Why did the British attack their French Allies in WWII?

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  • @Simplehistory
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    • @Xorevre
      @Xorevre 2 года назад +2

      Hi

    • @monk9008
      @monk9008 2 года назад +3

      Magically posted before video posted :o

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 2 года назад +2

      Mey

    • @arkay4387
      @arkay4387 2 года назад +1

      Ok.

    • @wira3359
      @wira3359 2 года назад

      Shush, am italy

  • @alphaxalex1634
    @alphaxalex1634 2 года назад +6245

    The answer is simple:
    *The UK has to attack France at least once a century and we realised it was almost half way through the 20th century*

    • @ineedmoreflavour1955
      @ineedmoreflavour1955 2 года назад +259

      Well that and because their ships would have been used against us by the Germans if we hadn't acted
      It was a sad part of the war - but necessary

    • @DeathbyDawn141
      @DeathbyDawn141 2 года назад +148

      Well yall have about 19 to 20 years before yall are overdue

    • @justyouraveragefurryhunter226
      @justyouraveragefurryhunter226 2 года назад +34

      @Santa Claus 🅥 ja rights mr claus Ich has checked yours profile Picture don’t make me call Z Gestapo on you!

    • @z-man1237
      @z-man1237 2 года назад +15

      Exactly

    • @kieranmilner4208
      @kieranmilner4208 2 года назад +74

      Old habits die hard

  • @papasult11
    @papasult11 2 года назад +4186

    British: **Attacks the French**
    French: "I thought we were allies?!"
    British: "Sorry, force of habit"

    • @ussr4906
      @ussr4906 2 года назад +160

      Tea and baguettes never mixed well

    • @gabrielagustinhomas
      @gabrielagustinhomas 2 года назад +99

      Old habits die hard, I suppose, LOL.

    • @ivandevera7665
      @ivandevera7665 2 года назад +19

      Lmao got me wheezing

    • @charnq4766
      @charnq4766 2 года назад +15

      I thought it was because the British didn't recognize the Free France government and resistance and thought they are all Vichy France Nazis puppet.

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 2 года назад +42

      Well, the british always had an interesting conception of allience.

  • @blackman5867
    @blackman5867 2 года назад +868

    Is nobody gonna talk about how well these ships were drawn ? Gotta love Simple History's works

    • @blackman5867
      @blackman5867 2 года назад +12

      @@tigaputradeta4351 umm... ok ?

    • @reddragon6490
      @reddragon6490 2 года назад +14

      @@tigaputradeta4351 Bot

    • @lispylarry7955
      @lispylarry7955 2 года назад +2

      Please please stop simping he is not gonna respond to your comment. This is high level of soyness

    • @nail0675
      @nail0675 2 года назад +16

      @@lispylarry7955 Please please stop being a coward and let anyone post feedback about their video. This is high level of coward.

    • @mrswishadank2329
      @mrswishadank2329 2 года назад +9

      @@lispylarry7955 wait what?

  • @benoit6400
    @benoit6400 2 года назад +1016

    My grandpa was among the french sailors of Mers El Kebir. He told me the British tried many times to prevent this attack by trying to convince the french admiral to join them to continue the fight against the nazis. He refused, and its fleet could have fallen into the axis powers hands. So the British destroyed it. My grandpa was arrested by British mps while on land just before the attack. He understood their decision and then served on the British side and continued the fight against the axis in North Africa. He was part of the first French SAS

    • @rmd116nwthwt2
      @rmd116nwthwt2 2 года назад +86

      He fought for Paris to be minority French sadly

    • @MCohen28
      @MCohen28 2 года назад +40

      That’s epic bro

    • @rmd116nwthwt2
      @rmd116nwthwt2 2 года назад +37

      @@MCohen28 Shalom fellow White person

    • @HDMaco13
      @HDMaco13 2 года назад +21

      @@MCohen28 Ok Cohen

    • @sammysterling
      @sammysterling 2 года назад +57

      Exactly this admiral let his men be killed for his ego and pride

  • @darkqwartzsytal834
    @darkqwartzsytal834 2 года назад +2088

    The US: Are you two friends?
    France: Yes
    The UK: No

    • @generalgrenade6463
      @generalgrenade6463 2 года назад +78

      We are friends until he gives up

    • @canadavatar
      @canadavatar 2 года назад +8

      Tom Schofield from the movie 1917 would disagree with this rivality, although he fought WWI, and he spent some time with a french lady and fed her baby.

    • @nitsu2947
      @nitsu2947 2 года назад +47

      the US: well, you two sort it out yourself, im gonna have a Cola and a burger in Hawaii. Aircraft ?? Oh they're just friendly bombers returning.

    • @jeanrodriguez2078
      @jeanrodriguez2078 2 года назад +9

      @@nitsu2947 what? It should be more like this," while you guys figure it out, I will relax in Hawaii and watch some planes with red dots on them."

    • @antoineppp4377
      @antoineppp4377 2 года назад +6

      @@generalgrenade6463 easy to say when ur on an island while we are literally next to germany

  • @ReconPro
    @ReconPro 2 года назад +3884

    The thumbnail is 100% historical accurate!
    🇬🇧 🇫🇷

    • @jordandino417
      @jordandino417 2 года назад +77

      England/Britain and France have always been enemies even if they’re allies of a war against a common enemy, they still fight each other occasionally.

    • @rubenherreramomazos2075
      @rubenherreramomazos2075 2 года назад +25

      Fake, british used Sten MK 2

    • @chairsilver2
      @chairsilver2 2 года назад +4

      Yes

    • @nickguitarhd8441
      @nickguitarhd8441 2 года назад +22

      @@rubenherreramomazos2075 nah thats a Lanchester, a copy of a german mp 28 used by the royal navy before they produced the stens

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 2 года назад +5

      @@jordandino417 But brits always get clapped against France in 1vs1 as shown they lost that ww2 betrayal after getting destroyed at the Battle of Dakar

  • @darthvader5558
    @darthvader5558 2 года назад +34

    USA : are you both friends?
    UK and France : yes but actually no

  • @FredericGaillot
    @FredericGaillot 2 года назад +15

    My grand father was a sailor in Mers El Kebir, and as a native of North Africa he was asked to unload ammunition and remove the fire mechanism from the boat he was serving as part of the armistice agreement signed in June. When English fleet showed up he was not aboard his boat as the natives from North Africa were asked to stay in the harbor. I remember him explaining me that he saw the first salvo hitting oil reservoirs that leaked into the water, but the second salvo hitting shortly after hit directly the Bretagne which capsized in matter of few minutes. The sailors could not leave the boat and found themselves in the water, where oil started to burn. Many sailors had only one choice; drawning or being burnt alive. 1295 sailors were killed, mostly from the "Bretagne" with nearly 1,000 dead for that boat alone.
    My grand father told me the story only once, he never liked to talk about war time and I understand now why. I think it is important that I'm sharing what I remember from that exchange with him that occurred almost 40 years ago. I visited the cemetery about 10 years ago.

  • @vasilisgm8966
    @vasilisgm8966 2 года назад +2524

    The British really did just pull a *"Did you question my authority?"* move.

  • @ChaoticEmperor01
    @ChaoticEmperor01 2 года назад +2065

    “Why did the british attack the French”
    Because that’s been Britain/England’s main foreign policy for the last thousand year

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 2 года назад +34

      Yep and they kept losing for a thousand years lmao

    • @ChaoticEmperor01
      @ChaoticEmperor01 2 года назад +79

      @@ommsterlitz1805 depends on the century

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 2 года назад +30

      @@ChaoticEmperor01 Can't even think of one battle brits won against French alone without allies

    • @ChaoticEmperor01
      @ChaoticEmperor01 2 года назад +68

      @@ommsterlitz1805 agincourt

    • @geo_brooknor2785
      @geo_brooknor2785 2 года назад +80

      @@ommsterlitz1805 the majority of naval engagements particularly for the last 300 years or so

  • @notdancooper923
    @notdancooper923 2 года назад +48

    The British actually attacked the French a couple times in WW2, like the battle for Madagascar, where the British fought Vichy French forces all the way up the island. This lasted for a decent couple weeks in 1942

    • @CromlixQuartz
      @CromlixQuartz 2 года назад +20

      Free France and Vichy France were completely different governments on different sides of the war. They even fought each other across North and West Africa. Its important not to confuse that.

    • @notdancooper923
      @notdancooper923 2 года назад +9

      @@CromlixQuartz I mean yeah, it's not like the Brits would attack the Free French forces, that'd be like them shooting down the Polish pilots during the Blitz

    • @paulpaterson1661
      @paulpaterson1661 2 года назад +3

      Invading Madagascar was to prevent the possibility of the Japanese occupying the island to attack shipping for example.

    • @lancebermejo3319
      @lancebermejo3319 Год назад +6

      @@CromlixQuartz So basically, the French fought against the French...

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen Год назад +1

      @@paulpaterson1661 Madagascar is in affrica , , in front of Kenya on a map ( approximately ) .
      It was impossible for the japanese to invade such island

  • @enderisaacyourunlocalthigh459
    @enderisaacyourunlocalthigh459 2 года назад +21

    "Smug Hitler doesn't exist, he can't hurt you"
    Smug Hitler: 1:45

  • @ophthalmophobicnpc8002
    @ophthalmophobicnpc8002 2 года назад +1841

    French: We´re best buddies, we were just allied together in this war, youre gonna leave us alone now and not attack us, right?
    British: (loads cannon while sipping tea)
    French: Right?

    • @bloxracer3627
      @bloxracer3627 2 года назад +41

      @Santa Claus 🅥 you going on the naughty list Santa

    • @nitsu2947
      @nitsu2947 2 года назад +12

      British: sorry man. But you had to go
      French: noooooooo

    • @FROST_HUGGER
      @FROST_HUGGER 2 года назад +4

      @@bloxracer3627 *proceeds to unzips pants

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 2 года назад +6

      British: *signals swordfish crews to ready their planes* of course....of course we're gonna keep our word chap

    • @FlakeTillman
      @FlakeTillman 2 года назад +4

      The British gave them a chance and explicitly told them what would happen if they didn’t follow their instructions, but the French Admiralty chose to give their ships to Hitler instead.

  • @fbi.4372
    @fbi.4372 2 года назад +848

    French soldiers when they get notified that friendly fire is on
    Objective: *SURVIVE*

  • @mehmetdemir4858
    @mehmetdemir4858 2 года назад +36

    Imagine if waterloo and agincourt were fought with baguettes and cups of tea?

    • @adventussaxonum448
      @adventussaxonum448 2 года назад +1

      I'd rather face a baguette than a hot cup of tea. Advantage of range as well.

    • @MichelleW870
      @MichelleW870 2 года назад +1

      @@adventussaxonum448
      you can throw the cup of tea at people using the cup to burn them, and if you run out you throw the cup smashing it on their face.

  • @doughboymilitaria
    @doughboymilitaria 2 года назад +22

    Lol, that thumbnail is a masterpiece.
    That definitely deserves to be in a museum…

  • @DieNibelungenliad
    @DieNibelungenliad 2 года назад +2166

    As a Canadian, I dip my baguette in my tea

    • @MustacheCashStash125
      @MustacheCashStash125 2 года назад +195

      When your half Anglo-Canadian half French-Canadian.

    • @generalgrenade6463
      @generalgrenade6463 2 года назад +91

      MI5 speaking we're gonna need your address don't worry about the SWAT teams

    • @DeNihility
      @DeNihility 2 года назад +138

      Sir, that's a warcrime.

    • @alnu8355
      @alnu8355 2 года назад +28

      I thought you guys had Poutine instead.

    • @zyanego3170
      @zyanego3170 2 года назад +24

      Based.

  • @nicholasfitzsimmons7311
    @nicholasfitzsimmons7311 2 года назад +821

    Old rivalry never seems to end.

    • @RackHasAttacked
      @RackHasAttacked 2 года назад +10

      Darling

    • @phoenixrose1192
      @phoenixrose1192 2 года назад +6

      @@RackHasAttacked Baaaah

    • @CarefreeMan
      @CarefreeMan 2 года назад +7

      *Well, bugger me with a fish fork!*

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 2 года назад

      ...until the Infinity Gauntlet comes into play by one pissed off person that is tired of all of their fucking bullshit, then said bullshit ends very quickly.

    • @dantheguitarist5823
      @dantheguitarist5823 2 года назад +1

      Well I have a cunning plan!

  • @davidbofinger
    @davidbofinger Год назад +5

    Not mentioned here is that the French Admiral in command at Mers-El-Kebir failed to properly report the British terms to his superiors in Vichy, instead leaving out the compromise options of e.g. being interned by the Americans.

  • @TheCsel
    @TheCsel 2 года назад +22

    Not mentioned, Gensoul after refusing to meet with the English captain, also failed to mention to his superiors that the British gave them the option to sail to the Americas. And basically just told them the British said to surrender or be sunk. Sailing to the Americas would have fulfilled their treaty with the Germans, satisfied the British, and kept their ships and honor. Gensoul and the French Government were also seen as unreliable at this point as well, they had changed their stances several times and British intelligence knew they weren't be completely truthful. Hitler of course not be trusted with any agreement to let the French keep the ships. And finally not mentioned, the French ships responded to the arrival of the British fleet by preparing to leave harbor. I think the British definitely escalated the issue needlessly and should have been more patient, but at that point the French tied their hands. If you tell them an ultimatum and the French refuse the demands and then also refuse to negotiate and then prepare to get the armed warships into position, you pretty much are forced to shoot them to not endanger your own crew.

    • @mr.beatnskeet6876
      @mr.beatnskeet6876 2 года назад +1

      lol France sailing its ships outside the Axis' geographical purview would've been them giving Germany the same "trust us mate" people think the UK would've been foolish to rely on. Germany allowed Vichy France to exist with its navy as it provided the benefits of sparing its own military resources invading further as well as having the French Navy serve either as a stand-in whose neutrality would be respected or if not, a force capable of repelling an Allied attack. Once the former was outright gone and the latter was at best questionable, Germany had pretty much zero reason not to invade and take responsibility for France's southern border itself, which was precisely what Gensoul was trying to avoid.
      It's one thing to think that all scenarios weighed, the British made the correct choice. But the whole "Stubborn French guys big dumb" is just gaslighting history.

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen Год назад

      Gensoul tryed to win time for escape the trap .
      What it performed relatively well , savin the Strasbourg and several destroyers .

  • @renzjosephremo4143
    @renzjosephremo4143 2 года назад +478

    i like how the french in the thumbnail uses baguette as a literal sword

  • @darth_elsa6681
    @darth_elsa6681 2 года назад +1209

    Fun Fact....when the Germans eventually took the rest of France...the French Navy scuttled their ships. However, they aslo sent a message to Churchill saying we did what we promised you we'd do.

    • @whispofwords2590
      @whispofwords2590 2 года назад +280

      Yes, but did you expect the british to just take their word with so much at risk? Also there was no guarantee the french ships wouldn't be boarded and the crews overpowered before they could scuttle their ships. This was a war after all. Just stating your intentions doesn't suddenly mean you'll be able to see them through

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 2 года назад +167

      @@whispofwords2590 risk didn't matter, UK has no friends, only temporary allies, remember? Destroying french fleet meant less competitors even after the war.

    • @DravgonPL
      @DravgonPL 2 года назад +88

      @@TheArklyte yeah bro ww2 just proved that britain shouldn't have any friends.

    • @generalgrenade6463
      @generalgrenade6463 2 года назад +88

      @@DravgonPL so risking all of Europe just just Cause there friends the Royal Navy was at the breaking point they had to fight Italy Germany and Japan Italy had a really good Navy Germany had the u-boats Japan had air Supremacy and the UK was at the breaking point so risking Germany getting one of the most powerful Navy in the world could destroy the Royal Navy

    • @generalgrenade6463
      @generalgrenade6463 2 года назад +92

      @@TheArklyte so you expect the UK just to ignore one of the most powerful navy's in the world get into Germany hands if that happened it's the end of the UK

  • @luigidisanpietro3720
    @luigidisanpietro3720 2 года назад +18

    *When the British tried to introduce "Beans on Toast" to the French be like:*

  • @noahcarver6072
    @noahcarver6072 2 года назад +6

    Incredible. Why isn't this event more talked about. Despite all the history lessons and popular culture on WWII, I've never heard this story before.

  • @ifarded4986
    @ifarded4986 2 года назад +214

    I had heard of this. I knew the ships were scuttled but I had no clue there was loss of life. Great video I always learn something new with yall keep it up!

    • @tonyz7216
      @tonyz7216 Год назад +1

      They were not scuttled they were shelled by the British. Maybe you were thinking about when the French navy scuttled in Toulon in November 1942. Mers el Kebir attack was in July 1940.

  • @TheKnowledgeMan101
    @TheKnowledgeMan101 2 года назад +544

    Here are some topics to talk about:
    The Battle of Leyte Gulf
    General Douglas MacArthur
    The Battle of Kursk
    The Battle of Berlin
    The Philippine-American War
    Winston Churchill
    The Nuremberg Trials

    • @m1994a3jagnew
      @m1994a3jagnew 2 года назад +12

      Korea..
      Storming Inchon.
      Capturing Pyongyang.
      The Chosin Reservoir.

    • @DravgonPL
      @DravgonPL 2 года назад +2

      The yalta treaty

    • @diligentone-six2688
      @diligentone-six2688 2 года назад +10

      The Gulf War
      Operation Just Cause
      Operation Urgent Fury
      Operation Uphold Democracy

    • @blitzzkrieg1400
      @blitzzkrieg1400 2 года назад +16

      The battle of Manila and the Palawan massacre

    • @joeyphaahla
      @joeyphaahla 2 года назад +4

      The Kokoda Campaign

  • @draygosiv
    @draygosiv 2 года назад +161

    Reading the comments, a few notes about the event which at least I did not catch in the video that some seem to be missing. Admiral Gensole only informed the government of internment or battle, not that they could sail to the french west indies. In addition part of Gensole's orders from Darlan were that the fleet to be sailed to the US in the event of a foreign power try to take the ships, which was one of the options the british gave. Also, Holland made multiple attempts to reach Gensole to try and stave off the attack and indeed managed to convince the British admiralty to delay by 3 hours to give more time. During this time, Admiral Le Luc issued instructions in Admiral Darlan's name, for all french ships and aircraft on that side of the Mediterranean to prepare for battle and head toward Oran, these instructions were intercepted by the british which as a result Sommerville extended the deadline until 1730(the original being 1330) but much longer and french reinforcements would have had time to arrive, following reception on the french flagship of this message around 1715, Holland left the french flagship, roughly 5 minutes before the british opened fire, not even enough time to clear the harbour. Even after launching their bombardment, upon request from shore requesting the british to cease fire, Sommverville did, giving the french another opportunity at the ultimatum, instead the french used the lull to break out of the harbour.
    As for those that note that the french kept their word, keep in mind that the french government broke their promise to the british not a month before concerning relations with germany
    Edit: turned the time to 24 hour so it wouldnt try and make it a timestamps

    • @letoubib21
      @letoubib21 2 года назад +3

      *_"... that they could sail to the french west indies ..."_*
      Did the French ships have enough fuel fpr that?

    • @__-tp4tm
      @__-tp4tm 2 года назад +9

      Sooo, what are the French to do after getting invaded like that, openly resist the Nazis and getting wiped some more?
      Well, I think that if the brits never started these battles, nothing much would've changed.

    • @draygosiv
      @draygosiv 2 года назад +5

      @@letoubib21 To be honest, I do not know. However you would need roughly in the same amount of fuel, a bit more though, as to get to the united states since it is in the caribbean, and since that was an option in the orders available to the french fleet if a foreign country tried to take the ships I would think it likely. Also if they had agreed to it I would think there would have been time to fuel the ships.

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen 2 года назад +1

      *Gensoul not gensole
      He believed he didn't have the fuel for and that's pretty correct

    • @draygosiv
      @draygosiv 2 года назад

      @@druisteen yeah I'm not the best with remembering spelling

  • @09stoneheart
    @09stoneheart 2 года назад +122

    For Churchill the French fleet was as much as political threat as a military one. A key part of his poltical strategy to keep Britain in the war was the assurance to the British public that Britain had complete naval supremacy and Germany could never challenge them in order conduct an invasion of Britain itself. Even if there was a slim chance the French fleet could fall under the German control it could have fueled opposition to the war in Britian and seen his opponents push Churchill to seek peace like they had initially tried in early June 1940.

  • @xAznNationsx
    @xAznNationsx 2 года назад +198

    *British attack French*
    French: but why
    British: sorry force of habit

  • @merlinlenchanteur2938
    @merlinlenchanteur2938 2 года назад +657

    My great grand father served on the Bretagne during the battle of Mers el-Kebir and thanksfully he survived !
    He later told my grand father that if he encountered a British soldier on the beach were he took refuge, after jumping of the boat, he would have "gutted" him right here and now

    • @T-1001
      @T-1001 2 года назад +160

      Maybe if the French leaders had taken a better stance none of the fighting would have happened. Literally every option except battle left the fleet in French hands in the long run.

    • @Xelzeno
      @Xelzeno 2 года назад +129

      ​@@T-1001 Well except for as this video itself even covers, the French scuttled their navy as they had earlier promised when it was ACTUALLY about to fall into German hands. This attack did nothing but worsen relations between the French and British.

    • @pujo6532
      @pujo6532 2 года назад +62

      @@T-1001 Joining the British means seeing the armistice conditions drastically harden, knowing that the family who have remained in France may find themselves in danger. Easy to judge 80 years later, even Churchill and Cunningham confessed that it was one of the toughest decisions of their careers for low results.

    • @DravgonPL
      @DravgonPL 2 года назад +13

      @@Xelzeno yeah bro just like you said british leaders only made French honor in this agreement seems worthless.

    • @donnyboon2896
      @donnyboon2896 2 года назад +5

      Justifiably so.

  • @dovetonsturdee7033
    @dovetonsturdee7033 2 года назад +99

    A small correction, from the outset. The French were no longer Britain's allies on 3 July, 1940. France had ceased to be Britain's ally after the Reynaud administration collapsed.

    • @olinxy6886
      @olinxy6886 2 года назад +2

      But they were not at war

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 2 года назад +21

      @@olinxy6886 No, but the British were being pragmatic. They knew the terms of the French armistice, and were willing to do whatever was necessary to prevent the French fleet being used to support an invasion attempt.
      The fact is that the British at the time were desperate, and were willing to act in a desperate manner. Prior to the French surrender, the British had agreed to release the Reynaud government from its obligations as an ally, so that it might seek a separate armistice with Germany. This concession was granted with the provision that the French fleet would be placed under effective British control and not surrendered to the enemy. The British held that the Pétain government’s acceptance of Germany’s terms amounted to an act of treachery.

    • @olinxy6886
      @olinxy6886 2 года назад +7

      @@dovetonsturdee7033 But the French Navy was never surrendered to the German... So nothing justify the surprise attack of the British, killing hundred of unprepared French sailor...

    • @MQzzz.3140
      @MQzzz.3140 2 года назад +16

      @@olinxy6886 This was in hindsight. The French scuttled their ships as promised, but this action occurred long after the video's contents.
      The British action can be condemned as an "unprovoked" attack on a "neutral" state, but Churchill and other hawks were like unwilling to gamble on, in today's words, a "just trust me, bro" verbal promise.
      Plus, the video also left out the fact that very few French colonies or personnel sided with De Gaulle's Free France resistance movement at the time. This could have influenced the British hawks that the majority of the French were neutral at best and were a potential hostile state at worst.

    • @joshuaandre8911
      @joshuaandre8911 2 года назад +1

      @@olinxy6886 Waiting for British justification comments

  • @joshuafarmer3467
    @joshuafarmer3467 2 года назад +3

    That was interesting. I have never even heard of this battle from WWII though I have studied it all of m y like. Subscribed and thanks!

  • @triplefish4579
    @triplefish4579 2 года назад +57

    the British and French have to fight each other atleast once a century it would not be history without it. Also Greece has to fight Turkey once a century too

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 2 года назад +1

      The clock is ticking for both of these things to happen.

  • @alfrancisbuada2591
    @alfrancisbuada2591 2 года назад +51

    If we were taught anything in history is that old wounds are never sealed

  • @sauceyeti4381
    @sauceyeti4381 2 года назад +75

    "We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be *detested in France."*
    - Duke of Wellington

  • @16Haverson
    @16Haverson 2 года назад +11

    It's sad that allies only a short time ago fought needlessly. May the french sailors be remembered for their sacrifices and also keeping their promise to scuttle their ships in the end even after what happened.

  • @AliHassan-sh6lt
    @AliHassan-sh6lt 2 года назад +29

    The whole world: why are u fighting ?
    Uk and France: ah sorry force of habit

  • @pov1698
    @pov1698 2 года назад +37

    Simple, they were pissed off of seeing blue for 600 years...

    • @MustacheCashStash125
      @MustacheCashStash125 2 года назад +4

      Yo listen up here’s the story about a little guy that lives in a blue world…

  • @hanssachs9038
    @hanssachs9038 2 года назад +6

    Gensoul did not communicate all 5 options to the Vichy regime. He misled the French Admiralty to believe that there were only options 4 and 5. The tragedy was partly his responsibility.
    Harry Hopkins noted that this attack convinced Roosevelt that the British meant to "stay in the fight, alone and if necessary for years".

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen Год назад

      Are you citing a British source ????
      Do you think it's neutral .... after all they commited the war crime and i don't expect them to assume

  • @GrandAdmiralGamez
    @GrandAdmiralGamez 2 года назад +34

    This is something that we never learn in history classes. I love it. Maybe we'll learn more history, maybe about certain over-reported casualties about this time?

    • @leongremista95
      @leongremista95 2 года назад +3

      I really, really hope you're not refering to the holocaust

    • @luigimrlgaming9484
      @luigimrlgaming9484 Год назад

      The reason why we didn’t learn of it is because it’s not a major event and didnt set much in motion

  • @FireheartSamurai
    @FireheartSamurai 2 года назад +257

    I read that title thinking the French didn’t have the balls to fight back against the British. But the whole video gave a good enough answer for me.

    • @misterf2785
      @misterf2785 2 года назад +29

      Why would they fight back ? That is a very retarted comment

    • @anakinskywalkercrappyprodu2205
      @anakinskywalkercrappyprodu2205 2 года назад +9

      @Santa Claus 🅥 "cough 7 years war"

    • @Slyarno2795
      @Slyarno2795 2 года назад +3

      Reminds me of Gordon Ramsay against a French chef.

    • @ommsterlitz1805
      @ommsterlitz1805 2 года назад +6

      Well of course they fight back the brits got clapped at the battle of Dakar

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 2 года назад +51

      It's unfortunate that popular media had spread the joke about the French always surrendering. Yet, Dunkirk might not have beem evacuated without the bravery of the French rear guard.

  • @darthplagueis3488
    @darthplagueis3488 2 года назад +4

    1:45 Hitler: I officially sign your participation contract for NNN

  • @roboticpotato3974
    @roboticpotato3974 2 года назад +3

    Good job! You always make entertaining videos and make my day! I love history so you make it better!

  • @captainzorikh
    @captainzorikh 2 года назад +41

    This video shows a lot of the "how" but very little of the "why." Other sources make note of how the personalities of the French and Brithis admirals and the lack of communication with London at Mer El Kebir led to the inevitability of the destruction. There is a lot of material about how Churchill was trying to prove to Roosevelt that the British were still willing to keep up the fight.
    It would also have been nice for this video to show how this attach changed the relationship between Britain and Vichy France. Until that point, the two nations still kept diplomatic relations open. Afterwards, France cut off such relations, considering Britain to be hostile. France even sent a bombing mission to Gibraltar in response.
    Although Vichy France did scuttle its fleet at Tulon, at the same time its troops resisted the British and American landings in North Africa. Vichy troops also fought to maintain control in the Middle East and Madagascar agains Free French and British troops.
    It is interesting to wonder how different history might have been if a way had been found to not attack the French fleet.

    • @MahsaKaerra
      @MahsaKaerra Год назад

      I've read somewhere that part of why the British were so quick to resort to violence was an attempt to send a message to the United States. After the French-British defeat at Dunkirk the President, already under pressure from Congress to give up on the Lend-Lease plan, needed to be convinced that the UK was still able and willing to continue the war.

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen Год назад

      Don't try to negociate exhibing your guns .

  • @jimlaker6552
    @jimlaker6552 2 года назад +71

    Also the Syrian War, where there was the additional subplot of Free French Foreign Legionnaires fighting against Vichy Legionnaires. During Torch, the plan was for all fighting against the French to be done by Americans, since the Vichy garrisons might reach an accommodation with Americans, but absolutely would not with the British.

  • @scruppell
    @scruppell 2 года назад +23

    French love their baguette, It can be used as a weapon or as a food.
    Brit's love Tea!! Once steaming hot it could be lethal!

  • @Kabutoes
    @Kabutoes 2 года назад +24

    Because of this incident, the Vichy govt used it as propaganda against the British and allies. And for some reason, when Operation Torch commenced, the British and Americans really expected the French to join them right away...and what happened was more fighting. turned out it wasn't so easy to convince the French after such an incident

    • @spork3526
      @spork3526 2 года назад +21

      Immagine abandoning your ally in Dunkirk, attacking their navy and expect them to join you

    • @the.real.cia.langley
      @the.real.cia.langley 2 года назад

      @@spork3526 That's completely right.

    • @DeadManSinging1
      @DeadManSinging1 2 года назад +2

      @@spork3526 If the British didn't "abandon" them at Dunkirk, the whole of Europe would be speaking German right now.
      It wasn't how it was percieved. The French Forces willingly covered the British retreat.

    • @cpj93070
      @cpj93070 2 года назад

      @@spork3526 That French army should have been more prepared then, and actually invaded Germany though the Saarland in 1939 and not a pathetic 3 miles like they did.

    • @User-he6zd
      @User-he6zd 2 года назад +3

      @@spork3526 Fully agree. The French should have kept working with the German government at the time against the backstabbing Brits. The Vichy was completely neutral, and no enemy

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 2 года назад

    Keep up the great stuff

  • @MCohen28
    @MCohen28 2 года назад +267

    Respect to the French for honouring their word

    • @kortiv7643
      @kortiv7643 2 года назад +1

      Force of habits.

    • @richirich999
      @richirich999 2 года назад +12

      Meh, French admiral got his men killed only to continue fighting the same enemy for the rest of the war.

    • @kieranlee9610
      @kieranlee9610 2 года назад

      well they bitched out from Germany Britain told them not to they did and they got absolutely destroyed

    • @richirich999
      @richirich999 2 года назад +1

      @@kieranlee9610 France in general didn’t really get a W in WW2. Even tho the Allie’s won they still in my eyes hood a fat L.

    • @captainloaf4767
      @captainloaf4767 2 года назад +4

      when instead if they intended to scuttle the fleet why not continue the fight to help relive there countrymen you can see how this looked to the British. this all happened because of the French admirals arrogance.

  • @timg2088
    @timg2088 2 года назад +44

    Wow! As much as I've studied WWII history, I've never heard such details about this conflict.
    Excellent video as always! 👍

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen Год назад +1

      For how much time you studied ??? It's a major event folowing the disaster of Dunkirk and the birth of Vichy and Free France .

  • @ElJefeDeTexas
    @ElJefeDeTexas 2 года назад +5

    British: *gives 5 options*
    French: 🥖
    British: so you have chosen death & ☕

  • @nirpsa824
    @nirpsa824 2 года назад +1

    the background drawing of Toulon is very accurate ! nice

  • @roflmywaffles1313
    @roflmywaffles1313 2 года назад +34

    He couldn't let his ancestors down after all

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen 2 года назад

      your a troll

    • @roflmywaffles1313
      @roflmywaffles1313 2 года назад +1

      @@druisteen before you reply make sure your sentence contains proper grammar.

  • @jokodihaynes419
    @jokodihaynes419 2 года назад +131

    Charles de Gaulle had trouble trying to get French soldiers to fight for him because of this attack

    • @DravgonPL
      @DravgonPL 2 года назад +7

      No wonder

    • @lamarmottequimetlechocolat848
      @lamarmottequimetlechocolat848 2 года назад +43

      All that this attack did was helping Germany and Vichy to recruit soldiers to fight for them

    • @generalgrenade6463
      @generalgrenade6463 2 года назад +16

      @@lamarmottequimetlechocolat848 and stop one of biggest navy’s in the world attack the uk we all know now the french sunk them but how was the uk going to know

    • @cpp3221
      @cpp3221 2 года назад +14

      @@generalgrenade6463 it's true, but the hate Britain got in return, is, sadly understandable.
      Imagine, you're a French citizen, your country just had it most traumatizing and decisive defeat of it long history, and then your allies kill your own countrymen without any decleration of war ? Personnally, not knowing really who was De Gaulle, I just would have think that the man was a British puppet greedy for power to the point of allowing the murder of it's fellows countrymens. Because I wouldn't have any history book to give me the clues about what was going on.
      And many in the French population surely came accross that situation.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 2 года назад +6

      @@cpp3221 Nobody would ever think that De Gaulle was a British Puppet, even without the benefit of historical hindsight. The guy was practically racist against the British in his general attitude towards them, at best he thought they were useful in the short term and actually wanted a vision of Europe that had Britain removed from any position of strength (didn't want them to be a part of the EU)

  • @dionesvaldez088
    @dionesvaldez088 Год назад +2

    Ships Of The Marine Nationale
    1:55
    The French Fleet: Provance, Bretagne, Strasbourg, & Dunkerque
    3:50-3:55
    The Wehrmacht & Kriegsmarine Commandeering The Whole Marine Nationale Fleet & Combining It With The Kriegsmarine Fleet To Be Used Against The French & British
    3:57
    Operation: Catapult - The Seizure / Neutralization Of French Fleet To Prevent Its Downfall To German Or Italian Hands
    4:25
    Mers-El-Kébir Port
    7:44
    HMS Resolution & Valiant Open Fire At French Ship
    8:09-8:10
    Mogadour Sunk
    8:50-8:52-8:57
    French Retaliation Fire
    9:08
    Provance Sunk
    9:32

  • @joeyHicks1000
    @joeyHicks1000 2 года назад +20

    I read somewhere that it was also supposed to send a message, both to Germany/the Axis powers and any Allied or Neutral countries that Britain would not hesitate to do what was seen as 'necessary' to win the war, regardless of how terrible it was. Also, the Admiral in charge of the British fleet (as well as many of the sailors) opposed the idea and wanted to keep negotiations open but was given direct orders to start the attack.

    • @TheCsel
      @TheCsel 2 года назад +1

      Yes, not mentioned was the French Navy had begun to get ready to leave harbor. It would have taken them quite awhile, but the British superiors were not willing to let the French possibly escape or get in a better position to fight back if they did choose violence.

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen Год назад

      @@TheCsel What do you expected ??
      They had strong goal for the french , keep the peace whive geramany ... surrendering to the British would lead to terrible retaliation .
      We are talking about the nazies ... the nazies in Paris ( 4 milions of civilians )

    • @TheCsel
      @TheCsel Год назад

      @@druisteen France had previously said they would continue to fight like the Polish navy and the Dutch navy. Then they were suddenly changing their mind based on what Hitler wanted. The French then gave their guarantee that they would not give their fleet to Hitler, but at that point they had doubts they could trust the remaining French government to follow their word, and they definitely could not trust Hitler. The British Ultimatum gave the French several choices take, some were within the scope of the treaty with Germany and likely would not get retaliation. Leave to the French Caribbean, leave to neutral USA, sink your own ships, continue the fight with the British, or get sunk by the British. The French admiral obstructed the negotiations and only reported half of the options to his government. He then chose to have the British sink his ships by trying to set sail.

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen Год назад

      @@TheCsel Well .....Nobody expected UK to stand more than few months .
      Exept chuchill made a deal whive USA , something France wasn't aware .

  • @seanskinner4012
    @seanskinner4012 2 года назад +4

    Man the animation quality is a major step up from when I first watch your videos s few years back

  • @Reposterkkkk
    @Reposterkkkk 2 года назад +27

    Video suggestion: the brazilian expeditionary forces. Most known as smoking snakes.

  • @RRKGAMEZ
    @RRKGAMEZ 2 года назад

    You guys make really good videos

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @raphaelroberge1786
    @raphaelroberge1786 2 года назад +60

    Wow. I'm surprised that after all that, they still scuttled the fleet. Talk about keeping your word no matter what.

    • @DravgonPL
      @DravgonPL 2 года назад +15

      Yeah this was a literral kinfe in the back

    • @b_de_silva
      @b_de_silva 2 года назад +10

      @@DravgonPL it was fair game, admiral darlan had said that he'd rather mutiny and fight alongside the British rather than joining france after the armistice, then he only had a general opposition to the armistice and right after that he joined the vichy government, he went from ally to enemy in a matter of weeks through his own actions, so no words that came out of his mouth should be trusted by the Brits

    • @bofoenss8393
      @bofoenss8393 2 года назад +3

      The scuttling of the fleet in Toulon was as much a result of Germany invading Vichy France and crushing the token armed forces Vichy France had. The Navy was the only real force and asset of any kind. They knew they could not sail to North Africa, they would be bombed by Germans and Italians on the way, and they could not fight. So they scuttled the fleet.
      It was as much to prevent assets from falling into enemy hands than to keep a promise. The Danish fleet under similar circumstances did the same in August 1943.

  • @Shippy68
    @Shippy68 2 года назад +3

    Wow you animation and overall visuals have come a long way!

  • @ryanwaters3318
    @ryanwaters3318 2 года назад

    So weird I saw an older video on another channel about this exact thing earlier today!

  • @dougbutcher4452
    @dougbutcher4452 2 года назад

    I did not know about this. Thank you.

  • @deluca1031
    @deluca1031 2 года назад +181

    Love how the British is using MP28 and Tea while the French using Baguette and pistol (i don't know the name)
    Also yeah,Mers El-Kebir is really an act of betrayal from the view of the French. While it seen as must happen thing to do from the view of the British.

    • @Kappa7837
      @Kappa7837 2 года назад

      I think its a Ruger

    • @Mestari1Gaming
      @Mestari1Gaming 2 года назад +33

      Ain't that the Lanchester smg?

    • @BadBomb555
      @BadBomb555 2 года назад +24

      Lanchester SMG is basically a copy of MP28 with additional bayonet lug.

    • @joeyphaahla
      @joeyphaahla 2 года назад +1

      @@Mestari1Gaming yeah

    • @cloaker1619
      @cloaker1619 2 года назад +1

      Lanchesters mate mot MP28 that would have been a german spy

  • @Dutch_T
    @Dutch_T 2 года назад +10

    Every time you post a new video the animation gets better and better, I love it.

  • @patrickbateman4335
    @patrickbateman4335 2 года назад

    I've been watching since 2018 and I'm amazed at your skills right now.

  • @ENZOMAN12
    @ENZOMAN12 2 года назад

    This is why i subscribed. I never knew this was a thing.

  • @abraham7414
    @abraham7414 2 года назад +3

    I love the thumbnail of the British guy spilling tea on the French guy and the French guy shielding himself with a baguette

  • @xXxKAMIKAZExXx
    @xXxKAMIKAZExXx 2 года назад +7

    That thumbnail is hilarious! I can just imagine a war where British soldiers armed only with tea fight the French army equipped with only baguettes.

  • @user-xq5og9lt8p
    @user-xq5og9lt8p 2 года назад +12

    -Your majesty, we have a perfect excuse to attack the French!!!
    -At least something good came out of this war!

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen 2 года назад +3

      You should know the british crown wasn't plaised at all by the attack .

  • @wrongtime9097
    @wrongtime9097 2 года назад +4

    this video encapsulates why I always hated reading history textbooks in school: the books never gave you any context & basically served as glorified history charts so nothing made any sense.
    I guarantee if I read this in a history book it would look something like "France signed an armistice with Germany; Britain later sank France's navy."

  • @CJ_1406
    @CJ_1406 2 года назад +52

    British: Tea is the best!!
    French: Non!! Baguette is better!!
    USA: Why am I allies with them again?

  • @Cactus_fucker
    @Cactus_fucker 2 года назад +19

    The french remembered waterloo, the brits made sure it stayed a memory

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen 2 года назад +7

      Yeah ....and they call french people " Arrogant " :)

    • @tm.8399
      @tm.8399 Год назад +1

      Waterloo is remember as the birth of German/France bileading of Europe and the death of England as a european leader. You may remember it as avictory, the french and german remembers that you were getting crushed and the real fight was between France and Prussia.

    • @archivesoffantasy5560
      @archivesoffantasy5560 Год назад

      @@tm.8399 so Napoleon lost solely to a 72 year old man who thought he was pregnant with an elephant ? Yikes, what a way for the emperor to go out.

    • @TheFearsomePredator
      @TheFearsomePredator 14 дней назад

      Still mad about 1066 and 100 year war, so much that you view these massive French victories as "brit victories". Nothing more arrogant and jealous than brit

    • @TheFearsomePredator
      @TheFearsomePredator 14 дней назад

      ​@@archivesoffantasy5560it was before he was emperor bruh...

  • @DavudkadrinkingPotato
    @DavudkadrinkingPotato 2 года назад

    I love your way to tell history😁

  • @thehistorybox1163
    @thehistorybox1163 2 года назад +1

    Great video

  • @Nipplator99999999999
    @Nipplator99999999999 2 года назад +184

    The honor of the French to scuttle their entire fleet, even after what happened, is the same honor civilians can't understand when several soldiers risk their lives to save a single soldier lost behind enemy lines.

    • @leroiarouf1142
      @leroiarouf1142 2 года назад +7

      Facts

    • @eldridgedavis
      @eldridgedavis 2 года назад

      This^

    • @richdobbs6595
      @richdobbs6595 2 года назад +13

      Meh. It was in the best interest of the French Navy to not allow their naval assets to aid their occupiers. By that point, it was clear that the Axis would end up losing. From the POV of military honor, it allowed them to claim that the British had mistreated them, when it is just as arguable that they should not have complied with an armistice negotiated by traitors. Petain was convicted of treason....

    • @cowboydoggo6168
      @cowboydoggo6168 2 года назад +8

      Yeah I still don’t understand it. Saving private Ryan was stupid.

    • @mrp7874
      @mrp7874 2 года назад +5

      @@cowboydoggo6168 you're right. 'I'm willing to risk 70 lives, 15 of which die, just so we can save one dude' is... stupid. 15 people dead because you wanted to play hero and save 1. Good work. I'm sure all 15 of the dead soldiers family will be eternally grateful for not having a father growing up because of a dumb suicide mission.

  • @charangill1848
    @charangill1848 2 года назад +19

    France: why did you attack me?
    Britain: yes

  • @phoenixmilburn8759
    @phoenixmilburn8759 2 года назад +5

    As someone who's Great Uncle Sylas served in the Canadian Millitary (Native American Euro Branch to use the term tortoise most famously along with lots from our native toung)of got escorted by the Royal Navy over seas and he was one of them and he had never ending story's of how even the Natives were welcomed to drink and Smoke and Sing and Joke with the rest of the British and white Canadians and fought with a fury along side them in the first and second world wars albe it at a cost of most of his sanity he had at tape line around all his places he slept in the house my mom amsaid because he couldn't be touched in hes sleep because he had PTSD from mainly the Trenches but he said the Beach was worse than anything you could imagine and the pictures show it im just glad he only got a bash and a graze here and there his medical records pretty much say but I'm just happy he lived out the rest of his days with my family I never met him hes passed away when my mom was like my age but iv heard all the storys and seen all the records to prove it and I love him to death for it

  • @DivingHawker
    @DivingHawker 2 года назад +6

    You could also talk about how the French Airforce was attacked by the British and the Americans in North Africa and in the Middle East after the Armistice.

  • @SHAHIDKC
    @SHAHIDKC 2 года назад +53

    I love how kaiser whilleim's stupidity nade both of the worst enemies friends.

    • @puma2334
      @puma2334 2 года назад

      Weren’t the British and French allies during the Crimean War?

    • @letoubib21
      @letoubib21 2 года назад

      @@puma2334 Do you really think he/she(it knows the Crimean War?

    • @puma2334
      @puma2334 2 года назад

      @@letoubib21 Probably

    • @letoubib21
      @letoubib21 2 года назад +1

      ​@@puma2334 Btw., what was that? remembering the words _raglan,_ and _cardigan_ it must have been something about fashion *;-)*

    • @puma2334
      @puma2334 2 года назад +2

      @@letoubib21 The charge of the light brigade

  • @typicalperson6389
    @typicalperson6389 2 года назад +12

    France: BRITAIN! MY NAVY, WHAT DID YOU DO?! I THOUGHT I LEFT THE CONFLICT
    Britain: shut up german puppet i still havent forgotten the 100 years war

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen 2 года назад

      Their worst defeat ! They loved so much of our wine from Bordeaux

    • @TheFearsomePredator
      @TheFearsomePredator 14 дней назад

      ​@@druisteen🤣🤣🤣👌

  • @SakorskySP
    @SakorskySP 2 года назад

    I swear simple history has under a million subs when I first subbed, i looked away now they had 3 million, nice job

  • @pointly
    @pointly 2 года назад +26

    British: "Let's attack the French. For old time's sake."

    • @jadeorbigoso5212
      @jadeorbigoso5212 2 года назад

      It's their Fault though Option 1-3 is a good option for them

  • @americaalt
    @americaalt 2 года назад +6

    So, basically French pearl harbor but the enemy fleet actually shows up, some of your ships escape.

  • @somerandomdude6394
    @somerandomdude6394 2 года назад +54

    Could you do a video on Operation Gatling (70's) it was a Rhodesian anti-terrorist operation which ended in Rhodesian victory with very very few casualties compared to the terrorists estimated 1000-1500 casualties.
    Edit: you might have your own opinions about Rhodesia and Ian Smith but please don't start a firestorm in the comments

    • @kapish094
      @kapish094 2 года назад +5

      They weren’t terrorists in this situation, they were rebels, rebelling against the white minority government. While the victory is still a battle to be looked at, we cannot deny they weren’t terriosts

    • @britannicgeneral7460
      @britannicgeneral7460 2 года назад +3

      @@kapish094 Yes they where. They slaughtered children deliberately with melee weapons.

    • @marklems5894
      @marklems5894 2 года назад

      @@britannicgeneral7460 I think that's the Rwanda Genocide

    • @britannicgeneral7460
      @britannicgeneral7460 2 года назад +1

      @@marklems5894 No honestly I've seen pictures taken from the time in a documentary.

    • @somerandomdude6394
      @somerandomdude6394 2 года назад +2

      @@britannicgeneral7460 you're right

  • @octopussmasher2694
    @octopussmasher2694 2 года назад +2

    An incredible episode in history

  • @badgamemaster
    @badgamemaster 2 года назад +20

    French: the UK attacked and destroyed our ships
    Denmark: well they didn't bomb one of your cities when doing so....

    • @druisteen
      @druisteen 2 года назад +1

      Brest bombin , the city was erazed to 80's in 1945

  • @ramathememe5674
    @ramathememe5674 2 года назад +5

    12 years old Margaret thatcher was probably like
    *“Th-ink it “*

  • @ianmetcalfe7389
    @ianmetcalfe7389 Год назад +4

    Nasty bit of business having to open fire on your allies but when has war ever brought the best out of people.

  • @Wet_Sandwich
    @Wet_Sandwich 2 года назад +2

    "Mate, the 1500's Nostalgia hits me too much, lets go again."
    "Oui."

    • @pongangelo2048
      @pongangelo2048 2 года назад

      Nah, the French didn't agree. They were forced.

  • @kairi7912
    @kairi7912 Год назад

    I love your videos ! You are really cool!❤

  • @Allsoproductions
    @Allsoproductions 2 года назад +5

    Please do a video on the St. Nazaire raid!

  • @stevenstuff8823
    @stevenstuff8823 2 года назад +11

    reminds me of a game where you can stab people with begueets

  • @asianlifter
    @asianlifter 2 года назад +1

    1:42 that smirk lol

  • @canadavatar
    @canadavatar 2 года назад +4

    Tom Schofield from the movie 1917 would disagree with this rivality, although he fought WWI, and he spent some time with a french lady and fed her baby.

  • @lightfootpathfinder8218
    @lightfootpathfinder8218 2 года назад +26

    France October 1939: "don't worry Britain we promise we will stay loyal to the allied cause and not make a separate peace with Germany"
    France July 1940: signs an armistice with Germany and cooperates with the axis powers...." But don't worry Britain we will not let our fleet fall into German hands"
    Britain: "after your last promise to us I think we will see to it ourselves that it doesn't"

    • @redknight344
      @redknight344 2 года назад +3

      well... they kept their promise

    • @lightfootpathfinder8218
      @lightfootpathfinder8218 2 года назад +6

      @@redknight344yes in November 1942 when it was likely the allies would win the war ... Shame they didn't have the balls to keep fighting the Nazis in 1940 like Britain did ( the free French thought stayed loyal to the allies and fought bravely for which I respect them)

    • @boss180888
      @boss180888 2 года назад +4

      @@lightfootpathfinder8218 britain promised to help during the battle for france but instead ran away in the begining of the fight as the french army dupped by their british allies covered their retreat, they then refused to re-send the BEF to france as the country was attacked. so honestly i don't see your point that france somehow failed to keep it's word! if anything it was britain who failed to keep their promises

    • @lightfootpathfinder8218
      @lightfootpathfinder8218 2 года назад +2

      @@boss180888 the British expeditionary force held the German forces in Belgium it was the French divisions further south at sedan that broke and let the German panzer divisions storm into the British rear area forcing the BEF to withdraw to the channel ports or be encircled and destroyed! The French have only got there own troops and commanders to blame for what happened. Also Britain did form a second BEF after Dunkirk from rear echelon troops still in france aswell as two divisions it sent from England but it was not enough to hold the German advance. And finally Britain offered France a indissoluble union with the UK but France turned it down and decided to seek an armistice instead. You Wana do abit more research mate

    • @camm8642
      @camm8642 Год назад

      the british were making evcuation plans while the french were trying to mount another offensive..........abandoned france, the channel islands, greece etc........if it wasn't for america there would have been no western front certainly not on the strength of the british.

  • @Supershade9421
    @Supershade9421 2 года назад +6

    Now imagine if German ships decided to help out the french in that battle. War might have been different, we never know for certain

  • @KelsaRavenlock
    @KelsaRavenlock 2 года назад +1

    Wow he does an ad for a war game and the video in the exact same tone and style with no break. I was probably 2 minutes in before I realised the ad was over and the video started so had to restart.