Climate Change and Conservatism
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2023
- In this episode, @TraeCrowderLiberalRedneck looks at why the South, a region being hit hard by climate change, seems to deny it the most. And the reasons aren't as simple as they seem at first glance.
The American South is a complicated place, and we know a lot less about it than we think we do. And many things about the South that seem to make no sense are less confounding in context. The reality is the history of many Southern things has been manipulated, hidden, or just plain ignored. Trae Crowder guides us through the pride points, failures, and contradictions in "Southin' Off."
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It's similar here: Farmers should belong to the first who notice the changing weather patterns, but most of them still hate environmentalists.
A bit counterintuitive, isn't it? 😒
Because it interferes with their short term goals. While being in the long term best interest of themselves and their children
to be fair, many people spearheading environmental causes don't make themselves likeable or try and understand the barriers other people may face with mitigating climate change. The promoting of climate change action has been a huge failure and the propagators can only blame themselves
@@jamesricker3997 Maslow;s Hierarchy of Needs, people won't think about their long term goals until their short term security is met. You're not going to be worrying about spending more on environmentally friendly crops if you are barely making ends meet. You're not going to spend time lobbying your local politician if you're spending all your time and energy surviving. It's why people in poorer areas tend to make unhealthy decisions, even if they know they are bad in the long term, because they cater to their short term needs
As long as they have govt price supports, why care?
As a Texan who has grown their own food most of my life. My entire garden scorched this year, and the corn crops around here did as well, luckily for the corn, it can be turned into chicken feed, but it sucks because it's not as profitable and it's going to cause a shortage. I like my grilled corn ok. Most of the farmers around here completely understand that climate change is real, the problem is even though we do voice our frustration, gerrymandering keeps our voices from being heard. Help Texans end gerrymandering!
I’m in my sixties and I remember before the current political polarization and narrative took hold when hunters were among the most vehement conservationists who’d turn on a hunter who hunted out of season and often helped regulate advance the number of recognized endangered species. Then everything changed as quickly as our political philosophy changed.
"hunters were among the most vehement conservationists" Yep, I remember those days too. Back when the NRA was only interested in promoting shooting sports.
I'm on lake Erie and the charter boat captains are fighting back now. All the agricultural runoff is amplifying algae blooms which hurts their business.
I really love seeing outspoken southerners speaking intelligently about topics like this. Especially when we don’t try to hide our accents or colloquialisms! Thanks for givin us yee haw types a good name, we’re not all the way we are portrayed in the media. But I do think we can all agree that tubing is great lol
Accents and colloquialisms mean nothing in the larger context. Trea has an MBA and is as intelligent as anyone. He’s just not pedantic.
I'm a yankee from Vermont and I've lived in evry part of the u.s. Being dumb as a box of rocks has no relationship to your geographical location. There are people so stupid they couldn't think their way out of a paper bag in every state. Never understood where the ignorant southern hick stereotype came from.
Tubing? Nah… I’ll pass. Not a big fan of brain-eating amoebae.
"Because it is a mobile home" kinda got me though
Tornadoes and hurricanes put the mobile in Mobile Home.
@@oldsesalt8496sssshhhhh. Don't tell mine in Florida 🤫
Yeah, that cracked me up too!😆
Me too!
Kept waiting to hear a shoutout for the SOUTHERN ENVIRONMENTAL LAW CENTER. They have been fighting for environmental protection, land conservation, and climate change mitigation in the South for going on 40 years. And their biggest successes have been built on coalitions of people who have a healthy environment as a common priority.
I had spent my life in New Jersey but went down into Tennessee back in the 1970s. It was absolutely beautiful what Mother Nature has provided us but I was totally disgusted by all the garbage on the ground by a beautiful stream! 50 years have passed, and nothing's changed!
Tree is doing the whole country a service. Letting other regions know the south's view on climate change isn't monolithic. Giving voice and face to those living in the south of a more informed person than those in positions of power.
*Trae
How could liberal environmentalists go about better reaching out to conservative southerners who are in fact concerned? If we’re going to tackle this problem we need to do it together.
Seems like fixing the problem without their help is what we gotta do, eventually everyone will be on board claiming they were always on board….
And it needs to start yesterday!
What problem? People illegally squatting on land? People attacking others while they are driving to work?
Not sure why this video was recommended to an Aussie living out in the bush, but I fully relate to climate disasters not being taken seriously, you'd think that having the worst bushfires and floods in history every ten years would be enough but nope.
Were you around 1000 years ago to see a difference?
Climate change is nonsense.
My guess, it's because you live in the bush.
The rural south is our version of 'the bush'.
@@rittherugger160 I live on the Southside of Chicago. Is that what you consider "rural" princess?
@@imperialmotoring3789 Rural princess?
Don't know what that is but I do know that the Southside of Chicago is not part of the rural South.
@@imperialmotoring3789it doesn’t mean you didn’t show yourself to be a willfully ignorant climate denier elsewhere in the comments.
Since 2020 even the hard core climate change deniers are at least tacitly admitting that the climate is changing - it seriously took two major hurricanes hitting my area within 43 days (a little over 1 month a part) for most people to take notice. This summer as well, the heat has been lethal, people are literally saying things like "i know i ain't crazy, it ain't ever been this hot before"
Well sure, the climate has changed over the last 20 million years, and it still changing.
Nothing to do with man though. You have been had.
@@imperialmotoring3789 honey, I ain't the one who's been had if you're spitting things like that.
@@PMickeyDee Using natural fuels, like coal and oil and gas, are not affecting the weather sweetie.
Climate change is a hoax perpetuated by governments that want to seize power and take away our freedoms.
@@imperialmotoring3789 ok dunning Kruger
@@theredbat5323 Ok dunning biden.
Born and raised in FL...the things I hear from what seemed to be normal, rational people! Good show, Trae.
I heard a guy say: Yeah, the climate is changing. But that doesn't mean its climate change. 😂😂
Yeeesh
Chem trails (democrats controlling the weather)
From Alabama, here. Roll Tide, first and foremost. Never have i ever seen a group of people, especially from the South, be so adamant to destroy the very thing they love. It's like almost the entirety of the South and majority of the Midwest wants to be MCU Thanos and the planet is MCU Gamora.
Why am I just now finding this channel? Gotta watch all the videos I missed. Thank you for this.
Tubing is the best. Planet poisoning from agrichemicals to fracking, not so much. Thanks, Trae, as always for the work you are doing. We all love you like chickens.
I’m so excited about these new videos of yours. Awesome 😎 keep up the good work Trae and friends
Thank you Trae for keeping this conversation going.
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The whole climate "argument" is based to the climate being a complex system. You can't just explain and prove every mechanic involed in two minutes, so the impatient or outright dumb will give up well before you get done.
Here is the other thing about complex systems, there are multiple redundencies. The climate can take a heck of a beating. But tough isn't invulnerable.
Neglect and abuse these systems long enough and they WILL fail.
They are failing and people who studied this for their entire lives have been ringing that alarm bell and screaming for years. The responce of the dumb is "well they keep crying and I keep living".
Its like refusing to move out of a house condemed by a surveyer, doing no maintanence and being 100% sure that because it didn't fall down yet it won't fall down. Then tapping the walls with a hammer to prove how brave they are and how sturdy the house is...
The kids in my family here in Germany have been asking why some adults do not see what is going on when they can. Not very nice talks to have.
We were ALSO taught to be stewards of the earth. What happened to that instruction?
there's a big difference between the biblical jesus and the republican jesus...
I am so glad you have been able to broadcast messages like this that are informative. You are from where we are from so understanding coming from you makes it easier and more likely we understand
This hits hard!
Thanks for posting these earlier pieces, as I just discovered your work just under 2 years ago.
Thank you for explaining this to me. I was wondering. 😊
dead-on as usual Trae.......and Tubin' is one of the most awesome things that I haven't done for a long time.
Im from Oklahoma and I know a lot of people here are freaked out about climate change.
Who was that woman? The combo of Trae and that woman is a solid! Both well spoken and great contrast between them 🗽🇺🇸👍🏽
There is one clear path to people globally being more environmentally minded: make them less poor quickly and facilitate their capacity to stay out of poverty. This was recommended to the U.N. committee back in 2008, and has been all but ignored. Poor people do not care about ecological interests, they can't.
This.
@@elenachristian9860Shout Out From Texas Trae!!
Keep Sticking It To Them Trae!!😊😅😂❤
one correction, God said He wouldn't destroy the earth again, with WATER. He did say next time, it'll be fire
That God sounds like a real sadistic A-hole.
Just found this channel. Good stuff, Trae.
Hey brother, I really love ur content. Information n comedy. Rya reaching the people who really need to hear it though??
Keep it up, too many schmucks can get in the way.
This is a very good video and I’m glad you did it. But there is hope. That trend does seem to be slowly changing. In Texas rural homeowners are standing up to the gas companies that want to run pipelines through their town by teaming up with environmental groups.
And one more thing. I recently took a trip to Idaho and Wyoming. Two very oil dependent states. What did I see? Solar panels on houses and electric vehicles on the road. There is hope.
Loving this channel Trey ❤
I wonder if the "South" realizes or knows that July was the hottest on record. EVER.
The point he's making in the video is that, contrary to popular belief based on the most vocal of Southerners, the majority of them in fact are quite concerned about climate change.
Awwww, tubing. What a pasttime. And the crippling sunburn that keeps you outa work for a couple days. Sweeeet!
Living in TN, I see things occasionally talking about protecting wetlands and forests.
Unfortunately it's usually in the form of "If we destroy the environment, there won't be any animals left to shoot".
So yeah, take that for what you want I guess. I suppose that's progress...
God also says verbatim,"I will destroy mankind for how they have destroyed the earth".GOOD stuff Trae.
Let me add to the water crisis for you. Most communities have combined sewage/stormwater systems that are often over inundated with water from rain events causing these systems to pump out untreated or partially treated effluent into our waterways. Sometimes the bacteria counts are massively past what would close a beach. Additionally, there's an increase in phosphorus in many waterways from agriculture that cause increasingly devastating algal blooms.
The UK has a serious problem with wastewater being dumped into their reverse, lakes, and the sea. And the companies are allowed to do it because the Tories (who are in charge) let them. It's so damn awful.
There are many conservative christians who believe that the severe weather events we are experiencing today are signs of the end times. They not only don't believe that anything can done to mitigate these events (it being attributed to god's will) they actually welcome them.
Those are the people that I find the most terrifying.
Severe weather events.....used to just call it weather.
Dude you are soooo gooood. Keep it up
Most excellent!
For any climate deniers, I switch the vocabulary I use. Instead of climate change I just say pollution or effects of pollution. It isn’t the same thing I know but people are more willing to come to the changes to help stop CC if it is dressed up as stopping pollution.
Love the political topic turn at the end. Our political partiscipation is imperitive! Now to find candidates that will declare a National Climate Emergency, so we can adress this problem and nip it in the bud.
I appreciate you calling out the anti-environmentalism of the corporations!
Is this a new Trae channel? An old Trae channel i never saw? SKEW!
I remember when we started catching fish with spots on their belly! The DNR just said in basic terms that it was no big deal you just shouldn't eat alot of them! SMH!
Then that's it start from there look into why there's spots on your fish and make people who pollute waters responsible
Really it's the outdoor-living, rural, small-town, outdoor-working, farmers, and those in the South that have the most to lose with climate change, and will be most directly aware of its impacts. City folk are (literally) insulated from it, spending most of their time indoors, getting their food from supermarkets, and so on. Verses the trades-workers who work outdoors, in conditions getting hotter, making their jobs more unpleasant or even unsafe. Those in places that were already hot that will become unbearable, perhaps literally unlivable. Farmers who will have less consistent harvests, more frequent crop failures due to floods, drought, heat, and other changed weather patterns. Those who hunt and fish. So it doesn't surprise me that they're well aware of and worried about it.
In the UK, conservative rural folk are starting to realise that they share a surprising number of values with Green Party candidates.
Thank you for this service.
I live in Coastal Georgia so there is lots of environmental concerns we have 6 super sites( industrial pollution) but we are a very Red area electing pro business anti environmental laws. It makes no sense when they post pictures of their catch or a pretty sunset over the marsh. They vote against what they claim to love.
This would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
Thanks!
I know of families from Texas and other S states that are sick of the heat and sick of the BS and have moved to an island in lake Michigan.
"The water is going to be higher than their cholesterol, but just barely." this had me IN TEARS 😂
This is anecdotally obviously, but I have relatives that we need Texas so they know the space on where you go. But most Texans that I meet are either in different about certain social issues or actually you're really liberal about them. Every time I ask them well, if there's so many people in Texas who feel this way, then why isn't the state like mixed or blue and the answer is simple. It's the reason why every Texan no matter their political background hates the bushes which is that the state is literally and oligarchy totalitarian government. Like I've been repeatedly explained that despite Texas having extremely liberal weapon laws, the entire state's population armed late all the candle to the national guard, which by both socially and legally in their system supports only the rich people in power in that state. Meaning if shit went down, the national guard would guard Ted Cruz and would immediately start shooting bombing its own statesman. This is why they can't win because these rich assholes essentially have a chokehold on the state and one of my favorite quotes from a Texas friend of mine says that if you are an American but you can't visit the UK, go visit Texas. We have the same royalty system.
Good point the southern lady made. And ❤ Trae thanks
Love your King of the Hill reference btw. Very good.
It’s funny how they want to conserve everything but the planet they live on
Just their money and iron-clad grip on power
Is it a good idea if you to establish your own secondary water filtration system
Southern people like to point out all the "good ones" yet they won't hold all their conservative neighbors accountable. Call them out, quit hanging out and put some social consequences on the conservatives
The "powers that are", fill our heads with nonsense and we buy it because we think they know everything. Their first trick is to always redefine a term so that it puts down someone. We fall for it almost every time.
God said HE wouldn't distroy the earth. He didn't say he'd stop us from destroying it.
The Earth doesnt care either. The Earth will do Earth. Meanwhile our grandchildren will die when the Earth changes its climate, an action of time.
All that CO2 was in the atmosphere at once before. Who is to say it shouldn't be again?
I set the lawn on fire playing with sparklers when I was 8.
Straight talkin' suthern boy. Thats what we all need hear'in the South. Scheming, Lying, Bought suthern Politicians got to go...all Politicians that're like this GOT TO GO....
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Blessed Be...
*The truth is that we all depend on nature for food, shelter, and recreation!*
Thanks for giving the southern accent a good name, Trae.
That was great ❤
Damn Trae, you're young here!
Great vid, Trae, (American) auto manufacturers have stopped building economical cars, but offer 10 different quad cab 4x4 trucks, and have convinced men that "being a man" is driving a truck that gets 12 mpg everywhere, even though you *don't NEED one for anything* a Prius will get you from point A, to point B, and get 50 mpg, but it ain't COOL !!!
I’d like to see msm broadcast this clip on prime time.
Great work at getting the point across.
Love your content and self-deprecating humo(u)r. You've earned yourself a Yankie Lincolnite subscriber, sir. CHECKMATE.
When it comes to the climate we are not just shitting in our own back yard. We are shitting on the family dining table with bad diarrhea whilst we are eating breakfast, lunch and dinner.
So true.
In the Bible is says we are stewards of the earth.
We are tasked with protecting his creation.
Truth.
Thanks trae , yiu tell it like it is
Trae Crowder is a national treasure ❤
I have been waiting for someone to explain this in detail, well this confirms it to a T.
One would think that if an all powerful being gave us the gift of the Earth, we should AT LEAST be trying to take care of it!
The right, those most likely to worship such a deity, seem to care the least about the way we treat our planet.
“Hot enough for you Roll Tide” 😂😂
Tubing a southern thing, eh? It's spreading.
Global warming is making more areas to tube
Idk if it's a southern thing or just something that's everywhere, but I do remember as a kid tubing on actual inner tube (like in a tire) instead of a specifically made recreational tube.
Im bottom left corner on the poli map lol but regardless you have my respect. That last line is pretty undeniable.
Do any southerners watch this channel?
i currently live in the south not sure if i count but watching him hasnt changed my mind on anything he doesnt really provide evidence for his claims or make convincing arguments
I am a liberal from Alabama-born and raised. I love Trae Crowder (even if he is a Tennessee fan😂)! Roll Tide!!
Trae the funny bone Bae. Duh. Coming to you from Fort Neoheroka, Greene Co NC.
Country music sings about the beauty of rual America, but they allow it to be destoyed
I hope you are successful in educating your people !
Toobin'. 'Nuff said.
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Education is not as expensive as ignorance 🤙
I've always said it makes sense for conservatives to want to, you know, conserve the environment. Doesn't it say somewhere in the Bible "I leave you this Earth, take good care of it" or something of the sort?
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Sadly we Yanks just say climate change is too expensive to fight and isn’t our problem anyway. The older folks that can only see the world through dollar signs want to take care of us by taking care of the economy. They don’t realize how much climate change will screw over the economy.
Ive had some good conversations with conservatives by starting off accepting they dont believe in climate change but then discussing superfund sites and the rivers where you shouldnt eat the fish. That gets through.
Liberals also need to follow the science and not just follow the trends. If your electric car can drive cross country on a charge and outrun a supercar, dont pretend youre out ther saving the planet.
This is confusing because they keep voting for the people that don't believe in climate change. So doesn't that mean on some level they are endorsing the politicians who don't believe?
2:20 The explanation here is simple: religion’s main purpose is to reduce or eliminate humans’ fear of death. Once you’ve disarmed a creature’s survival instinct, you can convince them to espouse any ideology you want, whether it threatens their very existence or not.
The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting, it never even mentions hunting, it says "....the security of a free state...." it's about fighting a tyrannical government, it was written by revolutionary colonists fighting a civil war and they specifically stated that Americans have a duty to resist a tyrannical government and they ment armed resistance.
Red cups. Thank you.
There it is again that funny feeeling
IMO the nonquantitative discussion of pollution is simplistic bordering on counterproductive. Pollution is a chemical problem. Discussing it requires the language of chemistry.
...not to mention Coal Rollers!
Mic drop
Put trae in your thumbnails to increase engagement
The earth is warming! Think about this! one flat square acre with on inch of rainfall equals twenty seven thousand one hundred fifty gallons of water if you had a thousand acres feeding one little dry branch and it rained say thirty inches of rain in a year how much water would that be if you put detention ponds and reservoirs in that dry branch you could catch all that water an let it soak in .except We're the water was full of nitrates herbicides and insecticides, everything the field need for production of food but instead we got farmers pumping fresh drinking water out of under ground aquafiers on to that field to irrigate with , but where the water is clean let it be caught in the detention pond so that it will fill the aquafiers back up