The Englishman Teaches Fine Naval Gunnery
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2024
- Today, we're diving deep into the captivating world of feudal Japan with scenes from Shogun Episode 4. Our Englishman, John, takes center stage. His expertise in cannon gunnery becomes a valuable asset. But First, let's talk about the cinematography. The way the camera frames the cannon scenes is nothing short of mesmerizing. The attention to historical accuracy is commendable. The gunnery scenes transport us bsck to 17th-century feudal Japan. But beware! Toranaga's trust is shattered when an unexpected turn of events occurs. #englishhistory #japanhistory #historyvideo
What are your theories for Episode 5? Leave your thoughts in the comments!
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Title: Shogun (2024)
Genre: Adventure, Drama, History
Streaming Platforms: Hulu & FX
Synopsis: When a mysterious European ship is found marooned in a nearby fishing village, Lord Yoshii Toranaga discovers secrets that could tip the scales of power and devastate his enemies.
Starring: Hiroyuki Sanada, Cosmo Jarvis, Anna Sawai, Tadanobu Asano, and more.
Rating: TV-14
IMDb Rating: 9.2/10 
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I wouldn't have survived long in feudal Japan. 😂
I would have probably been beheaded within a few days
I believe just a few people did.
I'd be boiling soup in a couple of minutes
Yup, me probably insults a samurai haircut and get beheaded immediately 😂
Not if you get shot by a cannon.
Everything about this production is impressive.
Its a stupid adaptation of the book. Want to write your own story, then go off and do it. Don't pretend it has anything to do with the book.
In the 1980's series, the characters had more passion, the story line was believable and actually made sense.
@@zedeyejoe You're entitled to your opinion...just because you're an idiot who wouldn't know a good production from Tik-Tok video doesn't mean you can't have an opinion. I read Shogun while I was in saturation on a dive, I re=read it several times after that. I majored in Asian Studies and Literature. On my bookshelf behind me right now, sits the three-volume set "A History of Japan" by George Sansom. I am very familiar with the works of Papinot, Aston and Draeger as well as many Japanese authors. I speak and read Japanese. I am very familiar with Japanese culture, history and literature...so I know a little bit about the Tokugawa period ...go ahead and reply.
except for historical accuracy. like this scene for example.
@@zedeyejoe Oh please, the 1980s adaption is dated and highly unrealistic in many aspects. Nostalgic sure, but nothing that held up to the test of time.
@@saladspinner3200 Just better. Sticks to the book instead of the nonsense of todays Shogun. And guess what I actually cared about the characters in the 80's series. None of todays actors managed to make me care about them.
Now you can tell us what you felt was unrealistic about the 1980's series. Statements without reasons are pointless.
That shout of "lie" at 2:48 as impressive. So much emotion tied into one word.
As it should, it's a very important part!
He is not saying "lie" but iie (pronounced as "ee-ye") that is "no!" in japanese (a quite rude way to deny a request)
@@lucarossi8442 And in english it is spelled Iie when it's just one word just as how "stop" becomes "Stop!"
@@TheWorldsprayer no
@@Fgstayyy literally all you did was uncapitalize an I.
Of course in the book Blackthorne taught them how land battles were fought (as he had fought in Holland).
aah, wow, so until that moment the japanese had never fought in their entire history, it was an englishman who taught them how to fight hahaha
@@carloko08 Japanese had not developed muskets, so has no experience using them. So Blackthorne showed them European tactics.
Samurai also did also not fight well against the Mongols. Mongol tactics were about winning, not honour.
@@zedeyejoe they did have some experience they had been making muskets for 50 years due to the Portuguese
@@zedeyejoeJapan literally have the largest amount of muskets in the world by the late 1500s. A quarter of their invasion force to Korea was made out of matchlock gunners. Around 30-40.000 man, equipped with Tanegashima muskets.
If you think Japan doesn't have experience with muskets during the Sengoku Jidai, you'd be laughed out of the room.
@@RayshiaRoman Yes but the Samurai did not have the experience of European warfare.
We Europeans are really very good at killing people, we have been doing it for a long time.
Japanese first battle with muskets was battle of Nagashino. Massed muskets, used against Samurai fighting 'old style' .
The mounting civil war in Japan and the opposition of various feudal lords against the Bakufu during the Late Tokugawa shogunate led to serious rearming until the 1867 Boshin War. At the same time, technological progress was extremely fast in the West, with the introduction of the rifle, breech-loading and even repeating firearms, so that Japanese armies were equipped with composite technologies, with weapons imported from countries as varied as France, Germany, the Indians, Britain and the United States, and coexisting with traditional Tanegashima guns. The advantage of Western civilisations in waging wars.
I'm a simple man...
No need explanations, understandable have a nice day...
She had sex with John right
Hell Yeah brother!
Fellow naval gunnery enjoyer
-Can you teach tactics that isn't 40 years old?
-I ain't a soldier... but I'm a sailor, how about fine British naval gunnery?
=>Teach field artillery instead, ground warfare tactic that existed for more than a century... also, isn't he a pilot instead of a gunner?
I’d say Naval gunnery is somewhat related to Field gunnery too, this is because the ways of aiming and to fire a cannon was similar and he must’ve been experienced when it came to land tactics.
Its actually pretty easy to translate naval gunnery to land gunnery.
Principles the same, different platform from which ordinance is being fired. #UBIQUE
Naval gunnery is quite literally field gunnery at the time, since age of sails warship are basically just floating gun batteries.
He's teaching the use of ballistics. Math is still math and so applying naval gunnery techniques to a land cannon makes total sense.
"... they left him to the dogs that had come up from the village."
Eh, Japanese Navy had their asses handed to them in Imjin wars. So, they knew canon's could be devasting & accurate, but did not know how.
Not quite, the Japanese devastated the Koreans on land but lacked the naval logistical capabilities for the invasion. This series trivializes how well the Japanese adapted to firearms before the Korean invasion ever happened.
@@abca4883 extra info: the japanese adapted to infantry based gun tactics however lacked tech and knowledge of cannonry, especially at sea. this is where the koreans excelled. as a peninsular hermit kingdom they only had skirmishes with northern nomadic tribes but constantly fought off pirates in their waters. what saved korea from the japan was their ability to significantly disrupt japanese maritime operations. while the more exprienced japanese forces beat korean land forces, the korean navy beat the japanese navy. faced with supply-issues the japanese could not keep up land-based operations and were slowly pushed back.
Yi Sun-Sin moment
the imjin wars were during the rule of hideyoshi, which is right before this show started.
@@idleeidolonextra info: the imjin wars were unpopular amongst the daimyos and ended with the death of hideyoshi. since the battle of sekigahara was only 2 years after the costly imjin war, the western daimyos, who supported ishido, haven't had the time to replenish their troops. this made it easier for the eastern daimyos, who supported tokugawa, since the eastern provinces didn't participate in the imjin war.
My theory is that Anna Sawai is in the top 10 most beautiful women on Earth. I can't seem to see beyond that theory. I'd never heard of her or seen her before this show. On a scale of 1 - 10, she's a 2,000
She was in Ninja Assassin (2009)
She is also in the monarch show on apple tv as well ELITE woman
Anyone here looking for the theme song that was running in the background while blackthron teaches them about canons
I have watched E01-3 and they are all excellent!!!
I think we can revive Master and Commander....
This is why hundreds of years of years later, Japan in the Meji restoration got smart and realized that if they didn't update EVERYTHING when it came to their military, industrialization, etc that foreign powers would rule over them forever. So they did update and by the early 20th century, they were able to invade and colonize a lot of eastern Asia.
Sad you cut out Yabushige laughing in delight
Wait why were they suddenly attacked? What’s happening?
it's heavily edited between two different scenes. not a good representation of the show
Heavy edited to prevent getting squashed by copyright infringement
Some parts of the book where excluded. Expect the series to end in the exclusion of foreigners. Big part the fight between the Christian Lords and Toranaga Shogunate. Who will play Miamoto Musashi?
Jesus Herbert Walker Christ, this show does not hold back.
Let's be honest, we are all here for Anna Sawai
It is so funny samurai movie eventually. In this era, samurai family females never show up in the battle fields. Most of time, they are in their mansions.
2:30 Pretty sure even the Civil War-era rifled cannons (like the Armstrong guns) don't have this type of accuracy and power.
Modern artillery in 2024 (other than using terminally-guided munitions) does not have this accuracy.
If the 80s series was 'Flags of Our Fathers', this is 'Letters from Iwo Jima'. A remake, yet more than a remake
Letters from Iwo Jima wasn't even a remake of Flags of our Fathers. These two movies tell the same tale (of the same battle, that is) from opposite sides. Both movies were produced by Clint Eastwood.
Didnt Blackthorne fight in Holland?
I read the book years ago.
well the flintlocks he pulled out did not exist at that time ..that type of gun came much later
Ehh, contained charges for flintlock pistols on ships aren't entirely inncurate. Flintlock were invented and in use in the 16 century, and if in not mistake this took place in early 17th. You're thinking of the more complex rifles invented at the end of the 17th century, which no longer relied on an external flash pan. However, those didn't see mass adoption until advancements in smiting made it economical some decades later
Flintlocks took a long time before to replace matchlocks. More expensive.
Logical and intelligible
Why did this show have to end on a cliff hanger wtf
See? Trigonometry!
That's how Howard Hughes' CEO Noah Dietrich got his job (or so he claimed).
Was the spanish who taught the english
Actually the British had better Guns, and faster ships, at the time of the Spanish Armada. and chased off the Spanish who tried to sail home around Ireland but managed to lose half there fleet smashing into the Irish Coast, due to the Gulf stream
@@user-ur1qo4fp1fas i said , some years earlier the spanish instructed the english on how to be a navy .... look it up
One of the silliest scenes. The Japanese daimyos of the Kayushu and Oda Nobunaga had been using Chinese style handguns and artillery since the 1520s. The arrival of the Portuguese in the 1540s brought access to modern firearms and guns. By the time Shogun is set nobody needed some shipwrecked English sailor to teach them how to use either.
got to make the english look good and worth something
@@Descriptions568😂😂 cope harder ahaha how does using matchlock pistols and rifle regiments equate to the use of artillery and cannon tactics 😂😂 you lot who hate us really are just sad
@@Descriptions568 *humoured old lad, humoured at the fact you lessers have to cope this hard 😂
@@Descriptions568 keep trying lad ur English ancestry is rolling
Have you ever played Shogun 2 and tried to use cannons? They sucked hard. Anyone who can make cannonry aim better would be a great teacher
“wHeRe R aLL tHe bLaCkK pEe-pO?!?!?”
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Well, Yasuke is out of the picture already.
In ubisoft assassin's creed... 😂
nobody has said this?? bro is making up people to get mad at
On a cotton field? A ship? In Africa?
Shogun were ccp
The acting and the story was better in the 80s series.
That's exactly my point! The actor playing John Blackthorne is is unwatchable!
@@senzanome7801 Dull and seems to drift through the story.
@@xhagast exactly!
@@senzanome7801 Richard Chamberlain was at least ten times more expressive. This guy looks like Animaniacs' Chicken Wu. Zero personality.
You Americans and your individualism. This is a story about multiple characters, every character provides an attribute to the story, not the other way around. The point is the story, not the character. Get over yourselves Yanks.
They should put a couple more white guys in there
2nd 😇
1st.
Yo! What is that?!!!! I want one
Why aren't there any blacks in this film? - Woke people
The fact that there were actually people dumb enough to make complaints like that was hilarious.
Technicaly they could have mixed in one or two black eople on the shipwreck crew - it was a dutch ship after all and they employed plenty of blacks as sailors.
@@gediminaskucinskas6952 yeah you gonna need to site a source for that one, i aint heard of many black people serving in the dutch navy in the 1600s
Why even say this smh unreal yall people are so scared and stupid
@@Journey22405 This wasn't a navy ship, the best explanation of how black people could get to Japan is that ships that are far from home will sign on almost anyone to replace lost crewmen. This would not have been likely with the Erasmus because she didn't visit any friendly ports, but the Spanish or Portuguese would have taken on occasional blacks. Blackthorne was supposed to go to Nagasaki to find experienced sailors but it probably won't happen.
Barely any action in the show .
This looks like a shitty modern reinterpretation of the original.