Mongoose Malus FAT Bike - why ride one & best simple DIY Upgrades

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

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  • @hellosunshine1090
    @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад +11

    Hey y'all:
    I'm hammered busy so I'll post links for these Upgrade parts when time allows. If you need a particular one ask & I'll post back.
    Cheers - David

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад +4

      Sure thing, here you go:
      Vuelta MTB Crankset:
      www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0081UV7LC?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
      JG Bike 32T Chainring:
      www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07WF39581?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
      On Chainring pick color & tooth count. Assuming you may have stock Mongoose its 36 T.
      I picked 32T we have moderate hills here in East Texas.
      Were I in Colorado, I'd get 30T LOL.
      On crank get best length. I think I got 170mm length by my fit.
      What I did was remove & basically toss the 22 32 & 42 rings.
      The JG Bike ring is a Narrow-wide design to grab chain / prevent dropped chain.
      If you try to do a 1X with a normal 32T like comes on it, every bump at the smaller rear cogs the chain will pop off.
      Super irritating !
      You then install the 32T JG Bike chainring in middle position.
      You can bolt it to outside face OR inside face of your new Vuelta crank 'Spider'.
      Whether you choose to attach to either face moves chain 3mm further IN or OUT so this does efffect Chainline & thus shifting precision.
      Basically in middle cog of rear cassette, chain should be straight / parallel with chainstay for optimum shift quality.
      A nice quality KMC chain helps - the best there is in bike chains.
      One more note: this Vuelta MTB Crankset bolts to stock square taper crank.
      I kept mine stock just re-greased with Mobil 1 Syn Auto Grease & tightened carefully.
      This is a huge BB & strong but not sealed from water intrusion.
      I don't care because I don't commute & ride in rain.
      If I did I'd Upgrade to a "Sealed Bearing Square Taper".
      Amazon has one for Fat Bike it's very wide & $45 ish.
      If ever mine wears out Ill Upgrade to that one.
      I tried to cover all relevant install & ordering aspects for this Crank & Chainring Upgrade.
      Let me know how you fare - David

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад +2

      Hey EVERYONE:
      I have sold my Malus reviewed here. It was & is FAB but Mongoose has released the highly Upgraded Dolomite ALX - and I decided to take the plunge & get one. It comes in a week.
      Its got an 8# lighter weight owing to Alu frame vs Steel for earlier ones like my much loved one shown here !
      The new owner was stoked yo get it for $500 all modded up.
      So if you're not a FAT owner just yet - go watch reviews for the 2021 Dolomite ALX - there's ton of HIGHLY POSITIVE ones.
      Yes Ill do a review once I've thrashed around these East Texas woods !

  • @helidude3502
    @helidude3502 Год назад +2

    I have 2 that I purchased about six months apart from Academy.
    The tan ones.
    Front wheel hub went bad.
    Cone nuts tightened up and crushed the bearing cups.
    It was warranted by Mongoose.
    I do remove my front wheel every ride to fit in my car, so probably a factor.
    Crank bearings toasted on the second.
    Ordered replacements on eBay for my convenience.
    I did break one chain.
    My first upgrade was the seat.
    I got bigger butt seats with gel from Wally World.
    Best mod yet 😁
    One got a sealed bottom bracket from eBay the same time as a crank upgrade.
    Both now have Buclos (?) 38t x 24t crank and sprockets instead of the factory 36t.
    No front derailleur. I just change it by hand if needed, but I find that I just leave it on the 24t for where I’ve been riding.
    Seems to have solved my hill climb gearing issue.
    No flats yet with the factory tires and tubes.
    But I also don’t ride the urban or ghetto street locations like I used to.
    I would like to upgrade to skewer axels or wheels when I find them available.
    It’s not the best quality bike ever.
    I would suggest going over it before your first ride and inspect it often.
    But for the budget price, I have been having a blast with mine instead of just wishing I could afford something more expensive.
    Oddly enough I have only seen one other one in the wild 🤔

  • @rickydlp
    @rickydlp 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for this vid! I got the Mongoose Fat Bike as my first bike in decades. Fun ride but didnt know what to look for and quickly felt some upgrades were needed

  • @ElevationEveryWeekend
    @ElevationEveryWeekend 3 года назад +3

    Nice overview, I fatbike 90% of the time these days, so fun!!

  • @robprimo242
    @robprimo242 2 года назад +1

    Bought a silver & black malus in 2016.paid $179 from Kmart online when they were still around wanted to get into a fat tire cheap before I went deep.still riding it today.the attention that bike got back then was pretty crazy🤭not as much today but still a bunch.spring is here and after checking prices and availability I've decided it's time for some upgrades and keep on keepn on! Great video btw solidified my choice in upgrades instead of a new bike.i can do alot of upgrades and weight reduction for just the cost of a new malus.Ride On!🤔🤙🔥🔥🔥

  • @heathcalvert1319
    @heathcalvert1319 4 года назад +3

    Got one & love it i put rapid shifters on it newer cranks bmx handle bars and it's a gr8 bike for on the trails out here in mesa Arizona

  • @CoachJimJacobsen
    @CoachJimJacobsen 4 года назад +8

    Hi! I enjoyed your video. I have a 2019 Dolomite modded very much as you did, and it is crazy fun! And it's surprisingly good in snow. Jim

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад +2

      Hey James -
      Glad you enjoyed it !
      Yes these are crazy fun right ?
      I'd love to 'give er a go' in snow but we're long ways from snow country here in Deep East Texas.
      Do you do snowmobile trails or icy roads or ?
      What PSI do you run there ?
      PS: I just modded it to 9 speed 14 - 42 teeth. Should I do a video on it ?

    • @CoachJimJacobsen
      @CoachJimJacobsen 4 года назад +1

      They have a high fun per dollar ratio, that's for sure. I ride on snowmobile trails with permission and groomed & ungroomed trails. I run about 8 psi in summer and 10 psi in winter. I don't do a lot of road riding in the winter, that's why I have an '83 Schwinn on a trainer. :)
      I'd like to see the 9 speed on video. I didn't know that a 9 speed freewheel even existed! And a 42 tooth low sounds great. I'm posting a video later today for the cheap hydraulic brakes I put on for a laugh, but which work pretty well. If you need to kill some time, my channel is Jim's Obsessive Cycling Disorder.
      Best wishes.

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад +2

      @@CoachJimJacobsen
      Funny Jim - I've seen your FAT vids already & commented probably last Fall. I thought your name was familiar !
      I'm jealous of your Snow is that Ok ?
      Yes the 9 speed rocks at 14-42 !
      I robbed it off of a Walmart sourced 'Hyper 29 Explorer' 2020 model MTB.
      U
      It comes stock with a 1x9 drivetrain & its screw on freewheel.
      I just had my Bike Mechanic son swap the:
      - Shimano 9 speed Rapid Fire Trigger shifter
      - Falcon Saker branded long cage Deraileur
      - Falcon 9 spd freewheel
      + New KMC 9 spd chain
      Over to the Malus and it is now a WAY better climber as you now have a series of low speed gear options for tight technical climbs - important due to 40# !
      We live in hilly East Texas but if I were a Flatlander this mod would be less necessary.
      I probably would have kept it 13-34 Sunrace / Shimano 8 speed.
      The 9 does shift smoother - less clunky somehow.
      Better engineered I suppose.
      But yeah you're right you CANNOT locate a 9 speed Freewheel anywhere as a component.
      It matters because it allows use of the Mongoose stock wheels / avoids a costly (rear) wheel swap to fit a 9 speed Cassette !
      I am contacting Hyper Bicycles to see if they'll supply these to us as customers - as a 'wear item' you eventually need a new cassette / freewheel, right ?!
      We'll see how that goes...
      (ME: Not holding breath)
      You might wanna Sub to my channel as I expect to do a video of this intriguing Upgrade.
      Thanks for your great input James !

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад

      I just Subbed to you...

    • @CoachJimJacobsen
      @CoachJimJacobsen 4 года назад +1

      @@hellosunshine1090 Thanks! I already subbed your channel. I enjoy your videos.

  • @puertorizzle06
    @puertorizzle06 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video/info. Just got my first fat bike/malus and appreciated the details

  • @gregserna963
    @gregserna963 3 года назад +1

    Nice video bud, I enjoyed your content 😀 I've had my Malus 4 over 3yrs now, I got that same quick shift, I'm lovin it!!! I've changed just about everything now, got some Juggernaut Pro tires!! Wore my Yangs out, by the way, my mama said my tires & rims are light!!!

  • @sean8553
    @sean8553 4 года назад +1

    I'm about to buy this and was looking for ideas. I found some. Thanks for the ideas and explanations. For a noob cycler, that'll matter.

  • @galacticgalaxyonezerone7235
    @galacticgalaxyonezerone7235 2 года назад

    I’m using one of these steal bikes for an ebike kit and one to keep pedal only.

  • @OldManFatBike
    @OldManFatBike 4 года назад +4

    Nice, thanks for the video and the ideas!!

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад +4

      Thank you glad you found it helpful.
      I just swapped it up to 9 speeds. Its crazy how different it makes the bike feel:
      Much better climbing. Not quite the top end.
      Far less needful if you ride only flats / seldom any hills.
      I plan to do a video next 30 days showing how it's done.

  • @WOLFTICKVIDEOS
    @WOLFTICKVIDEOS 4 года назад +2

    Nice video man, we really enjoyed it and very nice upgrades as well! Put us down for two views now lol thanks

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад

      You padded my views too much !

    • @sean8553
      @sean8553 4 года назад

      @@hellosunshine1090 You can put me down for padding your views as well.

  • @IAmHumanJake
    @IAmHumanJake 2 года назад

    Do you have a video on how to do these upgrades? If not any recommendations

  • @ByronBboyHovland2100
    @ByronBboyHovland2100 2 года назад

    Awesome job! I enjoyed your video. I learned a lot from just that. Thank you.

  •  3 года назад +1

    Could you have taken it to 10 or 11 speed without doing much else than you did to make it 8 speed? Just bought the Hitch and wanted to upgrade. I am older but want to stay in shape. I thought I might like as many gears as possible.

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад +1

      Basil. it kills the budget cause to go 10-11-12 speed you need rear cassette that requires totally different hub & wheel.
      IF you can locate affordable wheelset (rear one at least) then you probably could.
      But stock Mongoose FAT gears are threaded on Freewheel so keeping the stock wheels helps.
      If I wanted to throw BIG $$$ at this I'd drop $2200 & get dream ICAN Full Carbon FATTIE.
      Not realistic for me now.
      Besides this bike to me has s vibe that rewards a fun careful trail / dune ,/ snow ride.
      The weight & a zillion gears are immaterial to that vibe.
      If I'm in a need for speed mood Ill hop on my 2017 Giant Contend Road Bike anyhow.
      If youre US based I can advise how to get a dandy 9 speed groupo at modest cost.
      Hit me up w reply & Ill explain more then.

    • @jasonmc-zt1dq
      @jasonmc-zt1dq 3 года назад

      Interested how to get that?

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад +1

      @@jasonmc-zt1dq
      Ok at Walmart they may carry in store (or from Walmart.com) the MTB Hyper Explorer 29.
      Both hardtail & full suspension.
      It's a 1x9 drivetrain with a (key point) Spin-on 9 speed Freewheel (not cassette) so bingo you can just transfer over akl drivetrain parts.
      You'll need a new (longer) 9 speed chain as the FAT Mongoose is longer too.
      Cool thing is too the 1x7 or 1x8 stuff (shifter Freewheel & derailleur) can go on the Hyper 29 youre basically swapping drivetrains across !
      On the FAT bike you end up with 13-42 in rear it really climbs WELL now !

    • @jasonmc-zt1dq
      @jasonmc-zt1dq 3 года назад

      Thanks! Curious if you sold yours for alx? Its looks so good!

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад

      @@jasonmc-zt1dq
      Thinking on it Jason for sure. Not sure how much diff the # reduction makes on mostly flat terrain like East Texas features.
      You riding FAT & what kind ?

  • @eckos2310
    @eckos2310 4 года назад +2

    I wish you would have shared a parts list and where to get it from.

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад +2

      If you listen carefully I do describe each part & name them.
      Just go to Amazon & look them up.
      EASY !

  • @lincgmc
    @lincgmc 3 года назад +1

    Wondering if you can help me to get info on the chain wheel and crank arms. I have the same malus and replaced, the freewheel with a mega 7 speed. And now I news to update that parts. Thank you.

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад +2

      Crank arms are simple Vuelta MTB crankset for square taper Bottom bracket.
      Ring is Oval 32t Blue Anodized 1x Chainring. Its got the 'no chain drop" tooth profile.
      Name escapes me. Type that into Amazon you'll find em.
      Reasons for this mod are the OE 36T is too big to climb well.
      You need 30 / 32 to be in range.
      The OE part is cheap & riveted to arms. It also has that plastic chain guard.
      So the smaller 32 (or 28 or 30) tooth ring aids climbing & the 1x specific no drop holds chain mines never come off & no chain guard needed.

  • @mandladventures1792
    @mandladventures1792 4 года назад +3

    Could you possibly post a link for the crank set and chain ring ? Thank you in advance!

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  4 года назад +3

      Sure thing, here you go:
      Vuelta MTB Crankset:
      www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0081UV7LC?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
      JG Bike 32T Chainring:
      www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07WF39581?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
      On Chainring pick color & tooth count. Assuming you may have stock Mongoose its 36 T.
      I picked 32T we have moderate hills here in East Texas.
      Were I in Colorado, I'd get 30T LOL.
      On crank get best length. I think I got 170mm length by my fit.
      What I did was remove & basically toss the 22 32 & 42 rings.
      The JG Bike ring is a Narrow-wide design to grab chain / prevent dropped chain.
      If you try to do a 1X with a normal 32T like comes on it, every bump at the smaller rear cogs the chain will pop off.
      Super irritating !
      You then install the 32T JG Bike chainring in middle position.
      You can bolt it to outside face OR inside face of your new Vuelta crank 'Spider'.
      Whether you choose to attach to either face moves chain 3mm further IN or OUT so this does efffect Chainline & thus shifting precision.
      Basically in middle cog of rear cassette, chain should be straight / parallel with chainstay for optimum shift quality.
      A nice quality KMC chain helps - the best there is in bike chains.
      One more note: this Vuelta MTB Crankset bolts to stock square taper crank.
      I kept mine stock just re-greased with Mobil 1 Syn Auto Grease & tightened carefully.
      This is a huge BB & strong but not sealed from water intrusion.
      I don't care because I don't commute & ride in rain.
      If I did I'd Upgrade to a "Sealed Bearing Square Taper".
      Amazon has one for Fat Bike it's very wide & $45 ish.
      If ever mine wears out Ill Upgrade to that one.
      I tried to cover all relevant install & ordering aspects for this Crank & Chainring Upgrade.
      Let me know how you fare - David

    • @mandladventures1792
      @mandladventures1792 4 года назад +2

      Mother Goose thank you for the reply, above and beyond on the Info! I am looking forward to building this bike up and this is going to help a lot! I’ve had tons of bikes over the years, a lot of “plus” tire bikes but this is my first official fat bike and just thought it honestly was a great deal, especially for a nice steel frame. Thanks again for the list of upgrades.

    • @miniac60
      @miniac60 4 года назад +1

      A tiny bit more money and you can goto a hollowtech crank and save some weight and get an oval chainring too, check out ifx crankset

    • @mandladventures1792
      @mandladventures1792 4 года назад

      Les Franks what all did you use?

    • @miniac60
      @miniac60 4 года назад

      @@mandladventures1792 i haven't yet, but I've seen a bunch of videos on the Jainkun IFX crankset not to sure if it will work with fat tire bikes. Sorry I thought about that after I commented, buyer beware 😅

  • @marianojurado6202
    @marianojurado6202 2 года назад

    Awesome upgrades 🤙🏽

  • @lykah.d.2014
    @lykah.d.2014 4 года назад +2

    I appreciate your video. It was informative and gave me great ideas 👍

  • @cedie
    @cedie 3 года назад +1

    i got the ccm fat tire bike 4.0 and im 200 pound guy on flat road im good but uphill oh men im dying buy this because i want to cut some fat i will get use to it

  • @orfvictorantonioguedezleon553
    @orfvictorantonioguedezleon553 3 года назад +2

    Hello, could you Tello me what crankset can o buy for this bike?

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад

      Crank arms are simple Vuelta MTB crankset for square taper Bottom bracket.
      Ring is Oval 32t Blue Anodized 1x Chainring. Its got the 'no chain drop" tooth profile.
      Name escapes me. Type that into Amazon you'll find em.
      Reasons for this mod are the OE 36T is too big to climb well.
      You need 30 / 32 to be in range.
      The OE part is cheap & riveted to arms. It also has that plastic chain guard.
      So the smaller 32 (or 28 or 30) tooth ring aids climbing & the 1x specific no drop holds chain mines never come off & no chain guard needed.

  • @cc12161993
    @cc12161993 2 года назад

    Is there an option to put front suspension upgrade on this?

  • @christophervillano7776
    @christophervillano7776 Год назад

    Thank you 😊

  • @stevensager2854
    @stevensager2854 4 года назад +3

    You still need to do the brakes, the difference is major. I went with the mt200's that everyone gets

    • @gregserna963
      @gregserna963 3 года назад

      Good choice on brakes bud, I've stuck with the Original so far, but my Malus is Pimpin 4sure!!
      🙏✌🚴

  • @rickydlp
    @rickydlp 4 года назад +1

    Do you think these upgrades can be done on the Mongoose Argus Fat Tire bike?

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад +1

      Most likely. Argus differs how Im not sure.
      There's several labels like Dolomite & Malus are identical.
      I call em, collectively, Mongeese.
      FAT Geese ?
      Too funny...

  • @dougrich1970
    @dougrich1970 2 года назад

    Thanks man stay safe👍🏻✌🏻💯😇

  • @mtbfatbikes1945
    @mtbfatbikes1945 4 года назад

    You have link for tubeless

  • @anubis8900
    @anubis8900 3 года назад +1

    does it last and do things break easy. i had a switchback and its no more now. lol rusted and trash. remember i got it in 1995 with graduation money and rode it to death

    • @hellosunshine1090
      @hellosunshine1090  3 года назад

      These FAT bikes are big & tough.
      Even a large tall guy would find this hard to damage.
      Fyi, Mongoose is upping their game: the 2021 Dolomite ALX us here full Alu frame, 2x8 MicroShift drivetrain & S-M-L frame sizes.
      KevCentral just reviewed it.
      Drops weight from 44 to 36#.
      Seriously considering selling this to upgrade....

  • @tomrichards6207
    @tomrichards6207 10 месяцев назад

    Mongeese😂😂😂. Assuming you were joking. Hilarious!

  • @baciausenkil6307
    @baciausenkil6307 Год назад

    I have the exact same bike❤

  • @adudeuknow
    @adudeuknow 3 года назад

    Is the seat post tube 28.6mm?

    • @farmerjohn2262
      @farmerjohn2262 2 года назад +1

      I was wondering about the size of the post tube also. That skinny seat is the first thing to go. 😉

  • @rizvirashid1493
    @rizvirashid1493 3 года назад

    Where im from my modded fatty is too visible and everyones like wtf are those !!

  • @RyanAggabao
    @RyanAggabao 2 года назад

    whining about the gearing is why I don't buy the fitness angle on fat tire bikes.

  • @ShepherdschapelYTexplainsbible
    @ShepherdschapelYTexplainsbible 2 года назад +1

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    1. KNOW that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23
    2. UNDERSTAND the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23
    3. CONFESS that Jesus Christ is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. Romans 10:9
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