This is a most detailed review for Mission 700 and at the same time, we understand more of the 770 evo 4.2 and jbl........you are amazing Terry. Thank you.
Excellent review thank you. I had the original 700 back in the late 70’s and wished I had kept them. I gave them to my cousin who gave them to a charity shop a couple of weeks ago. I wish he’d told me first! Considering a new pair now or the Wharfdale Evo 4.4 or Lintons in the same price point.
As you touched on it ever so briefly, the inverted driver placement can defiantly effect the openness in the top end. If you go back to the days of the original JBL 4311's inverted layout which was designed to hang above the window in the studio thus putting the tweeter / midrange more in line with the engineers ear. A common trick at the time when using them at home was to invert them on the stands which really did improve all aspects of the sound. If you look at the 4312 series which was the same speaker but inverted as a normal design. JBL did this in response to the studios moving on & the market share moving towards home use. I can only recall the Trennor & Frieda ART being the exception to my experience, then again I never heard the ART inverted, I can only wonder. Thanks for your most thorough review, as always.
Can we have a sound demo between the 700’s and 770’s please? Love your sound demos. Quality recordings. Let’s have more of them. Great reviews and presentation.
I just love the Mission speaker sound. I have a pair of 700s in black after my daft dad gave my original 700 pair to a charity shop. Needless to say he walked back past the charity shop window five minutes later and they were already gone.
I'm getting bored of saying another great video Terry... but yes another great video Terry, thank you for your time and hard work to produce your content which I really look forward to every week, I think you know what an audiophile wants to know about products due to having a true passion yourself 👍👍
Extremely well done Terry, among the most interesting product to reach the market these days, that's for sure. Mission may even wake up sleepy competitors... ;)
A very thorough review as always, Terry. I was so excited when the new 770’s came out, but that was dampened by the fact that they were way above my pay grade. So, these 700’s are much more intriguing. Would like to see a head-to-head with the Linton’s as they are both retro-inspired speakers at a fairly similar price point and from the same designer to boot.
Outstanding as always Terry. Your enthusiasm towards the 700's is amazing. I guess I better start saving for a pair. Thank you and keep up the great work.
I just had a look at the bottom of my immaculate 770's ( missing the grill cloth) that I picked up at Value Village in Toronto for $40. Serial Number 010337(in red fine point marker). Love them.
Both the Mission 700 and the Wharfdale Lintons appeal to me as modernised retro looking designed speakers. Any chance if a comparison? Your description is very helpful.
Hi Terry, thanks for the reivew. They certainly seem worth demo I'm quite suprised you didn't compare these to the WD Linton's. On that note, which one of the two would you choose betwen the 700's and the Linton's? Hope we can some nice sound Demo's of these new Mission soon ;)
I think many people are still wondering why there is a large difference in price between the 770 and 700 speakers. Perhaps you could have mentioned that the Mission 770 speakers are Made/Assembled in the U.K. while the 700 speakers are Made in China. This helps explain, in part, the difference in cost. The 770 appears to be better value as it comes somewhat close to the performance of the Mission 700 at less than half of the price. Thanks for the review!
I rarely mention when something is made, I normally just show the labels which have to say it by law I think. I showed the labels in the first minute of the video not for that reason but it did show it
Providing QC is in place, then it really does not matter these days if the speakers are assembled in China. Its still the same company with the same R&D and engineerig team. it just means that manufacturing and distribution is more cost effictive for the company. This is one of the reaosns why we're able to get such good quiality speakers these days for very reaosnable prices.
I had the old vintage 707 models and were really good and good looking too, very musical speaker with really nice vifa tweeters, I would love to know how these would compare to those these days.
Great review thank you also, as you say pretty much one third the price of the 770s the 700s are, really worth a long hard look/listen. Sound aside I personally like the look of the 700 over the 770 though that's a personal thing, again cheers.
Excellent review and great to see comparisons with competing brands in similar class. From your comments it seems that the mission 700's have been skillfully voiced along with the retro and rather stunning looks let alone very competitive pricing will no doubt be a real winner for Mission. I trust they have big stock levels as for many they will be a must have...
Great thorough review (how do the speakers sound? Tap...tap...tap 😁). I wonder if Mission will launch a new Model 70 (remember those?) Can you supply a link to the acoustic panels you show? Lovely wavey design. Cheers
Perhaps if you apply sticky-backed sorbothane strips inconspicuously to the backside of the speaker stand bars, you can eliminate the resonance of the steel frame.
I was thinking more about doing something on the inside as per normal stands, I didnt even think about it right until the end when I was putting the video review together and I started to do comparisons of things to see whats what. I just took it for granted as the 770 stands dont ring. Not the end of the world situation, far from it
Thank you for a very detailed and interesting review of this acoustics. I really like their design and especially the design of the Mission 770. But the Mission 770 is now expensive for me )) Because I recently bought a Hegel h190 and it jacked up my budget a little))) So I think that the Mission 700 will be a good choice for me now. Do you think they will sound good with the Hegel h190? Thanks
It is an acquired taste but those Missions are the nicest looking speakers on the market at this time in my opinion. The 770 brings it also in the financial range of the many more people. I can see this speaker becoming a great hit.
Only five and a half mins in, but I have to say - Extremely smart marketing move on Mission's part, what with the resurrection of the 770, and now a more affordable sibling. I don't know how Mission has been doing of late, as they've been off my radar, but this is a good move for the company. As a long-time audio nut, I'm sure of that.
On the Mission web site the 770 has the tweeter, or treble unit as they call it, on top not in the middle ? There is no 700 listed on the website ? ? ?
@@PursuitPerfectSystem ?? The speakers them selves must be close to 20 inches high at least, so it should be probably double that no? I don’t think those dimensions are right .. 485 mm is around 19 inches or so, so that can’t be right. I’m guessing the speakers themselves are that tall, so how tall are the stands? 🤔👨🏻
Sorry I totally mis read your initial comment / question the height of the overall speakers on the stands is 990mm and the height to the tweeter is 730mm give or take depending on how raised the spikes are of course
The stands will not ring if you loosen the screws a little bit. Just don't tighten them all the way and they will sound just like 770 stands when you knock on them.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I was also considering Dali Optican 2 MK2 book shelve and a matching centre Dali Optican vocals for movies. Any experience with these?
When I bi-amplified my speakers I was surprised at the improvement in sound quality. Seems a pity that the Missions don't have the facility for bi-amplification. Maybe Mission could consider including this facility in future production runs.
Maybe the Evo 4.3 & 4.4 would give the 700's more competition on sound quality. The 4.2's seemed to do pretty well in comparison to the 700's and the two floorstanders in the Evo range are in similar price structures. Of course you need to have them on hand to compare. The Evos score more for me as I don't like the 700's looks and I did have an original pair of 770's in the past which I didn't like too much!
The last components I bought were over 20 years ago, before wife and kids :), I do miss going and listening to new stuff at the local HiFi shop. My HiFi has also beed relegated to the corner of the room and is currently disconected ;(
I dont think so, its just how they are they track more linear / present in the upper vocal region compared to the 700 so they sound a bit more direct which is not a bad thing I noticed.
Great review as always Terry. Sorry but the driver proportions of the new 700 just look wrong in comparison to the originals ( bass driver way to small😂). Good to see they have screen printed the logo on the front as the original 700 was really cheap looking clear plastic label. I know we’re now over forty years on from the original 700 and 770 but we’re looking at ten times the price ( from memory the 770 was introduced at £365 and the 700 at £119, that to an old fart like me us a massive increase in price although I appreciate the effect forty years of inflation has had! I guess I’ll stick with the three pairs of the originals I have until a lotto win appears🤣
Its not just inflation that effects the price, inflation would only be the determining factor if the product was identical to the original, its not its all new
I am a little dissapointed in you Terrance. You should have been prepared to answer 700 vs. Linton. It apears you are avoiding answering the question. Your subscribers are demanding an answer.
yeah the 700 are a little more linear in their treble presence region which makes them a little more upfront sounding, but again they shouldn't be too crispy with the right gear.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I think this video has convinced me that though the 770 are quite a bit more pricey I'll just budget until I can get them. I know they're the ones I'll end up more happy with in the end. Thanks for the stellar review!
Oh, man - I’ve been waiting for this review!! Very exciting!🎉
Thanks for sharing your perspectives on these Missions. I was looking forward to this review.
This is a most detailed review for Mission 700 and at the same time, we understand more of the 770 evo 4.2 and jbl........you are amazing Terry. Thank you.
Great review. They do look really sharp in your beautiful decor.
I love the knocking speaker's cabinet test, nice touch!
Excellent review thank you. I had the original 700 back in the late 70’s and wished I had kept them. I gave them to my cousin who gave them to a charity shop a couple of weeks ago. I wish he’d told me first! Considering a new pair now or the Wharfdale Evo 4.4 or Lintons in the same price point.
Excellent to see you got hold of the NAD M23, really looking forward to that review!
Yeah gonna need a fair bit more time for that one, power amps are hard to review as how do you isolate them. There will be one though for sure
Nice review, Terry…I can see that you REALLY enjoyed yourself with this one! 👍🏼
The way Terry describes the sound character of the 700s is very precise & straight to the point. 👍
Thanks very much, appreciate it.
As you touched on it ever so briefly, the inverted driver placement can defiantly effect the openness in the top end. If you go back to the days of the original JBL 4311's inverted layout which was designed to hang above the window in the studio thus putting the tweeter / midrange more in line with the engineers ear. A common trick at the time when using them at home was to invert them on the stands which really did improve all aspects of the sound. If you look at the 4312 series which was the same speaker but inverted as a normal design. JBL did this in response to the studios moving on & the market share moving towards home use. I can only recall the Trennor & Frieda ART being the exception to my experience, then again I never heard the ART inverted, I can only wonder. Thanks for your most thorough review, as always.
Great review, black and white contrast really works
Can we have a sound demo between the 700’s and 770’s please? Love your sound demos. Quality recordings. Let’s have more of them. Great reviews and presentation.
I just love the Mission speaker sound. I have a pair of 700s in black after my daft dad gave my original 700 pair to a charity shop. Needless to say he walked back past the charity shop window five minutes later and they were already gone.
I'm getting bored of saying another great video Terry... but yes another great video Terry, thank you for your time and hard work to produce your content which I really look forward to every week, I think you know what an audiophile wants to know about products due to having a true passion yourself 👍👍
I never get bored of hearing it John... thanks again
Extremely well done Terry, among the most interesting product to reach the market these days, that's for sure. Mission may even wake up sleepy competitors... ;)
Terry- Engaging analysis! I will look into the 700's.
your systems looking nice at the moment terry. those rel's are top drawer!
Cheers Dean, most of it is not mine, I am just the temporary looker-afterer 😀
A very thorough review as always, Terry. I was so excited when the new 770’s came out, but that was dampened by the fact that they were way above my pay grade. So, these 700’s are much more intriguing. Would like to see a head-to-head with the Linton’s as they are both retro-inspired speakers at a fairly similar price point and from the same designer to boot.
I think a much broader vintage type speaker group test comparison would be better. They are so much work but def something for me to consider
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Would definitely look forward to that, Terry!
They are quite different thou, The 700 is so much more in your face than the Linton's which got a much more lean back sound
@@Audiophilesdoteu interesting! I haven’t heard either but look forward to doing so in the near future.
Great review Terry , the 700's are more suited to my space and budget but not sure I could give up my Harbeth's !
never say never John :)
Outstanding as always Terry. Your enthusiasm towards the 700's is amazing. I guess I better start saving for a pair. Thank you and keep up the great work.
I just had a look at the bottom of my immaculate 770's ( missing the grill cloth) that I picked up at Value Village in Toronto for $40. Serial Number 010337(in red fine point marker). Love them.
Great vid 👍 Mission 700 or Wharfedale Linton (if you could choose only one)? Which and why?
I think the Lintons, because they are so good for the money.
Both the Mission 700 and the Wharfdale Lintons appeal to me as modernised retro looking designed speakers. Any chance if a comparison? Your description is very helpful.
Hi Terry, thanks for the reivew. They certainly seem worth demo
I'm quite suprised you didn't compare these to the WD Linton's. On that note, which one of the two would you choose betwen the 700's and the Linton's?
Hope we can some nice sound Demo's of these new Mission soon ;)
Very good review. Thanks. Beautiful speakers. I hope, I can hear them by occasion. Like this retro look, fantastic 😁👍
Great review as always Terry.
Cheers Steve
🤗👍THANKS TERRY , FOR THIS REVIEW…PROVING THAT THIS IS THE BEST TIME TO BE AN AUDIOPHILE 😁💚💚💚
The Missons were a real game changer when they first arrived, not only in terms of sound , but as well in terms of aesthetics.
I passed on a pair of Original mission speakers at an estate sale. Should have bought them.
I think many people are still wondering why there is a large difference in price between the 770 and 700 speakers. Perhaps you could have mentioned that the Mission 770 speakers are Made/Assembled in the U.K. while the 700 speakers are Made in China. This helps explain, in part, the difference in cost. The 770 appears to be better value as it comes somewhat close to the performance of the Mission 700 at less than half of the price. Thanks for the review!
I rarely mention when something is made, I normally just show the labels which have to say it by law I think. I showed the labels in the first minute of the video not for that reason but it did show it
You mean the 700 is better value lol
Providing QC is in place, then it really does not matter these days if the speakers are assembled in China. Its still the same company with the same R&D and engineerig team. it just means that manufacturing and distribution is more cost effictive for the company. This is one of the reaosns why we're able to get such good quiality speakers these days for very reaosnable prices.
I had the old vintage 707 models and were really good and good looking too, very musical speaker with really nice vifa tweeters, I would love to know how these would compare to those these days.
Great review thank you also, as you say pretty much one third the price of the 770s the 700s are, really worth a long hard look/listen. Sound aside I personally like the look of the 700 over the 770 though that's a personal thing, again cheers.
Great review Terry. I’ll try and audition these though they may be a bit big for my room.
Excellent review and great to see comparisons with competing brands in similar class. From your comments it seems that the mission 700's have been skillfully voiced along with the retro and rather stunning looks let alone very competitive pricing will no doubt be a real winner for Mission. I trust they have big stock levels as for many they will be a must have...
Great thorough review (how do the speakers sound? Tap...tap...tap 😁).
I wonder if Mission will launch a new Model 70 (remember those?)
Can you supply a link to the acoustic panels you show? Lovely wavey design. Cheers
Perhaps if you apply sticky-backed sorbothane strips inconspicuously to the backside of the speaker stand bars, you can eliminate the resonance of the steel frame.
I was thinking more about doing something on the inside as per normal stands, I didnt even think about it right until the end when I was putting the video review together and I started to do comparisons of things to see whats what. I just took it for granted as the 770 stands dont ring. Not the end of the world situation, far from it
Lead shot works well, too, if you can acquire it at a local sporting goods or hunting/firearms shop.
Drum gel pads, might work.
great review. Terry, in your personal opinion, how do the mission 700’s stack up against the kef meta’s ?
Hi Terry thanks for the review!!!Are they also good and dynamic in low volume listening?
I would think so yes, given then design but this depends on a lot of factors of course :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem thank you!!🎶
that color scheme . . . I'd feel compelled to listen mostly to the discography of Two-Tone Records ; )
Thank you for a very detailed and interesting review of this acoustics. I really like their design and especially the design of the Mission 770. But the Mission 770 is now expensive for me )) Because I recently bought a Hegel h190 and it jacked up my budget a little))) So I think that the Mission 700 will be a good choice for me now. Do you think they will sound good with the Hegel h190? Thanks
Very insightfull review. How do you think they would be in a 8m x 4m room?
Thats roughly the size of my room so very similar to how I found them
It is an acquired taste but those Missions are the nicest looking speakers on the market at this time in my opinion. The 770 brings it also in the financial range of the many more people. I can see this speaker becoming a great hit.
Terry, I have the Evo 4.2s. What stands are you showing them resting on? Thanks
Everything was on the Mission 700 stands to keep that part the same for testing purposes and to make my life easier
Only five and a half mins in, but I have to say - Extremely smart marketing move on Mission's part, what with the resurrection of the 770, and now a more affordable sibling. I don't know how Mission has been doing of late, as they've been off my radar, but this is a good move for the company. As a long-time audio nut, I'm sure of that.
Totally agree. I like the 770/700 a lot and have not been a huge fan of the example ZX series :-)
On the Mission web site the 770 has the tweeter, or treble unit as they call it, on top not in the middle ? There is no 700 listed on the website ? ? ?
www.mission.co.uk/700-2/ Mission 770 and 700 are two different speakers
What height are the speakers with stands, and how high would the tweeters be off the floor with the speakers on the stands? (For the 700’s).. Thanks!
Dimensions (mm)
Height (on spikes) 485mm
Width 320mm
Depth 330mm
Top Plate (W x D) 260 x 270mm
thats from the website
@@PursuitPerfectSystem ?? The speakers them selves must be close to 20 inches high at least, so it should be probably double that no?
I don’t think those dimensions are right .. 485 mm is around 19 inches or so, so that can’t be right. I’m guessing the speakers themselves are that tall, so how tall are the stands? 🤔👨🏻
Oh that was just the stands dimensions, I thought that is what you were asking - are you asking total height of the speaker and stand combined?
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Yes, and the height of the tweeter center from the floor while on the stands. Thanks. 👨🏻
Sorry I totally mis read your initial comment / question the height of the overall speakers on the stands is 990mm and the height to the tweeter is 730mm give or take depending on how raised the spikes are of course
Hi, comparing mission 700 with wharafedele linton which for you is better ?
For me it would be the Mission but you might see it the other way around
@@PursuitPerfectSystemI totally agree 🎉😅
The stands will not ring if you loosen the screws a little bit. Just don't tighten them all the way and they will sound just like 770 stands when you knock on them.
I am on a bid for a good pair of 780 SE's about 20 years old - are they worth a bid up to £50
I wonder how these compare to the Spendor classic's?
how do they compare to BBC speakers like the LS 8/1 ? (770)
I wonder if I can use the 700 for center channel 😅
Hi Terry, do these have the matching centre channel and would these go well with movies.
No Ray, not at the moment
@@PursuitPerfectSystem
I was also considering Dali Optican 2 MK2 book shelve and a matching centre Dali Optican vocals for movies. Any experience with these?
Could you PLEASE tell us what music you play in the video (and in each video, please)?! (please)
Audiolab 7000 A should be the right amplifier for the Missions
When I bi-amplified my speakers I was surprised at the improvement in sound quality. Seems a pity that the Missions don't have the facility for bi-amplification. Maybe Mission could consider including this facility in future production runs.
Maybe the Evo 4.3 & 4.4 would give the 700's more competition on sound quality. The 4.2's seemed to do pretty well in comparison to the 700's and the two floorstanders in the Evo range are in similar price structures. Of course you need to have them on hand to compare. The Evos score more for me as I don't like the 700's looks and I did have an original pair of 770's in the past which I didn't like too much!
The Evo's are brilliant.
Don't forget, if these were made in the UK and not in China, the price difference with the 770 wouldn't be that huge.
exactly.
The last components I bought were over 20 years ago, before wife and kids :), I do miss going and listening to new stuff at the local HiFi shop. My HiFi has also beed relegated to the corner of the room and is currently disconected ;(
The frequency bump around 4 kHz might be because the speakers don't have enough hours on them.
I dont think so, its just how they are they track more linear / present in the upper vocal region compared to the 700 so they sound a bit more direct which is not a bad thing I noticed.
To stop the ringing of the stands you only need to fill them with vinyl.
Harbeth his not supper inert. Sometimes a lively cabinet is part of the design.
Great review as always Terry. Sorry but the driver proportions of the new 700 just look wrong in comparison to the originals ( bass driver way to small😂). Good to see they have screen printed the logo on the front as the original 700 was really cheap looking clear plastic label. I know we’re now over forty years on from the original 700 and 770 but we’re looking at ten times the price ( from memory the 770 was introduced at £365 and the 700 at £119, that to an old fart like me us a massive increase in price although I appreciate the effect forty years of inflation has had!
I guess I’ll stick with the three pairs of the originals I have until a lotto win appears🤣
Its not just inflation that effects the price, inflation would only be the determining factor if the product was identical to the original, its not its all new
They're not available in the USA. There's only 1 store in Mississippi that sells them.
I have only had them here 2-3 weeks and I have the first pair so they are still brand new. I am sure there will be more available in the near future
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I think they generally lack distribution in the USA, according to their website. It's unfortunate.
@@stuartwiner7920 Upscale is supposed to be getting these and the 770s when who knows.
IAG group have a real lack of distribution with Mission speakers in the US
KLH Model 5 FTW?
dont know sorry, these are real good speakers so dont assume anything
Hi, if you had to choose between the Mission 700 and the Wharfedale Linton which would you prefer? Thanks
How does the soundtrack to Joe Dirt sound on them?
I am a little dissapointed in you Terrance. You should have been prepared to answer 700 vs. Linton. It apears you are avoiding answering the question. Your subscribers are demanding an answer.
I don’t have any Linton I can’t compare to something I don’t have access to sorry about thay
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks Terry. I was just giving you a hard time. lol, but we are still curious..
Nice, but far too expensive in my opinion.
You had me till you said "crisper" I really like the 770 but, they are as "crisp" as I ever want to go. Makes my ears hurt even saying that word.
if the 770 sound overly crisp they are showing you that aspect of the hifi system, its not the speakers
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Oh, I had hoped you'd say that. I didn't find the 770 "crisp" I thought you meant the 700.
As it won't let me edit, I typed 770 when I should have typed 700 in my original remark.
yeah the 700 are a little more linear in their treble presence region which makes them a little more upfront sounding, but again they shouldn't be too crispy with the right gear.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I think this video has convinced me that though the 770 are quite a bit more pricey I'll just budget until I can get them. I know they're the ones I'll end up more happy with in the end. Thanks for the stellar review!
those stands need sand
I don’t like black I prefer natural wood look as were the originals that my daft dad gave away!
they come in both