Unison Bass Dragon I Got It So You Don't Have To | Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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Today I'm going to try out the new Unison "Bass Dragon" so you can see if its right for you.
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'AI' is this years marketing term . . . kids, there's no such thing, no one has invented AI, there's not even a consensus within the research field as to whether it will ever be possible, Unison didn't write an AI, they wrote some basic algorhthmic code, who even needs AI (if it even existed) to randomly generate some bass lines ? You can do it with basic code.
So many people have started calling machine learning 'AI', and it's not accurate at all its just a buzzword as you said. But what they did here with bass dragon could've definitely been machine learning as the guy in the ad said they trained it to 99% accuracy. A measure of how well it can predict the bassline given a key and a genre, testing itself with a given dataset. Still the basslines its generating are pretty bad so they should probably go back to the drawing board on this one
🎯🎯🎯 Bingo!
REAL TALK!!
ALL the shills use it!!
Nonsense. AI exists. It's not just a buzzword or traditional algorithm; it's a proven technology with significant impacts. Voice assistants like Siri and Alexa understand speech using natural language processing and machine learning, while Netflix predicts user preferences based on behavior. Self-driving cars navigate complex environments using deep learning trained on vast datasets. Algorithms are the building blocks, but trained AI models can learn and adapt. You wouldn't call a trained chess program 'just an algorithm' because it strategizes and wins. Similarly, self-driving cars process data, make decisions, and learn from experience rather than relying on pre-programmed routes. Traditional algorithms are static instructions for predefined tasks, whereas AI models learn and adapt over time, improving autonomously. They tackle complex challenges like speech recognition, disease diagnosis, and autonomous driving through pattern recognition and data-based decision-making. This adaptability makes AI far more sophisticated than static programming. These applications prove that AI is a dynamic, innovative field, transforming how we interact with technology and making impactful real-world decisions. Two things can be true at once: 1. Many use AI as a marketing buzzword, and 2. AI does indeed exist.
I appreciate this review. I was glad I was able to look at a non biased review. It's either a person is sponsored so they gonna overhype the product or the other extreme where they trash it which seems like the most common one. Yes I understand there are products that can do similar or maybe more like a whole DAW. That's is like someone complaining about a person deciding to go to a steakhouse to enjoy food when they can get a 2 for 20 at Applebees. I just wanting to know is the steakhouse food good lol. So I was able to see the functionality of the product and see if it is useful. Thanks for the solid review.
i like that analogy lol n yea bro for me theres no need to over hype it, im not trying to convince anyone to buy , why would i need to, when unison already have their market of producers , this is a review for them and others that are interested. i appreciate you taking the time to watch the video bro, much love for the feedback
I'm no hater, I have My thoughts and opinions on Unison but I'll just mention a cupple of points 1 Seph said there is no other plugin like this that generates basslines. This is not true there are sevraul including My DAW of Choice Reason, which has a device called Bassline Generater and can do everything Bass Dragon does and more. Reasons bassline generater is a exter cost off $80 on ontop of the $400 Daw and plungin but I think you get way more with Reason Studios for $500 then Unison.
first bro just want to say i appreciate your perspective rather than trying to insult each other we dont need more of that in the producer community so respect but i honestly didn't hear him say that (not saying he didnt) but at the end of day i like unison and i dont think its for everyone but to each his own
Yeah, that's great for the 6% of the people who use Reaper but does nothing for the other 94%.
@@JaeFreshmen Part of the reason why I'm trying to be polite and respectful is because you did a non bios look at the plugin, you did not change what you think to please Unison you pointed out both what you liked and didn't like. I see alot of producers who show Unison products never dare to say anything negative, giving people a false representation.
@@obiwan5999 I didn't mention Reaper I said Reason at at the cost of $500 dollar you get 4 different samplers, 5 sythersizors, 3 drum machines 3 sample bassed devices sounds of includ realistic choir, African drums, scales and cords, Beat midi generator, midi generator arpeggiator, multiple effects, thousands of samples.
@@HOLLASOUNDS My bad, Reason is at 3% of users so...
Jay, what are your thoughts on Unison attacking negative review videos with copyright strike takedowns? Care to share with your viewers?
And this right here is what I'm taking about... do you get paid to get mad at something that has nothing to do with you??? funny people... do what they eat make you sh@#?? answer that... he doesn't have to have an opinion on it... has nothing to do with him... im going to leave job because you got fired??? and mess up my family??? this is the problem... people dont mind there own damn business these days...
Your entertaining what Ave and others are saying like what they say and make makes your world go round??? there problem is there problem not no one elses... ohh did ave make a video on bass dragon since it dropped???? no..... ill wait....
@@Barrygraybeatz because we don’t want to see other people get screwed over by a predatory company that makes trash plugins. It’s called a society.
@@Barrygraybeatz said, "...mess up my family."
Interesting you want to talk about family. How much does that whyiite boy Seph (Unison's owner) pay you to sell out YOUR subs...YOUR family?
Barry Gray Beatz = sellout
@@Barrygraybeatz - Barry Gray Beatz is silent when he gets the hard questions. What's the matter Barry, didn't Unison give you a cue-card to answer my last question? Guess not...
good review fam. off topic. get some acoustic treatment for your room to eliminate that flutter echo.
Thanks for making this video. Which method of writing a bassline do you prefer? Bass Dragon in a DAW or Pad perform on MPC?
honestly probably the mpc because i get to play it out and thats the current machine im using to make music right now but when iam engineering in a seesion and making a beat i use fl and i will use bass dragon if an artist is in a different genre or to help give me an idea
And from me watching this video, you just gotta full fledge subscribe right now. Thank you. I’ve been waiting on a video like this for a long time I have all of them to. I think people is crazy if they don’t get this and making music. What’s up world?
i appreciate it bro most producers are just prideful for no reason , i made beats from scratch for a long time , but that dont even matter at the end of the day people just want to hear good music no matter how you put it together
Well said
I love your outlook .
thanks bro , perspective and accountability is important
I can do this with Hexachords Orb, 808 Studio or Audiomodern's stuff. They all have sequencers for bass. Waste of money. Yeah I'm biased.
cool
🎯🎯🎯That's not biased, that's just good sense, not fallin' for the hype.
Can you do a video how you use the pad perfrom
thats in the works but may take a little time because im still new to the mpc if thats what your talking about
Hey man appreciate you i was looking into this since i started producing and doing it myself is aigh I'm new I'm getting a grid also watching videos but aye yo watching this you had me at your theory of the software before you even said it i thought about it and is use the software to learn yourself you don't need to use it if you don't want to but you can have a path drawn by it and you can go from there if your struggling with an idea also like you said it helps you finger drum or whatever you playing if you using a Midi or just a keyboard so you got a new sub bruh 🙏
hey man i appreciate the feedback much love n welcome to the journey bro try to not be prideful to do everything yourself, with people is better and don't get to attach to your music always put it out you can always learn and do better on the next track
@@JaeFreshmen wise words my guy will take note of that much appreciated will love forward to your content
@@JaeFreshmen it disappoints me to see people like you shilling for unison. You’re as bad as the grifters themselves. You went into this video knowing about captain chords and scaler and chose to sell out. You should be ashamed to call yourself a producer.
To me it doesn't matter just make music you think people care what you use and all the others producers stop hating on people using it and it's only a tool and you can make your own patterns you dont have to use the A.i generator if they get a hit you would you it also.
I thought you could load the samples/loops as midi allows, it would be great
Yes you can
yea that wouldve been fire i thought so to
@@Barrygraybeatz you can load the samples or are you talking midi?
Duh lol
@@JaeFreshmen are you talking about one shorts or other midis??
Is it value for the insane cost?
for me bro its just comes down to how much you see the value in it, there's obvious a market for unison so there many producer that value them and theres other companies that producer value more and that can be because the cost as well , i don't think anybody should knock anybody for what they see value in
@@JaeFreshmen Personally, I don't like to rely on this type of product to write music. It might be a tool to throw up ideas or break writer's block, but not at the price they are asking. As an old bloke, my, old fashioned, way of working is to have the idea in my mind, write it straight into scoring software using piano and percussion. When done export the result as midi to my DAW and then work it up using vsts or my hardware synths.
When someone answers your Yes/No question with an entire paragraph, it means they're trying to sell you.
Seems like a useful vst but its at a crazy price. P. S Its hard to hear anything on a phone when you choose the trap genre as its so quiet and basic. House or drum and bass would have been better.
Thanks for actually doing a review rather than not buy it and trash like other videos I saw today.
yea i seen those, my thing is theres obvious a market for unison so if your not a consumer of unison then why knock others that see the value in their product
@@JaeFreshmen Haters gonna hate.
@@JaeFreshmen Because they're a predatory company that have a history of making money on selling stuff that you can get for free?
@@whistletom i respect your opinion but i think you got to look more into how business are built , almost everything you can get for free or less in this world but people don't buy into products first they buy into the companies first , if what your saying is true why would people buy drumkits when they can sound design their own, why buy midi/chord pack when you can just learn music theory, why buy vst when theirs free vst's and i'm not tryin to convince you other wise but that statement is very contradicting because if you sell beats why should anyone buy your beats when they can get beats for free and at the same time producers just make many accusation on unison but don't know what goes into making their own vst's so i slightly disagree that they only sell stuff you can get for free
@@JaeFreshmen you’re just BSing your way through any criticism. Asking why people buy drum kits when they can make their own is a pointless question. It’s far harder to sound design drums for genres and it requires much more creativity than basses. Buying kits and loops from professional sound designers allows you to splice and remake them into your own music. Bass is unbelievably simple for 95% of music and if your lazy there are multiple plugins for making lines at a FAIR price. Nobody is buying drum kits for $300 and they sure as hell won’t buy a bass plugin unless they’re tricked into it by shills like you. People buy VSTs because of the features they come with. Take UVI Falcon for example, its $300 and comes with literally infinite sound design capabilities, 94 built in effects, A MELODY AND BASS GENERATOR, granular, fm, wavetable, sampled, and modular synth engines, 750 factory presets, most of which actually sound great, and 64 step sequencing. It also includes a 200 page manual and a Venus Theory 8 video walkthrough. On the other hand, Bass Dragon comes with garbage ‘AI’ that can’t stay in key, minimal sampling features, and like 8 effects. That’s a grift. You’re better than this.
hi do it create ulimited basslines or is there just a few patterns in it ? why some people say its ai and some not?
many people just want to hate on unison but with all this ai stuff that's out i don't think it would be hard for them to apply it and from my experience i haven't came across the same baseline
@@JaeFreshmen its hard to find a reviw like this one everyone seems unserious can you make more videos about it just go trough some sounds whit some randoms basslines
@@BFHPET i make mpc videos as of now but don't think to hard about it bro its either you want it because you see value in it or just learn how to make your own bassline by watching tutorials
hey boy you dont make videoes about unison bass dragon anymore? @@JaeFreshmen
@@JaeFreshmen You can just hit "randomizer" in any daw and you will never get the same bassline.
Melodics and Unison Bass Dragon aren't really comparable, Melodics is music lessons for pads, electronic drums and keys and it will build your skills and the mistakes you make through physically playing can inspire you to build on the patterns you learn to make your music more creative and you could take a little inspiration from multiple patterns to create your own unique patterns and it will help you improve your timing on and off beat.
Every bassline Bass Dragon generates is very basic and inhuman, your basslines will lack originality because the odds of two different users getting the same pattern is very high because of how basic the basslines are, like a combination lock, less digits means it's easier to crack.
With the amount of editing you'd have to do to make it a good pattern and not sound hollow or soulless you may as well use scaler 2 or captain plugins for a much lower price with more features and better patterns if you insist on being a lazy beginner or learn to improve your basslines, this isn't a biased opinion, it's only an objective analysis with sound advice before any Sep D riders come at me with their overpriced Unison pitchforks.
"....overpriced Unison pitchforks." lmao!
Dude don't hate.... This AI (Bass Dragon) is very good. In fact, you can edit it to make your own bass lines. It has helped me since I got it especially with understanding how to make my bass fuller and with less Mud. It also has some good Bass sounds, which you can create your own BassLines in there without using the AI. Check my latest song out Arise 2 (Remix) by Alwayzfwd Beatz, that's the only song I have used it on and it was my first time too. Another song "Hold On" is coming soon, where I actually started getting a hang of it.
@@alwayzfwdbeatz ok I get it, you guys are down with the pseudo science!🤙
@@alwayzfwdbeatz - Anyone who uses the word, “hAtE” in defense of Unison is just another bot.
No one’s hating here pal. Unison is one of the most corrupt, toxic, peddlers of overpriced junkware in the production industry. They’re a joke at this point.
The ONLY people who don’t get that are clueless, benighted newbs.
The only people who don’t say that are in Unison’s pocket.
You need acoustic panels echo is cray I’m that room
i know bro but it will have to do for now
@@JaeFreshmen great video I’m setting up my home studio and have been looking into panels just all the equipment is not cheap.
@@aviondavis4019 much love n yea for me bro i live in thailand so shipping is not cheap and i haven't found any stores yet that have them, i try to avoid regular foam because the panels are better but im definitely going to get that fix might take a little time but thanks for still watching, i know it can be a bit annoying
Thanks Jae!
thanks for watching bro 🙏
Part 2
you want me to do a second video?
Bros fs deleting comments I ain’t never seen a unison review w positive feedback lol
What you said makes sense I’ve been saying these ai plugins are just tools that helps with writers block
yea bro and alot of producer don't want to learn the same way as the producers that came before them and thats alright but you have those producers thats been producing for a long time and are still attached to the old way of learning and hate the idea of ai because of the time it took them to learn vs getting the same results in seconds but i dont get caught up in that , im on both sides and just trying to bridge the gap
Unison is for lazy people who don't want to create their OWN bass lines
thats your own point of view bro like i mention in this video it can be a learning tool but i understand why people are quick to be negative
@@JaeFreshmen - Correction. People are quick to ACCURATELY identify Unison as a corrupt company with a well established reputation for selling generic, random-preset plug-ins with pattern generators for ridiculously high prices to newbies who don’t know any better.
Get real man…
@@JaeFreshmen Its not about being negative, Basslines even when I first started 20 years ago where easy from the start, infact that's often the easiest thing to do, you most of the time just take the lowest note of you cord progression and past the midi into a bass track. Its really not that difficult to create cords, melody, or bass, its literally 12 keys, just move the midi until it sounds good.
You looking at it all wrong more like enhancements for what you already have @jroc2k
@@BIGDAVEMUZIK I haven't looked at it that way
This plug-in is USELESS. I was excited to try it and returned it within 48hours! It seems great in theory so the only way to know how bad it is may be to try it 🤷♂️😆
It’s more the price that pisses me off
i can feel that
Hold up.. as a producer my positive action is to do me. I dont need some a i. To be me. Just my positive opinion..
respect but i will say using ai doesn't have to mean your not doing you
Lmao😂😂🤣 your dragon must be drunk or smoked some cheap drugs, cause it gave you twice the wrong scale. On top of that, you said one can take your time.... Isn't the point of bd to save time?
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i hate hip hop.
where's house music
Bro please drop it for free.
This joint is fire!! Lol 😅 unison trolls are dead silent 🤫 right now....😅
producer community is just bias on everything i just use what i find useful and if its not i leave it at that, thanks for watching
Barry Gray Beats
@Jae Freshmen I think a lot of them just jump on bandwagons honestly. This is my belief.... you shouldn't be able to give a opinion on something you don't own... how do you know if its good or not if you don't have it..midi wizard is dope need to be updated though,drum monkey is killing the game especially for urban sound, sound doctor is tuff but cpu heavy they need to fix that. Mangler is the only hit or miss there's other better ones like thickify.. and bass dragon.... nothing needs to be said..lol
@@JaeFreshmen can you do a review on drum monkey and midi wizard...😅 I really feel producers are missing out because of the trolls
@@Barrygraybeatz - The fact that none of Unison’s ridiculously overpriced plug-ins have no free trial is more than enough reason NOT to buy it just to see if we like it.
How much does Unison pay you to be their, “Yes Man” and sell out your viewers?
Glad I didnt buy it, load of shite boring basslines that just follow the chords and route note.
I'm sorry all there stuff is dope!! 😅 haters can hate but nothing is touching midi wizard,drum monkey,sound doctor or bass dragon
i use the unison blueprint drumkit faithfully😂
I think Reasons got alot more capable devices for alot less, I think for Midi Generators, including drums, bass, melodys they have it covered.
@HOLLA SOUNDS ummm what's a lot less.... if you want the full version of reason it's Over 300 so what's a lot less?? I got the light version and to upgrade its still almost 300... no thanks I'll stick with FL studio free upgrades for life... I own all major daws.... none touches FL
@@Barrygraybeatz - Ironic that you mention FL Studio since FL Studio basically has every the equivalent of Unison Audio plug-in included. Anyone who already owns FL Studio (or Reason) is a fool to by anything by Unison.
And if you’re the type to blow your money on 💩 like Unison junkware, I have no doubt that you do own every major DAW, but it’s highly unlikely that you’re remotely proficient in more than one or two of them. Anyone with any real experience in the industry knows that NO DAW beats any DAW hands down. Some are just better fits for certain producers.
You talk like a newb…
@@Barrygraybeatz Even just Using and Buying Reason to use as plugin you get way, way more for $500 then you would with Unison I'll just list some of it.
Thor, Modular Sythersizor, Europa Sythersizor, Grain Granular Sythersizor, Mimmic Creative sample, Beat Map Generater, Scale and cords, Bassline generater, thousands of samples. I think New producer's would do alot better with spending there money on Reason as a multi device plugin then all of Unisons plugins put together.
The Unison haters are very quiet 👀🤣 💩🔥
i never understood the hate but then again many producers don't know what its like to be in the music business or engineer for artist and having to manage so many things plus making content , i personally wouldn't drain all my mental power on just making beats from scratch even though i could but its just not efficient for me
@@JaeFreshmen A valid point however there is plenty of plugins on the market that do more or cost way less, that's the main reason Unison gets hate, they are overpriced and sold as the thing that will allow new producer's to make hit records.
They are probably being blocked.
@@JaeFreshmen said, “I never understood the hate.” How can anyone with integrity not condemn Unison Audio after they tried to control the narrative by attacking legitimate negative RUclips reviews with disingenuous copyright strike takedowns? Unison/Seph is as corrupt as it gets. Only the most corrupt RUclipsrs support them for a cheap buck and only the most naive newbies waste their money on Unison products.
Be real…smh.
@@JaeFreshmen well fuccn said!! Especially if you have deadlines... what's the difference from using this or midis??? It's the same to me honestly just less the hassle 😪