@@Torquemada70 Highlander never needs to be remade. Highlander 2 on the otherhand, probably. However time being what it is it couldn't and shouldn't. Also the original is a good example of something which was good and then given that whole "Hollywood executive" treatment for a squeal. (i.e shite).
Male Gaze is Red Sonja´s strongest asset. BECAUSE her mostly male opponents cannot avert gazing at her assets, they lose. It´s psychological warfare at its finest.
Actually if you look at historical findings on female barbarians they usually fought topless or with little to no armor at all giving them faster movements compaired to their opponents in armor and leather armor. So yes Red Sonja's iconic scale mail bikini is very historically accurate.
Not holding my breath. I'd bet Millennium Films took ESG-DEI money. Now there seems to be a struggle to put a proper Red Sonya out while complying with their DEI overlords.
I dunno how you manage to fuck up the easiest sell in the universe: A hot redhead in a bikini with a giant sword killing barbarians and monsters, it's like managing to set fire to water
@@xenomorphphantom8852 It was a solid movie. I had a problem with fictional SK origin, history goofs and robot monster at the end, but other than that, it was very good.
@@DRTISAGITA LOL It's exactly as "The Shadow" movie from the 90's,they both SHOW the character they derive their names from,but none are about said character. Heck,in the Solomon Kane one at one time he is a ripoff of Cervantes de Leon of SoulCalibur fame...he even fights the same way!
Going on the math that a movie has to make double its budget to be considered profitable, 2011’s Conan lost $116 million dollars and 2019’s Hellboy lost $44.9 million dollars. I am beginning to enjoy watching these companies flush their finite resources down the toilet. Hopefully it will put them out of business sooner rather than later. Anyone remember Cannon Films?
The studio got some new big names for the cast, and is reshooting right now. They got Morgan Freeman as Red Sonja, and Arianna Grande as Kalidor/Conan.
Anything based in the Conan universe has to be directed and written by masculine, heterosexual men. To do otherwise would be to completely misunderstand the source material and audience.
Not quite right. She's been given less revealing outfits plenty of times with varying degrees of success but it's true that Dynamite always ends up going back to the scalemail bikini because it's an iconic look.
Millennium is making my head hurt. This Isn’t that hard to do. Having attractive woman, have her fight, even halfway, realistically in chainmail bikini, and make money.
The original Charlie's Angles (1976 - 1981) was the last sexy girl boss franchise. The only other male regular Bosley (David Doyle) was given a good role because being the Bosley of a girl power group was every boys fantasy at the time. Series producer John Forsythe knew his target audience and played to his strengths in knowing that market.
There was a hope when they announced that MJ Bassett is the director, but but as soon as it was announced who she had chosen to play Sonja, and then that she will change Sonja's comic book origin - all hopes sank to the bottom of the ocean.
@billybarnett9518 Yep, and Ketchup Entertainment is practically a startup company. It's a bit strange because you'd think that Lionsgate would be releasing a Millennium film.
Furiosa would've likely performed better if it didn't ride on the coattails of the "Mad Max" name in its title. If it was entitled Furiosa: A Wasteland Saga it wouldn't rightfully receive the criticism of being a Mad Max movie without Mad Max in it.
There WAS a scene of him standing on a ridge looking down at her as a cameo. Granted, they didn't show his face, because I speculate they are looking for a new actor to play the role for an extended period of time.
That is what they are doing all the time. They could have created a new IP, but they want to use an audience for "star wars", and thus an acolyte needed to get that sticker. But because of that sticker they did not get a new audience (you know those people that react on twitter but don't go to cinemas) AND they lost the audience they were banking on (by destroying any bit of lore that was still standing after several years of that IP under animal / rat control).
Nope, still a Mad Max movie without Mad Max. It also bombed because Hollywood keeps trying to reengineer male franchises into female ones and it just doesn’t work.
@@anon2752 I agree that no one asked for a Furiosa movie, but having Mad Max in the title definitely affected how the movie performed. It would be like if The Joker was titled _Joker: A Batman Saga_ leaving audiences confused when Batman was nowhere to be seen in the movie aside from maybe a brief cameo or something. Same happened here with _Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga_ where audiences expected to see a Mad Max movie with Max in it.
Matilda does not fit the Red Sonja physical type at all. Why was she chosen? An actress chosen to play the role needs to be tough and strong, but still sexy looking. Matilda is sexy, but that's it. She would never be a warrior maiden in the old days. As for the "Hellboy-The Crooked Man" looks awful and nothing like the comic story.
I don't even like Ron Perlman, but them not doing a third hellboy movie with him is incredibly stupid, with each passing day they have less time to do it, and it would also be more financially successful than these two reboot attempts.
Perlman Has made himself into enough of a Obnoxious and unlikable political mouthpiece and overall social media bafoon that I really don't find him a draw anymore... At all.
@@xisigma Apparently we also missed out on a del Toro take on hp lovecrafts At the mountains of madness. The fact that somebody fumbled that should be considered a crime against creativity.
As was said in this video, it is a thing for a predominant male audience. CIS white males (or any other real male) are not a target in Hollyweird or on social media (at least currently). Thus this demographic is dropped during conversations. We don't exist.
Predominantly males like that comic stuff. As those are not pandered to, information is reduced. BTW same message, different words, normal language was deleted. Big tech in the land of the free uses filters.
I will wager any amount that this movie is going to be woke trash. Another silly, insipid Girlboss power fantasy where men are crapped upon relentlessly.
What really sucks while Conan has found a resurgence in Titan Comics Red Sonja comics have been absolutely god awful. Great covers but the art inside is so laughably bad every single time I flip through them at the comic store
Wait, that Hellboy movie is actually real and not a fan film? How do make something worse than 2019? Those producers will do anything but just call del Toro and Perlman back for the Hellboy 3 that we deserve.
The unfortunate fact that Ron Pearlman has turned himself into an Unlikable, Dim-witted political mouth piece that that has no draw for a much larger cross section of the public than people realize.
Yes, you might be guessing a lot. But your arguments and the last few years seem to point into the direction you hinted at. Big companies tend to be like big transport ships, they tend to take long stretches for breaking speed or even changing directions. I have another fear: lots of creative people might have been replaced with the help of DEI casting. That might make it impossible for the current teams to make anything that could be worth watching. Indicating a long dry run until teams AND companies are able to produce entertainment again.
Red Sonja has always been one of my favorites. I know that I will almost certainly never see a true Roy Thomas version of RS in the theaters but I always try to be positive about it. However, this whole situation does not sound promising. If the movie is not stellar, I'd rather it not come out at all.
It's yet another DOA movie. 10 years ago, it would have taken a lot to make me lose interest in something like this, but I am so tired of it now. "Actress complains about male-gaze?" Oh, okay, red flag, I'll skip it. That's literally all it takes these days. I will spend my money on movies that aren't made by people who hate me and the source material. I am neither misogynistic, homophobic, nor racist. I JUST want good stories and I will skip any product with even a hint of ideology-over-story
I believe Millennium Films are the real problem we didn't see a trailer for red Sonia yet but hearing what the director for the reboot said yeah sounds like they not have a good relationship.
I had forgotten that this movie existed. These days I have no excitement about anything coming out of Hollywood. But never again will I see graphite in the same way.
I never expected there would be a decent Red Sonja movie. It wouldn't bother me to the level of the God awful latter treatment of Conan, because Red Sonja is not an actual REH character, but still she was a decent comic character set in the Hyborian age. But most studios have no artistic vision and the people they hire generally only understand writing at the level of fan fiction and identity politics. I'd love someone with talent to make a Red Sonya movie, or better yet adapt REH's character Dark Agnes, set in medieval France. That would be great but it will never happen.
Lady Death would have been a fun one for sure even if they didn't go full comic/anime accurate it's still a good vs evil, easy to follow type of story.
In short, just like other suicide squad 2016, they had a vision for the movie in mind, that proved to be unpopular by the time most of the film Making was done, and now they desperately try to change it, Considering suicide squad, im saying :“good luck“🤣
I am still going to watch Hellboy The Crooked Man. Jeez, it sounds like the movie is in big shit. It is crazy to hear that they've finished filming the movie a year and a half ago and they haven't released, it is just wild. I want Arnold to make Conan the Barbarian 3 R rated like the first Conan movie (the second Conan movie was something with pg13, I don't remember). I blame the producer who has the rights to Conan who won't give Arnold his third Conan movie.
At this point nothing surprises me anymore, it's like Hollywood has TNT strapped to all my favorite things and is playing iny meany miny moe with two different Detenators. My only consolation is they will not get my money.
More remakes. Name a remake as good as the original? BSG maybe? People need to let these remakes/reboots die. Hollywood cant even stand on their own anymore. They have to rob the graves of movies past but even thats not good enough, then the shit all over them by making them fit for modern audiences. Imagine them doing Big Trouble in Little China today. I need to stop, I better not give them any ideas.
Best that can come close are the comics now. Arnold Conan is fun but ain’t nowhere near faithful to Robert E Howard books. Conan would never had been a slave
A character which has always been (if I'm not mistaken) about female empowerment can't find a buyer since it's not their brand of female empowerment. Score one for... uh... strong female leads?
Best to write it off I'd say & get a tax rebate on it. Speaking of which I hear Hasbro commissioned paid for and made an entire 50+ episode Cartoon series for the Micronauts Brand and then NEVER RELEASED IT according to the show runner. Which kinda makes sense as I heard they were developing a toy line that then "disappeared" so yeah a 'bit odd'.
I know the character of Red Sonja, and she's never really held any interest for me. From what you have to say, I have zero interest in this movie, even if it was pretty good. That being said, if it starred Sydney Sweeney, I'd be lining up to see it! She's hot and she's not a whacked out woke weirdo! Put those two things together, plus having her in a chainmail bikini and I'm sold!!!
i have a background in martail arts and my bigest gripe is the so called female fighters look like they would lose to a paper bag in real life. they are not credable at all so they move everything around to acomadate that. eg at the start of rings of power they were fighting a dragon that was wiping out the best of them a small army of buffed dudes. then the female hero turns up all on her own and the dragon goes down just like that. haveing a face like you are sucking a lemon is no substitute for real grit.
I am a Hellboy purist and while initially liking the first Hellboy, Del Toro went far off the rails with the second one and did not make a Mignola Hellboy but a masturbatory Del Toro version - he basically made it great visually but terrible story that went way far afield. As much as people slag the recent Hellboy, it was much more like the real Hellboy comics than the first two. It was not perfect, but in retrospect it was an actual Hellboy film unlike Del Toro’s second. I like Marshall as director and it is a shame his experience was so bad as I like the film. The Crooked Man (and its follow-up The Return of Effie Kolb) is one of my favorite stories and would make a awesome film.
I would like to remind folks of Xena: Warrior Princess. Gabrielle went from being a conservatively dressed farm girl, to a nearly bikini clad warrior. Everyone really liked her transformation. She became more competent, confident, and effective while becoming sexier. Red Sonja is a hot, sexy, competent, intelligent warrior. I think fondly of Brigitte Nielsen. Be faithful to characters and lore, or FAIL.
Sure, but Xena simply gets a pass by that progressive crowd because the showrunner thought it was a good idea to queerbait that part of the fanbase in later seasons. It was one of the complaints leveled at it near the end of its run.
I wonder what Hollywood will look like and what lessons they will learn if EVERY movie they make done this way flops. People need to vote with their wallets. Honestly, what the shutdown taught me is I don't miss going to the theaters so I definitely will not see that I know is crap. Most of it is crap so I can easily pass or just wait.
Red Sonja avoids the Male Gaze by never appearing in theatres! Perfect 😂
Nice one, Skippy.
But it's nothing that Sydney Sweeney couldn't fix pretty quickly.
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Good. Im done with girl boss movies.
@@michaelhart7569 with all respect to Sydney I can't see her as an action actress.
Given what we know about present-day Hollywood, any time I hear that a classic movie is going to be remade, I know for a fact that it'll be CRAP.
Was going to suggest Highlander, but apparently that's not going to be a remake any more
@@Torquemada70 Highlander never needs to be remade. Highlander 2 on the otherhand, probably. However time being what it is it couldn't and shouldn't. Also the original is a good example of something which was good and then given that whole "Hollywood executive" treatment for a squeal. (i.e shite).
Admittedly, the Brigitte Nelson _Red Sonja_ wasn't exactly a "classic."
If they were capable of making something good, they would make something original they can farm as a IP career.
@@carlflaherty2215, that's what I was going to say. Of course, I still watched it repeatedly growing up.
No final cut. No distributor. No male gaze in a friggin' RED SONJA picture.
Riiiiiiight....
Male Gaze is Red Sonja´s strongest asset. BECAUSE her mostly male opponents cannot avert gazing at her assets, they lose. It´s psychological warfare at its finest.
Actually if you look at historical findings on female barbarians they usually fought topless or with little to no armor at all giving them faster movements compaired to their opponents in armor and leather armor.
So yes Red Sonja's iconic scale mail bikini is very historically accurate.
Well there are two HUGE problems with this movie:
1) Matilda Lutz is absolutely gorgeous with red hair.
2) Matilda Lutz is white with red hair
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha thank you
Awesomeness
Matilda has olive skin and brown hair.
@@DRTISAGITA go ahead and tell the Greeks they aren't white. Lol
@@Joshua-xe7rm I like Greeks but they aren't.
Not holding my breath. I'd bet Millennium Films took ESG-DEI money. Now there seems to be a struggle to put a proper Red Sonya out while complying with their DEI overlords.
/\ This !
Graphite on the ground should be a new phrase.
You didn't see any graphite on the ground.
@@TheOneZytelYOU DIDN’T! Because its not there!!!😄
There are four lights.
There is graphite on the ground.
The emperor is naked.
It's an action-oriented film with a female lead. There's no way a US studio would let something good be made.
The way Andre talks about "Graphite On The Ground" reminds me of Kamala Harris talking about "The Passage of Time."
The late British Queen called it "in the fullness of time". And it was about the truth that would be revealed at an unspecified time in the future.
*spoon clank*
Right. Without the burden of prerequisites, or whatever. She has repeated that same phrase around a hundred times.
Why is anyone surprised? If they decide to make a Conan movie it will suck too. Modern Hollywood can't help themselves with this type of material.
It sucked.
@@xenomorphphantom8852 What did? 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sentinel82the newest Conan movie.
@@awesomeatronik Oh yeah definitely.
They gonna make a sword & sorcery-verse. Or try to...
I dunno how you manage to fuck up the easiest sell in the universe: A hot redhead in a bikini with a giant sword killing barbarians and monsters, it's like managing to set fire to water
Well...they ruined Solomon Kane,that's an achievement by itself.
@@xenomorphphantom8852Bro the Solomon Kane movie wasn't a masterpiece but it definitely wasn't RUINED.
@@loslobos786 LOL
It was.
@@xenomorphphantom8852 It was a solid movie. I had a problem with fictional SK origin, history goofs and robot monster at the end, but other than that, it was very good.
@@DRTISAGITA LOL
It's exactly as "The Shadow" movie from the 90's,they both SHOW the character they derive their names from,but none are about said character.
Heck,in the Solomon Kane one at one time he is a ripoff of Cervantes de Leon of SoulCalibur fame...he even fights the same way!
Going on the math that a movie has to make double its budget to be considered profitable, 2011’s Conan lost $116 million dollars and 2019’s Hellboy lost $44.9 million dollars.
I am beginning to enjoy watching these companies flush their finite resources down the toilet. Hopefully it will put them out of business sooner rather than later.
Anyone remember Cannon Films?
The studio got some new big names for the cast, and is reshooting right now. They got Morgan Freeman as Red Sonja, and Arianna Grande as Kalidor/Conan.
Thank you for getting my memo from a few days back, Andre.
Hate to bear such news, even though bitter truths must be passed around.
The people must be told, thanks for letting me know!
so no male gaze for red sonja but disney rolling out female gaze material in a childrens show. that we do get! current day man .. current day.
And gurl literally gazed at the D
One only has to look a the cast to see Red Sonja's a joke.
I am expecting Red Mary Sue.
Anything based in the Conan universe has to be directed and written by masculine, heterosexual men. To do otherwise would be to completely misunderstand the source material and audience.
they tried covering up her in the comics but that lasted 6 issues then next volume she was back to normal
Not quite right. She's been given less revealing outfits plenty of times with varying degrees of success but it's true that Dynamite always ends up going back to the scalemail bikini because it's an iconic look.
Millennium is making my head hurt. This Isn’t that hard to do. Having attractive woman, have her fight, even halfway, realistically in chainmail bikini, and make money.
Most importantly, a bathing scene.
Red Sonja been in production so long I remember when Rose McGowan had the role a decade ago.
The original Charlie's Angles (1976 - 1981) was the last sexy girl boss franchise. The only other male regular Bosley (David Doyle) was given a good role because being the Bosley of a girl power group was every boys fantasy at the time. Series producer John Forsythe knew his target audience and played to his strengths in knowing that market.
Go find the Conan and Red Sonja fan edit project instead. It's pretty great. Modern Hollywood is beyond saving.
link it here
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There was never any hope for this movie. You were foolish to believe there was.
There was a hope when they announced that MJ Bassett is the director, but but as soon as it was announced who she had chosen to play Sonja, and then that she will change Sonja's comic book origin - all hopes sank to the bottom of the ocean.
I'm not suprised by this in the slightest.
Hoping for the best, but it's not looking good. According to IMDB, there's not even a U.S. distributor yet.
Yeah, for as cheap as the new Hellboy looks, even that actually landed a distributor.
@billybarnett9518 Yep, and Ketchup Entertainment is practically a startup company. It's a bit strange because you'd think that Lionsgate would be releasing a Millennium film.
This made me want to watch the 80s Red Sonja again, but then watched Conan the Barbarian instead because it’s infinitely better.
My condolences.
It sucks to anticipate things in the Age of Contempt.
When will it end?
ANOTHER remake??? Wow, Hollywood has completely imploded.
It's one of those projects that's being dragging on for so long you can't believe it hasn't been and gone.
Furiosa would've likely performed better if it didn't ride on the coattails of the "Mad Max" name in its title. If it was entitled Furiosa: A Wasteland Saga it wouldn't rightfully receive the criticism of being a Mad Max movie without Mad Max in it.
There WAS a scene of him standing on a ridge looking down at her as a cameo. Granted, they didn't show his face, because I speculate they are looking for a new actor to play the role for an extended period of time.
That is what they are doing all the time. They could have created a new IP, but they want to use an audience for "star wars", and thus an acolyte needed to get that sticker. But because of that sticker they did not get a new audience (you know those people that react on twitter but don't go to cinemas) AND they lost the audience they were banking on (by destroying any bit of lore that was still standing after several years of that IP under animal / rat control).
Nobody asked for a furiosa movie, so nobody went to see it. mad max in the title or not wouldnt have mattered.
Nope, still a Mad Max movie without Mad Max. It also bombed because Hollywood keeps trying to reengineer male franchises into female ones and it just doesn’t work.
@@anon2752 I agree that no one asked for a Furiosa movie, but having Mad Max in the title definitely affected how the movie performed. It would be like if The Joker was titled _Joker: A Batman Saga_ leaving audiences confused when Batman was nowhere to be seen in the movie aside from maybe a brief cameo or something. Same happened here with _Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga_ where audiences expected to see a Mad Max movie with Max in it.
You already know there is nooooooooo way in heaven or hell they would ever let this movie happen
Sweeney as Red Sonja......yes please. Don't care if she speaks or not. Male gaze indeed.
Just watched Conan the Destroyer. Campy cheesy fun.
Campy?
Red Sonia was campy. Conan is probably the best fantasy film ever made.
There’s Barbarian (1982) and Destroyer (1984):
The latter is indeed campy and fun.
It's not as good as the first one but decent enough for its production date. The fights were good.
@@baahcusegamer4530 o, my bad. I've actually got Conan the destroyer mixed up with red sonia, in my child brain. Haven't seen either for twenty years.
I can only hope it’s a symptom that some of Hollywood is realizing where the wind is blowing.
Matilda does not fit the Red Sonja physical type at all. Why was she chosen? An actress chosen to play the role needs to be tough and strong, but still sexy looking. Matilda is sexy, but that's it. She would never be a warrior maiden in the old days. As for the "Hellboy-The Crooked Man" looks awful and nothing like the comic story.
I don't even like Ron Perlman, but them not doing a third hellboy movie with him is incredibly stupid, with each passing day they have less time to do it, and it would also be more financially successful than these two reboot attempts.
Perlman Has made himself into enough of a Obnoxious and unlikable political mouthpiece and overall social media bafoon that I really don't find him a draw anymore... At all.
Hellboy was great, but if we're getting del toro back, I really want to see his hobbit. What a loss...
@@xisigma Apparently we also missed out on a del Toro take on hp lovecrafts At the mountains of madness.
The fact that somebody fumbled that should be considered a crime against creativity.
Ngl…. Never heard of anyone excited about Red Sonya, with the exception when this channel brings it up. 😂
As was said in this video, it is a thing for a predominant male audience. CIS white males (or any other real male) are not a target in Hollyweird or on social media (at least currently). Thus this demographic is dropped during conversations. We don't exist.
Predominantly males like that comic stuff. As those are not pandered to, information is reduced.
BTW same message, different words, normal language was deleted.
Big tech in the land of the free uses filters.
Some of us old time Conan and Red Sonja fans were excited, like me. But I knew not to get too excited. Still, one can hope.
@@DreamingDarlin yeah, I still hope overall comes out good. I’ll never say no to a movie
@@mflax4331Just say straight men. Don’t use their terms because it gives them credibility when you do it.
Thanks for the update, and all your hard work!
Red Sonja + Sydney Sweeny? I hadn’t even thought of that. Why did you have to say that, damn you.
I will wager any amount that this movie is going to be woke trash. Another silly, insipid Girlboss power fantasy where men are crapped upon relentlessly.
What really sucks while Conan has found a resurgence in Titan Comics Red Sonja comics have been absolutely god awful. Great covers but the art inside is so laughably bad every single time I flip through them at the comic store
The stories have (largely) been pretty good though.
Wait, that Hellboy movie is actually real and not a fan film? How do make something worse than 2019? Those producers will do anything but just call del Toro and Perlman back for the Hellboy 3 that we deserve.
The unfortunate fact that Ron Pearlman has turned himself into an Unlikable, Dim-witted political mouth piece that that has no draw for a much larger cross section of the public than people realize.
Welp, I'd like to argue that male gaze would've been better for the film than no gaze at all. RIP Red Sonja it looks like :/
Yes, you might be guessing a lot. But your arguments and the last few years seem to point into the direction you hinted at. Big companies tend to be like big transport ships, they tend to take long stretches for breaking speed or even changing directions. I have another fear: lots of creative people might have been replaced with the help of DEI casting. That might make it impossible for the current teams to make anything that could be worth watching. Indicating a long dry run until teams AND companies are able to produce entertainment again.
Red Sonja has always been one of my favorites. I know that I will almost certainly never see a true Roy Thomas version of RS in the theaters but I always try to be positive about it. However, this whole situation does not sound promising. If the movie is not stellar, I'd rather it not come out at all.
"My girlfriend texted me "Fine." Let's break down how this means she is not in fact fine."
Was a trailer ever released for Red Sonja? Haven't seen a thing yet.
It's yet another DOA movie. 10 years ago, it would have taken a lot to make me lose interest in something like this, but I am so tired of it now. "Actress complains about male-gaze?" Oh, okay, red flag, I'll skip it. That's literally all it takes these days. I will spend my money on movies that aren't made by people who hate me and the source material. I am neither misogynistic, homophobic, nor racist. I JUST want good stories and I will skip any product with even a hint of ideology-over-story
Asian Red Sonja gets 200 million budget, fails, blames fans, kills franchise. Rinse Repeat.
Hey there Andre, when are you going to cover what is happening with 'The Boys'?
I believe Millennium Films are the real problem we didn't see a trailer for red Sonia yet but hearing what the director for the reboot said yeah sounds like they not have a good relationship.
Take a shot, or chug a beer whenever ya hear the word "graphite" or "on the ground."
I had forgotten that this movie existed. These days I have no excitement about anything coming out of Hollywood. But never again will I see graphite in the same way.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Red Sonja is DOA. Like Furiosa , Madam Web, and the Marvles. Had enough of Sheroes. Not spending money on this.
Furiosa is pretty good though. Pointless to make, but not bad.
@curiositycloset2359 Not pointless, they simply took too long to make. The movie would have been a success a few years ago.
@@Horacio_Poggi may be. I'm one of the few people who rate it over fury road.
OK, incel.
@@TheContrarianMediagot anymore original zingers, boy?
I never expected there would be a decent Red Sonja movie. It wouldn't bother me to the level of the God awful latter treatment of Conan, because Red Sonja is not an actual REH character, but still she was a decent comic character set in the Hyborian age. But most studios have no artistic vision and the people they hire generally only understand writing at the level of fan fiction and identity politics.
I'd love someone with talent to make a Red Sonya movie, or better yet adapt REH's character Dark Agnes, set in medieval France. That would be great but it will never happen.
Couldn't they use ai to reskin the Lady Death animated movie into a Red Sonja movie instead, and save the hazzle?
Lady Death would have been a fun one for sure even if they didn't go full comic/anime accurate it's still a good vs evil, easy to follow type of story.
In short, just like other suicide squad 2016, they had a vision for the movie in mind, that proved to be unpopular by the time most of the film Making was done, and now they desperately try to change it,
Considering suicide squad, im saying :“good luck“🤣
Hard pass! FLOP!
Hollywood can abandon any hope of selling me anything until they pander to me. Period.
when i 1st learn about red sonja movie in the making, i totally expected it to goes this way...
It sounds like this movie should be scrapped completely and turned into a tax write off, to join the likes of Williow TV show and Batgirl in obvion!!
Thanks. Wish you'd distinguish between your solo episodes from the group discussio. I prefer the former
Disappointing news. Still hoping for something salvageable. 😕
With Millennium still involved, I wouldn't get my hopes up. They have a proven track record of botching their films.
11.10 you can just imagine that being there perfect DEI Sonja.
I can just imagine that "Sonja" sniffing out truffles and wallowing in the mud.
I am still going to watch Hellboy The Crooked Man. Jeez, it sounds like the movie is in big shit. It is crazy to hear that they've finished filming the movie a year and a half ago and they haven't released, it is just wild. I want Arnold to make Conan the Barbarian 3 R rated like the first Conan movie (the second Conan movie was something with pg13, I don't remember). I blame the producer who has the rights to Conan who won't give Arnold his third Conan movie.
I have been waiting for that movie forever. Love Red Sonja but the delay doesn't help with high expectations.
Come on, I don't know the books, but the film is one of the worst ever made.
At this point nothing surprises me anymore, it's like Hollywood has TNT strapped to all my favorite things and is playing iny meany miny moe with two different Detenators. My only consolation is they will not get my money.
More remakes. Name a remake as good as the original? BSG maybe? People need to let these remakes/reboots die. Hollywood cant even stand on their own anymore. They have to rob the graves of movies past but even thats not good enough, then the shit all over them by making them fit for modern audiences.
Imagine them doing Big Trouble in Little China today. I need to stop, I better not give them any ideas.
I'd much prefer a good faithful Conan adaptation.
Best that can come close are the comics now.
Arnold Conan is fun but ain’t nowhere near faithful to Robert E Howard books.
Conan would never had been a slave
This is really a huge shame. A fantastic Red Sonja film would be so great to see.! I miss the Conan world.
Yep, I think graphite on the ground is an apt description!
A character which has always been (if I'm not mistaken) about female empowerment can't find a buyer since it's not their brand of female empowerment. Score one for... uh... strong female leads?
Sidney Sonja would make a great Sweeny.
Best to write it off I'd say & get a tax rebate on it.
Speaking of which I hear Hasbro commissioned paid for and made an entire 50+ episode Cartoon series for the Micronauts Brand and then NEVER RELEASED IT according to the show runner.
Which kinda makes sense as I heard they were developing a toy line that then "disappeared" so yeah a 'bit odd'.
It shouldn't be hard to make a movie like Red Sonja, But Hollywood in their own "Progressive Bubble" can't help but make it difficult on themselves.
This is why I never get my hopes up for a movie these days.
Good lord, they’re making a Red Sonja in THIS culture?? Yeah, that’ll work…
A mini series would have been best, pulling from source material
I never had any hope for Red Sonja... I knew they woukd F it up!
Female gaze appropriate?...
Conan
Hercules
Every superhero, shirtless, thirst trap scene.
And nothing of value was lost, should be the saying, if this show doesn't make it to the public eye. Not in this world's current political climate.
They should let the ip sit until the 80s movie can be made again because clearly this is not the time
Making male brands into Twilight...no thanks.
When Andre worries, I am worried! Westernkind is amazing!
I know the character of Red Sonja, and she's never really held any interest for me. From what you have to say, I have zero interest in this movie, even if it was pretty good. That being said, if it starred Sydney Sweeney, I'd be lining up to see it! She's hot and she's not a whacked out woke weirdo! Put those two things together, plus having her in a chainmail bikini and I'm sold!!!
i have a background in martail arts and my bigest gripe is the so called female fighters look like they would lose to a paper bag in real life.
they are not credable at all so they move everything around to acomadate that.
eg at the start of rings of power they were fighting a dragon that was wiping out the best of them a small army of buffed dudes.
then the female hero turns up all on her own and the dragon goes down just like that.
haveing a face like you are sucking a lemon is no substitute for real grit.
Hey ME I’m curious what you think of the Titan Conan comics?
They have said in the past they are awesome
I am a Hellboy purist and while initially liking the first Hellboy, Del Toro went far off the rails with the second one and did not make a Mignola Hellboy but a masturbatory Del Toro version - he basically made it great visually but terrible story that went way far afield.
As much as people slag the recent Hellboy, it was much more like the real Hellboy comics than the first two. It was not perfect, but in retrospect it was an actual Hellboy film unlike Del Toro’s second. I like Marshall as director and it is a shame his experience was so bad as I like the film. The Crooked Man (and its follow-up The Return of Effie Kolb) is one of my favorite stories and would make a awesome film.
0:44 It's also inaccurate to the actual events.
I'd pay good money to see Sydney Sweeney in a sword and sorcery action movie. It doesn't even need to be Red Sonja.
I would like to remind folks of Xena: Warrior Princess. Gabrielle went from being a conservatively dressed farm girl, to a nearly bikini clad warrior. Everyone really liked her transformation. She became more competent, confident, and effective while becoming sexier. Red Sonja is a hot, sexy, competent, intelligent warrior. I think fondly of Brigitte Nielsen. Be faithful to characters and lore, or FAIL.
I miss the good times with Xena and Buffy!
Sure, but Xena simply gets a pass by that progressive crowd because the showrunner thought it was a good idea to queerbait that part of the fanbase in later seasons. It was one of the complaints leveled at it near the end of its run.
Not to mention she got pretty jacked in later seasons.
I honestly have little issue with Hellboy being a supernatural slasher with Hellboy stuck in it. It may actually work.
They need to trash whatever was made and start over!
I like Red Sonja in the Conan the Adventurer TV series. She had attitude.
why does this video have a SydneySweeney tag? Am I missing something?
Red Sonja is being recast by rapper Sexy Red!!
I wonder what Hollywood will look like and what lessons they will learn if EVERY movie they make done this way flops. People need to vote with their wallets. Honestly, what the shutdown taught me is I don't miss going to the theaters so I definitely will not see that I know is crap. Most of it is crap so I can easily pass or just wait.
I have zero faith in this remake being anything but modern trash with a thin veneer of Red Sonja
They pocketed the money for the new hellboy film, it looks like dogshit