My dearest Tim, My husband who has NEVER voted in his life- because he thinks all politicians are assholes and don’t work for the people but for themselves - which I can’t blame him for - WILL BE VOTING THIS ELECTION! I cook every night for my boys ( my hubby and my son - it makes me happy - I’m a feminist through and through but I love cooking for them ) We listen to the show as I cook. Something has got through to my hard headed hubby and now he is voting. I asked him why. Why now? He said he can’t stand Trump and worries what he would do and has already done to the people he loves. So thank you Tim Miller & Friends of the Bulwark News Show! We have another voter! Who knows - there may be more just like him out there! As always - thank you for the great show! ❤❤❤❤ 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 It’s a happy day!
Ive noticed that JD Vance looks even more angry and unhinged since being selected as VP. His facial expressions now are insane. I live in Ohio. I was in Springfield a few months ago. Ive never heard of anything related to Haitians eating cats and dogs until now. Ive worked with all kinds of different migrant communities and they are some of the most hardworking and responsible individuals. I found them to be more willing to do good work, showing up on time, agreeable, solution driven than the folks who have lived here all their life. I lived in Dominican Republic, not far from the Haitian/DR border and I will tell you that the folks have come from unbelievable poverty and suffering. I welcome them to Ohio.
I see JD Vance’s psychological decompensation too. He is in Trump’s malignant orbit 24/7 now. To someone of JD Vance’s susceptible psychology, his mind is being poisoned by the Trump contagion.
Thank goodness I have you guys. I live with a Trump supporter, and I feel crazy most of the time... and then I listen to you and realize that I am not crazy. I don't have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I just have a healthy bullsh!t detector.
Easier said then done!! 27 plus years together, he became Maga....deep in rabbit hole!! Selling his house to move to a Red state!! I'm not going!!! At 77 whatever time I have left will be around normal people!!! So I am packing!
Vance has the backing of Silicon Valley billionaires such as Peter Thiel. They literally want to control the world, and they hope to remove Trump from the Presidency and replace him with Vance, who they know will be better at implementing Project 2025.
My husband is a Republican and Thanks God he is voting for Kamala! I believe that they should Lock Trump and keep him safe “ forever “ ! Vote Blue for Democracy! 💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
Kudos to your hubby! You're doing the right thing, sir. Because it's not Democrats v. Republicans; it's democracy v. fascism. Thank you, and best to you and your family.
Please thank your husband for this! He knows that policy will somehow be worked out in Congess. But the state of our Democracy is dangling by a thread and we need all they help we can to defeat this wannabe autocratic!! Who wants to be just like Putin. If you are someone who think that this country is so bad and has the money like dump trump has, he can leave and go be with his buddy Putin!!! IJS!!😊
I personally think that the Ohio Haitian Community should take legal action against these lies and hate speech that is causing violence against their Community. Because reckless speech like this should never go unchecked.
right! That's what I keep thinking. Unfortunately, I assume they don't have the resources to do so? I also keep thinking can we all just sue Trump and Vance for Defamation lol?
Apparently he would have had to identify specific individuals for them to sue him for defamation. Slandering an entire community, even if it brings violence upon them, is something you can get away with. He's smart. He knows how to cover his own quivering ass.
When even one American - who has done nothing wrong - is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth - then all Americans are in peril. Harry S Truman
I'm a conservative. I used to belong to the Republican party until it became the extremists' party that I no longer recognized. I'm voting for Democracy, for the constitution, and for the rule of law. This election is not about policies. This election is about preserving what this country was founded on!!! I'm voting for the ONLY CHOICE WE HAVE, KAMALA HARRIS.
Lifelong independent here. This isn't about left vs right, it's Democracy vs Fascism. Democracy is big enough for liberals and conservatives but we have to preserve democracy first. The great thing about democracy is that there's always another election.
"Republicans for Harris" is hopefully a wake-up call that the MAGA fascist GOP of Trump is Republican in name only! A lot of people vote by reflex because of the party name, not what it stands for.
Outstanding. Glad to hear it. We need to get away from this insanity and bring some patriotism back - helping your neighbors regardless of their views. This is America 🇺🇸 Freedom Liberty 🗽 and Justice ⚖️ for All People
I’m sorry but it’s extremely DISAPPOINTING that Gov. DeWine didn’t finish that interview with “TRUMP AND VANCE NEED TO STOP THESE LIES”? He’s 77 what HARM would it cause his “future career” in politics. I don’t see him running for president as much as any other position in politics. It’s just sad.
It's similar to the cowardice of former Senator Rob Portman, who refused to convict Trump for his fraudulent electors and violent attack on the Capitol. It's all about saving their own ass, and if that means throwing the country under the bus, so be it.
The man accused of some non-violent “assassination attempt,” was merely observing a golf game, by trump’s own standards, “peacefully and patriotically.” He is now, again by trump’s standards, a “political prisoner.”
It's a sad day in America when a guy can't be out on the golf course with an AK-47...exercising his Second Amendment rights...without Republicans getting all uptight about it.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. -Martin Niemöller First, trump came for the immigrants... Leviticus 19:33-34 "You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself". Idk what bible they read.
It's hard to protect Trump, because it was Trump who removed the rule that crazy people should not be able to buy weapons of war. They want crazy people to be armed, because they know that there are far more crazy people on the right, who will take up arms against their next door neighbors, city officials, and law enforcement when Trump calls for violence against all enemies.
My sympathy is with the US taxpayer footing the bill for the Secret Service protecting a tax-evading, treasonous insurrectionist, including playing golf.😂
JD Vance has to be the fastest, most radical and blatant example of how a normal person from extremely humble beginnings goes into politics, and becomes an absolute, unrecognizable monster.
It's because Mike dewine is on the edge of being indicted for being a part of the first energy scandal. His hands are dirty and there's evidence everywhere that he was involved. He just hasn't been charged yet. He's covering his ass. Which All he does anymore.
If Trump is re-elected and can't serve 4 years then Vance would be president. Vance, Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation in the WH. Now that's really frightening
How does the Secret Service secure an 18 hole golf course at a Reasonable cost, just so this Ex-president can play a round of golf AND MAKE A TON OF MONEY WHILE HE IS BEING PROTECTED AT HIS OWN BUSINESS !!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUS ! How much money do we have to spend so he can make money off the American taxpayers? It's a reasonable question.
Indeed. There are so many high velocity guns in the US - I can’t imagine that the secret service can establish a secure perimeter of at least half a mile.
I was thinking the same. He can go pay for own amped up security at his private golf course! The difference about others who are protected don't run their mouths off daily provoking violence.
Blame the unhinged people who voted for Dumpy the first time. Dumpy was looking for life time protection and got it. That’s probably one of the reasons they want him gone .
Get out support for Collin Allred and get Ted Cruz out of the Senate!! And M.-Powel is in a statistical tie with Tim Scott in Florida. Come on folks!!!
If anybody actually called, they were just repeating lies and rumors from the Internet or the bar. Calls letters and emails are usually logged by congressional offices so The Truth is Out There!
It’s certainly possible that some right-wing trolls, possibly even from out of state, did so. There is zero chance any actual constituents did so. Why would they call their Senator about a missing pet? They’d call the police.
I agree and even if someone did call doesn’t mean it’s true. Unfortunately it could be someone who is not well mentally or whatever. I guarantee if I called my governor and said something similar, it would be ignored with no response and not become headline news to the point where schools and hospitals are having to close down.
He is Trump's little doormat so he will continue to do these things. We have to vote BLUE to get rid of Trump and Vance, they are dangerous to our democracy.
Bill, I have to say that I am truly impressed with your objectivity about your past actions and attacks on liberals. I still consider myself a liberal and, as my bank account will attest, I'm certainly no liberal elite. Listening to you and the variety of hosts and guests on the Bullwork, tells me that despite our political differences we really have so much more in common than not... And it's not merely that we are for democracy and anti-Trump. I would actually like to see some permanent alliances created from our realizing our commonality and perhaps the Bullwork can be a part of that, if not now,, hopefully after the election. There's a lot of work to do building a sane democracy together. Let's do that together. Thanks to you both
In my father's 20 years in the Secret Service, most in White House details, not once did he have to secure a President or VP who were devout racists and regularly incited violence with their everyday rhetoric. As sad as I am that he's passed on, I'm glad he doesn't have to see what a dystopian reality the country has become.
I understand your conflicted feelings. I feel the same about my mom's 2013 death. Given her attitude before she died from her steady diet of hate and fear from Fox/Beck/Limbaugh, she would have been extreme MAGA. I would have had to go no contact. Due to my religious beliefs, I'd rather lose her to death than lose her to hate. 😿
@@TheDeadlyefx Maybe we have different notions of dystopia, but I think we are already in dystopian territory. That doesn’t mean it’s hopeless, though. If we have not descended too far into dystopia, there is a chance we can recover and return to normality. But if we are in it, that does not relieve us of our moral agency or the necessity that we fight for what is right. We are not excused from the challenges ahead because the world is going to hell.
Welcome to Fox News and X country, where lies can be spread 24/4. You guys still don't get that your way of freedom of speech the way you understand it can lead you straight into autocracy..
@@dinosaurandnapkin I'm at the point now that the people who I know and are still voting Trump are going into my gaslighting file. There is enough information now that it is clear the election should no longer be about policy, it is about keeping a crazy fool and his minions out of the White House. Therefore if someone is still voting for a group that divide the people, could bring down the Republic, they are an enemy of the State. They (who are voting for him) are also IMHO are dangerous people.
This has become my favorite politics channel over just a few months. The mix of Dem & Republican hosts and guests is my idea of what our country needs to be - again. I grew up in the '50s and '60s. I remember the '50s being very cooperative between parties, with the country being the first consideration. (McCarthy was seen as a charlatan, finally.) As the 60s wore on, this was destroyed by the Vietnam war and look where we are now. So, this old Democrat watches The Bulwark to see intelligent, often humorous conversations between them, again. It's damned good and I thank you all! 💐
I'm stuck at the irony of media saying Congress needs to allocate more funding to the Secret Service so that they can better protect the man who is calling for a government shutdown.
Yeah Tim. In the mid 70's, it was an Asian Community consisting of Vietnamese, Laotian, and Hmong refugees. And THEY were the ones supposedly eating our cats. It was stupid back then and it's stupid now.
Yeah, I was going to say that in the 70s, it was Chinese restaurants using cat meat in the food they serve. Surprisingly, I heard this same lie repeated in South America just a few years ago. Racism knows no borders.
And it was disgusting to say about people that migrant to make a better life for themselves regardless of the circumstances that led to their relocation to the United States of America.
My grandmother came to Los Angeles from Japan when she was a baby during the 1900s. When the pet eating racial slur surfaced in the 70s, she told us about it being directed at her and her family in the 1910s. A Chinese friend of the family confirmed that the slur had been around for a long time and applied to Chinese immigrants and Chinese Americans. I suspect the racist allegation goes back to the initial waves of Chinese immigration to the U.S. (during the California Gold Rush and the building of the railroad) and the “Yellow Peril” hysteria that followed. Trump, Vance, and maga are tapping into the same fears that spurred violence, discrimination, and racist laws against Chinese immigrants and Chinese Americans. Mobs burned down Chinese enclaves in West Coast cities, Chinese people were robbed, homes and businesses were looted, and hundreds of Chinese people were lynched or shot. “Haitian immigrants eating pets” is a play in the white supremacist play book. It’s an opening gambit and a call to arms. Trump and Vance might not know all the history, but people like Stephen Miller and Laura Loomer do.
I must say that after I did landscaping in our house previously occupied by a large Vietnamese family, about 10 members, I found a big pit full of bones. Too many and different to be regular meat bones.
This is a calculated, well planned strategy to get rid of a strong Haitian community who are legally working and filling jobs not filled by Americans. Even Gov De Wine acknowledged the need and usefulness of employing the Haitians. Thanks to JD Vance now the group is living in fear for their families.
@@TBD-wt2xq True, however he doesn’t care since they have special status and are not eligible to vote. I wonder what industry or business in Canton has engaged their services and if that in fact is the whole driving factor behind this entire hullabaloo. Is there any donor rivalry behind it or just plain racism ?
Trump is the richest person to ever be president of the united states, why exactly must our tax dollars pay to secure his entire golf course and resort?!? If he wants to make it secure he should pay for it (not that he pays for anything).
adjusted for inflation, washington was probably richer. sure, if you take trump at his word, he's worth twenty times what washington was, but surely no one outside his cult is taking him at his word?
Nor did he take a wage as president, you research how rich some of the insider trading that politicians carry out makes them, specifically Nancy pelvis and the Apple and google insider trading she did
@@dnash2131Felon DJT didn’t take a wage because he was being paid through foreign donations for favours! And, he is the only President not to reveal his tax records prior to (or after) taking office - as required!
My husband has never voted and when I asked him about watching the debate with me..he said “I doubt she is going to stand a chance”…but I challenged him to watch…and low and behold he saw her strength 😊and her dedication to the middle class and women’s reproductive rights and so much more from her plus my husband laughed out loud when she said world leaders know DT’s weakness for flattery and those leaders would “EAT HIM FOR LUNCH”….and he saw DT’s total lunacy! 💙🇺🇸🇺🇸💙 VOTE BLUE UP & DOWN THE BALLOT… IT WILL GIVE US A CHANCE TO WORK ON PROTECTING OUR DEMOCRACY FOR THE FUTURE! 💙🇺🇸🇺🇸💙
Perhaps he could parachute in to make a statement? That banner must still be around somewhere…the military standing to attention might be a problem. Or, he could just make a statement.
@@antipop885 if anyone is even interested Ukraine with the help of allies has pretty much destroyed Putins world easily Sweden and Poland helped immensely
How does Vance's Indian wife put up with that crap? And the comment by Laura Loomer about curry and call centres? Baffling how anyone could vote for him. I was so p!ssed off about what Vance did in Ohio that I donated to Ohio Democrat Senator Sherrod Brown's campaign. Vote blue Harris/Walz 💙💙💙💙
And where is she? I haven’t seen her out on the campaign trail supporting her husband. Last time I saw her was that atrocious interview where she looked like a hostage.
The Haitian immigrants have been coming to America since before the 1950s if not before. I grew up and attended school with them. They have always been hard working and law abiding citizens. They do not eat cats and dogs.
I'm 45. I remember racist comments from aunts and uncles of mine talking about Asian immigrants from Vietnam and Laos stealing pets and eating them. It was disgusting then and is disgusting now. 27:02
How was Dana so unprepared to respond to Vance's attack on her? That crap should have been shut down immediately, even if it required her to tell him to shut up and have his mic cut.
Dana Bash is totally ineffective as an interviewer. My guess is she's afraid. She's dropped the perverbial ball before! She's been described as a no nonsense anchor as has been Jake Tapper, but I beg to differ! Totally disappointing.
@@Deborah-u5kI really don’t like either one of them. I’m a Rachel Maddox/MSNBC fan. Rachel graduated from the same high school I did (15 years later, lol.)
@@carriteIt blows my mind. It makes me wonder how much my political views are changing or the dynamics of the nation driven by the heinous nature of the electoral college is bringing this on because of the constant losing by the right.
@@cindyabraham5503 We could lose the republic to Trump in 50 days. Then suffer from a dictatorship for the next 500 years. The upside down world is collapsing into reality. I hope it falls on our side.
@@JudyMascaro ... Might be a MAGA in hiding? Like John Roberts and his Ex-wife were CNN Reporters ─ then suddenly left and became Hard-core Fox Media! Regards,
Absolutely shut down the interview. These racist interviews are endangering people. Vance and trump have been pressed to disavow their statements, bomb threats, but they continue to fan the flames. It is irresponsible at this point to give them ANY platform.
That was an embarrassing performance from her. She looked out of it or scared as if she was afraid of losing her access. CNN always bends over backwards to be overly generous towards the right to avoid accusations of liberal bias. However, when one side appreciates facts and the other denies facts, the news should have a bias towards the truth NOT towards faux “neutrality”
They used to say they are presenting, 'alternative facts' instead of admitting they're lying. Now according to JD 'creating' stories is the new way of lying.
"create stories" can be taken two ways. A story can either be made up out of thin air, or, a series of smaller events or incidences can be made into a larger narrative on a bigger stage or platform. the latter is what is happening, not the first. Vance is creating a narrative surrounding incidental reports. there are witnesses to these duck killings. cats have been found mutilated in Houston even, not just in Ohio.
Always enjoy Mondays with Mr Kristol. I found his article today insightful and it hit the bullseye of the issue, the promotion of hate and fear mongering.
Yes, but his inability to understand/acknowledge the deep well of racism/othering in the GOP is troubling...if you don't accept this reality, you can't rebuild a better party.
Think about this...trump's protection is costing taxpayers millions of dollars! So, technically, trump and his rich buddies aren't paying for his protection because trump gave them massive tax cuts.
45 and his campaign will use anything, ANYTHING, to get the conversation about him. Lies, real threats, whatever, to put his name in everyone's mouth. PLEASE, limit the amount of time dedicated to covering him or Vance.
Ohio should immediately force the resignation of its senator for endangering the lives of his own constituents -- Haitians who were recruited to revitalize the economy of a dying town, who pay taxes, work hard, and who filled the labor shortage, willing to work in hard manual labor that their white neighbors were unwilling to do.
Every answer on the immigrants should be, “If you really cared, why kill the bill that would fix it?” Every reporter, surrogate, podcaster should use it and shut them the hell up. DO SOMETHING means we all need to do something to stop their talking points. He did interviews because he can’t get a crowd. Let them find a new way,we’re all sick of this bullshit. Badass 💙 all the way.
I agree but dems said it was a start. A step is a step and they weren’t giving up more then that step. You have to start somewhere. It’s ridiculous that two parties can’t agree on anything but it was a step.
Just think...the Secret Service protection agents would have to go to prison with trump. That's insane! I certainly believe a traitor to this country should never be given Secret Service protection!
@@-Gramps and he will get what he wants. He always does. I don’t know how he does it. If I believed, I’d say it was a deal for his soul. But it’s something.
Tim, you and George Conway are my go-to -guys that comfort me in this madness. Thank you also for your sense of humor, because it's so insane, that you either gotta laugh or cry.
The accused man seems to have been 'disappointed' with trump-although he did at some point vote for him---I ADMIT, that at first, BEFORE who was accused was ID, I was PRAYING it was'nt a man of color--because it would have caused a racist basis for trump to campaign on. I was releived it was another white man. I AM WHITE, 74, and just want this BS OVERWITH. Vote blue PLEASE.
A “reasonable Republican” would not endorse or vote for Donald Trump But it seems like there are plenty of Ohio residents who are rightly pissed, giving press conferences and going to Haitian-owned business in Springfield to show their support & solidarity. Unfortunately, we still have a large group of people who believe everything they read on Facebook. Then they retell it to their friends or even to journalists as “I heard xyz” when really they just mean they read it on Facebook lmao
It's amazing, you never hear about the culture change when white euopeans migrate here. It's only black and brown people who affects the culture. I wonder why that is?
The new Ohio businesses said they asked the Haitians to come and fill jobs that were not able to be filled The businesses said they are very happy with these Immigrants
Let's just hope that Vance doesn't change his tune. I believe that he and Trump are self-destructing. Yes, their supporters are bound more strongly, but others are repelled just as strongly. And yes! Harris should do interviews and events around the arts. Trump never talks about art, or music, it theater, or movies or anything that normal people like.
I live in Utah and there is a food truck serving Haitian food : his business is now a forth of what it was before JD Vance and Trump's untrue statements!
It's tragic the chaos Trump has caused over the years. Hopefully he's defeated in November and the legal cases against him can no longer be delayed.Enough of this turd...banish him to prison already.
These people literally call themselves “Christians”. They’re knowingly falsely targeting legal asylum seekers who escaped a wore torn country, came and saved a failing town in America. How anyone can look at them and say, “these are my guys” is mind boggling to me.
You say Trump/Vance is an extreme ticket and they are, but when undecided voters are polled, they tend to think the Harris/Walz ticket is too liberal, but fewer think T/V is too conservative. So frustrating!
Even before he blurted out that he created the story, he was hinting at the same. In multiple interviews, he said things like, "we'll eventually figure out whether this is completely or partially true, or not true at all. But it won't matter how true it is, because we will have brought attention to this issue." He tweeted out the same: "this might not be correct. But keep the cat memes flowing anyway."
The urban legend is actually older than that, people were talking about Chinese immigrants putting cats in the food at Chinese restaurants back in the 60s. I'd bet you could find stories like this going back to the first time a white person met a non-white person.
We knew that in many Countries in Asia, they did have menus' with Pets... And they are much less now... And that was long time ago... Hoped all Nations/Cultures would see eating certain Animals considered "Un-civilized. Regards,
@@carmencajayon937 Your word choice is a bit off, you don't get to define what's 'uncivilized' when talking about different cultures and their food choices. There probably are some values/morals every human society agrees on, but which animals you can eat (or if you should eat any of them at all) is not one of them. You're not more 'civilized' just because eating rabbits (which btw are pets in many families) is acceptable, but not eating cats.
Silly that I should have to say this, but I know some Haitians in Florida, and they are wonderful people, here only because of the disastrous conditions in poor Haiti.
Australian journalists didn't fact check John Howard or Tony Abbott or the LNP for years as they spewed lies - especially about immigration and asylum seekers - "Children Overboard" and Siv-X. Even our ABC capitulated as Howard began to dismantle the funding and install lackeys on the board. The character of our nation has been changed for the worse because of them and the lack of direct scrutiny, led by Murdoch's domination of our media - made possible by, to their unadmitted shame, the Labor Party.
American interviewers are weak. See the Australian do the Axios interview of Trump or the Newagents discussion of the difference between the way British politicians are interviewed (look up Fern Briton v Tony Blair for a tame one)
She absolutely DID challenge him to do exactly that. And confronted him with facts, with what the DNR and the mayor were saying, that that there were no credible reports, that the immigrants were completely legal, etc. Vance just told her to "Shut up" (yes, that's a quote), doubled down and overtalked her.
Is there going to be repercussions from his behavior. It would have been if this was Harris or Walz. If I was in the Haitian population in Ohio, I would definitely file a lawsuit. News media is not talking about this at all. Shout out to Meidas Touch❤
Are Donald Trump and J.D.Vance, their wives and their relatives, are they all Native Americans? That's incredible. 🇺🇸 Who are they to talk about anyone else coming here?
Trump's wife was an illegal immigrant when her visa expired and she stayed in the US. Trump bought her an Einstein visa which are reserved for people who are outstanding in their fields - authors, athletes, peacemakers - not for someone who is a future wife of Trump
Also, I’m offended by a man who takes advantage of the Secret Service sworn to protect him. I doubt he would feel so confident if he didn’t have them there to protect him.
I sort of understand George W.'s desire to stay out of the Trump shooting gallery, but for God's sake the country's in a crisis and he's sitting on his back porch whittling.
no free lunch. pay your way. it's because of freebies that stuff costs so much. as a taxpayer, I"m sick of taking care of everyone else. goddamn socialist idealism.
Worked in public high schools for 36 years. The kids would always say, “Talk shit, get hit.” Trump always talks much of that. Does he invite that? The irony is the hardcore gun rights advocates, those wearing lapel pins of military firearms, will be the ones yelling about these incidents the loudest.
My dearest Tim,
My husband who has NEVER voted in his life- because he thinks all politicians are assholes and don’t work for the people but for themselves - which I can’t blame him for - WILL BE VOTING THIS ELECTION!
I cook every night for my boys ( my hubby and my son - it makes me happy - I’m a feminist through and through but I love cooking for them )
We listen to the show as I cook. Something has got through to my hard headed hubby and now he is voting.
I asked him why. Why now? He said he can’t stand Trump and worries what he would do and has already done to the people he loves.
So thank you Tim Miller & Friends of the Bulwark News Show! We have another voter!
Who knows - there may be more just like him out there!
As always - thank you for the great show! ❤❤❤❤
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
It’s a happy day!
Thank you to you both
Great! Welcome. 💙
Thank you to your hubby!!! We need him!
That is wonderful!!!!
Wonderful story and thanks for sharing!!! Vote blue 💙💙💙
Ive noticed that JD Vance looks even more angry and unhinged since being selected as VP. His facial expressions now are insane. I live in Ohio. I was in Springfield a few months ago. Ive never heard of anything related to Haitians eating cats and dogs until now. Ive worked with all kinds of different migrant communities and they are some of the most hardworking and responsible individuals. I found them to be more willing to do good work, showing up on time, agreeable, solution driven than the folks who have lived here all their life. I lived in Dominican Republic, not far from the Haitian/DR border and I will tell you that the folks have come from unbelievable poverty and suffering. I welcome them to Ohio.
I see JD Vance’s psychological decompensation too. He is in Trump’s malignant orbit 24/7 now. To someone of JD Vance’s susceptible psychology, his mind is being poisoned by the Trump contagion.
They're learning another language while Donald 's limited vocabulary is shrinking on a regular basis.
Vance looking more devilish/ satan
Thank you!
@@sarahchristine2345Seems like a theme among this group of people:
Peter Theil
JD Vance
Trump
Elon Musk
Thank goodness I have you guys. I live with a Trump supporter, and I feel crazy most of the time... and then I listen to you and realize that I am not crazy. I don't have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I just have a healthy bullsh!t detector.
Get out of the situation.
Easier said then done!! 27 plus years together, he became Maga....deep in rabbit hole!! Selling his house to move to a Red state!! I'm not going!!! At 77 whatever time I have left will be around normal people!!!
So I am packing!
I live with one too, so I feel your pain. We just completely avoid the topic.
I am so sorry! Hang on and have faith that enlightenment will come to your spouse! ❤️
Good luck and hang on to your values!
Imagine this man will be second in power if 78-yr-old Trump is re-elected. This is a real horror show!
By the time he’d be in office (which isn’t going to happen 🙏) he’ll almost be 79.
@@amberliekhus7873 and God forbid he will resign or something that JD Vance will become President
An American Horror Story right there.
Vance has the backing of Silicon Valley billionaires such as Peter Thiel. They literally want to control the world, and they hope to remove Trump from the Presidency and replace him with Vance, who they know will be better at implementing Project 2025.
@@gopeng925been saying this for weeks.
My husband is a Republican and Thanks God he is voting for Kamala! I believe that they should Lock Trump and keep him safe “ forever “ ! Vote Blue for Democracy! 💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
I've been told voting for Kamala is sexy. 😂
It would keep the whole world safer!
Kudos to your hubby! You're doing the right thing, sir. Because it's not Democrats v. Republicans; it's democracy v. fascism. Thank you, and best to you and your family.
@@marileedewitt2713Bingo👍
Please thank your husband for this! He knows that policy will somehow be worked out in Congess. But the state of our Democracy is dangling by a thread and we need all they help we can to defeat this wannabe autocratic!! Who wants to be just like Putin. If you are someone who think that this country is so bad and has the money like dump trump has, he can leave and go be with his buddy Putin!!! IJS!!😊
I personally think that the Ohio Haitian Community should take legal action against these lies and hate speech that is causing violence against their Community. Because reckless speech like this should never go unchecked.
Agree 💯
right! That's what I keep thinking. Unfortunately, I assume they don't have the resources to do so? I also keep thinking can we all just sue Trump and Vance for Defamation lol?
If Alex Jones and FOX "News" has taught us anything, it's this.
Totally agree. The ACLU should get involved. 💙💙💙💙
Apparently he would have had to identify specific individuals for them to sue him for defamation. Slandering an entire community, even if it brings violence upon them, is something you can get away with. He's smart. He knows how to cover his own quivering ass.
When even one American - who has done nothing wrong - is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth - then all Americans are in peril.
Harry S Truman
I'm a conservative. I used to belong to the Republican party until it became the extremists' party that I no longer recognized. I'm voting for Democracy, for the constitution, and for the rule of law. This election is not about policies. This election is about preserving what this country was founded on!!! I'm voting for the ONLY CHOICE WE HAVE, KAMALA HARRIS.
💙🇺🇸💙 WELCOME!
Thank you! Hearing comments like this really gives me hope. I’m a nervous wreck right now.
Lifelong independent here. This isn't about left vs right, it's Democracy vs Fascism. Democracy is big enough for liberals and conservatives but we have to preserve democracy first. The great thing about democracy is that there's always another election.
"Republicans for Harris" is hopefully a wake-up call that the MAGA fascist GOP of Trump is Republican in name only! A lot of people vote by reflex because of the party name, not what it stands for.
Outstanding. Glad to hear it.
We need to get away from this insanity and bring some patriotism back - helping your neighbors regardless of their views.
This is America 🇺🇸
Freedom Liberty 🗽 and Justice ⚖️ for All People
I’m sorry but it’s extremely DISAPPOINTING that Gov. DeWine didn’t finish that interview with “TRUMP AND VANCE NEED TO STOP THESE LIES”?
He’s 77 what HARM would it cause his “future career” in politics. I don’t see him running for president as much as any other position in politics. It’s just sad.
It's similar to the cowardice of former Senator Rob Portman, who refused to convict Trump for his fraudulent electors and violent attack on the Capitol. It's all about saving their own ass, and if that means throwing the country under the bus, so be it.
Right?? Cmon man have some balls. Do the right thing.
Maybe some republicans in Ohio won’t vote for Trump because they realize now they are being lied to by Trump and Vance
The man accused of some non-violent “assassination attempt,” was merely observing a golf game, by trump’s own standards, “peacefully and patriotically.” He is now, again by trump’s standards, a “political prisoner.”
Exactly.
It's a sad day in America when a guy can't be out on the golf course with an AK-47...exercising his Second Amendment rights...without Republicans getting all uptight about it.
@@jspres86 lol
It’s ok to carry it everywhere, but not around Trump.
Dude was open carrying on public property... and came under fire without warning? Honestly the NRA should be defending this man. 🙃
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Martin Niemöller
First, trump came for the immigrants...
Leviticus 19:33-34
"You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself".
Idk what bible they read.
Thank you for posting.🙏🏽💙👏🏽
The same one Donald DIDN'T.
The Trump bible!!
As one who is not religious at all, I appreciate your post.
@TheGkmasta he has on more than one occasion floated the idea of getting rid of birthright citizenship, so that's fun
Here we go again . Trump is blaming Harris and Biden for this attempt on his life he’s such a liar vote Blue our country depends on it . 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
As he says,.... people say
It's hard to protect Trump, because it was Trump who removed the rule that crazy people should not be able to buy weapons of war. They want crazy people to be armed, because they know that there are far more crazy people on the right, who will take up arms against their next door neighbors, city officials, and law enforcement when Trump calls for violence against all enemies.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along. Republican on Republican crime. There’s nothing we can do to stop it.
Its all the leftists hate-filled rhetoric thats in question. You leftists just don't have a low you will go to anymore
@@dougmichaelroossien9115after decades of observing him, the People that SAY are never found..😮😅
My sympathy is with the US taxpayer footing the bill for the Secret Service protecting a tax-evading, treasonous insurrectionist, including playing golf.😂
@@maltlickytexas Yes I’m glad I don’t pay taxes anymore because I get Social Security and don’t make enough to pay taxes on
Exactly
Agreed!
don the con spent 21% of his time in office playing golf ... and charging for his resorts ...
Both would be assassins were not democrats therefore the GOP should be funding Trump's security. It's his fault he's in trouble.
JD Vance has to be the fastest, most radical and blatant example of how a normal person from extremely humble beginnings goes into politics, and becomes an absolute, unrecognizable monster.
He was always a monster. He was a clever one for a while.
The Governor went on to say this problem was caused by social media and never called out Trump or Vance just another spineless Republican.
Which someone on MSNBC called out very clearly. Was it Chris Hayes? Ayman Mohyeldin?
Right? Or wrong I guess. They understand it’s “the person not the gun” but not “it’s the person not the social media” ?
It's because Mike dewine is on the edge of being indicted for being a part of the first energy scandal. His hands are dirty and there's evidence everywhere that he was involved. He just hasn't been charged yet. He's covering his ass. Which All he does anymore.
The dishonesty from the right is heartbreaking. I will never forgive you, Rupert Murdoch.
It boggles the mind that he's still kicking.
You can add Lee Atwater to that list...and Karl Rove
@@luskvideoproductions869 Yup Atwater was another slimeball.
Amen
I think Atwater was sorry before he died young.
All this demonizing of vulnerable people makes this grandchild of immigrants really angry.
GOP has been demonizing the poor for decades.
As you should be. Your family is more American than Trump and Vance will ever be
The really hypocritical fact is that Trump is the child of an immigrant - his mother was born in Scotland. 🫤
I can’t comprehend a mindset that can so easily lie to millions of fellow Americans. We must stop Trump, Vance at the voting booth!
And the rest of the MAGA congress who are running.
How about the mindsets that readily believes these lies!!!
they lie for money. that is their mindset. it's not more complicated than that.
If Trump is re-elected and can't serve 4 years then Vance would be president. Vance, Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation in the WH. Now that's really frightening
Arrogance and disregard for the American people. Disgusting.😢
How does the Secret Service secure an 18 hole golf course at a Reasonable cost, just so this Ex-president can play a round of golf AND MAKE A TON OF MONEY WHILE HE IS BEING PROTECTED AT HIS OWN BUSINESS !!!! THIS IS RIDICULOUS ! How much money do we have to spend so he can make money off the American taxpayers? It's a reasonable question.
Indeed. There are so many high velocity guns in the US - I can’t imagine that the secret service can establish a secure perimeter of at least half a mile.
Pretty much every president and ex-president plays golf. The Sekrit Service does this all the time.
I was thinking the same. He can go pay for own amped up security at his private golf course! The difference about others who are protected don't run their mouths off daily provoking violence.
Blame the unhinged people who voted for Dumpy the first time. Dumpy was looking for life time protection and got it. That’s probably one of the reasons they want him gone .
Get out support for Collin Allred and get Ted Cruz out of the Senate!! And M.-Powel is in a statistical tie with Tim Scott in Florida. Come on folks!!!
Vance is an embarrassment.
He is a menace
What a non-surprise that he's another anti-American like Peter Thiel and Musk.
All of MAGA is an embarrassment.
How DARE you say Merry Christmas....
Worse than Trump.
I do not accept for a second that ANYONE called Vance's office to say anyone ATE THEIR PET
If anybody actually called, they were just repeating lies and rumors from the Internet or the bar. Calls letters and emails are usually logged by congressional offices so The Truth is Out There!
It’s certainly possible that some right-wing trolls, possibly even from out of state, did so. There is zero chance any actual constituents did so. Why would they call their Senator about a missing pet? They’d call the police.
I agree and even if someone did call doesn’t mean it’s true. Unfortunately it could be someone who is not well mentally or whatever. I guarantee if I called my governor and said something similar, it would be ignored with no response and not become headline news to the point where schools and hospitals are having to close down.
He certainly hasn’t produced an audio tape! You know that someone as paranoid as Vance records *everything*!
Given JD's inability to order donuts, I'm half convinced that there was a call... but it was coming from inside the office.
Vance being a U.S. Senator for Ohio, if there's any real problem, he should be using his position to solve/ameliorate it, not stir up racist hate.
Except he just made it up and said he would do so again.
In case you haven’t noticed, “solving” is not what MAGA does.
He is Trump's little doormat so he will continue to do these things. We have to vote BLUE to get rid of Trump and Vance, they are dangerous to our democracy.
Bill, I have to say that I am truly impressed with your objectivity about your past actions and attacks on liberals. I still consider myself a liberal and, as my bank account will attest, I'm certainly no liberal elite. Listening to you and the variety of hosts and guests on the Bullwork, tells me that despite our political differences we really have so much more in common than not... And it's not merely that we are for democracy and anti-Trump. I would actually like to see some permanent alliances created from our realizing our commonality and perhaps the Bullwork can be a part of that, if not now,, hopefully after the election. There's a lot of work to do building a sane democracy together. Let's do that together. Thanks to you both
Love your show Tim. TheBulwark is one of my daily listens.
In my father's 20 years in the Secret Service, most in White House details, not once did he have to secure a President or VP who were devout racists and regularly incited violence with their everyday rhetoric. As sad as I am that he's passed on, I'm glad he doesn't have to see what a dystopian reality the country has become.
We're not dystopian…..yet.
But Trump/Vance would speed us along that path 😱
I understand your conflicted feelings. I feel the same about my mom's 2013 death. Given her attitude before she died from her steady diet of hate and fear from Fox/Beck/Limbaugh, she would have been extreme MAGA. I would have had to go no contact. Due to my religious beliefs, I'd rather lose her to death than lose her to hate. 😿
@@Gretabpooh WOW. Speaks volumes.
@@TheDeadlyefx Maybe we have different notions of dystopia, but I think we are already in dystopian territory. That doesn’t mean it’s hopeless, though. If we have not descended too far into dystopia, there is a chance we can recover and return to normality. But if we are in it, that does not relieve us of our moral agency or the necessity that we fight for what is right. We are not excused from the challenges ahead because the world is going to hell.
@@Gretabpooh There wasn't the degree of hate in 2013. Nobody has been more hateful than Liberals have been towards Trump since 2016.
I am hoping that Vance and Jordan have finally gone too far and will not be reelected in Ohio. I have to hope that because I live in Ohio.
As an Ohioan I hope so too, but I'm not counting on it. 😢
I don't see how anyone with a brain at all could vote for Trump.
Well, there you go setting impossible conditions.
Welcome to Fox News and X country, where lies can be spread 24/4. You guys still don't get that your way of freedom of speech the way you understand it can lead you straight into autocracy..
@@krunk6962the lack of brain is a prerequisite. Can be swapped for spine. They are interchangeable in this example.
@@dinosaurandnapkin I'm at the point now that the people who I know and are still voting Trump are going into my gaslighting file. There is enough information now that it is clear the election should no longer be about policy, it is about keeping a crazy fool and his minions out of the White House. Therefore if someone is still voting for a group that divide the people, could bring down the Republic, they are an enemy of the State. They (who are voting for him) are also IMHO are dangerous people.
This has become my favorite politics channel over just a few months. The mix of Dem & Republican hosts and guests is my idea of what our country needs to be - again. I grew up in the '50s and '60s. I remember the '50s being very cooperative between parties, with the country being the first consideration. (McCarthy was seen as a charlatan, finally.) As the 60s wore on, this was destroyed by the Vietnam war and
look where we are now. So, this old Democrat watches The Bulwark to see intelligent, often humorous conversations between them, again. It's damned good and I thank you all! 💐
I'm stuck at the irony of media saying Congress needs to allocate more funding to the Secret Service so that they can better protect the man who is calling for a government shutdown.
Yeah Tim. In the mid 70's, it was an Asian Community consisting of Vietnamese, Laotian, and Hmong refugees. And THEY were the ones supposedly eating our cats. It was stupid back then and it's stupid now.
Yeah, I was going to say that in the 70s, it was Chinese restaurants using cat meat in the food they serve. Surprisingly, I heard this same lie repeated in South America just a few years ago. Racism knows no borders.
And it was disgusting to say about people that migrant to make a better life for themselves regardless of the circumstances that led to their relocation to the United States of America.
My grandmother came to Los Angeles from Japan when she was a baby during the 1900s. When the pet eating racial slur surfaced in the 70s, she told us about it being directed at her and her family in the 1910s. A Chinese friend of the family confirmed that the slur had been around for a long time and applied to Chinese immigrants and Chinese Americans.
I suspect the racist allegation goes back to the initial waves of Chinese immigration to the U.S. (during the California Gold Rush and the building of the railroad) and the “Yellow Peril” hysteria that followed. Trump, Vance, and maga are tapping into the same fears that spurred violence, discrimination, and racist laws against Chinese immigrants and Chinese Americans. Mobs burned down Chinese enclaves in West Coast cities, Chinese people were robbed, homes and businesses were looted, and hundreds of Chinese people were lynched or shot.
“Haitian immigrants eating pets” is a play in the white supremacist play book. It’s an opening gambit and a call to arms. Trump and Vance might not know all the history, but people like Stephen Miller and Laura Loomer do.
I must say that after I did landscaping in our house previously occupied by a large Vietnamese family, about 10 members, I found a big pit full of bones. Too many and different to be regular meat bones.
@@saskia315 Have you considered that the Vietnamese family may have been friends with a certain Kennedy family member,
who likes to eat road kill ?
This is a calculated, well planned strategy to get rid of a strong Haitian community who are legally working and filling jobs not filled by Americans. Even Gov De Wine acknowledged the need and usefulness of employing the Haitians. Thanks to JD Vance now the group is living in fear for their families.
@@TBD-wt2xq True, however he doesn’t care since they have special status and are not eligible to vote. I wonder what industry or business in Canton has engaged their services and if that in fact is the whole driving factor behind this entire hullabaloo. Is there any donor rivalry behind it or just plain racism ?
Trump is the richest person to ever be president of the united states, why exactly must our tax dollars pay to secure his entire golf course and resort?!? If he wants to make it secure he should pay for it (not that he pays for anything).
adjusted for inflation, washington was probably richer. sure, if you take trump at his word, he's worth twenty times what washington was, but surely no one outside his cult is taking him at his word?
Nor did he take a wage as president, you research how rich some of the insider trading that politicians carry out makes them, specifically Nancy pelvis and the Apple and google insider trading she did
@@dnash2131Felon DJT didn’t take a wage because he was being paid through foreign donations for favours! And, he is the only President not to reveal his tax records prior to (or after) taking office - as required!
My husband has never voted and when I asked him about watching the debate with me..he said “I doubt she is going to stand a chance”…but I challenged him to watch…and low and behold he saw her strength 😊and her dedication to the middle class and women’s reproductive rights and so much more from her plus my husband laughed out loud when she said world leaders know DT’s weakness for flattery and those leaders would “EAT HIM FOR LUNCH”….and he saw DT’s total lunacy! 💙🇺🇸🇺🇸💙 VOTE BLUE UP & DOWN THE BALLOT… IT WILL GIVE US A CHANCE TO WORK ON PROTECTING OUR DEMOCRACY FOR THE FUTURE! 💙🇺🇸🇺🇸💙
I voted for George W. Bush twice. Now I actually think he cares more about himself than our country. He needs to be out front AND VOCAL.
Bush is a coward. Any serious Republican that doesn’t step up is a spineless, reckless coward.
I AGREE. He’s a COWARD.
He wants his life peaceful - he doesn’t want MAGA angry with him
Perhaps he could parachute in to make a statement? That banner must still be around somewhere…the military standing to attention might be a problem. Or, he could just make a statement.
Maga is just disgusting!! 🤢🤮
VOTE THEM OUT!! VOTE KAMALA!!!
REGISTER! DONATE! SPREAD DEMOCRACY!
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You're democracy is dead a long time ago. Trump/Vance 2024
Ps..she stole the nomination from Biden…that’s the most un-democratic thing a person could do.
@@antipop885 he blames everyone for everything that happens badly but himself!!!
@@antipop885 if anyone is even interested Ukraine with the help of allies has pretty much destroyed Putins world easily Sweden and Poland helped immensely
How does Vance's Indian wife put up with that crap? And the comment by Laura Loomer about curry and call centres? Baffling how anyone could vote for him. I was so p!ssed off about what Vance did in Ohio that I donated to Ohio Democrat Senator Sherrod Brown's campaign. Vote blue Harris/Walz 💙💙💙💙
Maybe she secretly votes blue ?!
Because she probably knows the long game of removing trump and JD becomes president
And where is she? I haven’t seen her out on the campaign trail supporting her husband. Last time I saw her was that atrocious interview where she looked like a hostage.
The Haitian immigrants have been coming to America since before the 1950s if not before. I grew up and attended school with them. They have always been hard working and law abiding citizens. They do not eat cats and dogs.
I'm 45.
I remember racist comments from aunts and uncles of mine talking about Asian immigrants from Vietnam and Laos stealing pets and eating them.
It was disgusting then and is disgusting now. 27:02
How was Dana so unprepared to respond to Vance's attack on her? That crap should have been shut down immediately, even if it required her to tell him to shut up and have his mic cut.
Dana Bash is totally ineffective as an interviewer. My guess is she's afraid. She's dropped the perverbial ball before! She's been described as a no nonsense anchor as has been Jake Tapper, but I beg to differ! Totally disappointing.
@@Deborah-u5kI really don’t like either one of them. I’m a Rachel Maddox/MSNBC fan. Rachel graduated from the same high school I did (15 years later, lol.)
I never in my lifetime thought I would agree with Bill Kristol so much. 🤦🏻
It's a little disorienting how wild the right wing has become so that traditional conservatives are now their opposition...
@@carriteIt blows my mind. It makes me wonder how much my political views are changing or the dynamics of the nation driven by the heinous nature of the electoral college is bringing this on because of the constant losing by the right.
@@steve-real I know the world is upside down isn’t it
@@cindyabraham5503 We could lose the republic to Trump in 50 days. Then suffer from a dictatorship for the next 500 years. The upside down world is collapsing into reality. I hope it falls on our side.
Jim Jordan has jumped on the bandwagon with JD. Despicable
Look who you’re talking about! 😠
But hardly surprising. There’s never been a false claim or conspiracy that he didn’t get behind.
there's a surprise!!!! Not!
Jim Jordan, (Kyle Koehler, who is FROM Springfield), and (Yost, they attorney general no less) too!
Gym Jordan should be in jail but Garland is too weak what a disappointment he turned out to be for America.
He has a former record (34 felony counts) and is a disturbed individual. Oh, you’re talking about the shooter, not Trump?
A CURRENT RECORD!
I thought same thing!
"How could this be a competitive race?" That's a question I ask myself every single day.... I just don't understand it.
This is the hardest part for me. Distressing 😢
There are only two reasons Shady Vance is the VP nom. He comes with financial backing and he's all in to do what Pence wouldn't.
“It’s just a fact of life.”
“We must move on.”
To be fair, Dana let Vance bully her into letting him continue to speak. She should have cut him off by telling him to name names or shut up.
She should have shut down the interview altogether.
@@JudyMascaro ... Might be a MAGA in hiding? Like John Roberts and his Ex-wife were CNN Reporters ─ then suddenly left and became Hard-core Fox Media!
Regards,
Absolutely shut down the interview. These racist interviews are endangering people. Vance and trump have been pressed to disavow their statements, bomb threats, but they continue to fan the flames. It is irresponsible at this point to give them ANY platform.
You mean Dana "Right wing framing" Bash?
You shouldn’t be surprised.
That was an embarrassing performance from her. She looked out of it or scared as if she was afraid of losing her access. CNN always bends over backwards to be overly generous towards the right to avoid accusations of liberal bias. However, when one side appreciates facts and the other denies facts, the news should have a bias towards the truth NOT towards faux “neutrality”
They used to say they are presenting, 'alternative facts' instead of admitting they're lying. Now according to JD 'creating' stories is the new way of lying.
"create stories" can be taken two ways. A story can either be made up out of thin air, or, a series of smaller events or incidences can be made into a larger narrative on a bigger stage or platform. the latter is what is happening, not the first. Vance is creating a narrative surrounding incidental reports. there are witnesses to these duck killings. cats have been found mutilated in Houston even, not just in Ohio.
If Harris said she wouldn't do a second debate, Trump would say it was proof she lost the previous one. He would also call her a coward.
Dumpy will be remembered as the XPresident biggest Liar!!
Uhh. I think the secret service did their job here. They can’t stop people from WANTING to do this. But they did stop people FROM doing it.
It's ironic that the man who encourages violence is now the target.
“He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword!” Violence begets violence…you reap what you sow..Yep, it was inevitable!
Chickens come home to roost.
It's called KARMA!
The Tao de Ching says"Those who create fear in others can not help but, feel fear themselves." it's about time Trump got KARMA.
Cause and effect. Pretty basic non controversial phenomenon.
Always enjoy Mondays with Mr Kristol. I found his article today insightful and it hit the bullseye of the issue, the promotion of hate and fear mongering.
Yes, but his inability to understand/acknowledge the deep well of racism/othering in the GOP is troubling...if you don't accept this reality, you can't rebuild a better party.
@@hw-rg7gn He helped build the monster by giving the veneer of sensibility for their extremist views.
And I will never forgive him for it.
No more insanity, make America trumpless 💙💙💙💙💛💛💛💛
We're still stuck with p2025. Once heritage foundation puts that in place, they wont need him anymore.
Proud Haitian American here. 🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹
This Presidential race between a Prosecutor & a Seditionist is close because American Ignorance is one concussion away from fully-realizing Idiocracy.
she will turn to a PERSECUTOR real fast. she will be America's Lenin. Trump must win to stave this off.
Poetry…
The Secret Service is forced to use limited resources just so baby trump can play golf on a regular basis. What a brat!!
Think about this...trump's protection is costing taxpayers millions of dollars! So, technically, trump and his rich buddies aren't paying for his protection because trump gave them massive tax cuts.
And poor Americans must pay for Dumpy’s safety ! Sad joke !
Tim you are a fucking hero! Thanks for being the voice!
❤ Tim.
Vance is very rude. He told Dana to shut up.
45 and his campaign will use anything, ANYTHING, to get the conversation about him. Lies, real threats, whatever, to put his name in everyone's mouth. PLEASE, limit the amount of time dedicated to covering him or Vance.
Ohio should immediately force the resignation of its senator for endangering the lives of his own constituents -- Haitians who were recruited to revitalize the economy of a dying town, who pay taxes, work hard, and who filled the labor shortage, willing to work in hard manual labor that their white neighbors were unwilling to do.
Every answer on the immigrants should be, “If you really cared, why kill the bill that would fix it?”
Every reporter, surrogate, podcaster should use it and shut them the hell up. DO SOMETHING means we all need to do something to stop their talking points.
He did interviews because he can’t get a crowd. Let them find a new way,we’re all sick of this bullshit.
Badass 💙 all the way.
RIGHT ON!!! Every Single Immigration Comment by Trump/Vance (or any other Republican) SHOULD be met with that question!
the bill wouldn't fix it. it would still let people in. no compromises. open border or closed border THAT'S IT.
I agree but dems said it was a start. A step is a step and they weren’t giving up more then that step. You have to start somewhere. It’s ridiculous that two parties can’t agree on anything but it was a step.
Red Hats are the new White Sheets. It’s just unambiguous at this point.
If he’s a billionaire. Why doesn’t he just hire a bunch of private security..? Cause he’s not a billionaire. He’s just a liar.
Just think...the Secret Service protection agents would have to go to prison with trump. That's insane! I certainly believe a traitor to this country should never be given Secret Service protection!
Trump expects us, the taxpayers, to pay tens of thousands of dollars per day for his security.
He has always used other peoples money.
@@-Gramps and he will get what he wants. He always does. I don’t know how he does it. If I believed, I’d say it was a deal for his soul. But it’s something.
Tim, you and George Conway are my go-to -guys that comfort me in this madness. Thank you also for your sense of humor, because it's so insane, that you either gotta laugh or cry.
Red flag laws would have stopped him from having access to a gun.
They actually have red flag laws in Florida, surprisingly. But, he could still buy it at a gun show from a private dealer.
Him who? Vance or DonOLD, or both?
@@lnbjr7 I was thinking of the alleged perpetrator
The accused man seems to have been 'disappointed' with trump-although he did at some point vote for him---I ADMIT, that at first, BEFORE who was accused was ID, I was PRAYING it was'nt a man of color--because it would have caused a racist basis for trump to campaign on. I was releived it was another white man. I AM WHITE, 74, and just want this BS OVERWITH. Vote blue PLEASE.
Don’t give Trump any ideas for the next set up. Please 🙏🏼
Yes please vote for Democracy Harris for an honest decent leader for President!
That Vance is close to Don Jr. tells us all we need to know about him.
Why is there not an uproar in Ohio over the dangerous behavior of their senator? I know Ohio is red but the governor seemed a reasonable Republican.
I feel so bad or the Hatains I pray they will be safe . Telling those lies puts them in jeopardy from the Trump crazies. Stop the lies!!
A “reasonable Republican” would not endorse or vote for Donald Trump
But it seems like there are plenty of Ohio residents who are rightly pissed, giving press conferences and going to Haitian-owned business in Springfield to show their support & solidarity. Unfortunately, we still have a large group of people who believe everything they read on Facebook. Then they retell it to their friends or even to journalists as “I heard xyz” when really they just mean they read it on Facebook lmao
Seemed like is the question?
Has anyone suggested to Vance that he could focus on ways to alleviate the actual issues in Ohio🤷♀️
It's amazing, you never hear about the culture change when white euopeans migrate here. It's only black and brown people who affects the culture. I wonder why that is?
@@denvanesbeth760 I don’t wonder at all and I doubt you do either.
@cindyabraham5503 yeah I don't. I know why.
The new Ohio businesses said they asked the Haitians to come and fill jobs that were not able to be filled
The businesses said they are very happy with these
Immigrants
I think JD was the one with bruised knees to work his way up in Silicon Valley at such an astonishing rate and being stupid
Peter Thiel would know.
The MAGAt version of Affirmative Action.
Tim Miller thank you for bringing up important issues. Listening to you speak is comforting during these crazy times.
Let's just hope that Vance doesn't change his tune. I believe that he and Trump are self-destructing. Yes, their supporters are bound more strongly, but others are repelled just as strongly. And yes! Harris should do interviews and events around the arts. Trump never talks about art, or music, it theater, or movies or anything that normal people like.
I live in Utah and there is a food truck serving Haitian food : his business is now a forth of what it was before JD Vance and Trump's untrue statements!
That sucks! I hate how much real people are suffering in so many ways from their vile lies.
@@clwilson24 100% correct.
It's tragic the chaos Trump has caused over the years. Hopefully he's defeated in November and the legal cases against him can no longer be delayed.Enough of this turd...banish him to prison already.
Maybe they were serving cats.
@@James-hd4ms No they weren't!
So next time Fluffy goes missing, the correct step is for my first call to be to my US State Senator? Did not know that.
If this guy had been a Ukrainian "operative" he would have been successful.
These people literally call themselves “Christians”. They’re knowingly falsely targeting legal asylum seekers who escaped a wore torn country, came and saved a failing town in America. How anyone can look at them and say, “these are my guys” is mind boggling to me.
You say Trump/Vance is an extreme ticket and they are, but when undecided voters are polled, they tend to think the Harris/Walz ticket is too liberal, but fewer think T/V is too conservative. So frustrating!
well walz loves communist china, so they're not wrong.
“I think our people hate the right people.” Wow. Vance has very much decided to run as the candidate from 4chan.
He actually said that?!? Wow!
Even before he blurted out that he created the story, he was hinting at the same. In multiple interviews, he said things like, "we'll eventually figure out whether this is completely or partially true, or not true at all. But it won't matter how true it is, because we will have brought attention to this issue." He tweeted out the same: "this might not be correct. But keep the cat memes flowing anyway."
The urban legend is actually older than that, people were talking about Chinese immigrants putting cats in the food at Chinese restaurants back in the 60s. I'd bet you could find stories like this going back to the first time a white person met a non-white person.
Supposedly it was applied to Irish immigrants as well
We knew that in many Countries in Asia, they did have menus' with Pets... And they are much less now... And that was long time ago... Hoped all Nations/Cultures would see eating certain Animals considered "Un-civilized.
Regards,
I remember the Chairman Meow's chicken jokes.
I am Australian 77 and I remember it here too.
@@carmencajayon937 Your word choice is a bit off, you don't get to define what's 'uncivilized' when talking about different cultures and their food choices. There probably are some values/morals every human society agrees on, but which animals you can eat (or if you should eat any of them at all) is not one of them. You're not more 'civilized' just because eating rabbits (which btw are pets in many families) is acceptable, but not eating cats.
Great work Tim and Bill. Thank you.
Put Walz on New Heights with the Kelce Brothers. One degree of separation to Taylor Swift. He could talk football and politics.
Silly that I should have to say this, but I know some Haitians in Florida, and they are wonderful people, here only because of the disastrous conditions in poor Haiti.
Dana Bash is a terrible reporter. SHe never challenges him to produce these people. She just lets him talk. THat would never happen in Australia.
Australian journalists didn't fact check John Howard or Tony Abbott or the LNP for years as they spewed lies - especially about immigration and asylum seekers - "Children Overboard" and Siv-X. Even our ABC capitulated as Howard began to dismantle the funding and install lackeys on the board. The character of our nation has been changed for the worse because of them and the lack of direct scrutiny, led by Murdoch's domination of our media - made possible by, to their unadmitted shame, the Labor Party.
American interviewers are weak. See the Australian do the Axios interview of Trump or the Newagents discussion of the difference between the way British politicians are interviewed (look up Fern Briton v Tony Blair for a tame one)
She absolutely DID challenge him to do exactly that. And confronted him with facts, with what the DNR and the mayor were saying, that that there were no credible reports, that the immigrants were completely legal, etc. Vance just told her to "Shut up" (yes, that's a quote), doubled down and overtalked her.
@@windycityliz7711 really challenge him. not just let him talk. actually stop him from talking until he answer the question
@@rickjust And that has EVER worked when exactly? With ANY political 'guest'?
Hello from Springfield MO
Hope maga knows geography!
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Just subscribed to Apple TV again just to watch the new series of Slow Horses. Kills me having to wait a week for a new episode!
Is there going to be repercussions from his behavior. It would have been if this was Harris or Walz. If I was in the Haitian population in Ohio, I would definitely file a lawsuit. News media is not talking about this at all. Shout out to Meidas Touch❤
Are Donald Trump and J.D.Vance, their wives and their relatives, are they all Native Americans?
That's incredible. 🇺🇸
Who are they to talk about anyone else coming here?
Trump's wife was an illegal immigrant when her visa expired and she stayed in the US. Trump bought her an Einstein visa which are reserved for people who are outstanding in their fields - authors, athletes, peacemakers - not for someone who is a future wife of Trump
@@prajnachan333 Because they’re the elites and don’t you know they’re better than everybody else
their family members weren't flown in on purpose to get on the government doll and take ducks from public parks in front of horrified witnesses.
Also, I’m offended by a man who takes advantage of the Secret Service sworn to protect him. I doubt he would feel so confident if he didn’t have them there to protect him.
Make America GREATER. RALLY round that. 🎉
every migrant group in history has faced that malicious bs
Vance is psychologically disturbed as well. Ohio, vote him out when you have the opportunity. ~Harris - Walz 2024
I sort of understand George W.'s desire to stay out of the Trump shooting gallery, but for God's sake the country's in a crisis and he's sitting on his back porch whittling.
Never expected to say this…I miss Barbara Bush. She would never have hesitated.
Donate to Second Harvest Food Bank in Springfield Ohio and give them the constructive help and kindness those two buffoons do not believe they deserve
They happily accept pets
No but they do accept checks online payments end Bitcoin I believe @@James-hd4ms
no free lunch. pay your way. it's because of freebies that stuff costs so much. as a taxpayer, I"m sick of taking care of everyone else. goddamn socialist idealism.
It's hard to understand why some voters at this point are undecided.
Worked in public high schools for 36 years. The kids would always say, “Talk shit, get hit.” Trump always talks much of that. Does he invite that? The irony is the hardcore gun rights advocates, those wearing lapel pins of military firearms, will be the ones yelling about these incidents the loudest.
Why on earth is Bush supporting McCormick but won’t weigh in about Vance’s Haitian nonsense? No shame.