SHŌGUN Clip - “The Barbarian Will Stay In Sight” (2024)
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In 17th century Japan, shipwrecked British sailor John Blackthorne rises from outsider to samurai, while being used as a pawn in Japanese leader Toranaga's struggle to reach the top of the ruling chain.
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Somehow its funny how both sides look at the other as barbarians and wildes 😂
It is the way of people.
The original word for Barbarians pretty much just meant "people who don't speak our language"
@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin That's a much nicer way to put it than the intent. It would be better to translate it as, "People who talk funny." or "People who sound stupid when they talk."
@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosinlol, no it isn’t.
@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin it means not greek speaker ( ancient greek) bar bar
Would the Japanese of that time period be speaking understandable Japanese to a modern Japanese? Languages tend to change over time so can anyone comment about how the Japanese of the time period would sound to a modern Japanese? Are they using period appropriate Japanese or is it modern sounding to living Japanese? Or has the Japanese language not undergone much change since the period depicted?
there using period appropriate Japanese. they hired people just for this.
I am Japanese.
Although it is quite different from modern Japanese, ordinary Japanese people can understand it.
I don't have the knowledge to know if it actually reproduces the words of that era in a satisfactory manner.
Not much change since the period depicted. English is actually rather fluid as languages go so it changes over time. A lot of other languages are more static. Modern Japan's only language changes are for concepts that simply didn't exist in feudal Japan, like phones, computers, and other things. Often the English word is simply inserted in Japanese in these cases.
Thank you all for your answers.
The producer/Shogun said it was equivalent to present day English and Shakespearean English.
Was this all shot in the rainey season ?
Vancouver Island, British Columbia is very damp. 😉
It rains for 3 months in the year in Japan.🌧️ So most likely yes.😁
Rainey? You don't even know how to spell 🤣
I like second wife of Tobonara because she look like wife of Oda Nobunaga
And Britain leads the way !!! 😂
Having been a fan of the 1980 version, ( with Richard Chamberlain and co.... ) I am struggling to consider the 2024 version to be as good as the earlier one... Maybe it become entertaining, in the remaining 6 episodes.. We shall see !
Shakespeare has thousands of iterations
@@bjornjensen1309 So sorry... I don't think that Mr. William Shakespeare had much to do with ' Shogun '......?
I don't like the actor who plays John Blackthorne. Don't like him at all. He looks stupid. Much better was Richard Chamberlain!
@@senzanome7801 Agree. Chamberlain's facial expressions were great and conveyed a lot of what he was feeling, especially his "WTF" face. New guy looks like he's forcing his expressions too much. Maybe its the director's fault but he seems to be the only one doing it. The Japanese actors are great.
@@Selendeki in fact!
The issue for me is the blue contact lenses don’t understand why they needed to use them except to emphasise his differences being a blue eyed devil otherwise I like it I think it’s truer to the times than the 80s version
The lesson I've learned is that white men get Asian women in Asian countries, but it is not the same for our Asian brothers. :)
世界を奴隷にした白人。日本は能力主義
To be fair Shogun is basically the first time this was done in popular media at least to my knowledge. Everyone has just been copying James Clavell ever since.
@@dillonhunt1720 First time? LMAO. To be fair? LMAO. You either lived under a rock or never watched popular media. The White Savior trope exists for reasons, and it would not even be a thing if it only happened once. Again, LMAO.
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458 First of all the white savior trope and the white guy getting the asian girl are two completely different things. Second of all you misread somehow because I never said it only happened once, I just said James Clavell did it first "to my knowledge". Third, name an example of white guy getting the asian girl in media before James Clavell wrote Shogun in 1975.
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458
"The White Savior trope exists for reasons"
Yes, and all those reasons consist of the racism living in the vile individuals who argue 'white savior' is even a trope.
once again a disparagement of the original
Anyone who read Clavell's classic work on Japanese history and culture cannot be impressed by this re-make. I wondered about it and finally watched it. Sadly, the re-written screenplay fails in many ways. Generally, it is written by a woman and let's face it, they just write differently from men. She turned it from an historical adventure novel into a Hallmark romance novel crossed with the typical feminist crap and left wing tropes we see everywhere nowadays. The woman interpreter was not the main character in the novel, she was the love interest. Japanese culture at that time was a cruel despotism and the lower classes were no better than slaves. The Catholic church (villains in this version) are portrayed as thieves. Actually, they played a pivotal role in bringing civilization to a nation of very clean barbarians (in the true sense of the word). Women did not fight in battles and were not assassins since they were not allowed to touch weapons. Naturally, in this version they are the heroes. Welcome to freshman feminism 101.
The words kunoichi and onna-musha should be enough to embarrass your clueless jibberjabber.
Call himself 'western gent'.
Is a papist of the ungodly religion that worships people in spite of the bible and signed the Reichskonkordat 1933, with a pope who argues Putin should just be given whole countries to exterminate.
Ignores how most of Europe was locked in a brutal war of liberation against papism at this time
Makes 4 language errors per sentence, even though it's his 1st language and he speaks no others.
So take it easy there Tucker Carlson. After reading such nonsense I really to watch a few clips of your compatriots getting laid out by Ukrainian defenders.
貴方には申し訳ないと思う。
しかし、原作小説は余りにも歴史的に不正確です。
もちろん、エンターテインメントに詳細な正確さは求めません。
しかし、私達日本人は余りにも不正確で幻想的な原作小説は、真面目に観ることは出来ません。
もちろん、それを非難しません。
私達日本人が、アメリカやヨーロッパを正確に描写出来るとも思わないからです。
しかし、これだけは覚えておいて欲しい。
当時の日本は、１００年間も内戦状態でした。
戦える者は、子供でも女性でも戦いました。
あらゆる階層の人間が武装していました。
父親と息子が戦いました。妻が夫を殺しました。農民が領主を打倒しました。それが日本の内乱の時代です。
「戦国時代」と呼びます。
その「戦国時代」を象徴する言葉があります。
「下剋上」と言います。
意味は「下層が上層を打倒する」です。
I'm sorry. Subordination of women was imported from modern times with militarism. Shogun family(Fuziwara)status rose because they married their daughter to emperor and there was a system in which the emperor lived with his wife's family house at that Heian era. you know the creation of Japan begins with a shaman queen😊Taikou(Hideyoshi)era It was a free period when ordinary people wore silk and flashy fashon was popular they call “Kabukimono“✨
@@MsCyou0157 I know this must be interesting. How kind of you to notice my simple thoughts. May God bless you and bring peace to this troubled world.
Somebody should have done better research of clothing at that time.... it's a little strange what everyone is wearing.
Thank you for your vigilance. Please detail the inaccuracies in the attire of the characters.
@@nishikawa7504 can i ask ?
do know Azuma Clan ?
They fly the specialist team from Japan to do the clothing stuff, i think you are the problem
I can't explain what is wrong. It just looks a little different than what was worn. I think the colors are modern. It is not wrong just different. It's like eating sushi in Japan vs in Western countries. It's sushi, it taste good, but something is off, something is changed or different. That is how the clothing is... It's not what they wore back then, but it is. I think it's more of a modern take.
@@phanhuyduc2395Ok. I know what it is. The colors, patterns, and designs or what they wore are different. And the designs of the clothes are more simplified. Japanese people back then wore multiple layers of robes which made everything more full. Plus the wrapping and tying methods are too simple. The hair styles are also more modernized. Great designs, but very modern. It would have probably taken too much time and money to wear what they actually wore back then. Especially the clothing of the warrior class.
Fake.
A fake fictional story does that make it real?
@@kencarse3677 Ha ha ha ! ... Far too clever for the common people !
Yes, sadly it seems there is very few actual footage from the 16th century... I can't understand why...
fake comment
@@Pyrodingue Ah... That is because Mr. William Henry Fox Talbot would not make his first box camera for a few hundred years yet !