. I just built mine a sturdy as I could, and hoped for the best. For wood it is plenty rigid. Have not testet on non ferrous metals yet. I wish you all the best on your build
@@bellevuesnekkeri Thank you. I must tell you that, your machine is Amazing.
Outstanding! Are you available for freelance consulting?
Thank you Joe. Well, I just kinda do this for fun on my spare time......which is very limited, so I´ll have to pass on the offer, unfortunately. Sorry about that
Thank you sir, I have been watching all your videos for hours now! In appreciate you taking the time to reply, and probably could not afford you- (worth at least $250.00 an hour, and that is probably a gross underestimation) If somehow you find time, i would love to collaborate on water-jet technology.
ruclips.net/video/z7dG1MKJhFE/видео.html
That is a link to my first sketchup/timelapse/blackmagic .
@@MrJoeblack9 Well thank you very much Joe for taking the time to watch and for the generous feedback. Han in there for some more stuff on the way. I am publishing a new video in the next couple of months featuring my new fully automatic table saw. You can get a sneak peak here: instagram.com/bellevuewoodshop/
Hello, I am writing from Turkey. Are there any Cad files related to your cnc?
hello. Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately there are no plans avaialable
@@bellevuesnekkeri
Have a chance to make a plan? My brother and I are dealing with this business. We request CNC from you, please.
@@melihbayram1 It is extremely time consuming to make plans, and this one was built from parts I already had salvaged. So it would not make sense to make plans for it. Sorry about that
Hi
Great CNCrouter build
What is that large aluminium profile
your using on the Y axis?
Thanks Eddie Harper
Thanks Eddie. It is a butchered Bosch Rexroth linear unit. It is what I ripped the large ballscrew for the gantry out of. Just slimmed it down a little
didn't you loose precision when using a pulley system. Precision that you gained from using a ballscrew.
These belt and pulley configs are for gearing mostly, and no, they do not affect the preciscion
What is the name of the tool?
Minute 7:45
Thanks!!
It is called a spring loaded center punch, or sometimes called automatic center punch
Price ?
It is not for sale unfortunately.
How many milimiters width are the alumum pieces?
44mm x 44mm and 44mm x 88mm
@@bellevuesnekkeri I refer to the arms of the machine, the thickness
@@baladocustomguitars73 Arms?
@@bellevuesnekkeri The two lateral pieces that support the housing ball screw and the axis, sorry, don't know the name of these pieces...
@@baladocustomguitars73 Gantry sides are 15mm thick
Noise is too much
Do you have the parts design?
Unfortunately there are no plans available for this project Rodney
I thought he did wood??
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you can just build me one lol hahhahah
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😥😑I can't understand.
Sorry about that
@@bellevuesnekkeri Iam not in this stream. So don't feel sorry! 😌
Hi, I'm following you from Libya. A beautiful and successful construction project. Highly qualified. You really are a wonderful man
Thank you for the kind feedback and thanks for watching. Greetings from Norway
Your mechanical fitting skills are top notch. I've seen many CNC build videos, but your are the only ones which shows how to correctly align linear guides and the ball screw. Very impressive.
Thank you very much for the generous feedback, It is much appreciated.
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Wow, what a project! Can't wait for the next part! Thanks for sharing :-)
Livehack: Building a CNC by yourself is very timeconsuming. Get yourself a CNC to build most parts of the CNC much quicker.
What is learned by just buying something? This is not going to be something large and complicated to build. The experience of building something from scratch, troubleshooting any problems, and having the machine work as intended is priceless.
there is nothing wrong with this idea. if you buy a standard machine you will still learn to build a cnc machine by optimizing a few weak parts or fo creating a whole new build up. during this process the standard machine is helping you to build complex parts which can not made by a drilling machine or handmade because of precision for example.
by the way i enjoyed the video. i like
wont be his bb then
lol.. guess no one got it was a joke, lol
LOL, whilst i like the idea of using tape to secure parts together to allow for drilling through from one part to another. I would have used clamps, or better still after drilling one hole insert a bolt at the least and a nut to clamp it, then go to furthest away hole and do the same. Should stop any wiggling from just using the tape alone, make sure holes are matching as good as can be with that procedure.
👨💻TechPorn 😲 don't get much better than this 👍 Brilliant work to watch 👉oz🐨straya 🕺cheers !
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HI. Looks like it would Have good stiffness. Nice job. Check out my first video.
What should the distance be between the router collet and the waste board.
Hi. There are no perfect height between these. Basically you want as much as you can, BUT that again you will then need to compensate with more rigidity . But normally 100-150mm works out. then you can have a 50-60mm bit and still be able to clear over a 100 thick workpiece
Hello. Is it a good idea to use double angular contact bearings, on top and bottom, like fixed - fixed (bottom bearing without nut and collars to have a floating bearing arrangement) bearing on z axis eith a 1.500 mm stroke??
Both X and Y axis have floating bearings. The large one has thrust bearings on fixed end. The other one it just 2 regular bearings pressed against each other. Z axis is short enough to leave out the and bearing. Hope this made sense? Thanks for watching