The DIY Curb Appeal ANTIDOTE: $30,000 in home value added (How to Build a Gable Porch Roof Overhang)
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2024
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Building this gable porch roof addition on my fixer-upper home completely transformed the CURB APPEAL of my House! Although it did get me in a little bit of trouble with my City / HOA, it will all be OK soon... fingers crossed.
When I bought this fixer upper home a few years ago, the curb appeal was TERRIBLE. So I did the obvious improvements like power washing the exterior, painting the house, replacing the windows and front door, etc. I even poured a new concrete stair landing and entry sidewalk! However, the house still was very unimpressive from a curb appeal standpoint.
As a result, I decided to tackle the ultimate curb appeal project: The Gable Porch Roof Overhang addition!
Adding a gable porch roof to your existing house is a MAJOR home improvement project. I spent days just planning the whole project and modeling the porch roof in Sketchup. But after getting it designed, I ordered all of the materials and it was GO TIME.
First, I built a new stair landing using Rapid Set's 24/6 Concrete mix which is going to serve as the foundation for my gable porch roof support columns. After that, I removed portions of my home's existing gutters, asphalt shingles, and roof decking so that I could access the front wall of my home.
Next, I attached the post anchors to the concrete foundation and cut my 6"x6" vertical support columns to size. After attaching them to the post anchors, I installed the gable porch joists (which were 2"x6" boards) and anchored them to my existing home using hurricane ties.
Next, we mounted our ridge board for the gable and cut our 2"x6" common rafters to size. I have super detailed information on all of the gable porch roof framing within my EBOOK linked above!
After attaching the common rafters using a framing nailer, I installed the valley plate (also know as a "sleeper") on my existing house. The Valley plate will serve as a solid base for the jack rafters that we will cut and install next.
To cut the jack rafters, you will first need to match the pitch of your gable where the jack rafter meets the ridge. For the bottom of the jack rafter, however, you will need to cut it at mitered angle on your circular saw so that it rests flush with the valley plate. In other words, you need to adjust the miter angle on your miter saw so that it matches the pitch of your homes roof. Again, refer to the EBOOK for more info on cutting the jack rafters.
Once all of the jack rafters were attached to the valley plate and ridge board using a framing nailer, I decked the gable porch roof with 4'x8' sheets of plywood.
Once the gable porch was framed and decked, I installed PVC fascia boards on the sides and the front of the gable.
Although I was tempted to install asphalt shingles on the gable porch roof addition myself, my entire roof needed to be replaced. For that reason, I decided to just hire a contractor to install new shingles and gutters on my entire house. It was expensive, but it saved me a whole lot of time.
At this point, I turned my attention to the underside of the gable and I installed tongue and groove boards (as a soffit) to give the entire project a more professional look. I stained the lumber a "light walnut" color using Defy Wood Stain. Use code ATIMPROVEMENTS at this link to get 10% off: defywoodstain.com/?dt_id=1268710
Finally, I installed a stone veneer post wrap around the vertical support columns.
And at this point, the Gable Porch Roof Overhang project is complete!
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Looks damn good, I like how the city is worried if it’s up to code, yet there are probably half a dozen houses in that area with a (danger, uninhabitable do not enter notice) taped to the front door.
I appreciate it! Honestly, you're right haha Definitely a few liability houses within a mile radius.
Wow, this video is a must-watch for homeowners! The transformation from a plain porch to a stylish gable roof overhang was impressive, and I appreciated the detailed guidance throughout the process. It's amazing to see how a relatively small investment can make such a big difference in a home's overall value and appearance.
Retired carpenter here, we always just laid it on roof then cut shingles out metal flashing along roof line. Also nailed in front gable on ground lifted and attached then pulled string level to roof to reference angle. No math just reference. NICE JOB👍
That seems easier if you have the means to lift it (crew, equipment, etc.) Oh there are probably a million pro-tips that I could take away from you and others. The next one will be more efficient efficient I hope!
@@AndrewThronImprovements Two sayings with carpenter work. Always another way to skin a cat ( A better way to do it). And you were saying about Murphys law. ( You want it to rain? Open a roof) you do and did nice work looks great👍
Is there a way to do this without risking the entire replacement of the entire side of the roof!? This is the only reason why I have neglected my project. It’s not the measurements and wood. It’s the darn shingles and water proofing that have me scraping my head. How can I get the shingles back on without doing the whole roof again?
SUGGESTION dont forget to add soffit vents around the house
Andrew your work is always excellent. Just get a permit for outside work if needed. Neighbors will rat you out quickly because they are jealous!
Thanks! Yea.... that was about the most conspicuous project imaginable lol
Side note: it is absurd that you need a permit to work on your own property. I mean, you all are right about getting it, it is just absurd.
@@WolftrackOutdoors-rf6udIt's not absurd. There are building codes. They keep buildings habitable and people safe.
@@micheleriberdy1252 yup, because government involvement dictating activity on privately owned property is always a good idea...
@@WolftrackOutdoors-rf6udYou can be as Libertarian as you choose but you're not an island unto yourself. The 'it's my property' argument falls apart pretty quickly when someone gets hurt or there are structural failures because of stupidity and ignorance. As an architect, I know codes save lives.
This has to be one of the best explanations I've seen on how to do roof pitch etc. most videos just blow past that. Thank you
Glad it’s helpful! I tried my best to cover everything, but definitely could have been more detailed in a few spots. I was kinda learning as I went 🤷♂️
This was like finding a treasure trove of home improvement wisdom! The step-by-step instructions were so clear and I loved how they broke down the costs and time involved.
I appreciate it!
Of course the city needs their cut 🙄
Looks amazing man!
I tried to cut them out but they are undefeated lol thanks for watching!
That is nice!! I noticed that a raised porch adds more value to a home than a flat one. Your video is definitely a motivation!
Felt like discovering a secret recipe for increasing my home's value on a budget. The step-by-step instructions for building a gable porch roof overhang were clear and easy to follow.
Appreciate the support!
Adding those touches of stained wood - amazing man. So beautiful.
I appreciate it!!
"probably was super smooth and NOT sketchy at all"😂😂😂😂😂😂 That's great
Honestly I don’t even know how we got it up there 🤣. Thanks for watching!
You've bought great value to this neighborhood, and your portfolio. Now your critics can eat their words.💪👍👍
I appreciate it! I really do think this project helped tremendously to give it a genuine shot of being curb appealing. Thanks for the support 👍
It looks fantastic! So sorry you are having issues with the city and permitting. Hope you get that worked out quickly.
Thanks! And I appreciate it 😬
This looks incredible! Great work and thanks for the in-depth explanation 👍
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching 👍
Again, you've shared with us another very informative how-to video. Thanks so much for all of your efforts!
I hope it was helpful!! Thanks for the support!
What a nice addition to your house, both aesthetically and functionally. Let us know what the city decides on the permitting process.
I really appreciate it! I’ll keep you posted 🤣
as if i didnt already hate this city enough lol. its always something with them
Haha you're not kidding. Thanks for watching bro 🙏
Great work, Andrew!
I appreciate it 🙏🙏
If 'they' would even have half a clue the kind of work you do, they'd appreciate you improving property values, and leave you alone. They'll raise your taxes, anyways, so it's not like theyre out any city income. Youre doing a GREAT job!! 🥰🥰 I learn a lot from you!! The nosy neighbors are majorly jealous.
I appreciate it, Susan! I’m pretty they have already raised property taxes TWICE since I’ve been here 🤷♂️ thanks for the support 🙏👍
Beautiful work brother!!!
Thanks bro 💪🙏
You should cover those asbestos siding shingles with vinyl, hard to get homeowners insurance if there are any damaged asbestos siding shingles
Keep up the videos! New carpenter from Florida ☀️
I’ve got a few more in the queue, don’t worry! Thanks for the support 👍🙏
It looks lovely, Well done!
Thank you very much! I appreciate it!
Good stuff man!
I appreciate it 👍
It’s beautiful! Very nice work. I’m interested in doing this on my house, Long Island, NY, but wondering about the price range? What is the cost for materials and labor and who do I hire for the job? A carpenter? I have a Dutch colonial type of house that I think this would look amazing on 😊
Hi! I have a cost breakdown in the ebook which should help you to budget. It really could be done by quite a few different tradesman. It’s a pretty simple job for a contractor, framer, some roofers, etc. even an experienced handyman could probably do it. I do wonder what I would have paid to have this completely done by someone else. I assume 5-10k range. Thanks for watching and good luck!
great work!
It looks much, much better than when you bought it! Well done! Now, you need to make the concrete steps into a small concrete porch under your new build. The same size as the new roof. That would finish it beautifully, with the steps in front❤️🤗🐝
I appreciate it! To be honest, I think I am done with improving the front of the house. I am just going to live with it haha
@@AndrewThronImprovements Nothing wrong with that. It’s fine the way it is.❤️🤗🐝
love all your videos, always look forward to new ones. house looks great. wish you were in my neighborhood to raise property values. I'm also remodeling, I feel your pain, hahaha
Appreciate it, Brian! Good luck with your projects 👍
I love it!
I appreciate it!
Good for you man, it looks great like all the other projects you've done. The good Lord must have blessed you with huge balls and limitless serenity for posting this video where all the "professionals, know it alls, engineers" and straight up jerk offs can add their negative remarks. Lol keep up the good work buddy!
Appreciate it! Gotta have a thick skin in this internet business haha And the good Lord has blessed me indeed 🙏. Thanks for watching and for the support!
Excellent
Thanks!!
Liked and subscribed because you were transparent about not getting the permit. Most states will require a perm it when you are adding to an existing structure wether it be a new portico (like in the video). or a new electrical circuit or water line a permit will be required. Removing something and upgrading it or replacing it usually falls under minor work status and usually doesn't require a permit. I'll bet if you ask to present the video evidence you'll have no problem getting approval. Good luck with that and good video.
I appreciate it! And I hope so, I just want to talk to a framing expert to make sure I didn’t do anything “incriminating” as part of the build (E.g “wrong fasteners”, etc.).
nice angle drill on that anchro!
12 degrees baby. Makes it more secure by 8%
🎉🎉🎉 Hi 👋🏼 Andrew
I really Love watching your videos. You make things look so easy even though I know that your experience shows it this way.
I’m not sure if I have left comments before but your advice at minute 13:47
Made me feel like I should.
I’m soon starting my own RUclips channel and I know how much these Likes and Comments mean to you and the algorithm.
Blessings from Paso Robles, California, Carlos
I really appreciate it, Carlos! Thanks for the support and good luck with your channel launch 🚀
Is that a ridge vent in the picture? I don't see a ventilation soffit though. Also the picture shows a funny looking valley with those shingles.
Yea, I had a ridge vent put on the gable 👍
Nice work. Surely that book you used as a guide to framing had to have told you somewhere to get it inspected at some point ... right?
Thanks! Im sure it did haha it’s a long book though so I just skip around to what I need.
Definitely looks like a diy job
Looks damn great 👍!
city isn’t bad guy here though. gotta think about permits when doing major work on a house. City/county code folks dont know u or ur great/skilled work. In their mind u could be some shady or inept person creating all kinds of hazards😂 but cool u hav video documentation of all the steps/work u did. So u should be cool.
Keep up great work n thanks for sharing it all
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Andrew it is beautiful! I cannot imagine the city being upset that you improved the neighborhood and addd value to your property. They will up taxes, (I'm sure). How did you manage to forget the permit? Were you impacted in any way by the Balto Bridge being knocked down? I imagined you being inconvenienced, though I don't know why I thought that. Hope all is well. Please let me know how the permit people battle ends. Peace. Patrick PS: Hi to Brian too.
Appreciate it, Patrick! I honestly just trust myself to build solid things so I was hoping that I could get by without needing one. Not the case apparently...But I will get it resolved. And nope, very minimal issues personally experienced by the Francis Scott Key bridge situation. I will keep you posted on progress and thanks for watching (as usual)!.
What about painting those tongue and groove boards the same blue as the door?
From the get go, few issues no footers underneath the post you just relying on your 5 inch slab not to settle and crack. Also use sleeve anchors intended for hollow block instead of wedge anchors Richard design for solid concrete.
Also, you use the wrong screws post base. You should not use a bugle head style screw, they make specific galvanized screws for that application.
Hey Rob, appreciate the comment. I did put in some footers to frost protect the slab. That could have been a huge mistake with an actual consequence of failure in the future. Wanted to clarify that. And I totally agree with you on the other comments. Things to improve on the next one!
Ohhh yes get permits first👍
Lesson learned 😅. The part that threw me off was that I didn’t get the notice until months after it was done 🤷♂️
@@AndrewThronImprovements Any structure that could fail and kill someone in the process requires a permit. There are a lot of non-professionals who have funny ideas about what's structurally sound. Historical snow and wind load extremes for your region have to be accounted for as well as the weight of the wood itself and other materials. The permit process does have a legitimate purpose in protecting the public.
@@robertp4716 I totally agree. When enforced properly, I think the permitting process is 100% a good thing when it comes to keeping people from doing things that are dangerous. Sometimes, however, it doesn't make a ton of sense to me. Permit to build a shed? Permit to replace shingles on a roof? idk. A gable porch structure though, yes haha
Any way the city can make money they'll do it 💰 😂
Your're not kidding 😬
throw some tiny recessed lights in there and it would look even better
I hear ya! I was going to put in a small little "chandelier" type thing but I knew if I ran electrical I would DEFINITELY need a permit haha. Thanks for watching!
Hopefully your roofers fixed the nailing pattern on your roof sheathing before putting the shingles on. The code on most sheathing is a 6 inch spacing on all edges and a 12 inch spacing in the field.
They replaced a few sheets of plywood and inspected all the rest of the decking - so hopefully we’re good 👍
I love it but only wish you had cut the left and right joists at a 45 in the front just so they don’t stick out so much. Nice video.
I KNOW, same. I have that in the ebook Uber “lessons learned”. Definitely would go steeper and tie the gutters together in the future. Thanks for watching!
leave it to the city to get mad about someone making it nicer. i bet if you had squateers you wouldn't be able to get help. lol
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If you were able to do this in a weekend the city likely wouldn't have noticed. I plan on replacing my old overhang this summer. I wont be connecting it to the house like you did, itll be done in a way to not attract the cities attention.
I wish nothing but stealth and speed haha thanks for watching and good luck 🍀
@AndrewThronImprovements i rebuilt my old patio over a winter half at night, been four years, and haven't heard a thing.
@@3DGEM3hi, this is your city. We now know of your project and we need you to either demolish your new nice patio so your house looks run down or pay large fines to us. You can venmo us if it's easier for you. Thanks.
@delt19 haha. You mean bitcoin.
@@delt19 🤣
Too many armchair Bob Vilas in the comments. Good on ya for your progress!
Gotta love it haha thanks for the support 👍
Start off by saying nice transformation! I'm in the UK so the rules are different here but seems like in the "land of the free" you need permits for everything!
I appreciate it! And honestly, it’s a fair point haha. But ANYONE can start a business - which is a plus.
Whats the name of the program you used to sketch your concept?
Sketchup - free version
Looks great, but anyone doing a flip always when you walk out the front door any physical work done to the house can require a permit.
I know there are people out there who live in states that don't require permits I'm happy for you.
The rest of us don't have the time money or desire to thumb our nose so we do pull permits.
I have had the misfortune of ripping off an entire addition because the last property owner never had anything approved and it exceeded the property lines.
Lesson Learned 100%. Thanks for watching!
Did your roofer put a ridge vent on the gable overhang? 😂
Haha they did. No extra charge 😂🙄
If it was three months after the project was complete, I'd double-check and see if they weren't outside the window to issue the fine and notice.
It could be 5 years later, then can do it whenever. They look on Google maps for additions.
Yea I was thinking that initially but then I started to get skeptical of the logic. If someone “wronged me” and I didn’t catch them for years later it wouldn’t change the fact that an infraction occurred. However, it does make it way more annoying. It would have been so much easier to swallow if they caught me while I was up on the roof with a nail gun and red hand haha
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Appreciate it!
you probably should have gone with a mid century modern looking low breeze block wall instead. that gable just doesn't work with a mid century ranch
You might be right. I am happy with it how it turned out though. Thanks for watching!!
Thank You dingdog22! You are so right. Dude your fit and finish and general work ethic is great, but the style is simply not compatible.
The triangle is a speed square
True. I always call that a carpenter’s square and the larger one a framing square.
You do know that you can use the larger framing square the same way as the smaller one for marking rafters?@@AndrewThronImprovements
Is this suppose to be unlisted? Shouldnt it be public?
Video "officially" drops Sunday, April 14 at 10am.
Cleaning out that mess of insulation and fixing that is definitely value. But not 30k and nor is a little porch roof 😂
I hear ya BUT the curb appeal photos on resale will definitely bring in SO much more interest on the property. Seriously, the difference is pretty crazy. It was almost impossible to make the “before” house look appealing. With the right angles on the gable, it actually looks like a really nice house. The difference in the marketability of the home may just get an additional 30k on the sale. But it’s hard to know for sure.
Looks nice and a door overhang was definitely the right way to go but I think it’s a bit grand/disproportionate for the size of ❤house…good luck with code enforcement …ugh
I’d love to hear what they said was not within code.
People are ridiculous. It was perfectly cute before the gable. Contemporary, cutting edge style? No, but I'd be happy there.
I hear ya - BUT I do think the Gabel makes a pretty sizable difference. Those ranchers with the flat roof line just have no personality imo .
Love your channel but How in the heck did you not pull a permit on such a visible project. Hopefully your video footage is enough to satisfy your inspector.
Yea it wasn't a great idea haha I thought we could knock it out over the weekend and be done with it... but they got me. Lesson learned for next time. Thanks for watching!
Bro cooked
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So basically the city/town said “Hey that property you bought with your money and paid taxes on and continue to pay taxes on. You need to pay more taxes to make it look nice with money you were already taxed on.”
Sounds about right 🙃🤷🏼♂
Beautiful design on the gabled roof. But your curb appeal is ruined by those absolutely hideous vertical blinds in the picture window. Take them down asap before you get fined by local interior designers for an unforgiveable unforced error. A couple of inexpensive cut to fit roll up shades would be soooo much better.
I saw the blinds too. They make such a huge difference that people don’t realize until after they find the perfect replacement. But he’s doing a great job and ticking off the projects one after another. I’m sure he will get to the blinds soon.❤️🤗🐝
Haha guilty. My interior design is horrendous so I will definitely explore some blind / shade improvements.
Interior design needs so work FOR SURE
Wish government would just stay out of people’s business.
I hear ya - I guess the goal of "keeping people safe and ensuring things are built soundly" is a very good one. Sometimes, however, it seems that what is enforced and cracked down on is a bit backwards.
@@AndrewThronImprovements Dude if you put crap out on youtube obviously you're gonna have people tell on you. They city has no choice,they're doing their job.
Agreed 💯
😂😂😂 I love government. If the house looks like there shouldn’t be anyone living in it but you see children running in and out “let em go, we won’t get any money out of those people” but as soon as they see someone fixing a house “*skkkkkkkkkkrt* …..they got money to throw around…fine em”
Awww...
Dear, why didn't you research city codes before starting the job?
The changes of the exterior are wonderful, but codes are codes - you must follow them.
Good luck!
Lesson learned! Thanks for watching!
@@AndrewThronImprovements
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Tell the city stop hating
Amen 🙏 Thanks for watching!
Umm….first things first always ALWAYS get permits first! Gosh
I know, I know haha
The city didn't "Disagree"
The permit wasn't pulled.
Either way, the porch looks great!
Haha very fair. Thanks for watching!
# 999 x 999🎉
Not sure if I fully understand but the confetti leads me to believe it’s positive haha thanks for watching!
Cant wait for the rebuild video where they tell you the entire roof cant be resting on two 2x4s lol
Are you a structural engineer?
You should not be making a “how-to” guide after your first time doing something (I’m a contractor by trade and I would never make a video showing anyone how to do anything). More research prior to this project would have gotten you some really easy wins.
I’m not in the business of telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t do. This is just a project I tackled and wanted to share. Lessons learned, mistakes, and all. BUT I think there is a ton of value is posting things like this. If you ever post anything, let me know and I’ll check it out 👍 thanks for watching and I hope you kill it this year with your contracting business 💪
Hearing cities squawking about being up to code is so annoying.
Tell me about it lol 🎻
Great job for all the d i y er’s most dream of it very make dreams come true I’m curious did you pay fine or do you have to tear it down ?
Thanks! Yea it was almost a pipe dream for me as well - I just went for it one day. I am submitting plans to have it permitted. I shouldn't have to take it down thankfully.
Bro you did everything else you shoulda just put the shingles up yourself. Why hire a contractor when you coulda just did it ?
Time brother. Time. Trust me, I was tempted!
This does not add $30k in value sorry.
35k? 40k? 🤣 thanks for watching!
none of this is good... people don't do this.
None?! I’ll get em next time 🤷♂️ Thanks for watching
Wow from a Carpenter perspective, just don't build anything else, wow just wow. Sorry but you should not be teaching people how to do things until you know what you're doing, which you clearly do not. You seem to fall into the category of "knows enough to be dangerous " 😅😅
Haha I definitely fall into that category. But I think we both know that this going to be fine.
@AndrewThronImprovements it's not terrible but honestly a double joist for the rafters to sit on would have been proper. You have a good sense of humor and can take criticism, nothing but love for you.
Why didn’t you tie the concrete in on the house? Especially if you’re worried about it moving.