I was SO WRONG about Squad
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Today, we're going to be diving back into Squad after the latest update and hotfix with the Infantry Combat Overhaul implemented. Initially, I was not a fan.
that's changed.
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Shouldn’t you try playing as a better equipped force, you might have more fun, or get better footage. My understanding of Squad is that the individual forces are not equally balanced at all.
Is this thing legit, I heard most Nootropics are pseuscience like essential oils but for nerds.
Will say we just won an insane superfob defense game and I get the changes. The gameplay was much more fun, paced and rewarding
Yes. Militia fobs are a blast to build and defend with the new supression 😂
this is exactly what the update is meant to do - force the cod csgo players to change their play style and forge a better gameplay environment with good communication and teamwork.
I mean the CSGO trope is kinda overdone at this point, but pretty solid point for players who didnt like the update.
@@WhyDoesYTUseHandlesNow there is a thing called gate keeping, and we are exactly trying to keep people like you out
cod yes but csgo no lol. I play CS and Squad and i play them totally differently lol
@@micaheiber1419it does make sense Kinda
A pretty big amount of CS players are pretty toxic
Yes. Did it work? No)
Yeah, surprisingly a game named "Squad" is meant to be played in a squad. How surprising 😅
Glad you've noticed how fun it can be. Granted, if you play with randos it's sometimes a gamble but I've had great SLs and teammates and when it works, it's an awesome PTSD simulator.
Yeah, I played the game for couple years with a community that put a lot of effort in trying to play it as a team game, so a little part of me dies whenever I see someone play it lone wolf like Battlefield or whatever.
I'm glad to see videos like this. I've been playing Squad for a long time and really lost interest in it up until this patch. There used to be a lot of mature players who would use team work when Squad originally released, but it slowly became a lot of ADHD cats that you had to yell over the mic to herd. Also the gameplay was lackluster considering it was whoever spotted pixels moving first with the quickest mouse reaction time always won.
Now you can literally be in the open, 20ft from someone and both be opening firing full auto and miss everything, run away, and reevaluate a defensive position, call in the squad to help, and really adds tension to the situation. Where before it was whoever placed the crosshairs on the head first.
Personally this brings a whole new experience to the game realm that stands out for it's attempt to be realistic. I personally played professional paintball throughout my 20s, and intended to go to the army at one point before a business took over all my free time, and the feel of this game is so much more similar to paintball than any other. I love using the AK with iron sights because it has the best reaction time, and along with the ammo bag, i go in and nade spam everyone the second we see any contact. People can't run away as fast, so throwing 2-6 granades while resupplying on your own ammo bag is like having a close quarter mortar.
Thank you for this video. It was really sad seeing a bunch of tactical gamers not like the update initially but I understand, except for PR, Now Squad, and Arma when you leave the default stamina which nobody does, the level of disconnection needed from a weapon for anything authentic, is completely unlike anything in the FPS space.
Your mouse is so precise and perfectly stable, and myour monitor doesn't move with the weapon without nasueting screen shake that wouldn't be irl. So yes it can feel weird and look unrealistic to have the weapon be so unstable versus other games, but between input methods and the perspective you have in game it has to be quite unstable looking, and you can feel the effect in the gameplay!
yeah feels almost hypocritical to see tactical gamers complain about realism lol
I think if they just added a way to Half aim in for scopes and what not that would be chill. That way you wouldn't be too accurate, but you could kinda look over your rifle and see a more accurate general direction of the rifle barrel.
Hey Tacti, love that you found the joy in this update :D
I did notice some stuff in the gameplay that you may or may not know:
I do want to let you know, you can run just as fast as a player without stamina, if you keep your stamina in the white and only do sprints when near full. This allows you to keep your stamina up at max nearly all the time and gives you that advantage in spontaneous engagements! It also allows you to use your stamina as an emergency tool to move faster when caught rather than being stuck at no stamina and sitting at the same speed running away.
I feel I can regularly perform well on the kill to death ratio stats with this and my engagements feel far less rng and more skilled or I messed up. There are some times you can even get away with a squad wipe but you have to be far more sneaky beaky and shoot the head once rather than a burst on an enemy. For some reason it seems like if you shoot a single shot no one knows at all where you came from and you can use the resulting chaos to pick off each member.
Hope any of this text offered insight and love the love man!
Its definitely alot better when u embrace the mechanics instead of rebelling against them
definitely more tweaking needed, but its a challenging and fun experience, and extra unforgiving on the strategic level
Glad to see you get into this game! Squad has a big old learning curve, but it’s awesome once you figure it out.
Glad, you liked it. How long was your session uncut? The "is it one of THEM or one of us?" situation accurately describes most of my encounters (and pre-death states), unless acting in a well organized squad. Playing as a medic really really helped me to raise situational awareness, though. Overall Squad seems to come along nicely.
I only get an hour or two at a time to play, unfortunately. This was about an hour and a half
W move from the devs. Theres no game like squad right now. And its great!
Project Reality would like a word with you
Graphics 😭😭😭😭😭@@OperatorMax1993
@@OperatorMax1993and pr runs so much better
@@OperatorMax1993pr is old
Installed it again recently. PR has a few aspects like Specialist rope, etc Air assets but in INF mechanics it can't win from Squad @@OperatorMax1993
0:18 stop sprinting everywhere and you'll have an easier time aiming, it's not that the game was made to be like a toddler, its that the average player acts like one... juust sayin, release the shift button and you'll align much faster.. I paused the video at 28sec to say this, then thought since you were saying these 'were' your thoughts, perhaps you're going to have better current thoughts and surely enough 0:58 you went straight up embracing the change.. Good for you.. I refused the play this before this overhaul, I hated squad in it's previous state but i love the new changes. I was always a slower paced player, only sprinting cover to cover or across streets.. if i'm not spotted or in a place where i can be spotted, there's no rush.. I'm happy you're giving people a good message about this update, lots of haters around currently, but people just gotta take a step back and not be so fuckin entitled. lol
5:40 is why they ruined this game. there no way a trained soldier would swing that corner and not be able to put his site on the enemy with that weapon sway and lose the eye relief on the scope that quick. They punish you way to much for moving. This game is fun for like 2 matches and then you just get annoyed from the shitty gun play.
cant believe someone isn't saying this, they need to tone it down a lot, and just punish players for draining their stamina and playing like its cod. close quarters have just turned into a spray and pray battle and its far from realism lmao. i timed it and it takes like 3-5 seconds to get a good sight picture depending on what sights you have, at full stamina. its just stupid nobody even somewhat trained is going to take that long to bring their gun up. im enjoying arma reforger a lot more because you can actually aim and still have to play tactical. doesn't feel like a 10 year old trying to shoot a gun. its hilarious because in squad, even pistols take forever to bring up as if the pistol weighs like 20 pounds it feels like police bodycam footage.
yeah, you can't judge it when you get stomped... people say its a "running simulator"
if they are lucky enough to get past their tiktok brains they realize it can provide literally the most immersive experience in gaming out right now...
LOVE to see you finally catch the bug man! you really need to give Post-Scriptum a try! its a a daed gaem but if you can catch a full server it would make an amazing video!
I would love to show you some things on either
I hate players that play this game like its a COD or Battlefield lobby. New update kind of forces those people to do teamwork its been great.
same here, long before ICO so many players would get disgruntled with it since it felt different from Project Reality (the father of Squad), but now it will force people to ditch the COD/BF mentality completely
They are the only ones that complain about how the new update plays. We don't need them anyways because they are usually the worthless teammates anyways 😆
you were very wrong and the game is a huge refresh, i love it
are we gonna talk about the PiP optics being 2ft from face?
My friends and I join a squad and then mute in discord in it's so funny running into eachother after losing eachother in combat
welcome back to the team, ICO enjoyer
I'm glad Squad is finally following in its father's footsteps.
the blessed propane tank shall bring us to heaven inshallah
MUCH BETTER weapon manipulation than your other video from the update.
Sheesh, that was bad…
Haha had to get the hang of it!
I can’t bear that ads time
Fire update IMO
I think so too
So they made the aiming stable again sweet might have down load it again. Lol was alot of gun sway even with holding breath.
What pc do you have?
It's just got such an Arma lite kind of vibe. It looks like it could be very challenging to play to play in a "chill" kind of way LOL.
It's a lot more engaging than Arma in my honest opinion. There's still quiet moments and all, but every Arma unit I joined wanted me to play like a full time job. Squad is good because I have an actual job and I can just hop in for an hour whenever I want.
@@spoike7027 i mean, the scenario editor exists
@@OperatorMax1993 I enjoy Eden aswell bro, but sometimes you don't want to code a whole damn mission
Apology accepted and understood
Haha thank you
if theyre gonna make ADS this hard they could at least not blur the damn peripherals
The first version of ICO was stupid, as you said, it was like they handed gun to a toddler.
Fix made it much better, there are still things I would like to adjust, but overall i´m happy and I´m having fun again.
imo more tweaking needs to be done, i get the trying to balance it out and make it slower paced but its just silly the way the gunplay acts like im literally trembling in fear and have never fired a gun before. even while trying to be slower and keep stamina up the gun still takes forever to get into a good sight picture. it just feels silly when almost every gunbattle is, spray a whole mag down range towards someone while they do the same and just hoping one of you gets a shot landed. or just camp in a bush proned out sniping people lmao that ends up working for me.
Tac mate, i do love your content and all, but saying the update is like "giving guns to toddlers" was very funny considering the clip you showed had you firing your rifle whilst the steady indicator was further apart than your team's hab from the point you gotta cap
The negative reviews of this update coming from the guys who want this to just be Battlefield shows how much it was needed.
5:36
that is so stupid though, they need to fix that no way is that realistic
Calling a Bradley a BTR... Disgusting.
Cool
His name is TactiGamer, yet plays like COD arcade gamer. 😢
C'mon man
dude's like he's playing speedsoft or whatever lmao
Hip firing at really close range engagements is still a joke tho
Would've liked to see some AR gameplay.
Does these mechanics inspire you to put some of it into your own game?
How you said you used to play was not how you were suppsoed to play anyway
Every time I play now there’s longer and more memorable gun fights. Sure everyone looks like they’re running in slow motion but gameplay is awesome.
the gunplay is depressing . they went too far with the last update its not enjoyable at all .
Most of the time this game is very unfun. Ive played it enough to know this firsthand. After every match it feels like you wasted an hour and a half of your life for nothing.
1:30 clean your keyboard bruh
To bad this isn't on console
bro it's 2023 and you still havent figured out that indies games are most of the time only on PC, get over it, or just get a PC already dude you'll be able to play both
SKS bullet is sane size as AK but casting is larger with more powder. Hits wayyyy harder.
Just like you, when I first joined a server after 6.0.0 update, I didn't like it a single bit. Machineguns on bipods have sway! What is that?
Some scopes got tiny field of view when they had a normal full-screen reticle before. Shooting a gun from your hands? Good luck hitting an enemy! Even if you scope reticle points directly at them. Add here absence of gunrests and shot-though hit registration fails, and that's what is squad now. You practically shooting for luck without knowing if you will be victorious even when you see the enemy first.
Just unlike you, I didn't have that voice saying to me: come back and try again. After 2 or 3 games, I was done with squad. There are so many more better games!
truly it was a skill issue
i kinda hate the design of not being able to see anything, i would rather to have bullets just not hitting where i want but still being able to see
Aiming with Parkinson is hard. Devs make step back.
Second?
Silver medal!
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Fast fingers way to goo!
The ICO is the best thing to happen to squad,
Listen, the gun play is definitely unrealistically difficult to control but, that was kind of the point. It has 100% created more prolonged gunfights and engagements which ultimately has made the game more immersive. At the end of the day, they did something you wouldn't expect (make the guns TOO difficult to handle) in order to make it more realistic.
5:37 jus switch to pistol bro that was so frustrating to watch
His kit doesn't have a pistol.
@@pwhak oh odd..that should be priority when equipping ur primary weapon as a long range/mid range weapon
I wish squad wasn't faction based and with more weapon variety to choose from.
I usually stop playing when I get a faction i don't want to play as.. also the maps feel very empty and barebones and not like actual places.
It is a shame because I like the gameplay.
I will say the balancing has helped immensely it's worth trying again
Honestly that's one of the things I like about squad. Each faction has their own unique feel, and each of them plays differently, bringing a ton of replayability to the game.
@@tacowaffles5967 good point
@@tacowaffles5967yes but china and US are just super boring. So are the russians.
The best faction is still militia. They have around 30 different guns or so
@@RustyBear I mean what can you expect? Those factions is literally armies of a big country. they have to be uniformed.
Fix the gameplay all you want. I have 3K hours in Squad and was an original backer. This game has completely lost its great original player base and was replaced with players that don't want to work as a team, love to mic spam or not have a mic at all, and will fail to communicate to a point where it was no longer worth it to put an hour into the game just to lose because of what I just stated. They want to make meme vids and that's all. That leaves me with the reason why I left and many other vets did. It was because OWI lost its vision and after many of the original devs left for other projects, Squad just became.... less innovative and more a teenagers paradise to f-around. They couldn't live up to any of their promises and couldn't even stick to their roadmaps to the point where they got rid of their roadmaps. Most of us went back to Arma 3 and are eagerly awaiting Arma 4 so we can play with a more mature crowd that's not interested in wasting others time. Squad in the beginning inherited a mature audience from Project Reality and it was exciting to get a new game with better graphics and promises of better game mechanics than PR. After streamers like Shroud started playing the game bringing his little annoying minions with him, and the awful launch of Battlefield 2042, Squad inherited a huge influx of young players with an attention span of a goldfish just looking for quick thrills and no team oriented gameplay. It takes very little research to see how even the Reddit account of Squad went from a mature crowd to literally meme posts on a consistent basis. The new gameplay will not change a thing. We wanted different game types, new maps, more game mechanics like fast roping, night vision, and better ways to mod the game without breaking those mods every time an update was introduced. I'm glad you're having fun but this game is dying quickly and there are so many reasons why, besides all the information I provided. No, this update didn't get rid of COD style players. They are still here because there is nothing else for them to play and as long as people fuel the new meme Squad, this game is just a dying light.
I really recommend you give it another try, the new mechanics really encourage people to stop with that nonsense
The new update actually pissed off a lot of the zoomer kiddies because it made the game slower and more teamwork oriented again.
Nglcry then. Squad was never intended as a Fast paced battlefield like shooter. Also a lot of the players are ober reacting. Cmon guys. Just bc u cannot 360 no scope someone or squad wipe as a solo?
Squad is better now.
@@RustyBear I don’t think you read one word of what I said or read anything in your whole life to be honest.
@@Rob.Flynn81 only a bit. I wont read ur whole book
I think that developers went in wrong direction. New squad unfortunately have nothing to do with reality. There are some changes which I like like new explosion animation but there is also some of them which i hate. New PIP is to small specially when comparing to reality. Scope magnification should be at least 10 times. Putting scope to an eye should be much faster. In real life it takes no more that a second and I do not consider my self as a good shooter. Scope view shouldn't be disturbed when moving with the gun from side to side because normal when U look through the scope face is resting on rifle stock. That's why Your eye is not moving from the scope view. The same with the pistol... It never shouldn't be developed as a simulation of pistol movement from sign of sight . It should be always straight to the opponent. With new squad physics we have situation when player sprays whole magazine in front of the enemy and the enemy is not hit ... this is far from realistic especially when in normal life we can always aim down the barrel at close close distances -this feature is missing.
Also it is not realistic that when You're lying down ... normally Your scope is not moving and it is even when You don't have bipod because You are resting your rifle on magazine. Those changes should be removed when developers wanted to call this game as a simulation but from my point of view developers wanted to give more chances to new players - so we should read it like more accessible to noobs which means more players = more money. Unfortunately this destroyed realism in this game and that's why players are angry.. because this is not the game they paid for.
according to the new weapon handling update I would like to propose a new name for this game " retired parkinson squad " would be quite accurate
Because its a GAME. They are trying to replicate realistic combat and it can't be done with realistic weapon handling because you aren't actually suppressed when playing a game. Your aim is also just much better with mouse. When you have realistic weapon handling in a video game, you can 360 no scope. The exaggerated sway is to counter-act the ease you get from it being a game. No its not a realistic mechanic but it encourages realistic combat and teamwork. There is plenty of statistical evidence to prove that soldiers miss most their shots in combat and that fire fights lasts long enough where maneuver is IMPORTANT.
Imagine if everyone in combat land their first or two shots like they do in the range. No one would need to bother to move to cover or to a advantageous position. Just return fire asap and dome them. That is what old Squad and other video games are like; it doesn't reflect reality.
Seems like copium to me as you take 3-4 seconds to aim and shoot one guy 6 feet in front of you, and still can't see yourself do it, so you were shooting blind. The stuff we hear about forcing people to play as a squad is also copium. People already did. If a guy isn't playing with your squad, kick him. Gatekeeping the gameplay to make terrible players feel competent will come at a cost.
The close range suppression should be reduced because CQB firefights are super goofy when people spray and pray. But otherwise I think it's fine
Says the guy shoveling copium by the truckload
You can literally crouch or go prone to stabilize much faster. It’s way more realistic this way and if you don’t like that then maybe cod is more your style. 🙄
@@Rekt-M8-v4 "stabilize much faster"-- If you call slightly less drunk/disabled stabalized. maybe doing propaganda for Squad is moreso your thing than even COD.
@@ricardogalvan1031 propaganda? Ur crazy. Bro it’s a milsim, grow up it’s not a call of duty game. Go play a fucking rpg game or something if you don’t like cod, shit 🤣
Naaa man, play still garbage!
I love the changes. Cuz u morons to slow down an reserve ur energy or u not hittin ish. Running around like this call of duty.
You just have sucked at the game prior to the update
is this the game where you get shot through walls with noone around...yea fuck this game absolute trash