I recall that Charles Stanley's wife wanted a divorce in the early 2000s, and Dr. Stanley wanted to stay with his wife. Several years later, she went ahead and divorced him anyway. Dr. Stanley went before his congregation at First Baptist Church of Atlanta, and he wanted to step down, but his congregation wanted him to remain as the Head Pastor. As a result, Dr. Stanley remained as the Pastor until his untimely death several months ago (2023). I do not question Dr. Stanley's integrity, and I would leave the judgement in this case to the Lord. I might add, Dr. Stanley never remarried, and he focused the rest of his life to his ministry.
Pastor Charles Stanley, unbeknownst to me was committed to the Biblical Teachings of the Apostles, that as Pastor/Shepherd of the flock you've got to be the husband of one wife, notwithstanding the fact that his wife decided to go ahead with the divorce. In marriage "the married couple in the sight of God become one flesh". It's a Great, Glorious and Godly mystery.🙏
Sometimes people use catch phrases inappropriately. I agree with your sentiment: We use the phrase “untimely death” when a young person dies, not someone who has lived to the ripe old age of 90.
I was married almost 24 years. My wife wanted a divorce, although she had no biblical basis for it. She was unhappy. I did everything in my power to save our marriage and family, even believing God would restore the marriage. It takes two to make a marriage work, and if they other person does not want to remain, you have no choice in the matter.
Unless a person, commits adultery, understand it let’s talk about murder. I was watching the news a lady is t Doing life right now for poisoning her husband so she can get his retirement money. And it took the authorities a hear to catch her. This is why divorce is necessary when the husband noticed something was not right with his drink he change his will. And text his best friend telling him I think she’s trying to kill me.
Not even for adultery read Romans, that was for a Jewish audience in judisim you are husband and wife at the engagement this is when you can end it the engagement period, God gave the command you cannot leave your husband and husband cannot leave his wife you can separate but no divorce or put away
Some pastors need to understand that they ask to be held to a higher standard once they hold that position as a pastor. They love it when things are going well for them, they call their congregation out at every service when "life" happens to them, but when their sins (pastors) are put in the spotlight, then all of sudden they're not allowed to be called out. Look inward and keep that same energy that you have for the sins of your congregation. No one is above accountability.
I have been married 36 years. A pastor cannot be divorced. The Bible clearly states a pastor can only have one wife. What really alarms me is that you only hear divorce in the church being discussed on social media. You never hear the issue of divorce discussed in the Christian churches. Pastors are afraid to discuss the issue. But, they know exactly what the Bible says.
Yes in Timothy it states one wife. However it does not state only one wife in the pastor's life. There is a better argument for the verse referring to someone who does not have multiple wives. Having multiple wives would require more of the man's attention to them and less to God and preaching the Word. Now YOU interpret it to mean only one wife in a man's life. That does not directly translate to being correct.
@@txag I don't understand what is confusing about that? The Bible clearly states a pastor or elder can only be married once. Unless your wife died, you are not allowed to get married again. The Bible is very clear about this.
@@timothythompson4036its not like its an end all be all bro, marriage symbolizez Christ and the Church and God dislikes divorce but if you go through it there is mercy, but if you’re getting divorced constantly then there is a problem
I think U are right it Money Attention power and More!!!! That they Stay as Pastors.. I will say U can't Force Someone to Stay married Yo U if the are Grown and Able Bodied
Husband of 1 wife… Pastor YPJ was married to 1 wife at a time so that doesn’t apply to him. Divorce and remarriage isn’t the unpardonable sin and it also doesn’t disqualify you from ever teaching and/or preaching the Gospel of Jesus… I think Pastor YPJ’s teachings and ministry are a blessing to the body of Christ. Love covers a multitude of sin! Where there is sin, much abounds Grace! I agree with Brother Corey… Once disqualified doesn’t = always disqualified… 🙏🙏🙏
You are correct that he is unrepentant. He rightly claims that the church is to be a place of healing and reconciliation, but that reconciliation and healing start with repentance. Those in positions of elders and overseers need to step aside for the time it takes for the work of the Holy Spirit to complete the regeneration and healing.
I’ve been married 3 times and people judge me all the time. It really sucks. First time I was not a Christian and he was a cheating alcoholic. Second one was an abuser. Yet, I get looked down at by believers all the time. Third one- I became born again and met a man of God. We decided to get married on the 4th date. I’m so thankful he didn’t judge me for my past. We’ve been married almost 24 years. HOWEVER, if I were a Pastor, it would not matter. I would not pastor no matter how unfair I thought it was.
Corporate christians are without a doubt the most judgemental, hypocritical, ignorant, and arrogant demographic there ever was. They are obsessed with using the name of Emmanuel (whom they call "Jesus") as their weapon of choice with which they justify their extra-biblical and even outright anti-biblical actions. They pick and choose verses to justify their worldliness (e.g., the so-called "prosperity gospel" and women being prohibited from being pastors). Their worst, most damning issues is how they put the teachings of Saul of Tarsus on the same level as Emmanuel, their actual savior. They will often times blasphemously act as if Saul's words supersede the COMMANDS of Emmanuel. The reasons for your divorces were acceptable by biblical standards which is all that matters. Adultery, abuse, and abandonment are all grounds for divorce according to various Bible verses in both the old and new testaments.
@@leviticusemmanuel4421 Well your comments are received with absolute respect and without prejudice, but according to the Bible women shouldn't occupy the office of a leader be it Pastor, Elder or Bishop that is Gods instruction if we accept the Holy Scriptures to be the inspired Word of God. Bless You.🙏🙌🏻
as long as your first husband still alive. doesn't matter if you are born again or not. you are living in adultery . the bible only justify separation.
Marriage is a ministry, and yes it is hard because people are not willing to die to themselves, you have: hard hearts, jealousy, envy. When you enter a marriage you become one flesh.
Divorced pastor here. I caught my ex wife in an emotional and possibly physical affair. She refused to take accountability and filed for divorce without a Biblical basis. I did not aid the process, but I did not stop it. The Lord will not disqualify you for the sins of others. I know that most divorces are initiated by women, and few of them are for Biblical reasons. Women were barely granted the right to divorce according to Biblical law because their emotions have to potential to wreak havoc on godly men. However, their rebellion will not stop the work of the Lord.
Not a pastor however going through the similar situation. Wife was caught in an emotional and possibly physical affair. Talked to the guy all the up until she moved out. She refused accountability and could not see a different prospective than her own and the people who enabled her. It didn't start like this otherwise I wouldn't have married her. Marriage is two people coming together as one. However, when one is not willing to fight, one is not humble to see or appreciate the one she married, one is not grateful for what God brought to her (she made a FB post about wanting a husband a year exactly before we met); what can be done? Fighting for something that may be a losing battle or praising and honoring the Lord where the victory is already his. Time is the most value asset we have. It should be wasted.
I feel for you so much. I have been saved for nearly 19 years. God answered the prayer I have been praying the whole time which is for my husbands salvation. It completely came out of nowhere. Just happened 3 weeks ago right in front of my face. God had him confess his infidelity to me that happened 11 years ago. I have been researching this like mad lately because I am so broken. You did exactly what you are supposed to do. I even now, having a biblical basis I believe. However I see Christ working in his heart and tho you are right, emotions are definitely wreaking havoc, this is what I have been praying for, for half my life. Ive been obeying the Lord as best I can and you have inspired me to keep fighting my flesh. I am completely broken but I want to witness the man God is making him to be.
@@kcizzlewilson1260 Im gonna pray for you and your wife. I was caught up in a similar way early in my marriage and there was a point I woke up and saw the lie. I know im putting my sin on display here but it doesnt matter what people say. I repented. God intervened. Tho we dont know what Gods plan is, there is hope. No matter the outcome. The snake is still at it since the garden. Praising the Lord is always the way to go. We never know what the tide will bring in. What Gods plan is but he is a God of hope. I didnt expect to comment this deep on this thread. I have made a ton of mistakes as a wife along the way BUT God is faithful. So faithful. He saved my husband after years of praying. God has you in his hands.
Thank you for this interesting video + your explanations on that topic which I can fully follow. Please, allow me to express a few thoughts: 1. When the divorce of a pastor happens due to his immorality, he has nothing to do in the pulpit anymore as he will never be able to prove to his community that he is free of any immoral thoughts and thus pure. 2. If he had not been immoral, the question is whether he tends to make wrong choices concerning a wife hence might make wrong decisions when leading a community. 3. If other reasons led to a divorce, point 2 applies as well. If a church community still wanted him to be a pastor (after repentance etc.), he should be scrutinized beforehand. This could be done by asking him to preach on the topic where he had failed in his marriage. The congregation then would see how (intensely and genuinely) he preaches on this topic and could see whether a real healing had taken place.
God gives the necessary measure of Grace to continue forward in the ministry… which is why ministers can be going through a situation and still be able to function in their assignment as a minister of God. It’s not because Pastor YPJ is that strong… It’s because God’s strength is perfect in his life! 😇😇😇
Some of us need a crash course again on what the blood of Jesus can do. Does God hate divorce of course he does just like every other sin! But if a person repents and goes through the proper time of being broken and restored, who are we to put a limit on how the blood of Jesus can justify a person and cast their sin fron them as far from them as the East is from the west? We must uphold the qualifications of being a leader im the church. That is without question. If the call and anointing and gift is on a person, it's not for us to determine. Should leaders be sat down for any sin? Of course! But if the blood of Jesus is not powerful enough to restore a person back after they repent and gone through proper restoration? Then Jesus dying was in vain...... PERIOD!
Absolutely incorrect. A divorce can restore order to the house. Divorce means that the marriage is completely dissolved. As long as the divorce took place in accordance with scripture, there is no verse that disqualifies them as a pastor.
@@phantom96aggie00 you’re the one who absolutely false. There are permissible reasons for divorce. Who’s to say the pastor is the one who tore the home apart? Do you know what they say about assumptions?
Let us be clear we are talking about christian couples here. This pastor's explanation for his divorce is useless cause he should be guided by God's statutes not the world's standard....
God hates divorce just like he hates other sins. Does his blood cleans us from that sin and the guilt of it of course! If an individual is in unrepented sin, of course they're not qualified. But if they received forgiveness and repented of their sin and went through brokenness and restoration, who is any of us to say that they're not qualified?
@@drdfilm the Bible sets the standard. A man of 1 wife, children must be upstanding citizens and he must be blameless. I don’t see how others can find wiggle room. It’s very straight forward.
@@newaveride3396 so if any of those standards have been violated and not kept 100% he is forever disqualified? Of course those standards hold true but there are standards in other areas as believers that we walk in that we failed in. If any man fails those qualifications he's definitely not fit to serve at the time. But who are we to say that if they've gone through the proper repentance confession and restoration, that they are no longer fit to serve im ministry. Saying no to that question I believe is above our pay grade.
@@drdfilm this is why each person should read their Bible so no man can deceive them about what is says. I am speaking on my own experience in the church. So take this with a grain of salt. Our people have to focus on having discipline. We are very far gone when it comes to marriage and family. Our standards for our families and our leaders are too low.
@@newaveride3396 I agree with you 100%! But the Bible speaks of standards qualifications disciplines forgiveness repentance restoration all of those things. As believers we need to preach and live by the holy standards that is set now only for marriage and family but every aspect of our lives. I'm not preaching a hyper-grace message. But as the church I believe we failed in the area of teaching about the importance of upholding qualifications in holiness, administering discipline, and proper restoration, and the proper balance that the Bible instructs us to.
No Christian can initiate divorce proceedings against there Covenant spouse. The non believer can, but the Christian must stand for the Covenant of marriage and remain single until the spouse dies. However according to the Word of God, He is able to change the stony heart and restore the marriage. All Glory to Almighty God in Christ Jesus' name through the Power of His Holy Spirit Amen
That's not true you can marry again. That was but in the Bible by white people. NO 1 in 1700 had married linseence they just say ok me and you...1800 you just put it on paper. We married
@@TangeliaSnowExactly! Stuff like this makes men believe we have to tolerate the intolerable when in fact you look in Deuteronomy 24 it gives details about what you can do.
I played drums on a worship team and I came to the pastor to have him help me with the counseling of saving my marriage. After 3 counselors (2 pastors) all telling me -we can't help your situation, I filed for divorce. I immediately got chastised and kicked out of the church, but my wife was allowed to continue to attend. 1 year later that same pastor was caught with an underage girl from the youth group. Then he got kicked out. He got his karma. But I always wondered where the "Forgiveness" was.......
You were seeking advice from men instead of asking God to intervene and rescue your marriage. Remember, divorcing is also not an option because, as Christians, you will not go get another wife, no husband, until death takes one out. After divorcing, one can't engage again in sex with others.
Excellent dialogue! So true, I've learned so much. I've been taught that pastor, five fold ministry, is chosen by God, you need God's heart, to do it, you need be called! Clearly this guy has issues. He went, before he was sent.
Look. Jesus said if any person who divorces their spouse and marries another while their spouse is still alive commits adultery. The Apostles gave the requirements of an elder and bishop. It is that they be the HUSBAND of one wife. Jesus gave 2 TWO reasons for divorce: 1 fornication or sexual immorality 2 death (natural or spiritual) . (I) don't see where God says you can't pastor or minister if you are divorced. It is rather what the Pastor does after he is divorced.
It' says that an elder or a deacon should be a man married to one woman not ONE AT A TIME. And you must be above reproach. So no you cannot be divorced and be a pastor.
The Lord hates divorce, whether you're a pastor or not. God will not change his word to suit ours. If your other half divorces you, there's no room for remarriage.
Ofcourse it's okay. It can allow to to focus on Gods things fully, however having the level of sexual selfcontrol that is required when single is hard to reach but than again nothing is impossible with God
@@vurra it’s not hard, I been celibate for 11 years now. y’all make it hard for yourself, sex is not that serious or good. My body is GOD’s temple and it’s going to stay that way til I die. Wish I would have learned that at a young age. If you’re faithful to GOD, it won’t be a problem. Worship, praying, reading your Bible, working will take up most of your day so trust you won’t even think about anything else.
@keneshasb Faxx and agreed!! I feel bad for those who believe abstaining from sex is hard or impossible. If your love for God is real, God is FAITHFUL, and the will becomes strong. 🦾 1 Corinthians 10:13 I've been celibate for 10.5 years and pray often for my man of God- I know he's coming soon. However, in the meantime, my love is the LORD. And I am intentional about OUR relationship and raising my son to be a young man who pursues God first in all things. God bless your journey, sister in Christ!! 💜🙏🏽👏🏽
I’m noticing that many divorced men simply state that the reason was “irreconcilable differences” & the courts use the same term as a broad stroke in most situations. Most often, the reason is simply INFIDELITY. I’m grateful that YHWH is omnipresent and sees ALL!!! You can fool anyone except TMH!!!! HALLELUJAH LORD!!!!
Paul knew this was typical of women to leave so he said👇👇👇 Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife. I Corinthians 7:10-11 NKJV
You need a plurality of elders looking at the particulars of the individual to make The determination as to whether or not that person can hold the office a pastor.
What office would you say you hold? RUclips Pastor? RUclips deacon? Everyone is always criticizing but not bold enough to Shepard people or start a church.
Is this considered a commandments and consequences from the God? 1 Corinthians 7:10 But for those who are married, I have a command that comes not from me, but from the Lord. A wife must not leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave him, (let her remain single) or else be reconciled to him. And (the husband must not leave his wife.) Jesus continued:] "You have heard the law that says, 'A man can divorce his wife by merely giving her a written notice of divorce.' But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And (anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.)" - Matthew 5:31-32 Later, when [Jesus] was alone with his disciples in the house, they brought up the subject [of divorce] again. He told them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery." - Mark 10:10-12 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 : 9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. 9 I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people-- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
This is a tricky subject for some. I would say that it depends on the circumstances surrounding the divorce. If the divorce happened because he committed adultery, then that is lifetime disqualification from ministry imo.
Depends on why. If he was caught in the hotel room with someone other than his wife and absolutely not but if his wife had cheated on him then yes it's not too complicated really
If you become saved its better to stay with lost people in hopes they get saved, but if they want to go, let them. If she is not dead, aren't you suppose stay single ?
Exactly people need to read the word for themselves. Only Jesus can teach you his word because he’s God in the flesh. Who can teach the word of God better than the author himself? No one
Obviously forgiveness & attempting reconciliation in hopes of restoring the marriage should always be the 1st option since it’s in accord with the will of God at the institution of marriage (Gen. 2:22-25). However, if sexual immorality/infidelity occurs or abandonment, or abuse, I wonder how many of those dogmatic about no divorce & remarriage would still be such if it happened to them or a family member.
Question for you Corey. Once a pastor is sat down for his personal issues, what is used in determining how long? My concern in this is those in charge of that determination are human, and the tendency is to mark someone with the Scarlet letter forever. How can the pastor and church reconcile to move forward?
I would say God never gives advice - he gives commands… So who are we to pick and choose which commands to follow, given its the LORD giving these commands?
You as a Pastor can continue to preach... ONLY IF the wife committed adultery or abandoned the marriage. That's it. If you're in your second marriage it's permissible if the first wife passed away, the previous reason, and prior towards entering ministry.
The person in a marriage that first mentions divorce, destroys the marriage because they are thinking/planning it. Jesus said it "everything comes from the heart".
Character Flaw 🤔 That’s a huge assumption my Brother. I divorced my first husband, he was cheating and gave me an STD I ended up in the Hospital and he destroyed my chances of having children…, Staying in a marriage that is not a marriage does no One any good.!!! We need peace, and if you can’t have that as a Christian, oh well I’m out!!!! Some these messes called marriages need to be put ASUNDER because God hasn’t joined a lot of these people together 😂😂😂
I truly understand your reasoning. But the Bible says “if he marries another he commits adultery if you marry a divorced person you commit adultery”. I’m paraphrasing, but how can you say they can continue to teach and preach after the fact. If there is no biblical grounds for divorce it’s hard to say that a pastor can come back from that. Biblically I don’t see it.
Eldership is a team annointing both husband, if married, wife. That is why Paul said it is better to be single, then you can give all your attention to Yahuah and serve the flock 100% instead of being distracted.
I knew a wonderful pastor whose wife died. Years later he married a divorced woman. He immediately resigned as pastor of a church he had founded and pastured for 20 years. He did continue to preach, but he never pastured again. There is a significant difference between a pastor and a preacher. You rarely find a Man of God who can master the talents of a good pastor and a good preacher. They are usually one or the other.
The doctors or lawyers are only professions. The role of a pastor is a calling by God. That means you are going to deal with a spiritual being even after you die. Pastors better rethink their calling and accountability. Stay sincere and obedient to Jesus Christ.
This man is not qualified to be a pastor, and neither is any other man who has gotten an unbiblical divorce. Unless there was sexual immorality or the wife died, he's not even divorced. In God's eyes, he's still married. It doesn't matter if his marriage was years ago or before he got saved, because marriage is permanent in the Christian faith. If he has gotten another woman, then he's a cheater. If his wife has gotten another dude, then she's a cheater. It's comical that we think The Lord respects our laws. We come up with stuff like "irreconcilable differences," and think God should approve our paperwork. Jesus is clear as Windex about marriage and divorce. He deals with this in Matthew 5. He repeats the same standard in Matthew 19. If a man is deliberately violating Jesus' teachings, then he his bringing reproach to himself and should not be a pastor. For those who have gotten a divorce and call this "being judgmental," please remember what 2 Timothy 3:16 says "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Let's not confuse correction with condemnation. If Christians keep simping on this topic and being lenient about divorce, then we'll continue to destroy our families, which is exactly what Satan wants.
There are way too many factors in a marriage to hold only ONE person accountable. Society judges divorce because it’s an easy target or criticism because people know divorce hurts and is unlikely done in haste. It’s a way for people to extract narcissistic supply when they criticize or judge a divorced individual.
I like this video. I'm divorced. Not by choice. Husband chose his sin nature with women led him away. He initiated the divorce, and although I prayed every day, God let my ex husband finish it. With that in mind, I've become so sensitive to this. The man was making excuses. Irreconcilable Differences is an unBiblical reason to divorce. That term means that two people can't see eye to eye, which means REFUSES to see eye to eye. And as a Believer we lay down our lives for another. If he readily divorced her and kept focusing on the church members, he did not lay down his life for his wife ...the one he committed to first on this earth. And he did need to sit....but pride keeps men pushing forward.
Bible say 1timothy 3 1:5. If he separate from his wife. Must remain neutral. Still be pastor . But can't date or remarry. 1corinthians 7 10 11 12. That's it
Marriage laws are often misunderstood or simply ignored. The bond of marriage may be broken in some circumstances. For instance, if the unbelieving depart, let them depart, a brother or sister is not bondage in such cases. God has called us to peace, and the laws of marriage pertain to every one of us, pastors notwithstanding.
A man can re-marry. Matthew 5:32 states that a man commits adultery if he marries a woman who is divorced. That what the Scriptures state. What applies to the man doesn’t necessarily apply to the woman.
I believe what the Spirit says the qualifications are as outlined in 1 Timothy 3: 1-13. At the same time, I also believe what the Spirit says in 1 John 1:9, Psalm 103: 8-13, Psalm 51, and especially 2 Corinthians 7: 9-10.
As a former divorce attorney- the Lord convicted me right up out of that life- a lawyer is NOT a pastor. The two don’t even fit together. As I grow closer to God and read His Word for myself, my choice is to not sit under a divorced pastor. The ones I know have been prideful and loosey goosey with talking about divorce, remarriage, or just plain sin in general. I personally don’t trust them to rightly divide the Word if it makes them look bad.
I don't think there's anything wrong with a divorced person being a pastor, but at the same time, I definitely believe in thoroughly investigating the circumstances surrounding the divorce before considering a divorced person to be a pastor of a church. I don't think it's a sin to get divorced in a domestic violence situation, a child abuse situation, an adultery situation, or a situation of a husband and wife not being compatible. In order for a marriage to work out, the husband and wife have to be compatible. Sometimes people make the mistake of marrying someone they're not compatible with. I do think it's a sin to divorce your spouse due to your spouse getting less attractive, due to your spouse gaining weight, due to your spouse losing their job, due to your spouse getting sick, etc because God wants people to take the marriage vow of "for better or worse" seriously. "For better or worse" means being there in situations such as a spouse losing their job, a spouse getting sick, a spouse getting paralyzed, etc. "For better or worse" doesn't mean tolerant being abused, tolerate being cheated on, etc.
The letters to Timothy are apostolic instructions to oversee home churches and appointing elders as pastors and teachers, also deacons. The qualification for both offices for men and women are listed in this letter, being divorce is not one. Paul made a statement, if you do not know what and how to behave copy me= 1Cor4:16.
I think the more pressing point for me would be if you are a person living in sin but you are in a position of leadership then I am not going to take your leadership seriously... Because I'm going to say that YOU are not taking YOUR leadership 🤔🤔🤔
Actually he can. If you’re referring to Matthew 5:32, that states that the man that puts his wife away causes HER to commit adultery and that HE commits adultery if he marries her that is divorced. That what the Bible says.
My brother managing and controlling is two different things. If someone does not want to stay with you how is he responsible if she wants to leave or vice versa you can’t make someone do something they don’t want to do. And I’m not speaking as someone who’s been divorced because I haven’t been divorced, but there is nowhere in scripture that says a divorced person can’t pastor.
Divorce is not a sin. Divorce and remarriage is a sin. It is adultery. If the wife initiate the divorce and he remains unmarried and lives and teaches a godly life then the pastor is still qualified to remain a pastor. Now if he initiates the divorce then he failed and is disqualified. And if the pastor divorces his wife… and remarried to another… not only is that man disqualified to be a pastor or leader in a church but also living in an adultery and disqualified from the kingdom of God ultimately. Jesus is King. Peace.
Answer to your question. NO.. that pastor must sit down. And if he got more than one marriage still not qualified. Get back to the book. These pastors are just full of it..
The fact that he is comparing his role as a pastor to an attorney says a lot. I hope he’s not saying they live by the same morals but I believe that’s exactly what he’s saying. That he shouldn’t be held to any standards above what any other profession would be
You’re saying that if man thinks you’ve repented enough and are qualified currently then you are free to minister. No. What does God say? He says that He hates divorce, period, not “are you married now and in control of your home” now. Go and listen to Voddie Baucham and the doctrine of permanence, that’s the correct answer here. I was married 27 years and am divorced therefore I can never remarry as long as my ex husband is alive.
The pastor’s wife was apparently “out in the streets.” He’s being very gracious by not specifically saying what happened. Unfortunately, that man really didn’t have a choice. Very few men, pastor or otherwise, would have stayed in that marriage.
He said it irreconcilable difference not adultery, which are not grounds either because you said "until death do us part" which includes adultery. God said he hates divorce has he changed his opinion? If you do anything that God hates there are consequences.
women stay all the time when men have their season or even life time of marriage for infidelity. They make the marriage work. Marriage is hard work. Because now they have to remain single until their other spouse dies
@@Brandiisbeloved Women file over 70% of divorces in the US, 90% when they’re college educated. Statistics show that differences in infidelity between husbands and wives is single digits and women in their 20s cheat more statistically. In general, it’s actually MEN who are not seeking to end marriages.
God says one wife one set of kids be holy for l am holy it's starts in your house how can you take care God house but you can't take care your own it is the word of God even if you remarried you commit adultery if your wife or husband still live
People that uses ministry as an excuse to neglect their responsibilities in the home are basically accusing God of causing their marriage to collapse and that is not ok. As a believing husband, there is nothing more scary to me than to be ‘called’ to become a pastor. In my current walk in the faith, I think that If God chooses to call me to fill this office, my response would be “nahh, I ain’t that guy”. It’s such a scary thing and people take it with levity.
In this modern churches anything goes. Because that's why they have thrown out the apostles doctrine. But the church is built upon the apostles and prophets Jesus Christ the head corner stone. Divorce is just the tip of their lustful desire. To join with Satan to fight against Christ. You tell christians the truth these days and boy you are in for a fight. Peter the apostle puts bluntly. He said keep away from anyone who does not believe in the doctrine of Christ.
Charles Stanley told his church he would leave if he got a divorce. Well he got a divorce and went back on his word and stayed. Which cause a large percentage of his congregation to leave. He even said that this caused isssues with him and his son.
I recall that Charles Stanley's wife wanted a divorce in the early 2000s, and Dr. Stanley wanted to stay with his wife. Several years later, she went ahead and divorced him anyway. Dr. Stanley went before his congregation at First Baptist Church of Atlanta, and he wanted to step down, but his congregation wanted him to remain as the Head Pastor. As a result, Dr. Stanley remained as the Pastor until his untimely death several months ago (2023). I do not question Dr. Stanley's integrity, and I would leave the judgement in this case to the Lord. I might add, Dr. Stanley never remarried, and he focused the rest of his life to his ministry.
I would question why a woman would want a divorce from a godly man.
Pastor Charles Stanley, unbeknownst to me was committed to the Biblical Teachings of the Apostles, that as Pastor/Shepherd of the flock you've got to be the husband of one wife, notwithstanding the fact that his wife decided to go ahead with the divorce. In marriage "the married couple in the sight of God become one flesh". It's a Great, Glorious and Godly mystery.🙏
The Man was 90 yrs and you said he died untimely...
Sometimes people use catch phrases inappropriately. I agree with your sentiment: We use the phrase “untimely death” when a young person dies, not someone who has lived to the ripe old age of 90.
@@quincysthillaireCharles Stanley spent more time on Christ’s bride and not his own.
I was married almost 24 years. My wife wanted a divorce, although she had no biblical basis for it. She was unhappy. I did everything in my power to save our marriage and family, even believing God would restore the marriage. It takes two to make a marriage work, and if they other person does not want to remain, you have no choice in the matter.
Unless a person, commits adultery, understand it let’s talk about murder. I was watching the news a lady is t
Doing life right now for poisoning her husband so she can get his retirement money. And it took the authorities a hear to catch her. This is why divorce is necessary when the husband noticed something was not right with his drink he change his will. And text his best friend telling him I think she’s trying to kill me.
Not even for adultery read Romans, that was for a Jewish audience in judisim you are husband and wife at the engagement this is when you can end it the engagement period, God gave the command you cannot leave your husband and husband cannot leave his wife you can separate but no divorce or put away
It sounds like you did everything you could to save your marriage. If your wife leaves, let her go. Just remain single, and untroubled.
Some pastors need to understand that they ask to be held to a higher standard once they hold that position as a pastor. They love it when things are going well for them, they call their congregation out at every service when "life" happens to them, but when their sins (pastors) are put in the spotlight, then all of sudden they're not allowed to be called out. Look inward and keep that same energy that you have for the sins of your congregation. No one is above accountability.
I have been married 36 years. A pastor cannot be divorced. The Bible clearly states a pastor can only have one wife. What really alarms me is that you only hear divorce in the church being discussed on social media. You never hear the issue of divorce discussed in the Christian churches. Pastors are afraid to discuss the issue. But, they know exactly what the Bible says.
Yes in Timothy it states one wife. However it does not state only one wife in the pastor's life. There is a better argument for the verse referring to someone who does not have multiple wives. Having multiple wives would require more of the man's attention to them and less to God and preaching the Word. Now YOU interpret it to mean only one wife in a man's life. That does not directly translate to being correct.
@@txag I don't understand what is confusing about that? The Bible clearly states a pastor or elder can only be married once. Unless your wife died, you are not allowed to get married again. The Bible is very clear about this.
@@timothythompson4036 Nope. But you go ahead and find the verse to try and prove your point.
@@timothythompson4036its not like its an end all be all bro, marriage symbolizez Christ and the Church and God dislikes divorce but if you go through it there is mercy, but if you’re getting divorced constantly then there is a problem
Yep Charles Stanley. Great man of God
Yes, he didn't remarry but remained single like scripture says.
@darthjedi99 so he is celibate? Your saying.
@@darthjedi99exactly!
@@blaq7892he is dead
@@OrondeB was the preacher celibate? Its impossible to know ,wouldn't you say?
this men are not humble enough to leave their position as pastors that’s why. They don’t want to let go either because of money , or the attention.
It’s all a show for them. It’s about them, them , then. Self self self.
@completoencristo you’re absolutely right
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I think U are right it Money Attention power and More!!!! That they Stay as Pastors.. I will say U can't Force Someone to Stay married Yo U if the are Grown and Able Bodied
These new pastors are like roosters in the hen yard. The truth is nowhere in them.
He just sounds like a man trying to justify his sin. I thought that was what Christ does for us. If we love Him, all WE need to do is obey Him.
many marriages end because of pride and selfishness by one of the parties and sometimes both.
Competition, one trying to make oneself looks better. Domination and control lack respect for each other, and both of them now become bosses.
It takes only one person to break a relationship. Both CANNOT.
If a marieage fails,it's because one or both partners don't have Agape' love in their hearts.
Husband of 1 wife… Pastor YPJ was married to 1 wife at a time so that doesn’t apply to him.
Divorce and remarriage isn’t the unpardonable sin and it also doesn’t disqualify you from ever teaching and/or preaching the Gospel of Jesus…
I think Pastor YPJ’s teachings and ministry are a blessing to the body of Christ.
Love covers a multitude of sin! Where there is sin, much abounds Grace!
I agree with Brother Corey… Once disqualified doesn’t = always disqualified…
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You are correct that he is unrepentant. He rightly claims that the church is to be a place of healing and reconciliation, but that reconciliation and healing start with repentance. Those in positions of elders and overseers need to step aside for the time it takes for the work of the Holy Spirit to complete the regeneration and healing.
You go for legal advice to a lawyer & for salvation advice to a pastor. The 2 can’t be compared. 😩
You see… this is not judging, it is by the AUTHORITY of the word…. Without order and authority/ any institution turns CHAOTIC.
Say that again! 💯
I’ve been married 3 times and people judge me all the time. It really sucks. First time I was not a Christian and he was a cheating alcoholic. Second one was an abuser. Yet, I get looked down at by believers all the time.
Third one- I became born again and met a man of God. We decided to get married on the 4th date. I’m so thankful he didn’t judge me for my past. We’ve been married almost 24 years.
HOWEVER, if I were a Pastor, it would not matter. I would not pastor no matter how unfair I thought it was.
Corporate christians are without a doubt the most judgemental, hypocritical, ignorant, and arrogant demographic there ever was. They are obsessed with using the name of Emmanuel (whom they call "Jesus") as their weapon of choice with which they justify their extra-biblical and even outright anti-biblical actions. They pick and choose verses to justify their worldliness (e.g., the so-called "prosperity gospel" and women being prohibited from being pastors). Their worst, most damning issues is how they put the teachings of Saul of Tarsus on the same level as Emmanuel, their actual savior. They will often times blasphemously act as if Saul's words supersede the COMMANDS of Emmanuel.
The reasons for your divorces were acceptable by biblical standards which is all that matters. Adultery, abuse, and abandonment are all grounds for divorce according to various Bible verses in both the old and new testaments.
Well, you should use Romans 7:2-3 as a standard for your judgement and living as a born again.
@@leviticusemmanuel4421 Well your comments are received with absolute respect and without prejudice, but according to the Bible women shouldn't occupy the office of a leader be it Pastor, Elder or Bishop that is Gods instruction if we accept the Holy Scriptures to be the inspired Word of God. Bless You.🙏🙌🏻
as long as your first husband still alive. doesn't matter if you are born again or not. you are living in adultery . the bible only justify separation.
@@nevillejanari7915 In which verse did Emmanuel make such a command?
Nobody knows what marriage is until you get married. That’s obvious, well at least to me.
Marriage is a ministry, and yes it is hard because people are not willing to die to themselves, you have: hard hearts, jealousy, envy. When you enter a marriage you become one flesh.
Divorced pastor here. I caught my ex wife in an emotional and possibly physical affair. She refused to take accountability and filed for divorce without a Biblical basis. I did not aid the process, but I did not stop it.
The Lord will not disqualify you for the sins of others. I know that most divorces are initiated by women, and few of them are for Biblical reasons. Women were barely granted the right to divorce according to Biblical law because their emotions have to potential to wreak havoc on godly men. However, their rebellion will not stop the work of the Lord.
Not a pastor however going through the similar situation. Wife was caught in an emotional and possibly physical affair. Talked to the guy all the up until she moved out. She refused accountability and could not see a different prospective than her own and the people who enabled her. It didn't start like this otherwise I wouldn't have married her. Marriage is two people coming together as one. However, when one is not willing to fight, one is not humble to see or appreciate the one she married, one is not grateful for what God brought to her (she made a FB post about wanting a husband a year exactly before we met); what can be done? Fighting for something that may be a losing battle or praising and honoring the Lord where the victory is already his. Time is the most value asset we have. It should be wasted.
I feel for you so much. I have been saved for nearly 19 years. God answered the prayer I have been praying the whole time which is for my husbands salvation. It completely came out of nowhere. Just happened 3 weeks ago right in front of my face. God had him confess his infidelity to me that happened 11 years ago. I have been researching this like mad lately because I am so broken. You did exactly what you are supposed to do. I even now, having a biblical basis I believe. However I see Christ working in his heart and tho you are right, emotions are definitely wreaking havoc, this is what I have been praying for, for half my life. Ive been obeying the Lord as best I can and you have inspired me to keep fighting my flesh. I am completely broken but I want to witness the man God is making him to be.
@@kcizzlewilson1260 Im gonna pray for you and your wife. I was caught up in a similar way early in my marriage and there was a point I woke up and saw the lie. I know im putting my sin on display here but it doesnt matter what people say. I repented. God intervened. Tho we dont know what Gods plan is, there is hope. No matter the outcome. The snake is still at it since the garden. Praising the Lord is always the way to go. We never know what the tide will bring in. What Gods plan is but he is a God of hope. I didnt expect to comment this deep on this thread. I have made a ton of mistakes as a wife along the way BUT God is faithful. So faithful. He saved my husband after years of praying. God has you in his hands.
Nothing but excuses. If your ex-wife was that "ungodly" that doesn't say too much about YOU.
@@hervoice3501 your comment tells me everything I need to know about you.
The breakdown & build up. Regarding Marriage & Divorce (according to the WORD) in this video. Is so On-point! 🎯
Thank you for this interesting video + your explanations on that topic which I can fully follow.
Please, allow me to express a few thoughts: 1. When the divorce of a pastor happens due to his immorality, he has nothing to do in the pulpit anymore as he will never be able to prove to his community that he is free of any immoral thoughts and thus pure. 2. If he had not been immoral, the question is whether he tends to make wrong choices concerning a wife hence might make wrong decisions when leading a community. 3. If other reasons led to a divorce, point 2 applies as well.
If a church community still wanted him to be a pastor (after repentance etc.), he should be scrutinized beforehand. This could be done by asking him to preach on the topic where he had failed in his marriage. The congregation then would see how (intensely and genuinely) he preaches on this topic and could see whether a real healing had taken place.
Why doesn’t Isaiah Saldivar say anything to Greg locked ? he claims to be so “connected” to the spiritual things of God .
God gives the necessary measure of Grace to continue forward in the ministry… which is why ministers can be going through a situation and still be able to function in their assignment as a minister of God.
It’s not because Pastor YPJ is that strong… It’s because God’s strength is perfect in his life!
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He can't remarry or date. 1corinthians 7 10:12 . Must remain unmarried. Only death u free.
Romans 7 1:3
Some of us need a crash course again on what the blood of Jesus can do.
Does God hate divorce of course he does just like every other sin! But if a person repents and goes through the proper time of being broken and restored, who are we to put a limit on how the blood of Jesus can justify a person and cast their sin fron them as far from them as the East is from the west?
We must uphold the qualifications of being a leader im the church. That is without question. If the call and anointing and gift is on a person, it's not for us to determine. Should leaders be sat down for any sin? Of course!
But if the blood of Jesus is not powerful enough to restore a person back after they repent and gone through proper restoration? Then Jesus dying was in vain...... PERIOD!
Very well said .. people have gone to jail and done some horrible things and are still able to pastor.
I agree, people can be something else, but if walls could talk.
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Pastor cannot preach if their own household is out of order. A divorce is the ultimate demonstration that your house is out of order.
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That’s a great point
Absolutely incorrect. A divorce can restore order to the house. Divorce means that the marriage is completely dissolved. As long as the divorce took place in accordance with scripture, there is no verse that disqualifies them as a pastor.
@@rapmeister1000 -- absolutely false. Tearing a house apart never restores order.
@@phantom96aggie00 you’re the one who absolutely false. There are permissible reasons for divorce. Who’s to say the pastor is the one who tore the home apart? Do you know what they say about assumptions?
The bible is clear you cannot remarry if your spouse is still living after there is a divorce.....
Let us be clear we are talking about christian couples here. This pastor's explanation for his divorce is useless cause he should be guided by God's statutes not the world's standard....
The answer is NO. You cannot be a pastor. If you cannot handle your home, you cannot handle the church.
God hates divorce just like he hates other sins. Does his blood cleans us from that sin and the guilt of it of course! If an individual is in unrepented sin, of course they're not qualified.
But if they received forgiveness and repented of their sin and went through brokenness and restoration, who is any of us to say that they're not qualified?
@@drdfilm the Bible sets the standard. A man of 1 wife, children must be upstanding citizens and he must be blameless. I don’t see how others can find wiggle room. It’s very straight forward.
@@newaveride3396 so if any of those standards have been violated and not kept 100% he is forever disqualified? Of course those standards hold true but there are standards in other areas as believers that we walk in that we failed in.
If any man fails those qualifications he's definitely not fit to serve at the time. But who are we to say that if they've gone through the proper repentance confession and restoration, that they are no longer fit to serve im ministry. Saying no to that question I believe is above our pay grade.
@@drdfilm this is why each person should read their Bible so no man can deceive them about what is says. I am speaking on my own experience in the church. So take this with a grain of salt. Our people have to focus on having discipline. We are very far gone when it comes to marriage and family. Our standards for our families and our leaders are too low.
@@newaveride3396 I agree with you 100%! But the Bible speaks of standards qualifications disciplines forgiveness repentance restoration all of those things.
As believers we need to preach and live by the holy standards that is set now only for marriage and family but every aspect of our lives.
I'm not preaching a hyper-grace message. But as the church I believe we failed in the area of teaching about the importance of upholding qualifications in holiness, administering discipline, and proper restoration, and the proper balance that the Bible instructs us to.
No Christian can initiate divorce proceedings against there Covenant spouse.
The non believer can, but the Christian must stand for the Covenant of marriage and remain single until the spouse dies.
However according to the Word of God, He is able to change the stony heart and restore the marriage.
All Glory to Almighty God in Christ Jesus' name through the Power of His Holy Spirit Amen
In case of adultery, yes he can.
That's not true you can marry again. That was but in the Bible by white people. NO 1 in 1700 had married linseence they just say ok me and you...1800 you just put it on paper. We married
@@TangeliaSnowExactly! Stuff like this makes men believe we have to tolerate the intolerable when in fact you look in Deuteronomy 24 it gives details about what you can do.
I played drums on a worship team and I came to the pastor to have him help me with the counseling of saving my marriage. After 3 counselors (2 pastors) all telling me -we can't help your situation, I filed for divorce. I immediately got chastised and kicked out of the church, but my wife was allowed to continue to attend. 1 year later that same pastor was caught with an underage girl from the youth group. Then he got kicked out. He got his karma. But I always wondered where the "Forgiveness" was.......
Wow. 😮🙏🏽
You were seeking advice from men instead of asking God to intervene and rescue your marriage. Remember, divorcing is also not an option because, as Christians, you will not go get another wife, no husband, until death takes one out. After divorcing, one can't engage again in sex with others.
Karma is something occultists believe.
@@Romans6_23Amen
… “he got his Karma” 🤔 ..📖 🔍 👀
Excellent dialogue! So true, I've learned so much. I've been taught that pastor, five fold ministry, is chosen by God, you need God's heart, to do it, you need be called! Clearly this guy has issues. He went, before he was sent.
Look. Jesus said if any person who divorces their spouse and marries another while their spouse is still alive commits adultery. The Apostles gave the requirements of an elder and bishop. It is that they be the HUSBAND of one wife. Jesus gave 2 TWO reasons for divorce: 1 fornication or sexual immorality 2 death (natural or spiritual) . (I) don't see where God says you can't pastor or minister if you are divorced. It is rather what the Pastor does after he is divorced.
It' says that an elder or a deacon should be a man married to one woman not ONE AT A TIME. And you must be above reproach. So no you cannot be divorced and be a pastor.
The Lord hates divorce, whether you're a pastor or not. God will not change his word to suit ours. If your other half divorces you, there's no room for remarriage.
You can remarry if your spouse passes away.
@@a100percentReal Yeah
You just can't remarry her are him
thank GOD i never got married or gave my heart to anyone 🙌🏾 this is why it’s okay to be single forever 😊
Ofcourse it's okay. It can allow to to focus on Gods things fully, however having the level of sexual selfcontrol that is required when single is hard to reach but than again nothing is impossible with God
@@vurra it’s not hard, I been celibate for 11 years now. y’all make it hard for yourself, sex is not that serious or good. My body is GOD’s temple and it’s going to stay that way til I die. Wish I would have learned that at a young age. If you’re faithful to GOD, it won’t be a problem. Worship, praying, reading your Bible, working will take up most of your day so trust you won’t even think about anything else.
@@kekesb well I wish you well sis. Proud of you.
@keneshasb Faxx and agreed!! I feel bad for those who believe abstaining from sex is hard or impossible. If your love for God is real, God is FAITHFUL, and the will becomes strong. 🦾
1 Corinthians 10:13
I've been celibate for 10.5 years and pray often for my man of God- I know he's coming soon. However, in the meantime, my love is the LORD. And I am intentional about OUR relationship and raising my son to be a young man who pursues God first in all things.
God bless your journey, sister in Christ!! 💜🙏🏽👏🏽
Nearly 60years old never been married and never will, married to Jesus Christ only, Praise God.
I’m noticing that many divorced men simply state that the reason was “irreconcilable differences” & the courts use the same term as a broad stroke in most situations. Most often, the reason is simply INFIDELITY.
I’m grateful that YHWH is omnipresent and sees ALL!!! You can fool anyone except TMH!!!! HALLELUJAH LORD!!!!
Exactly!
If she just walk out on him for no reason, his can’t make her stay.
Paul knew this was typical of women to leave so he said👇👇👇
Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord: A wife is not to depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife.
I Corinthians 7:10-11 NKJV
There is ALWAYS a reason.
You need a plurality of elders looking at the particulars of the individual to make The determination as to whether or not that person can hold the office a pastor.
Do not stay in Bondage,ask God for mercy and move out by his grace.
What office would you say you hold? RUclips Pastor? RUclips deacon? Everyone is always criticizing but not bold enough to Shepard people or start a church.
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Must have skipped these scriptures...Romans 7:2-3, Matt 5:32, Matt 19:9, Mark 10:10-11, Luke 16:18, 1 Cor 7:10-11. He's living in adultery.
So what's the answer.
Is this considered a commandments and consequences from the God?
1 Corinthians 7:10
But for those who are married, I have a command that comes not from me, but from the Lord. A wife must not leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave him, (let her remain single) or else be reconciled to him. And (the husband must not leave his wife.)
Jesus continued:] "You have heard the law that says, 'A man can divorce his wife by merely giving her a written notice of divorce.' But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And (anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.)"
- Matthew 5:31-32
Later, when [Jesus] was alone with his disciples in the house, they brought up the subject [of divorce] again. He told them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery."
- Mark 10:10-12
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
: 9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.
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I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--
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not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.
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But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
This is a tricky subject for some. I would say that it depends on the circumstances surrounding the divorce. If the divorce happened because he committed adultery, then that is lifetime disqualification from ministry imo.
If it does happen, remember grace.
We get our truth from the scriptures not pastors
Depends on why. If he was caught in the hotel room with someone other than his wife and absolutely not but if his wife had cheated on him then yes it's not too complicated really
Yes a pastor can be divorced but only if his wife is unfaithful within their marriage. He cannot remarry again unless his wife is deceased.
I notice most Christians don’t study Romans 7:2, 3. Remarriage is only allowed after your former spouse is deceased.
If you become saved its better to stay with lost people in hopes they get saved, but if they want to go, let them. If she is not dead, aren't you suppose stay single ?
Exactly people need to read the word for themselves. Only Jesus can teach you his word because he’s God in the flesh. Who can teach the word of God better than the author himself? No one
Obviously forgiveness & attempting reconciliation in hopes of restoring the marriage should always be the 1st option since it’s in accord with the will of God at the institution of marriage (Gen. 2:22-25). However, if sexual immorality/infidelity occurs or abandonment, or abuse, I wonder how many of those dogmatic about no divorce & remarriage would still be such if it happened to them or a family member.
Question for you Corey. Once a pastor is sat down for his personal issues, what is used in determining how long? My concern in this is those in charge of that determination are human, and the tendency is to mark someone with the Scarlet letter forever. How can the pastor and church reconcile to move forward?
I would say God never gives advice - he gives commands…
So who are we to pick and choose which commands to follow, given its the LORD giving these commands?
“…God never gives advice, suggestions etc - he gives commands…” I love this!
Cori I love you brother my concern is 50 percent of the time your teaching people how to judge Christians I hope I'm wrong....
That’s how it be feeling for sure
Barely noticing this?? Lol
You as a Pastor can continue to preach... ONLY IF the wife committed adultery or abandoned the marriage. That's it. If you're in your second marriage it's permissible if the first wife passed away, the previous reason, and prior towards entering ministry.
The person in a marriage that first mentions divorce, destroys the marriage because they are thinking/planning it.
Jesus said it "everything comes from the heart".
Character Flaw 🤔
That’s a huge assumption my Brother.
I divorced my first husband, he was cheating and gave me an STD I ended up in the Hospital and he destroyed my chances of having children…,
Staying in a marriage that is not a marriage does no One any good.!!!
We need peace, and if you can’t have that as a Christian, oh well I’m out!!!!
Some these messes called marriages need to be put ASUNDER because God hasn’t joined a lot of these people together 😂😂😂
I couldn’t agree with you more 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 God bless you 🙏🏽❤️🥰
They need to throw out the irreconcilable differences bs which is no reason to get a divorce and definitely not biblical
I truly understand your reasoning. But the Bible says “if he marries another he commits adultery if you marry a divorced person you commit adultery”. I’m paraphrasing, but how can you say they can continue to teach and preach after the fact. If there is no biblical grounds for divorce it’s hard to say that a pastor can come back from that. Biblically I don’t see it.
I’d LOVE to see you do a show on this Michael Petro. I’d never heard of him but his messages are brutal.
It’s a narrow path to walk man very narrow. And few there be that find it
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@@bjteacher3721FEW ARE CHOSEN TO FIND IT. I mean 🤦
Eldership is a team annointing both husband, if married, wife. That is why Paul said it is better to be single, then you can give all your attention to Yahuah and serve the flock 100% instead of being distracted.
Biblically a divorcee is not a husband of one wife while his ex wife is still alive. A covenant cannot be set aside by a world court (Gal 3:15)
I knew a wonderful pastor whose wife died. Years later he married a divorced woman.
He immediately resigned as pastor of a church he had founded and pastured for 20 years.
He did continue to preach, but he never pastured again. There is a significant difference
between a pastor and a preacher. You rarely find a Man of God who can master the
talents of a good pastor and a good preacher. They are usually one or the other.
The doctors or lawyers are only professions. The role of a pastor is a calling by God. That means you are going to deal with a spiritual being even after you die. Pastors better rethink their calling and accountability. Stay sincere and obedient to Jesus Christ.
This man is not qualified to be a pastor, and neither is any other man who has gotten an unbiblical divorce. Unless there was sexual immorality or the wife died, he's not even divorced. In God's eyes, he's still married. It doesn't matter if his marriage was years ago or before he got saved, because marriage is permanent in the Christian faith. If he has gotten another woman, then he's a cheater. If his wife has gotten another dude, then she's a cheater.
It's comical that we think The Lord respects our laws. We come up with stuff like "irreconcilable differences," and think God should approve our paperwork. Jesus is clear as Windex about marriage and divorce. He deals with this in Matthew 5. He repeats the same standard in Matthew 19. If a man is deliberately violating Jesus' teachings, then he his bringing reproach to himself and should not be a pastor.
For those who have gotten a divorce and call this "being judgmental," please remember what 2 Timothy 3:16 says "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Let's not confuse correction with condemnation.
If Christians keep simping on this topic and being lenient about divorce, then we'll continue to destroy our families, which is exactly what Satan wants.
@MeachumVillage, 💯
This was excellent!!!! This is it! Your response is not the norm but is the absolute truth!!!!! 😁😁
Wow what an amazing absolute word from GOD Hallelujah well said ... TO GOD BE THE GLORY 🙌🏾
I do agree!
There are way too many factors in a marriage to hold
only ONE person accountable.
Society judges divorce because it’s an easy target or criticism because people know divorce hurts and is unlikely done in haste.
It’s a way for people to extract narcissistic supply when they criticize or judge a divorced individual.
I like this video. I'm divorced. Not by choice. Husband chose his sin nature with women led him away. He initiated the divorce, and although I prayed every day, God let my ex husband finish it. With that in mind, I've become so sensitive to this. The man was making excuses. Irreconcilable Differences is an unBiblical reason to divorce. That term means that two people can't see eye to eye, which means REFUSES to see eye to eye. And as a Believer we lay down our lives for another. If he readily divorced her and kept focusing on the church members, he did not lay down his life for his wife ...the one he committed to first on this earth. And he did need to sit....but pride keeps men pushing forward.
If you are having a issue of sin or otherwise you should sit down.
Excellent teaching
Bible say 1timothy 3 1:5. If he separate from his wife. Must remain neutral. Still be pastor . But can't date or remarry. 1corinthians 7 10 11 12. That's it
Marriage laws are often misunderstood or simply ignored.
The bond of marriage may be broken in some circumstances.
For instance, if the unbelieving depart, let them depart, a brother or sister is not bondage in such cases.
God has called us to peace, and the laws of marriage pertain to every one of us, pastors notwithstanding.
Simple question……DOES GOD FORGIVE YOUR SINS A REMEMBER THEM AGAINST YOU NO MORE?
Thank you this helped clear up some concerns for me about certain pastors I know.
A man can re-marry. Matthew 5:32 states that a man commits adultery if he marries a woman who is divorced. That what the Scriptures state. What applies to the man doesn’t necessarily apply to the woman.
Some disciples never married. .. marriage isn't everything when God calls you to serve Him... His kingdom first, everything comes after
Look at the unruly people Paul was talking to forming the Church Paul gave them no excuses. Do you think Paul was perfect?
where does it say a Pastor can rule "over an assembly" Church----???????
Look at the unruly people was talking to forming the Church Paul gave them no excuses. Do you think Paul was perfect?
I believe what the Spirit says the qualifications are as outlined in 1 Timothy 3: 1-13. At the same time, I also believe what the Spirit says in 1 John 1:9, Psalm 103: 8-13, Psalm 51, and especially 2 Corinthians 7: 9-10.
As a former divorce attorney- the Lord convicted me right up out of that life- a lawyer is NOT a pastor. The two don’t even fit together. As I grow closer to God and read His Word for myself, my choice is to not sit under a divorced pastor. The ones I know have been prideful and loosey goosey with talking about divorce, remarriage, or just plain sin in general. I personally don’t trust them to rightly divide the Word if it makes them look bad.
If one person dont want to be married than you cant hold anybody hostage
I don't think there's anything wrong with a divorced person being a pastor, but at the same time, I definitely believe in thoroughly investigating the circumstances surrounding the divorce before considering a divorced person to be a pastor of a church.
I don't think it's a sin to get divorced in a domestic violence situation, a child abuse situation, an adultery situation, or a situation of a husband and wife not being compatible. In order for a marriage to work out, the husband and wife have to be compatible. Sometimes people make the mistake of marrying someone they're not compatible with.
I do think it's a sin to divorce your spouse due to your spouse getting less attractive, due to your spouse gaining weight, due to your spouse losing their job, due to your spouse getting sick, etc because God wants people to take the marriage vow of "for better or worse" seriously. "For better or worse" means being there in situations such as a spouse losing their job, a spouse getting sick, a spouse getting paralyzed, etc. "For better or worse" doesn't mean tolerant being abused, tolerate being cheated on, etc.
The letters to Timothy are apostolic instructions to oversee home churches and appointing elders as pastors and teachers, also deacons. The qualification for both offices for men and women are listed in this letter, being divorce is not one. Paul made a statement, if you do not know what and how to behave copy me= 1Cor4:16.
...also, the gifts and callings of God are WITHOUT repentance.
The better translation of Romans 11:29 is "For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."
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I think the more pressing point for me would be if you are a person living in sin but you are in a position of leadership then I am not going to take your leadership seriously... Because I'm going to say that YOU are not taking YOUR leadership 🤔🤔🤔
Yes he can my wife divorced me after 28 years of marriage I am yet a pastor I plan on getting married again
You can't !
@@ezechiele.6001yes he can. And go to hell though. 🔥🔥🔥
Actually he can. If you’re referring to Matthew 5:32, that states that the man that puts his wife away causes HER to commit adultery and that HE commits adultery if he marries her that is divorced. That what the Bible says.
My brother managing and controlling is two different things. If someone does not want to stay with you how is he responsible if she wants to leave or vice versa you can’t make someone do something they don’t want to do. And I’m not speaking as someone who’s been divorced because I haven’t been divorced, but there is nowhere in scripture that says a divorced person can’t pastor.
Thank you for the teaching, sir!
Divorce is not a sin. Divorce and remarriage is a sin. It is adultery.
If the wife initiate the divorce and he remains unmarried and lives and teaches a godly life then the pastor is still qualified to remain a pastor.
Now if he initiates the divorce then he failed and is disqualified.
And if the pastor divorces his wife… and remarried to another… not only is that man disqualified to be a pastor or leader in a church but also living in an adultery and disqualified from the kingdom of God ultimately. Jesus is King. Peace.
Answer to your question. NO.. that pastor must sit down. And if he got more than one marriage still not qualified. Get back to the book. These pastors are just full of it..
Corey what program is that lets you compare the English with the Greek?
The fact that he is comparing his role as a pastor to an attorney says a lot. I hope he’s not saying they live by the same morals but I believe that’s exactly what he’s saying. That he shouldn’t be held to any standards above what any other profession would be
Great show Corey!
So is Gino Jennings teachings on divorce wrong?
At such a high level based on whose standard
You’re saying that if man thinks you’ve repented enough and are qualified currently then you are free to minister. No. What does God say? He says that He hates divorce, period, not “are you married now and in control of your home” now. Go and listen to Voddie Baucham and the doctrine of permanence, that’s the correct answer here. I was married 27 years and am divorced therefore I can never remarry as long as my ex husband is alive.
More power=More responsibility
The pastor’s wife was apparently “out in the streets.” He’s being very gracious by not specifically saying what happened. Unfortunately, that man really didn’t have a choice. Very few men, pastor or otherwise, would have stayed in that marriage.
He said it irreconcilable difference not adultery, which are not grounds either because you said "until death do us part" which includes adultery. God said he hates divorce has he changed his opinion? If you do anything that God hates there are consequences.
@@kgar5StringAmen!!! 🙏🏻❤️✝️🕊️
@@kgar5Stringread matthew 19 v 9 for causes of divorce!
women stay all the time when men have their season or even life time of marriage for infidelity. They make the marriage work. Marriage is hard work. Because now they have to remain single until their other spouse dies
@@Brandiisbeloved Women file over 70% of divorces in the US, 90% when they’re college educated. Statistics show that differences in infidelity between husbands and wives is single digits and women in their 20s cheat more statistically. In general, it’s actually MEN who are not seeking to end marriages.
God says one wife one set of kids be holy for l am holy it's starts in your house how can you take care God house but you can't take care your own it is the word of God even if you remarried you commit adultery if your wife or husband still live
It comes with a PRICE, if I’m wrong correct me. God wants His Glory. Till death do us part, but moses
Matthew 5:31-32; Matthew 19:9
Scaring me we have not disagreed on any thing yet. Really scary because people think I'm a rebel.
People that uses ministry as an excuse to neglect their responsibilities in the home are basically accusing God of causing their marriage to collapse and that is not ok. As a believing husband, there is nothing more scary to me than to be ‘called’ to become a pastor. In my current walk in the faith, I think that If God chooses to call me to fill this office, my response would be “nahh, I ain’t that guy”. It’s such a scary thing and people take it with levity.
In this modern churches anything goes. Because that's why they have thrown out the apostles doctrine. But the church is built upon the apostles and prophets Jesus Christ the head corner stone. Divorce is just the tip of their lustful desire. To join with Satan to fight against Christ. You tell christians the truth these days and boy you are in for a fight. Peter the apostle puts bluntly. He said keep away from anyone who does not believe in the doctrine of Christ.
Charles Stanley told his church he would leave if he got a divorce. Well he got a divorce and went back on his word and stayed. Which cause a large percentage of his congregation to leave. He even said that this caused isssues with him and his son.