Great review, as always! I rented a Camry SE from Enterprise a few months ago for work. Even with a lot of miles it hit all the basics and was comfortable on a 700-mile trek to and from Ft Lauderdale. It’s clear why they sell a bajillion of em.
My dad had his Camry sedan for almost 20 years and I've had mine for more than a decade. Great reliable comfortable cars, but not a sports car by any means. Thanks for the terrific overview on the new Camrys and Happy New Year, Tyler!
After confirming your observations regarding the Camry lineup by testing them all back to back, I found myself in further agreement with you regarding the trim packages, as well as the best-use case for the Camry as a whole. In the end, I decided that buying a Camry for its Fun Factor is rather silly, and misses the point. Better to take advantage of the Camry's primary attributes: reliability, value, comfort, simplicity, fuel mileage. Don't prioritize aesthetics and surface-deep performance enhancements over the Camry's core strengths. In other words, get the most affordable hybrid Camry, the Hybrid LE, the monster fuel-mileage model with the smoothest, quietest ride of the entire lineup. Six mpg better than the already great mileage of the other hybrid trims: 51 mpg city, 53 highway, 52 combined, vs 44 city, 47 highway, 46 combined. 52 mpg combined for a midside sedan that is satisfyingly fast, smooth, quiet, and roomy? That's insane. The Hybrid LE's narrow 16" wheels with the low rolling-resistance, tall-sidewall tires are noticeably quieter than, say, the wider 18's and 19's on the SE, XLE, and XSE, while also providing a plusher ride. I just wish they'd used a lightweight 16" alloy wheel instead of the steelies with hubcaps. The 17" alloys on the standard gas-powered LE would have been perfect for the Hybrid LE, only in a 16". I bought a set of better-looking 16", five-spoke alloys in the correct width, only to discover an immediate reduction in fuel mileage vs the stock wheels. Here's the brerakdown... Stock wheels: 60 mph or lower in Eco mode, I average low-to mid-60 mpg. Normal mode reduces this number by two mph, give or take. 65 mph equates to a consistent 55 mpg. 70 mph brings it down to 50-51 mpg. This is on winter-blend fuel, in 40-50-degree temps. Point being, higher speeds have a dramatic negative effect on fuel mileage with the hybrid; moreso than with the gas model. Most of the time, if I want that 60+ mpg, I have to be in the far right lane, and still I'm usually holding up traffic. If I stay with the flow of freeway traffic, I have to accept that my fuel mileage will drop below the EPA rating of 53 mpg on the freeway. Aftermarket 16" alloys: Everything drops by three to five mpg. Tough call there, stylish wheels, or as-advertized (or even better) fuel mileage? I haven't specifically tested the city mileage. All my testing has been on long freeway trips. Other notes... Yes, the infortainment system is very dated. It works perfectly fine, but it certainly isn't pretty. It looks like an old Windows 7 program. My rationalization there is, well, so what? No matter what I buy now, in a few years it's going to be dated. Since I plan on keeping this car for fifteen-plus years, there is no way to avoid having a dated interior, sooner or later. At least it's user-friendly and glitch-free. Physical knobs and switches for everything. Everything is properly illuminated. No menu surfing. No touch-capacitive garbage. I don't ask much of it, but it does everything it should, without hiccups. Typical Toyota tech. Set it and forget it. It won't thrill your teenage daughter and her Instagram-addled friends, but it also won't let you down. The interior seems extremely well put together, with zero squeaks or rattles. It helps that I didn't opt for a moonroof, which is often the prime culptrit for squeaks, rattles, and other issues. Ditching the sunroof also makes for less wind noise, so it's another win. Not much piano black, either, and it's not in high-use areas. Also, it isn't straight black plastic. Instead, it has an unusual, cool-looking sparkly metal flake, adding a welcome touch of color. As piano black goes, it's perfectly acceptable. While I find the seats very comfortable, and really enjoy the fact that they include adjustable lumbar even on the base model, I do wish the heating element in the seats covered a larger area. I would like them to be hotter, as well. They do the job, but more of both would be welcome. As it is, only the lower back and butt receive any heat. Ditto, the heated steering wheel. The heated portion works great, but it only covers the sides of the wheel. The top and bottom halves are unheated, and the top of the wheel is where I normally rest my hand. At least the leather cover is very high quality. Tight fit, luxurious feel. Still, come on, Toyota. Do the entire steering wheel. The brakes work like normal brakes, for the most part. I rarely notice them, other than sometimes I think they're a little slow to react in the first part of the pedal travel. They're fine, no problem, but if you're used to sportier brakes, these take some getting used to. The hybrid powertrain is just stupidly good. It's so much punchier than the gas version, while also being significantly quieter. Perhaps this Hybrid LE isn't luxury-car quiet, but it's not far off, either. It's very quiet, and with those tall sidewall tires, the ride is wonderfully plush. The vast majority of the time, you aren't even aware that you're running a hybrid. It's that smooth and seamless. Surprisingly, there isn't all that much body roll. The SE and XSE have less body roll, as well as a firmer ride, but they aren't sporty enough to make for a worthwhile tradeoff. The "comfort" models already handle more than well enough, and adding that extra bit of handling prowess with the SE and XSE still doesn't mask the car's weight. It's agile for what it is, but you can never get away from the fact that it's a large, comfortable, midsize sedan, a family hauler. Even in XSE trim, it's no M5, so why bother? The base model gives up 10-15% of sporty handling in exchange for an equal or greater improvement in ride quality, quietness, and overall smoothness. What would be a perfect Camry? Well, sure, a TRD with a good 6-speed manual and a proper LSD would be tough to pass up. It wouldn't cost much, either, since the TRD is fairly stripped down. I definitely would have bought one. Give it the updated infotainment found in every other 2023 Toyota, and all the bases would be covered. On the flipside, simply give the Hybrid LE that same better infotainment along with aero-friendly alloy wheels and more heating arera for the seats and steering wheel, and that's the perfect daily driver. Lacking those two extremes, I think the Hybrid LE is the best choice in the Toyota lineup. Prioritize quality, value, and real-word common sense over vanity, and that Hybrid LE is probably the best overall car available today. Just don't pay over msrp for one, and you can't go wrong.
The white version looks best with the blackout package. I own a 2022 Camry SE Nightshade AWD and I love it. The 4 cyl mated with the 8 spd automatic in sport mode is actually pretty dam fast, 6.5 seconds 0-60mph, for size of engine. The only thing I HATE is that there is no memory for seat adjustment. After seeing the upgrades for 2023 I'm happy I got the 2022. If you want the TRD, get a fully loaded XSE and TRD badging and forego the TRD. Waste of money.
The two trims that are really nice are the XLE and XSE . The Camry TRD is Nothing but an SE with a V6 with a convenience package that you're not able to get with homelink.. There is hardly anything on it that is upgraded.. You're better off to get a V6 on the top two trims if you want more power..
Credit where credit’s due, the trd has a different suspension setup, aero, and is a cheap way to get the v6. It’s still silly and really needs an LSD but it’s not a terrible deal.
For anybody wondering I bought my le awd in 2020 new. The window sticker said 34 highway and sometimes I get 39 or higher. Depending on where I am at. But overall I average 35. I also found out for rear vents you need to have the audio or convince package.
I have been a toyota owner for years, after a deer totaled my 2009 corolla with 250k miles I needed a replacement commuter car, I picked up a 2022 Camry hybrid nightshade in white, I'm not driving through twisty canyon roads so I don't need razor sharp steering and handling, what I need after a hard days work is a smooth quiet ride home, this car delivers and to that 40 plus mpg win win win, if the weather is rough I take my 2007 FJ Cruiser with 137k miles which by the way is a break in for this beast
I'm having a hard time deciding between this and a RAV4. Don't necessarily need another SUV in the family since we have one considering the Camry can be had with AWD.
One of the small issues in the overall trim choice may be the fact you can't lower the back seats anymore in the upper trim level to enlarge boot space (which is only about average) This apart, strange how this car doesn't sell at all in Western Europe...Over here, you can literally count the number you see in a month on one hand. Never understood it...The normal sedan is completely "out" over here. That is, for now...
I have a 2018 se hybrid. Purchased with 16k miles. Has 60k now. No issues, been a great car. When it time for a new car will definitely be considering another Camry or toyota suv hybrid. Highly recommend this generation of camry's to my friends. Love the design. I actually switched out my tail lights to the xse model tail lights. That is the only change i have done to the car. Everything else is stock. Car still looks and drives great. Spend $25 on gas weekly.
Most likely 2023 with be the last model year of this generation Camry its due for a redesign typically Toyota redesigns their models every 6 years and with the Camry still being popular I wouldn’t see why they wouldn’t
I wish these were more affordable. Although I am going to pick up my XSE 4-Cylinder (38.5k out the door with electronics warranty) it feels a bit expensive. I will keep it running for at least 300,000 miles.
One BIG thing you missed -- 2023 also introduced a new color for all models -- Reservoir Blue -- which is the color we selected for our factory-ordered 2023 Camry XLE AWD model!!! We couldn't get a Hybrid (they don't have AWD options either); there's a 6-month waiting list. We are replacing our 2020 Honda Accord Touring 2.0T sedan, coming off lease in May. Looking forward to finally returning to Toyota (hubby is 6'3" and couldn't fit in older Camrys, and can no longer fit in redesigned Accord).
Battling myself right now, I have a 2023 civic reserved, but it's not going to be in until June, and a Camry is available tomorrow for around the same price. Camry has a real 8 speed auto, and bigger I4 with more power, to the Civic's CVT and 150 hp 2.0.
See the Carsthatlast videos for older vehicles that are generally more reliable. I have seen reviews choosing the Honda Civic over the Corolla or Camry for how it drives, and the 2023 Prius production has already been pre-ordered. Every March I go to the public library to read the April car issue of Consumer Reports magazine, over 300 thousand subscribers submit their annual survey for vehicle repairs. We live about 20 miles from where Camrys are assembled in Kentucky, but have joined the SUV fad for more visibility and easier to get in and out of at 63 years old. We have a RAV4 with over 200 thousand miles that still drives well with few repairs so far, and we own 3 Mazda CX-5s, a 2013, 2015 and 2018. One spark plug coil failed at 105 thousand miles for the 2013, and it needed a new automatic transmission shifter earlier, partly covered by the dealer and redesigned for 2014. My advice is to avoid JD Power paid for ratings, focus more on independents for vehicle advice, and test drive your top choices at least 3 times over several weeks, including at least one that has you going 75 mph for 2 hours to test seat comfort. The Mazda seats feel too stiff at first, but are comfortable for a long trip. They also steer very well and have good speakers for the price, both the base model and the upper Bose speakers. Our 3 CX-5s are one the top trim with leather, and 2 the mid-level trim with fake leather. Mazdas are nice because they include heated front seats and an optional sunroof and all wheel drive for the mid level model, for some years. If you can live with smaller and uglier, the CX-30 is a good price. I also recommend seeing what CarMax has available used, they charge a reasonable price to put a vehicle on a truck from 300 miles away, maybe from an area south with less road salt, so you can test drive it and maybe buy it locally. The dealers seem to have a lower used price, until you find out their out the door price has a lot of scummy add ons. I bought my Mazda CX-5 used with 10 thousand miles from a CarMax, and it had a window sticker showing the oil was changed at 5 thousand miles. Even if fake they come with synthetic oil, and I avoided the risk of some dumbass previous owner not changing the oil for 20 thousand miles or more.
@@ThisWasEpicness I have, and I’ve had 2 Hondas and 0 Toyotas as of yet. I prefer the Accord, but its lacking with 2 power plants (1.5T and 2.0 hybrid) where as the Camry has the normally aspirated 2.5, 2.5 hybrid and still offer a 3.5V6. If Honda offered AWD, I would lean towards the Accord. You have to bump up to the Acura TLX with either a 2.0T or 3.0T to get the AWD from Honda.
100% TRUTH. The 1st year of this 8 Gen which was 2018 had all the glitches and problems and we're all fixed. By now, 2023, this Camry should last 200-300k miles without a blink of an eye if maintained right.
I got a 23 se camry base 2.5 motor is good for me gas is OK on it... it was a dealer service car just the toyota dealer owned it. I got it for. 27.900 with the miles at. 6 000. Now got 15.000. All good so far
i am driving this one 23 for a month on rent and figured out that the engine has no power and start screaming & yelling within 1 second after starting ! i had honda accord 2000 & it pickup like an 🚀
I’m not 1 bit stoked on the small turbo/CVT Hondas!! I’ve owned 5 Hondas but just bought my 1st Toyota yesterday- a Camry I-4 SE brand new (cheaper than used somehow) cuz it’s likely the last ice/regular trans I’ll ever be able to buy esp in CA!! Over 200 HP out of a 4 pot is great- more HP than my older V6 Lexus & Honda!! I got $28,300 OTD so methinks I did well!! 😎🤙
I got a 2023 camry se upgraded, to all people who have a 2023 se, does yours make noise when starting after being parked for hours? Mine does some noise for like 10-15 seconds then stops, and doesnt do it when hot. Called toyota, the mechanic says he has a 22 and it does the same... I dunno if hes full of s* or if its normal.... thanks!!
All Camry’s have spare tires (donut, only dedicated off-road trims, trucks, large suvs have a full-size spare anymore to my knowledge) I believe the ground clearance is all the same but google could tell you the number!
I don't know if the upgraded leather seats are any better but the base fabric seats are terrible. I received one as a rental with about 5,000 miles on it and even though there's a lot to like about the car the god-awful seats are a definite deal-breaker for ever owning one. If you Google "Camry seats suck" you'll find I'm not the only one that feels this way.
I feel like body type can give people vastly different results but all of that could likely be resolved if you buy one with lumbar adjustment. I personally had no beef with these seats and have also been in a rental camry for a bit too.
Then don't look alt the Mazda seats because they are even more terrible. Tiny seats with lack of foam in them make even short trips hard. They feel like a high chair in a car.
Sorry, but the Red material is SofTex and not real leather for if Toyota did use real leather you would find a higher price in the Window Sticker/ MSRP. Too many reviewers are claiming that the Red Seats are leather and that is very untrue as they are actually faux leather aka SofTex. Also, Toyota is manufacturing most all their vehicles to have a shorter life expectancy. If the car does not break down a few months or a year after the warranty period expires, then Toyota is losing money. Toyota and other automakers are using inferior parts and lesser quality but selling their vehicles for higher prices. Having 8 to 10 Air Bags does not equate to having better safety. Most of the so-called Safety Features are undependable, unreliable, and many are compromised as being semi-functional. When your safety equipment and sensors fail to protect you, hope those Air Bags will deploy, but even if they do that objects can puncture through them, and shrapnel can enter your body. Vehicles are made with more aluminum, plastic and glass which are inexpensive with a lot of expensive computer gadgets/garbage.
What the heck is with the headrest? In a reasonably upright seat position, the headrest forces your head down and forward so you can't even hold your head up straight. It's like Toyota's motto has become "why wait to mess up your neck in a car crash when you can mess your neck up every time you drive a new Camry!" If not for those horrible ergonomics, I'd have bought one.
Because the 24 will be the 1st year of a new 9th Gen and every 1st year of a new Gen always has flaws and kinks to be fixed and worked out. 2023 is last year of 8th Gen and won't have any worries whatsoever about mistakes/problems.
We ordered ours and they wouldn't even let us change the color......they gave specific trims you can order and that's it.....buying a car is difficult these days
@@gibby6904 I eneded up looking through the one's "to be built" and soon to be delivered to the dealer. I then chose the one closest to what I wanted. Happy with the Camry, but I didn't get what I wanted.
@@c103110a same thing here.....we picked ours up last Saturday but I didn't get exactly what I wanted.....different color....no sound system upgrade etc......at least we got a car......
My brother bought a brand new 2023 Toyota Camry. The 2 things that they are unimpressed with are that the door seals let the dirt right into the cab on gravel roads and their are no vents for the back seat or under the front seats, so their kids are going to freeze their toes in the back seat during the winter.
@Brent Harrington an xse? leather? moonroof? I see LE models for 26k but in my opinion a base camry should be 18-19k an xse fully loaded should be 28k!
@@patrik4446 You can get a 5 year old Camry with 70k for 18-19k... The old world is gone. While I agree with the sentiment, reality is inflation isn't close to being done. You'll be seeing new base model Corollas hitting 40k within 2 years.
@@brentharrington9235 I still can’t get over people that say car’s price are funny now. It’s not like 30 40 years ago, everything getting more advanced and modern. Some people just stuck in the past 🗿
@@tonynguyen9728 they are throwing in worthless features that many people don't want. Trash like lane assist, lane departure, radar assisted cruise control, H.U.D., rear camera, touch screens. Added things to drive up sales and maintenance cost. You might be okay being a rube, but not everyone has the consumer virus.
I’m surprised that I actually like the “cockpit red” interior enough to buy one. Now if the red was more pronounced in the door panels and the dash, I don’t think I would have done it. But it was my idea of a bit of splash. Mileage obviously varies for others.
I disagree, they’re more complicated but little evidence suggests them as unreliable. I’d argue the brand’s worst years were around 2005 to 2015 with oil consumption and big frame issues affecting various models.
@@Realistick I'm actually from Ukraine, so I don't work for any American or non-american car manufacturer. But the truth is that let's say Mazda or Honda has pretty much same reliability as Toyota, more or less 10%. But comparing some students to Toyota.... For example creepy multimedia etc etc.
Dude, how about learning about #capitalism ???? If you want MORE....then PAY MORE. Buy a Lexus ES 350. In the old days you could buy a Toyota Avalon if you persisting in whining about the Camry. Since Toyota practices #capitalism and the auto segment is shrinking, the Avalon went bye bye and you gotta step up to the ES 350. And it costs more! THAT is #capitalism !
@@CC19524 even if not, you could go to tirerack and build a package. they will even install at your home. total will be $1000, and you can sell your stock wheels for the same, as they are worth more than that.
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Great review, as always! I rented a Camry SE from Enterprise a few months ago for work. Even with a lot of miles it hit all the basics and was comfortable on a 700-mile trek to and from Ft Lauderdale. It’s clear why they sell a bajillion of em.
I just bought a SE recently and yea it is not outstanding but it satisfies all the basic needs and most importantly is dependable.
My dad had his Camry sedan for almost 20 years and I've had mine for more than a decade. Great reliable comfortable cars, but not a sports car by any means. Thanks for the terrific overview on the new Camrys and Happy New Year, Tyler!
Appreciate the support throughout 22, happy new years to you too
Toyota is raising their prices on the 24 models so get one for a reasonable price while you can!
After confirming your observations regarding the Camry lineup by testing them all back to back, I found myself in further agreement with you regarding the trim packages, as well as the best-use case for the Camry as a whole. In the end, I decided that buying a Camry for its Fun Factor is rather silly, and misses the point. Better to take advantage of the Camry's primary attributes: reliability, value, comfort, simplicity, fuel mileage. Don't prioritize aesthetics and surface-deep performance enhancements over the Camry's core strengths.
In other words, get the most affordable hybrid Camry, the Hybrid LE, the monster fuel-mileage model with the smoothest, quietest ride of the entire lineup. Six mpg better than the already great mileage of the other hybrid trims: 51 mpg city, 53 highway, 52 combined, vs 44 city, 47 highway, 46 combined. 52 mpg combined for a midside sedan that is satisfyingly fast, smooth, quiet, and roomy? That's insane. The Hybrid LE's narrow 16" wheels with the low rolling-resistance, tall-sidewall tires are noticeably quieter than, say, the wider 18's and 19's on the SE, XLE, and XSE, while also providing a plusher ride. I just wish they'd used a lightweight 16" alloy wheel instead of the steelies with hubcaps. The 17" alloys on the standard gas-powered LE would have been perfect for the Hybrid LE, only in a 16". I bought a set of better-looking 16", five-spoke alloys in the correct width, only to discover an immediate reduction in fuel mileage vs the stock wheels.
Here's the brerakdown...
Stock wheels: 60 mph or lower in Eco mode, I average low-to mid-60 mpg. Normal mode reduces this number by two mph, give or take. 65 mph equates to a consistent 55 mpg. 70 mph brings it down to 50-51 mpg. This is on winter-blend fuel, in 40-50-degree temps. Point being, higher speeds have a dramatic negative effect on fuel mileage with the hybrid; moreso than with the gas model. Most of the time, if I want that 60+ mpg, I have to be in the far right lane, and still I'm usually holding up traffic. If I stay with the flow of freeway traffic, I have to accept that my fuel mileage will drop below the EPA rating of 53 mpg on the freeway.
Aftermarket 16" alloys: Everything drops by three to five mpg. Tough call there, stylish wheels, or as-advertized (or even better) fuel mileage?
I haven't specifically tested the city mileage. All my testing has been on long freeway trips.
Other notes...
Yes, the infortainment system is very dated. It works perfectly fine, but it certainly isn't pretty. It looks like an old Windows 7 program. My rationalization there is, well, so what? No matter what I buy now, in a few years it's going to be dated. Since I plan on keeping this car for fifteen-plus years, there is no way to avoid having a dated interior, sooner or later. At least it's user-friendly and glitch-free. Physical knobs and switches for everything. Everything is properly illuminated. No menu surfing. No touch-capacitive garbage. I don't ask much of it, but it does everything it should, without hiccups. Typical Toyota tech. Set it and forget it. It won't thrill your teenage daughter and her Instagram-addled friends, but it also won't let you down.
The interior seems extremely well put together, with zero squeaks or rattles. It helps that I didn't opt for a moonroof, which is often the prime culptrit for squeaks, rattles, and other issues. Ditching the sunroof also makes for less wind noise, so it's another win. Not much piano black, either, and it's not in high-use areas. Also, it isn't straight black plastic. Instead, it has an unusual, cool-looking sparkly metal flake, adding a welcome touch of color. As piano black goes, it's perfectly acceptable.
While I find the seats very comfortable, and really enjoy the fact that they include adjustable lumbar even on the base model, I do wish the heating element in the seats covered a larger area. I would like them to be hotter, as well. They do the job, but more of both would be welcome. As it is, only the lower back and butt receive any heat.
Ditto, the heated steering wheel. The heated portion works great, but it only covers the sides of the wheel. The top and bottom halves are unheated, and the top of the wheel is where I normally rest my hand. At least the leather cover is very high quality. Tight fit, luxurious feel. Still, come on, Toyota. Do the entire steering wheel.
The brakes work like normal brakes, for the most part. I rarely notice them, other than sometimes I think they're a little slow to react in the first part of the pedal travel. They're fine, no problem, but if you're used to sportier brakes, these take some getting used to.
The hybrid powertrain is just stupidly good. It's so much punchier than the gas version, while also being significantly quieter. Perhaps this Hybrid LE isn't luxury-car quiet, but it's not far off, either. It's very quiet, and with those tall sidewall tires, the ride is wonderfully plush. The vast majority of the time, you aren't even aware that you're running a hybrid. It's that smooth and seamless.
Surprisingly, there isn't all that much body roll. The SE and XSE have less body roll, as well as a firmer ride, but they aren't sporty enough to make for a worthwhile tradeoff. The "comfort" models already handle more than well enough, and adding that extra bit of handling prowess with the SE and XSE still doesn't mask the car's weight. It's agile for what it is, but you can never get away from the fact that it's a large, comfortable, midsize sedan, a family hauler. Even in XSE trim, it's no M5, so why bother? The base model gives up 10-15% of sporty handling in exchange for an equal or greater improvement in ride quality, quietness, and overall smoothness.
What would be a perfect Camry? Well, sure, a TRD with a good 6-speed manual and a proper LSD would be tough to pass up. It wouldn't cost much, either, since the TRD is fairly stripped down. I definitely would have bought one. Give it the updated infotainment found in every other 2023 Toyota, and all the bases would be covered. On the flipside, simply give the Hybrid LE that same better infotainment along with aero-friendly alloy wheels and more heating arera for the seats and steering wheel, and that's the perfect daily driver.
Lacking those two extremes, I think the Hybrid LE is the best choice in the Toyota lineup. Prioritize quality, value, and real-word common sense over vanity, and that Hybrid LE is probably the best overall car available today. Just don't pay over msrp for one, and you can't go wrong.
The white version looks best with the blackout package. I own a 2022 Camry SE Nightshade AWD and I love it. The 4 cyl mated with the 8 spd automatic in sport mode is actually pretty dam fast, 6.5 seconds 0-60mph, for size of engine. The only thing I HATE is that there is no memory for seat adjustment. After seeing the upgrades for 2023 I'm happy I got the 2022.
If you want the TRD, get a fully loaded XSE and TRD badging and forego the TRD. Waste of money.
Just got one almost 2 weeks ago. Absolutely love it! Already driven 200 miles and not even at a half tank yet! The radar cruise control is awesome
I love my Camry. 100% recommend
The two trims that are really nice are the XLE and XSE . The Camry TRD is Nothing but an SE with a V6 with a convenience package that you're not able to get with homelink.. There is hardly anything on it that is upgraded.. You're better off to get a V6 on the top two trims if you want more power..
Credit where credit’s due, the trd has a different suspension setup, aero, and is a cheap way to get the v6. It’s still silly and really needs an LSD but it’s not a terrible deal.
For anybody wondering I bought my le awd in 2020 new. The window sticker said 34 highway and sometimes I get 39 or higher. Depending on where I am at. But overall I average 35. I also found out for rear vents you need to have the audio or convince package.
I like my '23 XLE (Reservoir Blue), but wish I had the JBL system.
I have been a toyota owner for years, after a deer totaled my 2009 corolla with 250k miles I needed a replacement commuter car, I picked up a 2022 Camry hybrid nightshade in white, I'm not driving through twisty canyon roads so I don't need razor sharp steering and handling, what I need after a hard days work is a smooth quiet ride home, this car delivers and to that 40 plus mpg win win win, if the weather is rough I take my 2007 FJ Cruiser with 137k miles which by the way is a break in for this beast
Love the detailed car content without the fluff!
I'm having a hard time deciding between this and a RAV4. Don't necessarily need another SUV in the family since we have one considering the Camry can be had with AWD.
I test drove both 3 months ago and picked the Camry because it is noticeably more refined and more quiet on highways.
Get Toyota’s naturally aspirated 4 cylinder while you can. They may discontinue this in the redesigned 2024’s.
They’re going to discontinue the v6 engines but I believe the 4 cylinder engines will still be produced.
You make a GREAT review with good bias where it is needed. Really hope to see you spike in subs as your reviews are really good compared to others.
One of the small issues in the overall trim choice may be the fact you can't lower the back seats anymore in the upper trim level to enlarge boot space (which is only about average) This apart, strange how this car doesn't sell at all in Western Europe...Over here, you can literally count the number you see in a month on one hand. Never understood it...The normal sedan is completely "out" over here. That is, for now...
The white Camry is the type of car that I want to get as my 1st car!
Always enjoy the detailed reviews. To be honest I am surprised they are still offering the V6.
Me too, it will definitely be gone here soon, I’m just curious if they will even bother throwing the 2.4 turbo in it or just keep it 2.5 and hybrid.
The next generation Toyota Camry will replace the V6 engine with a 2.4 turbo.
I have a 2018 se hybrid. Purchased with 16k miles. Has 60k now. No issues, been a great car. When it time for a new car will definitely be considering another Camry or toyota suv hybrid.
Highly recommend this generation of camry's to my friends. Love the design. I actually switched out my tail lights to the xse model tail lights. That is the only change i have done to the car. Everything else is stock. Car still looks and drives great. Spend $25 on gas weekly.
Most likely 2023 with be the last model year of this generation Camry its due for a redesign typically Toyota redesigns their models every 6 years and with the Camry still being popular I wouldn’t see why they wouldn’t
I wish these were more affordable.
Although I am going to pick up my XSE 4-Cylinder (38.5k out the door with electronics warranty) it feels a bit expensive. I will keep it running for at least 300,000 miles.
One BIG thing you missed -- 2023 also introduced a new color for all models -- Reservoir Blue -- which is the color we selected for our factory-ordered 2023 Camry XLE AWD model!!! We couldn't get a Hybrid (they don't have AWD options either); there's a 6-month waiting list. We are replacing our 2020 Honda Accord Touring 2.0T sedan, coming off lease in May. Looking forward to finally returning to Toyota (hubby is 6'3" and couldn't fit in older Camrys, and can no longer fit in redesigned Accord).
I have a 2020 carry and one day decided to check out the "sport mode" and end up getting a speeding ticket, ouch!
Four cylinder or v6?
Battling myself right now, I have a 2023 civic reserved, but it's not going to be in until June, and a Camry is available tomorrow for around the same price. Camry has a real 8 speed auto, and bigger I4 with more power, to the Civic's CVT and 150 hp 2.0.
See the Carsthatlast videos for older vehicles that are generally more reliable. I have seen reviews choosing the Honda Civic over the Corolla or Camry for how it drives, and the 2023 Prius production has already been pre-ordered. Every March I go to the public library to read the April car issue of Consumer Reports magazine, over 300 thousand subscribers submit their annual survey for vehicle repairs. We live about 20 miles from where Camrys are assembled in Kentucky, but have joined the SUV fad for more visibility and easier to get in and out of at 63 years old. We have a RAV4 with over 200 thousand miles that still drives well with few repairs so far, and we own 3 Mazda CX-5s, a 2013, 2015 and 2018. One spark plug coil failed at 105 thousand miles for the 2013, and it needed a new automatic transmission shifter earlier, partly covered by the dealer and redesigned for 2014. My advice is to avoid JD Power paid for ratings, focus more on independents for vehicle advice, and test drive your top choices at least 3 times over several weeks, including at least one that has you going 75 mph for 2 hours to test seat comfort. The Mazda seats feel too stiff at first, but are comfortable for a long trip. They also steer very well and have good speakers for the price, both the base model and the upper Bose speakers. Our 3 CX-5s are one the top trim with leather, and 2 the mid-level trim with fake leather. Mazdas are nice because they include heated front seats and an optional sunroof and all wheel drive for the mid level model, for some years. If you can live with smaller and uglier, the CX-30 is a good price. I also recommend seeing what CarMax has available used, they charge a reasonable price to put a vehicle on a truck from 300 miles away, maybe from an area south with less road salt, so you can test drive it and maybe buy it locally. The dealers seem to have a lower used price, until you find out their out the door price has a lot of scummy add ons. I bought my Mazda CX-5 used with 10 thousand miles from a CarMax, and it had a window sticker showing the oil was changed at 5 thousand miles. Even if fake they come with synthetic oil, and I avoided the risk of some dumbass previous owner not changing the oil for 20 thousand miles or more.
Great review.
Toyota really knows how to keep themselves steps ahead of Honda. Good to see car manufacturers stick with sedans. Great review, Happy New Year.
Lol did you even see the 2023 Honda accord
@@ThisWasEpicness I have, and I’ve had 2 Hondas and 0 Toyotas as of yet. I prefer the Accord, but its lacking with 2 power plants (1.5T and 2.0 hybrid) where as the Camry has the normally aspirated 2.5, 2.5 hybrid and still offer a 3.5V6. If Honda offered AWD, I would lean towards the Accord. You have to bump up to the Acura TLX with either a 2.0T or 3.0T to get the AWD from Honda.
And how are they steps ahead of Honda? Just curious.
The best one to buy by far…as all the problems have been solved with that gen👍unless you want the latest greatest car that usually has issues
100% TRUTH. The 1st year of this 8 Gen which was 2018 had all the glitches and problems and we're all fixed. By now, 2023, this Camry should last 200-300k miles without a blink of an eye if maintained right.
Tyler like your reviews but I have a different question I had noticed you were getting buff are you still working out? you were looking awesome.
I got a 23 se camry base 2.5 motor is good for me gas is OK on it... it was a dealer service car just the toyota dealer owned it. I got it for. 27.900 with the miles at. 6 000. Now got 15.000. All good so far
I want an xse so bad but they’re so expensive 😭
i am driving this one 23 for a month on rent and figured out that the engine has no power and start screaming & yelling within 1 second after starting ! i had honda accord 2000 & it pickup like an 🚀
avalon and camry cost the same. yet avalon is bigger and comes standard with the v6!
My 2015 Camry started having major problems around 120k miles
Could you talk about the Toyota crown please!
Can’t wait for the new one. Tho I really loved and always will love this gen!
I'm getting a beautiful 41.7 mpg on my trips across Ohio in a 2015 Camry
I’m not 1 bit stoked on the small turbo/CVT Hondas!!
I’ve owned 5 Hondas but just bought my 1st Toyota yesterday- a Camry I-4 SE brand new (cheaper than used somehow) cuz it’s likely the last ice/regular trans I’ll ever be able to buy esp in CA!! Over 200 HP out of a 4 pot is great- more HP than my older V6 Lexus & Honda!!
I got $28,300 OTD so methinks I did well!! 😎🤙
I just bought a used 2018 and it looks so similar.
I’d go buy one today if paired with a manual!
Cleanest lowkey sponsor drop I’ve ever heard lmao
Once I'm done paying my Corolla off. Looking to get a new Camry Hybrid XLE and put the XSE body kit on it.
The tech with the XLE is hard to pass on, but the look of it is meh, while the XSE looks nice, just doesn't have all the tech
Don’t get me wrong both Toyota and Honda are good car companies, also they are KNOWN for their reliability and longevity 👍
I bought the ice edge Se and the best decision I made
I have the ice edge too. Did you add any upgrades to your
I got a 2023 camry se upgraded, to all people who have a 2023 se, does yours make noise when starting after being parked for hours? Mine does some noise for like 10-15 seconds then stops, and doesnt do it when hot. Called toyota, the mechanic says he has a 22 and it does the same... I dunno if hes full of s* or if its normal.... thanks!!
LE or SE for a comfortable daily driver?
I rather by a new one instead of used
How much months for booking ?
I heard that Toyota is going to roll out the GR Camry on April 1st.
April fools.
The new Accord refresh should make you reconsider Camry
So why does the LE hybrid get noticeably better mileage than the SE and XLE hybrids?
tires and wheel size (they're thinner)
I can’t wait to have my se camry toyota soon🥺
Can you compare camry wth accord? Thx
Do they all have spare tires or donuts? Are they all have the same ground clearance?
All Camry’s have spare tires (donut, only dedicated off-road trims, trucks, large suvs have a full-size spare anymore to my knowledge) I believe the ground clearance is all the same but google could tell you the number!
What is cost of camry Le 2023 louisiana
I don't know if the upgraded leather seats are any better but the base fabric seats are terrible. I received one as a rental with about 5,000 miles on it and even though there's a lot to like about the car the god-awful seats are a definite deal-breaker for ever owning one. If you Google "Camry seats suck" you'll find I'm not the only one that feels this way.
I feel like body type can give people vastly different results but all of that could likely be resolved if you buy one with lumbar adjustment. I personally had no beef with these seats and have also been in a rental camry for a bit too.
Then don't look alt the Mazda seats because they are even more terrible. Tiny seats with lack of foam in them make even short trips hard. They feel like a high chair in a car.
In Japan, the Toyota Camry is used in police vehicles.
23's are EXPENSIVE
I get a WRX it a lot quicker than most new Camry cars
Sorry, but the Red material is SofTex and not real leather for if Toyota did use real leather you would find a higher price in the Window Sticker/ MSRP. Too many reviewers are claiming that the Red Seats are leather and that is very untrue as they are actually faux leather aka SofTex. Also, Toyota is manufacturing most all their vehicles to have a shorter life expectancy. If the car does not break down a few months or a year after the warranty period expires, then Toyota is losing money. Toyota and other automakers are using inferior parts and lesser quality but selling their vehicles for higher prices. Having 8 to 10 Air Bags does not equate to having better safety. Most of the so-called Safety Features are undependable, unreliable, and many are compromised as being semi-functional. When your safety equipment and sensors fail to protect you, hope those Air Bags will deploy, but even if they do that objects can puncture through them, and shrapnel can enter your body. Vehicles are made with more aluminum, plastic and glass which are inexpensive with a lot of expensive computer gadgets/garbage.
I mean if Toyota says on the XSE and XLE that it is leather, I’m not going to go against their word. So give me a source and I’ll add a correction
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No V6 in AWD?! Why Toyota?
Five reasons to go work?
I wish Camry has a wagon version
I think the Camry Cross is still in its prototype phase so it's still going to be a while til it goes on sale
Ewwww no
For anyone that might be interested the interior red color official name from Toyota is hooker red
What the heck is with the headrest? In a reasonably upright seat position, the headrest forces your head down and forward so you can't even hold your head up straight. It's like Toyota's motto has become "why wait to mess up your neck in a car crash when you can mess your neck up every time you drive a new Camry!"
If not for those horrible ergonomics, I'd have bought one.
I had my camry se for 2 years and not once did I ever notice the “ergonomics” 😂😂
@@chapter7149 old camry's don't have this problem
@@Brandon-qp7gq I have the 2018. newest model. Maybe you need to see a chiropractor 😂😂
I think that the new Honda Accord will hit hard the sale numbers for the Camry in 2023/2024. Thanks for the video 😀
It has a shot but the Camry will also be redesigned here soon so its window is small!
@@Realistick when comes the new one, 2024?
@@alengreen589 That's the speculation, not confirmed yet to my knowledge, I'd say 2025 model year at the absolute latest.
@@Realistick OK thanks.
I doubt it after looking at the pricing of the new Accord
There will be a totally new Camry for the 2024 edition !! So why buy a 2023 version that will be obsolete in a few months ?
They have everything sorted out on that gen. The beginning of the next gen always has their problems
We don't know yet when the new generation will be out but it is at least one year from the launch of the 2023 model, not a few months.
Because the 24 will be the 1st year of a new 9th Gen and every 1st year of a new Gen always has flaws and kinks to be fixed and worked out. 2023 is last year of 8th Gen and won't have any worries whatsoever about mistakes/problems.
I wouldn't call this engine proven. How can it be proven already? Its a relatively new unit with a lot of small plastic parts. Only time will tell
All the dealers near me are gouging the customer by adding up to $5000 above list
It's unfortunate, it really forces people to travel but hopefully those tactics hurt those dealers in the long run.
Same here in the east, 5k over sticker price smh
@@Frosty4447 NJ here
They got me for $40,000.00 2023 xse 4 cylinder out of the door. I didn't have much of a choice. All the dealerships were in PIMP MODE.
Just got an AWD LE for $26,500. Not a POWER DEAL, but below MSRP. (Presidents day sale).
I tried to custom order my 2023 Camry at the dealer and was nicely told to "go pound sand."
We ordered ours and they wouldn't even let us change the color......they gave specific trims you can order and that's it.....buying a car is difficult these days
@@gibby6904 I eneded up looking through the one's "to be built" and soon to be delivered to the dealer. I then chose the one closest to what I wanted. Happy with the Camry, but I didn't get what I wanted.
@@c103110a same thing here.....we picked ours up last Saturday but I didn't get exactly what I wanted.....different color....no sound system upgrade etc......at least we got a car......
Lol.. that made me laugh !
Nothing different than 2018 same shape just he radio is different
My brother bought a brand new 2023 Toyota Camry. The 2 things that they are unimpressed with are that the door seals let the dirt right into the cab on gravel roads and their are no vents for the back seat or under the front seats, so their kids are going to freeze their toes in the back seat during the winter.
DUDE - you reply to EVERY SINGLE CAMRY Review with the SAME comment. Who CARES
$40k I just can't see paying for a camry!!
just got mine for $26,500
@Brent Harrington an xse? leather? moonroof?
I see LE models for 26k but in my opinion a base camry should be 18-19k
an xse fully loaded should be 28k!
@@patrik4446 You can get a 5 year old Camry with 70k for 18-19k...
The old world is gone. While I agree with the sentiment, reality is inflation isn't close to being done. You'll be seeing new base model Corollas hitting 40k within 2 years.
@@brentharrington9235 I still can’t get over people that say car’s price are funny now. It’s not like 30 40 years ago, everything getting more advanced and modern. Some people just stuck in the past 🗿
@@tonynguyen9728 they are throwing in worthless features that many people don't want.
Trash like lane assist, lane departure, radar assisted cruise control, H.U.D., rear camera, touch screens. Added things to drive up sales and maintenance cost.
You might be okay being a rube, but not everyone has the consumer virus.
Those red leather seats are atrocious, idk what they were thinking
I’m surprised that I actually like the “cockpit red” interior enough to buy one. Now if the red was more pronounced in the door panels and the dash, I don’t think I would have done it. But it was my idea of a bit of splash. Mileage obviously varies for others.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
Oh stop
Lol
Bought it! I dig.
Well, Toyota today isnt so reliable, as American consumer may think, but it is old tech. It is Nokia 6300 in smartphone world. Nice, but nah.
I disagree, they’re more complicated but little evidence suggests them as unreliable. I’d argue the brand’s worst years were around 2005 to 2015 with oil consumption and big frame issues affecting various models.
They are still very reliable. Do you work for Chevy?
@@Realistick I'm actually from Ukraine, so I don't work for any American or non-american car manufacturer.
But the truth is that let's say Mazda or Honda has pretty much same reliability as Toyota, more or less 10%.
But comparing some students to Toyota.... For example creepy multimedia etc etc.
@@bohdan199xMazda, maybe on some models. Honda has had a lot more struggles, maybe I'll make a video on that sometime.
the less complicated the less issues to deal with the long term, and hence the more reliable
8 seconds is so slow in 2023
yes, but 0-60 acceleration is not what most people buying Camry look for. Nevertheless, I hope it will improve in the next generation.
I love gas car and will never never buy a EV
I love Camrys but won't buy one with a front end that ugly.
Dude, how about learning about #capitalism ???? If you want MORE....then PAY MORE. Buy a Lexus ES 350. In the old days you could buy a Toyota Avalon if you persisting in whining about the Camry. Since Toyota practices #capitalism and the auto segment is shrinking, the Avalon went bye bye and you gotta step up to the ES 350. And it costs more! THAT is #capitalism !
Toyotas too overpriced, has to do with greedy Dealers … I will pass.
Hate the low profile tires on SE/XSE. Easy pass can’t stand them. Shame on Toyota for using them
you can easily swap to 16” wheels.
At a cost close to $2000 for new wheels and tires?
@@CC19524 I bet you the dealer would do it for you for free.
@@CC19524 even if not, you could go to tirerack and build a package. they will even install at your home. total will be $1000, and you can sell your stock wheels for the same, as they are worth more than that.
Ok you don’t like them. So that makes it shame on Toyota? Seems a bit much. If you don’t like them go with a different trim package.
Getting a little stale .
3 reasons not to buy it
Slow, boring and overpriced 😒
Uber Car
Face not appealing
Why buy a new outdated model???????????????????????????
It’s typically the best time to buy a model if reliability is your biggest concern as they have addressed most issues.
@@Realistickmy exact thoughts also! Buying the beginning of the next gen car always has their issues
because you can avoid most issues that first model years of the generation have.
because they may put a more unreliable engine in the next model.
People don't buy Camry for cutting edge tech and performance. Its a car you buy and drive for 10 years, then give to your kid to drive for 10 years.