Most often, sadly, the family members, and loved ones, who are victimized by their child, wife, husband, brother, sister, are persuaded to drop the charges, and/or not prosecute/testify.
@@newhorizon1355 You forgot the part where Batman was suppose to offer the troubled youth some one-on-one life advice before he played out his violent fantasies.
Terrible occurrence. On another note, thanks to the Sheriff for repeating or clarifying questions before answering since listeners often can’t hear the original questions.
From someone who has gone through mental illness with my young son, the help is mostly marginal. After 3 years we finally found the cause, many mainstream couldn't find the cause only medication to mask it at best. You have to find the root cause! So sad for this family, we live just not understanding how toxic we are.
i try to explain to family that we need to build each other up and stop tearing each other apart. It ALL starts at home. I f you get so emotional at a stranger on the road or where-ever and are about to just let them have it, find something to complement them on. My bet is most people can not! This is a new practice for me as i have a high iq bullshit meter, to try and see the good in people not their worst.
@@Demonglo- Exactly, they blame for lack of expertise. An alternative specialist in Miami found the toxins and infection in his brain, like lyme,mold,strep,etc pandas not the bear an infection in the blood brain barrier...... no longer behavior is a coincidence
My elderly neighbor has a brain damaged son from drugs and being mugged...the cops come several times a year and now that the father just died, every neighbor I've talked to is scared her son is going to finally get violent. She is 90% deaf and they scream argue all the time. 3 neighbors, 2 long time, have moved out because they don't feel safe anymore. We all are very aware how there is no mental health or gun solution so it's just a matter of time before he stabs or shoots people. He can't support himself at all.
Have you called the police? Have they done anything about it?? Not being mean i just hope and pray something is being done about it. This sounds urgent.
Everyone has the right to the peaceful enjoyment of their homes and property . This is a public nuisance and public health and safety situation . The law, including a judge committing the son to a state facility are in order. Do not allow someone else's mental illness affect your peace of mind when there are options . I hope you and your neighbors see a remedy here . This is a horrible situation ...
Sad the officers had to witness the suspect killing the mother that has to be traumatic. A real PTSD event. Cops have to walk a fine line shoot don’t shoot, they seem to wait an extra second these days. Families who have mentally ill within the household should not have firearms inside. Maybe the parents had one. This sheriff did a great job. At least he tells the facts as they know them now. Instead of authorities sugarcoating press conferences . Best wishes to the deputy injured, and all those on scene.
@@sunnyday7457the root of the problem is mental health here and addressing that issue with mental hospitals is the answer, quit blaming the gun or your so called ‘culture’. It’s not wrong wanting or having protection, what’s wrong is not addressing the real issues of mental health and act as if the average citizen is supposed to be experts in family with mental health issues and forced to live with it. This includes those living in the streets, where’s the compassion for them… they need institutions to help them as well.
@@sunnyday7457 You sound like you're terrified of guns. I would be too if I was ignorant of the actual gun culture and 2a advocates. Guns are like cars, they're your right to own, but both come with lots of responsibility and risks. I could just as easily use your argument on guns for cars. Seeing lots of idiots speeding on the roads, whether for fun or from the police is a danger and also people who road-rage, using their cars as a weapon, is a threat to our society. What's so crazy and shouldn't be possible is the fact that you can acquire a car on the streets so easily, just ask the Kia Boys! In that case, we should BAN all vehicles to rid the murdering and crime spree!
@@Kayak_233obviously he got the gun illegally. The sheriff said right in the video that the guns were already removed, that they were in the sheriff's department custody as the suspect was deemed mentally ill.
@@sunnyday7457 So what you are saying is if we didnt have a gun culture there wouldnt be unnecessary murders? Hmm, i guess the criminals would comply as well. Derp.
@@HighlanderJosh Your argument isn’t even remotely valid because driving is not a right in this country it’s a privilege. You have to register your car annually. You have to insure your car. You have specific laws to follow. I would love it if guns were treated the same way. All registered, all insured. And in addition, laws in place to prevent felons and mentally ill from owning them. Cars were not built for killing. Guns are built for killing. I am a gun owner but I believe gun nuts like you are not thinking responsibly. There is a toxic gun culture in this country. It is a problem not easily solved, and certainly not solved by people with your attitude.
So, the cops were on the scene in three minutes, yet they allow the shooter to walk up behind his mother, wo was outside of the house, and shoot her in the head?
They have to ensure they are protected first. Mom should have hauled ass away from the scene long before police arrived. She decided to stay on property with the shooter.
@@LumiOlpero Yes officer safety is always 1st... So when you see a LEO know that your safety just took a back seat to theirs... At the same time "serve and protect" (eye roll)
@vapnut You're one of those who always blame the cops and yet wouldn't lift a finger seeing a tragedy like that unfold. Keep those snarky comment to yourself.
D-evil ~ D=4 and at the last supper table, the 4th person is anDRew/a new DR which means they are not mEDical DR's and they have the most 'green' aka $ and po$ITion$ as they are 'the power$ that be' ~ green over ORANGE is a FALL color before WINter ~ notice that on your left when you view the last supper, there are only 3 VIP in 4 groups and only 3 VIP have GREEN ROBes$ and 2 have green only on their LEFT side over BLUE ~ JUDAS$ = 55 = SANTA/SATAN is the gift giver who takes what HE pleases is a JUDGE = 47 = CAESAR and JESUS = 74/47 is the 1st and the last JUDGE says 'give to Caesar what belongs to CAESAR/SEAcar is a SHIP as in relationSHIP$ ~
Mental health care in This country is a sick joke. Good luck finding a decent provider at all let alone for most to afford it, even with insurance. Something needs to change.
Most mental health issues are created from trauma. At 19yo, more than likely his parents caused his illness. It's not the system that needs changed, it's the parents who do.
In the old days, humans who had mental health issues were deemed too violent to be among society locked away in a mental institution. As for the firearm, I believe it may have been his parents that he got access to.
There is no way u will prevent all of this no matter what measures u have in place. The bigger question is why people do the shit that they do!!😩 it’s sad and things are only getting worse😢
Why was he then allowed to get so close to his mom and officer outside? I’m not law enforcement but have seen instances where persons are told to halt, don’t come close. My sympathies are with the diciest and their families. 👼🏼
How often have you seen the perpetrator stop immediately, drop the gun, raise their hands and say “so sorry, don’t know what I was thinking”? Or, less sarcastically, just stop? This guy evidently had a history of mental illness which may mean reasonable and logical responses can’t be expected. Similar to someone being high.
Why the fk does it take 10 violent calls to police for help was something not done to get the adult kid behind bars! Justice was not done and 3 people are dead now.
Why did the parents allow a violent adult child to remain in their home? They allowed him there and did not get a restraining order. People need to take responsibility for their own decisions.
@@AFloridaSon - Has nothing to do with the color of the county. I live in a red county and we had a father shoot his daughter (child) in the back during a psychotic episode. He had these episodes (sadly they were drug induced) a couple of times before from what I remember. The cops were always called when there was an issue. Yet...
@@LumiOlperothe calls for help started when he was still a minor. Clearly he never received the help the parents were begging for. He should have been forced into treatment back in 2021, based on what the Sheriff reported.
I'm a neighbor in the subdivision across the way and need to see a pic of suspect to confirm but believe this could be the same kid I had an encounter with in December - was following me around talking about weapons. This is devastating.
@SpecialOperator I sent my friend a video that day while I was walking explaining my encounter and how I was scared. It's chilling watching it back. But I do believe he just wanted someone to talk to. It's been mentioned somewhere that he was autistic. It makes sense how he could follow a stranger around different roads and culdesacs being chatty over an obsession.
God bless the DEPUTIES… THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I FEEL BETTER KNOWING YOU ARE PROTECTING US. SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF LIFE. PRAYING FOR ALL OF YOU. I hope you all are able to go home and celebrate Father’s Day with your family again you are in my prayers for your service.
That , and the tactical Black Ops Call of Duty "Experts" and Sofa Spud SWAT Team members trying to blame the Cops ,and asking " How dey let dis , and dat, and dis otha thing happun"?
Calling him a monster detracts from the fact that this guy seemed quite normal to most people before this happened. Name calling is counterproductive. He was a son and a family member who did a monstrous thing. Please help people be aware that these crimes are often committed by people whom they know or love.
It's hard to believe this happened to the family that lived just across the street. It's truly sad. Last night was incredibly intense. I often saw him walking around the neighborhood, and it was clear he needed some mental health support. Unfortunately, it seemed like his parents didn't take it seriously enough. Rest in peace.
Department of mental health ? 😂 they dont do shit, just like the rest of our government. Of its not taxes, money, defense, or war oriented.... the US says fuck em
No one said for good!! But, the department of mental health has a right to ask the court for a evaluation of the son based on his prior history with law enforcement and his threats. It's usually is a 10 day evaluation.
This is an amazing sheriff. Great communication and can tell he is extremely supportive of his deputies. We need that more often in city police leaders. Great work Sheriff!
1) He NEVER should have been allowed to walk up behind his mother. They already knew that the father was shot by him, via the 911 call. 2) He NEVER should have been allowed to crawl back into the house, with or without his firearm. They didn't know if his father was still alive or not, so PRIORITY should have immediately gone to an attempted rescue. The failure by those on scene to act accordingly is shameful.
Sheriff you know as well as most of us do that taking someone's firearms does absolutely NOTHING to prevent them from having another firearm within an hour or less. He may easily have had another firearm secreted away that was not taken. Don't play the shocked look for the cameras, it's demeaning to the whole department.
Exactly, what about the 3 deceased persons family..this is awefull tragedy. The sun had Mental issues..we will probably never know what the history was with the parents or the son.
The mother and father raised the monster that killed them. You didn't know the mom & dad. You don't know anything but a delusional thought process called freelance fictional keyboard warriorism to invoke responses for your pleasure. You know ... a TROLL.
@@shadyganley8877 So you're telling me that you must be in law enforcement to say whether or not it's a problem to allow a man who's already killed others to walk up behind his mother and shoot her in the head assassination style WHILE she's talking to the cops?? Is that what tyou're saying? Nope, but was in the military and that shit wouldn't have happened there. He would have been too full of holes to shoot anyone else.
I have a nephew also with TBI from being mugged by a group. He becomes argumentative because the TBI can make him impatient or want something that's not good for him. His parents intervene to keep him on the right track. He can become sullen and pout, retreating to watching TV or going to his room, but he has never become violent. He is a well-built and strong adult but no one is scared of him. It is vitally important that someone connect this woman with a support group specific to TBI - please. Members of the group will be able to put her in touch with therapists and other support where she can learn what brain functions his TBI has impaired and how to deal with it. If one of her close neighbors with whom she is friends can go with her to meet with the group or a specially trained resource, perhaps they can detail the woman's situation and stress that because of her age it is important that a specialized residential place be found for her son. There is no need to go scaring her neighbors into moving away. Please try to help both of them instead of ganging up on the son.
10 calls to this residence A Risk Protection Order was in place Stop right there!!!!! The suspect should have been baker acted PERIOD This could’ve been avoided and it wasn’t. HCSO didn’t keep the family safe.
@@Gypsygirl9 it’s a start to getting the proper help. He was a danger to his family and himself. This could’ve been avoided!!!! 10 calls to this residence is excessive!!!!
@@jacinthmcintosh3059yup, and then they protect themselves before the victims. The watched this guy walk out of the house, up behind his mother, take aim, and shoot her. The did not prevent that. They did not administer first aid to her, like they did their teammate. They're congratulating themselves for a job well done, according to their extensive training, yet they did not prevent a single act. Always a day late and a dollar short.
@@Gypsygirl9you are correct about the Baker Act, but some of those calls the mother made were pleas for mental health assistance for her son. That OBVIOUSLY never happened. The Baker Act should be used to evaluate and lead to further care.
Love that the sheriffs information to the public was firm, competent and direct with details flowing without hesitation and able to be given without interference.
Curious, did any of the deputies have rifles? It's an impossible situation, but I'm curious if they roll in with rifles instead of side arms on a call where there's a shooter.
Our country is suffering from a mental health crisis. 😢 Sending love, light and positive healing energy to all the deputies who responded. My friend was on scene in Dallas 7/7/16 and he saw his friend get shot right next to him (RIP). The things our LEO's see on a daily basis are sometimes so horrible I fear for their mental health. Thank you for all you do for our safety. 💙
He kept saying “We Don’t Know”.. but they knew because the Mother told the dispatcher exactly what was going on..then they Arrive on scene, set up a tactical position and STILL let him come up behind the Mother..while they were talking to her? 😩Call the police and still get killed 😩 they couldn’t hit the side of a barn.
I live right across Ehrlich, roughly 1000 feet away from the scene and I heard the gun shots and saw the police activity shortly afterwards. This is harrowing news to hear. My heart goes out to the family and neighbors.
@billkraemer4710 Sheriff said they had seized his firearms so they need to find out how he was able to get a gun. Then later said again that they have his guns so they want to find out where/ how he was able to obtain the gun used.
Why wasn't the Mom immediately taken into safety? Doesn't quite make sense that enforcement officers would just let her stand there, totally exposed. Her death could have been avoided had they taken her out of harm's way IMMEDIATELY!!
We have the best Sheriff’s in the Suncoast Region! Wells, Nocco, Gualtieri, Chronister and GRADY who paved the way for ypu all to tell the public the hard facts that many in systems roles would never say ! As Sheriff Judd said recently “ he har some screws lose and my deputies had to tighten them up” Thank you! Happy Father’s Day to you all & thoughts with your CiRT/ SERT folks and staff at St. Jes.
Most of those counties would not have allowed the son to walk up and shoot the mom while they were talking to her. There's no way that I would put Chronister in the same category as Judd. I'm sorry for the deputy who was shot, but not stopping the son before he got to mom makes them culpable in her death. That's nothing to brag about.
Some parents as well. Don't leave the parents blameless. It takes two to tango and in families with male children the mother is the default parent in the dance who stands by watching the tango between the father and son until she has no choice but to get involved and it's never a good ending
I'm very impressed by this Sheriff's communication skills. Spokespeople are not always good speakers...oddly. He seems to be a very good leader for his Deputies. I hope the injured Deputy makes a full and speedy recovery.💙
@@Ailenna President Ronald Reagan decided to cancel funding for state mental health evaluation in 1982. Prior to 1982; a family member could have a relative committed to determine whether that person pose a risk of harming themselves or others. The 72 hours hold was a safety net.
@@Ailenna Dear heart; When the police officer said; "...There had previously been ten 911 calls to that house. That two of those calls were related to mental issues ". From the that alone, the young man was in need of intervention.
Sheriff. Listen as he speaks without talking points (he's holding them, doesn't need them) because he knows the case, it's heartfelt. Bless you. Happy Father's Day, somehow, some way. My love friends, from DC.
I know he is the sherrif and he has to give a certain impression but claiming that inflicting harm or the use of viol. is never justified sounds absolutley ridiculous ane utterly immature especially comming from a man who may be armed. The truth is viol. saves lives every day and has prevented or ended some of the most horrible things throughout history. Im tired of being spoken to like a 13 year old by our government just because the lowest common denomenator of society needs to be treated like children.
"Oh. We had great response time of 3 minutes" and what happened after that? "We watched a mother get executed in front of us, then we got shot at". Are you okkay? " yeah, 5 of us got hit and we returned fire". And after that? "We waited for the robot to go in and see if the father bled out while we were taking cover and tended to our wounded". "But we got here in 3 minutes". Thank god you saved everyone, I mean saved yourselves.
Why was he not arrested for violence he had inflected on his parents in the past? So who refused to put him away?
This is the easy question why don't you ask why did police allow this active shooter to walk up in front of them and shoot this woman
Democrats
Most often, sadly, the family members, and loved ones, who are victimized by their child, wife, husband, brother, sister, are persuaded to drop the charges, and/or not prosecute/testify.
@@garypiatt4666 I hope they say why…
I kicked my son out for less…now he is such an upstanding individual who thanks me for being tough on him all the time ❤️
Imagine giving life, sheltering,& raising a person, & this is their way of showing appreciation.
You totally missed the whole point.
@@PJTYLER Please tell me what part of my comment missed the point..I'll wait.
“Guarantee they never spanked this piece of shit”
@@newhorizon1355 You forgot the part where Batman was suppose to offer the troubled youth some one-on-one life advice before he played out his violent fantasies.
@@PJTYLERmore like you did
Terrible occurrence. On another note, thanks to the Sheriff for repeating or clarifying questions before answering since listeners often can’t hear the original questions.
After ten times on record ,why was he not removed from the residence ?
It doesnt work that way!
And do what with him?
They couldn't baker act him?
Get well soon, Deputies. We need you and people like you.
From someone who has gone through mental illness with my young son, the help is mostly marginal. After 3 years we finally found the cause, many mainstream couldn't find the cause only medication to mask it at best. You have to find the root cause! So sad for this family, we live just not understanding how toxic we are.
i try to explain to family that we need to build each other up and stop tearing each other apart. It ALL starts at home. I f you get so emotional at a stranger on the road or where-ever and are about to just let them have it, find something to complement them on. My bet is most people can not! This is a new practice for me as i have a high iq bullshit meter, to try and see the good in people not their worst.
And half the people in the comments will blame you for your son's mental issues. Sadly.
@@Demonglo- Exactly, they blame for lack of expertise. An alternative specialist in Miami found the toxins and infection in his brain, like lyme,mold,strep,etc pandas not the bear an infection in the blood brain barrier...... no longer behavior is a coincidence
DNA
May I ask the root cause you found?
My elderly neighbor has a brain damaged son from drugs and being mugged...the cops come several times a year and now that the father just died, every neighbor I've talked to is scared her son is going to finally get violent. She is 90% deaf and they scream argue all the time.
3 neighbors, 2 long time, have moved out because they don't feel safe anymore. We all are very aware how there is no mental health or gun solution so it's just a matter of time before he stabs or shoots people. He can't support himself at all.
Jesus Christ please intervene and remove anything not of You as only You can do. Light be. Amen
Getting stuck living next to awful neighbors is the absolute worst thing you can experience, in a lot of ways.
Have you called the police? Have they done anything about it?? Not being mean i just hope and pray something is being done about it. This sounds urgent.
Everyone has the right to the peaceful enjoyment of their homes and property . This is a public nuisance and public health and safety situation . The law, including a judge committing the son to a state facility are in order.
Do not allow someone else's mental illness affect your peace of mind when there are options .
I hope you and your neighbors see a remedy here . This is a horrible situation ...
The government is using these situations to make us fearful enough to give up our guns. That's why the mentally unstable are not helped.
Sad the officers had to witness the suspect killing the mother that has to be traumatic. A real PTSD event. Cops have to walk a fine line shoot don’t shoot, they seem to wait an extra second these days.
Families who have mentally ill within the household should not have firearms inside. Maybe the parents had one.
This sheriff did a great job. At least he tells the facts as they know them now. Instead of authorities sugarcoating press conferences .
Best wishes to the deputy injured, and all those on scene.
@@sunnyday7457the root of the problem is mental health here and addressing that issue with mental hospitals is the answer, quit blaming the gun or your so called ‘culture’. It’s not wrong wanting or having protection, what’s wrong is not addressing the real issues of mental health and act as if the average citizen is supposed to be experts in family with mental health issues and forced to live with it. This includes those living in the streets, where’s the compassion for them… they need institutions to help them as well.
@@sunnyday7457 You sound like you're terrified of guns. I would be too if I was ignorant of the actual gun culture and 2a advocates. Guns are like cars, they're your right to own, but both come with lots of responsibility and risks. I could just as easily use your argument on guns for cars. Seeing lots of idiots speeding on the roads, whether for fun or from the police is a danger and also people who road-rage, using their cars as a weapon, is a threat to our society. What's so crazy and shouldn't be possible is the fact that you can acquire a car on the streets so easily, just ask the Kia Boys! In that case, we should BAN all vehicles to rid the murdering and crime spree!
@@Kayak_233obviously he got the gun illegally. The sheriff said right in the video that the guns were already removed, that they were in the sheriff's department custody as the suspect was deemed mentally ill.
@@sunnyday7457 So what you are saying is if we didnt have a gun culture there wouldnt be unnecessary murders? Hmm, i guess the criminals would comply as well. Derp.
@@HighlanderJosh Your argument isn’t even remotely valid because driving is not a right in this country it’s a privilege. You have to register your car annually. You have to insure your car. You have specific laws to follow. I would love it if guns were treated the same way. All registered, all insured. And in addition, laws in place to prevent felons and mentally ill from owning them. Cars were not built for killing. Guns are built for killing. I am a gun owner but I believe gun nuts like you are not thinking responsibly. There is a toxic gun culture in this country. It is a problem not easily solved, and certainly not solved by people with your attitude.
So, the cops were on the scene in three minutes, yet they allow the shooter to walk up behind his mother, wo was outside of the house, and shoot her in the head?
Morgan and Morgan
When seconds count the police are minutes away. Stay well armed
They have to ensure they are protected first. Mom should have hauled ass away from the scene long before police arrived. She decided to stay on property with the shooter.
@@LumiOlpero Yes officer safety is always 1st... So when you see a LEO know that your safety just took a back seat to theirs... At the same time "serve and protect" (eye roll)
@vapnut You're one of those who always blame the cops and yet wouldn't lift a finger seeing a tragedy like that unfold. Keep those snarky comment to yourself.
This world is a mess. The devil is running wild😮
The world? You mean the USA, where everyone has a gun.
An yes merica land.of the insecure
John 13:27
No further explanation needed.
@@kingjohn1974 No, the whole world is a mess. Not only the USA. Other places without a lot of violence still have their own problems.
D-evil ~ D=4 and at the last supper table, the 4th person is anDRew/a new DR which means they are not mEDical DR's and they have the most 'green' aka $ and po$ITion$ as they are 'the power$ that be' ~ green over ORANGE is a FALL color before WINter ~ notice that on your left when you view the last supper, there are only 3 VIP in 4 groups and only 3 VIP have GREEN ROBes$ and 2 have green only on their LEFT side over BLUE ~ JUDAS$ = 55 = SANTA/SATAN is the gift giver who takes what HE pleases is a JUDGE = 47 = CAESAR and JESUS = 74/47 is the 1st and the last JUDGE says 'give to Caesar what belongs to CAESAR/SEAcar is a SHIP as in relationSHIP$ ~
This younger generation cannot handle things.
It’s almost scary how unprepared they are for life.
Thats how they were brought up by the older generation
Yeah they don't have the economic luxury Boomers had to buy a house on a cashier's wages.
@@FailedChadLite Finances have nothing to do with being a psychopath murderer. Stop with the excuses!
LOL how delusional are you boomer? Majority of shootings (by far) are every single other older generation.
Mental health care in This country is a sick joke. Good luck finding a decent provider at all let alone for most to afford it, even with insurance. Something needs to change.
I had a fabulous therapist. (Not in Florida). Alas, she caught covid and died. I haven't found another therapist.
You don’t see the good Lord, the devil will see you
There's no such thing as good insurance, or good mental health care.
Unfortunately, it is about health insurance and access to providers who take it affordably.
I agree. Free or sliding scale psychiatrists and psychologists and LSW's who work for these entities are the bottom of the barrel.
Thank you so much for our men and women that gives their lives to protect us. Prayers for everyone.
I pray the deputy has a full recovery. And there are ignorant people who want social workers to go to mental health calls.
Buddy he had a gun. NO ONE would say don't send the cops he just needs to talk
Yes, MH/SW are responding with LEO’s designated to respond tp high ridk, rapid readmissions to CSU’s / ED.
Grady Judd, Sheriff Polk “ if you have a gun fight with MY Deputies.. .be prepared
They respond with officers and also wear vest. Stop listening to Fox "news."
Ppl unfortunately jump on a bandwagon & go about things the wrong way. Ppl have to absolutely 100% be policed & im a (former) criminal.
My sister was a psych nurse in CT for 30 years. There is a big difference between mentally ill and criminally insane! Its horrible for all.
True. Thanks for putting that out there. 😊
Another sad story of mental illness. The system needs changed.
Most mental health issues are created from trauma. At 19yo, more than likely his parents caused his illness. It's not the system that needs changed, it's the parents who do.
Bidens America.
Flori-duh has easy access to guns.
@@nomenclature9373 liar
Cannabis induced psychosis. Google it.
awful! heartbreaking 💔
Wow 19 yrs olds
What happened as a result of the previous 10 calls on record? It sounds like this was totally preventable.
In the old days, humans who had mental health issues were deemed too violent to be among society locked away in a mental institution. As for the firearm, I believe it may have been his parents that he got access to.
Ronald Reagan from the old days: Hold the jelly bean while I open the asylums.
They 100 percent need to open asylums again for all our safety
@@nomenclature9373 Closing the psych hospitals started during JFK’s administration
Psych Hospitals were closed because LAWSUITS were brought against the facilities for Abusing the Disabled💯FACT. DO YOUR HOMEWORK YOU SOUND IGNORANT
The ACLU got many of the asylum closed as well.
Same old story and the biggest problem is the legal system not doing their job way before it got to this point !
I'm sure the parents could have done more to get him help.
@@grandmaida7819 apparently not, they aren't alive anymore are they?
There is no way u will prevent all of this no matter what measures u have in place. The bigger question is why people do the shit that they do!!😩 it’s sad and things are only getting worse😢
That is a problem, but THE biggest problem? No
@@ReapingTheHarvest sure whatever...
Prayers for this officer and all officers involved!
Prayers for the deputy full recovery 🙏
Thoughts and prayers for Mr. Magoo.
We hope you have a speedy recovery
Prayers for the injured deputy , and his family .🙏🙏
This one is a real bummer. Too many sick people roaming free out there.
Change the mental health laws. Change them now.
Laws won't matter, it doesn't now.
Why was he then allowed to get so close to his mom and officer outside? I’m not law enforcement but have seen instances where persons are told to halt, don’t come close.
My sympathies are with the diciest and their families. 👼🏼
That was my question also. WTH
"Halt, don't come close" yeah ok 😂
Yeah, they don't have bragging rights on this one.
How often have you seen the perpetrator stop immediately, drop the gun, raise their hands and say “so sorry, don’t know what I was thinking”? Or, less sarcastically, just stop? This guy evidently had a history of mental illness which may mean reasonable and logical responses can’t be expected. Similar to someone being high.
Jesus, you people are so incapable of intelligent thought!
How does bad guy walk into front yard, shoot, and then crawl back to house whilst surrounded by police?
Yep!! Read my comment!
They CAN’T shoot him in the back…if his gun is not up & pointing towards them, they don’t shot.
🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Exactly! Read my comment
Exactly
Why the fk does it take 10 violent calls to police for help was something not done to get the adult kid behind bars! Justice was not done and 3 people are dead now.
Why did the parents allow a violent adult child to remain in their home? They allowed him there and did not get a restraining order. People need to take responsibility for their own decisions.
That's what happens when you live in a blue county. Prosecutors don't believe in holding bad people accountable.
@@AFloridaSon - Has nothing to do with the color of the county. I live in a red county and we had a father shoot his daughter (child) in the back during a psychotic episode. He had these episodes (sadly they were drug induced) a couple of times before from what I remember. The cops were always called when there was an issue. Yet...
@@LumiOlperothe calls for help started when he was still a minor. Clearly he never received the help the parents were begging for. He should have been forced into treatment back in 2021, based on what the Sheriff reported.
@AFloridaSon This is Tampa florida. It's red as can be, your thinking of Miami which is closer to blue.
I'm a neighbor in the subdivision across the way and need to see a pic of suspect to confirm but believe this could be the same kid I had an encounter with in December - was following me around talking about weapons. This is devastating.
Please let us know❤
Was he thin and have long hair?
And what was he saying exactly?
I'm just trying to understand how a kid can reach the point of killing it's parents.
@@SpecialOperator yes I talked to a neighbor and have since confirmed this is the same kid.
@SpecialOperator I sent my friend a video that day while I was walking explaining my encounter and how I was scared. It's chilling watching it back. But I do believe he just wanted someone to talk to. It's been mentioned somewhere that he was autistic. It makes sense how he could follow a stranger around different roads and culdesacs being chatty over an obsession.
God bless the DEPUTIES… THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I FEEL BETTER KNOWING YOU ARE PROTECTING US. SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF LIFE. PRAYING FOR ALL OF YOU. I hope you all are able to go home and celebrate Father’s Day with your family again you are in my prayers for your service.
I'm just here for the RUclips expert lawyer judgments from a 10 min briefing with no prior knowledge of this guy or his family 😂
I know 😂😂
That , and the tactical Black Ops Call of Duty "Experts" and Sofa Spud SWAT Team members trying to blame the Cops ,and asking " How dey let dis , and dat, and dis otha thing happun"?
How did he get so close to the mother without being terminated
$shit happens fast.
How didn't the cop jumpshot 360 no scope him by jumping through the window before he killed his mom?
Noob cops
This is the worst Father's day weekend as a Nation, that I can remember. 62 yr. I worry so much about what my grandchildren are going to live through.
Calling him a monster detracts from the fact that this guy seemed quite normal to most people before this happened. Name calling is counterproductive. He was a son and a family member who did a monstrous thing. Please help people be aware that these crimes are often committed by people whom they know or love.
It's hard to believe this happened to the family that lived just across the street. It's truly sad. Last night was incredibly intense. I often saw him walking around the neighborhood, and it was clear he needed some mental health support. Unfortunately, it seemed like his parents didn't take it seriously enough. Rest in peace.
The department of mental health should have got a court order to confine the son long ago!
What all do you know about his detailed history, I didn't hear any of that mentioned?
Tell me about this court order that can be obtained to put someone away for good, you can't, because there's no such thing
Department of mental health ? 😂 they dont do shit, just like the rest of our government.
Of its not taxes, money, defense, or war oriented.... the US says fuck em
No one said for good!! But, the department of mental health has a right to ask the court for a evaluation of the son based on his prior history with law enforcement and his threats. It's usually is a 10 day evaluation.
This is an amazing sheriff. Great communication and can tell he is extremely supportive of his deputies. We need that more often in city police leaders. Great work Sheriff!
Happy Father's Day to all the good dads out there
1) He NEVER should have been allowed to walk up behind his mother. They already knew that the father was shot by him, via the 911 call. 2) He NEVER should have been allowed to crawl back into the house, with or without his firearm. They didn't know if his father was still alive or not, so PRIORITY should have immediately gone to an attempted rescue. The failure by those on scene to act accordingly is shameful.
Sheriff you know as well as most of us do that taking someone's firearms does absolutely NOTHING to prevent them from having another firearm within an hour or less. He may easily have had another firearm secreted away that was not taken. Don't play the shocked look for the cameras, it's demeaning to the whole department.
His verbage is all about the officers lives being the most important thing, not the poor Mother and Father.
Exactly, what about the 3 deceased persons family..this is awefull tragedy. The sun had Mental issues..we will probably never know what the history was with the parents or the son.
What should he have done start crying about them? Would that make you feel better?
The mother and father raised the monster that killed them. You didn't know the mom & dad. You don't know anything but a delusional thought process called freelance fictional keyboard warriorism to invoke responses for your pleasure. You know ... a TROLL.
It's "Pretty Boy Chad"! He's discretely patting himself on his back - again.
I noted that as well.
Thank you, Sheriff, for praising your deputies, and for not blaming the gun.
why didn't you keep him from shooting his mother???WTF?? Did you just stand there, watch him take aim and drop her before you reacted?
I can tell you've been in law enforcement. How long?
How long have you been in law enforcement?
Exactly! How in the World could a SWAT team allow him to come out in front of them with a gun and kill his mother In Front of SWAT?
@@janeferguson1246$shit happens fast.
@@shadyganley8877 So you're telling me that you must be in law enforcement to say whether or not it's a problem to allow a man who's already killed others to walk up behind his mother and shoot her in the head assassination style WHILE she's talking to the cops?? Is that what tyou're saying? Nope, but was in the military and that shit wouldn't have happened there. He would have been too full of holes to shoot anyone else.
Thank you officers.. 😢
Geez again, both parents live in the house.🤔 I heard a politician blame single parent homes for gun violence...smh
Or it's a black issue.
Or it's a democrat issue.
Shit can happen anywhere, at anytime, to anyone.😢
I have a nephew also with TBI from being mugged by a group. He becomes argumentative because the TBI can make him impatient or want something that's not good for him. His parents intervene to keep him on the right track. He can become sullen and pout, retreating to watching TV or going to his room, but he has never become violent. He is a well-built and strong adult but no one is scared of him. It is vitally important that someone connect this woman with a support group specific to TBI - please. Members of the group will be able to put her in touch with therapists and other support where she can learn what brain functions his TBI has impaired and how to deal with it. If one of her close neighbors with whom she is friends can go with her to meet with the group or a specially trained resource, perhaps they can detail the woman's situation and stress that because of her age it is important that a specialized residential place be found for her son. There is no need to go scaring her neighbors into moving away. Please try to help both of them instead of ganging up on the son.
Thank God for law enforcement officers helping to keep drugs guns and criminals off the streets pray for them 🙏
Judds crew is responsible enough to NOT let this animal get back into that house... period!
Wait a minute, they are talking to the mother and they allow him to shoot her in the back of the head. This whole story makes no sense.
10 calls to this residence
A Risk Protection Order was in place
Stop right there!!!!!
The suspect should have been baker acted PERIOD
This could’ve been avoided and it wasn’t.
HCSO didn’t keep the family safe.
Baker acting does not keep someone institutionalized indefinitely. And...adults cannot be kept against their will.
@@Gypsygirl9 it’s a start to getting the proper help. He was a danger to his family and himself. This could’ve been avoided!!!!
10 calls to this residence is excessive!!!!
@@jacinthmcintosh3059yup, and then they protect themselves before the victims. The watched this guy walk out of the house, up behind his mother, take aim, and shoot her. The did not prevent that. They did not administer first aid to her, like they did their teammate. They're congratulating themselves for a job well done, according to their extensive training, yet they did not prevent a single act. Always a day late and a dollar short.
@@Shaqlifeagreed!
@@Gypsygirl9you are correct about the Baker Act, but some of those calls the mother made were pleas for mental health assistance for her son. That OBVIOUSLY never happened. The Baker Act should be used to evaluate and lead to further care.
That he was ONLY able to unalive himself, his mother, his father, AND injure an officer...is really searching for a silver lining.
Love that the sheriffs information to the public was firm, competent and direct with details flowing without hesitation and able to be given without interference.
His shock at not knowing how criminals obtain illegal guns is concerning
Curious, did any of the deputies have rifles? It's an impossible situation, but I'm curious if they roll in with rifles instead of side arms on a call where there's a shooter.
I thought they typically have at least one assigned officer armed with a rifle but that’s a good question.
😢sincerest condolences to their family this is why is ok to cut people off if they don't respect you regardless of who it is. . such a tragic event.
This is what happens when parents raise a self entitled kid that is never told no
Thank you to those who risked their lives to intervene .
Our country is suffering from a mental health crisis. 😢 Sending love, light and positive healing energy to all the deputies who responded. My friend was on scene in Dallas 7/7/16 and he saw his friend get shot right next to him (RIP). The things our LEO's see on a daily basis are sometimes so horrible I fear for their mental health. Thank you for all you do for our safety. 💙
So sad. This is horrific
It is "deadly" until someone dies, then it is "fatal".
"A 19-year-old Tampa"
I was wondering what a 19 year old Tampa is.
@@corycripmaster Ha!
@@corycripmaster it's the city.
It officially became a city 19 years ago. Therefore it's the 19 year old Tampa
Parents are not doing their job. Kids doesn’t have attention,limits, discipline 😢
Or maybe it's the opposite. Too much harsh discipline
Don't judge you don't know their story
...agree. Sheriff Chronister can attest to that in regards to his own son.
@@CherylJohns-y9f proper discipline!
Parents of today do not parent!
He kept saying “We Don’t Know”.. but they knew because the Mother told the dispatcher exactly what was going on..then they Arrive on scene, set up a tactical position and STILL let him come up behind the Mother..while they were talking to her? 😩Call the police and still get killed 😩 they couldn’t hit the side of a barn.
Prayers 🙏
This is devastating.
Hard to process such hard situation.
I live right across Ehrlich, roughly 1000 feet away from the scene and I heard the gun shots and saw the police activity shortly afterwards. This is harrowing news to hear. My heart goes out to the family and neighbors.
Good, knowledgable officer who is explaining this incident extremely well.
Praying for the deputies and families!
How sad.
So since when does a sherrif judge a suspect and devulge information?
He should be stating, “ We disarmed the household so the misfit child could kill the parents”.
@billkraemer4710 Sheriff said they had seized his firearms so they need to find out how he was able to get a gun. Then later said again that they have his guns so they want to find out where/ how he was able to obtain the gun used.
Why wasn't the Mom immediately taken into safety? Doesn't quite make sense that enforcement officers would just let her stand there, totally exposed. Her death could have been avoided had they taken her out of harm's way IMMEDIATELY!!
Thus this PR narrative
We have the best Sheriff’s in the Suncoast Region! Wells, Nocco, Gualtieri, Chronister and GRADY who paved the way for ypu all to tell the public the hard facts that many in systems roles would never say ! As Sheriff Judd said recently “ he har some screws lose and my deputies had to tighten them up” Thank you! Happy Father’s Day to you all & thoughts with your CiRT/ SERT folks and staff at St. Jes.
Most of those counties would not have allowed the son to walk up and shoot the mom while they were talking to her. There's no way that I would put Chronister in the same category as Judd. I'm sorry for the deputy who was shot, but not stopping the son before he got to mom makes them culpable in her death. That's nothing to brag about.
@@AFloridaSonyou're sofa king weetoddid, you weren't there young lady😂
Sheriiff JUdd is the only one worth anything. The rest are just Grady wannabes
Some kids need special discipline
Some parents as well. Don't leave the parents blameless. It takes two to tango and in families with male children the mother is the default parent in the dance who stands by watching the tango between the father and son until she has no choice but to get involved and it's never a good ending
Perfect example of the social media raising kids.
Prayers for the deputy and his family and the Sheriff's office. Prayers for the remaining family of the shooter as well
He is a excellent press speaker.Thanks
So he killed his mother right in front of the police?????SMH
My God how horrible to witness !!! God bless everyone impacted by this heartbreaking situation. ❤
I'm very impressed by this Sheriff's communication skills.
Spokespeople are not always good speakers...oddly.
He seems to be a very good leader for his Deputies.
I hope the injured Deputy makes a full and speedy recovery.💙
God bless the police. Prayers for the deputies. ❤
Imagine if 72 hours mental health evaluation was still available?
What happens after 72 hours
@@Ailenna
President Ronald Reagan decided to cancel funding for state mental health evaluation in 1982.
Prior to 1982; a family member could have a relative committed to determine whether that person pose a risk of harming themselves or others.
The 72 hours hold was a safety net.
@@Silver74-jo6xy your dealing with a criminal first
@@Ailenna
Dear heart;
When the police officer said;
"...There had previously been ten 911 calls to that house. That two of those calls were related to mental issues ".
From the that alone, the young man was in need of intervention.
NO MENTAL HEALTH for anyone
Yall brag about how they help THEY DONT HELP.
Nah they just big pharma shilling
Only God upstairs knows who’s the bad guy
How does the sheriff even give suspect a chance for him to kill the mom within such tactical position as he said
My husband worked for this kids father!!! Glad the officers are ok!!!
Sheriff. Listen as he speaks without talking points (he's holding them, doesn't need them) because he knows the case, it's heartfelt. Bless you. Happy Father's Day, somehow, some way. My love friends, from DC.
GenZ the worst generation ever
Really? How so? Wut age range r they exactly? Thanks
Anyone can get a gun these days. If he had this much mental issues... why wasn't he in a hospital? 10 times they were called out.
Parents raised a son of Hell....
by the way. FL is the 3rd highest state for someone to get killed by a gun, just behind Texas and CA who are twice as big.
And Florida is a RED state.
Yup. Keep blaming the democrats for all the crime.
Sad.
That poor mom thought she was safe 😢
God bless you and your deputies as you go about your dangerous work! 🙏🏼
The scary thing is there are 1000's of young adults that are just as mentally ill as this man that walk among us and get no help.
I know he is the sherrif and he has to give a certain impression but claiming that inflicting harm or the use of viol. is never justified sounds absolutley ridiculous ane utterly immature especially comming from a man who may be armed. The truth is viol. saves lives every day and has prevented or ended some of the most horrible things throughout history. Im tired of being spoken to like a 13 year old by our government just because the lowest common denomenator of society needs to be treated like children.
Immature? I bet his grammar blows yours away, CHILD!
@@chhansen9813
No counter argument and only insults huh?
@@physetermacrocephalus2209 I WIN!
"Oh. We had great response time of 3 minutes" and what happened after that? "We watched a mother get executed in front of us, then we got shot at". Are you okkay? " yeah, 5 of us got hit and we returned fire". And after that? "We waited for the robot to go in and see if the father bled out while we were taking cover and tended to our wounded". "But we got here in 3 minutes". Thank god you saved everyone, I mean saved yourselves.
Thank God the deputy is going to be ok 🙏🏼
What an awful experience for all of them 😢
And he STILL had access to a gun...'Merica!
Yup.
Who knew people in a red state experience the same bs that blue states do?
Sending prayers for these families
Prayers for All involved 🙏
Did he still live there??
Yes. Which makes no sense.
No he's dead