Yep, different instruments respond in different ways. I don’t like to make generalizations about instruments, but if I don’t, I know people will ask the same questions!
I played in high school after starting on the flute in grade school. I'd like to start playing again but I really can't justify the cost of something I might hardly ever use. Nice channel.
Sir. There is in the market Single Bb with 4 Valve. How do u think of this, compare to F single?. Does the Bb with 4 valve already makes Better compare to F single?
We go by the fundamental pitch when naming what set of harmonics the Horn belongs to. Those pitches have names. And unlike other brass instruments, regardless of how long or short the Horn is, the bore and mouthpiece diameter are relatively the same. The only other size difference besides a simple difference in tubing length is bell size. The largest Horn is the lowest pitched Horn. The Single Horn in F. It is pitched in Concert F1. The name of that pitch is Double F Contra-Alto. You could call it Double F Bass since the pitch is the same, but, since the Horn doesn't have a Bass timbre, we simply use FF Contra-Alto because it is exactly one octave lower than F Alto or F2. The Bb Single Horn is pitched in Bb2. The name of that pitch is Bb Tenor. Moving along up the harmonic, we have the Eb Alto and F Alto F Horns. That's Eb2 and F2. These have a very noticeable smaller bell. And then there's the Bb Soprano Horn with a very tiny bell that you can't mute by hand inside. Pitched in Bb3. All of those these Horns have the same bore (maybe slight microscopic variations based on manufacturer) and mouthpiece which give them not much difference in tone from Horn to Horn. The largest contributor to any noticeable difference in tone, is not from the shorter or longer tubing, but from the larger or smaller bell sizes. Obviously the smaller the Horn the smaller the bell. So there you have it. Also, because the mouthpiece and bore are relatively the same for them all, the highest note is the same. Of course as the Horn gets larger and larger the more skill is required to play it but basically as the Horn gets larger the available set of lower pitches gets lower and lower. This is why the FF Contra-Alto F Horn has the largest range of all valved brass wind instruments. It can go really low and really high.
I'm 79 and playing a kinder horn because I love the sound.
Nice. The well-made ones are fun to play 📯👍
The Vienna F-Horn has different ventiles.
But I also heard Bruckner's Fourth seven times in Vienna. Three times they had to make a 'restart'.
Yep, pretty unforgiving things. But beautiful in the right hands...
That was fun. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bizarrely, I always found my single F far more free-blowing than doubles I tried. The stuffiness *really* depends on the instrument.
Yep, different instruments respond in different ways. I don’t like to make generalizations about instruments, but if I don’t, I know people will ask the same questions!
I played in high school after starting on the flute in grade school. I'd like to start playing again but I really can't justify the cost of something I might hardly ever use. Nice channel.
Hope you can find a cheap second hand horn one day, glad your enjoying the channel!
Sir. There is in the market Single Bb with 4 Valve. How do u think of this, compare to F single?. Does the Bb with 4 valve already makes Better compare to F single?
Video on the Bb single coming up on Friday I think, which will hopefully answer your question
Sir. Is it better the F or BB single sound ?
sadly i don’t play any other brass instruments (besides trombone), so i’m stuck with the dreaded chart
Basically F horn is just a tenor brass. Double horn is a combination of tenor and alto.
We go by the fundamental pitch when naming what set of harmonics the Horn belongs to. Those pitches have names. And unlike other brass instruments, regardless of how long or short the Horn is, the bore and mouthpiece diameter are relatively the same. The only other size difference besides a simple difference in tubing length is bell size. The largest Horn is the lowest pitched Horn. The Single Horn in F. It is pitched in Concert F1. The name of that pitch is Double F Contra-Alto. You could call it Double F Bass since the pitch is the same, but, since the Horn doesn't have a Bass timbre, we simply use FF Contra-Alto because it is exactly one octave lower than F Alto or F2. The Bb Single Horn is pitched in Bb2. The name of that pitch is Bb Tenor. Moving along up the harmonic, we have the Eb Alto and F Alto F Horns. That's Eb2 and F2. These have a very noticeable smaller bell. And then there's the Bb Soprano Horn with a very tiny bell that you can't mute by hand inside. Pitched in Bb3. All of those these Horns have the same bore (maybe slight microscopic variations based on manufacturer) and mouthpiece which give them not much difference in tone from Horn to Horn. The largest contributor to any noticeable difference in tone, is not from the shorter or longer tubing, but from the larger or smaller bell sizes. Obviously the smaller the Horn the smaller the bell. So there you have it. Also, because the mouthpiece and bore are relatively the same for them all, the highest note is the same. Of course as the Horn gets larger and larger the more skill is required to play it but basically as the Horn gets larger the available set of lower pitches gets lower and lower. This is why the FF Contra-Alto F Horn has the largest range of all valved brass wind instruments. It can go really low and really high.