Which GENERATION stereotype are you?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Talking 'bout the generations. Zoomer, Boomer, Millennial or Silent, they all have various culturasl cliches associated with them, but which category
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I (gen z) was recently having a discussion with a millennial friend who told me that millennials grew up optimistic only to have their dreams crushed, while zoomers never really had any optimistim to begin with. It's an over generalization sure, but still food for thought.
I'm more see it like this if I go around saying I want to die around a group of Zoomers they'll know what I mean but if I say it around a group of millennials they're probably going to put me in some sort of watchlist
@Don C Depending what kind of dream it is that's easier said than done
@@sandersgeorges If that's how they a millennial would react wouldn't that be seen as some sort of issue?
Wtf what all of you saying I’m gen z and idk what you saying
@@ibranmlr6139 if I'm being completely honest me neither
I’d say the generational trauma of the Great Depression definitely still affects my family today. My grandparents lived through the Depression and passed those values on to my father who is constantly worried about having enough money. This shrewdness about money was then passed onto me as a millennial.
My family is the same, all four grandparents were born in the early depression and were teenagers durring WW2 and watched some of their older friends never come home from overseas. It's funny because in the extended family you can still see whose parents embraced the exuberence of the 80's/90's and who who didn't by how they behave now.
My grandpa was like that. He was an expert at reusing things and refused to throw things out just in case they'd be useful. Thing is he usually actually used the.
This hits home. I was born in 97 to a parents from 64 from grandparents from 1930 (yeah, takes a while for us to have kids, I know). Money has always been tight, even if it isn't on paper.
I feel that, my dad's dad spent his teen years riding the rails around Ontario-Saskatchewan doing odd jobs like farm work etc during the depression, and picked up this habit of DIY fixing everything, which was passed on to my dad as a hoarding tendency ("oh I can use these to fix XYZ") which in turn manifested in me a chronic hesitance to throw anything out, even though it's useless or I won't ever use it again
In your case too, you also saw the Great Recession as I did too as a fellow Millennial. I believe that likely helped shaped your outlook on economics too.
As a 21 year old (which I guess would place me near the beginning of Gen Z), Tiktok is my first experience of feeling too old for something. I know a lot of other people my age use it, but it just feels like something for people younger than me and that's one reason why I can't get into it.
I also feel the same being 21. It’s weird because I remember Vine and there were lots of 20 somethings on it at the time (middle school and high school days).
i really don't see the appeal...it just reminds me of old youtube when average people would upload "skits" except it's just mouth the words of some random pop song or something. It looks like absolute garbage, yet zoomers like to call us millenials "uncool" yeah okay...
I like watch the videos, but I wouldn't make them. My favorite app is YT
@@kylem1112 tiktok will always be garbage
@@hamiamsandwitch6571well i don't like the way it looks. it's feels all jerky and sped up. I'm sure it's not just teenagers lip syncing to pop songs. but it makes me feel like i'm on ritalin watching it.
Here in Brazil the USA style cohort names (boomers, millenials, zoomers, etc.) aren't really a thing. As a very active Catholic, however, it's not unusual in our circles to name generations after who was the Pope when they were baptised; I myself am of the JPII Generation. I'm not sure if only Brazilian Catholics do that, or not, but I assume it's an exclusively Catholic thing.
That’s actually really cool, I converted to Catholicism in June of 2020 but was baptized in a Disciples of Christ church in 2005, I’m not really sure of the month because that would make me either JPII or Benedictan
well obviously brazil & american history are very different but pope generations are stupid they don't change shit about the people
Funny you should say that. As a Brazilian myself, living in Rio de Janeiro my whole life, and having grown up in a widely non-practicing nominally Catholic family, I find that North American-style generation names, specifically Baby Boomers, Generation X, Millennials and Generation Z, are actually very commonplace. It comes up a lot in conversation about such topics, and I have never, in my whole life, heard of this Pope and Baptism-related system of naming generations.
I was raised catholic in Mexico and I've never heard about this, so it might be a Brazilian thing. Nevertheless, I think is a little unfair, considering how long was the JPII era, is like saying you were born during the reign of Elizabeth II... That's pretty much everyone older than 1 year old now 😂
"I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I am isn't it, and what is seems weird and scary to me"
It will happen to you
Im 33 and it did
No way man! We're gonna keep rockin' forever!
But everything changed when I entered my 30s...
@@anthonydelfino6171 I'm kind of curious how music will change now that we have spotify and RUclips, since music doesn't seem to focus so much on genres since anyone can upload music
I used to be without it, but then they changed what it was. And now I'm with it? 🤷
I'm talking about vidya
I'm an Xennial. What currently is the "is" stuff certainly is weird, but zoomers are too wimpy too be scary. The "it" is more along the lines of something which makes me cringe, and occasionally laugh while sometimes feeling sympathy (or pity), and sometimes contempt.
I just think of myself as an 80’s kid and 90’s teen. That means I straddle X and Millennial so it doesn’t make sense to me at all.
I love your channel. Keep up the great work. 😄
Of all people i didn't expect to see you lmfao
Mike, I didn’t realise you were such a big JJ fan!
You comment on so many videos
You're not millennial.
So then you are the sub-generation of Xennial
As an iraqi zoomer it's really interesting because all I've ever known is political instability whilst my parents, who were born in 1970, grow up in a really prosperous Iraq (that changed in the 90s though). I guess be both have generational trauma but their lives have not been definied by it.
I hope you are doing well. I can’t relate since I live in the US and although my parents lived in Honduras during its war with El Salvador and all the chaos in Central America in the 80s, they were never in poverty so they never faced the worse of the military government. I also hate how so many of my fellow Americans think the past was so great when it wasn’t in other countries. Was Your family okay when Iraq was at war with Iran in the 80s? Is there any hope for Iraq to avoid the influence of the US or Iran?
@@ricardobarahona3939 you're right. I'm Italian-Peruvian and while in Italy the 1980s were relatively a decade of abundance and prosperity (compared to the political instability of the 70s), it was probably one of the worst decades for Perú, and Latin America in general, to the point of being called "la década perdida" (the lost decade).
@@marcello7781 Is Peru getting better? It seems much nicer then Honduras, a country where much of my family is trying to leave due to the narco-dictatorship. I hear that there was a crisis where there was multiple presidents due to a president getting kicked out and the interim one resigning due to protests, what’s that about?
My family is from Iraq too, we got out before 1980s. But I too though about my cousins who had to go through the wars.
Nice profile picture :)
I was born in late 1993 and I find it funny how there seems to be a great emphasis put on being a "90s kid" by those of us born in that decade despite the fact most proper childhood cultural experiences of "90s kids" are firmly cemented in the 2000s.
I was born December 1999 so I was just barley a 90s kid but I still consumed a lot or 90s culture like Spongebob and Rugrats and Pokémon etc. Honestly the early 2000s and the late 1990s were very similar pop culture wise when you take re-runs into account.
@@skysthelimitvideos Same I was born in November 1999. I like walking through memory lane but people become quite arrogant when they put their nostalgia goggles on. People will be nostalgic of 2021 just like any other year unless they are in a terrible point I life or in a war zone. A lot of American always talk about how great the 80s were but most probably weren’t victims or family of victims of the war on drugs or weren’t in Central America where that area saw wars and death squads kill so many innocents or the were part of the Iran-Iraq war which lasted almost a decade. I enjoyed my childhood in the 2010s but that was a terrible time if you lived in Libya and Syria the country fell into war in 2011. Let’s just be grateful for our past and an present and hope to make a better future.
I was born in '84 and I always thought of myself as a 90s kid which is technically true but in reality '98-05 (14-21 yrs old) left the biggest impression on me.
True, but I still remember enough of the 90s like JJ. I was born 1991.
True, but I still remember enough of the 90s like JJ. I was born 1991.
I'm a rare case of a Millennial from a dad of the Silent Generation. The feeling of having "missed out" in World War II, was very real. Particularly the compulsion of doing something great to outshine the older generation who had fought in what was viewed as the most consequential event in the history of humanity. My father joined the army in the hopes of some conflict with "the Cossacks" in the 1950s. When that didn't pan out, he joined the Foreign Service. He ended up going from the Dust Bowl of Alberta during the Depression to a wealthy Canadian Ambassador, but when he died he still had this sense of disappointment at having missed out in what he saw was a moral conflict. He still talked about the War a fair chunk of the time in his final years.
I think that non-standard generational situation makes for some interesting cultural influences. My father and grandfather both had children late in life, which is how I as a Gen X-er has a grandfather who enlisted as a doughboy in WW1 so he could buy his sharecropper father his own farm. I grew up with an oral history that stretches back to the late 19th century.
That's amazing, both of yall must have a lot of interesting stories.
Same. With the additional thing of my parents being born 5 years apart. Late dad was a Silent/Silent Boom (I also believe in the transitional generations - generational labels between the actual gens) and Mom is a boomer.
I'm the case of a zoomed raised by boomers so I've been tryna to catch up to my fellow zoomers these past few years and I'm finally at 21 understanding some of it
I have a Silent Generation dad and Gen X mom, but both are African immigrants. However, one experienced childhood with British colonialism and the other life after colonialism. They're both pretty traditional and I feel kinda meet in the middle with a stereotypical Boomer mentality, lol.
In France, most of the people born after 2000 would ask what year you were born in in opposition to age or grade. We also refer to each other as years like « yeah, he’s a 2004 »
The older generations find this quite odd
huh that's pretty interesting for the time i lived in russia we didn't do that and no one does it in canada either
Italian here, we do the same thing
In Finland we do this as well, not just people born after 2000 but mid/late 90s as well. I'm not sure about older.
I still remember some specific stereotypes about certain years or the way they were viewed/treated when I was a teen. I'm a 97, and I always felt like 96s were really scary and intimidating, 95s were like these cool older sibling types. 99s had an annoying superiority complex for barely managing being born in the 90s, 00s were babies and the butt of every joke because they were unfortunate enough to not be born in the 90s. "What are you, like a 00 or a 01 or something ?" was used as an insult all the time.
it is odd
We do the same thing in sweden, but it's something that every generation does so nobody really finds it that strange. I think it makes it easier for people to distinguish their fellow school peers who are in the same year as them from all other students. And then that system follows you throughout your adult life aswell.
'Each generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it.' - George Orwell
We're just getting more stupid
Wassup Tibet?
when we get old we get more wisdom.
Although it's not really intelligence, successive generations generally know more about the world, as people become more educated and as a species we learn more.
@@eoghan.5003
Sure, we learn more, but our general knowledge of life never has and never will expand.
In Italy among younger people is very common to ask the year of birth instead of the actual age because people born in each year have very specific stereotypes attached to them, and knowing just the age of someone sometimes doesn’t mean knowing their year of birth
EACH year??
Every years seems like something that would be hard to remember is it?
We do that in Sweden to some degree too. One example of that is that ‘02 kids think that ‘03 kids are obnoxious and noisy
Are umarells a generational thing? Do you think that behavior will continue in gen-z? [Well maybe it will except the zoomer will have a podcast about their issues with the construction]
@@Carlyknarly does umarell mean retirement? If so yeah we will all work till death
My grandparents were holocaust survivors and I still have some inherited elements of it. All of their parents were murdered when they were quite young and they had no model of parenting behaviour so when they raised my parents, they didn't really do normal things like hugging their children because they were never hugged.
My parents modelled after their parents and raised me in a similarly odd way. I'm kinda hoping to break the chain of neurosis
bruh that is fucking heartbreaking I wish you all the luck with your future family
My maternal grandfather was a Holocaust survivor it messed him and his children very much. He became a violent alcoholic and my grandmother had to divorce him to protect herself and her children. She also lost her parents and her extended family in the war which left her with a lot of psychological damage that she was never treated for. That said she was the most caring and loving person I ever met. My mother and her sister were themselves very affected by being raised in a household with so much loss and such extremes in their parents.
@@przemekkozlowski7835 it really was terrible. My grandparents would always be weeping during the high holidays because they were taken during pesach.
My grandmother was only a child. She survived because her train was rerouted to Vienna for slave labour rather than Auschwitz. Her mother lamented that she couldn't kill herself because she had to take care of my grandma.
One story my mum used to tell me was of how her father beat her for wearing high heels because it sounded like the boots of the Hungarian officers who had captured him during the war when she walked down the stairs. Those officers tortured him by making him climb the stairs of a tower than pushing him down those stairs, breaking his hand permanently.
No shortage of horror stories. I'm just grateful I live in Canada where thank goodness we do not need to live under such conditions.
The chain ends with you
@@misspikapika7972 Y'know there's one thing I wish I'd mentioned in my original comment in retrospect since J.J. ended up featuring it. I think it's important to remember that after the war, there weren't any therapists. You went through hell and you just went back to work. I think we are very fortunate today to have access to so much mental health support. It certainly helps me contextualize my experiences in a healthy way.
Being an older Gen X'er (1969- ), I remember that before the book came out labelling us that way, our generation was often referred to as the "Baby Bust" for the return to smaller family sizes that succeeded the Post-WWII baby boom. It was a tremendous missed opportunity to call us the "Baby Busters". :)
The most poignant thing I hear and feel about Gen X'ers is that because there are so few of us compared to surrounding generations, other generations don't spend much time thinking about Gen X'ers at all, but Gen X'ers spend A LOT of time thinking about themselves. It may be a stereotype, but I think both sides of that stereotype seems to have a fair grain of truth to them.
Great video, as per usual, J.J.!
You, like myself (late 1970) are in the epicentre of Gen-X, 13th Gen. Baby Bust, a term I heard in passing but didn't adopt. As a teen I felt jealous of the Grownups and thought East L.A c1960 was Paradisiacal. We were working class 2d 3d & 4th generation Americans.
As a paraguayan zoomer Ive always found very interesting how generations work differently depending on the country, the silent generation here usually grew up very very poor, we had a war with Bolivia wich brought national pride but at the same time would cause even more economic issues; the boomer genereation also grew up poor and would have to endure the early phase of our longuest dictatorship, they're very conservative and christian and of course tons of siblings, we have a lot of relatives due to that. The Gen x's on the other hand grew up during the epicenter of the dictarship, however a lot of them would start to rebel, they were the first who started to recieve a ton of american pop culture influence like in music or fashion; the millenials saw first the end of our dictarship, the return of democracy and our economy recovery little by little, culture an technology was of course gettin bigger and bigger but since we were still a poor country it was years behind what was going on in North America or Europe. Finally we gen z, thanks to the internet would experience a masssive change in terms of society, conomics and politics, our way of thinking is a whole new thing for our elders, we still have to endure with a lot of bad conservative ideas that sadly still remain, but year by year things change fast, luckily one day we will elect leaders who would care at least a bit about their people and not themselves and of coursen end corruption step by step and keep growing our economy
Great video JJ, btw
I’m curious how we will look back on COVID as a generation thing, most Zoomers are in their teen years and those seem to be the years that shape us the most culturally. On the other hand, melenials are probably the ones going to be the most economically affected by it, and might see it in a similar way to how the silent generation and older boomers saw the Great Depression
lol leave it to a zoomer to think that your teenage years are your most formative..
@@brain4154 Just going off what music, shows, people etc. People seem to be attached to, yeah, I’d say the teen years are very influential on us culturally. But what do I know? I’m just a Zoomer
Boomers weren't born until AFTER the depression (and WW2) were over.
So they have no direct memories of it.
@@alanlight7740 I suppose so, I was more referring to people born in the late 30s and 40s, who were still being affected by the Great Depression, even though they weren’t around for most of it
As someone who has had to witness a massive amount of kids who have skipped the first two years of high school, it GREATLY affected them
There's a common characteristic for all generations. They say theirs is the best 😀😎👍
Well it's objectively true that Zoomers are the best.
My generation sucks, atleast we are a bit better than the millenials though
Two words:
Generation Alpha
Some sensible zoomers know that there’s no way in heck that (at least not yet) they’re the best generation.
I'm an older millennial but I romanticized Gen X thanks to the music scene and indy films...but a lot of Gen X today is evolving into the worst aspects of the Gen X generation, so my rose tinted glasses are gone.
In Russia, a lot of generations are usually split by when they were born, because often the dictators at the helm of the country where there for long periods of time. I’m part of the Putin generation (born in 2003), my older brother was part of the Yeltsin/ 90’s generation (born in 1988), and my mom is part of the Brezhnev generation (born in 1968).
My generation is known as the one that’s good with gizmos, and “has no respect for the fallen in WW2”. Also we by far have travelled way more on average than all of the other generations, due to how open Russia has been during our time. Also we are more likely to know English at some sort of basic level.
My older brothers generation, by older generations, is known as the ones corrupted by “western trash” - to clarify, stuff like porn (websites), junk food, alcohol, tobacco, which was regulated heavily by the Soviet Union, whereas in the 90’s it wasn’t uncommon to see teens engaging in these activities since there was no regulation all of a sudden. By younger generations they are known as the ones that had the most freedom within Russia, since they had a lot more press freedom and what not back then, and stuff was less regulated.
My moms generation is remembered as the freest one in the Soviet Union, as you could make jokes about Brezhnev and not be sent to gulag (which was nice).
Putin’s generation, however, ended up being in their 40’s around the 90’s. This was problematic, because they still had a decade till retirement, and all of a sudden the country radically changed. This led to a massive spike in people who are nostalgic for the predictability of the Soviet Union, which you can observe in politicians such as Putin and Lukashenko. They also think within the paradigm of the Cold War, because of their nostalgia.
Just watched JJ video with your comment and went to say hello to a compatriot and praise your comment which gives a really good picture to a foreigner!
Hope you are doing well in these dire times!
This comment explains so much. Thank you.
Thank you for explaining this
I live in Poland, so a country that only recently got "westernized" and experienced technological development, and so, despite being born in a mid-gen-Z year of 2003, the experiences stereotypically associated with "90's kids" and other millenials still heavily applied to my childhood. For example now the kids get their first phones when theyre like 6 or even youger, meanwhile i hadnt had a phone until middle school and a smartphone until i started high school.
Interesting what you said about germany. My grandfather was born in munich in 1947 moved around the world, finally settling in dc in 1978. My mom and her siblings definitely grew up with the strange impact of the war, being bullied for being a "jerry" in school often. He also had multiple behavioral disorders, like depression and bipolar, which was 100% exastrubated by the environment that he grew up in (no playgrounds, just rubble and old guns, and very abusive parents). These sicknesses also permeated through to my mom and her siblings, who grew up going back to germany in the summers where their step-grandfather (high-up nazi) terrorised everybody around. Also interesting is that my grandmother, who grew up in woodbridge ontario in the 1950s, inherited a very hippie mindset as the flipside result of the war. I think my grandfather fell in love with her because it was an escape from the world that he grew up in. Ironically, I remember getting called an "ami" by an old german man in a derogatory way while hiking in the alps when i was young. Overall, germany is complicated and that generation born right after the war inherited a world that wanted to beat them down and a lifetime of guilt.
I feel like location plays a huge role when it comes to different generations. I was born in 1998 but have more in common with millennials than zoomers. In Qatar, we got everything super late compared to the west, and being in a lower-middle-class family didn't help either. I grew up on NES super Mario, VHS, no internet (got dial-up when I was like 9), no mobile phones etc.
What were your grandparents like
@@JJMcCullough my parents had me in their late 40s and immigrated to Qatar soon after. So I have little to no memory about my grand parents from my father's side as they passed away when I was 2 or 3. But from what I heard they were very hard working farmers and the biggest challenge was getting enough food. They were raising 6 kids in post war bangladesh, couldn't have been easy. On my mother's side it was pretty much the same story, they were farmers too. But they didn't struggle as much for food as they lived next to a river with fertile lands. This definitely lead to post generation trauma for my dad, I remember my dad being super strict about not wasting any food when I was younger and him always saying " I don't know about other things but I will never ever let the family struggle for food". This definitely rubbed into me and I very rarely waste any food if any at all.
As someone born in 97, I love to tease my older co-workers about not recognising things which used to be very popular back in late 90s/00s. It's very much in line with Spider-man calling Empire Strikes Back a very old movie, which made many Marvel fans feel old.
That’s kind of weird because I wouldn’t call Star Wars old just now, typically when I think old I think black and white like movies from the 40s, 70-80 years ago. That said, it’s all perception of time and one can think that inception is old since it’s at least 10 years old. I’m saying this even though I was born in 1999 and I’m younger then Tom Holland (What he said was part of the writer and I doubt he would see the movie as too old).
@@ricardobarahona3939 my rule of thumb is, if something feels dated when you watch it again it(technically or thematically) it's old. In that case Shrek is something which doesn't feel like an old movie yet, cos it has decent 3d animation and fair tails with fart jokes are timeless.
@@TheKmanKVSC Shrek is pretty timeless, memes of Shrek were made years after the movies were made. I guess timelessness can work in certain fictional media like Star Wars and Star Trek.
@@ricardobarahona3939 imo, both OG Trilogy and Prequals are in the "old movie" list now. Just because CGI looks very dated. We can still appreciate them for how ahead of time some of the effects were.
@@TheKmanKVSC The CGI does look old in the prequels but the world building is great.
I think there was another RUclips who made the claim that the closer you are to the transition points of the generational barriers, the more likely you are to find the concept of generations to be ridiculous.
That's me, and I do, so some generalizations are correct!
That actually might give some credibility to the generational identity. If you're in the middle a generation, you're more likely to identify with its stereotypes, so also more likely to agree with the groupings. On the other hand, it also show that the groupings are arbitrary, and generational identity is more of a gradient than boxes with transition points.
@@KarlSnarks Generational identity is baloney
Speaking to your commentary on generational trauma, here's my 2 cents:
When generational trauma was first proposed as a mainstream concept back in the 1990s, it was largely accepted or embraced because it was used as a way to explain some of the psychological and neurological issues affecting children and grandchildren of Holocaust survivors.
It seems we're only now seeing pushback against the concept of generational trauma when someone applies it to Americans descended from slaves or African Americans. Now, it would appear that fewer people are willing to give the idea credence if it can be used to understand or recognize possible psychological issues for people of African descent. Which I have to admit is very telling in how we choose to see psychological trauma, as well as reveals a bias in viewing African Americans as capable of bearing the effects of an institution that still affects them to this day.
The argument against the idea that African Americans are not being affected by generational trauma connected to slavery appears to based on the idea that once slavery ended, all forms of trauma that were connected to that institution disappeared. But we know for a fact that this isn't true. From Jim Crow to lynching to prison exploitation to segregation to economic disenfranchisement, all of these markers born from the US institution of slavery affected African Americans for generations. And arguably, has led to passing along generational trauma that has had a significant impact on their collective and individual psyches.
You conveniently left out the factor that many black people today are using the concept of generational trauma as moral justification for being hateful, discriminatory, and violent towards people whose only sin is having the same skin color as their ancestors' slaveowners.
I could buy that Jim Crow does have some kind of effect like this since there's people alive that lived through it, but claiming that something that happened over 150 years ago has the same effect seems silly to me.
I also just hate all the psycho theories leftists claim are somehow scientifically proven when their theories are quite impossible to prove, or even adequately support
I get it. As far as slave ownership goes in the USA, it has only been a blink of an eye since it was an accepted institution. Appearance still creates a reaction in many individuals without cause or observation of dubious behavior. It truly worries me that 40 years ago the percentage of our population of American born citizens who were black was about 13% and that percentage is the same today. It terrifies me that some country, group, or entity is manipulating some grotesque form of population control based on appearance. If we look at the bigger picture, any American group can be marginalized within a few generations based on nothing but our inconvenience to some other country or group. I believe we have to treat each other with respect, only sell our land to ourselves, and back each other up. Ethnicity should not be used to humiliate us or effect our birthright. WE own this for good or bad. Our choice.
i feel like there’s something sort of like generational trauma in white people in america today, where we subconsciously believe black people deserve harsher punishments for crimes, see black children as older than they are, racial biases like that.
I think generational experiences also have a lot to do with the specific familial environment you are raised in. For example, both of my parents were born in 1964, which is usually regarded as the last year of the boomer generation, but my mom was the first of five kids and my dad was the last of five. So my mom has a lot of the cultural experiences of a gen x-er because her younger siblings and my dad has a lot of the cultural experiences of a boomer because of his older siblings, the oldest of whom was 17 years older than him. It certainly is much more nuanced than people make it seem.
This.
its also important to not how old your parents were when you were born as well.
Mine were pretty young and thus I share a lot stuff with them while my sister didn't so much.
All of this, yes. My parents had me at an age I would personally consider very young, but is pretty normal for their generation and location (we're from Texas, they're in their early 50's). They were in their early 20's so they were still pretty immersed in current pop culture during my childhood, which resulted in me being very pop-culture savvy, at least about the things they were into. At the same time, I was the oldest of two kids, plus the oldest of probably 6 cousins who all grew up very close, and the gap between me and my brother was the largest gap in the group (3 years), which meant I was often left "in charge" of a large group of much younger kids. Plus I wasn't permitted to spend much if any time outside of school or daycare with friends until I was much older.
So I grew up both watching movies and tv shows that my Gen-X parents liked, such as Buffy and Star Wars, but also ended up being at least familiar with a lot of cartoons that were "too young" for me. I'm pretty firmly in the mid-millennial age grouping but often feel that gen-z divide because most of the people I was around "socially" were my gen-z cousins, and have a pretty firm grasp on Gen-X culture as well because of watching what my parents were watching. And listening to! As a kid, I didn't realize there were genres of music other than classic rock and contemporary country. Some kids at my daycare listened to The Spice Girls and I'd never heard anything like it.
@@KaiserMattTygore927 Mine were pretty old and the best part was that it wasn't I who shared a lot of stuff with my parents, but rather THEY who shared a lot of stuff with me.
I have to say, I really respect your video format. You take a cultural phenomenon, examine it from your personal and cultural stand point, examine the idea, and then you get a whole nother video that next week to take a tour through viewers' experience of the same phenomenon. Absolutely a delight
Funny you mention John Green’s thoughts on TikTok considering how both him and Hank are blowing up on the platform as of late. Let’s all appreciate the fact that both of the Green brothers can somehow keep with the times while still being themselves.
well, tiktok has changed. not for the better but to accomodate for more diverse groups of people and a wider age range. because of its size theres pretty much shit for everyone ther and as long as you dont fall into some weird bubbles youre fine.
@Mario Walker904 Now so many people are on it and many have found success. Analytically, it’s easier to gain success on Tiktok since it’s a newer social media app compared to more established platforms like RUclips or Instagram. I only watch some TikToks for comedy like I only watched the comedy section of Vine.
I think John Green got popular fast solely because of Crash Course World History which I'm certain 80% of the kids on TikTok have seen
@@williamking6787 So many kids saw John Green’s videos because teachers like sharing his videos. Nice guy! Also like his brothers content.
I really hate both of them. They're the kind of guys who got bullied in school and deserved it.
JJ, my much older brother is about your age (born in 1986), and I was born in late 1997. This sounds silly, but a big generational difference between us is that he grew up as a little kid playing 2D linear Mario games, while I grew up as a little kid playing 3D open World Mario games. We both grew up as huge Mario fans (like yourself!), and sometimes him and I ponder to what degree growing up in these distinct Mario eras affected how we think and problem solve
I feel like having played the original Mario games and then all the way up to what we have now gave me a very linear understanding of technological progress. Like, an assumption that all technological change is very incremental and builds narrowly upon what came before. NES to SNES to N64 to Wii
@@JJMcCullough It's kind of amazing to me how fast we got to 3D video games in a way: the distance in time between the Magnavox Odyssey and Super Mario 64 is the same as between Super Mario 64 and today. Someone in 2021 could think a game from 2011 was brand new at first glance (or even maybe 2006), something which I definitely couldn't say for someone in 2000 and probably not someone in 2010.
@@TheAlexSchmidt I think only someone that isnt familiar to videogames, if you take a look at Skyrim today its easy to see it is 10 years old.
I’m literally on the line between millennial and Zoomer, I don’t know what I’m supposed to identify as but whatever it is old people hate me.
Same here, though zoomer confuses me. More relate to millennials and, paradoxically, “boomers”…they had some great cartoons and pop culture
Sameness I’m a millennial but I was born in 93 and I didn’t fully connect with both generations.
I’m on the gen x millennial borderline. So I hear ya.
It's called a Cusper (nasty ass name ik) I'm in the same boat, but I def see myself as an older zoomer.
@@Markyroson zoomers are from 1997-2009 they normally mixed in with gen alpha (or the fort night kids) this confusion leads to many annoyed people. Zoomers are normally called zoomer since in 2000s there was a huge technology boom has something new came out every year not counting the internet started to get big with new ideas every day (start of youtube).
Gen alpha I say is the consumer generation has companies became extremely soulless and new ideas are destoryed left and right. Leading to a far less interesting environment only seeking to steal your money. Not counting the INSANE amount of nostalgia baiting. Most people blame this on the zoomers even though their generation started in the 90s.
Like wise zoomers are also the doomed generation, has they grew up in time that lets say was not so friendly. Leading many people growing up and hearing how nothing matters, their all going to die anyways, how college will fuck you over, how life is unfair and you never gonna own a home. Leading to surprise surprise a increase in suicide, to point the government stepped in to try curve the amount of deaths. Of course many grew up reliezing that world burning down anyways why not have fun.
I remember watching this video when it came out and it really opened my eyes to broader conversations around generations. Being Gen-Z myself I grew up constantly hearing people talk about millennials to the point where I thought that just referred to a young person. It’s fun to see zoomers being the new kids and I think you do a good job about talking about them which I feel isn’t very common among older people. I was very inspired by this video to talk about what defines Gen-Z on my own channel and I have JJ to thank for getting me interested :)
In South Africa we call kids born after the end of Apartheid “born frees”
I was born in 1993 so on the bubble and it was so odd growing up knowing what your parents and grandparents saw. I can’t imagine what hardcore overt state-sponsored racism must do to a person. It’s hard to ask the kind of questions that would help you understand.
"Born frees" never heard of this
so how you call white kids born in SA around 2015? born lynched?
It is really weird, if my parents (who are white) ever speak about it they always say stuff, such as "they didnt really know" and such, but when apartheid was still in place they were in their twenties, and me at 16 can recognise racism and inequality and such. But then again, being so connected to the internet I have information on other cultures and people different from me in much more detail, in addition to being in an environment where I have diverse friendship groups, mentors etc.
Growing in a catholic hispanic family meant that my parents would always talk about distant relatives that i never heard of and when i told them, they couldn't understand how that was possible lol. I think many of the characteristics will depend on the socio-economic status, growing as a zoomer in a lower class family meant that i didn't have access to the internet, videogames or a lot of media at a young age, it was only when i became a teenager when i was introduced into this sorts of things, as many families in Peru, that only managed to get out of the difficult econmic situation from the 80s and 90s in the late 2000s and early 10s
fellow peruvian zoomer watching jj, pog
@@gaymoder épico
Same story in catholic Philippines
I like the term zillenial, the old gen z and young millennials together growing up together with new technology in a unique way
That describes me. Zillenial. I am older Zoomer and/or younger millennial that seen the rise of Internet. Windows XP my first laptop & PS2 my first console. RUclips & Minecraft are for me but TikTok or Fortnite aren't for me.
As a person who was born in 2001 this describes me
Reminds me of that Will Smith CD
Being from 2002 and people talking in categories like Milennials and Gen-z is such nonsense. No, I don't get all of your 90's references, let alone 80's but I absolutely do not relate to the 12-year-olds of now. In just 7 years between these two groups, so much happened and so much things changed so quickly. It's crazy.
I've finally found the ideal term for me. Thanks!
You really nailed that point about not having so many family members to have drama with. I always felt like I was missing out on something when hearing my parents and especially grand parents talk about all it their cousins and aunts and things.
I'm a zoomer, and my parents were born around the same time as you J.J., with their parents around the same time. I grew up with a lot of things my parents did, like: VHS and Cassette tapes, 90s Nick and CN shows, Grunge music, etc. However, I don't really feel like I relate to other zoomers. Maybe it's because I've been homeschooled, but I feel like I connect more with people from other generations.
That "catholic family" comment was super relatable to me. While my parents both have a rather average amount of siblings, my grandparents had a ton, which resulted in mind-boggling stuff like my mother having somewhere between 35 and 50 cousins (no one can remember exactly how many), and my family being rather matriarchal in terms of family structure, since most of the men in my family who lived in the first half of the 20th century died in WW2.
I was going to mention, growing up in the US in a Mormon family was very similar.... except they still have pretty large families. Both my parents came from families of 8 children and I think I have somewhere in the range of 100 first cousins (I literally don't even know them all, it's just too many people at that point to have any meaningful relationship with) But most of my cousins I do know have far fewer children than our parents or grandparents did.
Im sorry to say this, in case of some extended family (like you guys and mine too i guess) with so many branch of family members & tons cousins ... did you ever thought the chances of you, or your kid(s) will accidentally fall in love & married with others distance cousins ?
I only knew & familiar with 4 of my Cousins ( 1/4 of my dad family ), and almost non of my Cousin in my mother family ( which roughly is double the size from my dad side). Both family live almost across the country, including abroad. Some already have there own kid(s) which made me-self feel so old already, despised im just 22. One time in a family reunion, my Grand-father-cousin give everyone a copy of the Family Tree (of my mothers), which he has collected & document it for a couple years. I was quite shock ... and amazed by his work. He even left a spot for me ... to add our own kids in the future.
( He was a really nice person, he has a parrot who can call each people by there name to noiced us when guest came, owned a huge, scary & black-fur dog ... that i riden like a horse when i was a small kid (he said), i only knew i stolen my Great Grand-mother walking stick to chase that dog, however. The poor dog still remembered me, he ran to the neighbor house all the time when i came to visit ... last time he got chained to stay in-door so he barked me insteed. Fair enough. )
I'm an indian catholic so i can confirm that my parents and my grandparents have 9 -12 siblings and i have 2 😊
Do you live in the panhandle of India where a lot of Christians live?
@@bnbcraft6666 why
i think all Indians regardless of religion who are mostly from an affluent or even semi-affluent urban class can relate
I'm Nepali. Dad is one of 6, his father was one of eight. But now everyone only has one or two kids.
@@akshatmardikar1195 just wondering
I’m a zoomer (born in 2004) and both my parents are Gen Xers who had me later in life. They immigrated to Canada from Egypt (Dad) and Japan (Mom) and on the surface fit a pretty typical stereotype of immigrants who came here in the 80’s-90’s, though what’s interesting is that since my parents come from drastically different cultures, our understanding of generational divides vary greatly, so in our household we’ve never really been like “oh, people born in the 70’s are so…” because our ideas of people born in certain eras vary so greatly.
That generational trauma you mentioned about Germany is definetily a thing as far as I can tell! Sometimes when speaking about my deceased grandfather (born in 1928) the question wether or not we can consider him a Nazi comes up and my mother (born in 1959) literally can't give an answer. She seems a) actually clueless but b) also like she's actively trying to avoid thinking too much about this topic. To be clear though, this must be a very hard situation and so I perfectly understand that trauma you mentioned... Learning about the Holocaust and the like while having fond childhood memories of your dad who was around when these things happened must be a very frustrating thing. There is a very fascinating story about the German Green Party politician and member of parliament Jürgen Trittin (born 1954), who supposedly did a trip to a former concentration camp with his father (born in 1923) when he was 15. His father is said to have told him "Look at what we have done. You must never let something like this happen again". The interresting twist: Trittin's father was a former Obersturmführer of the Waffen-SS. As far as I can tell this is rather exceptional though: It seems like "Dad, what did you think of the whole Hitler-Nazi-thing back then? :)" wasn't really something you brought up much in the 50s and 60s. In the late 60s a movement of leftist university students started questioning the apparant non-guilt of their parents' generation which led to a more open thematisation of the topic in the public. This was what happened on the streets however and I believe that in many family homes things went on as before.
On another note: The GDR also has some legacy in the cultural contact of generations: My mother was born and raised in Western Germany and whenever young people state rather left leaning political views, she will always talk about how much she fears that clueless young people who haven't whitnessed Eastern Germany's cruelties will re-establish a GDR-like gouvernment. On the one hand side I believe that whitnessing the actions of the East German state must of course engrain itself into your memory and you'll always more cautious about a potential danger if you remeber a similar danger being a big thing. On the other hand side I also believe that the heavily anti-communist sentiment of the political culture of the Adenauer-Erhard-Kiesinger-era must have left it's traces. However we are all in some way or another children of our times and I do not in any way want to put myself above my mother's generation.
By the way: Many people who lived in the GDR seem to be rather nostalgic for the "good ole days", which can be quite the disturbing culture shock within Germany to be frank. There is the term Ostalgie (East-algia as in nostalgia) for this sentiment. When going on a flee market in Dresden, Saxony I was very surprised by the massive amounts of GDR, SED and FDJ stuff people were buying and selling. This of course might be a rather noisy and shocking minority and I do not wish to provide a very negative perspective upon Eastern German people born up until the early 80ies since I have a very limited contact to this demographic and others probably know a lot more about this than I do. This is just a "Wessi"'s (colloquial, sometimes condescending term for a West German person) broad experience ;)
I grew up as an only child, fed and clothed by a poor single boomer mom in a very conservative state. She went through a lot of trauma, so I became what is known as a latchkey kid, supposedly in gen x. But I don't relate to that generation, or any one really. It’s hard to understand what my mom went through since she won’t talk about it and almost all of our family has passed away or has disowned her.
These videos are a great lense into understanding how other families live their lives and their perspectives. Thanks for doing this.
Born 1987. Middle class family in Ohio, USA. I saw internet go from Netscape Navigator to Broadband by the time I graduated high school. 9-11 was the trauma of my youth. I don't remember Desert Storm. My psyche was George W. Bush during my formative years.
Wow, we're basically generational siblings as I was also born in '87 and had the same experiences. Slight difference being I was born in the UK. I remember everyone wanting to be American/go to America to dumping on the country. What a turnaround.
@@Redrally dumbing ?
You're pretty solidly a millenial in case you're wondering
84 from a middle class family in Ontario, CA. I saw computers go from things for using Encarta in the school library to objects people actually purchased to use at home. At-home Internet was still only a "some people have" thing when I was 11-12 . 9-11 was definitely "the thing" for my immediate peers, too (I was in high school when it happened). I was vaguely aware of Desert Storm but too young to really know what was going on (at the time I allegedly had an argument with a teacher where I insisted it was actually WWII that was happening). Bush was hard to forget. I had to think for a moment to remember that Jean Chrétien was Prime Minister back then, but to be honest most of the memories that came back with his name were parodies of him done by comedy skit groups on TV.
I was pretty much absorbed with online communication via MSN Messenger (with the occasional use of AIM, ICQ and others) and with playing computer games online with my friends. That was pretty much 90% of my world from around 1998-2004 to the detriment of my studies and connection with global events.
Yeah I'm born 1988 and this is also my experience, more or less. I think it's the stereotypically "millennial" experience, which makes sense since we're in the middle of the (completely arbitrary) year ranges the armchair sociologists come up with 😛
Weirdly I find JJ's generational references here a bit ancient, and I think that goes to show how much technology (in particular) changed in such a short space of time. The internet went from almost non existent to a fixed part of our culture so quickly. While I remember a time before internet access, it was just normal all through middle and high school, and in that sense I "get" younger millennials way more than older millennials.
I'm not from a Catholic family but a Middle Eastern Muslim one and the crowded family with dozens of cousins is pretty relatable. There is a joke we say in my parent's hometown when we met someone in the gatherings: "Are you one of my cousins?"
Yeah, one time we counted how many people were in the family just downstream of our grandparents(on one side) and it was in the upper 70s
You should read your book i depth. Even in your own books it says to ask jews/christians about scriptures. Islam came around 600 years later. Plus how do u even know the bible was corrupted when u guys have no proof? That means god was irresponsible and wasnt capble to "preserve"the scriptures. Muhammed never even talked to god. You guys are following a dead man. Jesus is alive and he is god. He died on the cross for you and me. Only jesus is lord and only through him, we get to heaven.
@@misspikapika7972 We weren't talking about whether or not the Bible is corrupt
I grew up in a street in the 60's in the UK where the average family had two children or rather 2.4 children as there were more families with three children than with no children or one child. But that was lower middle class. Even my parents had just one sibling each. On the council estate half a mile away there were larger families and some of my classmates were already aunts and uncles at the age of ten as their parents married at a young age and had four or more children with the eldest children also marrying at a young age.
@@misspikapika7972
We’re talking about big families here. You should stop inserting your religious beliefs and putting down those of others into discussions about other topics. If you want to talk about religion go find a thread where people are talking about that. You’re not doing a good job of representing Christianity.
I was born in 2001, which according to most charts puts me in the early years of gen Z, bordering on millennials. And indeed, I often feel "stuck" between those 2 worlds, not fully able to relate to either. For example, I love retro gaming and most of my favorite bands are part of the nu metal, metalcore, pop punk and emo scenes that all more or less went on in the early 2000s, but the way I connect to that stuff is often different from the rest of its fanbase, mostly millennials who played these games while they were popular, and discovered all that music on Myspace or whatever, while I'm only able to enjoy that content through retrospective: my first console was the DS, and I only started browsing the web in the early 2010s, albeit still on Windows XP with a shitty connection.
Zoomers, on the other hand, seem to have very different interests and cultural elements that I'm partially oblivious to. I tend to avoid TikTok, I absolutely hate the constant hot-headed atmosphere of Twitter, I don't laugh at modern memes (by that I mean, the nonsensical deepfried memes, as opposed to the "witty" memes that used to be more widespread), my political opinions tend to be more moderate or conservative than many zoomers who are more in what I like to call the "woke" category, and in general, I feel like I'm not privy to the cultural references that kids just 2 years younger than me grew up around.
100% agree with you, especially the part about the trash teir modern memes that are dead on arrival
I guess that makes you a...Zennial? Moomer?
@@fders938 same
No sorry I'm the one bordering on millennials because I was born in 1998
2001 is solidly gen z youre just let born in the wrong generation
It’s amazing at how many generational identifiers my family so easily fit into. I was born in 1994 to a Finnish immigrant father and an American mother. My maternal grandmother and great-grandparents immigrated to the US from Germany post-WW II. The trauma of the war bled through the generations, and my great grandmother would often relive the horrors of the Russian invasion of her Polish village, as well as stories of her many brothers before they went missing in the war.
However, my upbringing was less shaped by post-war European immigration to the US than it was the turn of the century technology that influences so much of our lives today. My father assimilated quickly and even refused to speak Finnish in the house, stating it was useless because he’s “now an American.” He even lies to people and says he’s from Boston, despite obviously being foreign-born due to his accent.
In regard to the technology/societal changes: I can still remember when you could meet your family at the gate in an airport without needing a ticket. I have fond memories of flying to see my grandmother and being able to deplane, run up the ramp, and give her a hug- the best immediate gratification a child could ask for.
Other random millennial memories I have include:
-using my grandmother’s dial-up internet connection to make a hotmail email address
-having a family PC running Windows 98
-reading the dictionary and encyclopedia set for fun
-watching my black and white TV with rabbit ears in my room as a kid
-being obsessed with Barney and Teletubbies
-rewinding VHS tapes
-bringing floppy discs to school
-playing Snake on my first cell phone (a blue Nokia that didn’t have a color screen)
-not being allowed to send text messages because they used to cost $0.10 each
It’s funny how nostalgic 20 years ago can feel nowadays.
The field of epigenetics suggests that trauma can travel genetically through people for several generations
I'd say the Greatest Generation isn't quite gone just yet, there's still plenty of them left for them to be considered a living generation
Well at this point they’re mostly in nursing homes and things.
@@JJMcCullough I'm 53, and if any of my grandparents were still alive today (they've all been gone for years, if not decades) they'd all be close to or over 100.
I was about to agree cause my great grandparents but then I remembered that my last great grandma died earlier this year
@@williamking6787 I am sorry for your loss.
4 million i believe as of 2019
I was born in 97 which makes me a kind of "zillenial" I guess. I would say big markers of my culture would be things like the Star Wars prequels, the transformers movies, and spongebob. Even though I lived through 9/11, I don't really have any pre-9/11 memories. I also feel like I'm "too old" for tik tok, but some of my friends do use it.
No one is too old for Tiktok, I see lots of teenagers and 20 somethings on it though. Back when Vine was big teenagers and 20 somethings were also big on that. Never though musical.ly would grow, I always thought it looked lame but now it’s normal.
Bro come on, we can't define ourselves on sub par movies like that. Why not movies like memento or no country for old men?
Spongebob is cool though
@@Gewehr_3 I guess I was thinking along the lines of E.T. like JJ mentioned, like stuff I watched as a kid. I didn't watch most of the "good" movies from that time period until they were 5-10 years old because I was too young for them.
@@josephdutton36 Good point. I guess throw in Shrek too
The age that parents have children is really interesting. For the first time, children coming through the schools have parents across four generations. This year I have students with biological parents that range from 26 to 74 years old. And you can tell by the behaviors of the child, how old the parents are.
I was born when my parents were in their late twenties and early thirties. Back in the 60's that was considered old for a first time parent but it's now the average age. Not only has the average age gone up but there are now more teenagers and forty somethings who are first time parents.
My mom tells me that when she was a kid, her classmates made fun of her because her dad fought in WWII instead of the Korean War like their dads. Kids find some odd things to make fun of people for.
@@lemsip207 i don't think there's more teen parents now than in say the 50s. But there's definitely more elder parent than back then.
@@randommodnar7141 Teenage pregnancies have gone down in the last twenty years. Numbers were quite high in the 80's.
That's interesting.
Great video! I recently talked with my parents (boomers) about the different generational experiences. The most striking difference was the notion of growth and perceived crisis. For them, they started out poor but life and the economy become always better. Better wages, more consumer products, more liberties (social, religious etc) , the possibility to travel, first in the neighbouring country and then even to different continents! But from my perspective, there was just one crisis after another: 9/11, recession, debt crisis, Euro crisis, frequent terror attacks, refugee crisis, climate crisis, and now the pandemic.
Therefore, I think I have less expectations for the future. Things just don't have to become naturally better, I never developed the same optimism of my parents. However, compared to them, it's much easier for me to accept/deal with negative developments. They think things could be muchbetter, I often say "well, things could bworse".
Now that sounded much bleaker than it actually is^^
I watched the second video first, but I'm still right there with you. I'm a year younger than you again and even though I am American, black and from South Carolina I feel we still share a common sense of the world.
In regards to family drama and big families, my god yes. My parents had me in their mid 30s in 89, so as boomer families go, my mother is one of 9, and my father is one of 7. From then, until now, it's nothing but bickering, arguing, prison sentences, disowning, basically anything you can imagine. It's a large cast of very.. "interesting" characters. I myself have a hard time relating to zoomers in many instances. It's clear there are certain generational divides.
As a zoomer who's parents had tons of siblings my entire family is super nice and fun to hang around and even when politics comes up outside of Facebook they respectfully disagree and stuff I really dont get the whole family drama thing cause even though I've got 40 some-odd cousins they're all great people and there really isn't any drama
My mother had a large family filled with dramatic characters (same mix of bickering and arguing with a nice side of personality disorders and factionalism) while my dad's family was small, and I'm an only child born in 84 when my parents were in their late 20s. Due to selective association over the years my "family" now consists of my parents, one grandmother, and my wife and son. I suppose my wife's family as well, although I don't consider them actual family. Not much room for drama.
it's weird that someone born in 1997 like me falls into the same group as someone born in 2013 while I correspond more to someone from 1992 than someone from 2014
I’m born in 1999 and I find people born in 2005 hard to relate to
Yea, this is the bs part
Early ‘98 (1st quarter) here and same boat.
I believe people born after 2010 are actually another generation called “Alpha generation” a common insult i’ve heard about them is the ipad kids
@@Zen47 1995 baby here. Dunno if I'm a young millennial or old gen Zer. I often wonder about how these so-called "iPad kids" experience the world and how it'll shape their identity as they come of age.
I think something that really shows the generational gap between younger and just a litle older people is their comprehension of meme culture.
one of the main diffrences between zoomers and millenials imo
its so funny being a working adult zoomer honestly because we are only just barely old enough to be adults, but people forget that we arent all still kids. most of my coworkers are millennials and gen x and one asked me on 9/11 this year where i was 20 years ago on this day and i had to tell her, well i was 2 so. i really have no clue. but on the other hand my coworkers will talk about myspace, or floppy disks, etc, and expect me to not know about them when i do, because ive been chronically online from the age of 3 (in true zoomer fashion)
I am a millennial, my parents are boomers. In 2015 I was a job-seeker and very worried about. I asked my father how he found his first (and only) job position in the '70s. He replied: "I bought a newspaper, I read job announcements and I found my permanent job position"
Ive heard a lot from boomers how back then your first serious job was most likely your job forever while now people switch jobs every few years
Supposedly the dividing line between millennials and zoomers (in North America at least) is that millennials can remember 9/11 and zoomers cannot. I've also seen frustration from fellow millennials that a lot of zoomers' politics seem to be informed by living through the Obama years but not the Bush years that came before them
Yup, I was born in 1998 and people from my year are the last to remember 9/11, most of us don't. I barely remeber the election in 2008 (think I sat and watched one of the debates with my parents), and I barely remember the 2012 election. 2016 was my first vote,which i've been told was a weird one to start on lol.
@@Ravie1 Born in 2005, the first vote I understood at all was the 2016 one. That's definitely an interesting one to start with. I remember we had a mock election in elementary school, but I knew nothing about either candidate, so I chose randomly.
In Brazil, when it comes to this sort of 'Generational Trauma' you talked about, we have quite a complicated case with our Boomer generation. The military junta which ran the dictatorship here from '64 to '85 was largely backed and incentivized by a large portion of the white, middle to upper class boomers in the country, that still romanticize those days as being the 'golden era' of the country in the last century (despite all the repression of free speech, the terrible economic administration, the persecutions and murders, and so on). This, in many ways, has created a large rift between this section of Brazilian boomers and their X'er / Millennial sons, as well as their Zoomer grandsons, with a significant part of their descendants either being indoctrinated into the same romanticized view of this terrible past, or acclimatized into cold and distant relationships with them.
In Russia boomers are always associated with huge USSR nostalgia (and particularly Stalin). GenX'ers in their turn, (in my opinion) usually are tough guys with very materialistic values and rationalistic lifeview. They seem to not care about politics and have strong ties with their families. Their generation was also affected by the fall of ussr, as they during childhood they were expecting and preparing to live in completely different system, for example the specialisations that were considered prestige suddenly became irrelevant; free trade economy was a kind of a shock for them
I always found my place in this "generational divide" somewhat confusing but also somewhat apt. My parents were Gen Xers who came of age in Mexico in the 80s meaning that, while still somewhat poor for American standards, they grew up with consumer goods and things like MTV. Once I was born in the mid 90s, Mexico saw a decline in economic stability and a high rate of emigration to the US. My early childhood was defined mostly by 90s-early 2000s internet, N64, and the emo scene, and I came of age in the 2010s so I'd be considered an older Zoomer. Regarding the family thing, yes. I have well over 70 first and second cousins, but only 2 siblings. Because of the age of my parents, I've never really had to deal with overt conservativism and religiosity in my immediate family, though this is very different for my older relatives
In many, even most, ways I see myself as more X than Millennial (born '83). However, I do relate heavily to the Millennials in regards to being in college and just 'starting life' when 9/11 happened, and hitting the post-school work force only a few years before the financial chaos of '08. I'll never forget standing at my cash register day after day seeing the newspapers for sale behind me proclaiming the financial news and knowing things were truly shifting, a marked 'moment in history' was being experienced.
Boomers: You millennials are ruining this country!
Millennials: You ruined it in the first place!
Zoomers: Both of you are toxic af
Gen X: Wow did you guys see that Ducktales remake?
Literally
Boomers: "The media ruined this country!"
Millennials: "Social media ruined this country!"
Zoomers: "YOU ruined this country!"
Gen X: "And one more thing about Last Jedi...................."
And this is exactly why I correct people when they try to tell me I'm a millenial... much more interested in the new Ducktales than arguing with Boomers.
I laughed because my gen X dad literally talked to me about Duck Tales recently. The accuracy.
Yes, the baby boomers have ruined the environment and politics and are ignorant about it. They act like their children (gen X and millennials) are the culprits or that they didn’t have everything handed to them!
3:47 didn't expect the one and only summoning salt song here
This guy knows what's up!
I think an often forgotten generational/regional phenomenon in Canada stems from the exodus of people from the Maritime provinces to the prairies in the 1970s and 80s. My dad grew up with 17 siblings on Cape Breton Island before moving his family moved to Saskatchewan to find work after the collapse of the Cod fishery.
I’m a “zoomer” (born in 2002) and my parents were baby boomers born in the early 60s. It was really interesting being raised with old music and TV shows they watched when they were kids, and being taught values they had from their generation, while also engaging with the current internet culture. It really puts a better and cooler perspective about everything for me
Being a zoomer myself, my parents were born in the mid to late 60s. I must agree that I was very much amazed as I grew up in a multigenerational household. I grew up watching English/American/Latinamerican films from the 1940s up to the mid 2000s as well as anime from the 1980s-2000 on VCR. I’m the youngest child with siblings born in the mid 80s to mid 90s so I too remember listening to my parents’ and siblings’ music on CD/MP3 players while playing on the N64, Gameboy and PS2 growing up as I was simultaneously getting exposed to the Wii and 3DS. I was born in the early 2000s so I have my own experiences I can mention from the mid-late 00s up until now.
9:54 I was born in 1999 and my grandmother grew up in the 1950s. She had four siblings and I just have one. I remember whenever me and my sister fought over anything (Toys or Snacks) she would say that my generation doesn't understand sharing. She would go on telling stories about how whenever something was bought for kids at home it used to be evenly divided, without anyone fussing about it. I always doubted that if it was true or she was just saying so to teach us some moral lesson.
The way I understood the line between Gen Z and Millenials is being able to remember a time before and after 9/11. Being born in 1999, I don’t remember anything before that and have pretty much only known a time of American war in the Middle East
That's how I would draw the line, too. I was 16 on 9-11, and it felt like the world was ending along with my childhood. To not have that dividing line in your memory between the *happy delusional safe before time,* and then the fear and endless wars that came after, that must be very different.
Yeah I think that’s a good drawing line. I was born in 2002 so I wasn’t even alive for 9/11.
I was born in 1997 and while I have memories from before 9/11, none of them are shaped by the pre 9/11 idea of safety. But I do very vividly remember the directly post 9/11 hysteria.
That's why 1996 is the cutoff. Although there's definitely overlap so if you're born in 1996 obviously you'll have more in common with someone who's Gen Z born in 1997 than a millennial born in 1989
@Mario Walker904 internet came out in 1991 actually. 2002, was when more than 50% of houses worldwide adapted it.
The “Some charts say I’m a Scorpio, but some charts say I’m a Libra” got me laughing so hard. My birthday is October 23rd.
That’s my sisters birthday. She says she’s a Libra-Scorpio
same i had no idea other oct 23rds experienced this until now 😭😭
Some charts say I'm a Libra, but most charts say I'm a Virgo - but it doesn't matter anyway because all that stuff is nonsense. ;-)
i personally believe that a generation cant truly e defined until most members are dead
Well that is just morbidly obese
@@JJMcCullough uh
Because the members of that generation wouldn't be able to disagree with whoever defines them which is dark but true
@@JJMcCullough I think autocorrect messed you up there
Lol morbidly obese
I’m a bit biased, but I say zoomer humour is actually funny.
So interesting. I certainly feel that I'm living my mother's life in a number of ways: single parent, struggling financially, little hope that my life will change and improve.
I really despise being called "the tiktok generation." Tiktok only started being a big thing in 2018 witch actually makes it an alpha generation thing. I aslo also don't like being grouped in with the types of close minden naive people who dont understand things that are only slightly older then them. I still remember using internet explorer in the computer lab in school so when the boomers on the news make a big deal about us being the tiktok generation, I really hate it.
Facts
Alphas are just being born, thus it's not a part of their childhood yet
Millenial here (or Zeenial, I guess). Welcome to the club, friend!
"Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk"
Yeeeah youre part of the Tik Tok generation
Yeah but, which generation posts the most on tiktok? It's not kids, it's teens and younger adults. I know it sucks to be stereotyped based on something you don't identify with, but there's really no other generation to assign it to.
im in a similar weird spot to the xennials, i was born in 1999 so growing up i was considered a millenial but now the definition stops at 1996. at the same time i relate a lot to people born 1994-2000 but feel pretty disconnected from people born only a couple years after me so i feel like im in a similar inbetween situation.
That's what I don't like about the generation theory that makes me believe it's ultimately one of the worst examples of social science we have ever seen: the definitions shift like crazy. Millennials were originally thought to be the ones that would come of age in the year 2000, so those born around 1982. Nowadays everyone, unless they look unmistakebly old, is called a Millennial sooner or later. The fact that they have to come up with micro-generations like xennials (which I in theory belong to), proves how faulty those categories were to begin with.
People who born in 1999 always felt an awkward or extraordinary feeling, as me. Well, I start developing such feeling in adolescence. Politics teachs a lot, but turns your life a hell. At 20 years, you realized world always was problematic and you have little power to change it, even you make solve one or other problem
This happens a lot. I was born in 1981 and was solidly told growing up that I was part of Gen X (or Generation Next if you liked the Spice Girls song) and the concept of a millenial wasn't even discussed much until I was graduating from high school. But now everyone is trying to tell me I'm a millenial. At that point, I think a lot of the determining factors are what world events had an impact on your life, like for me coming from a poorer family, I wasn't able to gain the technological literacy of others my age until my first job after high school, which was also where I first encountered email and the internet, I didn't grow up with it in the home like even some of my friends in the neighborhood did. So that kind of thing which is unique to you might speak to which generation you more accurately belong in.
i saw a chart where the millennial generation ended at 02. i was born in 04 and i feel more of an in betweener than one or the other
Same. Born in 1998. I would say that anyone who has this experience is a cusper
Another J. J. video, huzzah! As a Zoomer born in 2005, I can tell you that kids my age definitely fit the Gen Z stereotype. Making TikToks, using Zoomer slang, wearing streetwear, proficiency on the internet, and a lot of shared cultural memories from the late 2000s - early 2010s. My Gen X-er parents always talk about not having Google and delivering newspapers and watching the Berlin Wall crumble and that sort of thing.
Gen X parents! I always associate Gen Xers as being like, bossy authority figures who seemed a bit too young to be that bossy. Like substitute teachers.
I’m also a zoomer and kind of annoyed that TikTok is a part of the stereotype when it really only became popular the past few years. For people born in the early 2000s just becoming young adults now TikTok is pretty inconsequential.
@@JJMcCullough Ironically, X-ers often grew up as very independent latchkey kids, but as soon as they had their own kids, became control-freak helicopter parents.
The berlin wall fell in 1989 I guess that's like the 9/11 of the Gen X generation?
@@kirali6185 yeah i agree. As a zoomer i think vine and musicly are much more synonymous with our generation. They were around earlier and we still use a lot of vine references today.
I just finished a book called 'Inherited Fate' (it's in Hungarian so I don't think there is an English version). In it the author mentions how a grandparent's trauma can be grandchildren's cause of anxiety, panic attack and many more problems. The author encourages people to listen or even write down our parents' and their parents' life story and how they are told. For e.g my grandma has been bombarded with criticism throughout her life (by her own family!) from a very young age (when her father gave her a rude nickname - because her feet looked unusual). She never stood up for herself, because noone encouraged her, thus she developed a perfectionism towards herself.
She always tells these stories with sadness and grief.
Probably that's why I had so high expectations towards myself and was never happy about my looks after I became self-aware and started to analyse everything connected to me.
Wow, you were spot on about catholic countries, my parents are from Colombia and my dad is 11 of 12 and my mom is 8 of 10, yet they had about 2 to 3 kids themselves (and their siblings) and our generation, now mostly in our 30s and 40s, have 0 to 1 kid, 2 is rare among my cousins... The cultural shift into a more developed and modern Colombia has decreased the number of kids in families by A LOT.
I definitely agree that internet literacy is probably the greatest distinction to be made between zoomers in millennials. It seems to me that the way people interact with and regard each other in my generation (zoomers) is vastly different from how people who grew up before the modern internet do and I think this is reflected in the cultures. It's difficult to put into words all of the ways in which they're different, but it's clear they are, even from going between different online spaces where most of the users are younger or older; it can feel like moving between worlds.
But as far as your question at the end of the video, my family loosely follows the trope of the parents coming from nothing and working hard to amass a fortune later in life and then having kids raised with a silver spoon and never really knowing much adversity. Both of my parents, nearly 60, came from this very small Canadian town and were born into large families with even more massive extended members, none of which had very much money to go around. I'm a 20 year old student, musician, and artist who spends far too much time on the internet. I was conceived accidently when my parents were nearly 40 and so growing up, most of the stories people my age hear from their grandparents, I heard from my parents (the typical story of how they had to walk 20km to school uphill both ways in the snow and without shoes comes to mind). My brother, on the other hand, was born in '86 I want to say, and was my idea of a quintessential 90's kid: skateboarding, gamer, anti-authority type. He too follows the scheme of the millennial that is fluent in technology, but is somewhat boggled by the internet (he stay away entirely nowadays, only playing games on PS4 and occasionally browsing reddit). When stood next to my parents, I can't help but call me and my brother privileged and lazy, but in our defense my parents are honestly two of the most hardworking people I've ever met. They got together in high school and some time after graduating they were effectively homeless. For the next ten or so years, they juggled anywhere from 2 to 6 jobs each and raised themselves into the middle class, bringing their parents with them as well as helping some of their brothers and sisters to get there too, whether via generosity or thievery. Then they started their own business in the trades and taught themselves everything to get off the ground. Now, nearly 40 years and two dozen employees later, It's the most reputable business of it's type in the whole region. My brother works under my uncle who works at my Dad's business and I work there too and will for as long I'm getting my degree. I don't know yet what I'll do once I get it, but I think I'm leaning towards politics or history, maybe journalism even.
I'm surprised you read all that, but thanks for taking the time. I love your videos JJ :)
Excited to see how Gen alphas will turn out
*Worried
Not so alpha
They will love fortnite
@@skysthelimitvideos they were only in kindergarden back then
Let’s just say it’ll be... interesting to see how the Cocomelon generation turns out once they’re our age.
I am old enough to remember Latin as a spoken language.
one of the major identifiers of Gen-x is the "latchkey kid". Women entered the workforce in the 70s, and social programs hadn't caught up to the economic realities, which meant that this generation basically had to fend for themselves in the after-early evening time until parents came home from work.
I'm from Portugal and I can relate with what you said about catholic countries. My grandparents had a lot of siblings in comparison with my parents (my mom had two brothers and my dad none) and me (I have only a sister). Unfortunately, in Portugal we didn't have a baby boom because we only industrialized in the 60s and we didn't benefit from it due to the colonial war. Great video btw!
I'm México a lot of gen z grew with millenial pop culture due to mexican tv airing 90's cartoons
I was born in 92 and I'm pretty much a stereotypical millennial. One thing that's kind of fun now is that lately I've started to work with actual adults that are under the Gen Z label born in 2000 and what not. Man I never perceived myself as getting older before but I definitely do now. The questions they ask me crack me up
I always find people in the 90s as strange, idk what it is. As someone born in 2000, the 90s looks really getto and dumb. I also dislike the look of the 90s. Most of the media of the 90s, movies tv shows and games i also dislike. The only thing i like is the rap music of the time.
As someone who was also born in the 2000s, I sincerely apologize for the last posters generalisation and rudeness
@@BigBoss-sm9xj you're ignorant. the 90s was a time of prosperity. all the tech you use today was invented in the 80s and 90s.
Tablets even existed in the early 90s, they just weren't cheap or practical at the time.
Everything in the 2000s has just been an improvement on existing tech. nothing really new has been created. it's just making old tech smaller.
@@BigBoss-sm9xj I'm definitely a product of the 90's because that stung.
I love the look of the 90's *_ESPECIALLY_* games and movies. the art style of something like StarCraft 1 is still unmatched imo.
I'm second generation Polish Canadian so my parents are typical Roman Catholic conservatives lol my dad even hypocritically attended anti-alcoholic rallies as a youth (quite the opposite to rebelling) even though now he doesn't shy away from having a Polish beer in the evenings... he is definitely extremely conservative and like most Polish men has a 'temper' which he inflicted on me and my sister during our upbringing. But my mom is more open-minded and balanced him out with her more progressive attitudes about things at least.
1- thank you for your always thought-provoking, informative and entertaining content!
2- (oops, I wrote an entire article. Please bear with me and give it a whirl.)
I used to think that generational trauma was pure boohokey (how do you spell that?) Perhaps this viewpoint was influenced by being raised by my politically conservative baby-boomer parents. However as I've gotten older and learned to face life's challenges and crisies (again, sp?) with fortitude and growth, and with an educational background in psychology and with the privilege of a butt-ton of therapy to foster that resilience-based growth, I've come to appreciate the extent to which even seemingly slight and insignificant (but actually hugely impactful) aspects of what I thought was just my inborn personality were actually shaped by my exposure to and development of my own intergenerational trauma and that of my family members, as well as the ways in which each person's own generational trauma came (and comes) into contact with that of our family members and friends and wildly exacerbates the situation.
Some will view this attitude as an excuse. As you said, we all have a personal responsibility to grow beyond our upbringing rather than throwing our hands up and shouting "but I'm limited by the constraints of my upbringing!" But I have come to realize that realistically acknowledging and validating our challenges and limitations is actually the first crucial step to finding effective and sustainable ways to move past them.
This is true not just of emotional/cultural limitations but of biological ones as well.
So, for example, I have severe ADHD (can you tell by the extremely long opening sentence of this comment and my frequent use of parentheses?) and I spent my entire life being told that I could overcome the symptoms of my extreme executive function if only I motivated myself and tried harder. In short, my failure to compensate to the degree that would allow me to appear neurotypical was, in essence, a moral failing. I believed that narrative well into my adulthood, all the while burning myself out trying to overcome what felt to me like very normal limitations. After all, they were *my* normal. But it only took me so far, and that was neither impressive nor particularly functional. And then, in my late 30s, I got what I and my parents had until then deemed superfluous.... An official ADHD diagnosis. Over time that led me to access medication, but equally, if not even more, impactful, to discover support groups, which brought me to the understanding that so many of my perceived character flaws were actually symptoms of this disorder.
Acknowledging this fact soon started to feel remarkably empowering as I discovered that when I stopped banging my head against the doors that my ADHD had locked, I managed not only to avoid tremendous headache and heartache, but I was available and alert enough to discover other unlocked doors leading down the same corridor and allowing me to get to the "places" I'd been fruitlessly trying to get to for decades.
But in sharing this exciting knowledge with my family and so many others in my social circle, I was often met with resistance and denial. They feared that validating my struggles would result in that throwing up of hands and that my shortcomings would forever fall upon them as I would supposedly use their presence as as an opportunity to avoid growth. As if that would happen
Let me tell you, after a lifetime of believing yourself to be incompetent at opening an unlocked door only to have someone point out the appropriate key just three steps away, you can bet that nothing short of the world's destruction would keep me away from trying to get to that key and opening that door. After all, it was also the key to my self-worth, the key that would prove to me that my struggles were not the result of my own poor choices, that I was not forever destined to be punished by the self-influcted wounds of my own undoing. My pride was too important.
The proof is in the pudding, but it has take a long time for some of those around me.to rewrite their pictures of me in their heads. I think the biggest obstacle isn't just that first impressions are lasting ones, but also the difficulty of their having to live with the fact that they blamed me for something that was so clearly beyond me, and refused to give crucial help, even if only in the form of compassion, due to fear of enabling. In short, they pushed me down and kept me struggling , and even if their behavior was rooted in well intentioned and unavoidable ignorance, as I am sure it was, that truth is a very hard pill to swallow.
Similarly, I have spent a lifetime pointing fingers in my mind at a parent who was the child of Holocaust survivors, (you're a grownup! Grow past the starting point you were given!) Only to recently discover how deeply entrenched that generational trauma is, and how without recognizing those limitations, there could never be any way to discover the paths to move past them. I see how my own resultant childhood traumas have impacted me, even to adulthood, in ways I earlier couldn't have imagined. As I see the layers and learn to understand them and where they came from, I learn the ways in which I can effectively peel them off and move into the next layers underneath....this process has been a springboard for incredible growth to stop certain intergenerational cycles of harm...but it has also been the springboard for tremendous compassionand love as I can see the ways in which people I care for were hurt. The habit of looking deeply and finding the connections has led me to understand the dynamics of pain that my loved ones have been caught in. And without exposure to an alternative perspective (so often lacking when the trauma has impacted the entire generation, as there is no one untouched by the trauma and still standing close enough to see it as NOT NORMAL) there is no way to move beyond.
If the Holocaust still has such an impact of my daily life three generations down, there is no question in my mind that the periodd of African slavery in the US, which lasted much longer than wW2, has a very significant impact on those descended from slaves today.
As long as we repeat the false narrative that the struggles of the past don't impact the present, as long as we refuse to acknowledge the validity of the challenges people face, we reinforce blame and helplessness for them, and prevent them from finding the solutions to move beyond.
I was born in 96' but tbh I have never felt like part of my generation. Part of it is growing up poor, so I missed out on the games and stuff my classmates had. I was also kind of a weird kid, watching documentaries and investigative journalism that was aimed at adults rather than what was popular with kids. I feel like I went from a poor, lonely kid to a struggling mini adult at age 9.
By the time I was 14 I was making sure my mum paid her bills on time, renovating our house with her and taking a writing and a woodworking course with her. My classmates getting drunk at weekends at some "foam parties" was like a foreign culture to me.
I was also born in a weird generational transition period: the one between millennials and zoomers. Some say the dividing line between those two generations (at least for North Americans) is whether or not you have any sort of memory of 9/11. Given I was only 3 when it happened, I don’t have any and thus I identify more with Gen Z than the Millennial generation. However, another marker I use is whether or not you have any sense of nostalgia for Vine, in which case I would lean millennial. I don’t feel like TikTok “isn’t for me,” but I also remember and appreciate what came before it.
I rembered vine born in 2001 ,it wasnt there for long though
Yup, lots of folks like you here! Essentially Zillenials, they are like JJ but born between Millenials and Zoomers. I think the cutoffs are: you dont remember anything pre 9/11 and you got smartphones in middle to high school. Most Gen Z kids got smartphones in elementary schools, talking about the young ones.
My generational experience is a lot like yours. I was born in January of 1985. My Dad was born soon after WWII, and my Mom was born in the early 50s. My Papaw (paternal grandfather) worked in Oak Ridge during the war, and was exposed to radiation that ended his life prematurely. I grew up in a lower middle class family, and I had a decent childhood. I grew up in Sevierville, TN (the birthplace of American treasure Dolly Parton). My older sister was the second in my family to go to college (I was the third, my Mom was the first, but was in her 30s before she went). I grew up experiencing all of the pop culture of the 1990s. My Dad's generation was the first to leave farming as the main source of income (he worked construction and security before retiring). My sister and I come from a small family compared to my parents (my Dad had 9 other siblings, my Mom 7). That is one generational thing that stands out to me. I've rarely met anyone my age that came from a family as large as my parents came from.
I was born in the mid 80's, so I'm in that weird not-quite-young-not-quite-old stage. I called a girl out for ripping off Lisa Bonet's style circa 1992 and she had no idea who I was talking about.
Being in ones thirties is a time between being young and being more mature and settled. I’m only 21 but time goes by and I’ll be in that same boat soon. Still I think the being in ones thirties is also a great time to be alive.
This is a topic that does have a lot of impact in my life, thank you! I was born in 1972 so I very strongly (and loudly and proudly) identify as Generation X as I’m smack in the middle of it. Whenever I hear about “common experiences of Gen Xers” I stand up and shout “Yes! That is the Gen X experience! I’ve lived that!”
My wife, however, was born in 1962. I try to draw her to identify as Gen X as she’s on the cusp of Boomer and X and I don’t think there’s a term for that hybrid generation like there is for Xennials. But even if there is she calls herself a Boomer and the cultural experiences she holds most dear are Boomer ones, despite my trying to get her to identify as X. And I think the reason for that is that she’s the baby of the family, she grew up with four older brothers who were all born between 1949 and 1959, unequivocally Boomers. So because that’s her experience growing up, despite the fact she could identify as X, she grew up with Boomers so she considers herself Boomer.
As someone born on October 23, yes, some charts say I'm a Scorpio and some charts say I'm a Libra. So glad you picked my birthday! As an added bonus, it was a few years prior to yours in the same hazy Gen X / Millennial margin
This got me thinking about my dad. I'm Gen Z (older) and he's a younger boomer... And as I'm getting older (older as in 19) I'm starting to realize how similar we are in some ways. He's incredibly old fashioned and stubborn (though not conservative)... and I'm becoming the same, just in a more Gen Z way. I may be young, but I'm very much a "get off my lawn" kinda person
Age 19 is not an old Gen Z!
Last time I was this early, it was considered a compliment to call someone a Boomer.
I was born in 2005, making me a zoomer. I would say though that I'm fairly divorced from the culture of my peers. I never liked tik tok or vine, I wasn't allowed to watch SpongeBob when I was a kid and I've never like most popular music. In other ways though I am fairly involved in zoomer culture. I like a good meme, I use RUclips (obviously) and I play a lot of video games including minecraft.
What I think makes a generation is a mass shared experience. For example, the silent generation with ww2, the boomers with the counter culture movement, gen x with the proliferation and popularization of video games, millennials with the early internet, and zoomers with RUclips, Tik tok, minecraft and memes. Not to mention music.
Personally, I would say that generations are sometimes arbitrary and sometimes not. I would say the boomer generation is fairly unarbatrary, because there was a very distinct boomer culture in the 60's. I would say though that the gen x/millennial divide is very much so muddy. It's hard to say when gen x becomes millennials.
(edit) I think that what will define my generation will be covid and the covid lock down, and the probable after shocks of 2020, as well as the environmental movement and black lives matter movement.
I also never watched SpongeBob as a kid, I watched primarily educational-esque content until I was about 10.
@@TheAlexSchmidt Yeah I also watched educational-esque content when I was young. I remember watching all of the documentary's about dinosaurs and predinosaurs on Netflix, as well as a lot of Nova and The history channel, mostly watching the ww2 documentary's
I was born in 1964. According to the chart JJ showed, I’m a Boomer. But I’m pretty sure my attitudes, experiences and musical tastes are much more Gen X.
My daughter was born in 1995, so she’s a millennial. We watched SpongeBob, but I didn’t let her watch Rugrats because the kids were brats and the parents were idiots (when they were around). I had a problem with the Disney “princesses”, but she knew all the words to Eminem’s “Lose Yourself” when she was 8.
It annoys me to no end that Boomers pick on Millennials for things like participation trophies (who was giving those trophies? Boomers) and student loan debt. Sure, when working a part-time job during the school year plus full-time over the summer made you enough money to pay tuition, you didn’t need student loans. But it isn’t like that now, and hasn’t been since about 1970.
Mainstream/Indie music is an outdated category. But what I remember as a 2000's growing up kid is "That's so Raven", "Jackie Chan", "Totally spies", "Ben 10" and a lot of Tim Burton movies. Environmentalists were the first ones to warns about pandemics risk. Maybe a centrist, pro Science view but non-religion fighting appeals more to society
JJ, You have a very accurate perspective of the USA. I lived in the USA my whole life, and I don't mean in California. I'd say my experiences have been pretty typical of most Americans. Obviously people come from all walks, but my life/experiences probably represent the vast majority of Americans. When Europeans comment on the USA, they get so many things wrong. It's like everyone thinks they know so much because of what they see on TV and in movies but they don't fully understand the context. Even Canadians I think largely base their thoughts and opinions on media and what they hear. You have a very keen perspective. Im not opposed to criticism of my culture, but I HATE when criticisms lack basic understanding. Like there's plenty to criticize, why is it so hard to find legitimate criticisms. I feel like every criticism from you is valid and well explained.
I remember when I was young the phrase "generation gap" was used a lot and I can see that most of it was probably caused by the vast differences between WW2 and the Vietnam war. I didn't think there would be such a difference between me and my millennial children, but it seems there is a common opinion that the boomers caused the difficulties in the millennials lives today. I think 30+ years difference between parents and adult children, no matter how much parental love there is, will cause some degree of "gap." Life changes so fast and every decade seems to change for the better and the worse. BTW I love your thought provoking channel and your clear way of expressing ideas - not talking like a speeded up recording like many videos. You also have inflection in your voice which makes it so much more listenable than so many speakers. I'm one of your older subscribers at 65.
I'm a zoomer with Gen X parents. Because of that I have a lot of my cultural identity was based on them, such as my fondness of nu-metal and grunge, and technology. Because those pieces of my identity formed so early, it even influences the more "modern" pieces of my identity. My generations predominant musical genre is rap but due to my parents influence I began to love trap-metal and emo-rap. Although the people at my school don't go out as much, I still attempt to go out and seey friends as much as I can. (pre-pandemic obviously now no one can see each other). Also I love how my generation seems extremely globalized. We listen to russian post-punk (nicknamed doomer music) and watch anime all the time. I feel this comes from being born in an interconnected world.
Sorry if this was a lot, just felt like sharing:)
For such a left wing person like me, it is really hard to accept that I love JJ’s contend. Congrats, JJ. Cheers from Brasília, Brazil
I’m also left wing but from the US. I really like JJ, he has great content and is a good dude. Also he also really a jerk since he’s a Canadian Conservative. It seems like conservatives from certain countries like in Portugal or in Germany (Christian Democrats) are very open people and they are pretty tolerant. The conservatives that seem to be more intolerant and mean are the ones like in the US and Brazil. I see some comparisons between allies of Trump and allies of Bolsonaro (although I think Bolsonaro is scarier than Trump, since he’s looks fondly at the dictatorship and enjoyed that privilege).
@@ricardobarahona3939 I'm a person who's initial engagement with politics was with right-wing RUclips but I've slowly adopted more and more left-leaning sentiments with time, and I'm really fascinated with the way JJ seems to be (almost) universally accepted by more avowed left-wingers.
You've mentioned that this is probably because he's more open and tolerant (and, I'll add, more intellectually honest) than typical US or Brazilian conservatives but I wonder...........might it also be because you think his open-mindedness and tolerance will eventually push him further left? Or, perhaps to put it differently, do you like him because he's a kind of conservative that's further left than some of the ones you've interacted with?
@@fadhilideche2831 The latter. He’s a Canadian Conservative which isn’t as right wing as the GOP in the US or Bolsonaro’s allies (he left the PSL and has no party at the moment). The German CDU is a center-right party but they even support policies that are to the left of most American Democrats (excluding the progressive wing of the Democratic Party). Merkel has made the CDU more of a centrist party as more conservative people like Friedrich Merz or Philip Amthor are not in the mainstream leadership of the party, Armin Laschet is continuing the centrist leadership (although centrist in Germany is a status quo way more left-wing than American centrism which is just conservative in much of Western Europe). The fact that the US has no universal healthcare and has a thing such as medical debt is an embarrassment as well as the trillions of dollars wasted on wars and tax cuts to the wealthy who just horde money in tax havens and do not reinvest but do stock buybacks. Although Canada is somewhat better policy wise than the US it also has many problems like the fact there isn’t universal pharmacare, the Liberals never did election reform so first past the post hurts the power of votes, the Liberals don’t care about climate change when they also please oil companies like the conservatives, and conservative premier like Doug Ford have provided terrible leadership during the Covid crisis.
Canadian conservatism is sort of defined with toryism which is a type of conservative paternalism. Think of it like right wing pro social safety nets, or “if you are more successful, it is your duty to help those less fortunate.”. This has an effect of having the overall political landscape be more unified on the end result of certain issues.
“Right” and “left” are Big Tent terms, and also not linked to how reasonable or how effective a particular policy may be. Across the world there are many different flavours of right and left wing, and besides the generic “left” or “right” label, they could have very little in common with the “left” or “right” in another country.
I'm with you. Why do we get right wing Populist fanatics and the Canadians get such open and progressive conservatives?
The issue with generations for me, is when they put these hard lines in them saying "this generation ends here" My dad was a very late boomer, but my mom was a very early gen X. And based on my birth year, and which government organization you ask, I'm either a very late millennial, or an early gen z. But if you were to ask me, I'd say I'm either a late millennial, or somewhere between the two generations, like how a Xillenial is but MillennZ I guess
I’m ironically in the same boat as you, but with a year shift. I’m a Zoomer that had Gen X parents (1970’s-1980’s), and so rarely shared the same likes as most of the kids my age, preferring classic rock as I got older and had a knack for gaining knowledge on old video games. I’m also not big on platforms like TikTok, due to the sentiment of it being dangerous, harmful or just “too new”.
Not much I can add on the “generational trauma” thing. Most of the trauma of my family more comes from parents having mental disorders and not being good parents. The most I experience is my mother being pushy on me to succeed in the real world and not rely on her.