“Your art project”, aesthetic values might sound frivolous but there has been a growing clamor for years about the state of our cities. If clients want a building only for functionality, they have every right. Yet purely cost-focused projects don’t exist in isolation, people experience them and they influence the cities/communities. And it’s worth discussing what their impact is and how to build better.
well you got some points but easy to maintain or cost efficient.. Depends on your climate. I live in a rainy area and they decided to make alot of those "modern buildings" (I call them " Minecraft starterhouses ") but alot of those roofs are flat.. I don't think I have to say more then : Rainy... Flat roofs.. Long story short : Alot of costs add up in a short time.
And yet every single project goes over budget and way past due. Maybe if we had some standards that weren’t shit we would have beautiful buildings built on time.
Yeah but remember she spent seven years in college means she's heavily indoctrinated. The fact that she used that phrase at all shows ignorance. For example if she thinks capitalism has created boring architecture she should look at architecture in any communist country. Outside of statues, their buildings are terrible and their statues.Aren't that great on average either. And for us liberalism, if you look at the abstract art, they create.It's usually garbage but otherwise our architecture is still better when big businesses want to show off. For example , the capitals of giant companies like google for example, I think Apple, the inside creativity of Southwest, Which most people don't see but it's very creative. The architecture of some airports is not boring at all.
it's essential to recognize that these demands are often intensified by the pressures of late-stage capitalism. The prioritization of profit over artistic expression and community needs can limit architects' creativity and lead to cookie-cutter designs. So, while budget constraints are a factor, they're exacerbated by the broader systemic issues of late-stage capitalism. This is what I meant when I brought up the term in the vid
@@UnravelingArchitecture so by the same logic, the red tape and regulations that hamper architecture and infrastructure are systematic issues stemming from rampant neoliberalism and socialist policies.
I mean you can still make pretty buildings, but sure it does take more skill to make it fit a budget, but lets not pretend all options are out lol, many places manage to make gorgious buildings without handcrafted statues lol
This is too bad. made me remember how they tore down, beautiful, Penn Station and used all that granite and marble as filler for the foundation of the Meadowlands and in its place they built that glass and steel monstrosity MSG
It's a tragic reminder of the shortsightedness that often accompanies urban development decisions. The destruction of Penn Station, with its grandeur and historical significance, and its replacement with a modern structure devoid of the same character, speaks VOLUMES about the priorities of those “in power”. The loss of such architectural gems (and history!) highlights the need for a more thoughtful approach to urban planning that respects both history and beauty..
if your solution is just don't work for projects that are budget limited then you will never get a job again. the only way to have no one dictating your art as an architect is to go solo which the vast majority do not have the capital or clout to do.
That's not greed. Other people are under no obligation to fund your art project. Expecting to realise your own vision on someone else's dime - now that is greedy.
@@JonathanTrevatt its not about an art project. it is for some dumb architects, but for many its for the benefit of the entire city. the poeple who have to live and work in that area benefit greatly.
Architects are not the builders. They often don't get to do what they like in the building for fun, their client has a budget and tells them what they want. They can't control what the client wants or what the builders end up doing.
@emstink That's entirely besides the point and we all know it... "Not my job" is not an excuse to continue to not hit the mark, especially if it's an apparent pattern in the industry... Obviously *budget is a requirement, curves are going to be more expensive than corners, and a "client" is always going to want to spend minimal for max return or investment so why design a cylinder instead of a box and ever expect an alternate outcome from doing so...
Architect isn't a real profession. They make drawings and play with tinker toys. If they can make something out of Styrofoam and popsicle sticks, they figure it can be made 116 times bigger with concrete and steel. Engineers actually make it work. They are the real heroes of the construction story.
Work as an architect and you will understand, she is just being logical and the sad reality of capitalism and choosing the cheaper option. Money makes architecture.
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Beautiful explanation
Sad that money destroys beauty in architecture.
Basically, your client wants a functional building. They don't want to fund your art project.
No, they want a cheap building. People absolutely cut corners on functionality and safety, too, if they can get away with it.
@@Kitykitycoco Cheap, functional, artistic. Pick 2.
“Your art project”, aesthetic values might sound frivolous but there has been a growing clamor for years about the state of our cities. If clients want a building only for functionality, they have every right. Yet purely cost-focused projects don’t exist in isolation, people experience them and they influence the cities/communities. And it’s worth discussing what their impact is and how to build better.
Except modern buildings are so hugly and they wont last centuries
Then we have to save more money to make these beautiful architecture back to life.
Funny how old buildings esp in Europe hold their value better
There should be laws against ugly buildings.
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Ugliness is subjective
Architects rise up! Don't get bullied into the box!
well you got some points but easy to maintain or cost efficient.. Depends on your climate. I live in a rainy area and they decided to make alot of those "modern buildings" (I call them " Minecraft starterhouses ") but alot of those roofs are flat..
I don't think I have to say more then : Rainy... Flat roofs..
Long story short : Alot of costs add up in a short time.
And yet its still expensive
And yet every single project goes over budget and way past due. Maybe if we had some standards that weren’t shit we would have beautiful buildings built on time.
Oh damn. That's what I thought but that's so disappointing to hear.
Gargoyles should be mandatory
I agree!!!!
Heart breaking but very well explained
Very good video but regulatory issues causing more price hikes and delayed work is not late stage capitalism
Government interference is my favourite part of capitalism... Oh wait!
Yeah but remember she spent seven years in college means she's heavily indoctrinated.
The fact that she used that phrase at all shows ignorance.
For example if she thinks capitalism has created boring architecture she should look at architecture in any communist country.
Outside of statues, their buildings are terrible and their statues.Aren't that great on average either.
And for us liberalism, if you look at the abstract art, they create.It's usually garbage but otherwise our architecture is still better when big businesses want to show off.
For example , the capitals of giant companies like google for example, I think Apple, the inside creativity of Southwest, Which most people don't see but it's very creative.
The architecture of some airports is not boring at all.
Agree to disagree. Not that hard.
it's essential to recognize that these demands are often intensified by the pressures of late-stage capitalism. The prioritization of profit over artistic expression and community needs can limit architects' creativity and lead to cookie-cutter designs. So, while budget constraints are a factor, they're exacerbated by the broader systemic issues of late-stage capitalism. This is what I meant when I brought up the term in the vid
@@UnravelingArchitecture so by the same logic, the red tape and regulations that hamper architecture and infrastructure are systematic issues stemming from rampant neoliberalism and socialist policies.
I mean you can still make pretty buildings, but sure it does take more skill to make it fit a budget, but lets not pretend all options are out lol, many places manage to make gorgious buildings without handcrafted statues lol
This is too bad. made me remember how they tore down, beautiful, Penn Station and used all that granite and marble as filler for the foundation of the Meadowlands and in its place they built that glass and steel monstrosity MSG
It's a tragic reminder of the shortsightedness that often accompanies urban development decisions. The destruction of Penn Station, with its grandeur and historical significance, and its replacement with a modern structure devoid of the same character, speaks VOLUMES about the priorities of those “in power”. The loss of such architectural gems (and history!) highlights the need for a more thoughtful approach to urban planning that respects both history and beauty..
Yeah but the gargoyles are cool though
#bringbackgargoyles
Then don’t work for them. Just like I don’t work for a glass blowing company that dictates my art. Greed is a decision.
if your solution is just don't work for projects that are budget limited then you will never get a job again. the only way to have no one dictating your art as an architect is to go solo which the vast majority do not have the capital or clout to do.
That's not greed. Other people are under no obligation to fund your art project. Expecting to realise your own vision on someone else's dime - now that is greedy.
@@JonathanTrevatt its not about an art project. it is for some dumb architects, but for many its for the benefit of the entire city. the poeple who have to live and work in that area benefit greatly.
Wrong contemporary architects do not in fact understand much less know how to reproduce classical architecture.
Adam Something made a video about this recently, if I remember correctly
Government cost has driven the cost up and ate up the budget for fun.
Design the aesthetics with functionality in mind then...
Cant complain about budgets when you dont even meet the requirements in the first place
Architects are not the builders. They often don't get to do what they like in the building for fun, their client has a budget and tells them what they want. They can't control what the client wants or what the builders end up doing.
@emstink
That's entirely besides the point and we all know it...
"Not my job" is not an excuse to continue to not hit the mark, especially if it's an apparent pattern in the industry...
Obviously *budget is a requirement, curves are going to be more expensive than corners, and a "client" is always going to want to spend minimal for max return or investment so why design a cylinder instead of a box and ever expect an alternate outcome from doing so...
Builds can be functional and still look good
Facts
Just make them kinda pretty too :)
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Every art form lol
Nat coming in to lay down the law. Love it
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"Late stage capitalistic cycle" LOL! You mean total government takeover and corruption. This has nothing to do with free market capitalism.
Architect isn't a real profession. They make drawings and play with tinker toys. If they can make something out of Styrofoam and popsicle sticks, they figure it can be made 116 times bigger with concrete and steel.
Engineers actually make it work. They are the real heroes of the construction story.
Absolutely engineers are one of the heroes of construction! Architects are absolutely not because they are not involved in construction
As an engineer, this is a bad take. A good architect provides great value to a project.
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What type of engineer?
AKA you're Lazy
Work as an architect and you will understand, she is just being logical and the sad reality of capitalism and choosing the cheaper option. Money makes architecture.