wow that part about the air made something click for me. i finally realised that the emptiness of the air is the primordial component. in the past i had a hard time seeing space and therefore acknowledging anything but the objects due to what is called autism. know i understand the objects are rendered into emptiness just like a simulation.
I watched a movie today and as the blank screen gave way to the film images, I continued to see the screen anyway! It nearly ruined the movie as I could not get my mind off the screen and get involved or lost in the film! I finally stopped seeing just the screen and let my self mentally enter the movie whilst forgetting about the damned screen! LOL, the screen concept is useful to sense the underlying reality in everyday life but not while watching a movie!
During deep sleep Consciousness awareness is neither itself nor is it the separate self and hence nor the universe. During deep sleep the mind which functions as a medium between Consciousness and its misinterpretations, partially shuts itself down and holds Consciousness in a suspense or as a hostage during which time consciousness is neither with itself nor is it with the universe. Those who have managed to see the truth through the mind are the intelligent ones.
Trees and plants are in a state of extended deep sleep where the mind has no door to wake to its senses or to the wake state and a world that lies within the mind.
Maybe semantics, but can be confusing. For Francis Lucille deep sleep is only disorganised perception, and just a state. You can be aware of awareness in any state: waking state, dreaming state, deep sleep (maybe other states)
Much as i dig and have experienced this, the problem if the current global predicament, i do have something which can only represent as need to change/resist, is humanity continuing to act in a way that is causing its own extinction via overuse of the Earth. Yup, it's happening within the one mind of which we are part, but, can't just accept it, needs to be changed. Mostly by making everyone conscious of if, i guess.
Everything started when the ego-mind wanted to know, wanted the knowledge, wanted to experience the good and evil. The "problem" is the knowledge and the beliefs. Genesis 2:16 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (P)you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat[d] of it you (Q)shall surely die.” ""Shall surely die"" means that the ego-mind will imagen its death until it can illuminate or dissolve the belief or fixation of a thought.
Yes! I have always interpreted the apple tree episode in the Bible exactly like you just did. It's the first time I've met someone express this. Thank you !!
But he also says awareness is aware of itself, which is sometimes called 'Turiya' in deep sleep. Why isn't this knowing of awareness present in deep sleep?
Look its quite simple. In deep sleep (dreamless sleep) the mind is not there so memories are NOT recorded. When you wake up there is nothing to remember. So it appears that deep sleep of say 6 hours has past in an instance, but you would have been fully aware and in a state of blissful existence. Death is then the same as deep sleep. The most important point Rupert makes is that you are always aware no matter what, whether your in deep sleep, in dream sleep, or in the waking state or in death state. Only in dream sleep or in waking state is there a mind that records information as memory so we can recall the experience. Time and Space and hence the world of objects is manufactured by the mind only in the waking state and dream state.
@@FilmBritt that is because thought doesn't know it. though is an object inside the object called mind inside the movie. the screen just observes. when you are in deep sleep there's nothing to observe. so really you can't have any idea about it. you can only realise that you are always sleeping
@@joemuis23 Thank you! But why is the realization of eternity (the insight of what I am in essence) remembered but not deep sleep? (both is beyond mind)
what he says is that the first part of concioussness is emptiness. the air. what we conceptualize as invisible gas. within this emptiness it gets divided into the ever present object of the self and everything else. this is what causes the sense of unrest, while the emptiness "space" is always present.
Rupert, you say there's just Awareness, or consciousness, you said nothing comes from nothing, so where did Consciousness come from, it can't be just there. It should've come from something, or how did it start?
you are asking that from your mind Also awareness is not an object to ask this question it is the real you... You are aware of even that question also .... awareness(YOU) Simply is ... questions come from mind/ limited slef
When we are born we see everything around us so we think someone must have created it before but this question arise because we think we are born if you can go back and who is born actually mind and body not real you and question arises from state of mind who think you are born as body. Dont know it explain pure consciousness or knowing who has never born so never die.
How about the immense suffering of little children and even more - innocent animals? Where is their infinite suffering coming from? They are not opposing anything. They are powerless victims arriving in this world. It would be great if I could get an answer from up there in the ivory tower. Thank you.
I honestly have no word's but praise for this man.
me too
Me too im sure he would smile but be indifferent.
Rupert is a true "Sage".
Rupert is enchanting
I love you Rupert 💚
deep sleep is the best sensation ever you get to relax and your mind stops for rest
Rupert! Thank you!!!
thank you again rupert
wow that part about the air made something click for me. i finally realised that the emptiness of the air is the primordial component. in the past i had a hard time seeing space and therefore acknowledging anything but the objects due to what is called autism.
know i understand the objects are rendered into emptiness just like a simulation.
I watched a movie today and as the blank screen gave way to the film images, I continued to see the screen anyway! It nearly ruined the movie as I could not get my mind off the screen and get involved or lost in the film! I finally stopped seeing just the screen and let my self mentally enter the movie whilst forgetting about the damned screen! LOL, the screen concept is useful to sense the underlying reality in everyday life but not while watching a movie!
That's why people are lost in the illusion. They also came in looking to watch the movie.
During deep sleep Consciousness awareness is neither itself nor is it the separate self and hence nor the universe. During deep sleep the mind which functions as a medium between Consciousness and its misinterpretations, partially shuts itself down and holds Consciousness in a suspense or as a hostage during which time consciousness is neither with itself nor is it with the universe. Those who have managed to see the truth through the mind are the intelligent ones.
Trees and plants are in a state of extended deep sleep where the mind has no door to wake to its senses or to the wake state and a world that lies within the mind.
Just immediate unmitigated joy after seeing this!
Thank you very much, Rupert! :)
Thank you
Sublime !
Non Duality English style, does it get any better..
Maybe semantics, but can be confusing. For Francis Lucille deep sleep is only disorganised perception, and just a state. You can be aware of awareness in any state: waking state, dreaming state, deep sleep (maybe other states)
Is the meditation session being referred to in this discussion available on RUclips? If so, Could someone post a link?
Much as i dig and have experienced this, the problem if the current global predicament, i do have something which can only represent as need to change/resist, is humanity continuing to act in a way that is causing its own extinction via overuse of the Earth. Yup, it's happening within the one mind of which we are part, but, can't just accept it, needs to be changed. Mostly by making everyone conscious of if, i guess.
Everything started when
the ego-mind wanted to
know, wanted the
knowledge, wanted to
experience the good
and evil.
The "problem" is the
knowledge and the beliefs.
Genesis 2:16
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (P)you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat[d] of it you (Q)shall surely die.”
""Shall surely die"" means that the
ego-mind will imagen its
death until it can
illuminate or dissolve
the belief or fixation of a
thought.
Yes!
I have always interpreted the apple tree episode in the Bible exactly like you just did.
It's the first time I've met someone express this.
Thank you !!
This might also be called "self acceptance" which also brings "happiness" or "relief".
Doe you have subtiele?
But he also says awareness is aware of itself, which is sometimes called 'Turiya' in deep sleep. Why isn't this knowing of awareness present in deep sleep?
I must be dreaming.
Look its quite simple. In deep sleep (dreamless sleep) the mind is not there so memories are NOT recorded. When you wake up there is nothing to remember. So it appears that deep sleep of say 6 hours has past in an instance, but you would have been fully aware and in a state of blissful existence. Death is then the same as deep sleep. The most important point Rupert makes is that you are always aware no matter what, whether your in deep sleep, in dream sleep, or in the waking state or in death state. Only in dream sleep or in waking state is there a mind that records information as memory so we can recall the experience. Time and Space and hence the world of objects is manufactured by the mind only in the waking state and dream state.
I am not aware that I am aware in deep sleep. :-/
You are depending on thought and memory that was not there. Hence you will not be able to remember the experience.
If I am very honest, I have no idea if I enter the so called "deep sleep" during night. Deep sleep is just a concept for me.
@@FilmBritt that is because thought doesn't know it. though is an object inside the object called mind inside the movie. the screen just observes. when you are in deep sleep there's nothing to observe. so really you can't have any idea about it.
you can only realise that you are always sleeping
@@joemuis23 Thank you! But why is the realization of eternity (the insight of what I am in essence) remembered but not deep sleep? (both is beyond mind)
I dont get this. So frustrated. It is not my native lanquage😔
what he says is that the first part of concioussness is emptiness. the air. what we conceptualize as invisible gas. within this emptiness it gets divided into the ever present object of the self and everything else. this is what causes the sense of unrest, while the emptiness "space" is always present.
An inner recognition/realization is remembered, but being aware in deep sleep is not?
Rupert, you say there's just Awareness, or consciousness, you said nothing comes from nothing, so where did Consciousness come from, it can't be just there. It should've come from something, or how did it start?
you are asking that from your mind
Also awareness is not an object to ask this question it is the real you...
You are aware of even that question also .... awareness(YOU) Simply is ... questions come from mind/ limited slef
This question is from waking state.. question from there is must be something..when reality is beyond something and nothing
When we are born we see everything around us so we think someone must have created it before but this question arise because we think we are born if you can go back and who is born actually mind and body not real you and question arises from state of mind who think you are born as body. Dont know it explain pure consciousness or knowing who has never born so never die.
How about the immense suffering of little children and even more - innocent animals? Where is their infinite suffering coming from? They are not opposing anything. They are powerless victims arriving in this world. It would be great if I could get an answer from up there in the ivory tower. Thank you.
Ask yourself: To whom the suffering appears ?
I did ask myself.
You are Ramanamaharishi
he is a buddha