Xu Xiaodong Tests Iron Palm Kungfu
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
- Xu Xiaodong and his kungfu friend bring in an Iron Palm Master to test the strength and efficacy of the palm technique. Let's look at the demonstration, then the two tests on Xu Xiaodong's friend Brother Long. Are these proper tests or is Xu not completely being accurate in his video. Let's watch and see. Stay tuned after this to see something I've been doing to help train my brain.
Watch the original for the entire match sequence (including Xu's interview with the Iron Palm Master):
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Timecodes:
0:00 Iron Palm Kungfu vs Bricks
1:23 Someone in comments will observe this
1:52 Test 1 of Iron Palm Kungfu
2:29 Analysis of this test
3:05 Test 2 of Iron Palm Kungfu
3:51 Analysis of test 2
4:38 Critique of Xu's intention
5:16 A new hobby I've been building
5:57 Great update on my growth 
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To anyone wondering why at 5:44 the opponent's king (called General in Chinese chess) can't just take my pawn: the concept is called 飞将 (Flying General) or 面笑 (laughter face to face). In Chinese Chess (aka Xiangqi), the Generals can never face each without a piece interposed between them. The reason is based on Ancient Chinese warfare. Occasional battles would be decided based on a duel of the commanding officers. Whichever General won the duel would win the battle and the rest of the troops would go home or surrender. Sometimes these types of duels were due to ego, sometimes they were due to altruism for the troops, and sometimes they were due to opportunity (aka seeing the general exposed and going directly for the takedown). The word you often hear for this action is 单挑 or 大将出马. So based on some historical precedent, the people who helped develop Xiangqi have a "Flying General" rule to mimic the fact that if your general were exposed, he or she might just get directly taken by a cunning opposing general. So going back to the endgame I showed you guys. My pawn is protected by my general, so the opposing general can't capture my pawn or else my General will capture him. With no ability to capture my pawn, the general has to move. Then I could have ended it another way beside using my rook to checkmate. Knowing that my centroid pawn is protected by my General, I actually could have used my other pawn on that rank to checkmate by moving either to the left or to the backrank. The General cannot move out of the 3X3 Place, so that General is stuck in that palace corner. My right-most pawn, if moved to the left would be protected by the centroid pawn. If it moved to the backrank, it would be protected by the General's inability to leave the palace walls (unless for a flying general move). We'll explore all this more as I show you more about Xiangqi. Learning historical games can teach you so much about strategy and culture at the same time!
Thanks for this explanation, I thought about it immediately when I saw.
U right they did not test it well. His hand has to be on a resistance to know the impact of the force
Human bone is a lot more resistant to fracture than concrete. The humerus, the upper arm bone, has a compressive strength of about 107MPa. Generally normal human bone can resist about 4000N of force before it is at risk of fracturing. This means that bones can withstand more force than standard concrete. It is very difficult to break them in healthy individuals. The brick he was breaking can’t resist even half as much force as the larger bones of the body. It’s not surprising that he was unable to cause serious damage even during a serious attempt to break the upper arm.
That is so great to know. Thank you so much for this information!
@@FightCommentary No problem I couldn’t remember the exact numbers but I was able to find research literature on these value and actual punch strength and apparently in boxing matches the strength of punches that land is a lot lower than some lab estimates had predicted so it’s not surprising that we don’t usually see major bones breaking during these types of sports competitions.
@@Hwikek
Xu Xiaodong should challenge a Sanda fighter .
By now ... every China Watcher knows Xu is an "asset" of the anti-Chinese alliance lead by the U$ .
Let's not forget that the leverage and focus is different when you have all the time in the world to focus and bring down your full weight.
The bones could withstand the force.. but the muscles on the area would definitely be in pain..
I like the niche and casual feel of this channel. It feels like I'm talking to my friend while making a BBQ
You never know when you'll be ambushed by a gang of bricks...
Happened to me yesterday.
If you're trying to rob a house where Kevin McCallister lives.
Correction, a gang of stationary and well-positioned bricks...
@@kaguthimagine home alone 6, iron palm masters invade!
Or boxing bags
When i first started Kung Fu the teacher read a long document. In it was stated ."Brick breaking and showmanship is the lowest level of Kung Fu. The Iron palm is great to the face or solar plexus.
It always is
Cope
@@RichPT🤣
@@RichPT It's easier to grab the groin instead of aiming for the throat or heart. Ripping the groin with a tiger claw technique inflicts pain and agony.
@@RichPTim pRetty sure liu kang or kung lao didnt do that...😑😑
Kudos to you sir, you're a great casual cultural ambassador
Glad you like this niche I’ve been having fun with!
This guy is either a closet self-hater or compromised to hate on his nation's Kung Fu .
Even Bruce Lee didn't abandon or discard Kung Fu ...when he developed JKD .
Chinese Kung Fu Masters does sparring > Sanda
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 but he delights when the traditional styles succeed eg Chi La La
He's not against kung fu nor any traditional martial arts. He's against fraudsters lîke "no touch masters".
Bruce Lee never supported fraudsters, He developped a geniune style which is still practiced nowadays.@@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@@liquidfootyquotesthat Wumao above is standard when Xu gets too popular. When I first started covering Xu, the comment section would always have people like him but they left for a while because I didn’t cover Xu. But now they’re back 😂
The end of the video was more interesting than the original content. I also play a lot of strategy games; I view jiu jitsu the same way I view chess and go, and the games help me build a better mindset as a grappler.
Man, you made a lot of good points in this. I enjoyed this great job.👍
Thank you for the upload Brother! Dude: in China these tricks are well known as are the type of bricks used. A "fake" master uses an ornamental brick: whereas an actual master; aka Sifu, uses a heavy load-bearing brick. The latter minimum compressive strength for clay bricks is 9N/mm2 for buildings up to 2 stories: 13N/mm2 for buildings taller then 2 stories.
Peace & Love!!!
Those details are super interesting too!
Iron stomach master
Likely! Some of these guys can eat the spiciest craziest stuff 😂
@@FightCommentaryasians are so crazy w their spicy food just like indians, lol😅😅
I heard a story second-hand about a trio of American martial artists who were friendly with a Tai Chi Chuan master from China and used to play cards with him. One night, he asked one of them to fetch a brick from behind the house, inspect it to make sure it was totally solid, and place it in the center of the table. Once that was done, the brick was determined to be real and very solid, they continued playing cards with no further mention of the brick. But at some point, the master reached over the table and lightly tapped the brick with his fingertips, then continued playing with no comment. The guys playing cards with him didn't say anything until the master got up to go to the bathroom. Then they glanced at the brick and saw that it had a massive crack through it.
Sounds like stuff you hear in a deli.
So a bullshido story nice
@@saintsinningsword You sound like the standard issue hater dismissing anything that sounds whoo-whoo to your delicate ears. No, little fella, I heard the story from a credible source or I wouldn't have repeated it here just for the classic anecdote that it is.
@@foolishyish So a bullshido comment from another troll not so nice
That just a trick for entertainment purpose lol😂😂😂
Bricks do not fight back..
For our Martial test..breaking concrete tiles was mandatory…mainly to building confidence…..
Thank you for pointing out your thoughts..
It's not that bricks don't fight back, it's a test of skill and pain resistance.
Just because Bruce Lee said a statement doesn't mean it's 100% the way to go.
Many ways to the top maye
I love your videos! My understanding is that human bones are flexible to some degree, and the force of the Iron Palm strike could travel throughout Brother Long's body. In the initial brick-breaking demo, I wonder if the underlying brick's edge acted as a fulcrum. You can see in the shadow he cast that Iron Palm Master had his right hand quite high. The momentum his hand travels, plus the mass of his arm, plus the fulcrum point receiving all that applied force could have, perhaps, contributed to the brick's breakage. What do you think? Bro, you're awesome! I enjoy your keeping up with Xu Xiaodong's journey!
There’s another Xu one I saved but can’t find anymore. He goes to some tai chi master’s dojo who challenged him, and of course the tai chi master isn’t there.
Yes. All your suppositions are correct.
Actually from what I was taught an iron palm can break a brick on the bottom of a stack without breaking the others or chose to do one anywhere in the stack and there is no arm movement they just placed the hand on top and make the break.
I'm not saying he was deliberately using a fake brick. But let's be honest. You can tell by looking at the inside of the brick after it broke that it's not the same as like what you might go get at Home Depot in the states. One of those would be much harder to break.
No. They break those too. Iron Palm is good skill
@@bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186 I'm sure some guys can. I've seen some pretty impressive breaking demos before. But I stand by what I said. A well made brick would be much harder to break. These ones the guy used here were definitely not very strong bricks.
He didn't use an iron palm technic, he just used his mass...
Not only Taichi o Quigong masters, blackbelts in Aikido, karate and kenpo have big belly. Because the amount of ki?
Could be 😂
Probably, if Ki is a brand of beer.
More likely Kfc. 😂.
Difference between a fighter and a martial artist.
Fighters train to fight.
Martial artist train to perfect a set of moves.
They can be both for example, judo is a good example of this, they are Fighters and martial artist.
But like aikido for example they do not fight at all.
A beer belly isn't an indication of anything other than they've stopped doing physical fitness. There are lots of examples of both amateur and professional boxers who have beer bellies once they've stopped physical training and are past a particular age.
The brick breaking is more to do with physics than Iron Palm technique. I seen guys on building sites do the same thing.
Your first point is well taken. But the channel guy has to use that look as a point for ridicule.
i did see a crack
Yep. I rewatched and saw a slight one too on one of the bricks.
Another aspect for centering the brick is that it plays on the bricks tensile (pull apart) strength which is generally a fraction of its compressive (squish together) strength it's why you can pull apart a cinder block it's not designed to be pulled apart it's designed to be squished from a material standpoint
You can actually find the approximate tensile/compressive strength numbers online for the specific product you buy the ones I bought ( house bricks from lowes) on average have 50 pounds of tensile strength and hundreds of lbs of compressive
I'm surprised no one has brought it up till now the story of when Bruce Lee dislocated someone's shoulder with a slap.
Never heard of that, what happened? when? 🧐
@@Bartron_Flat_Earth in a movie i guess lol.
Lmaoooo are you just mentioning it as btw? Or do you actually believe he broke someones shoulder?
Civil Engineering, brick is extremely strong against compression but relatively weak against tension. That was tension applied to brick.
In iron palm training you develop the muscle, ligaments, and bone to a certain degree. It takes time and the main focus is on maintaining health and safety.
A boxer makes gains in development of the fist and wrist, a thai fighter his shins just by working on heavy bags. The weight gain sometimes comes from ego, and age. Not everyone who trains does it to be an active fighter. Plus iron body training is filled with showmanship and fraudulent practices for profit and notoriety.
@@RichPT Too much time spent alone in the bathroom?
would love to see him fighting monks, the real ones
Ive always wondered about the beer belly as well, motobu choki the karate guy from early 1900s was known to start street fights to practice and they called him the most practical karate master, and he had a gut
That’s so interesting! Do his matches have any records on video or film?
@@FightCommentaryI don't think there were cameras in Okinawa's red district at the time.
Also, there is a newspaper recording of him defeating a boxer and the paper used a picture of Funakoshi, whom he hated. That prompted him to go defeat Funakoshi in his own dojo, which is a very funny story because Funakoshi was totally unrelated to the paper and Choki couldn't read Japanese that well (he had a heavy Okinawan accent)
Watch Jesse's video about him I think the guy was hilarious.
Having a ripped six pack doesn’t have anything to do with fighting ability. Some men just carry more fat there, especially if they are bigger naturally
@@RAPEDBYBLACKSKarate are a style that Violent Thugs use back then in Okinawa are very Brutal and these Thugs always fighted and beat people for real back then, But a man called Funakoshi changed everything, Funakoshi invented a code of honor for Karate and with the help of Kano the creator of Judo who are impressed with Fukonoshi code of honor and his Karate skills he helped Karate become popular in Tokyo as it was seen as a civilized art.
To paraphrase THE MAN “bricks don’t fight back” and if he does not have the skill as a striker this is not worth much. But it does have some worth.
The issue is not a magic bone breaking but toughening the body as a weapon. The fact that he can break the brick only shows his hand and body can transfer force in a controlled circumstance and his hands are tough enough to be used in open hand attacks using the palm.
Good for him.
But that only works if you are good at parrying strikes and hitting at the parts of the body where that force transfer would be most efficient - ribs, side on elbows/knees and side of the skull. (Again not for breaking but energy transfer when striking) And he does not show that to me (his body may hint he can’t but I will not judge. )
I have broken a brick that are thicker twice from that. 4 or 5 inch thick? a fired red clay mixed with sand.
You just need to hurt your palm enough and a single red brick ( pretty sure it was cheap one ) is also not really built to withstand a force coming like that.
@@era7928 I would have to be there to know what the brick was and I can’t tell. Assuming it is a solid brick what it can allow for best case. And yeah, that is the reason that people that work with their hands hit harder than others (sans training).
The beer belly is where theu store their chi😂🗿
Here's the thing guys... 😏
Knuckles and straight punching take a lot of conditioning.
You can train bareknuckle for years and do zero palm conditioning
and STILL hit hard objects with your palm more easily.
I can punch walls now, but nowhere near full force.
But with palm or hammer fist - easy.
so you are the wall puncher I keep hearing about.. please leave my walls be😢
Of course you can hit with your palm more easily. Physics 101. A greater surface area disperses energy. Think of it in terms of hitting a nail punch with a hammer. It will poke a hole through wood. Now hit the flat surface of a book that weighs the same as the nail punch against the wood using the same force. Nothing.
That is why the first thing taught in judo when being thrown is to smack with arms outward and palms down on the mat. It lessens the impact by dispersing energy instead of pinpointing it.
but could you break the wall?! if not, you should work also on your punches, they are too weak 🙂
The only real way to test A vs B is to have a medium similar to ballistics gelatin in that it's universal in reaction. Not all boards, bricks or stones even are the same . I don't know what that medium would be though . Or maybe just a device that measures foot pounds or energy ? When I was training Hapkido during a belt test the head instructor did a break. This guy had seriously calloused fists. He had 4 boards that had certification marks on them of some sort and were bound together with no spacers He then had a student hold them by a string so they were suspended in air and he broke them in one shot with a backfist . That was pretty great. He Il Cho used to break a standard 6 ft 2x4 being held up by 2 light bulbs and the bulbs didn't break . He also routinely split a fresh out of the box Everlast heavy bag with kicks. Now of course it's possible that all of these were rigged somehow but I think it at least showed an effort at having a standardized medium .
The real purpose of iron palm is to condition the open hand for repeated full force striking.
You can't punch your way to victory without gloves. But, if hands are well conditioned, you can slap, chop, grab, and kick to a win. Even against multiple combatants.
Cool xiangqi moves
To paraphrase Bruce Lee -- "Bricks don't hit back."
😂 I was going to say the same thing
Neither did his "opponents" lets remember he was just an actor.
@@karlozortega246Always that one token idiot saying "Bruce Lee was just an actor" whenever Bruce Lee, the most influential Martial Artist in modern history who Chuck Norris trained with as an equal, is mentioned.
You wouldn't hit back if he hit you either.
Yeah and punching bags also but every boxer trains on them
Hitting bricks or boxing bags and so on is only a part of training conditioning or train your hitting power or technic…
All this is to prepare you for a real fight on step before the real fight is then sparring
So this bricks don’t hit thing is so lame to be honest
Jerr: bricks aren't alll the same. That brick didn't look fully fired. The middle was a different color than the outside. Try concrete.
They should have let the mma student try the brick trick, and yeah, it's obviously a trick giving the amount of leverage given by the position of the brick underneath. You just need to find the right spot for the fulcrum to do its magic, apply swift heavy force on the exposed side and firm pressure on the other end to keep the top brick in place, flush with the bottom one during the strike.
And at the last second slightly pick the brick up however the bricks are porous so
That arm slap allows the arm to "go with the hit" without resisting thus the damage of the impact is lowered.
For a better understanding imagine 2 cars colliding.
The brick hit is a front to front collision. The arm hit is a back collision while moving (or without breaks on).
A hit to the body, let's say ribs, would have broken the guy's ribs due to the resistance the body gives back into the hit. If the hit to the body would be snapped back the shock goes into internal organs.
I know this because I was the dummy years back. No ribs broken though, was just given a sample. Yes, I did flew in the air a few meters before realizing what is happening to me.
Best we can say of iron palm dude is that he has some degree of strength and form to break bricks. I dunno if Xu Xiaodong would've been able to do it himself if he tried, because that's the closest thing for comparison I can give.
On the other hand, if dude was more in fighting shape, maybe doing some strike to strike comparisons between the Iron Palm guy and Xu would've been good.
When I was in high school, my friends and I chopped bricks from a house next door doing some reconstruction. We got in trouble because we broke so many bricks.
Very nice. Plz check coconut breaking techniques
Tell me more!
Hey, you have a cool channel, I watch you a lot. I have retired from a lifetime of practicing the martial arts, but I can't stop being interested in the stuff and how it keeps changing. Anyway, I will tell you a recipe. Take a regular brik and soak it in water for some hours, and then freeze it overnight in the freezer. And then thaw it and and let it dry. That's it, your break is ready. It weighs the same, it feels the same, and your grandma can break it now.
That is super interesting!
I apreciate your honesty about never breaking a brick before. That is a very difficult break to perform. My sifu would do that type of thing, but while squatted down with his breaking hand only about a foot above the brick (so no added leverage or body weight involved. However, like you said.... "Bricks don`t hit back"
Wow! That is awesome he could do it without the other hand!
@@FightCommentary No. He held the brick over a small bench with his other hand. I did see another video of an old master doing this same thing with a stone
Wish you explained that in your first comment@@willaimrobinson9383 I got so excited for nothing.
You need to work collaboratively with this guy and meet him. You're like his biggest supporter
I bet he'd be great at one of those slap fights all over RUclips.
Beer belly is where you store the qi. Lower center of gravity.
Breaking is about skill practice a d method if do parm is different to edge and pressure will depend if bricks on tope of each other is still possible to breack both or one brick if focus the enrgry thought it
Unless things have changed over the years-- bricks from the beginning and ending of the runs break much more easily. They are essentially trash, and they can be picked up pretty cheap.
There's a lot of physics tricks these guys pull as well! Space lets you smash the blocks together, and they distribute force to one anothers weaknesses pretty well! Really, it's mostly tricks and confidence! If Iron Palm were effective mma and bare knuckle people would have picked it up over the past 20 - 30 years!
For a long time Wolfe's law was misunderstood, and it took testing to confirm how it works. It strengthens bones but in bones that support the areas of repetitive impact like shins in runners, or forearms in boxers! The remains of archers can even be determined by the bone density from interactions with the draw weight!
So, to everyone bringing up weight training, you nailed it! Sprinting and bag work apply as well, but not always as imagined. Round kicking a bag can deaden nerves for instance, but the best evidence shows that it doesn't build bone density! Squating and running are much more effective!
Imagine doing an Iron Palm on a joint? 😮😮😮
There have been a lot of extremely tough fighters with good cardio who also had bellies - not that I think that the same is true of that old dude, but you can't always trust your eyes.
I think breaking brick or cutting glass with the palm of your hand are just for show and entertainment.
I once heard someone talk about how these displays were used as " parlour tricks" or " vagabond skills" for travelling king fu practitioners to make a bit of money or get something to eat.
I and my younger in laws once had a lot of bricks for our house's renovation. They were in their teens, and they managed to break the bricks with their palms without practice. It's gotta be at least 5 bricks to be worth watching
Nobody in a fight is going to place a limb in a perfect position between 2 solid anchors, for someone to break.
Look at the brick half at 1:10, it is filled with dirt. Real bricks are red throughout.
Maybe not in China. 🙃
yer thats right doesnt it, THAT looks weird....😳😳
Half of these breaking demonstrations have rigged props. I also don't remember if it was Jerry's channel or some other, but apparently there are different grades of construction bricks, and people choose the weakest ones unsuitable for construction for these demonstrations.
If u look closely on the brick u will see the line 😂
I'd say to get a leg of pork to test it on. The bone density and the meat and tissue etc... round the bone is going to be reasonably similar to a human arm (I think, maybe forearm??). Going to look up the Chinese Chess now. I live in Guangzhou and have often wondered how this version is played. My 13 year daughter often destroys me at Western Chess so I'd love to give this a whirl. Cheers!
Make sure to use the link in the description ;) Let me know if you have any questions!
@@FightCommentary Can't sign in through wechat for some reason. No worries, will have a go again alter. Gotta go out for a bit now. Cheers!
One of myy instructors used to call these "martial arts party tricks". I've broken a lot of boards and a couple of bricks (concrete, not like these). The trick is speed and not hesitating. If you hesitate, you will get hurt. Like Columbus's egg, it's easy enough when you know the trick.
What’s Columbus’ Eggs?
It is an apocryphal story from the 16th century about Columbus. According to the story, someone said to Columbus that finding a new trade route was inevitable and no great accomplishment. He then challenged his critics to make an egg stand on its tip. After his challengers give up, Columbus does it himself by tapping the egg on the table to flatten its tip. He then said.. it's easy when you know the trick, but not before. @@FightCommentary
Iron Chop is not Iron Palm. He was supposed to shatter the brick with his palm, not chopping it.
Another sign is to look at his palm. I remember part of Iron Palm training is to wash his palm in sand and then iron crusts constantly which eventually toughens the skin and bones to the point they feel like iron hard.
During the process, the hand, the forearm, and the arm would get a lot of exercise and should be somewhat muscular. I'm not see any level of muscularity on that arm. Maybe they are hiding underneath that layer of fat.
It's true there is a lot of real master's that don't want to fight.
Once they know how dangerous they are: they know they both are lucky if their spleen and eyes still work afterwards.
I thought a test that'd make the most sense would be for Xu Xiaodong to take one of the dude's bricks and try to break it himself.
That is, if Xu can do it without any specific training then it basically proves there's no benefit to breaking bricks over regular striking training.
"Bottom one."
😉
you dont need to be lean or olympic level fit to defend yourself.
im not saying thats why all these kung fu guys are fat.
but im saying that being fat doesnt necessarily indicate a lack of skill or experience (or even fitness).
if combat sports didnt have weight classes, you wouldnt see many six packs anymore. youd see a lot of mark hunts, daniel cormiers, ben rothwells, roy nelsons, derrick lewis's, and so on.
body fat aids energy, aids in mechanical muscular advantage (fat distribution changes muscle force angles), aids in lifting by creating a shelf (ala Strongman physique), and counter pressure into something if youre bearhugging it, and to the extent your muscles can carry and move it effectively, it adds mass to strikes and grapples, making them a bit more effective.
add to all of that, nearly all self defense incidents are over well before a boxing round. the fast majority are done with in a minute or less.
Thats not even enough time for the body to be in aerobic functioning. so a lot of cardio really isnt needed.
strength, mass, and anaerobic capacity would serve better.
Jerry, it's all physics. Breaking bricks (including selective brick breaking), boards, bending resilient softer metal is physics, banana trees, and animal bones. All these materials have different tolerances. GOOD Kung Fu masters KNOW this and teach their pupil to hit the object by: whipping, pushing, slapping, sinking etc. All these are taught sequentially with different materials to learn how to properly land strikes on hard or soft surfaces and maximize lethal power.
BAD Kung Fu masters will simply focus on impressing others visually by breaking 5 boards but cannot break a brick, or break 5 bricks, but cannot break a board. These are the people with really calloused hands from hard, but inefficient hard qigong training.
The GOOD masters simply teach you how to manipulate basic rules in physics. ANY beginner can break these material WITHOUT hard qigong. You just need to find a few guys on RUclips that has broken different materials with a tutorial explaining and simply practice. Once you do it a few times successfully, it's not mysterious. It should take fews months of rigorous training (not years) to learn how to break different materials.
In the video, the guy needs to do more of a weight drop by sudden sinking your body as you slap with a softly clenched leopard palm by whipping a limp wrist... 拍 thru the guy like hitting somebody with a leather sap...
Physics example... Machetes have blades that of hardness of RHC 59 are used to chop wood or animal bones. Machetes of hardness of RHC 52 are used to cut tall grass. Machetes of hardness of RHC 55 are used to cut bushes. Machetes of hardness of 57 RHC are used as general purpose. Now apply that same principle with "iron" palm training.
I've got this Chinese chess ♟️ at home, but flat and out of wood and Chinese letters on it plus the playing field out of paper. It's a lotta fun!
Let’s play online soon!
@@FightCommentary Cool 😎👍🏻
I tried this after watching fight quest... it's hard
The way the top brick stick out over the edge - doesn't that make it easier to chop? I would have thought so.
Yep
paw SOMEONES ARM AS YOU DO IN EVERY COMBAT SYSTETEM I have learnt including white collar & professional boxing (In am not nor never have been a professional just learnt from a professional boxing coach!)
The brick is held in place and it has a fracture edge. Try breaking a brick suspended from a thread.
The Iron Palm guy's hands look soft though. I watched the Charlene Houghton video you linked where her dad was showing how he trains Iron Palm. His hands are gnarly man. Looks like they've gone through H E double hockey sticks and back. Could probably crack a bowling ball without breaking his own hand.
Talking about bellies Xu isnt exactly wearing a small size shirt himself lol i have a bit of a belly too but i can spar and roll for an entire class but my opinion on brick breaking is its a trick but you do have to follow through in most cases but alot of those bricks aint too hard to break you just have to know how to hit them and it doesn't necessarily translate to fighting
its not the femur, its the humerus
He can stick the brick out! It's still impressive stuff!
There is a trick for breaking boards and bricks. I tested that in my vids. The very first scene in my oldest vid posted in my ch is when i broke a solid brick with that trick.
6:06-6:08 Jerry Yeung exactly used Chinese chess as a metaphor for his understanding of Wing Chun principle. If you want to know it, I can copy the paragraph for his book to you
Please do!
@@FightCommentary 「收集數據對打贏一場交很重要......一位武術師父，要做的事就是教導學員如何打好一場交、如何保護自己-有效率地打交。打交是一場博奕，如下象棋般，你一步我一步，每一步也影響著對方。所以不存在「我想用這招，便用那一招」......要進攻對方，就要選上那個對自己對有利的方法，就得問「為何這樣做?」以及「為何不這樣做?」......就像下中國象棋般，當知對方會因你下了那步而有所應對，你就知象棋的難道在哪。因為每一步，下得正確，就可牽制對方時又能為自己提高勝算。但若下得不正確，卻會為對方帶來勝算-一子錯，滿盤皆落索。從象棋原理中，得要明白，運用功夫時，以千變萬化的招式進攻，想令對手難以估計你，實然上是不可能的。而根據象棋原理，拳打中線，就是攻擊上的最佳選擇」 then there are 6 pages length on explaining what is 中線& why need to 拳打中線but Due to the length, I don't include it here.
I dont know about Chinese chess but I use Western style chess as a metaphor to understand Kung Fu principles and strategies not just Wing Chun. Center control, Splitting attacks, Diversion, Pinning attacks, Pressure etc.
If the arm was lined against the ground and had no where to move I think it would be a different story
I'm looking at the brick, and it's not in the middle. I would say it's closer to 40% of the way. But also, Xu probably can't do this w/o coming away unscathed. Having said that, bricks don't fight back. To me, these types of feats are more like circus feats. Kind of cool to look at, but certainly applicable only in very limited cicumstances.
It's unfortunate that it's hard to know whether someone is really using power and technique besides just trickery.
Even if the brick is lifted a tiny bit before hitting it, it would cause it to break pretty easy when struck
People can be seen on youtube breaking rocks with that same technique, and perhaps that is the technique after all. Doesn't matter if there's some secret power involved or not as long as the rocks becoming broken is accomplished
徐某人其實對功夫很尊重，只要你不是在吹牛，他都能跟你有講有笑
What is the expected result? Xu Xiaodung was pointing at the arm as if we were supposed to see something that wasn't (?) there. I am not sure what he was looking for. What is the claim the practitioner makes that the iron palm is supposed to differentiate on?
Without that, it is difficult to even know what the test is supposed to be.
I used to do that when I was 14 yrs old but my family complained as they wanted the bricks for house maintenance
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Well cutting a brick like that with the hand isn't much more then conditioning the hand to do it by repeatedly micro fracturing it and healing and some level of power is required too sure.
The Wonton Don visited a Chinese legendary alcoholic named "Peasant King" Pangzai and he broke the same brick TWICE.
Could you show us a link if it exists on RUclips?
wait why couldn't the king capture the h pawn when you moved it up?
In Chinese chess, there's a "Flying General rule." Basically, it's based off in Ancient China, sometimes the generals would directly duel and then the soldiers would retreat if one of the generals lost. So that flying general rule is based on the “单挑." I'll make a post about this in a pinned comment. Great question! -Jerry (in gamer mode)
Actual kungfu: ruclips.net/video/1jalbXkZSHg/видео.html
They want that kung fu panda look.
You could test these strikes on blocks of clay.
Expand on the idea. I'm curious!
@@FightCommentary i know that people use clay blocks to test weapons. Why couldnt someone use a 1 square foot cube (or whatever size you choose) of clay to test the impact of strikes? To be fair, ive never seen it done, but doesnt it seem like it could be a viable option? Just a thought.
If you look closely that brick already have a little crack to where it broke, n if it's legit iron palm I don't think you need any leverage to deal serious damage in a human body...
The question about why the belly is so big, some will say it's because they have too much "CHI" built up. I've heard many times that the big guys have built up a lot of chi and gained big belly's.
[Martin Yan voice]
Famous Chinese tofuuuu brick!
Who’s Martin Yan?
@@FightCommentary Martin Yan had a famous Chinese cooking show in the 80s/90s. His signature quote was "If Yan can cook, SO CAN YOU!" Uncle Roger on youtube sounds a lot like Martin Yan these days.
Sign a disclaimer not responsible for injury then pay the guy a lot of money to show breakage of a fist held out and if money is more important than injuring someone he will break whatever body part you ask as long as it does not kill the person. The iron palmist should use his palm near the wrist to flick at the last moment or flick the back of his fist to break the hand. It's kind of like bruce Lee's 2 inch punch at the last second flick the wrist. This mma chinese trainer should know that real iron palm practioners without deformed hands can break a walnet with this technique flicking their backhand. Usually an iron palm practioner may have deformed callouses around their knuckle or one hand is larger than the other especially around the side of the hand. Sometimes on hand is really deformed and large. Their objective is to break your arms or legs if you put them out there to be struck. Some martial artists use a hammer fist especially against legs. The worse thing is if they can slap you stun you or knock you out.
While there is much truth in what you have said. I had my hand broken when I was 21 during randori with a 4 times national champion judoka. In my mid 30,s I was sparring full contact with a guy wearing shoes with PKA/PKC/MMA rules. I slightly misjudged the distance and broke my pinky. After that i started training iron palm to prevent injuries. It worked and I never injured my hands again but, I haven't trained in years and am starting to have arthritis issues . When training I was healthy. I am considering resuming training to see if it fixes those issues. If done properly I think it can help improve some health issues. If the primary or only concern is fighting using weapons is much faster and easier than training iron Palm.
Oh and just to show you silly. This is what you do 2 weeks into iron palm training ruclips.net/video/stJ_V0QDNgA/видео.html
If you start training again, please send me clips!
You must put vodka in the water melon for consumption afterward. It is nutritious.
I am happy to do so. Understand herbal formulas are important to prevent and heal injuries.@@FightCommentary
That clip you linked is hilarious 😂
Where's the link 🖇️?
All in the description
@@FightCommentary the link brings up a error,😞
bricks dont hit back.....
Beer belly? Sammo Hung has joined the chat.
Because Tai chi isn't cardio but don't tell them that
😂
I guess you've never heard of Roy big country Nelson
If this master cannot break a bone 🦴 like that, he cannot use it under pressure.
He got hands like bear paws
Plot twist: the bricks are tofu dreg
Never assume a guy with a pot belly cannot fight. If you are going to be one of those who judge a person by their built, you be in for a very bad surprise. You should walk into a full contact gym and called out the fattest guy there to a fight in his gym. If you do so, please record it, I am sure Jerry will upload it and I WILL definitely watch it.
Breaking bricks doesn't mean he can fight. Its like asking a powelifter to win a bodybuilding contest. They both train in a gym but for different things. Also I think the test was not accurate as a litmus test. What should have been was that everyone had a go breaking the bricks if he wanted to proof anyone with fight training can break bricks.
bricks dont hit back.