Hamelin doesn't play anything badly! He is the best 👍💯 pianist in the world IMO. Never thought I would say that because there are so many superior pianists! The only pianist that beats Hamelin is Rubinstein and that's because of Rubinsteins piano posture!
Hamelin doesn't play anything badly! He is the best 👍💯 pianist in the world IMO. Never thought I would say that because there are so many superior pianists! The only pianist that beats Hamelin is Rubinstein and that's because of Rubinsteins piano posture!
bill Bloggs Gould avoided the romantics and I’ve wondered if his technique (finger tapping) didn’t lend itself to the romantic era demands. Can’t imagine Gould playing Rachmaninov for example. Not that he couldn’t but rather that he wouldn’t. Not interested in taking the time.
YES! Finally a performance of this piece that it deserves. I've heard many artists perform this (some with big names) and never heard one I liked before this one. I played this piece and played it with the same emotional content as I hear Hamelin playing it. Everyone else rushes through it without any nuances that make this unusual sonata an amazing work. I'm so happy to finally hear this incredible rendition. Thank you.
Less ‘performing’ than ‘being’. Hamelin is a musical genius and also a magician who conjures his way deep into the human soul. Berg creates a perfect stage for magic, and Hamelin grabs the spotlight brilliantly! Well done, maestro!
It depends. His sixth Scriabin sonata is precise and athletic but devoid of mystery. He also played the Op. 71 poems too fast (like etude showpieces), the first sonata's first movement too fast, etc. He nailed Roslavets but Scriabin is a bit too ethereal for him it seems. When Michael Ponti of all people outshines you in something like Op. 71 No.1 you know you have issues. Ponti was a disaster with the large-scale works, probably due to lack of time with them, but he understood the subtlety of the quieter miniatures. Hamelin is tremendous in some pieces, certainly. His accuracy/clarity his greatest strength. But compare Pogorelich's performance of the andante from the second Scriabin sonata and there is no contest in terms of poetry. Glemser also plays the Fantasy in B minor better and the 7th sonata. I hope Hamelin will record the entire Scriabin sonatas set (including the Eb minor) again, along with the concerto. He said he would perform Scriabin differently than he did when he made that set. The highlight of all of them, in terms of his Scriabin performance, is the youth work, the Fantasy in G# minor. That is also the rare instance where Szidon shines. Finally, I wish he would record the Miaskovsky sonatas, at least 2 and 3, and the Protopopov 2nd. Allen Sapp's 3rd sonata (the only good one), Ornstein's 6th and 7th, and Tcherepnin's 13th & 14th (called Romantique and Sonata 1, respectively) and the Raff Eb minor could all benefit from his technical ability. The Raff in particular needs an interpreter who can add depth because it, like the Dukas, likes to have all the notes sit on the surface in a long chain, lacking in dynamic range. I bet Hamelin would be interesting with the 9th Prokofiev sonata as well. Richter did a fine job but the sound quality is poor.
I agree, I heard him once live play Schumann Fantasy and Bach-Busoni Chaconne and the Schumann was especially to my liking because he played it so extremely sensitive. I was totally surprised how great an interpreter he is.
Give Ponti more credit!!! I don’t remember the source but if you look you may find it. He recorded the complete Scriabin solo works on an UPRIGHT for Vox in a very cold studio he said the recording conditions were very difficult
Such a beautifully unified performance of this work! So carefully articulated, but the phrases flow so perfectly into one another. The balance really spells out Berg's orchestration as well. Wonderful!
I've known of this sonata, all my adult life but had never taken the time or trouble to sit down and listen to it, my loss. I went to hear Hamelin perform Medtner's second piano concerto a few years ago in Eastbourne (the day before he recorded it) and as an an encore, he played this sonata. Having never heard it, I just couldn't think for the life of me who had written it but I guessed it was fin de siecle, possibly Sciabin but definitely Russian! I remembered the opening theme and the intensely rich harmony and counterpoint. The musical impression haunted me and frustrated me that I didn't know who the composer was. Thank God for this posting, I can at last rest in peace! A masterpiece and a masterly performance.
Hamelin smashes it out of the park again. I remember back in the day when I was developing my piano skills as a teenager, I would listen to his rendition of Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2. But I much prefer this as the harmonic content is far richer in my opinion, and Hamelin does very well to bring out all of the novel features of Berg's musical language that come to the fore in this work. Not just a master 'no bullshit' technician but he also plays with softness and sensitivity when the piece demands it. I find that the dynamic peak of the whole sonata about 7 minutes in, because there are so many loud parts earlier on in the work, is very hard to make stand out, and slowing down dramatically adds to the heard effect of those moments. So I appreciated that. Another thing about Hamelin's playing is that a lot of people see him perform these technically demanding works and say "He's so good, I want to quit piano now!" - but when I see his playing, I can't help but feel inspired.
he really understood this Piece. And he is able to get his listener also to understand it. That's quite hard to achieve whith this Piece. Brovissimo!!!!
I heard Glenn Gould play this in recital when I was a kid (he was still doing recitals, so you can tell that was many decades ago). So this makes the _second_ understandable performance I've heard.
BERG, IS THE LAST OF THE FADING RAYS OF SUNLIGHT SHINING ON ROMANTICISM, WHICH WAS PICKED UP AGAIN BY RACHMANINOFF. IT´S VERY SENSUAL AND VERY BEAUTIFUL MOVING TO THE SOUL AND IT SURE GIVES AMPLE ROOM FOR MUSING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING. TRUTHFULLY, I LOVE THIS MUSIC, EVEN THOUGH IT THANKFULLY, DOES NOT SOUND AVANT GARDE ANY LONGER. 5 STARS.
Yes, that's a fact, but it is surprising, for all who keep him in mind just as the pupil of Schoenberg. In order to understand Berg, it is not enough to make a link to Schoenberg.
C’est l’œuvre que je préfère de Alban Berg ici, magistralement, romantiquement, poétiquement interprétée avec une immense profonde intériorité par ce grand, merveilleux pianiste Marc André Hamelin. 💥
Beautiful performance. I played this way back around 1990. I wonder if I would enjoy listening to it any less if I had not performed it. It's just such a modern, gorgeous, paroxysmal piece.
@@lsbrother Did you get that definition from Webster's by any chance? "Meaning of paroxysm in English paroxysm noun [ C ] uk /ˈpær.ɒk.sɪ.zəm/ us /ˈper.ək.sɪ.zəm/ a sudden and powerful expression of strong feeling, especially one that you cannot control:"
What Hamelin does so well with this music, is to dig deep into its Romantic roots - and he knows just how much pedal, dynamic contrast and rubato to use in the service of this approach. By contrast, Gould's version is much dryer and pristine (though not entirely without rubato and a degree of blurring a line here and there). I suppose that both of these approaches are valid - though I have not quite figured it out yet for sure...
This is a very interesting sound world….inimitable MAH….met him & chatted briefly after a function at Northwestern U, Evanston . Nice guy…tolerated my amateur level ideas & discussion about Scriabin.
thank you, more and more I want to hear Berg and Schoenberg and such like: they make more sense to my kindergartenish mind than much else, I must also include Hindemith although I am given to understand that his music is much different than the atonalists, I have not analyzed the differences. Mozart has given us some stuff that really gets to me. And as far as I hear it, Bach has it all. He plays it like it is, I hear it that way. That his music develops as nature grows things and in such wise reminds me of the drawings and paintings of Klee. Anyway... Thank you.
shilloshillos Regarding physical conditioning of pianists, are you familiar with Yefim Bronfman and Grigory Sokolov? Neither of them ready to go 5 sets with Rafael Nadal, but stupendous pianists nonetheless.
It's not the size of the wand but the magic of the magician. We recently heard Bronfman play the Bartok 2nd concerto with the NY Philharmonic. Massive, weighty, magnificent. And after the applause died down he sat right back down at the keyboard and played the most exquisitely delicate Schumann Arabesque I have ever heard. Everyone had to look twice to see whether it was really the same pianist.
Hamelin is beyond compare. The most 'organic" pianist on the planet. But he seems to age fast. His hair is going, wrinkles etc. I hope he is trying to keep fit and eat properly. A pianist must be in perfect physical condition or else...
But Berg was the one romantic of the Second Viennese School, and even though Schoenberg forced Berg to think instrumentally, he still thought very melodically. So this should be phrased as if it were a romantic piece, it’s as atonal as Mahler’s 9th symphony, (who is a romantic composer) and this sonata is clearly in b minor.
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Finally an interpretation that makes sense from beginning to end ! Hamelin is such an immense pianist.
Yudina's stays consistent, this one is quite like Yudina's.
Hamelin doesn't play anything badly! He is the best 👍💯 pianist in the world IMO. Never thought I would say that because there are so many superior pianists! The only pianist that beats Hamelin is Rubinstein and that's because of Rubinsteins piano posture!
Hamelin doesn't play anything badly! He is the best 👍💯 pianist in the world IMO. Never thought I would say that because there are so many superior pianists! The only pianist that beats Hamelin is Rubinstein and that's because of Rubinsteins piano posture!
bill Bloggs Gould avoided the romantics and I’ve wondered if his technique (finger tapping) didn’t lend itself to the romantic era demands. Can’t imagine Gould playing Rachmaninov for example. Not that he couldn’t but rather that he wouldn’t. Not interested in taking the time.
YES! Finally a performance of this piece that it deserves. I've heard many artists perform this (some with big names) and never heard one I liked before this one. I played this piece and played it with the same emotional content as I hear Hamelin playing it. Everyone else rushes through it without any nuances that make this unusual sonata an amazing work. I'm so happy to finally hear this incredible rendition. Thank you.
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Less ‘performing’ than ‘being’. Hamelin is a musical genius and also a magician who conjures his way deep into the human soul. Berg creates a perfect stage for magic, and Hamelin grabs the spotlight brilliantly! Well done, maestro!
People tend to think and say that hamelin is just a dry technician at the piano should be ashamed - his musicality is just impeccable
It depends. His sixth Scriabin sonata is precise and athletic but devoid of mystery. He also played the Op. 71 poems too fast (like etude showpieces), the first sonata's first movement too fast, etc. He nailed Roslavets but Scriabin is a bit too ethereal for him it seems. When Michael Ponti of all people outshines you in something like Op. 71 No.1 you know you have issues. Ponti was a disaster with the large-scale works, probably due to lack of time with them, but he understood the subtlety of the quieter miniatures. Hamelin is tremendous in some pieces, certainly. His accuracy/clarity his greatest strength. But compare Pogorelich's performance of the andante from the second Scriabin sonata and there is no contest in terms of poetry. Glemser also plays the Fantasy in B minor better and the 7th sonata. I hope Hamelin will record the entire Scriabin sonatas set (including the Eb minor) again, along with the concerto. He said he would perform Scriabin differently than he did when he made that set. The highlight of all of them, in terms of his Scriabin performance, is the youth work, the Fantasy in G# minor. That is also the rare instance where Szidon shines. Finally, I wish he would record the Miaskovsky sonatas, at least 2 and 3, and the Protopopov 2nd. Allen Sapp's 3rd sonata (the only good one), Ornstein's 6th and 7th, and Tcherepnin's 13th & 14th (called Romantique and Sonata 1, respectively) and the Raff Eb minor could all benefit from his technical ability. The Raff in particular needs an interpreter who can add depth because it, like the Dukas, likes to have all the notes sit on the surface in a long chain, lacking in dynamic range. I bet Hamelin would be interesting with the 9th Prokofiev sonata as well. Richter did a fine job but the sound quality is poor.
I agree, I heard him once live play Schumann Fantasy and Bach-Busoni Chaconne and the Schumann was especially to my liking because he played it so extremely sensitive. I was totally surprised how great an interpreter he is.
Give Ponti more credit!!! I don’t remember the source but if you look you may find it. He recorded the complete Scriabin solo works on an UPRIGHT for Vox in a very cold studio he said the recording conditions were very difficult
I can't explain why I like this so much, but I can't stop listening..
THE most beautiful performance of the Berg Sonata I have ever heard. I heard him play it live here in NYC and was mesmerized.
I don't like modern composers but Hamelin make me love Berg too..
Very lucky of you
Such a beautifully unified performance of this work! So carefully articulated, but the phrases flow so perfectly into one another. The balance really spells out Berg's orchestration as well. Wonderful!
I've known of this sonata, all my adult life but had never taken the time or trouble to sit down and listen to it, my loss.
I went to hear Hamelin perform Medtner's second piano concerto a few years ago in Eastbourne (the day before he recorded it) and as an an encore, he played this sonata.
Having never heard it, I just couldn't think for the life of me who had written it but I guessed it was fin de siecle, possibly Sciabin but definitely Russian!
I remembered the opening theme and the intensely rich harmony and counterpoint. The musical impression haunted me and frustrated me that I didn't know who the composer was.
Thank God for this posting, I can at last rest in peace!
A masterpiece and a masterly performance.
Hamelin smashes it out of the park again. I remember back in the day when I was developing my piano skills as a teenager, I would listen to his rendition of Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2. But I much prefer this as the harmonic content is far richer in my opinion, and Hamelin does very well to bring out all of the novel features of Berg's musical language that come to the fore in this work. Not just a master 'no bullshit' technician but he also plays with softness and sensitivity when the piece demands it. I find that the dynamic peak of the whole sonata about 7 minutes in, because there are so many loud parts earlier on in the work, is very hard to make stand out, and slowing down dramatically adds to the heard effect of those moments. So I appreciated that.
Another thing about Hamelin's playing is that a lot of people see him perform these technically demanding works and say "He's so good, I want to quit piano now!" - but when I see his playing, I can't help but feel inspired.
Complimenti una delle migliori interpretazioni di questa sonata!
he really understood this Piece. And he is able to get his listener also to understand it. That's quite hard to achieve whith this Piece. Brovissimo!!!!
I heard Glenn Gould play this in recital when I was a kid (he was still doing recitals, so you can tell that was many decades ago). So this makes the _second_ understandable performance I've heard.
Arguably best performance of Berg’s Sonata and Marc Andre Hamelin himself.
BERG, IS THE LAST OF THE FADING RAYS OF SUNLIGHT SHINING ON ROMANTICISM, WHICH WAS PICKED UP AGAIN BY RACHMANINOFF.
IT´S VERY SENSUAL AND VERY BEAUTIFUL MOVING TO THE SOUL AND IT SURE GIVES AMPLE ROOM FOR MUSING ABOUT EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING.
TRUTHFULLY, I LOVE THIS MUSIC, EVEN THOUGH IT THANKFULLY, DOES NOT SOUND AVANT GARDE ANY LONGER. 5 STARS.
Ron Walker You know, you can turn caps off...
Ron Walker Have a look at Rautavaara. His music is wonderful and also rather romantic. Still kind of modern, but so is Berg.
What a magnificent interpretation!. Every detail is meaning as some listeners noticed.
Absolutely brilliant. Completely illuminating that score and the composers intentions.
And I forgot to tell the most important: what Hamelin does, also touches the listener. This Sonata rarely sounds that emotional.
The best performance of this work I have ever heard, he brings out such intensity of feeling in the music, amazing.
What a fantastic pianist!!!!
Great rendition! So interesting that Berg repeatedly quotes from
Scriabin's "Fantasy in B minor".
Yes, that's a fact, but it is surprising, for all who keep him in mind just as the pupil of Schoenberg. In order to understand Berg, it is not enough to make a link to Schoenberg.
I hope Berg knew of Scriabin's existence. Scriabin's fame was growing greatly during his younger years
He is definitely a long-life virtuoso.
C’est l’œuvre que je préfère de Alban Berg ici, magistralement, romantiquement, poétiquement interprétée avec une immense profonde intériorité par ce grand, merveilleux pianiste Marc André Hamelin. 💥
Superb. So agree with the other comments here. What a profound experience he makes of this piece.
I agree completely with Dr. Faustus. Memorable.
Stunning!!
He understands and brings out the quartal chord at 2:02, which signals the utterly alien and new break with tonality in this essentially tonal piece.
Beautiful performance. I played this way back around 1990. I wonder if I would enjoy listening to it any less if I had not performed it. It's just such a modern, gorgeous, paroxysmal piece.
paroxysm:- “severe illness, fit of agony” - you feeling o.k.?
@@lsbrother Did you get that definition from Webster's by any chance?
"Meaning of paroxysm in English
paroxysm
noun [ C ]
uk
/ˈpær.ɒk.sɪ.zəm/ us
/ˈper.ək.sɪ.zəm/
a sudden and powerful expression of strong feeling, especially one that you cannot control:"
What Hamelin does so well with this music, is to dig deep into its Romantic roots - and he knows just how much pedal, dynamic contrast and rubato to use in the service of this approach. By contrast, Gould's version is much dryer and pristine (though not entirely without rubato and a degree of blurring a line here and there). I suppose that both of these approaches are valid - though I have not quite figured it out yet for sure...
Bravo!
Piano sonata as expressive and intense as a Mahler symphony
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This is a very interesting sound world….inimitable MAH….met him & chatted briefly after a function at Northwestern U, Evanston . Nice guy…tolerated my amateur level ideas & discussion about Scriabin.
thank you, more and more I want to hear Berg and Schoenberg and such like: they make more sense to my kindergartenish mind than much else, I must also include Hindemith although I am given to understand that his music is much different than the atonalists, I have not analyzed the differences. Mozart has given us some stuff that really gets to me. And as far as I hear it, Bach has it all. He plays it like it is, I hear it that way. That his music develops as nature grows things and in such wise reminds me of the drawings and paintings of Klee. Anyway... Thank you.
shilloshillos Regarding physical conditioning of pianists, are you familiar with Yefim Bronfman and Grigory Sokolov? Neither of them ready to go 5 sets with Rafael Nadal, but stupendous pianists nonetheless.
Although 5 sets against Nadal isn't sounding so hard, sadly. I think his age passed, but I'm still a huge fan.
It's not the size of the wand but the magic of the magician. We recently heard Bronfman play the Bartok 2nd concerto with the NY Philharmonic. Massive, weighty, magnificent. And after the applause died down he sat right back down at the keyboard and played the most exquisitely delicate Schumann Arabesque I have ever heard. Everyone had to look twice to see whether it was really the same pianist.
Something soft and dark like black velvet. But fascinating.
An excellent performance. The composition itself, however, diverts my thoughts towards Mozart’s ‘Ein musikalischer Spaß’ K. 522.
But what about Webern and Schoenberg?
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후기 낭만적 반음계가 가득한 곡으로 조성 범위 내에 있지만 조성이 끊임없이 변화하고 화성, 선율 진행이 반음계적이라 불안한 느낌
...and even in the musically civilized Moscow, the hysterical coughing is unbearable. Despite this, great playing.
Hamelin is beyond compare. The most 'organic" pianist on the planet. But he seems to age fast. His hair is going, wrinkles etc. I hope he is trying to keep fit and eat properly. A pianist must be in perfect physical condition or else...
1minute 11secondes ??????
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6 MINUTES 42 SECONDES,?????
Are you always so pedantic??????
9 MINUTES 55SECONDES???????
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This IMO is not a great piece of music, yet Hamlin does play it well.
Fucking cough
4 MINUTES 33SECONDES??????
I humbly think that modernist composers should not be played as if they were romantic composers.
But Berg was the one romantic of the Second Viennese School, and even though Schoenberg forced Berg to think instrumentally, he still thought very melodically. So this should be phrased as if it were a romantic piece, it’s as atonal as Mahler’s 9th symphony, (who is a romantic composer) and this sonata is clearly in b minor.
Thank you for your answer. This is a very interesting point.
@@coleb.t.6905 Exactly. It's actually very similar to Scriabin in style.
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