I've been using a bulky/fast nasty plot Gholdengo with 236hp/44def/28+spatk/4spdef/196spe It gives Gholdengo optimal leftovers recovery, survives 252+atk black glasses sucker punch from Kingambit, outspeed timid Pelipper, and it can still OHKO H-Typhlosion with shadow ball. Gholdengo has been fantastic as a secondary steel type on my Archaludon (best pseudo) rain team with how common and annoying Sneasler is.
I was always a staunch AV Kingambit user until this reg. Now i'm all in on the swords dance tera dark version and it is so stupid broken it's hard for me to build a team without it now lol
Honestly the main reason to not run vest gambit is for protect. Gambit has such a huge target on its back. Being able to protect is so valuable on that mon
Been bullying my friend for the longest with sd Tera flying black glasses sucker punches. Kinggambit so fun got me messing with bisharp eviolite to run the same exact set on him
I may be burning the kitchen down but what about max speed Timmid Tera fairy Chandelure with flamethrower, Tera blast, shadow ball and energy ball (or something else) with choice scarf or focus stash
Controversial take, but these 3 steel types feel more necessary to building a strong team in reg h then car, ice rider, and miriadon were in reg g. Like at least in reg g you could run pagos, zam, or kyogre and have extremely strong results consistently. This reg unless you're running psyspam you are literally THROWING if you don't have one of these 3. And honestly psyspam really should find a way to insert one of these guys tbh. Idk. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel super constrained team building because of these 3 guys...
@@Hockeystick213 Is it? Everyone says reg h is more open then reg g. But I'm combating that very idea by saying these 3 are more centerlizing then the reg g big 3. Which, in my experience, is something most people have serious issues with accepting. Like unironically if you want to win in reg h i genuinely believe you NEED a steel type and almost always need garchomp.
I think the problem with this argument is it doesn't have an agreed definition for what an "open format" means. For example does 1 mon being on every team mean a lack of openness even if the other 5 are generally diverse in specific mons and play styles and archetypes? people will disagree and want different things out of a format as far as diversity goes
@@jooder Thats a semantics arguement. Put bluntly if you basically require 1 of dengo, gambit, or arch,AND almost always need chomp (unless you're tr with ursa or rain) then its pretty damn centerlized. If we were to continue this format for a year you would see all the random shitmons people are using get dropped and the top mons would start to get the 50+% usage we expect. People are just forcing unoptimal mons when, by now, we know they don't do anything
@@Joeybanananas ok so to explain where you're misunderstanding my statement's intentions, yes it's a semantics argument. it's supposed to be, since I believe that's why people would disagree with you. you were wondering why some people think the format is more open despite certain facts you've presented. I'm answering that they look at "open format" to mean something different to you. not that they are right or you are right. secondarily unrelated to our previous points, the existence of bad mons doing better while something some players enjoy is not where most people disagree, people are often just referring to being able to use lower power mons who don't function in higher power levels like eggxsecute, yanmega, yanma, or any fairy type outclassed by fluttermane, not to mention dragons, and not having to deal with many teams that despite fitting different archetypes are all in a sense playing around "protect the president" which can be very tiring, and regardless the diversity of playstyles and mons are still very apparent just looking at top cuts, as we see new mons appear and disappear frequently. But that's neither here nor there I don't really care if you enjoy the lower power format, I simply wanted to explain the disconnect you were speaking about in your original point. If you have no interest in understanding why people push back on your claim and you only have intentions to argue why people you disagree with are wrong when I'm not trying to take their side and simply presenting their perspective since you seem to not understand it and I assumed you'd have interest in that. if you lack that interest then I do not have interest in furthering the conversation as IF that was the case then there's no point in me discussing your initial point that you set out to present and challenging your preconceived notions, even when I may agree or disagree with certain points btw I apologize if this comes off rude or as me sounding like I think I'm better than you, I do not mean for that. I just mean to say I only try to engage in conversations rather than debating something like this ended up being, especially with strangers. I may have simply misjudged what you set out to do regarding responses, which may not be my preference, so not a moral judgement that your intention to debate = bad or anything
I fucking hate fighting archaludon because stamina and its really good defensive typing just lets it spam electroshot and win 2v1s if you can't hit it for super effective and when you can, it just teras or pelliper kills all its checks
@@jmcbango nah bro unless you're talking about specs that's shits like a 3 shot against assault vest arch and specs isn't even a guaranteed 2 hit ko against most archaludon, and the power herb max speed sets would still win cause gholdengo still would get hit hard by electroshot and get outspeed and killed turn 2
Gave this 10 minutes and kept hearing “there’s basically no _____ types right now”. Terrible takes. There’s plenty of mons to make a difference right now
Chat this means Revavroom is viable now LETS GOOO
Mofongo moment
The goat
imagine if aegislash was in this game
Idk how good it would be it wasn’t great after the nerf last gen
@@Weavileiscool it also just didn't really suit dynamax aswell tho tbf
Meh, kingambit and annihilape hard counter him
They can deal with him and king's shield helps them instead of nerfing their attack stat
It'd be balanced with Kingambit and Annihilape everywhere, and Archaludon can tank it
i clicked on this and didn’t realize it was just uploaded a couple of seconds ago
I like how you said "it is kinda cool neing a physical psychic type" just to run no psychic moves on it
As a casual player these meta recaps are crazy helpful for me, thank you for the good work
Sad to see no love for gallade as a real fighting type
If you play on psyspam you deserve no respect /j
@@Rarest26 strong stance not what I use it for but valid
@@NT_Escanor Oh, what do you use it in then?
good video its nice to hear you yap about this i learned alot
I've been using a bulky/fast nasty plot Gholdengo with 236hp/44def/28+spatk/4spdef/196spe
It gives Gholdengo optimal leftovers recovery, survives 252+atk black glasses sucker punch from Kingambit, outspeed timid Pelipper, and it can still OHKO H-Typhlosion with shadow ball.
Gholdengo has been fantastic as a secondary steel type on my Archaludon (best pseudo) rain team with how common and annoying Sneasler is.
Ghold is a great sneasler check no matter how you slice it. I had my no bulk ghold take like 60 from a throat chop
Also please more cat content, would love to see a cat camera!
I was always a staunch AV Kingambit user until this reg. Now i'm all in on the swords dance tera dark version and it is so stupid broken it's hard for me to build a team without it now lol
Honestly the main reason to not run vest gambit is for protect. Gambit has such a huge target on its back. Being able to protect is so valuable on that mon
@@Joeybanananasagreed
Been bullying my friend for the longest with sd Tera flying black glasses sucker punches. Kinggambit so fun got me messing with bisharp eviolite to run the same exact set on him
I may be burning the kitchen down but what about max speed Timmid Tera fairy Chandelure with flamethrower, Tera blast, shadow ball and energy ball (or something else) with choice scarf or focus stash
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m sure kingambit can ohko it with sd and fallen 5
Please make a Palosand+wugtrio sand team! Triple dive brings palo to +6 def and then it skill swaps sand veil along with bright powder combo
This format made me love Gholdengo
Would this leave room for fire Paldean Tauros?
Im definitely here for the metagame breakdowns
Do you think that Corviknight could see an uptick in usage?
Make SCIZOR great again!
Scizor biding its time until Flutter returns lol
Well when you give any Mon those busted stats and busted dual typing and ability’s it’s a no brainer
why is gallade not counted as a solid fighting type?
Cause it is cheeks
Three stooges mentioned I am now happy
Moxie boosted would never be broken in regulation H VGC
Make a Metagross team! He’s my favorite mon and he’s been dusty
Controversial take, but these 3 steel types feel more necessary to building a strong team in reg h then car, ice rider, and miriadon were in reg g.
Like at least in reg g you could run pagos, zam, or kyogre and have extremely strong results consistently.
This reg unless you're running psyspam you are literally THROWING if you don't have one of these 3. And honestly psyspam really should find a way to insert one of these guys tbh.
Idk. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel super constrained team building because of these 3 guys...
Not at all controversial, completely mild take
@@Hockeystick213 Is it? Everyone says reg h is more open then reg g.
But I'm combating that very idea by saying these 3 are more centerlizing then the reg g big 3. Which, in my experience, is something most people have serious issues with accepting.
Like unironically if you want to win in reg h i genuinely believe you NEED a steel type and almost always need garchomp.
I think the problem with this argument is it doesn't have an agreed definition for what an "open format" means. For example does 1 mon being on every team mean a lack of openness even if the other 5 are generally diverse in specific mons and play styles and archetypes?
people will disagree and want different things out of a format as far as diversity goes
@@jooder Thats a semantics arguement.
Put bluntly if you basically require 1 of dengo, gambit, or arch,AND almost always need chomp (unless you're tr with ursa or rain) then its pretty damn centerlized.
If we were to continue this format for a year you would see all the random shitmons people are using get dropped and the top mons would start to get the 50+% usage we expect.
People are just forcing unoptimal mons when, by now, we know they don't do anything
@@Joeybanananas ok so to explain where you're misunderstanding my statement's intentions, yes it's a semantics argument. it's supposed to be, since I believe that's why people would disagree with you. you were wondering why some people think the format is more open despite certain facts you've presented. I'm answering that they look at "open format" to mean something different to you. not that they are right or you are right.
secondarily unrelated to our previous points, the existence of bad mons doing better while something some players enjoy is not where most people disagree, people are often just referring to being able to use lower power mons who don't function in higher power levels like eggxsecute, yanmega, yanma, or any fairy type outclassed by fluttermane, not to mention dragons, and not having to deal with many teams that despite fitting different archetypes are all in a sense playing around "protect the president" which can be very tiring, and regardless the diversity of playstyles and mons are still very apparent just looking at top cuts, as we see new mons appear and disappear frequently.
But that's neither here nor there I don't really care if you enjoy the lower power format, I simply wanted to explain the disconnect you were speaking about in your original point.
If you have no interest in understanding why people push back on your claim and you only have intentions to argue why people you disagree with are wrong when I'm not trying to take their side and simply presenting their perspective since you seem to not understand it and I assumed you'd have interest in that. if you lack that interest then I do not have interest in furthering the conversation as IF that was the case then there's no point in me discussing your initial point that you set out to present and challenging your preconceived notions, even when I may agree or disagree with certain points
btw I apologize if this comes off rude or as me sounding like I think I'm better than you, I do not mean for that. I just mean to say I only try to engage in conversations rather than debating something like this ended up being, especially with strangers. I may have simply misjudged what you set out to do regarding responses, which may not be my preference, so not a moral judgement that your intention to debate = bad or anything
Give us Rapidash this gen and we get a fire type and a fairy.
Kingambit perfectly counters my team so I gotta do some shiftree bullshit
Give assault vest scrafty a whirl
@QBdaGhost nah blizzard is also kicking my ass and I keep running into people spamming earthquake discharge nonsense
@@theanonymouseguy9162could I interest you in wide guard gallade with a defensive Tera?
I fucking hate fighting archaludon because stamina and its really good defensive typing just lets it spam electroshot and win 2v1s if you can't hit it for super effective and when you can, it just teras or pelliper kills all its checks
Modest Ghold shadow ball 2hko's iirc
@@jmcbango nah bro unless you're talking about specs that's shits like a 3 shot against assault vest arch and specs isn't even a guaranteed 2
hit ko against most archaludon, and the power herb max speed sets would still win cause gholdengo still would get hit hard by electroshot and get outspeed and killed turn 2
Bastiodon
All I’m hearing is nerf beedrill
😅
One time i had my ursaluna bm 252 hp 150 spdef and a minus 3 specs gholdengo did 25% like what how
Kingambit really is that guy
The strongest steel type this meta game is tera steel Hisuian Braviary 🗣
The broken steel types are all gen 9 mons , talk about powercreep.
Gave this 10 minutes and kept hearing “there’s basically no _____ types right now”.
Terrible takes. There’s plenty of mons to make a difference right now
The "terrible takes" are objectively correct lol. Im speaking on the reality of the metagame and what we've observed in tournaments.
Go try using any of the available fighting, fairy, or fire types (not incin) and lmk how it goes buddy