NORTH vs. SOUTH Kung Fu: The Differences Explained
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2024
- Why is Northern and Southern Kung Fu so different, and how can you tell those differences? In this episode we're going to explain why Kung Fu styles are most commonly grouped between the northern and southern regions of China, the impact those regions had on the development of Kung Fu, and how that affected the spread of global martial arts.
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You know what really gets me thinking? That most Okinawan/Ryukyu karate is heavily influenced by southern Chinese Kung Fu - yet Tang Soo Do (Korean Karate) has heavy northern Chinese Kung Fu as an influence instead. Thats why it seemed so different. 👊🥋🇰🇷🇨🇳
okinawan karate indeed is coming from the southern shaolin kung fu and tang soo do is coming from nothern shaolin kung fu
I practiced Tang Soo Do for 25 years. It is Japanese Shotokan brought to Korea by Lee Won Kuk combined with the rich history of Korean kicking. Hwang Kee, a student of Lee Won Kuk, learned one basic long fist form and taught it during the 60s and 70s. He called it Sorim Jang Kwan, which translates to Shaolin Long Fist, but this was not a Shaolin form or style. His form was Jie Quan, which is a fundamental long fist form taught across China at Chin Woo schools. The notes on the back of his book describe it. Hwang Kee stopped teaching this form, but it endured among some of his senior students, some of which learned a two person set also taught at Chin Woo. Hwang Kee stopped with the Shotokan forms and invented a syllabus that was influenced by what he learned in his trip to China, but this is much different from what was taught in Korea during the 1950s and what Chuck Norris learned at Osan Air force Base.
Shaolin worked as a library for martial arts, preserving styles brought to them independently from all over China, but it has a reputation that convinced some to state that their style originated there, even though their style is not actually practiced at the temple. The long fist form that Hwang Kee learned was actually invented in Western China among Muslim Chinese and is called Long Fist.
The Shaolin kung fu we practice at our school comes from Shi Goulin who was a monk at the Shaolin Temple. None of the Tang Soo Do I did in 25 years was like the kung fu Shi Goulin learned at the temple while growing up.
The exception would be the U punch from Bassai, which they call Lohan Dries the Corpse in the Sun in Hung Gar kung fu. This is an ancient technique in multiple styles of kung fu including that which is taught in the temple today, but because Bassai is 500 years old, it likely comes from a very early introduction of Kung Fun to Okinawa, before White Crane was invented.
@@TrentMantis A very rich history indeed! Another Chinese system learned by Grandmaster Hwang Kee was Yang Kung-Fu, which is northern Chinese martial arts. I myself recently started dipping my toes into the world of Chinese Kung Fu because I wanted to go back to the roots, and I must say it's been an interesting journey! 👊🥋🇨🇳
@@TrentMantis that can depend on the lineage ot TSD, in some of them I've seen forms from TSD that look like bajiquan or other northern styles
@@gnos1s171 Are you taking about the Yuk Ro Hyung and Chil Sung Hyung? Those were invented by Hwang Kee. The other branches of Tang Soo Do assimilated into Tae Kwan Do or kept the Shotokan forms.
There are some Korean versions of Long Fist Praying Mantis, but this is not Tang Soo Do. Tang Soo Do is the Korean pronunciation of the Japanese characters for Karate-do. It was a Japanese martial art. Hwang Kee claimed a Chinese origin when the practice of Japanese culture was banned after WWII. The Japanese occupation was cruel and the national movement to unify martial arts under the common Korean banner of Tae Kwan Do was part of the nationalist movement after Korean culture was banned by a Japanese occupation that sought to transform Korea into a culturally Japanese country.
Hwang Kee actually won a freedom of speech lawsuit to retain the right to teach Japanese karate, but he made new forms anyway. His slower movements come from the tai chi he learned and the Okinawan karate dynamic tension movements as found in the form Sip Soo. These have a southern kung fu origin and can be found in multiple southern styles. Dynamic tension is not prevalent in Northern styles.
If you compare Hwang Kee's new form movements to the Chin Woo long fist forms such as Gong Li Quan, Jie Quan, and Tan Tui, you will see moves taken from those and combined with Shotokan forms like Jion, Oh Sip Sa Bo, Sei San, Bassai and Kong Sang Koon.
It may look similar to some moves in Baijiquan but this does not mean that they influenced each other. There are multiple moves in Hung Gar that can also be found in Bassai and 7 Star Praying Mantis, but these are most likely due to influences from hundreds of years ago as martial artists traveled, taught at the Shaolin Temple, and borrowed moves over time. A technique that is 900 years old likely influenced every Asian martial art in existence.
I've been watching a lot of Kung Fu movies. I hear them speak about this North VS South.Thank you for the explanation. Snake in eagles shadow. The drunken mantis
Nice summary! You could add one other region, Western Chinese. This is the system originally called Lions Roar. It originated about 1600 in the Tibetan Nomad Kingdoms of Western China. Over the years the system spread into eastern China, and the southern area. The sister systems that come from this system are: Lama Pai, Hop Gar and Pak Hok Pai (Tibetan White Crane). Note that Tibetan White Crane is much different than Fukien White Crane. Tibetan White Crane looks more Northern with long reaching fist and kicks. The footwork is also unique.
Very well documented. I enjoyed the specificity of north & south's focuses. I had always learned that the main reason north focused more on wide stances and big movements was because of all the space they had to work, whereas southern styles used close-quarter combat because of the population being so much more dense and the cities more packed. The old Kowloon Walled City from Hong Kong is a good example. Thank you, Dan!
Damn! Inspired me to go dig out my collection of Kung Fu cinema and binge watch.
I’ve always known the difference to be Northern Legs/ Southern Hands. An oversimplification perhaps.
Great vid as always.
The northern arts were based on the military. The north being where the armies around the capital were bases. Coming from military weapons such as spear there is a need for strong stances and a requirement for advancing foot work as armies clashed. The southern systems were more civilian based. Hand to hand fighting while standing toe to toe. Weapons were often much smaller or the type a civilian might have access to as can be seen in Okinawan Karate or in the short weapons in Wing Chun.
Such a great video! I've known about the divide between Northern and Southern styles of Kung Fu before, but seeing it here was great. The video is both concise and rich. Really liked how you contrasted the two regions towards the end with the two styles that are similar in name only. In any case, this was well done! Looking forward to more "history of" episodes!
As a Kung Fu guy, I love finding videos on the subject. This was great
Love your channel, Im currently a purple belt in Shorin -Ryu and but I also want to study other arts to add, this video was awesome 💯
I have enjoyed your knowledge of the martial arts and the history that you have included within your video.
Check out Mandarin Ducking Kicking Kung Fu 戳腳. It is an ancient northern style mentioned in the Water Margin. It is all high kicks that strike from above to the head or collar bone.
A very good video Mr Dan. You are the first other person I have heard that attributes some of the differences to biomechanical differences of the populations. And the part about the legg clothing I had never thought about before 👍
Such an awesome video, well done
Great straight forward overview of the contrasting martial art styles or viewpoints.
Great video. Very informative and I like that you research the history and won’t favor one particular style over another. I practice Xingyiquan and Tai Chi for for the past 10 plus years plus and I really appreciate the videos you put out about martial arts. Keep up the great work.
Very nicely done I trained in Wah lum a northern mantis style and we spent most of our time practicing many elaborate forms but I wanted to learn close quarters combat so I switched to Wing Chun were we spend most of our time learning blocking attacks and striking back with lightning speed
Loved this! Keep it up
This video was actually better than I've expected... most yt channels don't really know what they are talking about.. to add a bit more information, the term Zhong guo wushu (中国武术) was established after the 1949 by the new government and it mostly represents the "modern wushu"... chinese martial arts people refer to the kung fu styles by it's name (shaolin kung fu, ba gua zhang and so on), but during the history it had many names - in the first republic 1911 - 1949 it was called Guo shu (国术), in Han dynasty it was Bing Ji Qiao (兵技巧)，in Qin dynasty Shou Bo (手搏), in Tang and Song dynasty Bian (鞭), and Qing and Ming dynasty Wu Yi (武艺)...
Northern styles do involve more body slams, like in Bajiquan. Theres a lot of grinding and rooting down to the ground to assume an immovable position.
I like this overview. Thanks
Shuai Jiao also
This was a great video.
Nice history lesson! I would like to see a tee shirt for the Korean Art of Hapkido!
really interesting, thank you
I practice kung Fu, so I’m defs open to more Kung Fu centered videos
Very Interesting
Thank you so much
Shuai Chiao also is present in the North and South.
Interesting video. I'd love to see a video on the differences between Shaolin and Wudang Kung-fu training, their arts and methods.
This is an interesting video. As you mentioned there's a lot of ways you can categorize Chinese martial arts. So I understand this is for simplicity, but it's interesting that you would choose Northern and South Mantis as the example. Typically what we categorize as Northern Kung Fu come from or Mandarin speaking areas, and Southern Kung Fu comes from more Cantonese speaking areas. Southern Mantis was actually created by the Hakka people. A nomadic group in China descendant from the Hans. They traveled from northern China to Southern China and even as far as Vietnam. Due to being nomadic, their styles, culture and language tend to be distinct from the rest of China, while being influenced by many areas of china. That being said, Southern Praying Mantis is just called that state in the West. So while I understand the video, despite the name, I'm not sure that Southern Mantis is the best example of a Southern Kung Fu system because of it's Hakka roots. Still great video though. Learned a lot.
I picked it specifically because of the name and to highlight that despite being called the same thing they are two completely different arts. Yes, Southern Mantis is more nomadic, but it shares a lot of commonality with the attributes of southern styles. Other examples may have been better, but these two are often intermixed and thought it was good to showcase two arts that had nothing to do with each other.
@@ArtofOneDojo Nonetheless it was a great video and you really made your point well either way. Keep it up!! Like I said, I learned a lot from this one.
As a practitioner of Karate and Aikido I'd love to know more about in what way Japanese Budo have influenced Okinawan martial arts.
Our next episode is a comparison between Japanese and Okinawan karate :)
@@ArtofOneDojo Nice! Looking forward to it 😊 thanks
My first martial arts experience was northern seven star mantis Kung Fu and the very best person to ask information about would be Sifu Raul Ortiz from New York. Lot of similarities to Ed Parker Kenpo. Looks like you've lost some weight 👍
Southern style is almost exclusively Shaolin and Buddhist, except for E-mei, (pronounced Er-may) which was originally Taoist but later coverted to Buddhism. Choy Li Fatt is also an odd child, because it has Long-fist techniques in their routines.
Northern styles are almost exclusively Long-fist (长拳 or Changquan) except for Xingyiquan, and they are often associated with the Taoist and Muslim communities in the North.
Shuai Jiao has the most grappling and is northen
To post a question to you though: Bajiquan is a northern style yet their premise is not using Northern principles. How do you classify this then since you’re using geography as a the premise for differences?
That's a fair question, and I really tried to stress in the video that this isn't a one size fits all approach but rather a general classification that has become popular. That being said, Bajiquan may not share all principles of "Northern" styles, they definitely do share a lot of attributes.
I understand it's for closer range fighting, but looking at the forms, they are wide and sweeping and cover a lot of ground. Grand circular arm movements, deep stances with far reaching strikes, and a lot of footwork in sync with upper body striking. Those are elements "mostly" seen in the north.
Compare that to the forms you see in Wing Chun, where the first firm alone is pretty much just wrist and hand movement.
It's a very fair question and that's why I stress people judge arts on their own merits specifically because there is a lot of gray area.
Nah, Bajiquan is a typical Northern Longfist style. The odd child is actually Xingyiquan, which is very compact.
This is the legendary reasons. But not the full story.
damn, your videos keep getting bigger and bigger. I hope there would be a super like which you could give only once a month and this would have received it
I'm not sure what you're asking here. A super like? They have that feature, it's called "Thanks" under the video. As far as bigger and bigger, we've done big topics before but this is the first of several new Art History videos we have coming. I really hope people enjoy them :)
@@ArtofOneDojo lol, sorry there was a Major typo in my comment, that's why it was a bit confusing.
I tried to say your vids get better and better
I think this was a good video as a start, but many of the things you said about Southern styles seemed more focused on Hakka styles. It's worth looking at things like Hung Ga, Jow Ga, and Choy Li Fut, because they all have some degree of Northern Shaolin influence in them, and you'll see that their stances and kicks, particularly in Choy Li Fut, can look pretty Northern.
That's a fair point, which is why we tried to say this was a very general classification at best. There are definitely blurred lines. However, to be fair...if you're citing southern samples that have "northern influences"...isn't that acknowledging that the general attributes are from the north?
@@ArtofOneDojo You're right there, but my point comes from the fact that when you talk about Southern Kung Fu, the first styles that leap to many minds, especially in the western world, are things like Hung Ga or Choy Li Fut rather than things like Southern Crane or Mantis, which are comparatively obscure/rare. If I had to contrast HG or CLF with Northern styles (setting aside influence) it would be to do with power generation in some ways, with a strong emphasis on rotational power generation through the legs and hips (very pronounced in CLF strikes like the sao chui or gwa chui) which can be contrasted with the more linear movements of something like Bajiquan, or even with the circular movements of Bagua, which are more to do with positioning than power generation as far as I can tell. For the most part, I'd agree that kicks tend to be lower in Southern styles, even the ones with a Northern touch. In CLF I rarely kicked above the waist, and I find my current style of Jow Ga to be similar in that regard. I also learned some Northern Shaolin forms, and I'd say that the biggest difference I felt was that they were more 'showy' than my CLF or Jow Ga stuff, and the distance between form and application seemed larger on average than in Jow Ga in particular.
Hakka people moved from the North to the South in a diaspora all over into south east Asia.
If you would talk about shotokan Karate, is there some influence of the Judo and the Kendo about the karate promoted by Yoshitaka Funakoshi ?
I'd also split arts along the "study/combat" axis
I practice both Nothern and Southern shaolin kung fu
Legs of the North, Fists of the South is a common phrase, also most southern styles adopt a sleeveless shirt when training. Northern (6 harmony) mantis is different from Southern (7 star) mantis but not hugely.
Someday I'd like to see Martial Artists from North Shaolin and South Shaolin unite and combine their arts together. Speaking of North Shaolin, is there any reason why Wu Tang Martial Artists left North Shaolin?
In alot of ways Ed Parker did that when he created american Kenpo.
Lol i practice Choy Li Fut in the Bay Area (: when you read it out loud i yelled "Yo" lol
Basically Correct 🥱
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Rooted stance, powerful strikes with minimal movement, sensitivity drills, more grappling focus, that sounds like Taijiquan (Chen style) to me lol. Supposedly Northern style though, not sure why it seems more southern by description.
That's why it is a generality at best and there is a lot of overlap. If you compare it to a lot of southern forms, you can still see differences.
Shuai Jiao has the most grappling and is northern.
OG norteños and sureños
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Environment Matters
Southern mantis is a venomous form.
Northern mantis is a filial/bushido form.
☯️TANG Soo Do 😊
Northern kung fu is more hand weapons. Southern kung fu is more foot weapons. Hand weapon, a weapon held in the hand. Foot weapon, a weapon so large you must stand behind it. So, North kung fu is different than south kung fu. As opposed by offensive and defensive standards between the two.
Errr, "Northern feet, Southern hands".
This was covered by monkey steals peach a few years back. Head to his youtube channel for more indepth into the north and south kunfu systems.
Uh, I practice a paradigmatically Northern style, Ba Gua Zhuan. My teacher also teaches Taiji and Xing Yi which originate in the North. One of the assistants does Shuai Jiao wrestling. All of these are close-in, non-acrobatic systems. A lot of your handwaving about genetics and diet and clothing should not be taken seriously
This is why I said at the very beginning that this was very general at best. There is a lot of gray area but North and South is the most common way Kung Fu systems are divided and the reasons in this video are the most common reasons for that division. Again speaking very generally and not definitively.
Wait, I don’t think xingyi is northern is it?
Yes, it's considered a northern style in general.
@@ArtofOneDojo woah! I didn’t know that! That brings a lot into light for me thanks!
@@ArtofOneDojo
Yes
And there r 100s of different
Styles of
Hsingi...
This style is the common thread between
Shotokan and Wing chun
No Chinese martial art will "isolate the hand and foot motions from each other" (3:20).
The idea of so-called "internal" arts, no matter where they originated, is to develop (in volume and elasticity) the fascia to enable to body to work as a coordinated whole (partly to minimise "brute" force). Thus, when you move the hand, you are also pulling on the fascia of the feet, even when standing still: There is always a coordination, never an isolation.
I acknowledge that I may be misinterpreting what you say at 3:20.
I'm not convinced about the North = big stances / South = small stances. Choy Li Fat, Hung Gar, Hood Khar Pai are southern arts and all have low, wide stances and big hand movements.
I think there is too much technical overlap between the various Chinese systems to say that there is a true North/South divide on a technical level. In much the same way that they Shaolin/Wudang divide was an artificial categorisation invented in the early 20th century. People like labels, so they label things. In many cases, the label comes first and the distinction comes from the label, not the art.
Engaging body parts and moving body parts are different. What I was referring to was a direct comparison between the forms of northern and southern styles. In general, norther styles with employ footwork and kicks along with and array of hand work. Southern styles, such as Wing Chun, do not. They will isolate their stance and typically focus on a particular element at a time. This doesn't mean they aren't using their core or engaging other tissues, but isolation just means focus is on one element.
I agree there is too much overlap to define the split on a technical level. That's the first thing I said in the video that there are too many ways Chinese arts can be classified, but on a "general" basis North and South is the most commonly used category. There is a lot of grey area in that, but in the big picture there are trends present.
@@ArtofOneDojo We clearly have a different definition of "motion", which is fine. Mine includes the internal motions of the fascia. I assume your definition only covers actually displacing the foot. Let's go with that.
"Southern styles, such as Wing Chun, do not [employ footwork and kicks along with an array of hand work]".
This simply not true.
To use Wing Chun as the exemplar of all Southern styles is misleading. I assume not deliberately misleading, rather due to a lack of exposure to Southern styles.
I don't think the comments section allows URLs, so I'll provide some video titles and codes that anyone can search for:
- Killer Choy Lee Fut Form (nm_DuRzmgGc)
- 2021: Tribute to the late Ch'ng Ewe Cheng: Luohanquan (FZ5b7dSdK9c)
- World Budo Sai 2012 Masters Demo - Master Zhang Xiao Feng (VuMrWLcEqG0)
- 南宗少林蔡家拳-羅漢踩身 (Hv_uleojTjY)
- Hung Gar Kung Fu - Plum Blossom Form - Luke Kretschmann (GHsoIYQt8IM)
While Wing Chun (which *does* employ footwork) is possibly the most famous Southern style, its fame does not make it an exemplar.
By the way, which Southern style do you practise?
@@WuzuquanSpain I feel like we're at the point of picking at semantics. We can have different definitions of motion but I'm specifically referring to the common legwork of sweeps, steps, and kicks while preforming upper body strikes and arm movements. That is more common in the northern styles but of course there is going to be overlap. Observing Northern forms vs Southern forms, there are very clear observable trends between the two.
But again, that's why I was extremely clear on saying this is a generality at best and that each art has it's own merits. The intention was to avoid this particular nitpicking because of course there are deeper levels to look at.
There is no clear line in the sand, but it's very common to group arts by Northern and Southern, and this was just an attempt to explain why people often make the distinction and what some of the common attributes were.
@@ArtofOneDojo In my previous comment, I went with your idea of “motion” precisely to avoid nitpicking, so we are using the same language there.
But challenging the explicit, and erroneous, statement that Southern styles do not use footwork and kicks in conjunction with hands is not a question of semantic differences.
So, which Southern style do you practise?
@@WuzuquanSpain It is semantics when you are trying to make a general statement something technically definitive. " statement that Southern styles do not use footwork and kicks in conjunction with hands" I did not say that, I said that GENERALLY hands and footwork are often isolated. There is a difference. Looking at Wing Chun, Southern Mantis, and other southern styles, steps, kicks, sweeps, and grand footwork is GENERALLY isolated from hand work. In the Northern styles like Northern Mantis, Eagle Claw, Taijiquan, you see a lot of circular and winding arm movements in conjunction with the elaborate footwork.
What I said is not erroneous, you're trying to pin it down to exact specific technical definitions, when I CLEARLY stated in the video that the lines often blur, styles are often grouped by these attributes, but that it's not absolute and there is overlap. You acknowledged that you may be interpreting "motion" differently than I stated, and you stated YOUR examples which are different than mine but you're still digging is if you're arguing on purpose. You can disagree on the definitions and examples all you want, it doesn't make what I said erroneous.
I myself personally do not study Kung Fu, but this script was written in conjunction with several Kung Fu practitioners of various styles, and they agree with what I've said. In fact, so far out of 11,000 views you are the ONLY one arguing this point.
Kenpo has a Chinese background, and we also use the term "isolation". If we isolate our upper body in a form, that doesn't mean we aren't moving, or using, or ignoring our lower body. It means there is an implied FOCUS on the upper half. Arguing that there is motion because you're still utilizing fascia in the feet and energy in the core IS arguing semantics.
You know exactly what I am referring to, you acknowledge that you did, and you're still arguing. Exactly what answer are you looking for?
A punch is a punch
A kick is a kick
A throw is a throw
The method one uses to achieve success in these matters is irrelevant.
One will either succeed or act again.
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This channel went full AI. AI graphics, AI art t shirts. Cool video tho
No, we have quite a bit of stock photos that we've purchased. We use AI when we can't find stock photos of certain things. We pay for accounts for stock photos, videos, and AI for when we need something customized and can't find it already produced. We also rely on a LOT of creative common photos and videos (which is why you'll see me putting credit tags on images and videos). We have a pretty good balance of all media, we try to choose the best to tell the story.
I thìnk it's gungfu/gỗng fu not '' zhongguo wushu''
Gung/Gong Fu is just the more appropriate way to spell/say "Kung Fu". "Zhongguo Wushu" is Chinese for "Chinese Martial Arts".
Kung Fu/Gong Fu doesn't mean "Martial Arts". It means a skill acquired through hard work.
Karate is just badly done Southern Crane
_runs_
_hides under the bed_
You might want to stay under there for a while lol.
Master Roshi is under the bed with you. He's going to show you his powerful Kamehameha with his manly hands.
@@peterkhew7414Ooooo, BABY!
only shuai jiao works
Many arts work. It depends on the person, timing, and situation. Context is everything.
That comment isn't true...
Shiiao jao isn't a style.
It's the chinese word .
.for wrestling grappling
All chinese styles were based on
Punching kicking grappling wrestling
Its just that over time many styles developed ..
And developed more and more..
Eventually losing the core method's
So most kung fu clubs
Don't no anything about grappling
Only forms and mobility stretching method's
No
Concept on actual combat training
do not be restricted or constrained by tradition. Developed what is useful to you; and remove what you know are not for real combat in the street. adapt what is useful in classical boxing and how they evade punches like bob and waive combine with parry or block like in Karate. then counter punch with your weaponized fist- that is the close fist with extended knuckles: naka daka ken or ippon ken or use open hand strike like finger strikes. but they donot train in these anymore because it is harsh and painful to hardened them. Kick at hip level only to the bladder or groin for frontal kick and at the floating ribs or kidney area for round house kick using the tip of the toe of the shoes. Use the in-step when striking at the lower part of the limbs. Do not kick high because you might be fighting one who is very good in kicking defense- scooping or bulldozing you while one of your foot is kicked high.
In fact, no one speaks Chinese. One could only speak a dialect of Chinese. You were referring to Putonghua. Chinese is a written language.
My Tiger Kung Fu...is better than yours...I don't think you're good enough...to avenge your master....
And Sanda is also Kung Fu. So is the older, Sanshou.
SHOW US KUMITE FROM THIS MASTERS.
NO EXHIBIT SKILLS.
1. No need to yell, take off your caps locks.
2. This isn't a fight episode, it's a history episode talking about how systems developed.
3. These people DID use these arts to fight with at some point.
4. Open your mind a little bit and appreciate what others do.
@@ArtofOneDojo
Great video.
Good overview
Many dont realise
How complex chinese styles r
Both useless.
Only when you have that attitude.
Not true
..none r useless
Maybe a useless school
Most of the kung fu in the west is poorly done
And a lot of weak training came to the west
Hence y a lot don't work
This is nothing but propaganda. You have no clue what MartialArts is. It was originally called Chu'uan Fa WuShu Cantonese (Ken Fat Gung-fu in Mandarin) and after it was banned from China along with its progenitors it became what is called to this day PaQua Kuntao Style. You do not even know what the old words mean Wu Shu.
武 - "wu" literally means "Martial" and 術 "shu" literally means art or technique. The comment was to specify that the word "Kung Fu" didn't means martial arts as most people think, but to differentiate it from Wushu, which DOES translate to Martial Arts. This wasn't an entomological study of the linguistic history of the terminology of the Chinese language, so congratulations on missing the entire point of the video.
There is no propaganda here, do you even understand what that word means? I'm describing general characteristics of different styles, I'm not pushing any agenda here. Your comment is incorrect.
I know what Martial Arts are just fine thank you.
@@ArtofOneDojo I don't know who you are, nor do I give a dam. So you know what Wu means but do you know what Martial means or have ever seen it? I don't doubt that you saw the meaning of Wu Xhu from something I wrote bc my point is you do not know Martial Art or Wu Shu, punc! If you think you do then you are a liar!
If anything your DA didn't understand what you were displaying bc you know no martial art. What do you know that is Martial Art? (Name it - I dare you) Who taught you? You cannot learn Martial Arts unless you do from a Triad or Tong. You are propaganda!
Nor was this your comment -
"The comment was to specify that the word "Kung Fu" didn't means martial arts as most people think, but to differentiate it from Wushu, which DOES translate to Martial Arts". Who told you this? (liar!)
Agreed this is how it's explained by those from china
Northern and
Southern styles
The word kung fu ..is known..for fighting
But in the west
Wushu means performance
Not realising that wushu
Means to fight
@@nicholasgreen339 Is that what it means now in the world of JKD, UFC, MMA. I agree in attitude but not belief bc to be honest it really is a matter of Chinese Ancient Shaolin Traditions. On the one point I wanted to enlighten you on is the use of the word "Style". My Gung-fu Instructor told me that a "Style" has to have 5 forms. Everything else is a (self defense) "system" performed by Practitioners not Martial Aritsts.
He said that it must always refer to the Original Shaolin that evolved (from 36 chambers, forms and weapons) to the 5 Animals the 1st level of true Martial Arts Now. (the Dragon, Tiger, Snake, Leopard and Crane) He said it takes a lifetime commitment to each of the animals, and they are all Chinese Triads.
He said unless you have been taught by Black Dragon which is 2nd level Kuntao. (and he was while under the Grandmaster teaching him 3rd level) But having been in Martial Arts for over 40 years I have seen how things change in vernacular.
But also when you say "Wu Shu" which has always been Northern from Central (in name) as the founding place of the founder (Chu'uan Fa) "Wu Shu" (Cantonese for Mandarin Gung-fu). Back in Lee's days, no one could say they knew "Wu Shu" (from North or South) if they did not know it from Southern China Royal Palace.
From my perspective, Wu Shu was taken out with Martial Arts to preserve Shaolin. But is always spoken of, location-wise, as Shaolin. So through that change "Chu'uan Fa Wu Shu" became "PaQua Kuntao Style".
But all Southern China (5 kung-fu families) are considered 'fighting art forms' as opposed to Northern China at Shaolin which have always been "flowery forms" bc they will not build chi like only Gung-fu can.
Aside from Southern China (kung-fu families) Southern Gung-fu (bc it is domiciled there) true meaning was always it being fashioned to break bones, maim, and take life. That is not the same as saying Northern Shaolin (though the forms are flowery) it is still used for fighting and competitions. None of that is original Gung-fu.
For instance, if you would have asked a Northern Shaolin Practitioner, do you know Wu Shu? He would have had to say, no! I know white crane, etc. Nothing in Shaolin now takes more than 3-5 years to learn. But again the way Wu Shu is spoken today is completely without Martial Art past knowledge. Even though they are Chinese.
The last issue combines a few others bc (w re to 'fighting') "all fighting Systems". And that is 'a self defense' is learning how to fight just like boxing is.
But Gung-fu has never been referred to (at least not in the Gung-fu federation) as meaning to "fight". But nobody really cares these days. What did you train in Nic?