Absolutely insane update, I have been trying it out for a few hours now and it's a huge jump from the old version. Also for me personally the new systems and new menu/window is extremely intuitive and easy to understand, It's also just so much easier to calibrate now and everything that I have tested so far (sitting in chair, sitting on floor, laying on back, laying on side) have all worked quite flawlessly! -and the adjustments you can make to for sitting/laying is really nice. Very impressed.
Haven't kept up with the project for a hot minute, but it's amazing seeing how far it's come from the 1st version! It seems so much more versatile now!! Nice work!
There are a LOT of questions and getting used to the new systems. I plan on releasing a v2.0.1 (or v2.1) patch in the new few days to help solve some issues. One of the biggest issues is a bunch of jittery movement and lag when using Virtual Desktop. This is being actively looked into and I hope to get a workaround out in v2.0.1 in the meantime while I look into the root cause. v2.0 is quite a bit more complex to use than v1.1, so please be patient with us and be patient with the software as you learn all the quirks it has and how it differs from v2.0. That's all for now.
Fifteen minutes into this and for the first time I looked at a mirror and went "That ain't me, that's someone with my avatar." This tool is powerful. I'd say 80% of what FBT can offer (unless you do acrobatics). My only (skill) issue with it is that if I want to lay down on my bed, I would need to set my bed to be my floor, which would make me squat all the time when I don't need to lay in bed.
I LOVE this! Thank you so much for developing this! I am excited to use it! One of the first things I'm going to do is cover up with a blanket while cuddling in the movie world and watching a movie with my boyfriend :) Now I can stay warm and keep my tracking! You are amazing! Keep up the AMAZING work!!
Wow, this delivered so hard for the mixed vr crowd. I've been testing by programmatically disabling trackers randomly and the fallback to interpolated trackers is seamless. By that I mean where I would usually notice when something goes wrong, Standable is so fast and smoothly returns control to the device that unless I have the menu open to see the tracking models change color on disconnect I might not catch it visually. Impressive work!
For people who use mixed VR, like using a quest 2, 3, or pro. I had to reinstall the Standable, then start SteamVR first, then Steamlink. If you have index controllers, turn off your quest controllers prior. Which also means to turn off hand tracking.
I love the idea of standable, bought it and used it for a rather short time till I got proper trackers... and it's 1.0 mixed reality led me... mixed to say the least. But now with the sweet of features here it's just, so nice. I'd still plan to get at least a chest tracker... but after that I really don't need knees or elbows standables mixed has got me covered there and it's great!!
Started using this the day before yesterday and people have thought I have full body because I’m able to utilize this to make my movements look good lol
tryna save up just to get standable, 2.0 looks like an insane improvement and as a quest 3 user with no means of getting FBT standable is 100% worth it.
you should add like a preset option where you can save your different rotations and calibrations of the trackers to make things faster when switching avatars
HUGE QUESTION: If I sit and stand a lot (I mainly sit) can I reset floor height and also does standable work when sitting down, for instance in Vrchat if i want my body to be walking around while I'm sitting then switched to standable while sitting so I can actually be able to move my legs and lay down etc without having to use gogo loco and be locked into one spot, which makes me nauseous since it doesn't follow the movements of my body. When I'm laying down and not walking (while sitting) it makes me super nauseous because nothing flows with my actual body. And, when sitting back do my legs at least move a little and follow along with my feet, like if im laying back with the poses and move my feet a little, or cross a leg over knee or something? Just a little natural movements when laying down to feel more real
the fact that you need trackers for the app to actually work and not try to put all the limbs in one spot and then lag the game so bad that the whole vr headest just turns off to protect itself
With depth alignment adjustment, it feels like I am getting it exactly where I want it but then to leave calibration I have to put my arms down to my sides resulting in loosing the adjustment. Everything ends up in the default position rather than the depth I had it at.
This is amazing! Looking a lot better than the demo from months ago, great work! Love the idea to have a few trackers and standable doing the rest. No pressure, but still wondering about the quest version of standable?
My best guess is that ur floor height on Standable isn’t accurate . I’m not sure how to fix it tho my best suggestion is to keep trying to reset it until it possibly works lol.
Could you put the current offsets set in the menu somewhere so we can calibrate once, go look what the offsets are and then copy them in to the defaults? Or even better, a set current offset as default button?
I dont understand. i was trying to set this up, and suddenly my Quest3 is launching steamVR, not steam link, and I can't do anything in steam VR. it wont let me open other aps, wont let me open standable, wont let me do ANYTHING, and it's glitchy AF. I've restarted my device several times and it isn't working.
1 thing i would love to see with standable is height calibration it doesn't seem to like where i put my floor it keeps my "feet" up in the air and it is a real struggle anyways love the software so far can't wait to see the next update
@@John--117 The floor calibration and height calibration are two separate systems. First you must set the floor height then recalibrate by holding a t-pose till you hear the click. This will properly set your height. If you still are having issues, feel free to join the discord and we’ll be able to help further: discord.gg/WvfJAp7A2d
having a specific issue where my body goes into a weird position when my hip loses tracking when I sit on my couch. the only temp fix is calibrating the floor as my couch. it's a great software but this is annoying
Heads up for anyone with slimevr thinking about getting this, don't. It completely kills your skeleton in the app as they're incompatible. I found this out after buying it for a friend that has slime. Also lowkey annoying that can't do a T-pose for fun without entering the calibration mode accidentally. If you already have trackers, you'll basically only see the difference in your elbow tracking, nothing else. Only get this if you have no trackers at all or if the fallback would matter due to short battery time, not worth for mixed tracking imo.
So if I understand correctly a good way to combine this with quest 3 upper body tracking through virtual desktop is to set the feet and knees (and possibly hips) to estimation override so the IK estimation from virtual desktop is ignored for those and standables better poses are used for lower body, but disable upper body in standable so you can get the real tracking from quest 3 through virtual desktop emulated trackers. Right?
@@standable great thanks. really nice project. does standable add any amount of network latency when using airlink? I am aware you're working out a wrinkle with virtual desktop but it seems that I get crazy network spikes when using standable, without standable I can do the full 200 h265 with no issues, with standable I get stuttering but the cinch is if I lower my bitrate to 50mbps it's smooth again. If it's related I hope it helps you resolve the issue, I've paid for the app and don't intend to refund it so I hope this gets worked out sometime in future! I can't really switch to oculus link because I want to use the emulated vive trackers sadly. thx!
@@SLEEPYDOGINUStandable “shouldn’t” be causing any noticeable network latency though a few have mentioned issues. I’ll look on my end to see if it’s something to do with the program itself. If i find a solution I’ll make sure to have it part of the next patch 👍
@@standable yeah I figured it shouldn't too, but maybe some conflict in the way VD handles tracking data i dunno. fwiw I have a 6E router on it's way tomorrow which will become my dedicated AP for my quest 3. I'll test standable with it again and let you know if there's any improvement. obviously it's not realistic for everyone to have a setup like that but if it helps ya get to the bottom of it. thanks anyway!
A positive point of the virtual desktop is that it can calculate exactly when you tilt your body, I couldn't get this to work on standable Is it possible to make both software work in parallel? This way we would have the best of both worlds.
how do I bend over? asking for a friend -- jokes aside, i notice with alternative body tracking estimation products when you bend forwards you actually bend, but on standable i'm just crouching when I bend. How do i fix this? it really affects immersion.
floor height completely broken, going afk and coming back also breaks floor height and we have to restart everything. foot and elbow trackers are usually broken, moves looks too weird
Great tutorial and showdown of the app, but I want to know how if it can work with Quest 3 and the upper body tracking, just now I need to start Virtual Desktop and then start steam to get it to work and the functionality of that is not so good, like I can only use my elbows on the side, but if I try to put my hand on the elbow or pot my elbows together it do not work at all, so I just look for any other app that can use Quest 3 body tracking directly in SteamVR.
Hi, I just want a suggestion for any trackers that may work well with Standable. I want to be able to lift my legs and stuff, but I don't want the full package of control--Just like in the video--Any suggestions would be appreciated. Any trackers that may have their own camera mainly. (I forgot the name)
![VR "Must-Haves" you NEED! [VRChat]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5hAIjLW3DS4/mqdefault.jpg)
If you are having issues it just want to chat with the community I suggest joining the official discord!
Discord: discord.gg/rJz9wvdGRG
your main avatar is adorable. The concept of the little fella movin his limbs and it moves the robots is just amazing!
Thank you!
The calibration noises itch my brain in a good way
Absolutely insane update, I have been trying it out for a few hours now and it's a huge jump from the old version. Also for me personally the new systems and new menu/window is extremely intuitive and easy to understand, It's also just so much easier to calibrate now and everything that I have tested so far (sitting in chair, sitting on floor, laying on back, laying on side) have all worked quite flawlessly! -and the adjustments you can make to for sitting/laying is really nice. Very impressed.
I’m glad you enjoy it! It’s been a long time coming.
15:16 & 16:11 TRIGGERED lol. Discord notif sounds in video XD
Amazing work though. Love what you're doing!
Hip counterbalance at 10 is big meme potential. This is amazing.
Haven't kept up with the project for a hot minute, but it's amazing seeing how far it's come from the 1st version! It seems so much more versatile now!! Nice work!
Was quiet for a while. But, we me he was some where cooking
There are a LOT of questions and getting used to the new systems.
I plan on releasing a v2.0.1 (or v2.1) patch in the new few days to help solve some issues.
One of the biggest issues is a bunch of jittery movement and lag when using Virtual Desktop. This is being actively looked into and I hope to get a workaround out in v2.0.1 in the meantime while I look into the root cause.
v2.0 is quite a bit more complex to use than v1.1, so please be patient with us and be patient with the software as you learn all the quirks it has and how it differs from v2.0.
That's all for now.
small question is it possible to mix this with slime vr?
@@AchillSharkig yes, he said that in the video, anything that shows up in SteamVR works.
@@chippdbanjo mmm i dont understand this video needs a bit more of a guide to the trackers with it
how do you calibrate without tposing cuz im sorta 1 handed
@@AchillSharkig Not sure if it's gonna work with standable, but vrchat has an option to use one hand calibration
Fifteen minutes into this and for the first time I looked at a mirror and went "That ain't me, that's someone with my avatar."
This tool is powerful. I'd say 80% of what FBT can offer (unless you do acrobatics).
My only (skill) issue with it is that if I want to lay down on my bed, I would need to set my bed to be my floor, which would make me squat all the time when I don't need to lay in bed.
real, they should make it so you can set up a headset height to determine if you're laying
Well you do have set floor in ovr advanced settings for that
@@hellhoundaxel No, because it moves the trackers with it.
What about turning it off when you’re not laying is that an option
@@JohnNick1309 So we cannot set floor for this, that's a bummer but overall a great software nontheless.
dude this is actually fucking nuts, im so glad purchased this a long time ago. i had a feeling you were cooking
Good work dude!
Absolutely outstanding update to this, was well worth the wait!💙
Did not expect this, finally get to try 2.0
I LOVE this! Thank you so much for developing this! I am excited to use it! One of the first things I'm going to do is cover up with a blanket while cuddling in the movie world and watching a movie with my boyfriend :) Now I can stay warm and keep my tracking! You are amazing! Keep up the AMAZING work!!
Dude this is perfect, the work you've done is incredible!
Wow, this delivered so hard for the mixed vr crowd. I've been testing by programmatically disabling trackers randomly and the fallback to interpolated trackers is seamless. By that I mean where I would usually notice when something goes wrong, Standable is so fast and smoothly returns control to the device that unless I have the menu open to see the tracking models change color on disconnect I might not catch it visually. Impressive work!
Thank you so much for this guide!! I appreciate it!
Also the click for the calibration totally sounds like someone popping a joint lol appropriate
Glad it helped!
god i was so confused till i took off my headset and actually listened to the calibration guide fully 😭😭😭😭tysm!!
This helped so much, thank you for making this super easy to understand!!
Glad it was helpful!
cant see myself using full body without standable now. this is incredible.
For people who use mixed VR, like using a quest 2, 3, or pro. I had to reinstall the Standable, then start SteamVR first, then Steamlink. If you have index controllers, turn off your quest controllers prior. Which also means to turn off hand tracking.
cheers to standable for saving us money
This fixed a lot of gripes I had with the previous version, especially sitting, so keen to use this now! Great work!
I plan to use this soon and i am excited i can't wait to use the seat tool
I love the idea of standable, bought it and used it for a rather short time till I got proper trackers... and it's 1.0 mixed reality led me... mixed to say the least. But now with the sweet of features here it's just, so nice. I'd still plan to get at least a chest tracker... but after that I really don't need knees or elbows standables mixed has got me covered there and it's great!!
The hybrid(mixed tracking) setup is super cool change of pace compared to the VRC IK, good shit. Super good
thank you. this guide saved my life
Started using this the day before yesterday and people have thought I have full body because I’m able to utilize this to make my movements look good lol
Awesome update, keep up the good work!
very excited to try this out tonight
This looks fantastic, I'm currently waiting for the set of slimes to arrive and I can't wait to test the 2+1+mixed variant
so good the local dumpster grew legs, ripped standable out of my pc, ate it and ran back to its spot
Awesome project, this is great for the community!
I am really looking forward to trying it!
This update is excellent and really helps a lot so I'll try it.
Bought it!! Loving it ❤
Such good work, will be using both full and mixed!
How do you prevent your legs from crossing like you need to use the bathroom?
WOW! This is amazing and there's so much progress! I really love the program you made, and I can tell you put in a lot of effort. Thank you!
thanks little robo man, funny cus I just ordered fully body and now I guess standable will still help haha
NOW THATS A DAMN MAGIC
Standable looks so cool I NEED to buy it and try it out!
This is just so pretty, and nicely done. Thank you for making this available for people who's just a bit broke
tryna save up just to get standable, 2.0 looks like an insane improvement and as a quest 3 user with no means of getting FBT
standable is 100% worth it.
This is amazing man
Thank you for all your work !
Absolutely outstanding work I3Llamas. Well worth the wait and thank you so much for this! Legend.
🫡
such impresive work. keep it up 👍
I can't wait to try it!
can't wait to try this, you've done some amazing work here man,
can't wait to give it a go
9:05 omg the old recroom wiggly body
Finally!! now to use v2 for another 1k hours :>
sooo good ty for 2.0 update sir!!
Amazing work you've been doing! Keep it up, can't wait to see what's in store for the project :)
that random discord notification on the video got me... XD
Hi how do you connect slime vr trackers to the standable estimation app
honestly makes life for new vtubers a lot easier...
Vtubers are disgusting
you should add like a preset option where you can save your different rotations and calibrations of the trackers to make things faster when switching avatars
i'm having troubles trying to calibrate the aligment because they cannot "click" when i set em up, they keep moving when i put down my hands
Awesome work
This saves me so much money!!
HUGE QUESTION: If I sit and stand a lot (I mainly sit) can I reset floor height and also does standable work when sitting down, for instance in Vrchat if i want my body to be walking around while I'm sitting then switched to standable while sitting so I can actually be able to move my legs and lay down etc without having to use gogo loco and be locked into one spot, which makes me nauseous since it doesn't follow the movements of my body. When I'm laying down and not walking (while sitting) it makes me super nauseous because nothing flows with my actual body. And, when sitting back do my legs at least move a little and follow along with my feet, like if im laying back with the poses and move my feet a little, or cross a leg over knee or something? Just a little natural movements when laying down to feel more real
This is awesome work! Lovely for mixed tracking too.
the fact that you need trackers for the app to actually work and not try to put all the limbs in one spot and then lag the game so bad that the whole vr headest just turns off to protect itself
You literally don't need trackers for it to work though?
I use it with a quest 2 and that's all besides obviously my PC, and it works just fine
Awesome work and very impressive!
Really looking forward to trying this out this weekend! 😃
Standable is some good soup.
Amazing job🎉
When is standable coming to oculus quest 2/3
Why the feet is floating? And abit jittery when moving?
You are a GENIUS
when i start steam vr the body aint there
With depth alignment adjustment, it feels like I am getting it exactly where I want it but then to leave calibration I have to put my arms down to my sides resulting in loosing the adjustment. Everything ends up in the default position rather than the depth I had it at.
This is amazing! Looking a lot better than the demo from months ago, great work! Love the idea to have a few trackers and standable doing the rest. No pressure, but still wondering about the quest version of standable?
It is being looked into 🤔
any way to fix my foot trackers being higher than my avatars trackers?
My best guess is that ur floor height on Standable isn’t accurate . I’m not sure how to fix it tho my best suggestion is to keep trying to reset it until it possibly works lol.
i hope this ''Standable v2.0 ' will be good and better
Could you put the current offsets set in the menu somewhere so we can calibrate once, go look what the offsets are and then copy them in to the defaults? Or even better, a set current offset as default button?
when i try calibrating my feet move towards eachother as my arms come back down none of the alignment options helped
I am not getting any click when I T-Pose, do I have to do it a specific way?
I dont understand. i was trying to set this up, and suddenly my Quest3 is launching steamVR, not steam link, and I can't do anything in steam VR. it wont let me open other aps, wont let me open standable, wont let me do ANYTHING, and it's glitchy AF. I've restarted my device several times and it isn't working.
Not sure if you remember me but around when you started this i said it was going to be big and here we are now =) I was right so i win!! lol =P
would the tracker thing work with the switch joycons with slime vr?
Thanks! Nice avatar too
1 thing i would love to see with standable is height calibration it doesn't seem to like where i put my floor it keeps my "feet" up in the air and it is a real struggle anyways love the software so far can't wait to see the next update
@@John--117 The floor calibration and height calibration are two separate systems. First you must set the floor height then recalibrate by holding a t-pose till you hear the click. This will properly set your height.
If you still are having issues, feel free to join the discord and we’ll be able to help further: discord.gg/WvfJAp7A2d
hey so how does the seat estimation work? i've been trying to sir on my chair and i'm just hunching down, any ideas?
From what I've figured out you have to lean back as you sit
having a specific issue where my body goes into a weird position when my hip loses tracking when I sit on my couch. the only temp fix is calibrating the floor as my couch. it's a great software but this is annoying
Heads up for anyone with slimevr thinking about getting this, don't. It completely kills your skeleton in the app as they're incompatible. I found this out after buying it for a friend that has slime. Also lowkey annoying that can't do a T-pose for fun without entering the calibration mode accidentally. If you already have trackers, you'll basically only see the difference in your elbow tracking, nothing else. Only get this if you have no trackers at all or if the fallback would matter due to short battery time, not worth for mixed tracking imo.
Hello, it has a bug, when you calibrate, you validate, when your arms reach your thighs, there's another clicking sound that can mess up your legs
So if I understand correctly a good way to combine this with quest 3 upper body tracking through virtual desktop is to set the feet and knees (and possibly hips) to estimation override so the IK estimation from virtual desktop is ignored for those and standables better poses are used for lower body, but disable upper body in standable so you can get the real tracking from quest 3 through virtual desktop emulated trackers.
Right?
does doing it this way force standable trackers to be used and not the steam ones if they're active through VD in vrc for example tho?
Yes correct 👍
@@standable great thanks. really nice project. does standable add any amount of network latency when using airlink? I am aware you're working out a wrinkle with virtual desktop but it seems that I get crazy network spikes when using standable, without standable I can do the full 200 h265 with no issues, with standable I get stuttering but the cinch is if I lower my bitrate to 50mbps it's smooth again. If it's related I hope it helps you resolve the issue, I've paid for the app and don't intend to refund it so I hope this gets worked out sometime in future! I can't really switch to oculus link because I want to use the emulated vive trackers sadly. thx!
@@SLEEPYDOGINUStandable “shouldn’t” be causing any noticeable network latency though a few have mentioned issues.
I’ll look on my end to see if it’s something to do with the program itself. If i find a solution I’ll make sure to have it part of the next patch 👍
@@standable yeah I figured it shouldn't too, but maybe some conflict in the way VD handles tracking data i dunno. fwiw I have a 6E router on it's way tomorrow which will become my dedicated AP for my quest 3. I'll test standable with it again and let you know if there's any improvement. obviously it's not realistic for everyone to have a setup like that but if it helps ya get to the bottom of it. thanks anyway!
A positive point of the virtual desktop is that it can calculate exactly when you tilt your body,
I couldn't get this to work on standable
Is it possible to make both software work in parallel?
This way we would have the best of both worlds.
What do you do if the feet are at your shins how do you lower that and I did calibrate the floor
How did you find that main avatar you have? its so awesome!!!
@@Inzeptrix thanks! It’s actually custom made. I made it from scratch and been slowly iterating over the past 2 years. Glad you like it!
I do miss flicks though, it was a very fast/active way to recenter myself
(I also wonder if it's possible to mixed tracking with 1.1 and 2.0 lol)
how do I bend over? asking for a friend -- jokes aside, i notice with alternative body tracking estimation products when you bend forwards you actually bend, but on standable i'm just crouching when I bend. How do i fix this? it really affects immersion.
When I try to calibrate my floor it thinks I’m flying and won’t change
floor height completely broken, going afk and coming back also breaks floor height and we have to restart everything.
foot and elbow trackers are usually broken, moves looks too weird
Great tutorial and showdown of the app, but I want to know how if it can work with Quest 3 and the upper body tracking, just now I need to start Virtual Desktop and then start steam to get it to work and the functionality of that is not so good, like I can only use my elbows on the side, but if I try to put my hand on the elbow or pot my elbows together it do not work at all, so I just look for any other app that can use Quest 3 body tracking directly in SteamVR.
It can work with IOBT! I suggest joining the discord. Someone will be able to help you out there 👍 Discord: discord.gg/rJz9wvdGRG
have you been thinking of making your own physical trackets ?
Im using a meta 3 can't find calibration in quick action 😢
Hi, I just want a suggestion for any trackers that may work well with Standable. I want to be able to lift my legs and stuff, but I don't want the full package of control--Just like in the video--Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Any trackers that may have their own camera mainly. (I forgot the name)