Dissidia 012: Duodecim - Gilgamesh Scenes + Battle [English]

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  • Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024

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  • @Hannya_chua
    @Hannya_chua 10 лет назад +490

    omg I just realized, Vaan, Squall and Zidane don't recognize Gilgamesh here because he has a different form from each of the times he appeared in their respective games lol

    • @MegamanZXOmega
      @MegamanZXOmega 10 лет назад +93

      That, and that they have no memory of Gilgamesh due to their memories being erased for now, since even though this is the same Gilgamesh from FFV Bartz didn't recognized him either.

    • @Hebertm2
      @Hebertm2 9 лет назад +67

      But Zidane almost regonized Gilga, he days: "...two arms..." gilga appears on ffix in a kid w/ four amrs foram.

    • @snow8141
      @snow8141 8 лет назад

      +Hebertm2 that's another guy. Gilgamesh is in dagguero below the library :v

    • @theherohartmut
      @theherohartmut 7 лет назад +22

      That's the same guy. He went by the name Alleyway Jack for most of the game, and reveals himself to be Gilgamesh if you max out your Treasure Hunter rank.

    • @mas8705
      @mas8705 7 лет назад +22

      Poor Gilgamesh... If it was Gladiolus, he would be asking why Gilgamesh has one too many arms.
      ...
      Or if it was Lightning, why Gilgamesh doesn't have rocket launchers or assault rifles...

  • @SuperNerdSteve
    @SuperNerdSteve 9 лет назад +114

    "I see you too have been honing your skills"
    Well yes, Gilgamesh. I am fucking level 85 lol

    • @reednelson8753
      @reednelson8753 3 года назад

      a tip: watch series at Flixzone. I've been using it for watching a lot of movies lately.

    • @alecanson9957
      @alecanson9957 3 года назад

      @Reed Nelson yea, I have been watching on Flixzone} for years myself =)

  • @cybermew01
    @cybermew01 11 лет назад +174

    "Let's see, he's only got . . . 2 arms. Nope, me either."
    Zidane never fails to amuse me!

    • @michaelsong5555
      @michaelsong5555 2 года назад +11

      In FF9, Gilgamesh was more commonly known as, "Four Armed Man" (because he had 4 arms). He does reveal his true name once Zidane gets S rank in the treasure hunt.

  • @123123sora
    @123123sora 12 лет назад +169

    Gilgamesh: How long I have waited for this chance!
    Bartz: Not sure what your deal is, but bring it on!
    *Gilgamesh takes 2 steps*
    Bartz: SHOW YOUR FLAMES!
    Gilgamesh: Nooooo Waaaaaayyyyy
    *Gilgamesh gets banished back to the rift*
    ...
    I felt kinda bad for gilgamesh XD

    • @sonicfanglichiy4433
      @sonicfanglichiy4433 2 года назад +1

      Exdeath:your going back to the void Gilgamesh

    • @KHFanXIII-ULRoxasXIII
      @KHFanXIII-ULRoxasXIII 2 года назад +1

      @@sonicfanglichiy4433 Gilgamesh: no fair!! I was about to fight until I got defeated by him top powerful!

  • @jakedge3
    @jakedge3 10 лет назад +256

    We need a final fantasy spinoff featuring gilgamesh.

    • @ZeroBahamut
      @ZeroBahamut 9 лет назад +73

      Call it the Epic of Gilgamesh.

    • @ZeroTheHeartlessKing
      @ZeroTheHeartlessKing 7 лет назад +26

      it's just gilgamesh hopping into different final fantasy games causing shit XD like that lion king 1/2 movie ..................... but good

    • @dawnwayfinder
      @dawnwayfinder 6 лет назад +25

      *Gilgamesh and Enkidu's Excellent Adventures*

    • @olserknam
      @olserknam 5 лет назад +5

      This idea still needs to happen 4 years later.

    • @Cure_Hana
      @Cure_Hana 4 года назад +6

      Gilgamesh does get a handful of arcs in Dissidia Opera Omnia. He first appears as a secret boss in one of the Summon Illusion Worlds, and eventually becomes a playable party member after his Lost Chapter is unlocked. He also plays a significant role in the first half of Act II Chapter VI, where Gilgamesh tries to help a resurrected General Leo reclaim his fighting spirit after he learns about how Kefka destroyed his kingdom.

  • @gravesvsthemachine
    @gravesvsthemachine 6 лет назад +78

    "SHOW YOUR FLAMES"
    *FINAL BLOW*
    I'm done.

  • @Ninetails2000
    @Ninetails2000 5 лет назад +87

    Gilgamesh is definitely bae goals. He traveled through dimensions just to find Bartz and once he find him, he has an entire love letter prepared AND was DTF instantly.

  • @CrimsonMoonM
    @CrimsonMoonM 4 года назад +39

    For some reason, seeing Gilgamesh square off with an amnesiac Bartz makes me kind of sad.
    He had some really heartfelt words with the FFV team during their encounters in the rift and even stopped short of admitting that he had hoped that they would meet again when the ordeal was over and see each other as friends before backtracking when he realized how mushy he sounded. So to see Gilgamesh being faced with the possibility of being plain forgotten (since he doesn't know that there's mind wipes going on) is just... well, sad.

  • @Ebonheart2319
    @Ebonheart2319 11 лет назад +64

    Gilgamesh is a wandering thief, always has been.
    He has also always been comedic relief.
    He has an obsession with weapons, and tends to be either a klutz or a superboss. Sometimes at the same time.
    Thing is, FF5, FF8, FF9, FF12, and FF13DLC..?
    Its all the same guy. He just gets around...
    Same thing with Shinryuu and Omega, but not quite as clear.
    Its rather Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey...Stuff.

  • @errorist3716
    @errorist3716 7 лет назад +103

    gilgamesh's "no way" sounds so dejected, i feel really sorry for him :(

    • @travistoastlord6593
      @travistoastlord6593 6 лет назад +5

      errorist ya. But in the situation he was in, it makes it feel a little funny.

  • @Masterpain33
    @Masterpain33 11 лет назад +65

    It's because when Gilgamesh introduced himself to Zidane in 9 he had 4 arms. Zidane thought he looked familiar but noticed he only has 2 arms so It couldn't be the same Gilgamesh..or could it? Dun dun dunnn

  • @lowhp_comic
    @lowhp_comic 7 лет назад +42

    I now feel very very very bad that Gilgamesh only wanted a friendly spar that he has waited eons for, and you just fucking obliterate him the absolute the moment the match starts :'(

  • @dartole7611
    @dartole7611 6 лет назад +59

    Lvl 85 vs lvl 15
    TOTALLY fair

  • @clenshin97
    @clenshin97 8 лет назад +90

    i love him, i bet he and deadpool would be best friends

  • @schwarzlowenalternative8342
    @schwarzlowenalternative8342 8 лет назад +35

    4:04
    Bartz: ENOUGH expository banter!
    Gilgamesh: Hey, that's MY line!

  • @rapidfire9999
    @rapidfire9999 9 лет назад +58

    Galuf moment
    AMNESIA

  • @perun1nj
    @perun1nj 11 лет назад +36

    Yeah Squall didn't recognize him either? Maybe Squall was too busy having an inner monologue about the situation.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 5 лет назад +6

      In this cycle they don't have their memories.

    • @myourenhijiri5730
      @myourenhijiri5730 3 года назад +1

      To be fair, Gilgamesh in FF8 wear different outfit and use one arm for battle...well, short help summon. Also yea the heroes in Dissidia had their memories wipe so even Bartz don't know the OG Gilgamesh.

  • @AcerbusZeitgeist
    @AcerbusZeitgeist 11 лет назад +17

    I'm just now realizing ALL the allusions in this scene...every Warrior of Light in this scene has had Gilgamesh in their game as a main point, plus the FF9 Gilgamesh joke.

  • @spinyjustspiny3289
    @spinyjustspiny3289 3 года назад +9

    I love that this kind of implies that every single cameo from Gilgamesh where it's explicitly this dude takes place between his original banishment and when he gives up his life to stop Necrophobe.
    As if the reason he decided to stop picking on the party was because he had multiple lifetimes of realizing that fighting for the sake of loot doesn't bring happiness or further your name in the long run. It's fighting for something, or someone, that truly makes you a legend.

  • @YosukeComicRelief
    @YosukeComicRelief 13 лет назад +16

    I love how Bartz mimics Gilgameshs hammy voice "ITS ONE ON ONE"

  • @jefthereaper
    @jefthereaper 10 лет назад +23

    still trying to decide if that was ether the most dramatic, or hilarious way to fade out into the void ever XD

  • @Redfire085
    @Redfire085 12 лет назад +27

    Am I the only one that feels bad that Gilgamesh lost to a one shot?

  • @andretatontos
    @andretatontos 10 лет назад +52

    Squall really has a good ear.

  • @bakkahentai2600
    @bakkahentai2600 13 лет назад +5

    It's awesome that the three that confront Gilg (Squall, Zidane and Vaan) are all of the other guys that the dude has met in the FF universe.

  • @Zephyroths
    @Zephyroths 8 лет назад +82

    LOL, dude you should at least Humor Gilgamesh for awhile

    • @Gri-m
      @Gri-m 4 года назад

      @@sniperstg2 Dissidia NT is a too bad game for him to be in

  • @Bobby_Corwen
    @Bobby_Corwen 11 лет назад +17

    ... Wait so Gilgamesh got sent into the rift... in the rift...
    I really need to play Dissidia...

  • @klaypokemoncraft139
    @klaypokemoncraft139 8 лет назад +19

    I wonder if this beloved swordsman will have a bigger role in the next dissidia game

    • @ScorchtheHawk
      @ScorchtheHawk 6 лет назад

      He’s not even in it. But he DID appear as the final battle of Episode GLADIOLUS in FFXV

    • @IWillYeah
      @IWillYeah 6 лет назад +2

      ScorchtheHawk spoiler alert arse

    • @Ninetails2000
      @Ninetails2000 6 лет назад

      The only thing he gets is a remix. And while good, it's not really top shelf...

  • @frogb00ts
    @frogb00ts 12 лет назад +11

    Five was a funny as hell.
    It's one of my favorites.

  • @Showgingah
    @Showgingah 7 лет назад +4

    *LONG HAVE I WAITED FOR THIS, BART....Z.....The fuck are you?*

  • @sahayeda5220
    @sahayeda5220 6 лет назад +24

    4:04 great fight 😂

  • @sarasadao
    @sarasadao 9 лет назад +25

    i remeber when I play to ffV on gameboy advance but the battle vs gilgamesh wasn't so short lol

    • @donnied3599
      @donnied3599 8 лет назад +7

      I never played five so that was my first time seeing him and to be completely honest I'm not sure what to make of him

  • @Cloofinder
    @Cloofinder 3 месяца назад +1

    It's awesome that the VA for Gilgamesh returned to reprise his role for Gilgamesh in FF7 Rebirth

  • @geanlucas6728
    @geanlucas6728 10 лет назад +33

    I cant believe bartz has forgotten who are gilgamesh

    • @MegamanZXOmega
      @MegamanZXOmega 10 лет назад +30

      His and every other hero in Dissidia had their memories erased when they were brought into the Battle of the Gods/this game, so he wouldn't be able to remember his old rival.

    • @geanlucas6728
      @geanlucas6728 9 лет назад +11

      gilgamesh gave his life to save them on ff5

    • @MegamanZXOmega
      @MegamanZXOmega 9 лет назад +14

      There is 2 outcomes of that fight, either Gilgamesh sacrifices his life or you win that fight before he does so. And him surviving is the canon outcome, I know this because Gilgamesh makes an appearance in Final Fantasy IV The After Years and calls out Bartz's name before he goes back to the Rift after he was defeated.

    • @psypokeslowduck2880
      @psypokeslowduck2880 7 лет назад +2

      never knew that there's 2 outcomes xD

  • @Inhaledcorn
    @Inhaledcorn 13 лет назад +6

    Aw, the end. That was so sad. Poor Gilgy.
    :

  • @michaelsong5555
    @michaelsong5555 2 года назад +2

    Gilgamesh: "I have crossed blades with strange opponents more times than I can count."
    Bartz: "A very low number, I'm sure."
    I wish he said that.

  • @RockerMicke1
    @RockerMicke1 8 лет назад +16

    I miss bender who voice gilgemish

    • @loco4331
      @loco4331 5 лет назад

      Barts should've been voiced by Bart Simpson :D

  • @Skelley1091
    @Skelley1091 13 лет назад +2

    Gilgamesh: Ah yes, Bartz! It has been a long time! Time does not pass the same way in the rift, but I'm sure it hasn't been that long.
    Bartz: It's been 19 years.
    Gilgamesh's journey through the rift, it will never end, or at least I hope it won't.

  • @murasakibebeby3127
    @murasakibebeby3127 6 лет назад +4

    If Gilgamesh makes a come back in the new dissidia nt coming out. I hope he can switch between 2 forms and 2 weapon types. His usual swords and melee form. And his gun and long ranged from. That would be frikin awesome.

  • @SonicbandicootART
    @SonicbandicootART 13 лет назад +2

    I can't believe Bartz was so patient to just listen to all of Gilgamesh's rambling XDDD

  • @skullgreymon
    @skullgreymon 13 лет назад +13

    HAHAHA!!!
    Gilgamesh: I am not the same Gilgamesh you remember!
    Bartz: Your right, your much weaker than the Gilgamesh I remembered

  • @SimonMOak
    @SimonMOak 13 лет назад +2

    best 5 minute scene of my life.. Thank you

  • @magmos6346
    @magmos6346 12 лет назад +1

    If Gilgamesh ever got tired of the swordsman and weapon collection thing he could have a fulfilling career in Kabuki theater.

  • @Kodusu
    @Kodusu 13 лет назад +1

    @xShadowBlitzx That is correct XD. He was in all of them, V, VIII, IX, XII. Hence why they were all there. The reason Zidane said "only" two arms was because apart of him recognized him but when he met Gilgamesh himself he had 4. Squall met him when he had 3, well more but he hid them and all. The closest(besides Bartz) of who should remember him is Vaan but I guess since their memories got pwned and stuff they just dont, y'know?

  • @vinzer72frie
    @vinzer72frie 12 лет назад +1

    gilgamesh doesn't tell the morphing speech because he said that cause of faris

  • @RamixTheRed
    @RamixTheRed 13 лет назад +1

    Now we fight like men, and women, and women who dress like men, for gilgamesh, IT'S MORPHING TIME!

  • @Ebonheart2319
    @Ebonheart2319 12 лет назад

    Everyone he stumbled into he met in his travels. The "master thief" who told you about secret chests and had airship cards from ff9, the random summon that smacked Siefer down in ff8, and a bonus boss in 12. All the same guy at different points of his travels. If FF1 Dawn of Souls bonus dungeon was canon, even Warrior of Light met him. Guy does get around the FF multiverse while tripping the rifts.

  • @HeadBodyMasterPersonal
    @HeadBodyMasterPersonal 13 лет назад +1

    Bartz:Challenge Accepted
    Gilgamesh Wins
    Bartz: Close Enough

  • @guaxinimacanalhado670
    @guaxinimacanalhado670 9 лет назад +6

    gilgamesh from ff5 is totally diffrent from ff9 but its still the same gilgamesh who travells around the universe, but gogo from ff5 who we saw throwing himself in the x-zone is also diffrent from his appearence in ff6, but people keep saying that is not him, come on he has the same name and the exact same powers, even the punishing meteor desperate attack is exactly like the one he uses in ffv when he punishes you for not mimic him!

  • @Murk_Wolfheart
    @Murk_Wolfheart 3 года назад

    3:27: "Alright! sounds like fun. Challenge accepted :3"
    *:3*

  • @deviltetsuo555
    @deviltetsuo555 13 лет назад

    @Kzar5678
    gilgamesh wasn't ment to be here the memory loss is only for the war goers, he came from the rift not by summon

  • @RedMageCole
    @RedMageCole 13 лет назад

    Zidane: Lets see, he's only got..two arms. Nope, me neither.
    Gilgamesh: What do ya mean, "only"? Like, if I had extra limbs you'd suddenly recognize me as somebody else?
    Reference to the fact that the Gilgamesh (Alleyway Jack) in Final Fantasy IX has 4 arms.

  • @TheTimeMage
    @TheTimeMage 13 лет назад

    how long have I waited for a match that lasted about a second...

  • @DarkknightChris
    @DarkknightChris 11 лет назад

    Well it's said in the game that everyone has few memories of their homeworlds. They started to remember more towards the end of the game.

  • @PeteThePlayer
    @PeteThePlayer 13 лет назад +3

    Gilgamesh actually know Squall and Vaan as well.... Why is he only going for Bartz? Just because he faced him the most? Gah who cares
    Gilgamesh is awesome!

  • @DG-nv4pf
    @DG-nv4pf 4 года назад

    Gil broke into the memory bank and was deleted

  • @blizzardhusky15
    @blizzardhusky15 7 лет назад +1

    Best Dissidia battle ever

  • @Th0mmy11
    @Th0mmy11 13 лет назад

    Gilgamesh: BLABLABLA!
    *Fight*
    Matt's char: *Pokes with sword*
    WIN!

  • @bosgotnojams
    @bosgotnojams 5 лет назад

    that battle was intense

  • @lighth4zard
    @lighth4zard 13 лет назад

    He seems friendly to bartz in demeanor... poor gilgamesh.

  • @deviltetsuo555
    @deviltetsuo555 13 лет назад

    @TheCameranator
    im pretty sure it is, he's just changed his tone a bit.
    i mean if you don't hear robot-santa in his voice when he said "well well bartz we meet again" i really have no hope for you

  • @RosettaLuv
    @RosettaLuv 13 лет назад

    LOL at Bartz's facial expression at 2:10 . He's all like "Whaaaaa?? "

  • @kaylabear4696
    @kaylabear4696 5 лет назад

    Gilgamesh really does love to hear himself talk doesn't he

  • @lonqu9985
    @lonqu9985 3 года назад

    Can we all agree that gilgamesh is the deadpool of FF?

  • @Hero_of_Legend
    @Hero_of_Legend 12 лет назад

    Actually, Kuja already had all of his power, before he had learned of his mortality. It was simply dormant, waiting for him to enter "trance" (the game's version of Limit Break), to release it.

  • @drfloorpills
    @drfloorpills 3 года назад

    Aw, Greg remembered me!

  • @axelvoss9653
    @axelvoss9653 4 года назад

    It's even funnier if you look at these scenes without knowing the story of Dissidia, so it just looks like Bartz legit forgot who Greg is.

  • @Hero_of_Legend
    @Hero_of_Legend 12 лет назад

    I believe Square-Enix has insinuated a number of times that Sephiroth would be the single most powerful of FF villains. One, this game's depiction of Shantoto praising his power, while other villainous characters acknowledge her as being more powerful than themselves.
    2: Kingdom Hearts seems to enjoy putting him in as the ultimate optional boss.
    Kefka would likely be a close 2nd place, but I believe that Sephiroth is the official ultimate villain for Final Fantasy.

  • @Monado158
    @Monado158 12 лет назад

    I didn't mean the game as a whole, but the Gilgamesh fight. I haven't played much of VI, but from what I know, that fight's only in the Advance version.

  • @HeavyMetalBeliever
    @HeavyMetalBeliever 13 лет назад

    Gilgamesh just wanted a friend.

  • @giadaelacapsuladeivideogiochi
    @giadaelacapsuladeivideogiochi 5 лет назад +1

    Why didn't Bartz remember Gilgamesh? XD

  • @makhyusnimakhyusni401
    @makhyusnimakhyusni401 3 года назад +1

    Squall really talkative in head

  • @MimebladeGMail
    @MimebladeGMail 6 лет назад +1

    I really hope Gilgamesh shows up in NT... he HAS to.

  • @MisterSmith00
    @MisterSmith00 4 года назад

    Gilgamesh has got the peacock-strut DOWN.

  • @TheCamster4545
    @TheCamster4545 13 лет назад

    It sounds like Gilgamesh is madly in love with Bartz doesn't it? I love the arms refrennce though :)

  • @TheAzulmagia
    @TheAzulmagia 12 лет назад

    Zidane seems to remember Gilgamesh at least.

  • @Hero_of_Legend
    @Hero_of_Legend 12 лет назад

    uh...yes there is. Where you get the idea that there is not, I couldn't begin to wonder.

  • @Monado158
    @Monado158 12 лет назад

    He was also in FFIV After Years, VI Advance (Not really canon though), and I believe he was in XI. Oh, and XIII-2.

  • @KisiroKitsune
    @KisiroKitsune 12 лет назад

    It might be before he met them from his perspective - I dunno, maybe travelling through the Void does weird stuff with time.

  • @Demondestro8
    @Demondestro8 12 лет назад

    that battle wasnt even a SECOND long

  • @DarkknightChris
    @DarkknightChris 11 лет назад

    Try to unlock Reports 18 and 19 and you get to see those scenes you were talking about in English.

  • @pepot119
    @pepot119 13 лет назад

    Wow... who would have guess that Gilgamesh would appear then Bartz wouldn't remeber?

  • @Hero_of_Legend
    @Hero_of_Legend 12 лет назад

    Again, it was Jenova using his image. But it was Sephiroth himself that was controlling her.
    In Hojo's own words, "Jenova's reunion, and Sephiroth's will..." which indicates that the Jenova clones were acting on Sephiroth's order. Not Jenova, herself. She was HIS pawn. Not the other way around.

  • @MetroidMewtwo
    @MetroidMewtwo 13 лет назад

    @xShadowBlitzx But Gilgamesh always struck me as a Large Ham or Boisterous Bruiser in terms of when he talks, and Keith just doesn't seem very Hammy or Boisterous for a majority of these two scenes.
    If he ever reprises the Role of Gilgamesh in a later title, I wouldn't mind it, as long as he's Hammy/Boisterous more of the time..

  • @ElisabethPoland
    @ElisabethPoland 13 лет назад

    Gilgamesh: Bartz! You remember me! Last night, from the party?
    Bartz: ...Tom? 8D

  • @assaindude
    @assaindude 13 лет назад

    @xShadowBlitzx yeah he was he was a thief in 9 but he was named something else and if u learn something he tells u your name is gilgamesh

  • @zanrokand88
    @zanrokand88 13 лет назад

    XD okay, I like how you ended that battle!

  • @stevieFFmaster
    @stevieFFmaster 13 лет назад

    Funny how no one seems to remember Gilgamesh.

  • @PKRockin7
    @PKRockin7 13 лет назад

    Damn I want this game back... Poor gilgamesh. That scene was very funny.
    BTW Bartz' actor got like 100X better.

  • @deviltetsuo555
    @deviltetsuo555 12 лет назад

    doesn't matter, they barely remember ppl who are there, never mind somebody who isn't part of the game.

  • @MetroidMewtwo
    @MetroidMewtwo 13 лет назад

    While the lack of John DiMaggio leaves me disappointed, I guess Keith Szarabajka isn't TOO bad...
    He needs more Ham, though.

  • @michaelsong5555
    @michaelsong5555 2 года назад

    Last time Bartz met Gilgamesh (that was FF5), didn't Gilgamesh blow himself up with Kamikaze attack, to save Bartz and his party?

  • @DrakeyC
    @DrakeyC 13 лет назад

    @xShadowBlitzx Ah well, for the best so his journey can continue. After all, what would Final Fantasy be without Gilgamesh?

  • @Daftelfy
    @Daftelfy 13 лет назад

    love his voice, funny yet serious when it comes to it :P
    although gilgamesh and being serious in line is kind of impossible

  • @Hero_of_Legend
    @Hero_of_Legend 12 лет назад

    Actually, official canon recognizes Sephiroth as being in control of Jenova, not the other way around. Jenova is HIS lackey. He simply chooses to continue her goals.
    Other than that, I'd say you're pretty much on the money.

  • @rpgwarlord2012
    @rpgwarlord2012 13 лет назад +2

    @xShadowBlitzx They should add Faris, so that we can fight like men... ladies... and ladies who dress like men!

  • @Batman-nj4eq
    @Batman-nj4eq 7 лет назад +1

    I wanted to see the fight and it was over in 1 second lol

  • @BuckmeisterSupremeWithCheese
    @BuckmeisterSupremeWithCheese 13 лет назад

    ...This is the same guy who blew Seifer away like a bawse, right?
    ...Seifer, you panzy.

  • @Jochira_VTuber
    @Jochira_VTuber 12 лет назад

    what about the scenes from when Gilgamesh was image training from the reports you can unlock from An Untold Tale? owo
    and poor Gilgamesh, nyan~~ :3

  • @Gilgadood
    @Gilgadood 13 лет назад

    "im not the same Gilgamesh you remember!"
    ...he doesnt remember you at all...

  • @Daftelfy
    @Daftelfy 13 лет назад

    @xShadowBlitzx what did you mean with " too bad i transferred my data from the original dissidia"?