Translating Finnish Songs #6 | Säkkijärven Polkka ▫️ Eastern Dialect is HARD 😰
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Watch me try to decipher Finnish Eastern dialect in this video where I try to go through the Säkkijärven Polkka lyrics!
✰ Säkkijärven Polkka by Eemeli: • Säkkijärven polkka
✰ Säkkijärven Polkka by Viljo Vesterinen: • SÄKKIJÄRVEN POLKKA, Vi...
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0:00 Song Background
1:56 AD italki
3:50 Title
4:30 Part 1
6:20 Part 2
8:19 Part 3
11:03 Part 4
12:24 Part 5
14:08 Part 6
16:47 Part 7
18:20 Part 8
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Note that the eastern dialect expression "suvinen sää" means specifically a WARM spell of winter weather (above 0 Celsius), not all winter weather. In other words it means the same as Standard Finnish "suojasää". In that way it seems to have a connection to the western dialect "suvi" meaning summer.
🥫 pikkusen on šuvieńi rokka, šyö pois. (Uhtua)
suvie haalea lukewarm
In Estonian "suvi" means "summer". There's also a well-known "suvivirsi" (summer hymn) that has been traditionally sung at the end of the school year in May.
Ohhh okay! That makes more sense 😂
13:08
< Hey! Let the horse lament and clench its teeth,
when it has a larger head! >
The saying comes from The Kalevala. It basicly means that you shouldn't worry about unnessecary things, when you can let someone else do it for you.
"Älä murehdi, anna hevosen murehtia - sillä on isompi pää. Sanonta on peräisin Kalevalasta, niin kuin monet suomalaiset sanonnat ovat. Kun Pohjan neito on lähdössä kodistaan vaimoksi seppä Ilmariselle hän vaikeroi lähtöään, mutta...
Lauloi lapsi lattialta, kasvavainen karsinasta: "Mitä neien itkemistä, suuresti sureksimista! Anna huolia hevosen, murehtia mustan ruunan, rautasuisen surkutella, suuripäisen päivitellä! Hevosell' on pää parempi, pää parempi, luu lujempi,kaulan kaari kantavampi, koko ruumis runsahampi." (Confusing Text in the song "Säkkijärven polkka" reddit)
SANONNAT saying, apothegm, adage
idiomi / idiom (set phrase which cannot be understood from its parts alone)
Synonym: sananlasku / proverb
Synonym: kansanviisaus folkway (belief common to members of a society or culture)
kansan (“people's”) + viisaus (“wisdom”)
🐎"Anna hevosen murehtia, sillä on isompi pää."🐴
"Huomista on turha murehtia, tänään eletään tätä päivää, huominen on vasta huomenna ja tämän päivän murheissa on aivan tarpeeksi tälle päivälle."
"Joskus on ollut aika, jolloin meitä ei ole vielä ollut olemassa Se ei meitä huolestuta Miksi siis murehtia aikaa, jolloin me lakkaamme olemasta?."
Ohh thanks for the info!! 🙏🏻✨
Interesting thing about this song is that it was used during WW2 to jam radio controlled explosives placed by Russians when retreating from the town of Viipuri (now Vyborg), therefore saving countless civilian lives.
Yes I read about that and also thought it was interesting! 😮
I think it is more correct to talk about Ceded Karelia (Luovutettu Karjala) that means a part of Karelia that Finland had to cede to the Soviet Union in 1940 and again in 1944, now part of Russia. There are still two Finnish provinces that include the name of Karelia: North Karelia (province centre Joensuu) and South Karelia (province centre Lappeenranta). A Ceded Karelia included Ladoga Karelia and Karelian Isthmus with three Finnish cities, Viipuri, Sortavala and Käkisalmi.Then there's a traditional Russian Karelia that includes Olonets Karelia (Aunuksen Karjala) and White Karelia (Vienan Karjala).
Good point! Thanks for the added info!
I am learning Finnish because I want to integrate into the culture here in Oulu. I'll check out this link, it might actually help allot. Thank you!
Kiitos! :)
kiitos täst kivasta videosta! käsittele Maustetyttöjen biisit ”soitin sulle sanoakseni en mitään”, ”takapajula”, ”se oli SOS”. ja myöskin Iben biisin ”Blondina” 🙏🏻🥲
Kiitos! Noi on kyl hyviä biisejä! :D
"Hepo" is probably an ancient loanword for a horse. A "hippodrome" was a Byzantine, Roman, Greek stadium for horse racing.
Makes sense!
A great way to start the year! 🤓 one of my personal goals is to sing Finnish songs from memory and this helps me a lot 🙌🏻 kiitos!
Yay ✨💙
Hi kat! so, my favorite song is sakkijarven polkka!
i've know about it for years even since before i had interest in learning finnish.
but i find the song very whimsical, and just has a lot of good enerygy!
When i took interest in learning finnish i found your channel, like a 2 weeks ago lol.
and saw about a week into learning that you did song translations
and i was really really wanted to see if you had done sakkijarven polkka, and well here it is!
i just want to say if i ever make it far into the finnish language
i'll forever remember you as the one who held my hand past the first steps
and probably so many people will think the same way
so i want to collective you thank you for all the work you put into these.
thank you.
Oh my what a kind message. Kiitos paljon 🙏🏻💙
Nice, thanks for video. I checked out the links and like 3.7 million views! That was over 9 years....doing a little math, that is just over 400 views every hour. Thanks again, Kiitos.
Thanks for the video, "Säkkijärven polkka" is probably my most favorite Finnish song of all times! Since you have struggled before with Savonian dialect when trying to translate Ievan polkka, have you been thinking of doing a video about characteristical differences between the dialects how people pronounce things like "mä", "mää", "miä", etc ? If you havent already of course...
I’d love to chat with someone that speaks in dialect and hear from them but I don’t know anyone 😩 but your idea is a good one!
There is still parts of Karelia inside of Finland and they are called as South and North Karelia and I am myself Finnish Karelian Finn born on the 1980's.
And as there is already mentioned suojasää is warm winter weather.
And I assume you knew already that Suvivirsi means Kesävirsi
Good points! Thanks for all the added info :)
Kiitos. 😊
I can't really follow the lyrics yet but there seems to be more than one version of this one too Eldankajärven jää. One of my top ten favorite Finnish songs.
kiitos
Thanks for the video. I think that translating the meaning of songs can often be difficult. I think maybe because the poetic nature of the words and the idea that is being conveyed. I guess you have to be a native to understand it well and even then.
Very true! :D
Since we are speaking about Karelia, here's a song suggestion: Karjala Takas by Portion Boys. 🙂 It's a double entendre song.
I live in eastern-Finland ! ❤
Mierontie means homeless people and beggers. 'Hepo surkoon ' means: let the horses worry , because horses have bigger heads. (Niillä on ihmeesti suurempi pää)
There's something wistfully beautiful about Säkkijärven Polkka and I've liked it since first hearing years ago.
So kiitos paljon for translating the Eastern dialect words - seemed you enjoyed it too. At least, I hope so (muhaha, see how you like decoding Finnish....).
Seem to remember a Leningrad Cowboys version... here> ruclips.net/video/uHVVBiSnnck/видео.html
Ohh I'll check that out!
Suvi also means south or southern wind
Moi!Again a nice & instructive video!Thks!I have a little question...Korpiklaani (Finn Folk/Metal) have news songs called "KotoMaa" and "Mettään".Why it's not "KotiMaa" & "Metsään?(They are from Lahti)...If you know, why i'm curious...Thks again, my skill in Finnish grew up with your vids!Moikka!
It’s sounds like a dialect to me!
Your thumbnail looks like Sheldon Cooper trying to explode someone's head using thought control. 😂
OMG HAHAHA that’s too funny 😂
Thanks for the video! I hope you will do more songs translations! 🥰Is the expression "mieron tiellä" is just regional? Cause you can find it in some contemporary songs like OG Ikonen - Mieron Tiellä.
Oh perhaps! And yess I want to make more from time to time 😊
@@KatChatsFinnish By curiosity I googled it and I've found that this word was used in some articles published on the Helsinki newspapers (HS, IS, IL). My level of Finnish is still too low to understand articles, but I think this "mieron tie or mieron tiellä" could be a fixed expression of the literary language. Maybe an idea for some future videos. ☺😜
There's a saying in Finnish, "let the horse do the grieving, it has a bigger head", so I guess it means that as a horse has a bigger head, it can do a bigger duty on the sorrow front, it is a bit humorous saying. But it is a way of shrugging off sad thoughts. "Ihmeesti" could also mean, not only surprisingly, but also just "a lot", like "miraculously" (which I would say is the most fitting translation).
On the word "suvi" - what you cited from Kotus says "talvinen SUOJAsää", and "suojasää" means weather with temperature above zero Celcius (so usually late in the winter when the snow starts to melt etc.).
Thanks for the info! I had no idea about that saying 😅
Please, make same video with Njet, Molotoff🙏
Hyvää uutta vuotta,pls how do i order food in restaurant,fast food pls do in demonstration with your friend.
I am trying to learn more Finnish so that I can understand Käärijä better when he speaks Finnish. 🤓 I am miles away from that goal though. 😄 I can only pick up a word here and there.
Step by step! :D
4:48 'Region in Eastern Finland that is not a part of Finland anymore'? What?! 🤯
Karelia is a much larger region that what is shown on the very strange map you picked. It can refer to a historical province of Finland or a region of Karelia as a whole. East Karelia, for example, was never a part of Finland.
Finland still has North Karelia and a part of South Karelia.
Joensuu and Lappeenranta are inside Karelia and parts of Finland.
Oh I was talking about Säkkijärvi specifically not Karelia as a whole 🙈
When you have swedish subtitles the word "eastern" is translated (by google) "oriental".....😎😎👍👍
Oh gosh ahaha
Isn't that song too which is used by finnish army to block the signal of Soviet to protect themselves for mines?
Yep!
😍😍
How many major dialects does Finnish have? I found it is interesting even a native speaker has trouble understanding the eastern dialect. Is it rare for you to hear those dialects via TV, radio and so on?
I think officially there are 8 which you can see here: www.kotus.fi/en/on_language/dialects/finnish_dialects_7541
I think the trouble I also have is the song is old so some phrases aren't in common use anymore. And people don't speak like a song in everyday life xD But it's true I definitely don't hear regional accents in everyday media much, in Helsinki at least.
@@KatChatsFinnish Kiitos:)
I think at least four main dialects: häme, lappi, hesa and savo. I live in Mikkeli, so I speak savo-dialect.
The dialects in Karelia go under quite remarkable changes in every village and region, I've always found it wrong to bunch them together based on a few similar characteristics. The variability and words only used in Karelia might make it difficult for others to understand, but believe me when I say that it can be very difficult to understand what people from Turku, or even worse from Rauma, are trying to say. You can hear the dialects in a regional radio or TV station, be aware the hosts almost always speak written Finnish.
Thanks for the translation. Now here's a link to the song:
How do u say guitar 🎸 in finnish?
gui tar
KI tar a
Ibaloi kitara
Polish kitara (cithara)
Samoan kitara
Slovene kitȃra
Ultimately from Ancient Greek κιθάρα (kithára).
Swahili kitara from Omani Arabic (kittāra, “sabre”), from Hindi कटार (kaṭār)
Kitara! :)
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What is then a mouth harp called (jew's harp) in finnish?
I had to check that up from the dictionary. :D It's called munniharppu in finnish. I had heard it before but it's not a common instrument around Finland. Apparently munni is in some finnish dialect a mouth. Never heard it used in a sentence though. So in a way it is also a mouth harp in finnish. :D
I’ve never heard of it either until now 😅
Hyvin sä vedät. Seuraavaks ievan polkka? :D
Haha kiitos! Oon tehny Ievan Polkan jo :D
No sehän pitää katsoa! :)
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I find it interesting that you have trouble to understands some words as i understand them all and im from the turku region
I grew up speaking more English maybe that’s why 😅😅
Moi