The Rolls-Royce is typically Rolls-Royce in appearance. The Celestiq is a unique trendsetter, like the 59 Cadillac’s, the 67 Eldorado, and the 76 Seville.
I'm pretty sure they don't kill cows just for the leather, Once cows are killed for beef, one has a lot of skins that should be used for good stewardship of the environment, so for us carnivores, leather seats are not a serious environmental issue. caused by cars
Thanks for what I'm sure will be the first of many comparisons between these two. The fact that a Cadillac is even being mentioned alongside a Rolls Royce is something that hasn't happened in like, what - almost 60 years? That is a significant event unto itself. Just one opinion from the peanut gallery out here - but good for Cadillac. It looks like they've laid the groundwork for what will be a very significant vehicle. Cadillac has spent the last decade-and-a-half chasing the Germans by building sports sedans that out-sport BMW's and Benzes to little advantage. Most anyone who wanted a high performance sports sedan continued to buy the German cars while the Cadillac cars offered better performance and bang for the buck but just never had the right image for the segment. The Celestiq is a top tier luxury car from a brand that has always been about luxury in image. At long last they are about to back up the image with fact again. The marketplace will decide if the styling and engineering are right for the segment. At long last, GM has decided to let Cadillac be Cadillac. I wish them well.
C’mon guys. Just watch Cadillac intro video, it’s only 3 minutes long, and realize it’s pronounced Celes-tick. Also, Celestiq is obviously not a coupe. 🤦♂️
You know I was thinking that when he said that I'm like y'all we eat meat from cows so that leather you just wast it love the floor on the caddy leather floors I never seen that before in the car
You don't "kill cows" for the leather. If it's not used, it's thrown away. Also it is more "Eco friendly" product, since it comes from natural resources and biodegradable. Instead of a "vegan leather", aka petroleum based fabric not that durable.
vegan leather that's not good when you have kids man I'd rather have real leather and the leather floor is another thing ,no one's mentioning this , the Cadillac Celest IQ has three speakers outside the car that amplifies the electric motors sound, I think this thing is going to sound like the Buick Wildcat concept car I think if you watch Supercar Blondie she driving a wildcat concert car and it admits this spaceship sounding futuristic sound that I actually like sounds dark , I wonder if this Cadillac it's going to sound like that when you drive it. I don't know have to see, but I think it will tho!!!
You two can’t even bother to do a minute of research to find the correct pronunciation of “Celestiq.” For God’s sake, they said it about 100 times during the official unveiling ceremony. This was like nails on a chalkboard.
Tesla's are nothing more than another nice car. I mean "Vegan Leather" is just a clever name for fancy vinyl seats. My 2009 Dodge Charger R/T had "Corinthian Leather" seats. I know they didn't actually market the new Chargers as having "Corinthian Leather", just trying to make a point.
You guys are wrong. The back of the Cadillac is the best design feature. You missed the entire point. It’s fastback. The rolls looks extremely old next to the Cadillac
I hate the back of it. But I love the Celestiq overall and would choose it over RR simply because Cadillac is combining old luxury with new and finally being the brand it should’ve been all this time. I hope they recreate this in their inexpensive cars. They say they are replacing the CT4 and 5 with electric sedans so.
I think the Cadillac beats the Rolls hands down. It’s lighter aluminum body, aero-dynamic design and additional horse power make it a faster vehicle and that’s what we buy cars for speed.
What a lot of people don't know is way back in the day (100 years ago), Cadillac and RR both competed on the same level. So this would actually be a century later comeback for Cadillac. Anyway, dad is correct. Electric cars need to get away from the antiquated grill design. Instead of having all the electric/.EV appliques slather all over the car, simply lose the grill. Now we instantly can tell its electric. As for the Caddy, the problem with all that tech is that its the first thing to go obsolete, and will be obsolete after 3-4 years. If they're smart, they will build the display capable of software/firmware upgrades (something all cars, especially premium need to start doing btw). Conversely, the RR will age much more gracefully.
After re-watching this video, I find it kinda biased. It’s obvious that it kills both of you to say something good about the Cadillac. Every compliment is followed by a snarky remark or insult. For instance “loads of modern technology, yes they SMACK YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH IT”
You nailed it. Its difficult for them to say anything positive about GM. Then they wonder why they are not invited. They won’t even acknowledge that GM is not Chevrolet or Cadillac.
Yea GM is going to stop inviting them. I do agree with the back end of the celestiq. It kills the proportions in some angles. But I don’t think they even gave the caddy a fair chance even just by looking at it. Because I actually found myself liking it over the Rolls Royce simply because it looks more sporty and youthful while still being a Cadillac and the Cadillac that should’ve been WAAAY before now.
Even one can have their own views, but why would you pick a car with less power, and less tech , less move in the back , no tvs in the back ,and can't drive it self ,me Caddy all day ! and it 50k less then the Roll Royce ,and you get more for your buck period..... everybody can have their own views ,but these two here very biased I see it's obviously ,very obvious
Cows are killed for meat not for leather. Roman says he hates Tesla minimalism and lack of buttons. And would rather buy the last gas Dodge muscle car rather than the first electric Dodge muscle car.
Lol. Who said Tesla redefined luxury? Old man with a cigar and whiskey glass surrounded by mounds of leather is exactly what I picture. Maybe Sherry for the Rolls 🤣
Agreed, Tesla is more synonymous with austerity and questionable build quality, not luxury. When I see a Tesla, I think Ikea, not Restoration Hardware.
Home run for Cadillac. Every 60 years or so Cadillac has to show the rest of the world how it's done. The RR looks frumpy by comparison, The Cadillac is sleek and modern. Cadillac has no competitors at this level.
My only issue with caddy is that back end. I hope they clean that up in future designs. It looks disproportionate compared to the rest of the car at some angles. But I absolutely love the Celestiq
@@tjhouston1280 Cadillac design has always pushed the envelope of good taste. They always take things a half step further than what many would consider to be a safe design. But that's what leadership is about.
@@MarinCipollina eh… the back of it just throws the proportions off to me. But other than that, I would drive this thing til the wheel come off… if I had the money, because I do love sport back designs. I just wish that back of it wasn’t bulging out so far. It makes it look like a bubble at the back at some angles until you get to the side and back profiles
I don’t know would want a car that is less spacious, less poweful and looks like an old Wraith over a cool new practical “station wagon”. I am just waiting for the new Escalade to become electric - hope it adopts the cool stuff of the Celestiq with the power and more squared off look of a Hummer.
Kind of like an Escalade version of the Hummer SUV, considering the prices Hummers are going for these days, an Escalade EV will be truly insane, but worth it!
Hummer uses the same 400V architecture. It only charges at 800V because it has essentially two 400V batteries stacked on each other connected in series.
Why do you guys insist on being so silly all the time, It’s very annoying. You seem not to know how to announce names and unfortunately don’t know Cadillac’s history. Please do some homework and research first.
My mother inlaw would go to the wrong end of the door for entry on RR. Through the handleless door pulls on the Cadillac could cause problems with most, at least the Lyriq is getting new pulls in 2024!
I do like the light hockey stick on the back. Makes the rear look like a truck bed. It would be cool if they integrated the mirrors into the hood until camera mirrors became legal. It would be a similar position to the Toyota Century of years past. It could also look like the turn signal indicators of 1960's cars.
Nobody's killing cows for leather. It's a byproduct of the meat industry. "vegan" leather is vinyl made from petroleum. I don't like the screens, and I'd take the Caddy. The frame is made from four large aluminum castings, and every build will be "perfect". Rock solid and zero variation from car to car; they'll all ride as intended. I hope you get to test drive one.
Not too difficult to figure out the running gear since the Ultium only has a limited number of batteries and motors. My guess? Exactly like the Lyriq. 106 kWh battery which is actually two of the smaller 53.4 kWh batteries. Motors? Ultium only has three choices for non truck vehicles, 241hp, 342 hp and 83 hp. My guess is the 241hp up front and the 342 hp driving the rear. I think this will be the same as the AWD Lyriq. I think the range will also be similar to the Lyriq even though this car is a lot bigger. Cadillac is using four aluminum mega castings for the frame and extensive use of carbon fiber and stamped plastic to make up the body. Only question I have is why is Cadillac saying the battery is 111 kWh when it’s actually 106.8 kWh? Could it be possible that an extra 0.37 kWh cell was added to each of the 24 module? That would equate to 111 kWh.
I'm actually really intrigued that Cadillac has thrown it's hat back into the the ultra luxery class... With that being said, I'd still take the Rolls. Caddy looks frumpy. And for that price, the Cadillac better not have an ounce of that cheap plastic they love so much. I'd really like to see the Caddy up close and see why they're charging $300K for it.
Personally, as much as Cadillac looks good with the new designs, I'd like GM to stop re-badging their Daewoos, give us some cool designs on Buick, and make them the affordable, luxury electric, as the Buicks of the past were, the bargain caddy.
and yet this channel hasnt done a battery degradation test at all...just promoting garbage and a mouthpiece for the dealers when there one year lease is up vehicles are gone...ill look to other channels for better content instead of this commodification
Wait wait wait I have to pay $300K for just 300 miles of range nah no thanks if you gave me 500-650 miles then maybe my gas powered 2015 4 cylinder impala does 330-400 miles
Cadillac definitely hasn't earned the right to play in that playground. From Fwd platforms to Cimarron to Northstar to their ever changing nomenclatures they've been a mixed bag. V Series had always been a darling. CT6 is a car they should've been producing since the original Aurora concept decades ago. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out
@@MarinCipollina not so much. Cadillac had their idea of what they thought a playground would be with only Lincoln to play with. Never cut it once other kids from other perspectives started playing
@@fgeiger41 In 1957 Cadillac Fleetwood Series 70 had electric windows and door locks, air conditioning, rear window defogger, a V8 with dual four barrel carburetors, electric seats with memory function. Rolls Royce that era had none of those things.
Cadillac? Uber ugly... inside and out! Awful! Roller? That twinkly roof and now doors? Straight out of a tacky cocktail lounge! The exterior is exquisite. But I wouldn't buy either of them. They're clearly aimed at buyers who are both rich AND pretentious. Mind you, that's just my opinion.
The Rich and Pretentious are pretty much the only one's that can afford them and are willing to buy them. I'm somewhat pretentious, but not enough to spend 300k on a car. I have a Tag Heuer Formula 1 watch and blue Versace wallet, das ist es.😂 If I could afford it I'd probably buy the Cadillac, because if I'm going to be pretentious, I'm at least buying an AMERICAN car.
As cool as the Cadillac is, it doesn’t seem to stand up to other cars in the $300,000 price-point. That’s more expensive than most Bentley’s, and triple the price of a top end Tesla, which is faster, has better software, and twice as many available charging stations, which charge faster, and have better range
I'm not sure what the people at GM were drinking when they greenlit this project...but I must say that I'm very disappointed. Nothing wrong with moving Caddy upmarket, but that must've been Mary Barra's ego that jumped right them right over Mercedes/BMW to go head to head with RR at least on price. There's no way that the Cadillac crest is worth that much in brand equity. I was just getting used to the Escalade V at $150-$180K! Also, the designers of the Celestiq should go back and review the elegant lines of the El Miraj and the Ciel and try to figure out what went wrong with their car. IMO, it's fugly! Sorry Cadillac, this is a big L for you!!
I disagree and many other do too. I think it's a incredible bold and eyecatching design that Cadillac needed to have. It's a car that isn't going to be a production line car like the old CT6 was. It's definitely trying to be what a Eldorado Broughham was of the late 50s and early 60s. In my opinion EVs are going to be what saves Cadillac from being a lesson in how a company can go from being incomparable to the bottom of the barrel in under 30 years time.
When I was a kid, whenver a Cadillac went down the street, everyone would turn and look and wonder "who is that?!" One of my dad's biggest goals was to have a Cadillac (too bad he only managed to get a Buick!). Anyway, I want to root for the home team as well. I was so encouraged when Cadillac managed to break from the GM badge-engineering mode with their Art & Science design ethos which produced the CTS, STS and XLR (I still think that the XLR could be a great halo car for Caddy today!). But more importantly they also produced the most striking concept designs in GM history with the El Miraj, the Ciel and the Escala - why didn't we ever see these cars on the showroom floor? I'm sorry but the Celestiq - while it carries over some of the design language from the prior concepts - got ruined in the back. How many people spending $300K want a 4-door sedan with a hatchback?? This move is simply too optimistic to move Cadillac into Maybach territory in one fell swoop. People who disagree perhaps don't recall prior GM attempts to move toward a more bespoke price level - who remembers the Buick Reatta Lansing Craft Center? Or the Pininfarina bodied Cadillac Allante? Both abject failures. The Celestiq smacks of desperation, rather than implementation of an incremental strategy to move the brand upmarket backed by a solid product lineup. I can guarantee you that potential buyers of a Celestiq will not want to see their car sharing showroom space with an XT4 that starts at $36K. GM doesn't know what it's doing and that's why it's trying to come up from behind. Sorry but too little too late!
@@michaelkim3432 Your response indicates how little you know about this project. Celestiq won't be on any dealer's showroom floor. Each Celelstiq will be hand built by commission, with extensive client involvement in the process. Sounds like you're the one that doesn't know what they're talking about. And what's wrong with a fastback with a hatch entry? Cadillac will sell every one of these they produce, and many would-be buyers will be left empty handed. Don't be a hater.
cadillac could've put a spoiler on the celestiq and disguised it as a wagon... or just committed to a wagon. but as is, it just looks weird, and the blue did it no favours. also, the BSM/RCTA better be good, cause those C pillars are thick.
@@allentoyokawa9068 good sir, this is the internet. I'll have you know "favours" is perfectly correct in a great many places with universal health care.
@@PaulTC777 the problem with cameras is they inevitably get covered with road spray in wet weather. and it's particularly bad with salt spray, which dries into a crust, vs water spray, which is usually just a blurry nuisance. and you'd hope someone rich enough to afford one of these things, would be rich enough to garage it in winters, but if they don't, freezing rain may also interfere with BSM/RCTA systems... Point being, as long as the human is responsible for the actions of the vehicle, I'm personally always going to dislike things that negatively affect the human's ability to control them. even if said human is too lazy to use all the options afforded to them. automakers seem soo keen to add more glass to cars, particularly where their roofs are concerned... i just wished they'd stop taking away from the sides and rears, where it actually matters. but hey, i'm clearly not the target demo for these things...
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The Rolls-Royce is typically Rolls-Royce in appearance. The Celestiq is a unique trendsetter, like the 59 Cadillac’s, the 67 Eldorado, and the 76 Seville.
👑cadillac celestiq is better
I honestly love how the Cadillac looks, from all angles
👑cadillac celestiq is better
I'm pretty sure they don't kill cows just for the leather, Once cows are killed for beef, one has a lot of skins that should be used for good stewardship of the environment, so for us carnivores, leather seats are not a serious environmental issue. caused by cars
Thanks for what I'm sure will be the first of many comparisons between these two. The fact that a Cadillac is even being mentioned alongside a Rolls Royce is something that hasn't happened in like, what - almost 60 years? That is a significant event unto itself. Just one opinion from the peanut gallery out here - but good for Cadillac. It looks like they've laid the groundwork for what will be a very significant vehicle. Cadillac has spent the last decade-and-a-half chasing the Germans by building sports sedans that out-sport BMW's and Benzes to little advantage. Most anyone who wanted a high performance sports sedan continued to buy the German cars while the Cadillac cars offered better performance and bang for the buck but just never had the right image for the segment. The Celestiq is a top tier luxury car from a brand that has always been about luxury in image. At long last they are about to back up the image with fact again. The marketplace will decide if the styling and engineering are right for the segment. At long last, GM has decided to let Cadillac be Cadillac. I wish them well.
Amen!
Yep, it's going to be the return of the land yachts now that they don't have to worry about emissions, I can't wait!
👑cadillac celestiq is better
I never thought I see a Cadillac on par and be a competitor with Rolls. And that Cadillac is.🔥🔥🔥🔥
And, it drive its self, and has more power ,and its fester too! Shiiiiiittttt!!!! I take the Caddy!! all day!!!call me crazy 🤪!!!!
It’s not the first time! The 1976 Cadillac Seville / with the Rolls Royce Silver Shadow ✨
And of course the 1930‘s V16 Cadillacs.. 🇺🇸👍🏼
👑cadillac celestiq is better
C’mon guys. Just watch Cadillac intro video, it’s only 3 minutes long, and realize it’s pronounced Celes-tick. Also, Celestiq is obviously not a coupe. 🤦♂️
Cows already being killed for meat. to NOT use the leather is stupid and wasteful.
Correct, the native Americans of yore would be embarrassed by not using part available.
You know I was thinking that when he said that I'm like y'all we eat meat from cows so that leather you just wast it love the floor on the caddy leather floors I never seen that before in the car
The Caddie will be very popular with professional athletes and musicians and they are pretty much the only ones that will be able to afford them.
Believe it or not, but I think CEO’s will like it too. It’s functional and room for golf clubs.
My thoughts exactly, that thing is every footballer's and actor's dream, just wondering if they will make them in right had drive also!
YUP!
👑cadillac celestiq is better
I love that Caddy.
You don't "kill cows" for the leather. If it's not used, it's thrown away. Also it is more "Eco friendly" product, since it comes from natural resources and biodegradable. Instead of a "vegan leather", aka petroleum based fabric not that durable.
FYI: Rolls does not use discarded cow leather.
@@TFLEV doubt that is even truth. Could had happened in the past, but seriously doubt it nowadays. In Europe we have restrict rules about livestock.
vegan leather that's not good when you have kids man I'd rather have real leather and the leather floor is another thing ,no one's mentioning this , the Cadillac Celest IQ has three speakers outside the car that amplifies the electric motors sound, I think this thing is going to sound like the Buick Wildcat concept car I think if you watch Supercar Blondie she driving a wildcat concert car and it admits this spaceship sounding futuristic sound that I actually like sounds dark , I wonder if this Cadillac it's going to sound like that when you drive it. I don't know have to see, but I think it will tho!!!
@@TFLEV Are you suggesting they harvest cows and discard the meat?
You two can’t even bother to do a minute of research to find the correct pronunciation of “Celestiq.” For God’s sake, they said it about 100 times during the official unveiling ceremony. This was like nails on a chalkboard.
They put 0 effort into this video. Just copied some stuff from google
Roman could use a cigar and a glass of whiskey.
So could I but skip the cigar
Tesla didn't "redefine luxury" whatsoever. They redefined deceptive marketing and hype.
Prove me wrong 🤷
Tesla's are nothing more than another nice car. I mean "Vegan Leather" is just a clever name for fancy vinyl seats. My 2009 Dodge Charger R/T had "Corinthian Leather" seats. I know they didn't actually market the new Chargers as having "Corinthian Leather", just trying to make a point.
You guys are wrong. The back of the Cadillac is the best design feature. You missed the entire point. It’s fastback.
The rolls looks extremely old next to the Cadillac
Sportback/Hatchback, like an Audi S5 or S7. Fastbacks have a trunk lid separate.
I hate the back of it. But I love the Celestiq overall and would choose it over RR simply because Cadillac is combining old luxury with new and finally being the brand it should’ve been all this time. I hope they recreate this in their inexpensive cars. They say they are replacing the CT4 and 5 with electric sedans so.
You're correct of course.. Crazy how many people don't get this.
It's BMW vs. GM. GM is a technical giant, BMW is only good at inline 6's. Rolls is stoogy, old world tools, Cadillac is chic.
I think the Cadillac beats the Rolls hands down. It’s lighter aluminum body, aero-dynamic design and additional horse power make it a faster vehicle and that’s what we buy cars for speed.
The look on Tommy's face at 12:30 when Roman was uttering gibberish kills me every time
What a lot of people don't know is way back in the day (100 years ago), Cadillac and RR both competed on the same level. So this would actually be a century later comeback for Cadillac.
Anyway, dad is correct. Electric cars need to get away from the antiquated grill design. Instead of having all the electric/.EV appliques slather all over the car, simply lose the grill. Now we instantly can tell its electric.
As for the Caddy, the problem with all that tech is that its the first thing to go obsolete, and will be obsolete after 3-4 years. If they're smart, they will build the display capable of software/firmware upgrades (something all cars, especially premium need to start doing btw). Conversely, the RR will age much more gracefully.
As recently as 1957 the Cadillac Fleetwood Series 70 outclassed the Rolls Royce by every metric.
I can’t imagine a Cadillac driving anything remotely close to how a rolls drives
If you eat hamburgers and steaks then it doesn't matter.
I was thinking the same thing, what does he think, they just kill cows for the leather and leave all those delicious steaks and roasts to rot?
After re-watching this video, I find it kinda biased. It’s obvious that it kills both of you to say something good about the Cadillac. Every compliment is followed by a snarky remark or insult.
For instance “loads of modern technology, yes they SMACK YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH IT”
You nailed it. Its difficult for them to say anything positive about GM. Then they wonder why they are not invited. They won’t even acknowledge that GM is not Chevrolet or Cadillac.
They do seem a little salty about it
@@ali2k4 I don't know what it is lately, but, I can see a TFL relationship with GM becoming like their Subaru relationship
Yea GM is going to stop inviting them. I do agree with the back end of the celestiq. It kills the proportions in some angles. But I don’t think they even gave the caddy a fair chance even just by looking at it. Because I actually found myself liking it over the Rolls Royce simply because it looks more sporty and youthful while still being a Cadillac and the Cadillac that should’ve been WAAAY before now.
Even one can have their own views, but why would you pick a car with less power, and less tech , less move in the back , no tvs in the back ,and can't drive it self ,me Caddy all day ! and it 50k less then the Roll Royce ,and you get more for your buck period..... everybody can have their own views ,but these two here very biased I see it's obviously ,very obvious
I would take the Cadi and I don’t even like Cadillacs. I wish the rolls was a 4 door.
GM people are saying -ick, not -eek
show me any car in the world and I will still pick the Cadillac Celestiq over anything else anytime, the SHIT is out of Cyberpunk world
Cows are killed for meat not for leather. Roman says he hates Tesla minimalism and lack of buttons. And would rather buy the last gas Dodge muscle car rather than the first electric Dodge muscle car.
Lol. Who said Tesla redefined luxury? Old man with a cigar and whiskey glass surrounded by mounds of leather is exactly what I picture. Maybe Sherry for the Rolls 🤣
Agreed, Tesla is more synonymous with austerity and questionable build quality, not luxury. When I see a Tesla, I think Ikea, not Restoration Hardware.
Cadi Cestiq is looked better and more luxury than Rolls Royce Spectrum
Roman is such a GM troll.
Beautiful cars
Home run for Cadillac. Every 60 years or so Cadillac has to show the rest of the world how it's done. The RR looks frumpy by comparison, The Cadillac is sleek and modern. Cadillac has no competitors at this level.
Your smoking crack for sure RR by far
My only issue with caddy is that back end. I hope they clean that up in future designs. It looks disproportionate compared to the rest of the car at some angles. But I absolutely love the Celestiq
@@tjhouston1280 Cadillac design has always pushed the envelope of good taste. They always take things a half step further than what many would consider to be a safe design. But that's what leadership is about.
@@MarinCipollina eh… the back of it just throws the proportions off to me. But other than that, I would drive this thing til the wheel come off… if I had the money, because I do love sport back designs. I just wish that back of it wasn’t bulging out so far. It makes it look like a bubble at the back at some angles until you get to the side and back profiles
@@tjhouston1280 What do you think of the Porsche Panamera ? Similar rear end.
Will sell like hotcakes
Buy American 🇺🇸
Caddy for me
I see the future with gas and hybrids with better technology ,and new alternative fuels with the combustion engines not just EV'S
I care about tech offerings, so the Cadillac for me.
The name is Celestiq, pronounced like Lyriq. “Cele-steek” doesn’t make sense if they already named a car with the same gimmick the lyriq.
I don’t know would want a car that is less spacious, less poweful and looks like an old Wraith over a cool new practical “station wagon”. I am just waiting for the new Escalade to become electric - hope it adopts the cool stuff of the Celestiq with the power and more squared off look of a Hummer.
Kind of like an Escalade version of the Hummer SUV, considering the prices Hummers are going for these days, an Escalade EV will be truly insane, but worth it!
Not even a station wagon. It's a Sportback, think Audi S5.
Hummer uses the same 400V architecture. It only charges at 800V because it has essentially two 400V batteries stacked on each other connected in series.
So it charges at 800 eh?
Why do you guys insist on being so silly all the time, It’s very annoying. You seem not to know how to announce names and unfortunately don’t know Cadillac’s history.
Please do some homework and research first.
The Cadillac wins hands down.. 💯
TFLEV guys keep up the great work 🇺🇸🇺🇸😀😀💪💪👍👍👍
My mother inlaw would go to the wrong end of the door for entry on RR. Through the handleless door pulls on the Cadillac could cause problems with most, at least the Lyriq is getting new pulls in 2024!
Rolls-Royce got that BMW 7 series asking 400gs with 260 miles of range really
I do like the light hockey stick on the back. Makes the rear look like a truck bed. It would be cool if they integrated the mirrors into the hood until camera mirrors became legal. It would be a similar position to the Toyota Century of years past. It could also look like the turn signal indicators of 1960's cars.
The Hummer EV doesn't have a 800V architecture. The batteries are 2x 400V, so can be charged with 800V but the electric motors work on 400V, not 800V.
Nobody's killing cows for leather. It's a byproduct of the meat industry. "vegan" leather is vinyl made from petroleum.
I don't like the screens, and I'd take the Caddy. The frame is made from four large aluminum castings, and every build will be "perfect". Rock solid and zero variation from car to car; they'll all ride as intended. I hope you get to test drive one.
Cadillac 🔥
That was actually a very smart and fun video to watch
Comparing 2 of the best new luxury vehicles
Amazing video
Phaeton = fae-i-ten, Celestiq = sell-es-tick; at least my take on the name's pronunciation.
As an aside the Phaeton was a VW…and it was an overpriced one at that.
Rolls Royce should fight back by launching an economy EV that bursts into flames while charging.😉
I know, BMW carbon core is known for its weight saving
6:28 looks good
Tommy knows his shiznit Jensen interceptor FF ! Nice job kid.
Dude, why I keep seeing the lyric when i see that new cadillac?
The floor not Leather, the floor is what ever you want it to be , I can tell yall guys didnt watch the press release .
Rolls......
.looks Magnificent. Cadillac....Fabulous. North of 340,000.00. From front to back. Back may grow on me....maybe
I'll order both and return the one I don't like.
$340.000 is too much for a Cadillac, most likely a low sales car
I don't see anything new in Rolls Royce, not very interesting and Cadillac has a brand new design that doesn't look like anyone else.
2 more yuppie toys
Roman leather is a byproduct of the beef industry they don't just toss the rest of the cow.
Have you guys seen the new Smart 😆
They'd both remind me of my current car Jaguar XJ. All its weird shapes and quirks are well represented. Pick one, it's the Spectre.
The Cadillac is gorgeous. The Rolls-Royce has a stupid fake grill. I get you don’t like the Cadillac but have you seen your clothes?
I will take the Cady every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Not too difficult to figure out the running gear since the Ultium only has a limited number of batteries and motors. My guess? Exactly like the Lyriq. 106 kWh battery which is actually two of the smaller 53.4 kWh batteries. Motors? Ultium only has three choices for non truck vehicles, 241hp, 342 hp and 83 hp. My guess is the 241hp up front and the 342 hp driving the rear. I think this will be the same as the AWD Lyriq. I think the range will also be similar to the Lyriq even though this car is a lot bigger. Cadillac is using four aluminum mega castings for the frame and extensive use of carbon fiber and stamped plastic to make up the body. Only question I have is why is Cadillac saying the battery is 111 kWh when it’s actually 106.8 kWh? Could it be possible that an extra 0.37 kWh cell was added to each of the 24 module? That would equate to 111 kWh.
Wrong
No, you are way out in the reservation.
Epic fail
The 2003 Cadillac Sixteen concept maybe, I don't think that this one will work. JMHO.
cadillac nailed it
Tesla hasn't redefined luxury. Tesla defined an expensive car, not luxury.
1:18 Nothing's changed in 100+ years. EVs will never attain the needed infrastructure to break over 33% market share.
A four door hatchback? For more than $300k? 🤔
The Rolls Royce Spectre is a class car
Gm at 300,000. What's next?
Super Cruise +
The fact the Caddy can drive itself and the RR can not
In 2022 say alot I take the Cadillac Celest-IQ thank you, Caddy all day , nuff said!!!!!
I'm actually really intrigued that Cadillac has thrown it's hat back into the the ultra luxery class... With that being said, I'd still take the Rolls. Caddy looks frumpy. And for that price, the Cadillac better not have an ounce of that cheap plastic they love so much. I'd really like to see the Caddy up close and see why they're charging $300K for it.
I actually like the Cadillac…
Catastrophiq vs Rolls Royce?.
On the 50's yes, but today? is a joke?
Check your eyes. They will undoubtedly be popular and exclusive. Every single unit of 400 a year globally will be sold before 2024 even arrives.
The joke is that people are going to pay Celestiq money for a fuddy duddy Rolls.
Start button on the Spectre! 😂
It's Cel-LESS-tick.
Agreed! an odd looking duck ... and 300k. What were they thinking?!
Wait the celestiq is not a coupe lol
Will the caddy have the same problems as Hummer software?
Personally, as much as Cadillac looks good with the new designs, I'd like GM to stop re-badging their Daewoos, give us some cool designs on Buick, and make them the affordable, luxury electric, as the Buicks of the past were, the bargain caddy.
Check out the Buick Wildcat concert car
Check out the Buick Wildcat concept car
What? Did you just wake up from a 1993 Comma?
👑cadillac celestiq is better
CADILLAC!
and yet this channel hasnt done a battery degradation test at all...just promoting garbage and a mouthpiece for the dealers when there one year lease is up vehicles are gone...ill look to other channels for better content instead of this commodification
Rolls Royce is electric 7 series couple If it were offered In electric coupe
The young guy can stay, the old guy, it’s time for you to move on to something else, you’re just talking a bunch of nonsense that is annoying.
cadillac king of luxury
4:16 grossest crap I've ever seen in my life & I've watched abortion videos.
That's genuinely not a joke. You look at Packard, Dusesenberg, etc. IT'S TRUTH
love cadillac
Wait wait wait I have to pay $300K for just 300 miles of range nah no thanks if you gave me 500-650 miles then maybe my gas powered 2015 4 cylinder impala does 330-400 miles
Obviously this isn't the car for you.
The Caddy looks good until you get past the doors. Ungainly.
Cadillac definitely hasn't earned the right to play in that playground. From Fwd platforms to Cimarron to Northstar to their ever changing nomenclatures they've been a mixed bag. V Series had always been a darling. CT6 is a car they should've been producing since the original Aurora concept decades ago. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out
Cadillac invented that playground. They own it.
@@MarinCipollina not so much. Cadillac had their idea of what they thought a playground would be with only Lincoln to play with. Never cut it once other kids from other perspectives started playing
@@fgeiger41 In 1957 Cadillac Fleetwood Series 70 had electric windows and door locks, air conditioning, rear window defogger, a V8 with dual four barrel carburetors, electric seats with memory function. Rolls Royce that era had none of those things.
Cadillac? Uber ugly... inside and out! Awful! Roller? That twinkly roof and now doors? Straight out of a tacky cocktail lounge! The exterior is exquisite. But I wouldn't buy either of them. They're clearly aimed at buyers who are both rich AND pretentious. Mind you, that's just my opinion.
The Rich and Pretentious are pretty much the only one's that can afford them and are willing to buy them. I'm somewhat pretentious, but not enough to spend 300k on a car. I have a Tag Heuer Formula 1 watch and blue Versace wallet, das ist es.😂 If I could afford it I'd probably buy the Cadillac, because if I'm going to be pretentious, I'm at least buying an AMERICAN car.
As cool as the Cadillac is, it doesn’t seem to stand up to other cars in the $300,000 price-point. That’s more expensive than most Bentley’s, and triple the price of a top end Tesla, which is faster, has better software, and twice as many available charging stations, which charge faster, and have better range
6000 SUX vs a rolls 😂
A Robocop reference is always good
I'm not sure what the people at GM were drinking when they greenlit this project...but I must say that I'm very disappointed. Nothing wrong with moving Caddy upmarket, but that must've been Mary Barra's ego that jumped right them right over Mercedes/BMW to go head to head with RR at least on price. There's no way that the Cadillac crest is worth that much in brand equity. I was just getting used to the Escalade V at $150-$180K! Also, the designers of the Celestiq should go back and review the elegant lines of the El Miraj and the Ciel and try to figure out what went wrong with their car. IMO, it's fugly! Sorry Cadillac, this is a big L for you!!
I disagree and many other do too. I think it's a incredible bold and eyecatching design that Cadillac needed to have. It's a car that isn't going to be a production line car like the old CT6 was. It's definitely trying to be what a Eldorado Broughham was of the late 50s and early 60s. In my opinion EVs are going to be what saves Cadillac from being a lesson in how a company can go from being incomparable to the bottom of the barrel in under 30 years time.
I highly disagree with this take. This is the car Cadillac should’ve been doing and should be doing now.
Big L for you maybe. You sound jealous.
When I was a kid, whenver a Cadillac went down the street, everyone would turn and look and wonder "who is that?!" One of my dad's biggest goals was to have a Cadillac (too bad he only managed to get a Buick!). Anyway, I want to root for the home team as well. I was so encouraged when Cadillac managed to break from the GM badge-engineering mode with their Art & Science design ethos which produced the CTS, STS and XLR (I still think that the XLR could be a great halo car for Caddy today!). But more importantly they also produced the most striking concept designs in GM history with the El Miraj, the Ciel and the Escala - why didn't we ever see these cars on the showroom floor? I'm sorry but the Celestiq - while it carries over some of the design language from the prior concepts - got ruined in the back. How many people spending $300K want a 4-door sedan with a hatchback?? This move is simply too optimistic to move Cadillac into Maybach territory in one fell swoop. People who disagree perhaps don't recall prior GM attempts to move toward a more bespoke price level - who remembers the Buick Reatta Lansing Craft Center? Or the Pininfarina bodied Cadillac Allante? Both abject failures. The Celestiq smacks of desperation, rather than implementation of an incremental strategy to move the brand upmarket backed by a solid product lineup. I can guarantee you that potential buyers of a Celestiq will not want to see their car sharing showroom space with an XT4 that starts at $36K. GM doesn't know what it's doing and that's why it's trying to come up from behind. Sorry but too little too late!
@@michaelkim3432 Your response indicates how little you know about this project. Celestiq won't be on any dealer's showroom floor. Each Celelstiq will be hand built by commission, with extensive client involvement in the process. Sounds like you're the one that doesn't know what they're talking about. And what's wrong with a fastback with a hatch entry? Cadillac will sell every one of these they produce, and many would-be buyers will be left empty handed. Don't be a hater.
cadillac could've put a spoiler on the celestiq and disguised it as a wagon... or just committed to a wagon. but as is, it just looks weird, and the blue did it no favours. also, the BSM/RCTA better be good, cause those C pillars are thick.
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@@allentoyokawa9068 good sir, this is the internet. I'll have you know "favours" is perfectly correct in a great many places with universal health care.
The weird shape is cause of aero reasons, the C pillars dont matter cause it has cameras, but looks odd.
@@PaulTC777 the problem with cameras is they inevitably get covered with road spray in wet weather. and it's particularly bad with salt spray, which dries into a crust, vs water spray, which is usually just a blurry nuisance. and you'd hope someone rich enough to afford one of these things, would be rich enough to garage it in winters, but if they don't, freezing rain may also interfere with BSM/RCTA systems...
Point being, as long as the human is responsible for the actions of the vehicle, I'm personally always going to dislike things that negatively affect the human's ability to control them. even if said human is too lazy to use all the options afforded to them. automakers seem soo keen to add more glass to cars, particularly where their roofs are concerned... i just wished they'd stop taking away from the sides and rears, where it actually matters. but hey, i'm clearly not the target demo for these things...
I totally disagree. It’s future and progressive. It’s what the Audi A7 should have matured into
The rear of that Caddy is ugly as sin. Whoever bought off on this styling at GM needs to be fired!
You should get your vision checked.