I think the MacBooks battery life is a huge selling point, but what ultimately convinced me to get a ThinkPad was the fact that I could just open it for cleaning and changing the battery myself. Can't stand getting pushed to buy a whole new PC because of avoidable obsolescence.
TBH even tho im for Windows team, this is pretty much dumb reason.. holding something against the system that you have to do once every two years or so doesn't seem like good argument :D
@@brookswashere3400 I'm not sure what maintenance you a re talking about.. back cover comes easily off and you can blow the dust yourself, other than that i'm not sure what would one consider maintenance
Underrated channel. That’s how you do a review without directly influencing the purchasing decision of viewer. He gave a use case for both machines. Thank you!
It's because he is British, young sir, not an American, which is to say he has some level of intelligence instead of blindly creaming himself all over the camera every time Apple farts. -Ivan Miochic, with love from Russia 💙
Great review!!! I own both the M1 MacBook Air and the X1 Carbon and wow I have to agree with EVERYTHING you said and it's rare that I agree 100% with a reviewers assessment. I too prefer the X1 Carbon for all the reasons you listed (ports and ability to upgrade the SSD is a big advantage). Re: price differential, Lenovo runs lots of sales you just have to be vigilant and patient and you'll find that you can get the X1 Carbon at significant discounts (e.g., $300-400 off on a good sale).
You make a good point here. I've found killer deals on mine. I even have a Lenovo P15 Gen 2 that I paid $1,229 for and it came with 32 GB and 1TB. Easy to upgrade and maintain. You can easily find certified refurbished deals online or even on Ebay with warranty intact. Great way to save.
I don't know how Lenovo could create the best keyboard in the laptop, and Apple create the best trackpad in laptop, if they combined, that would be insane.
Really enjoy these reviews. No beating around the bush, just diving straight in with a pretty straightforward and structured video. Keep this going, you have a great formula
YAY!!! This is the Review we have been waiting for. Two, of the BEST, Cutting Edge machines compared head to head !!! REAL Comparisons that people can use👌👌👌👍👍👍
I was close to getting an X1 extreme, but due to delays and the M1's fanfare, ending up with the M1. I have to note, the M1 isn't just for casual users; I'm a developer and running an IDE, browser w/devtools, VM (w/some youtube in the background) it doesn't break a sweat. I push it when constantly running e2e tests though. I envy the Thinkpad's ports though, and like you, prefer the look. Also, not everything is compatible with the ARM64, and Windows is still ubiquitous in the business world.
@@PsycosisIncarnated Yeah, went with the 16GB (I was afraid 16GB wasn't enough but the M1's memory management makes it very fast). Many people really liked the Air, but I occasionally need the MBP fans to kick on when running heavier workloads. This M1 remains one of the best deals unless you need additional power/ports of the new Pro/Max models.
@@Joel-yp4yt im getting into eng and do u think i should get thw m1 air or an old x1 carbon for half the price, gonna learn start coding so compatibility is really going to be imp to me
@@Sahilwanders I can only speak for web dev, but using mac or linux is probably best since they're unix-based and most docs/tutorials use unix commands - sounds like a small benefit but when you're learning, having to look for equivalent windows commands gets tedious (I started learning on windows) If you want to save money, you can try using x1 with linux or wsl, but mac is probably easiest to jump in and use out of the box. I'm still using the original m1 and no problems at all. I've also seen videos where the m1 air outperforms top-end intel macs with some video editing tasks and although I can't speak from experience, it's quite impressive
Also, good luck on your journey! If you can afford an extra wide monitor (or at least a cheap regular one) it is a huge productivity-booster when coding.
Great comprehensive review as always! Both great laptops and I agree with your conclusion for general purpose use you just can't beat the solid Apple package and that CPU is just on another level but like you I would probably opt for the Thinkpad as I use Linux.
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed it. I plan on installing linux on the carbon tomorrow, hopefully I can get it all up and running, I haven't used linux for a few years
Side-by-Side Comparison!! You did an amazing job, thank you for doing these and I hope you'll continue this style. Not that words don't matter, but it's more objective and trustworthy when a reviewer actually presents the evidence of what they're claiming about the devices being reviewed :D On a side note, most people don't seem to understand, that the M1 still has *BETTER PERFORMANCE UNPLUGGED* than the best Ryzen chips, which is where it matters most. Running heavy-duty tasks on MacBooks on battery without losing both Battery Life or Performance too much, has always been a huge benefit of Apple laptops, even when they were Intel.
Thank you mate, I really enjoy making these so plan to do more. Do you think I covered everything? There is so much to try and cover and I really could have added another 15 minutes!
@@MashITTech I suspect majority will probably prefer shorter content, which is why many older tech channels (ie. MobileTechReview) have simplified and reduced their content, to get more people to watch. Personally I absolutely prefer longer content with timestamps, because they're the most helpful when I'm trying to learn something new and interesting, or actually interested in buying a product (ie. JarrodTech and Techtesters) You're review style reminds me a lot of LTT's reviews, which I surprisingly found to be of the most useful even though that's not the main focus of their channel. Linus does a good job of easily explaining useful things from a potential user's perspective than other reviewers, who just test benchmarks and describe the hardware that's there, which many written reviews are better at doing. I LOVE your presentation and content, but sadly it may not be the most popular style to "get the views", since a lot of tech-review audience are tech-addicted enthusiasts who watch for "fun", rather than potential-consumers who are genuinely curious and looking to buy. Anyways, I think you're fantastic just the way you're doing right now! 👍
Thank you mate, I appreciate that. To be honest, I cate less about popularity and more about doing what I enjoy which is delving right into these laptops. As long as I can make enough money to keep buying new laptops I am happy. It is good to know there are people out there still want the in depth content and I think I would struggle to make a 5-10 minute review like Dave2d anyway.
thanks for the review/comparison between both laptops. i bought a refurbished thinkpad carbon x1 gen6 2018 and set it up and acclimated immediately to it and i dont miss the macbook pro 2016 at all. in fact, x1 gen6 has more functionality and can customize much better than the macbook pro. the only thing the macbook pro is tops is with the batter power versus the refurbished one. im sold on the gen 6 just by being able to replace the battery. the last time you were able to do so on the macbook pro was in 2008.
I just bought an X1 gen 4 from a college surplus store. It was sold as scrap for $10. It has an 7 with 8gb ram, no ssd, and a 1440 display. I can't find what they thought was wrong with it, it works great. I'm all in with the ssd and charger for under $50
I absolutely abhor trackpads and always have, so I’m buying a Thinkpad until the bitter end. Once you go into the track point settings and adjust the sensitivity up, you can whisk the pointer around the screen with very little input and you never need to move your fingers away from the front row keys.
I have been using ThinkPad x380 yoga for 3 years. It's amazing. As you mentioned, it has one of the best keyboards around. Durability is another major advantage of thinkpad.
@@MashITTech I also really want to change it into a new thinkpad. But when I bought a new thinkpad, I had to spend about a year working continuously without spending money on food and other services.
That great keyboard in ThinkPad x1 .. I love coding on that fast enough think pad. Plus you have think pad doc station.. just doc and use your accessories awesome.. windows hello saves me from entering that 16 character length password 😀
I own both of these laptops. Both are nice. The m1 is usually laying around the house living room or kitchen and I use it to surf the web, emails, research, plug it into the TV and watch movies or Netflix and edit photos on it. The ThinkPad is in my bag or desk. And I do my work from it, and run my business with it. There is a banking program I need to use for business and it doesn't even open or run on the mac. So each have thier use.
Watching your video for the first time and i really liked your way of reviewing so professional, unlike other reviewers. subscribed your channel right away
Great video! Love your comparisons. The gen 9 Just recently became more available in store in my area so I’m probably going to head to a Lenovo store and try it out.
Let me know what you think of it! I really love the machine. I just got an X1 extreme into the office so I might compare those two if people are interested. The X1 extreme looks a little dated but has a lot of power so might be an interesting comparison
@@MashITTech I went into the Lenovo store and ended up buying the carbon! It was between this and the nano . Brought it home just a couple of hours ago. It was the ports and speakers that made the difference for me. It’s very nice. I feel I will really enjoy this one. It’s the LTE model as well 👍.
Thank you mate, yes a great day thanks, we actually have decent weather here in the UK at the moment so I am making the most of it! Hope you are having a good day too :)
Nice comparison! I use both a MacBookPro and a Lenovo laptop (T560) and for me I prefer the matte screen. But what almost always is forgotten.. With a Mac you can start right away after unboxing, no need to pay extra for an office suite.. It is included in the operating system. (I don't want to go in discussion if a virus scanner is neccesary ...) Another point is the cooperative working with other Apple products; copy on one device and paste it on the other (Apple)device, airdrop etc.
Thank you for this very complete and well organized review! Certainly the best I saw comparing both MBP M1 and Lenovo X1 Carbon. I just bought a X1 Carbon after saw all your video. I am a new subscriber.
ThinkPad X1 Carbon was an easy choice for me absolutely love the laptop especially for that all black case, keyboard, and compatibility. They are both great machines though for sure.
I'm watching this late, but I just ordered the Thinkpad X1 Gen 9 and have been using an M1 Macbook since May of 2021. I'm also in IT and I think this was a fantastic review. I got the X1 for versatility as well, but that's primarily because Apple Silicon, while a huge step forward, introduces some issues with virtualization and compatibility issues for some tools (Nessus as a prime example). The Macbook has been fantastic, and if my primary uses didn't require my edge use cases, I'd be sticking with it for many years. Great job with this.
The real issue with the windows laptop is at the time of buying, they work and perform the best. After 5 years of use, they barely perform. But the MacBook will be serving the same as years go by. You will see real degradation in MacBook only after 8 years or later.
Thanks mate, I will give one a try. I am going to push myself to actually use it (I may disable the touchpad for a bit to force it as I naturally move to the touchpad)
Yeah, but you have to custom order that from some where or 3d print one. I find that the standard track point on my X1 Nano is quite a lot nicer on the fingers. I imagine it is a similar mechanism (3mm track point) on the Carbon Gen 9. Even still, I am using a "soft rim one" I rarely use the trackpad. Only on occasion.
@@MashITTech Yes. But most people only have one or two machines, also they will only choose one kind of OS. For me, if I have to use a non-apple machine, like Thinkpad or XPS, I will choose to install the Ubuntu or CentOS. Because I can not leave terminal. Now windows has terminal, and linux subsystem, but it is still not as convenient as the original linux. The only reason I have to use Windows is Microsoft Office.
@@MashITTech But we have to admit that not every one needs terminal and programming, but most people needs MS office. Also, windows devices have more choices, and the Apple hardwares are much more expensive.
That's an amazing review man! I am in the market for a new laptop as my old 6 year old Asus RoG is slowly dying. I am literally between the Air, X1 and Dell xps 13. This review is a huge help. I might add that I'm studying towards IT and cybersecurity so VMs and RAM matter a lot. The decisions couldn't be harder 😂
@@sairam7669 Hey. I am literally minutes from ordering the new 9510 xps 15. In Canada, it's on a "Friday deal" with 470 bucks off so just over 2k. I decided not to go with Lenovo since they are sold out in Canada AND they are horribly expensive.
@@ambroze88 so youre choosing the one with the dedicated gpu? Also the thinkpad x1 is available where i am rn for actually lesser price tho obviously it dosent have a dedicated gpu. So would you choose it in case you got the x1 for the same price?
Excellent review! I picked the M1 air for myself, but I did look at both the M1 pro and the X1 carbon. Personally, I'm not bothered by the ports, and IMHO the M1 air is hands down the best value you can find in the laptop landscape right now if the limitations of the M1 macs don't bother you. I was half expecting it in the conclusion as a throwaway "for most people what you should really buy is the M1 air", but oh well. I do have to say that X1 looks sleek, much fancier than the M1 macbooks, and it is surprisingly well designed. Nicely done by Lenovo.
Thank you. And you know you are right, the air is the best option for most people, I stupidly didn't think to mention that I was comparing it to the pro!
I purchased the X1 carbon gen 9 because of the keyboard, look, and software compatibility for business use. I also like the retro look as I learned on an IBM machine. In 2012 I purchased the MacBook Pro and Ike enjoyed it because it just worked. The only issue I found was I the business community generally uses windows applications. I use Microsoft office at work and the software is different on the mac. I still prefer Apple but found the price too high and they don’t have deep discounts like Lenovo. I don’t like that the new laptops are eliminating ports so I would like to find a good port extender. What do you recommend? I dislike cords and attachments. I did purchase an external DVD burner.
Great review and has helped me loads..as I’m getting more into teaching at different sites the thinkpad is definitely better for me because i am sent lesson plans via other people who use mainly widows my Mac will not open most of them so think I’ll end up buying the thinkpad
Finally, a Macbook review that is not all about Adobe Premiere and Final Cut Pro. I respect the content creators, but they're definitely not the only ultrabook users. Sincerely - Ultramobile Powerpoint Painter / Excel Cruncher.
Yeah I know what you mean. The problem is most people that create RUclips video just focus on what they need (video and photo editing) and whilst I obviously care about that too I would rather edit on a desktop and use these laptops for what they are designed for!
I prefer the air (own both) , but I can't run VS in a VM on the arm chip (with acceptable performance) so I use the x1 most of the time. The lack of a good windows environment on the M1 macs is going to be a problem for devs.
Its matte vs glossy, I personally like X1's matte screen so much, its like reading paper any time indoor or outdoors, my eyes always feel very comfortable, never get sore...happy with the tiny bit colour, sharpness sacrifices. I just cannot stand glossy screens and the all sorts of reflections on it, plus its basically unusable outdoors.
You are so completely right. I think windows manufacturers are going to have to start lowering prices to become competitive against apple, that is something I never thought I would hear myself saying!!
Thank you for sharing such balanced information. I hear reviews about the Lenovo NOT being designed for Content Creators - Do you find that to be true? vs. the Mac having better webcam quality, etc.
God, I just want them both. The mac because it’s beautiful, and the thinkpad for linux. I am wondering if Apple going forward will be more or less developer friendly. If they ported all GNU tools (like valgrind) and opened themselves up to linux I think they would kill it.
With the battery life, low heat, better screen, and fast chip honestly its Macbook Pro for me. Even though throwing Manjaro on the thinkpad would probably be amazing I doubt it will be as good as Mac for what I do. I want to want the Carbon so bad but I just can't.
Hi Cody, yeah it is always a tough decision. I really love the m1 macbook and definitely recommend it to most especially casual users, but for me, I have to vote with the ports and matte screen. Now if the rumoured macbook pro 14" comes with m1x and ports then even I may have to switch to a macbook
A perfect review and a real comparison for people who have to work on it and not just fancy to look at - honest and straight. thank you a lot, subscription on and please make more videos like this!
A big plus to think pads is that they are regularly sold on second hand markets for far under their MSRP. They are marketed as business / workstation laptops so companies will buy them in bulk and upgrade them a few years later, where they dump the old ones on eBay for waaaaay cheaper than their original price. Could pick up a thinkpad that’s a couple generations older for 1/3 the price of a MacBook. It’s easily upgradable as well, which isn’t the case for Mac
Excellent review. Just a $200 difference at 16gb. Fastest cpu gpu. Other than amd and intel 8 cores cpus and dedicated gpus best trackpad sharper screen better battery all metal apple. Limited app and os selection. Great base price quiet and cool with the iphone chip. Faster on battery clearer speakers. Durability repairability upgradeability ssd battery wan card ports usba hdmi thunderbolt 4 not three egpu multi monitor resistant keys face id with privacy shutter louder speakers keyboard soft touch tons of apps and linux hackintosh hotter and louder although not really hot and loud lises some performance unplugged for a four core it actually us almost as fast as the m1 in single core and about 25 percent slower in multi plugged in that is. Games games games.
You know you can buy a USB dongle for allowing multiple screens and extra ports. Also Linux will be officially supported on the M1 soon. The reason to get a carbon is if you need Windows and Intel..
Yea but its not the same performance and there are other issues with refresh rate etc. Those go away with true thunderbolt 4 and a seperate hdmi in top or that and usba and upgradeable by the owner ssd wan and battery. If you need osx or their recent m1 bug sur apps. Macbook is the answer if not fir almist everything the thinkpad is just as fast except video rendering as apple has included deciders fir almost every format. Still the four core intel behaves more like a six core m1 so you are getting about 80 percent if the performance. And gaining a ton of features. Screen is not as sharp but its bugger with smaller bezels. Its like a give and take i can see how someone would live either of them. Although base model price if the macbook are a steal until you add ram and storage.
I didn't understand why the MBP M1 booted up too slow in this video. My MacBook M1 Air boots up nearly fast as Lenovo X1. Mine is the 16 / 256 GB version.
Mine is only 8gb but I wouldn’t have thought that would make much difference. I tested a few times and mine always boots this speed. I don’t even have a lot of start up tasks or anything to slow it down 😢
In the end I still prefer the thinkpad by far because I can use windows/linux on it without dongles. and the design is just super sweet. unfortunately the paint started to come off mine after a few months of use.
I think it largely depends on which brand you like or particularly dislike. And then just one of the devices has a trackpoint. As much as I'd like to experience MacOS (being a Linux user), I feel reluctant because of all that marketing BS and "closed shop" attitude (if that makes sense).
I personally prefer the Windows or Linux operating system myself, but if we're not taking that into consideration, I'm still choosing the Lenovo. The keyboard is the main think I look at when choosing a laptop and nothing beats a Lenovo. Pair the amazing keyboard with a good selection of ports and a super slick and iconic design, and you got yourself a winner. Lenovo ThinkPad Carbon is my choice.
I'm thinking of getting a Thinkpad X1 Carbon with Linux on it. Hopefully things like audio quality are the same as Windows, as Lenovo sells them with Linux. Do you think there will be any firmware problems with Linux? I'm also thinking about pursuing a career in IT.
I really wouldn't overstate the rugged part. As soon as the Chinese took over, quality steadily declined. The only notebook that ever died on me due to falling was an X250. Safely enclosed in a thick neoprene case, it fell on the floor from about 3' and greeted me with a broken screen backlight. Solid ThinkPads are a thing of the past really.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. What a shame, obviously I cant afford to test the X1 carbon with a drop test but I had hoped with the build and testing they would still be pretty rugged :(
@@MashITTech Well, it is just anecdotal evidence, of course, but they used to build them a lot better. I'm not saying they're _worse_ in that department than everybody else, but not that special anymore, either.
I was thinking between: A) X1 Carbon with 256GB SSD, 14” 1920x1200 non-touch screen, win 10 pro B) LG Gram 17 with 512GB SSD, 17”2560x1600 non-touch screen, win 10 C) One Mix 4 with 1TB SSD, 10.1” 2560x1600 touch screen and pen, convertible, win 10 A, B, C all with i5 1130 G7 and 16GB RAM Or D) MacBook Air M1, 8GB, 256GB, 13.1” 2560x1600 non touch, M1 MacOS All 4 options cost roughly the same, somewhat more than $1.000. The use would be to self study for CCNA exams with official books, I guess will need a packed tracer, which I’m not sure is available for M1 MacOS.
I have a Macbook Pro M1 and it gets very loud and hot when doing CPU intensive tasks, like exporting photos with Lightroom. It’s way louder than my Lenovo T470s when doing the same task.
Great review. I would be interested in knowing if the x1 can run a 4k external monitor at 144hz.The M1 Macbook specs says it doesn't but when I tried it I was pleasantly surprised to see that it does. I would love to know.
If the Lenovo had a Ryzen 5800u it would smoke the M1 in CPU performance. But I don't think there are any laptop using that chip yet. AMD struggles a lot with supplying chips to customers wich is the reason why many brands still choose for intel over AMD.
This is the best comparison between the two top rank laptops available right now on the market. I am totally make up my mind after seeing this video. I know which one to choose from now. Thank you so much.
I still can't get over the fact that Lenovo didn't put a 2K screen in the X1C gen9, it's so below the average in this price category. at FHD+ resolution x1c9 is not only just overpriced but more importantly, that resolution (or rather lack of) will be a direct impact on user experience. IF it had a 2K screen option I'd probably already have purchased it. Personally I'm really interested for a comparison between the X1C and the upcoming new X13. I feel like the X13 will be a more sensible product. It's either X1 nano to go full out portable, or X13 for best functionality. The X1C really feels oddly positioned, at least to me personally.
I'd enjoy hearing your opinion on the 2021 LG gram series. I'm still undecided between the x1 nano, x1 carbon gen 9, and the LG gram. I haven't seen anything else that is interesting to me. I'm not really in the market for a Mac.
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I think the MacBooks battery life is a huge selling point, but what ultimately convinced me to get a ThinkPad was the fact that I could just open it for cleaning and changing the battery myself. Can't stand getting pushed to buy a whole new PC because of avoidable obsolescence.
TBH even tho im for Windows team, this is pretty much dumb reason.. holding something against the system that you have to do once every two years or so doesn't seem like good argument :D
@@jgvbadv the cost of owning a MacBook is really high when basic maintenance requires you to take it to a specialized store
@@brookswashere3400 I'm not sure what maintenance you a re talking about.. back cover comes easily off and you can blow the dust yourself, other than that i'm not sure what would one consider maintenance
@@jgvbadv battery replacement or a storage upgrade is basic maintenance
@@jgvbadv 7yrs old macbook air still has 8hrs.
Underrated channel. That’s how you do a review without directly influencing the purchasing decision of viewer. He gave a use case for both machines. Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words
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@@MashITTech you did a great review. Thank you
It's because he is British, young sir, not an American, which is to say he has some level of intelligence instead of blindly creaming himself all over the camera every time Apple farts. -Ivan Miochic, with love from Russia 💙
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Great review!!! I own both the M1 MacBook Air and the X1 Carbon and wow I have to agree with EVERYTHING you said and it's rare that I agree 100% with a reviewers assessment. I too prefer the X1 Carbon for all the reasons you listed (ports and ability to upgrade the SSD is a big advantage). Re: price differential, Lenovo runs lots of sales you just have to be vigilant and patient and you'll find that you can get the X1 Carbon at significant discounts (e.g., $300-400 off on a good sale).
Hi Jet Martin, thanks for the kind words. And yes, good point on the discounts 👍
You make a good point here. I've found killer deals on mine. I even have a Lenovo P15 Gen 2 that I paid $1,229 for and it came with 32 GB and 1TB. Easy to upgrade and maintain. You can easily find certified refurbished deals online or even on Ebay with warranty intact. Great way to save.
It's the beginning of 2023 and I just bought a X1 gen 9 for $1500 CAD ( $1100 usd) directly from Lenovo. Worth the wait for this beautiful machine.
got it at -1200 bucks with easter + student discount
I don't know how Lenovo could create the best keyboard in the laptop, and Apple create the best trackpad in laptop, if they combined, that would be insane.
is there any foreign company ducking copyright laws and putting both of these into a single shell? I'd buy
@@andrewferguson6901 dont push chinese, we will even put LG screen and sony speaker to it
@@hanyaimantanpabuktinyata8541 I'm pushing. Do it. I'll buy
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Really enjoy these reviews. No beating around the bush, just diving straight in with a pretty straightforward and structured video. Keep this going, you have a great formula
Thanks Scott, I really enjoy making these comparisons so your feedback is much appreciated
YAY!!! This is the Review we have been waiting for. Two, of the BEST, Cutting Edge machines compared head to head !!! REAL Comparisons that people can use👌👌👌👍👍👍
Haha thanks mate, I hope you enjoy it
@@MashITTech The way you explain the details in any of your reviews are clear, precise and through 👌
Is there anything really cutting edge on the X1? For this generation they've only put in a new display.
@@vivenreddy Theres not a lot you can change when you're already rocking top specs in every way. Both these machines are art.
...when Gordon Ramsay does a laptop review.
an excellent one, I might add.
Haha I will take that as a compliment and try not to swear 😂
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Am a new subscriber and all i can say is that your reviews are really good.Very informative.Thank you
Thank you for the kind words
Bro, you deserve a thundering applaud 👏. Subscribed. Hope you make more contents like this.
Thank you mate. I do plan on making more comparison videos as I really enjoy making them as long as people want to watch them :)
Like you mention the x1 you can put egpu with the latest graphics cards and turn it into a powerful desktop..
It's just easier to get a laptop with a discrete gpu then and call it a day. Or a x13 flow.
After watching your video i can say there's still a hope a for windows laptops. That's a good relief
Without doubt, this is the best review I've seen. Thanks for your hard work on this mate- very helpful to make a decision.
Thank you mate, glad to be able to help 👍
The best laptops reviews around RUclips. I love your channel even more now that I have bought my new brand X1 Carbon gen 9.
Thank you so much for the kind words
that was *great* and *fair* review. thanks.
I was close to getting an X1 extreme, but due to delays and the M1's fanfare, ending up with the M1. I have to note, the M1 isn't just for casual users; I'm a developer and running an IDE, browser w/devtools, VM (w/some youtube in the background) it doesn't break a sweat. I push it when constantly running e2e tests though. I envy the Thinkpad's ports though, and like you, prefer the look. Also, not everything is compatible with the ARM64, and Windows is still ubiquitous in the business world.
Hey man did you get the 16gb modell ? I imagine it's the best for programming
@@PsycosisIncarnated Yeah, went with the 16GB (I was afraid 16GB wasn't enough but the M1's memory management makes it very fast). Many people really liked the Air, but I occasionally need the MBP fans to kick on when running heavier workloads. This M1 remains one of the best deals unless you need additional power/ports of the new Pro/Max models.
@@Joel-yp4yt im getting into eng and do u think i should get thw m1 air or an old x1 carbon for half the price, gonna learn start coding so compatibility is really going to be imp to me
@@Sahilwanders I can only speak for web dev, but using mac or linux is probably best since they're unix-based and most docs/tutorials use unix commands - sounds like a small benefit but when you're learning, having to look for equivalent windows commands gets tedious (I started learning on windows)
If you want to save money, you can try using x1 with linux or wsl, but mac is probably easiest to jump in and use out of the box. I'm still using the original m1 and no problems at all. I've also seen videos where the m1 air outperforms top-end intel macs with some video editing tasks and although I can't speak from experience, it's quite impressive
Also, good luck on your journey! If you can afford an extra wide monitor (or at least a cheap regular one) it is a huge productivity-booster when coding.
Proper review, and even has captions? Subbed.
Thanks so much 😀
the only channel which goes in depth review... love it! hopefully this will make me decide which to get for work laptop!
Thank you for the kind words, if you need any advice just ask 👍
Great comprehensive review as always! Both great laptops and I agree with your conclusion for general purpose use you just can't beat the solid Apple package and that CPU is just on another level but like you I would probably opt for the Thinkpad as I use Linux.
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed it. I plan on installing linux on the carbon tomorrow, hopefully I can get it all up and running, I haven't used linux for a few years
thanks for such comprehensive review! very important for viewers who are looking for more technical reviews
Thanks, I am glad it was helpful :)
Side-by-Side Comparison!! You did an amazing job, thank you for doing these and I hope you'll continue this style.
Not that words don't matter, but it's more objective and trustworthy when a reviewer actually presents the evidence of what they're claiming about the devices being reviewed :D
On a side note, most people don't seem to understand, that the M1 still has *BETTER PERFORMANCE UNPLUGGED* than the best Ryzen chips, which is where it matters most.
Running heavy-duty tasks on MacBooks on battery without losing both Battery Life or Performance too much, has always been a huge benefit of Apple laptops, even when they were Intel.
Thank you mate, I really enjoy making these so plan to do more. Do you think I covered everything? There is so much to try and cover and I really could have added another 15 minutes!
@@MashITTech I suspect majority will probably prefer shorter content, which is why many older tech channels (ie. MobileTechReview) have simplified and reduced their content, to get more people to watch. Personally I absolutely prefer longer content with timestamps, because they're the most helpful when I'm trying to learn something new and interesting, or actually interested in buying a product (ie. JarrodTech and Techtesters)
You're review style reminds me a lot of LTT's reviews, which I surprisingly found to be of the most useful even though that's not the main focus of their channel.
Linus does a good job of easily explaining useful things from a potential user's perspective than other reviewers, who just test benchmarks and describe the hardware that's there, which many written reviews are better at doing.
I LOVE your presentation and content, but sadly it may not be the most popular style to "get the views", since a lot of tech-review audience are tech-addicted enthusiasts who watch for "fun", rather than potential-consumers who are genuinely curious and looking to buy.
Anyways, I think you're fantastic just the way you're doing right now! 👍
Thank you mate, I appreciate that. To be honest, I cate less about popularity and more about doing what I enjoy which is delving right into these laptops. As long as I can make enough money to keep buying new laptops I am happy.
It is good to know there are people out there still want the in depth content and I think I would struggle to make a 5-10 minute review like Dave2d anyway.
Excellent presentation, so thanks for posting. I'm an Apple guy since 1983, but I would still choose the Lenovo over the M1 MacBook Pro.
You’ll change your mind after the M1X 14in MacBook Pro comes out later this year absolute beast of a machine
@@DannyJWald kindly elaborate
just purchased a x1 carbon gen 9, look forward to receiving it soon
Hope you enjoy it
thanks for the review/comparison between both laptops. i bought a refurbished thinkpad carbon x1 gen6 2018 and set it up and acclimated immediately to it and i dont miss the macbook pro 2016 at all. in fact, x1 gen6 has more functionality and can customize much better than the macbook pro. the only thing the macbook pro is tops is with the batter power versus the refurbished one. im sold on the gen 6 just by being able to replace the battery. the last time you were able to do so on the macbook pro was in 2008.
I just bought an X1 gen 4 from a college surplus store. It was sold as scrap for $10. It has an 7 with 8gb ram, no ssd, and a 1440 display. I can't find what they thought was wrong with it, it works great. I'm all in with the ssd and charger for under $50
I absolutely abhor trackpads and always have, so I’m buying a Thinkpad until the bitter end. Once you go into the track point settings and adjust the sensitivity up, you can whisk the pointer around the screen with very little input and you never need to move your fingers away from the front row keys.
I have been using ThinkPad x380 yoga for 3 years. It's amazing. As you mentioned, it has one of the best keyboards around. Durability is another major advantage of thinkpad.
Are the fans loud?
@@EA-ln3uh No. They are very quiet which is one of the positives of this laptop. Very rarely you may here a mild sound.
really good. i love thinkpad. I am still using a thinkpad bought many years ago. I am still completely satisfied with what it brings
Thank you. Glad yours is still going strong :)
@@MashITTech I also really want to change it into a new thinkpad. But when I bought a new thinkpad, I had to spend about a year working continuously without spending money on food and other services.
Now, that's what I call a comparison. Great Job
That great keyboard in ThinkPad x1 .. I love coding on that fast enough think pad. Plus you have think pad doc station.. just doc and use your accessories awesome.. windows hello saves me from entering that 16 character length password 😀
X1 carbon ... I will chose X1 any day over Apple.
The x1 is almost thrice as expensive and is slower
I own both of these laptops. Both are nice. The m1 is usually laying around the house living room or kitchen and I use it to surf the web, emails, research, plug it into the TV and watch movies or Netflix and edit photos on it. The ThinkPad is in my bag or desk. And I do my work from it, and run my business with it. There is a banking program I need to use for business and it doesn't even open or run on the mac. So each have thier use.
Excellent review, very unbiased, I just love Lenovo but this review is exactly what I was waiting for for a long time
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it 👍
I like the way you did the comparison. Great in-depth review
Thanks so much
great review, u balance it greatly and pick the right consumer for both devices on top of that.
Thank a lot :)
Watching your video for the first time and i really liked your way of reviewing so professional, unlike other reviewers. subscribed your channel right away
Thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Great video! Love your comparisons. The gen 9 Just recently became more available in store in my area so I’m probably going to head to a Lenovo store and try it out.
Let me know what you think of it! I really love the machine. I just got an X1 extreme into the office so I might compare those two if people are interested. The X1 extreme looks a little dated but has a lot of power so might be an interesting comparison
@@MashITTech yeah I think it would be an interesting comparison. Especially if the graphics upgrade to the extreme is worth it.
@@MashITTech I went into the Lenovo store and ended up buying the carbon! It was between this and the nano . Brought it home just a couple of hours ago. It was the ports and speakers that made the difference for me. It’s very nice. I feel I will really enjoy this one. It’s the LTE model as well 👍.
Great video, ThinkPad runs Linux so it's the winner for me
Absolutely why I went with the X1 Carbon
Yep. Me too. Just playing around with Linux atm
That's the reason why I'm watching this video
me as well
coder guy
Great vid 😊 I hope youre having a good day!
Thank you mate, yes a great day thanks, we actually have decent weather here in the UK at the moment so I am making the most of it! Hope you are having a good day too :)
After having used MacBooks for years, I switched to a Thinkpad x1c 6 several years, and I cannot be more satisfied.
Nice comparison! I use both a MacBookPro and a Lenovo laptop (T560) and for me I prefer the matte screen. But what almost always is forgotten.. With a Mac you can start right away after unboxing, no need to pay extra for an office suite.. It is included in the operating system. (I don't want to go in discussion if a virus scanner is neccesary ...)
Another point is the cooperative working with other Apple products; copy on one device and paste it on the other (Apple)device, airdrop etc.
I'm never ever going to buy any of these laptops, but for some reason I enjoy your content. Subscribed 😇
haha thanks very much
Oh god your videos make me wanna buy a Thinkpad!
Haha sorry
Thank you for this very complete and well organized review! Certainly the best I saw comparing both MBP M1 and Lenovo X1 Carbon. I just bought a X1 Carbon after saw all your video. I am a new subscriber.
ThinkPad X1 Carbon was an easy choice for me absolutely love the laptop especially for that all black case, keyboard, and compatibility. They are both great machines though for sure.
Yep, me too. Just love that old school Thinkpad look plus the ports....
@@MashITTech Definitely, having a few ports including USB-A is a must.
I'm watching this late, but I just ordered the Thinkpad X1 Gen 9 and have been using an M1 Macbook since May of 2021. I'm also in IT and I think this was a fantastic review. I got the X1 for versatility as well, but that's primarily because Apple Silicon, while a huge step forward, introduces some issues with virtualization and compatibility issues for some tools (Nessus as a prime example). The Macbook has been fantastic, and if my primary uses didn't require my edge use cases, I'd be sticking with it for many years. Great job with this.
Great review! Very technical and very objective(unlike other channels), loved it. You got a new sub, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad you enjoyed it 👍
The real issue with the windows laptop is at the time of buying, they work and perform the best. After 5 years of use, they barely perform. But the MacBook will be serving the same as years go by. You will see real degradation in MacBook only after 8 years or later.
Excellent review. Thank you. I went with the Thinkpad X1.
Good choice!
I’ve been waiting for this 🧖🏼
That's greatful comparing. Thanks
The best review and comparison video I've watched .. thanks 🤘
Wow, thanks!
I have a thinkpad and I am using the trackpoint all the time, but not with the standard cap, try "soft rim" , you will love it.
Thanks mate, I will give one a try. I am going to push myself to actually use it (I may disable the touchpad for a bit to force it as I naturally move to the touchpad)
Yeah, but you have to custom order that from some where or 3d print one. I find that the standard track point on my X1 Nano is quite a lot nicer on the fingers. I imagine it is a similar mechanism (3mm track point) on the Carbon Gen 9. Even still, I am using a "soft rim one" I rarely use the trackpad. Only on occasion.
The problem with m1 is its compatibility, as an engineering student, a lot of professional apps won’t run on M1. What a shame
Oh that is a shame, is that because they are not on Mac OS or do they just not work with the m1 chips?
@@MashITTech Both
Well this only made it so much harder to decide haha
Haha sorry
Super présentation // superb demo with honesty !
The reason why I buy MacBook is always not the price, performance, or appearance, but the OS.
Yes, for some the OS is the most important aspect. I use Mac, Windows and Linux so I can use pretty much any machine
@@MashITTech Yes. But most people only have one or two machines, also they will only choose one kind of OS. For me, if I have to use a non-apple machine, like Thinkpad or XPS, I will choose to install the Ubuntu or CentOS. Because I can not leave terminal. Now windows has terminal, and linux subsystem, but it is still not as convenient as the original linux. The only reason I have to use Windows is Microsoft Office.
@@MashITTech But we have to admit that not every one needs terminal and programming, but most people needs MS office. Also, windows devices have more choices, and the Apple hardwares are much more expensive.
You can install macOS in the Thinkpad
That's an amazing review man! I am in the market for a new laptop as my old 6 year old Asus RoG is slowly dying. I am literally between the Air, X1 and Dell xps 13. This review is a huge help.
I might add that I'm studying towards IT and cybersecurity so VMs and RAM matter a lot. The decisions couldn't be harder 😂
haha, tell me about it! this is why I got into this in the first place!
can i know what youve decided cause im doing the same and the decision is mind boggling?
@@sairam7669 Hey. I am literally minutes from ordering the new 9510 xps 15. In Canada, it's on a "Friday deal" with 470 bucks off so just over 2k. I decided not to go with Lenovo since they are sold out in Canada AND they are horribly expensive.
@@ambroze88 so youre choosing the one with the dedicated gpu? Also the thinkpad x1 is available where i am rn for actually lesser price tho obviously it dosent have a dedicated gpu. So would you choose it in case you got the x1 for the same price?
@@sairam7669 I went with xps 15. No more doubting and researching. Time to upgrade :)
Exactly what I need, thank you so much!
Glad it helped :)
Excellent review! I picked the M1 air for myself, but I did look at both the M1 pro and the X1 carbon. Personally, I'm not bothered by the ports, and IMHO the M1 air is hands down the best value you can find in the laptop landscape right now if the limitations of the M1 macs don't bother you. I was half expecting it in the conclusion as a throwaway "for most people what you should really buy is the M1 air", but oh well. I do have to say that X1 looks sleek, much fancier than the M1 macbooks, and it is surprisingly well designed. Nicely done by Lenovo.
Thank you. And you know you are right, the air is the best option for most people, I stupidly didn't think to mention that I was comparing it to the pro!
I purchased the X1 carbon gen 9 because of the keyboard, look, and software compatibility for business use. I also like the retro look as I learned on an IBM machine. In 2012 I purchased the MacBook Pro and Ike enjoyed it because it just worked. The only issue I found was I the business community generally uses windows applications. I use Microsoft office at work and the software is different on the mac. I still prefer Apple but found the price too high and they don’t have deep discounts like Lenovo. I don’t like that the new laptops are eliminating ports so I would like to find a good port extender. What do you recommend? I dislike cords and attachments. I did purchase an external DVD burner.
Such a detailed review ! Kudos brother 👏🏽
Glad you liked it!
Great review and has helped me loads..as I’m getting more into teaching at different sites the thinkpad is definitely better for me because i am sent lesson plans via other people who use mainly widows my Mac will not open most of them so think I’ll end up buying the thinkpad
Well, you also get the joys the amazing thinkpad keyboard which is the best laptop keyboard on the market IMHO 👍
Finally, a Macbook review that is not all about Adobe Premiere and Final Cut Pro. I respect the content creators, but they're definitely not the only ultrabook users. Sincerely - Ultramobile Powerpoint Painter / Excel Cruncher.
Yeah I know what you mean. The problem is most people that create RUclips video just focus on what they need (video and photo editing) and whilst I obviously care about that too I would rather edit on a desktop and use these laptops for what they are designed for!
Great review Bro！ You always know what I expect.
I appreciate that! 👍
I prefer the air (own both) , but I can't run VS in a VM on the arm chip (with acceptable performance) so I use the x1 most of the time. The lack of a good windows environment on the M1 macs is going to be a problem for devs.
Excellent review!! Thanks brother
Thank you mate
The display quality difference is massive. Rich accurate colors vs dull ones.
Mac is better screen isn't it
Its matte vs glossy, I personally like X1's matte screen so much, its like reading paper any time indoor or outdoors, my eyes always feel very comfortable, never get sore...happy with the tiny bit colour, sharpness sacrifices. I just cannot stand glossy screens and the all sorts of reflections on it, plus its basically unusable outdoors.
Omg I love this video is so relaxing and I love your accent
haha thank you :)
I can’t justify how much more that Lenovo costs. It’s so expensive and doesn’t give nearly that much more performance over the Mac.
You are so completely right. I think windows manufacturers are going to have to start lowering prices to become competitive against apple, that is something I never thought I would hear myself saying!!
I have never dropped my laptops but when it did, it completely damaged my thinkpad. So for the first time, I switched to MacBook.
Thank you for sharing such balanced information. I hear reviews about the Lenovo NOT being designed for Content Creators - Do you find that to be true? vs. the Mac having better webcam quality, etc.
Well done and crisp!
Thank you :)
God, I just want them both. The mac because it’s beautiful, and the thinkpad for linux. I am wondering if Apple going forward will be more or less developer friendly. If they ported all GNU tools (like valgrind) and opened themselves up to linux I think they would kill it.
Thats my issue. I have the Mac Book pro M1, but some of my classes require us to run Windows 10 on VM's. So, I might just have to get an X1.
For an electronic engineer, Thinkpad all the way!
With the battery life, low heat, better screen, and fast chip honestly its Macbook Pro for me. Even though throwing Manjaro on the thinkpad would probably be amazing I doubt it will be as good as Mac for what I do. I want to want the Carbon so bad but I just can't.
Hi Cody, yeah it is always a tough decision. I really love the m1 macbook and definitely recommend it to most especially casual users, but for me, I have to vote with the ports and matte screen. Now if the rumoured macbook pro 14" comes with m1x and ports then even I may have to switch to a macbook
A perfect review and a real comparison for people who have to work on it and not just fancy to look at - honest and straight. thank you a lot, subscription on and please make more videos like this!
Hi Nico, thank you. And yes, we love doing comparison videos so plenty more coming
A big plus to think pads is that they are regularly sold on second hand markets for far under their MSRP. They are marketed as business / workstation laptops so companies will buy them in bulk and upgrade them a few years later, where they dump the old ones on eBay for waaaaay cheaper than their original price. Could pick up a thinkpad that’s a couple generations older for 1/3 the price of a MacBook. It’s easily upgradable as well, which isn’t the case for Mac
Excellent review.
Just a $200 difference at 16gb.
Fastest cpu gpu. Other than amd and intel 8 cores cpus and dedicated gpus best trackpad sharper screen better battery all metal apple.
Limited app and os selection.
Great base price quiet and cool with the iphone chip.
Faster on battery clearer speakers.
Durability repairability upgradeability ssd battery wan card ports usba hdmi thunderbolt 4 not three egpu multi monitor resistant keys face id with privacy shutter louder speakers keyboard soft touch tons of apps and linux hackintosh hotter and louder although not really hot and loud lises some performance unplugged for a four core it actually us almost as fast as the m1 in single core and about 25 percent slower in multi plugged in that is.
Games games games.
You know you can buy a USB dongle for allowing multiple screens and extra ports. Also Linux will be officially supported on the M1 soon. The reason to get a carbon is if you need Windows and Intel..
Yea but its not the same performance and there are other issues with refresh rate etc.
Those go away with true thunderbolt 4 and a seperate hdmi in top or that and usba and upgradeable by the owner ssd wan and battery.
If you need osx or their recent m1 bug sur apps.
Macbook is the answer if not fir almist everything the thinkpad is just as fast except video rendering as apple has included deciders fir almost every format.
Still the four core intel behaves more like a six core m1 so you are getting about 80 percent if the performance. And gaining a ton of features.
Screen is not as sharp but its bugger with smaller bezels.
Its like a give and take i can see how someone would live either of them.
Although base model price if the macbook are a steal until you add ram and storage.
I didn't understand why the MBP M1 booted up too slow in this video. My MacBook M1 Air boots up nearly fast as Lenovo X1. Mine is the 16 / 256 GB version.
Mine is only 8gb but I wouldn’t have thought that would make much difference. I tested a few times and mine always boots this speed. I don’t even have a lot of start up tasks or anything to slow it down 😢
In the end I still prefer the thinkpad by far because I can use windows/linux on it without dongles. and the design is just super sweet. unfortunately the paint started to come off mine after a few months of use.
Are the fans noisy?
I am thinking of getting the one with ryzen 5500
Another great video!!! Amazing content 😎
Thank you 😀
I think it largely depends on which brand you like or particularly dislike. And then just one of the devices has a trackpoint. As much as I'd like to experience MacOS (being a Linux user), I feel reluctant because of all that marketing BS and "closed shop" attitude (if that makes sense).
You can install Linux on X1 and virtualise anything.
I personally prefer the Windows or Linux operating system myself, but if we're not taking that into consideration, I'm still choosing the Lenovo. The keyboard is the main think I look at when choosing a laptop and nothing beats a Lenovo. Pair the amazing keyboard with a good selection of ports and a super slick and iconic design, and you got yourself a winner.
Lenovo ThinkPad Carbon is my choice.
that is exactly the same reasoning as me :)
Are the fans noisy?
Brilliant review. Purchasing decision can solely be made based on this review alone. That's what it's all about.
Thank you, that is really kind of you to say :)
I'm thinking of getting a Thinkpad X1 Carbon with Linux on it. Hopefully things like audio quality are the same as Windows, as Lenovo sells them with Linux. Do you think there will be any firmware problems with Linux? I'm also thinking about pursuing a career in IT.
I really wouldn't overstate the rugged part. As soon as the Chinese took over, quality steadily declined. The only notebook that ever died on me due to falling was an X250. Safely enclosed in a thick neoprene case, it fell on the floor from about 3' and greeted me with a broken screen backlight. Solid ThinkPads are a thing of the past really.
Oh wow, sorry to hear that. What a shame, obviously I cant afford to test the X1 carbon with a drop test but I had hoped with the build and testing they would still be pretty rugged :(
@@MashITTech Well, it is just anecdotal evidence, of course, but they used to build them a lot better. I'm not saying they're _worse_ in that department than everybody else, but not that special anymore, either.
I was thinking between:
A) X1 Carbon with 256GB SSD, 14” 1920x1200 non-touch screen, win 10 pro
B) LG Gram 17 with 512GB SSD, 17”2560x1600 non-touch screen, win 10
C) One Mix 4 with 1TB SSD, 10.1” 2560x1600 touch screen and pen, convertible, win 10
A, B, C all with i5 1130 G7 and 16GB RAM
Or D) MacBook Air M1, 8GB, 256GB, 13.1” 2560x1600 non touch, M1 MacOS
All 4 options cost roughly the same, somewhat more than $1.000.
The use would be to self study for CCNA exams with official books, I guess will need a packed tracer, which I’m not sure is available for M1 MacOS.
Lemovo thinkpad series is really amazing
I have a Macbook Pro M1 and it gets very loud and hot when doing CPU intensive tasks, like exporting photos with Lightroom. It’s way louder than my Lenovo T470s when doing the same task.
wow really! the fan just never seems to spin up on mine unless I am exporting a long video
You did a very good job 😉!
This video helps me!
Glad it helped! :)
Great review. I would be interested in knowing if the x1 can run a 4k external monitor at 144hz.The M1 Macbook specs says it doesn't but when I tried it I was pleasantly surprised to see that it does. I would love to know.
ah sorry, I wish I had a 4k 144hz monitor! I have been wanting one for ages but it is usually out of stock in the UK
@@MashITTech Thanks for the reply! I think I got lucky when I snagged one, they are mostly out of stock here as well..
Sir, why are you so breathless when explain this laptop?, btw, this is a great and underrated channel
haha it was the mic we were using! fortunately we have a better mic set up now :)
If the Lenovo had a Ryzen 5800u it would smoke the M1 in CPU performance. But I don't think there are any laptop using that chip yet. AMD struggles a lot with supplying chips to customers wich is the reason why many brands still choose for intel over AMD.
the X13 gen 2 might just do it when it is released! As soon as it is available I will order it and test 👍
I am pleased, extremely satisfied old boy! Nice one.
Haha spiffing! 😀👍
This is the best comparison between the two top rank laptops available right now on the market. I am totally make up my mind after seeing this video. I know which one to choose from now. Thank you so much.
Thanks so much. What did you buy?
X1 Carbon G9.
I still can't get over the fact that Lenovo didn't put a 2K screen in the X1C gen9, it's so below the average in this price category. at FHD+ resolution x1c9 is not only just overpriced but more importantly, that resolution (or rather lack of) will be a direct impact on user experience. IF it had a 2K screen option I'd probably already have purchased it.
Personally I'm really interested for a comparison between the X1C and the upcoming new X13. I feel like the X13 will be a more sensible product. It's either X1 nano to go full out portable, or X13 for best functionality. The X1C really feels oddly positioned, at least to me personally.
I will be ordering the x13 gen 2 ryzen as soon as it is released in the U.K. 👍
The Camera and Microphone on the X1 Carbon is a Shame. Unfortunately it has never been more important than now.
Totally agree!
I just saw your video on the T14 gen3. Would love a comparison of those two
what do you mean the T14 vs Mac?
I'd enjoy hearing your opinion on the 2021 LG gram series. I'm still undecided between the x1 nano, x1 carbon gen 9, and the LG gram. I haven't seen anything else that is interesting to me. I'm not really in the market for a Mac.
I have never tested an LG gram! I really should get one in, let me take a look :)
Best objective review. Thanks!
Thanks so much