Tenpai is basically just loading up 25+ handtraps, 8 of which are essentially turnskips. The players that want to not just play a cheese deck that is Tenpai just shifted more towards SE/Diabellstar lore pile than Yubel since it just bricks less (it's just a better deck).
I love seeing Maxx c Ash Called by Crossout Impermanence And now the 2 new staples cards in every deck. So much diversity. Cause none of those cards are the issue. Except crossout. You're only allowed at one.
@@gabrielgois8724 at least there is greater variety in the handtraps/non engine being played and cool decks like fs muskets that arent playing handtraps really but good luck playing that shit into 6 maxx c tenpai 💀.
@@hermitxIII It’s true in practice too, because you need to actually open the searcher as well, but it doesn’t really show when you go from 15 starters to 12, it has to drop A LOT to make a difference.
Here comes the paper copium where they go "there's no way there will be 3 legal maxx-c's" lmao Whether it's josh, dkayed, mbt, doesn't matter...the copium is hitting levels we've never seen before.
@@deltaforce3593 All things considered, these monsters are a lot better than Maxx C (you need six of them to do what Maxx C does half the time)… but I still don’t like them.
Memento has lines that can play around Handtraps, end on multiple diverse disruptions and have pretty much 18 Starters. Memento as a Deck should never be slept on because they have a surprising number of advantages to them
@@apocalipsenearby Isn't that just how most Decks play nowadays? It's either you draw into ways to extend through or dodge Handtraps or you end your turn
@@zerochill4096 ye, that's why this format sucks. Memento and yubel kinda are just weaker snake eyes, who are suffering from the same problem.having super strong one card lines that are super telegraphed and don't really have outplay mechanic, unlike decks like tearsvor branded
@@apocalipsenearby Memento at least ends up on an interesting board, but honestly agreed. A lot of it has to do with certain generic Extra Deck cards plaguing the game and how every Deck can use them but certain Decks do so better than other Decks. I mean yeah lingering Handtraps are an absolute pain and they always will be, but now more than ever people really underestimate how dumb the generic/semi-generic Extra Deck cards have gone. Why did they make more Link-1s with powerful effects that give you access to an absurd engine? Why are cards like I:P and Apollousa allowed to continue to exist? Hitting Snake-Eye isn't good enough because it's a symptom of a larger problem of Decks being able to access generic Extra Deck stuff that dwarfs the power of other Decks in general
@@zerochill4096 I mean OCG aside, that’s why so many liked the TCG ban list that hit Baronne and Barroload. It didn’t do anything to Snake Eyes, but it was starting to deal with a problem that was making the game worse, strong, easily accessible extra deck bosses, and a lot of top players are hopping that means cards like Appo go along with it.
I have a question that I want to ask. I am planning on trying out something absolutely crazy. A deck of 40 non engine cards and 20 one card starters. It sounds crazy and it most likely will not work as intended but I want to believe it will work. More often than not I would open a hand full of hand traps, anti hand trap cards, and board breakers. My side deck would literally be only extenders. I could take out the non engine that doesn’t work and add in extenders to help with the deck. What deck am I doing this with? @Ignister Edit I forgot to actually ask my question. Do you think it is worth giving it a try? In Master Duel I will need and I am not joking 1230 UR crafting material and 600 SR crafting material. It will be the most expensive deck I will ever build.
Ice barrier winning proves everything is possible. I am so happy i chose to buy the structure decks when the ib support was announced some year ish ago. To see it bloom from a meme into this is so nice. Fully deserved my boiz And yes, i can see its mostly atlantean. But old ice barrier also used atlantean
I can say the reason tenpai is doing well cause of those other two Getting hit and tenpai being hit so lightly Sangen and Paidra to one is what I must sacrifice
disagree on flamberge ban. This show it has to be Original sinful spoil. As it is what allows the azamina combo to get to snake eyes while having an omni negate up + moon setup before searching for snake eye
I’m not sure I agree, because they still want to bridge into Snake-Eye for the purpose of adding Flamberge to the endboard. OSS has so little payoff in Azamina/Snake Eye if it’s just to grab Ash & Poplar and not Flamberge. I’m fine with both getting banned though. It feels to me like the same difference between banning Kashtira Ariseheart vs the Kash Field spell or Birth.
@@alchemistarcher02 there is a 1 card combo that uses the new sinful spoil card to turbo out an omni negate while sending oss for cost and adding ash. While I agree it will not stop the deck to ban oss, it will remove wanted, diabelle and the new azamina spells as starters and cards the deck can play. Thats way bigger than people think
I feel like you only play fuwaross in the side right? It's useless going first and most decks want to go first. I think a lot of decks would prefer to not have to run the bricks.
I'm running it. It's easy to get out now. Neptayss send Body guards, SS Pike, grab Abyssrhine, Activate Abyssrhine. People are just lacking imagination and scared of hand traps. Konami needs to get rid of hand traps it's ruining the game.
They’d need to ban both Flamberge & Poplar because Flamberge is a crazy card & whatever consistentcy hits u do to SE won’t matter when Infernal Flame Banshee is a card.
Ban Flamberge and limit Diabellstar. After that would be limiting Fiendsmith Engraver and giving an errata to Beatrice. Make it so her effect can only be used if she was summoned using her alternative summoning requirement. That way Burning Abyss gets a buff and Fiendsmith gets nerfed. Poplar can go to one as well. Unban Mathmech Circular and Linkuriboh. Unban Isolde and put her to one. This will create many more decks for players to build while breathing new life into older archetypes such as Infernoble and different Cyberse decks. Striker Dragon to 3. Called By the Grave to 2. More non engine means more hand traps being used. To help alleviate the problem adding in more counter play is needed for less resilient decks to play.
This is the problem with overpowered decks like snake eyes and tear. Eventually they will limit every card name to one or ban it all together making a theme or art style you like just a bunch of one ofs
Ice Barrier one of the work decks of all time just to let you know whatever difficulty you’re going through in life, you can surpass it with hard work and dedication
I’ve been predicting the poplar ban since the deck came out on master duel. I think that’s the best hit, flameberge is another good one but that will really fuck the deck.
If you are talking about yubel, there's only one semi-brick (terror) that can still be used to contact fuse. +if you miss timing with og yubel, well that's a skill issue Only reason SE>>yubel is because SE has a ton of ectenders that get ypu the same board while yubel changes plan based on what you have in hand
OCG giving their decks a light novel title for a name is on-brand for Japan. TCG giving their decks the most vague names ever and also pretending like a deck can completely change its core but still be the same deck because they just call it the same thing as a previous similar deck is on-brand for America.
Jesus.... The last ice barrier structure deck was so disappointing that I never ever want to have something with ice barrier. One of the worst structure decks out there. My most hated deck.
@AndrianaboN how will it be t0 with 1 diabellstar, 1 poplar, ash, wanted???? It pretty much gets the tear treatment. The fiendsmith are a problem in itself since it helps get ash to grave to be revived with princess. Beatrice is getting axed making that combo irrelevant.
@@gravemind76 I was a bit exagerating tbf u said witch and poplar i didnt know u included ocg hit. Im juste tired of the deck and want poplar to go as its still by far the best deck in ocg with all the consistency hit the only close there is tenpai
Looking forward to fuwarose + purulia format to arrive in TCG too. Maybe even 1 more mulcharmy that hits grave / banish. Going second would be much better before, aside tenpai.
yeah yeah great cover up of your working time maschine joshua schmidt plus if that is even your real name, to pretend you bought for a retro format. i will keep an eye on who wins the next euro lotto
Fiendsmith should've only benefited pure fiend type decks if they were going to give snake eyes azanima now its just straight over kill It'd beyond clear that they want snake eyes to be the strongest deck ever yubel can't even play at full power at world's because of dumbass reasons Idc about it's such a sad time
I don't understand what people want. We were getting tired of archetypes. Then that kitchen sink deck that popped up in 2022 was cool as hell, but it was being slandered because it was just engines. One of the two decks im playing this format is Horus Adventure Fiendsmith. Just a deck of 3 engines. And im prolly gonna get slandered for that 😂
So why must ocg get that format and we mustn’t get it stop crying and play shifter , I’m sick of Konami banning every deck they make that’s even good , then every month is a set with new cards so your deck gets banned or power crept
Today I discovered “Runick Paleozoic snake-eye fiendmith adventure Horus mermail Atlantean ashizu tear kashtira”
Its not a runick deck???
@@Rippi__ oooh shit, ur right we could probably splash in runick
@@katzuma7641after you do that you should add some Runick cards in too
😂@@Rippi__
@katzuma7641 Does the deck have room for 3 ghostrick shot and a mansion. We can insulate our play with UDF without using our normal summon that way
Tenpai is basically just loading up 25+ handtraps, 8 of which are essentially turnskips.
The players that want to not just play a cheese deck that is Tenpai just shifted more towards SE/Diabellstar lore pile than Yubel since it just bricks less (it's just a better deck).
People surprisingly don’t realize that Blue Eyes now bricks far less than Yubel because it can work with only one Blue eyes white dragon.
I like cheddar 🤓
Yubel puts up scarier end boards, but yeah, it’s a lot more bricky and a lot worse into hand traps.
I love seeing
Maxx c
Ash
Called by
Crossout
Impermanence
And now the 2 new staples cards in every deck. So much diversity. Cause none of those cards are the issue.
Except crossout. You're only allowed at one.
Maxi and mulchummy being the issue...
Are we ignoring the 15+ handtraps requirement in order to play current TCG format or is your coment just "OCG bad"?
@@gabrielgois8724 at least there is greater variety in the handtraps/non engine being played and cool decks like fs muskets that arent playing handtraps really but good luck playing that shit into 6 maxx c tenpai 💀.
MFW good cards
ok, hit all of those cards and suddenly turn 1 player wins 80% of the time
Today I discovered runick mermail atlantean
Ik this is a joke but Ice Barrier runick is actually surprisingly good😂
If only Hugin was water...
Shoutout to Kycoo, the ghost destroyer himself, in 7th place playing Mikanko.
Being able to play with a team that play’s the same deck thrice (and on top of that it being Tenpai) is so fucked up
Shout out to the orre pokemon center music
I want more VGC style pokemon spin offs 😢
Water vs fire choose your side 😤
Water
Fire
@@kotado6414🌊 💦 💧 🐟 🦈
Fiend
Heart.
Consistency hits don't do anything if you can just search everything you need!
It hurts recursion, and makes it less likely to open with a hand that can play though handtraps(in theroy).
@@hermitxIII
It’s true in practice too, because you need to actually open the searcher as well, but it doesn’t really show when you go from 15 starters to 12, it has to drop A LOT to make a difference.
@@hermitxIII in practice the ocg proved that it doesnt work
I love a format where they just have 9 copies of maxxc :)
I think Drolling yourself is a valid play nowadays
And hopefully we'll have another mulchummy that covers the graveyard and banishment so it'll be 12 maxx cs
Here comes the paper copium where they go "there's no way there will be 3 legal maxx-c's" lmao Whether it's josh, dkayed, mbt, doesn't matter...the copium is hitting levels we've never seen before.
The multchummy monsters are meant for the tcg since maxx c is banned for them.
@@deltaforce3593
All things considered, these monsters are a lot better than Maxx C (you need six of them to do what Maxx C does half the time)… but I still don’t like them.
Me, who bought the new ice barrier cards: so you're telling me there's a chance
Memento has lines that can play around Handtraps, end on multiple diverse disruptions and have pretty much 18 Starters. Memento as a Deck should never be slept on because they have a surprising number of advantages to them
Lots of starters but they are extremely telegraphed, basically if they don't draw quickspells they are super predictable
@@apocalipsenearby
Isn't that just how most Decks play nowadays? It's either you draw into ways to extend through or dodge Handtraps or you end your turn
@@zerochill4096 ye, that's why this format sucks. Memento and yubel kinda are just weaker snake eyes, who are suffering from the same problem.having super strong one card lines that are super telegraphed and don't really have outplay mechanic, unlike decks like tearsvor branded
@@apocalipsenearby
Memento at least ends up on an interesting board, but honestly agreed. A lot of it has to do with certain generic Extra Deck cards plaguing the game and how every Deck can use them but certain Decks do so better than other Decks. I mean yeah lingering Handtraps are an absolute pain and they always will be, but now more than ever people really underestimate how dumb the generic/semi-generic Extra Deck cards have gone. Why did they make more Link-1s with powerful effects that give you access to an absurd engine? Why are cards like I:P and Apollousa allowed to continue to exist? Hitting Snake-Eye isn't good enough because it's a symptom of a larger problem of Decks being able to access generic Extra Deck stuff that dwarfs the power of other Decks in general
@@zerochill4096
I mean OCG aside, that’s why so many liked the TCG ban list that hit Baronne and Barroload. It didn’t do anything to Snake Eyes, but it was starting to deal with a problem that was making the game worse, strong, easily accessible extra deck bosses, and a lot of top players are hopping that means cards like Appo go along with it.
Josh cannot predict the future. But he can call someone at Konami and ask to create a new support or deck.
Its really hard to be optimistic about the format in general when there's little to no change
Hard believe that when there changes.
I wonder if we'll be watching Shire's deck profile for 1st place in a few months
This long names remember the ABC decks too. ABC Therion Adventurer PUNK Revolution
Today I learned about runick- yubel
12:23 "that's crazy" ahaha...
The year of water confirmed?
Yep. I can't wait to get my hands on these new mermails. Got some tricks up my sleeves.
I have a question that I want to ask.
I am planning on trying out something absolutely crazy.
A deck of 40 non engine cards and 20 one card starters.
It sounds crazy and it most likely will not work as intended but I want to believe it will work.
More often than not I would open a hand full of hand traps, anti hand trap cards, and board breakers.
My side deck would literally be only extenders.
I could take out the non engine that doesn’t work and add in extenders to help with the deck.
What deck am I doing this with?
@Ignister
Edit I forgot to actually ask my question.
Do you think it is worth giving it a try?
In Master Duel I will need and I am not joking 1230 UR crafting material and 600 SR crafting material.
It will be the most expensive deck I will ever build.
dlink best deck
Ice barrier winning proves everything is possible. I am so happy i chose to buy the structure decks when the ib support was announced some year ish ago. To see it bloom from a meme into this is so nice. Fully deserved my boiz
And yes, i can see its mostly atlantean. But old ice barrier also used atlantean
I can't wait to reinforce my current build with it
Wait, Ice Barrier finally got a top someone call Slaydra
Flamberge is going to get banned. It was not one of the highlighted cards from each set on the megatins
Ice barrier atlantean?? Sign me up
I have tried it and it doesnt seem to be better than regular merlanteans? I guess its because of the lack of toad?
@@b4sh936 It's better to decide after good player's judgment, not a random youtube comment
@@gabrielgois8724 i never said it was optimal😂 just said im interested
@@b4sh936well toad is banned in OCG
Not gonna lie folks, ill be playing Pokemon for a while till Konami adresses the Fire problem and im looking at you, Flamberge Dragon
Today I discovered Azamina Sinful Spoils Snake Eye Fire King Runick
Card design is so fucked up that I can see this working
I can say the reason tenpai is doing well cause of those other two
Getting hit and tenpai being hit so lightly Sangen and Paidra to one is what I must sacrifice
Just give me block dragon back.
So.. Flamberge Ban, with Wanted, Poplar, Oak and Original to one?
disagree on flamberge ban. This show it has to be Original sinful spoil. As it is what allows the azamina combo to get to snake eyes while having an omni negate up + moon setup before searching for snake eye
Agreed, banning OSS would disconnect snake-eyes from other archetypes like FK and azamina
I’m not sure I agree, because they still want to bridge into Snake-Eye for the purpose of adding Flamberge to the endboard. OSS has so little payoff in Azamina/Snake Eye if it’s just to grab Ash & Poplar and not Flamberge. I’m fine with both getting banned though. It feels to me like the same difference between banning Kashtira Ariseheart vs the Kash Field spell or Birth.
@@alchemistarcher02 there is a 1 card combo that uses the new sinful spoil card to turbo out an omni negate while sending oss for cost and adding ash. While I agree it will not stop the deck to ban oss, it will remove wanted, diabelle and the new azamina spells as starters and cards the deck can play. Thats way bigger than people think
Eoowoooqi3weq 1:10 😊w@@alfred7453
3we2k2i32oeew2do1 2:01
I feel like you only play fuwaross in the side right? It's useless going first and most decks want to go first. I think a lot of decks would prefer to not have to run the bricks.
SHARK BEST DECK 🦈
Tell em !
Damn no Coelacanth
Coelacanth is pure cope
I'm running it. It's easy to get out now. Neptayss send Body guards, SS Pike, grab Abyssrhine, Activate Abyssrhine. People are just lacking imagination and scared of hand traps. Konami needs to get rid of hand traps it's ruining the game.
They’d need to ban both Flamberge & Poplar because Flamberge is a crazy card & whatever consistentcy hits u do to SE won’t matter when Infernal Flame Banshee is a card.
what's the 3 of quickplay next to cbtg on the memento list at 4:45 ?
Goblin Biker Grand Imprisonment (or at least that's the unofficial translation as of now)
next banlist limit oss trust
It has to be oss
Photon Galaxy for life
Ban Flamberge and limit Diabellstar.
After that would be limiting Fiendsmith Engraver and giving an errata to Beatrice.
Make it so her effect can only be used if she was summoned using her alternative summoning requirement. That way Burning Abyss gets a buff and Fiendsmith gets nerfed. Poplar can go to one as well.
Unban Mathmech Circular and Linkuriboh.
Unban Isolde and put her to one.
This will create many more decks for players to build while breathing new life into older archetypes such as Infernoble and different Cyberse decks.
Striker Dragon to 3.
Called By the Grave to 2.
More non engine means more hand traps being used. To help alleviate the problem adding in more counter play is needed for less resilient decks to play.
This is the problem with overpowered decks like snake eyes and tear. Eventually they will limit every card name to one or ban it all together making a theme or art style you like just a bunch of one ofs
Now go play runick ice barrier
3rd Place Team or Team velcro shoes with helmets
Ice Barrier one of the work decks of all time just to let you know whatever difficulty you’re going through in life, you can surpass it with hard work and dedication
why do tenpai side 2 more dora dora?
for mirror or going first
Melodious is bad already? ... i'm saving on master duel for them T^T
I’ve been predicting the poplar ban since the deck came out on master duel. I think that’s the best hit, flameberge is another good one but that will really fuck the deck.
Snake eye did absolutely nothing until they got poplar so I can see it happening
Azamina
Sinful spoils
Snake eye
Next format gonna be ass.
Yubel Dies alone in october. No need to touch it on the banlist. The evidence suggest its a fair deck.
ocg is just one of festivel with the best card ever maxx c legal at 3
surprise suprise the deck with bricks and "misses the timing" is fucking ass......
also no bathmech ignister mention
Wich deck?
If you are talking about yubel, there's only one semi-brick (terror) that can still be used to contact fuse. +if you miss timing with og yubel, well that's a skill issue
Only reason SE>>yubel is because SE has a ton of ectenders that get ypu the same board while yubel changes plan based on what you have in hand
I honestly play Gold Pride P.U.N.K. Goblin Bikers Gundam sharks with the terrortop package.
OCG giving their decks a light novel title for a name is on-brand for Japan.
TCG giving their decks the most vague names ever and also pretending like a deck can completely change its core but still be the same deck because they just call it the same thing as a previous similar deck is on-brand for America.
Jesus.... The last ice barrier structure deck was so disappointing that I never ever want to have something with ice barrier. One of the worst structure decks out there. My most hated deck.
Josh hates OCG duelists
Every TCG player does
He’s not blaming the duelists he’s blaming the banlist people haha.
Memento the only real deck.
why did they put shifter to *2*??? just fucking ban it
They clearly want it to exist duh
Poplar and diabellstar to 1.
Please tell me ur not serious
@@AndrianaboN si
@@gravemind76 I guess there are ppl fine with Snake-Eye Tier 0 for another 3 months
@AndrianaboN how will it be t0 with 1 diabellstar, 1 poplar, ash, wanted???? It pretty much gets the tear treatment. The fiendsmith are a problem in itself since it helps get ash to grave to be revived with princess. Beatrice is getting axed making that combo irrelevant.
@@gravemind76 I was a bit exagerating tbf u said witch and poplar i didnt know u included ocg hit. Im juste tired of the deck and want poplar to go as its still by far the best deck in ocg with all the consistency hit the only close there is tenpai
Looking forward to fuwarose + purulia format to arrive in TCG too. Maybe even 1 more mulcharmy that hits grave / banish.
Going second would be much better before, aside tenpai.
Ban Oak
yeah yeah great cover up of your working time maschine joshua schmidt plus if that is even your real name, to pretend you bought for a retro format. i will keep an eye on who wins the next euro lotto
Bummer, one mermail, no new six sam decks. Just more snake eyes.....yay 🙄😒😒
Fiendsmith should've only benefited pure fiend type decks if they were going to give snake eyes azanima now its just straight over kill
It'd beyond clear that they want snake eyes to be the strongest deck ever yubel can't even play at full power at world's because of dumbass reasons Idc about it's such a sad time
Voiceless lmao
5th place only have borderline chad/cringe decks Lmao.
I hope they don’t ban shit and everybody gets mad af 🤪
I don't understand what people want. We were getting tired of archetypes. Then that kitchen sink deck that popped up in 2022 was cool as hell, but it was being slandered because it was just engines. One of the two decks im playing this format is Horus Adventure Fiendsmith. Just a deck of 3 engines. And im prolly gonna get slandered for that 😂
Card market must love you, you buy a deck for a different format instantly becomes meta
So why must ocg get that format and we mustn’t get it stop crying and play shifter , I’m sick of Konami banning every deck they make that’s even good , then every month is a set with new cards so your deck gets banned or power crept
Also, the overwhelming desire you people have to kill a deck completely is so off putting. No deck should be made unplayable. Consistency hits sure
Nah, its been 8 months of Snake Eyes being undisputed Tier 1. Ban Flamberge and you still have the consistency and bodies to make IP into SP 😂
@@traplover6357 if you don’t see that banning flamberge completely massacres snake-eye, you’re blind.
They always had these urges in them. They still do with Branded.
nah, take it out back and end it
@@neloverg3774 end your back and take it out
9 max C for Master Duel ? Damn, water decks looks cool!