Actually I disagree with that, take Dredd. Dredd is an awesome flick with a strong female lead, who kicks ass and takes name, a strong male lead who compliments and trains her and a strong female enemy who makes them suffer every inch up the block to her. So done right, female empowerment can enjoy a really good audience, even men will enjoy it. Done bad, well we get this dribble
@@strikeforcealpha9343 The difference is that the female characters in Dredd are present in the source material. Bending characters out of shape or changing them to force that messaging is what people usually criticize.
@@strikeforcealpha9343There is a big difference between strong and empowered. A strong woman is strong therefore she lifts others up. An empowered woman is weak so she needs power. She must stand over others rather than lifting them up. A strong woman is content with her strength and doesn't need to trumpet it. An empowered woman is insecure and so must trumpet her empowerment to all.
It's all too judaic. And far too many Ns on screen. My N fatigue wont let me watch them. And basic human decency prevents me from engaging with anything judaic.
Totally. I'm down to 3 streaming services out of 7 I used to have three years ago because of this bullsh!t and soon 2 more of those may go as well. I will spend the rest of my movie watching and gaming days downloading pre-2010 films and re-playing old games. I have enough old ones to keep me busy for a dozen more winters to come. They want to only make woke trash for an audience that comprises 1 percent of the total global audience? Then they're not getting any more of my evil/cis/hetero/white/male/demon/colonizer money to do it with. Fk them.
They cast a brown skinned hisoanic chick to pkay a white Redhead, and they used the bigoted femin!st term "male gaze"... Sane people will pass on this movie.
@@CleverGirlAAHim 24 but im a very rare exception of a guy who is into Howards, Lovecraft,s Clark Ashton Smith and others works, but yeah these stuido folks seem absouletly mentally stunted and to quote lovecraft himself, "insincere hacks"
@@TheMaleRei that's not my point. The fact that men being exploited gets maimstream approval. If a woman is looked at by men is shunned. Demonized so much that video games and a lot of films are afraid to sexual or even make women sexy.
Nothing worse then female gaze. went and saw Assassins' creed with Michael Fassbender. 2 old 70 year old women were there, i was like gamers?.... wait a minute, Fassbender. Then in the movie he takes of his shirt, looked at them, they were nudging each other an giggling. Old pervy toxic women oodling someone way to young for them.
@@darkhierophant4914 I know that's not *your* point. It's *my* point. There has always been a different standard between the sexes, not to mention between classes, etc etc. Seeing a muscular man humiliate himself as always been "funny" to certain groups. It's a humiliation ritual, and always has been.
Conan and Sonja are drinking in a tavern and Conan says, "Did I ever tell you how much I like your armor, what little there is of it?" Sonja responds, "That is what a Brithunian pikeman said before he tried to grope me. I hope he can handle a pike left-handed." THIS is Red Sonja. The movie with Brigitte Nielsen and Arnold was Ok.
The character was never in a Robert E Howard Conan. She was a character in a historical fiction he wrote about the siege of Vienna. The Marvel comic brought her into the Conan Hyborian age.
What is it with movie/TV companies that, when they adapt a red-headed comic/animation character for a live action version, they ALWAYS cast a black person for the role? Cyclone; Hawkgirl; Jimmy Olsen; Flash Thompson; Wally West; Iris West; Batwoman; Starfire; Electro; Heimdall; and Ariel among others.
Could be because if you shuffle the letters in "ginger" a little around, you get... a certain other word that leads to demonetization, shadowbans and worse.
I axtually despise it now Years ago it would have led to something, nowadays I want notji g to do with these gross harlots The 'good' women are all taken for sure And most of those arent even good, jist not caught yet Fuck yall
I too have seen Solomon Kane, and agree. It’s an awesome gem of a movie! Still holding out hope, that one day a sequel could materialise! With its original star James Purefoy! 😊🙌❤️
I watched it for the first time this past year and quite enjoyed it. Nothing groundbreaking but definitely refreshing and enjoyable. I actually had a silly moment during the scene when Solomon helps the family of pilgrims make camp for the day in the woods and shouted out loud, "Oh my God, they're actually in a real forest. It's like it's a real movie!" My brain had apparently become so used to seeing pointless amounts of CGI sets that when confronted with a fantasy film that has mostly on location and practical sets I had to stop and remind myself, "Oh wait, no, this is perfectly normal." Lol
To be fair - The 1985 movie DID show Sonja being trained in sword fighting in some sort of oriental monastery. Granted we only saw her at the END of her training when she’s declared a master.
Thank u andre. Solomon Kane was a fantastic movie. I'm currently working my way through the entire audible Robert e Howard library. Will pick those up those conan comics. by the way if u haven't read lone wolf and cub. Thank u
@@stripedrajang3571 Ask all "The Marvels" female viewership ? or better yet the Madame Web's non existent one, just to quote the most recent "empowering" debacles. Women will go for a Barbie movie because it was splattered pink and marketed as a comedy, but never for a fantasy or a superhero movie. Bending a genre to cater to a mythical "modern audience" is nothing but SJW's nonsense and stupid beyond belief seeing as all those "stunning and brave" projects flopped hard.
@@stripedrajang3571 Are you that uninformed or are you just acting dense ? Look up ESG, or black rock. Trillions of dollars from investor funds funneled into "forcing behaviors" *the video with the CEO of black rock using those exact same words is on youtube.
To be honest, that is a valid point in a certain way, if you, a man is going see a movie or show just to see sexual women, that is bad. Is ok to portrait some woman like that, but all of them? That is just bad... 2:57 Galadriel in Peter Jackson movies and in the book also don't look like Red Sonja, Galadriel has clothes that make sense, I HATE SO MUCH when writers and artists portrays female warriors wearing that type of armor, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL, I get it, stay faithful to the source material, but at least criticize the source material about that nonsensical armor.....
10:00 Nice plug for Titan's Conan comics. Conan the Barbarian is the only comic I am willing to go into my pocket for. Same will go for Savage Sword of Conan.
Via Amazon Kindle, I own the ssoc books 1-61 and omnibus 3-8. All good books. I love most of the stories so to hear that you got some stories as good the 70s work is somewhat exciting. I will say that how the writers and artist treated blacks was terrible and I can give plenty of examples (ssoc #14 is just one). Perhaps I will collect these new titles. I will say that the savage avengers and omnibus 8 was weak so I hope the new stories don't carry those versions of conan over.
Thanks for the great vid, Andre. I've been eagerly awaiting this movie. And yeah, Solomon Kane is one of my fave films so I hope MJ Basset delivers and that the actress is just spouting marketing talking point s. I'll always be grateful for you and Midnight's Edge for getting me into Conan!
Hey Andrej, good vid. A tip: The English idiom is "no holds barred." It's a wrestling term meaning "no holds, no matter how potentially lethal, are illegal." I think you reversed the words and said "no bars held."
Conan and Sonja are drinking in a tavern and Conan says, "Did I ever tell you how much I like your armor, what little there is of it?" Sonja responds, "That is what a Brithunian pikeman said before he tried to grope me. I hope he can handle a pike left-handed."
I don't think a story about a strong woman needs to start with her getting assaulted, and then rising up from that - that story has been done to death, and I doubt that would appeal to audiences on a large enough scale to justify any sort of budget being poured into the film. ...But this production already has all the hallmarks of a "girl-boss" flick, with absolutely zero appeal to...pretty much anyone. Sexy men and women are SEVERELY lacking in these schlock-busters. This is not some uber-serious, ultra-dramatic masterwork they're adapting here; it's female Conan. It should have a sexy woman swashbuckling and killing a**holes, and being just generally charming throughout the movie. But we can already tell, from the way they're talking about this film, that they are going to make her insufferable, undefeatable, and thusly...a hollow character that no one will give a sh!t about. The best response I can think of, for this: "Good luck!" They'll need it.
"This story has been done to death" Yeah, and one of those versions is called "Red Sonya." If you want to make a movie about a strong female warrior who doens't have that origin story then it's possible to do something new. With a new character. The squeamishness over the dreaded grape is hilarious considering that no one has any problem with horrific violence. How many people get their lives ended in Red Sonya? No one cares. But, because feminism, grape is worse. No explanation. Just trust and listen to women, bigot!
Except being assaulted is a core ingredient to the character of Red Sonja, it's as critical to her character development as uncle Ben being murdered is to Spider-Man. The world of Red Sonja (and Conan) is savage and brutal, it's not a world a sane person in the modern world would want to live in and that's by design, it's how Robert E. Howard wanted his fantasy world to be. If people want a sanitized, homogenized fantasy story Red Sonja and Conan is not for them.
@@adamjenson9369 Shh, he's doing a white knight, Red Sonya might sleep with him any minute now! Don't ruin it for him! He's a male feminist ally! The most noble type of man there can possibly be. Oh what a good goyim he is. Look at all his goodgoy points.
Well im stunned and amazed they are gonna ruin another awesome character. Tough and hot capable character turned into a weak Mary Sue. This will be a full pass then. 0:28
Conan and Sonja are drinking in a tavern and Conan says, "Did I ever tell you how much I like your armor, what little there is of it?" Sonja responds, "That is what a Brithunian pikeman said before he tried to grope me. I hope he can handle a pike left-handed."
Red Sonya is one of my most favourite movies of all time. Aside from the fact I had a big thing for Bridget. I will not watch a remake of that classic! Disney going bankrupt would the highlight of my life at the moment. I'm sick of Disney and others destroying the greats of the past!
We’ve briefly spoken about CONAN comics & I’m happy to say you are 100% correct about the impressive quality about this particular CONAN comics from Titan. This month we had not just 1 but 2 CONAN comics! What a time to be alive! Buy CONAN to get more CONAN, you Stygian dogs!
I actually agree with Bassett I hate it when SA against women is used as a plot driver. It's both horrific and lazy and feels like a terrible way to start out a journey with a hero. "You were just SAed so here are some magical powers as a consolation prize" is terrible; I guess the goddess couldn't show up 30 minutes earlier. And of course in 2024 it would be used as an opportunity to vilify all men. I still have doubts that a bad-ass sexy warrior woman is a movie that can be properly made any more but including the chainmail bikini is at least starting off on the right foot. Andre brings up a good point about Conan, and this has always been my problem with that particular narrative in every form of media including video games and comics. Was there a single Marvel film where the male lead didn't go shirtless at least once? Where are my topless super women Marvel? Both men and women are sexualized because people like their power fantasies to be sexy. There's nothing wrong with that.
Thank you for telling us about Savage Sword and Titan Comics. Comics have been trash for 15 years and I've been ignoring them, so I was completely unaware of this. I will DEFINITELY support Titan's Conan titles.
Rebecca Ferguson says lots of woke stuff in interviews, but it didn't make it into DUNE 1 and 2. It was in her head but not in the script. That's what matters.
Thank you Andre as usual, for bringing a crystal clear editorial on the situation! I completely trust your opinion on Robert E Howard material, so I´ll definitely give the movie a chance! Also good to know that both Conan and Solomon Kane are in good shape with new publications!
At this point they better not do a live action Witchblade movie because that was also something that could have happened back in 2009 and it was completely scrapped!!
After the worldwide "accident" several years ago, I have been more mindful about where I allocate money/time. Hollywood has basically made it really easy to stay home. Whenever I hear a focus on "modern audience," "strong independent woman/female lead," "diverse cast" (meaning their race/who they go to bed with), and similar themes, the studio/actor/producer is telling me this: "please stay home and save your money/time." When I saw the article headline for this movie, it was my cue to stay home.
As soon as I heard that this movie was based on the Dynamite Comics Red Sonja run, and not the original Roy Thomas Marvel Comics run, I knew it was going to be s**t.
It's easy to justify a chainmail bikini: just put Red Sonja in a normal chainmail suit that provides full body protection, and tear away patches of it during the course of the movie, as her armor receives battle damage, but Red Sonja is racing to save the world, and doesn't have time to have a blacksmith fix it.
I wish Robert Rodriguez had been able do his version of Red Sonja. That might have been worth seeing. I'll withhold judgement on this version until I know more.
No one involved cares if it makes money, or if anyone sees it as long as, 1) the "right" people are involved in production 2) There is no way any man could enjoy the movie
It’s awesome you gave a shout out to the actual Conan the barbarian comics from Dynamite. I’m currently reading the new series from Dynamite rn and it’s dope af. Never read a single Conan book prior to this launch.
Do you plan on continuing your He-Man and the Masters of the Universe history videos? Because I think that what your describing can also be applied to both Stevenson’s She-Ra show and Kevin Smith’s He-Man show.
Fun fact . Sailor Moon is very popular among women and she is scantly clad. Plus during the series she is always trying to get the attention and love of toxido Mask a man who look down on her, consider her silly and even ugly. And the plot of many popular manga for women. Is the same plot line is used for Miraculus the Adventures of Lady Bug and Cat Noir. And the series is very popular among girls. And guess wha? the strong female character main goal is get the love of a man. And thats the problem with hollywood they side with feminist whos whole ideology is women want power. And they get money by pretending women are beign opressed and keep out of power. When thats a lie. Most women prefer the love of man over power. You can find 100 stories of powerful women who just quit to get the love of man.
Once recent anime called "Tomo-chan is a Girl" does just that, she's physically strong but pretty (surprisingly busty also). Her male love interest and childhood friend (an over used trope yes) looks up to her, is no slouch either, and also physically strong himself. Both have a strong desire to be a couple and they become so by the end of the anime.
2B from Nier Automata is popular with both genders and yet Yoko Taro primarily designed her that way because, in his own words, he "likes girls". Rogue from the 90's X-Men run by Jim Lee was popular with women AND men. For Heaven's sake... Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?
Not really its lazy and pedantic motivation on the writers part actually... the issue he had wasn't motivational btw it was that she had no skills or proficiency with a sword and was magicly made to be unbeatable with no work
She was sa'ed and then granted the powers with no work whatsoever its lazy writing the grape thing was just to provoke a gut reaction from the reader... If she'd been graped then spent years training and honing her skills like say batman who as a child watched his parents gunned down in front of him that would be a different matter entirely... the grape was not a motivation for her because it didn't motivate her to do anything...
Just an FYI: The Savage Sword of Conan is no longer available. Edit: I was able to discover I still have one local comic book shop and they still had copies in stock. I was able to pick up an issue. I was also told this is looking to be only two issues in the series. Next issue comes out April 24th.
A simple way to handle Red Sonja's origin would be to drop the actual 'grape' itself, and simply have her escape the massacre of her people. She is in hiding, and witnesses the death of her family and the rest of her tribe, and it is at that point she swears she will have her vengeance on those responsible no matter the cost. There are no magic sword play powers courtesy of a goddess, but instead she becomes the protegee of an aging yet legendary warrior who takes her in and takes pity on her for all she has suffered. He teaches her all he knows and she becomes like an adopted daughter to him before he too is killed by Sonja's enemies, though not before he cuts a goodly number of them down. She buries him, renews her oath of vengeance, and then she embarks on her quest with yet another dead friend and mentor to avenge. Simple, to the point, classic sword and sorcery stuff.
@@superduperfanman2761 I think you will find that it doesn't match one of the origin stories for Red Sonja that was only retconned into the story after the fact of the initial creation of the character - not quite the same thing. It would be more like choosing not to go with the 'made from animated clay' origin for Wonder Woman in favour of the 'daughter of Zeus' origin.
Gotta love how they chose a woman with a flat chest to play red Sonja I legit forgot this reboot was even happening and I’ll forget about it until they have commercials and once the commercials are over I’ll forget about it again Goodbye everyone who reads this I’ll forget about this comment as well!
Hello, I have a question. Just how do all these producers, director, writer and actor can get paid if all their movies flopped hard? Is the DEI investment actually big enough that it can covers up any loss the movie might have so that these people can keep churning out garbage? As for disney, I know that they have their parks and other source of profit but I don't believe even Disney can keep this up.
I've been reading the new Titan Conan comics since they started and I agree, they're good stuff! Also worth mentioning is the Fire & Ice comics from Dynamite. Really enjoying both series.
Agreed about the new Conan comics! Also the "Dynamite" Red Sonja comics are sometimes quite good as well. Unfortunately there are so many sub-series that it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff sometimes, but it's worth the trouble.
You all remember Feyd Rautha Harkonnen fighting in the B&W arena in Dune chap II ? That the real challenge came when he turned off his shield and that his opponent was in full possession of his means ? same goes with Sonja . If her male counterparts /enemies are or dumb /cheap / tamed because , well , Hollywood , then she would not appear as dangerous/ interesting / bad ass/ iconic as in the comics . The fail is predictable here
So the reason why she said that it's just the studio wanna get a big studio to distribute the movie well will just wait for a trailer to come out still having a little doubts for this movie.
Well, I'll wait for future comments from you Andre, before giving this movie a chance. Now, the savage sword of conan and conan the barbarian, those are really interesting!
Let’s be honest Red Sonya wouldn’t even be a thing without the “male gaze”. The male gaze isn’t problematic it’s just normal. Scantily clad Red Sonya is hot, nothing wrong with that.
I will always maintain that an audience is incapable of failing a movie. An audience is the people who showed up, paid, and supported both film and theater. To suggest those people failed a product, whether good or bad, is very disingenuous. As for others who did not show up to support, that is not their failing but the failure of the movie to inspire an interest/desire to do what a movie is supposed to. Matilda’s comments have deterred me from the movie. Comments not made for us are comments still heard by us and I will take said comments as they’re made, making my decisions based upon them.
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We are not fed up with female empowerment we never cared in the first place.
Actually I disagree with that, take Dredd. Dredd is an awesome flick with a strong female lead, who kicks ass and takes name, a strong male lead who compliments and trains her and a strong female enemy who makes them suffer every inch up the block to her. So done right, female empowerment can enjoy a really good audience, even men will enjoy it. Done bad, well we get this dribble
@@strikeforcealpha9343 The difference is that the female characters in Dredd are present in the source material. Bending characters out of shape or changing them to force that messaging is what people usually criticize.
@@strikeforcealpha9343There is a big difference between strong and empowered. A strong woman is strong therefore she lifts others up. An empowered woman is weak so she needs power. She must stand over others rather than lifting them up. A strong woman is content with her strength and doesn't need to trumpet it. An empowered woman is insecure and so must trumpet her empowerment to all.
Plenty of good Charlize Theron movies where she kicks ass, it's just this stupid woke writing that is crap.
Women were empowered 60 fucking years ago ffs I am so sick of hearing this bullshit grow the fuck up women
I have no interest in this movie or 99% of anything Hollywood puts out.
It's all too judaic. And far too many Ns on screen. My N fatigue wont let me watch them. And basic human decency prevents me from engaging with anything judaic.
Totally. I'm down to 3 streaming services out of 7 I used to have three years ago because of this bullsh!t and soon 2 more of those may go as well. I will spend the rest of my movie watching and gaming days downloading pre-2010 films and re-playing old games. I have enough old ones to keep me busy for a dozen more winters to come. They want to only make woke trash for an audience that comprises 1 percent of the total global audience? Then they're not getting any more of my evil/cis/hetero/white/male/demon/colonizer money to do it with. Fk them.
No male customers allowed. As you wish.
Thats what you got for that? Its like you misintepret what they said on purpose.
Fuck what those slags said
Nobody gives a fuck what they think
That is what they said.
@@Joe-Przybranowski Timestamp or didnt happen.
They cast a brown skinned hisoanic chick to pkay a white Redhead, and they used the bigoted femin!st term "male gaze"...
Sane people will pass on this movie.
Studio: let’s combat the male gaze
Also studio: let’s make a Red Sonja film
None of these people should have careers
No one under 30 even knows what Red Sonja is-- and guess what men over 30 remember?? Women from the 80s and 90s loool
@@CleverGirlAAHim 24 but im a very rare exception of a guy who is into Howards, Lovecraft,s Clark Ashton Smith and others works, but yeah these stuido folks seem absouletly mentally stunted and to quote lovecraft himself, "insincere hacks"
No not the male gaze. Anything but that! Oh the humanity 😂
Yet Cena walking onstage naked gets praise.
@@darkhierophant4914
Cena took the ticket.
He can humiliate himself all he wants.
He's a joke and he knows it.
@@TheMaleRei that's not my point. The fact that men being exploited gets maimstream approval. If a woman is looked at by men is shunned. Demonized so much that video games and a lot of films are afraid to sexual or even make women sexy.
Nothing worse then female gaze. went and saw Assassins' creed with Michael Fassbender. 2 old 70 year old women were there, i was like gamers?.... wait a minute, Fassbender. Then in the movie he takes of his shirt, looked at them, they were nudging each other an giggling. Old pervy toxic women oodling someone way to young for them.
@@darkhierophant4914
I know that's not *your* point.
It's *my* point.
There has always been a different standard between the sexes, not to mention between classes, etc etc.
Seeing a muscular man humiliate himself as always been "funny" to certain groups.
It's a humiliation ritual, and always has been.
OK, what is Hollywood's problem with redheads?
Seriously, I REALLY want to know!
It's like Japan and underage girls
Whatever happened to women who were proud to be admired?
The uber feminist are louder.
Lonelyfans?
The flat chested fish eaters took over/
I bet if they cast a "plus sized" actress, she'd be in a bikini for 90% of the movie even though NO ONE wants that.
feminism.
Conan and Sonja are drinking in a tavern and Conan says, "Did I ever tell you how much I like your armor, what little there is of it?" Sonja responds, "That is what a Brithunian pikeman said before he tried to grope me. I hope he can handle a pike left-handed."
THIS is Red Sonja. The movie with Brigitte Nielsen and Arnold was Ok.
I have that comic in danish. Conans comment was translated to: "I like your armor, especially the missing parts". :)
The character was never in a Robert E Howard Conan. She was a character in a historical fiction he wrote about the siege of Vienna. The Marvel comic brought her into the Conan Hyborian age.
@@phil8821 You're translation is wrong, there's nothing missing from Red Sonja's armor, it's perfect just the way it is. =)
@@stevegt2682 I learned of this recently. I took the quotation from an old comic book.
A more impressive quote from a story I read recently had the female character saying "He lost that hand at the throat."
No male gaze and no male money.
Red Sonja was always a Mary Sue, so it doesn't matter much. XD
Not much female money either I suspect.
@@IncognitoActivado Firstly, it matters if they want people to see their movie.
Secondly, Mary Sue and male gaze are not the same thing.
@@adamjenson9369 That doesn't negate that Red Sonja is and always was a Mary Sue.
No male gaze, no male pays!
No male gaze?!? Ok, no male money
To be honest, if you are going to a movie to see hot woman in nonsensical armor, you deserve to be called dumb....
What is it with movie/TV companies that, when they adapt a red-headed comic/animation character for a live action version, they ALWAYS cast a black person for the role? Cyclone; Hawkgirl; Jimmy Olsen; Flash Thompson; Wally West; Iris West; Batwoman; Starfire; Electro; Heimdall; and Ariel among others.
I think gingers are basically treated as ‘double white’ but gingercide and bigotry against attractive people is real and very lame
So you know what projects not to give your money to 👍
Could be because if you shuffle the letters in "ginger" a little around, you get...
a certain other word that leads to demonetization, shadowbans and worse.
because they hire dyslexic casting, "I ASKED FOR A GINGER and you gave me THIS?!
Jews hate gingers.
What a silly thing to want to avoid. i don't mind the female gaze, after all. Most men would agree with me, I think.
I axtually despise it now
Years ago it would have led to something, nowadays I want notji g to do with these gross harlots
The 'good' women are all taken for sure
And most of those arent even good, jist not caught yet
Fuck yall
the female gaze is not the direct opposite, its women seeing other women as powerful/independent
@@noodlegunoblongata Nah. It's the opposite. Women seeing women as powerful/independent is rapidly going out of fashion and is sort of silly.
Nope, look up what female gaze means@@evalramman7502
I too have seen Solomon Kane, and agree. It’s an awesome gem of a movie! Still holding out hope, that one day a sequel could materialise! With its original star James Purefoy! 😊🙌❤️
I watched it for the first time this past year and quite enjoyed it. Nothing groundbreaking but definitely refreshing and enjoyable. I actually had a silly moment during the scene when Solomon helps the family of pilgrims make camp for the day in the woods and shouted out loud, "Oh my God, they're actually in a real forest. It's like it's a real movie!" My brain had apparently become so used to seeing pointless amounts of CGI sets that when confronted with a fantasy film that has mostly on location and practical sets I had to stop and remind myself, "Oh wait, no, this is perfectly normal." Lol
Never heard of it
How are you guys still 'fans' after all this?
You beat off to iron man memes while wearing a man bun too?
Woulsnt surprise ne
Love that movie!!
Part of me wants this statement to be lip service for the media, but current Hollywood would rather be activists than successful.
No male gaze, no boys watching...
To be honest, if you are going to a movie to see hot woman in nonsensical armor, you deserve to be called dumb....
I think the "Red Sonja" movie is going to go the VOD route. If it gets a theatrical release at all, it's likely to of a very limited nature.
Can we get Sydney Sweeney to play Red Sonja? Can somebody call her up and make this happen?
Is it doomed? It was never not doomed
Wasn't there supposed to be a trailer about a year ago? Obviously this went into production when this was the bestest idea ever. Its not ageing well.
We'll always have the original stories, which are the only canon.
They try really hard to turn anything liked in the past to poop in the present.
To be fair - The 1985 movie DID show Sonja being trained in sword fighting in some sort of oriental monastery. Granted we only saw her at the END of her training when she’s declared a master.
Red Sonja was fkn great
This is gonna be diarrhea with a nose ring
@@Npc1488-wc1kf You speak the truth, friend.
Thank u andre. Solomon Kane was a fantastic movie. I'm currently working my way through the entire audible Robert e Howard library. Will pick those up those conan comics. by the way if u haven't read lone wolf and cub. Thank u
Red Sonja is exactly the kind of movie most women are *not* going to go see...
So they'd darned well better make *sure* that *men* want to see it.
If it's supposedly catered to empower women, why wouldn't women want to watch it, in your opinion?
I wonder which audience remembers Red Sonja to begin with 🤔
@@stripedrajang3571 Ask all "The Marvels" female viewership ? or better yet the Madame Web's non existent one, just to quote the most recent "empowering" debacles.
Women will go for a Barbie movie because it was splattered pink and marketed as a comedy, but never for a fantasy or a superhero movie. Bending a genre to cater to a mythical "modern audience" is nothing but SJW's nonsense and stupid beyond belief seeing as all those "stunning and brave" projects flopped hard.
I see. Then, why do they keep doing it, if it keeps flopping?
@@stripedrajang3571 Are you that uninformed or are you just acting dense ? Look up ESG, or black rock. Trillions of dollars from investor funds funneled into "forcing behaviors" *the video with the CEO of black rock using those exact same words is on youtube.
To be honest, that is a valid point in a certain way, if you, a man is going see a movie or show just to see sexual women, that is bad. Is ok to portrait some woman like that, but all of them? That is just bad...
2:57 Galadriel in Peter Jackson movies and in the book also don't look like Red Sonja, Galadriel has clothes that make sense, I HATE SO MUCH when writers and artists portrays female warriors wearing that type of armor, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL, I get it, stay faithful to the source material, but at least criticize the source material about that nonsensical armor.....
The Conan comic book illustrated by Roberto de la Torre will be realeased next week in France... for once, I can't wait to read it!
If it's not doomed her words have doomed it. I love Soloman Kane and so had high hopes. Until this crap started. Hopes waining by the minute.
I have faith in Michael. He's the only director I trust nowadays.
Those Titan Conan comics are badass
The crazy thing is they’re not even focusing on targeting the female audience. All they care about is making sure men hate it. Mission accomplished
Modern fem-ism in a nutshell.
10:00 Nice plug for Titan's Conan comics. Conan the Barbarian is the only comic I am willing to go into my pocket for. Same will go for Savage Sword of Conan.
Via Amazon Kindle, I own the ssoc books 1-61 and omnibus 3-8. All good books. I love most of the stories so to hear that you got some stories as good the 70s work is somewhat exciting.
I will say that how the writers and artist treated blacks was terrible and I can give plenty of examples (ssoc #14 is just one).
Perhaps I will collect these new titles. I will say that the savage avengers and omnibus 8 was weak so I hope the new stories don't carry those versions of conan over.
Thanks for the great vid, Andre. I've been eagerly awaiting this movie. And yeah, Solomon Kane is one of my fave films so I hope MJ Basset delivers and that the actress is just spouting marketing talking point s. I'll always be grateful for you and Midnight's Edge for getting me into Conan!
You’re more confident than I am.
I for one am worried for any movie made after 2008.
DING DING DING
Hey Andrej, good vid. A tip: The English idiom is "no holds barred." It's a wrestling term meaning "no holds, no matter how potentially lethal, are illegal." I think you reversed the words and said "no bars held."
Looking forward to those Conan comic reviews!
I admit that its hard not to make Red Sonja empowered. It will depend on how she treats men.
Conan and Sonja are drinking in a tavern and Conan says, "Did I ever tell you how much I like your armor, what little there is of it?" Sonja responds, "That is what a Brithunian pikeman said before he tried to grope me. I hope he can handle a pike left-handed."
@@xhagastWrong... "Are you so poor at combat that you need more armor?" Then she winks, and Conan gives an Arnold laugh.
I don't think a story about a strong woman needs to start with her getting assaulted, and then rising up from that - that story has been done to death, and I doubt that would appeal to audiences on a large enough scale to justify any sort of budget being poured into the film.
...But this production already has all the hallmarks of a "girl-boss" flick, with absolutely zero appeal to...pretty much anyone. Sexy men and women are SEVERELY lacking in these schlock-busters. This is not some uber-serious, ultra-dramatic masterwork they're adapting here; it's female Conan. It should have a sexy woman swashbuckling and killing a**holes, and being just generally charming throughout the movie. But we can already tell, from the way they're talking about this film, that they are going to make her insufferable, undefeatable, and thusly...a hollow character that no one will give a sh!t about.
The best response I can think of, for this: "Good luck!" They'll need it.
"This story has been done to death"
Yeah, and one of those versions is called "Red Sonya."
If you want to make a movie about a strong female warrior who doens't have that origin story then it's possible to do something new. With a new character.
The squeamishness over the dreaded grape is hilarious considering that no one has any problem with horrific violence. How many people get their lives ended in Red Sonya? No one cares.
But, because feminism, grape is worse. No explanation. Just trust and listen to women, bigot!
Didnt read
Its a bunch of pussy ass omega males with cardigan, coffeee, and man buns
Thays who still watches this bullshit
Except being assaulted is a core ingredient to the character of Red Sonja, it's as critical to her character development as uncle Ben being murdered is to Spider-Man. The world of Red Sonja (and Conan) is savage and brutal, it's not a world a sane person in the modern world would want to live in and that's by design, it's how Robert E. Howard wanted his fantasy world to be. If people want a sanitized, homogenized fantasy story Red Sonja and Conan is not for them.
@@adamjenson9369 Shh, he's doing a white knight, Red Sonya might sleep with him any minute now! Don't ruin it for him! He's a male feminist ally! The most noble type of man there can possibly be.
Oh what a good goyim he is. Look at all his goodgoy points.
Red Sonja wore more clothes than Conan, so the female gaze is allowed and not the male?
The ONLY Red Sonja remake I wanted to see was gonna star Rose McGowen, but THAT ship has sailed.
Well in a few years I can probably just ai generate it
Agreed! But i have the posters 👍👍
Not only has that ship sailed, it sank to the sea floor and has years of barnacle growth on it. 🤮
Wasn't she already in a Conan like movie? Rose is trash, but if you like her then more power to ya ...
@@roguethinker9179 She was a villain in the Jason Momoa Conan film from 2011.
Well im stunned and amazed they are gonna ruin another awesome character. Tough and hot capable character turned into a weak Mary Sue. This will be a full pass then. 0:28
Conan and Sonja are drinking in a tavern and Conan says, "Did I ever tell you how much I like your armor, what little there is of it?" Sonja responds, "That is what a Brithunian pikeman said before he tried to grope me. I hope he can handle a pike left-handed."
Red Sonya is one of my most favourite movies of all time. Aside from the fact I had a big thing for Bridget. I will not watch a remake of that classic! Disney going bankrupt would the highlight of my life at the moment. I'm sick of Disney and others destroying the greats of the past!
Idiot Disney has nothing to do with this and the original Red sonja movie was a box office flop and this Film will continue the awful streak.
That Danish accentt bro
@@Npc1488-wc1kf 99% of modern actresses are not good enough to lick the soles of her shoes!
The 85 Red sonja movie was terrible and this will be the same
@solomonallen3524 If you where around in 1985, that would be terrible!
We’ve briefly spoken about CONAN comics & I’m happy to say you are 100% correct about the impressive quality about this particular CONAN comics from Titan. This month we had not just 1 but 2 CONAN comics! What a time to be alive! Buy CONAN to get more CONAN, you Stygian dogs!
If they don't like when I look - I won't, for sure, I'll take my business somewhere else, gladly!
i will pass i am tierd of the Mary sue bestist ever character
I actually agree with Bassett I hate it when SA against women is used as a plot driver. It's both horrific and lazy and feels like a terrible way to start out a journey with a hero. "You were just SAed so here are some magical powers as a consolation prize" is terrible; I guess the goddess couldn't show up 30 minutes earlier. And of course in 2024 it would be used as an opportunity to vilify all men. I still have doubts that a bad-ass sexy warrior woman is a movie that can be properly made any more but including the chainmail bikini is at least starting off on the right foot.
Andre brings up a good point about Conan, and this has always been my problem with that particular narrative in every form of media including video games and comics. Was there a single Marvel film where the male lead didn't go shirtless at least once? Where are my topless super women Marvel? Both men and women are sexualized because people like their power fantasies to be sexy. There's nothing wrong with that.
Thank you for telling us about Savage Sword and Titan Comics. Comics have been trash for 15 years and I've been ignoring them, so I was completely unaware of this. I will DEFINITELY support Titan's Conan titles.
Rebecca Ferguson says lots of woke stuff in interviews, but it didn't make it into DUNE 1 and 2. It was in her head but not in the script. That's what matters.
Thank you Andre as usual, for bringing a crystal clear editorial on the situation! I completely trust your opinion on Robert E Howard material, so I´ll definitely give the movie a chance! Also good to know that both Conan and Solomon Kane are in good shape with new publications!
OH BOI, HERE WE GO...
I’m just going to wait until you review it. Hollywood has lost all benefit of the doubt with me.
Without the chainmail how is she going to protect the goods?
At this point they better not do a live action Witchblade movie because that was also something that could have happened back in 2009 and it was completely scrapped!!
I'd rather watch the anime from 2007 with Masane Amaha than a watered-down reboot.
After the worldwide "accident" several years ago, I have been more mindful about where I allocate money/time.
Hollywood has basically made it really easy to stay home.
Whenever I hear a focus on "modern audience," "strong independent woman/female lead," "diverse cast" (meaning their race/who they go to bed with), and similar themes, the studio/actor/producer is telling me this: "please stay home and save your money/time."
When I saw the article headline for this movie, it was my cue to stay home.
As soon as I heard that this movie was based on the Dynamite Comics Red Sonja run, and not the original Roy Thomas Marvel Comics run, I knew it was going to be s**t.
Why? What's the difference between the two Red Sonjas?
Amazing reporting as always Andre keep up the good work
It's easy to justify a chainmail bikini: just put Red Sonja in a normal chainmail suit that provides full body protection, and tear away patches of it during the course of the movie, as her armor receives battle damage, but Red Sonja is racing to save the world, and doesn't have time to have a blacksmith fix it.
Conan runs around in basically his underwear and no one complains about that, but for some reason Red Sonja needs a reason. Weird.
No she should have the bikini from the jump just like in the comics
I wish Robert Rodriguez had been able do his version of Red Sonja. That might have been worth seeing.
I'll withhold judgement on this version until I know more.
Considering how bad the Conan redux with Mamoa was I’m not surprised this will also suck.
5:30 wait... so she is saying that "grape" (revenge) isn't a "strong motivation"?
Wat?
Awesome insight, hopefully it’s good 🙏🏾
Hey -- Savage Sword has been sold out for a week. Do you know if they're going to print more?
No one involved cares if it makes money, or if anyone sees it as long as,
1) the "right" people are involved in production
2) There is no way any man could enjoy the movie
It’s awesome you gave a shout out to the actual Conan the barbarian comics from Dynamite. I’m currently reading the new series from Dynamite rn and it’s dope af. Never read a single Conan book prior to this launch.
“Remove the male gaze?”
Not sure women really watch this sort of thing.
Do you plan on continuing your He-Man and the Masters of the Universe history videos? Because I think that what your describing can also be applied to both Stevenson’s She-Ra show and Kevin Smith’s He-Man show.
Fun fact . Sailor Moon is very popular among women and she is scantly clad. Plus during the series she is always trying to get the attention and love of toxido Mask a man who look down on her, consider her silly and even ugly. And the plot of many popular manga for women. Is the same plot line is used for Miraculus the Adventures of Lady Bug and Cat Noir. And the series is very popular among girls. And guess wha? the strong female character main goal is get the love of a man. And thats the problem with hollywood they side with feminist whos whole ideology is women want power. And they get money by pretending women are beign opressed and keep out of power. When thats a lie. Most women prefer the love of man over power. You can find 100 stories of powerful women who just quit to get the love of man.
Once recent anime called "Tomo-chan is a Girl" does just that, she's physically strong but pretty (surprisingly busty also). Her male love interest and childhood friend (an over used trope yes) looks up to her, is no slouch either, and also physically strong himself. Both have a strong desire to be a couple and they become so by the end of the anime.
2B from Nier Automata is popular with both genders and yet Yoko Taro primarily designed her that way because, in his own words, he "likes girls".
Rogue from the 90's X-Men run by Jim Lee was popular with women AND men.
For Heaven's sake... Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?
Been reading the new Conan from Titan, definitely worth picking up the books. They are excellent. Savage sword was a very pleasant surprise.
Dude am i a dude. an grapes is a good motivation for anyone.
Not really its lazy and pedantic motivation on the writers part actually... the issue he had wasn't motivational btw it was that she had no skills or proficiency with a sword and was magicly made to be unbeatable with no work
She was sa'ed and then granted the powers with no work whatsoever its lazy writing the grape thing was just to provoke a gut reaction from the reader...
If she'd been graped then spent years training and honing her skills like say batman who as a child watched his parents gunned down in front of him that would be a different matter entirely... the grape was not a motivation for her because it didn't motivate her to do anything...
Just an FYI: The Savage Sword of Conan is no longer available.
Edit: I was able to discover I still have one local comic book shop and they still had copies in stock. I was able to pick up an issue. I was also told this is looking to be only two issues in the series. Next issue comes out April 24th.
I told you guys a year ago it was gonna be like this, when for God knows what reason you thought it won't.
It's been a 20 year decline across all platforms of media. I'm astonished that people still get excited over announcements like X-Men 97.
Wow. Really? _No one else could have seen this coming._ Can you also do remote viewing?
Female Empowerment Fatigue. Is the fatigue nobody seems to mention but which is the biggeat fatigue right now.
Why do y'all keep trusting Hollywood? This movie was always doomed.
Thanks for the evaluation, that was once again an very insightful offering. 🙇
A simple way to handle Red Sonja's origin would be to drop the actual 'grape' itself, and simply have her escape the massacre of her people. She is in hiding, and witnesses the death of her family and the rest of her tribe, and it is at that point she swears she will have her vengeance on those responsible no matter the cost. There are no magic sword play powers courtesy of a goddess, but instead she becomes the protegee of an aging yet legendary warrior who takes her in and takes pity on her for all she has suffered. He teaches her all he knows and she becomes like an adopted daughter to him before he too is killed by Sonja's enemies, though not before he cuts a goodly number of them down. She buries him, renews her oath of vengeance, and then she embarks on her quest with yet another dead friend and mentor to avenge. Simple, to the point, classic sword and sorcery stuff.
But that’s not her story tho smh 🤦 that’s like making a Wonder Woman movie and not having themyscira
@@superduperfanman2761 I think you will find that it doesn't match one of the origin stories for Red Sonja that was only retconned into the story after the fact of the initial creation of the character - not quite the same thing. It would be more like choosing not to go with the 'made from animated clay' origin for Wonder Woman in favour of the 'daughter of Zeus' origin.
Message heard loud and clear!
I’ll by the original DVD at full price and watch that smug with the knowledge my “male gaze” was appreciated back then.
Gotta love how they chose a woman with a flat chest to play red Sonja
I legit forgot this reboot was even happening and I’ll forget about it until they have commercials and once the commercials are over I’ll forget about it again
Goodbye everyone who reads this I’ll forget about this comment as well!
I actually have all the Savage Sword of Conan comics. My father was addicted to them and when he had read each comic, he gave them to me
The actress was miscast.
Welcome to the reality of 90% of the females casted in the last decade...
Hello, I have a question. Just how do all these producers, director, writer and actor can get paid if all their movies flopped hard? Is the DEI investment actually big enough that it can covers up any loss the movie might have so that these people can keep churning out garbage? As for disney, I know that they have their parks and other source of profit but I don't believe even Disney can keep this up.
I'm not giving it a chance. If the director doesn't want male gaze then I'm not going to gaze. (. he.) Asked for it (he's) going to get it.
Remaining hopeful, I will see it in whatever format it is released on be it theatrical or digital.
I've been reading the new Titan Conan comics since they started and I agree, they're good stuff! Also worth mentioning is the Fire & Ice comics from Dynamite. Really enjoying both series.
Agreed about the new Conan comics! Also the "Dynamite" Red Sonja comics are sometimes quite good as well. Unfortunately there are so many sub-series that it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff sometimes, but it's worth the trouble.
Thank you, Andre!
Hollywood's self-harm tendencies will never not be puzzling to me.
You all remember Feyd Rautha Harkonnen fighting in the B&W arena in Dune chap II ? That the real challenge came when he turned off his shield and that his opponent was in full possession of his means ? same goes with Sonja . If her male counterparts /enemies are or dumb /cheap / tamed because , well , Hollywood , then she would not appear as dangerous/ interesting / bad ass/ iconic as in the comics . The fail is predictable here
Imagine Red Sonja in a burka, no male gaze.
So the reason why she said that it's just the studio wanna get a big studio to distribute the movie well will just wait for a trailer to come out still having a little doubts for this movie.
Just picked up Savage Sword of Conan based on your suggestion. I’ll let ya know what I think.
Well, I'll wait for future comments from you Andre, before giving this movie a chance.
Now, the savage sword of conan and conan the barbarian, those are really interesting!
Let’s be honest Red Sonya wouldn’t even be a thing without the “male gaze”. The male gaze isn’t problematic it’s just normal. Scantily clad Red Sonya is hot, nothing wrong with that.
I don't know about the sonja movie/show. i passed on Savage Sword of Conan. I might give it a go next time I'm at the comic shop
I'll wait to see what you gentlemen have to say when the movie comes out
Strong heroes today is what we used to call mediocre villains in the 1980s.
The continuation of erasing red heads is so potent that even when they survive the casting the first draft was still a race swap.
They'll never learn, do they?!
I've rolled my eyes so hard, I almost gave myself a concussion.. 🙄🤦🏻♂
I will always maintain that an audience is incapable of failing a movie. An audience is the people who showed up, paid, and supported both film and theater. To suggest those people failed a product, whether good or bad, is very disingenuous.
As for others who did not show up to support, that is not their failing but the failure of the movie to inspire an interest/desire to do what a movie is supposed to.
Matilda’s comments have deterred me from the movie. Comments not made for us are comments still heard by us and I will take said comments as they’re made, making my decisions based upon them.
Can we have a good fantasy / adventure type of movie AND THAT'S IT ? thank you
They've now guaranteed no men will watch this. And women don't like action girlboss movies. So, who is this for?
At this juncture in Hollyweird, how can ANYONE be surprised at this news?
I knew this was too good to be true when they tried the ol' bait and switch.
I'm not optimistic. But I do hope I'm wrong. Red Sonja is an awesome character from my comics years.
I'm going to wait for the trailer. Then I'll judge if it's worth watching it.
The whole Red Sonia comics is to look at Red Sonia wearing basically nothing while kicking ass. It is ALL ABOUT Male Gaze.