Nonsense. We have known exactly what kind of actions we can take to mitigate or reverse the damage. The problem is greed. The biggest corporate contributors to this problem would rather make more money now at everyone's expense now and later. This is how all mega-wealthy people think. With more money they think the problem wont affect them or their children, and they're right that they'll be in the best position to survive but their greed makes them blind to the realization that they will still need everyone else around them to make being "rich" mean anything. We could have started making progress towards these problems decades ago, but instead they've sowed doubt, discontent, and apathy.
@@JNArnold you're not wrong that greed is a large factor in this. But Tomtom isn't wrong in that collective stupidity plays a massive role too. The stupidity is sometimes in the individuals, for not understanding the science. But it is also in the collective, as in that we fail to transmit the knowledge that is available to the others in the system. It is further a collective stupidity because no individual can change the system on their own, with the best intentions in the world. I fully agree with both of you, really. (apart from your point that Tomtom's point was nonsense, so I guess not fully...)
@@mr-boo I wouldn't exactly call it stupidity (though I also won't fight the term). It's a psychological system to drive the masses towards the desired behaviour, regardless of what the individuals would want without this influence. It was developed during WWI, when the US wanted to enter the war but the US people didn't because they regarded it as a European affair. They called it Public Relations, and it was more effective than they could have hoped. In less than a year, people wanted to fight in the war. Post WWI, the same program was used to boost sales of private corporations, and a few decades later the NSDAP hijacked this exact system for their own political agenda - and if you can get a whole country to be on board with gassing millions of innocent people ... then what can this system not do? Today it is absolutely everywhere, every big corporation has its own PR office. The worst thing for climate change is that it's exactly the fossil fuel corporations that are some of the most influential and wealthy corporations, and they try to keep their profits up as much as possible, damn the consequences. That's why they boost so much money into climate change denying PR and have so much success with it.
Yeah, crop yields tend to increase with rising temperatures. Just look at all of history! The problem comes with a lack of moisture, which shouldnt be a an issue with warm sea temperatures, but climate is more difficult to predict than warm=better. So who knows.
I work in aviation. I have spoken with air traffic controllers who have, in some cases, worked at the same radar facilities, or control towers their entire career. Aircraft perform best into the wind. This is a fundamental rule of aviation. For this reason, runway changes are implemented to always be utilizing the winds to the best advantage. Crosswinds and tailwinds are not ideal, you want into the wind. The tower controllers in many cases have said, you know, back in the 80s, we used the XYZ runway configs maybe, 3 or 4 times per year. In some cases, it's like the east/west flows, where 99% of the time they're in a north flow, or similar. But they in some cases have said, well, now we run east/west flows half of the time we're operating...it's like, how can this be? Have the winds truly changed THAT much in just 20-30 years??? The answer is undoubtedly yes. When you hear anecdotes from everyday people like this, it really hits you, even more than the charts and hard science/data, IMO.
I also work in aviation, with ATC and on the airfield at several locations around the world, and I have never heard of this. Magnetic declination changes, sure, but not prevailing winds. What you are describing sounds more like changes to traffic patters due to increased traffic over the last 20-30 years. More planes mean more traffic on limited air and runway space necessitating updated or new approach and departure procedures.
This is very important info, especially because ppl do relate to it better, straight from personal experience. It should be part of a video, or something!
I live in Greece. December and January are usually the months with our heaviest rainfall. For the last two years we've had barely any rain during these months. Two, maybe three medium to big rains and that's it. I have been forced to irrigate our freshly planted fruit trees DURING WINTER! In the early 2000's I was hitchhiking with a man who had a bunch of farmer friends in the south of France. They used to rely on spring rains to grow hay for next winter, the summer being too dry for such growing conditions. When I hitched with him he told me that all of his friends were seeing a shift in the weather patterns towards heavier winter rains and dry springs. This was one of many recent springs where they were forced to let their cattle graze the spring growth instead of baling it for winter, putting them effectively 'into the red' when it comes to feed production. They would all have to buy in hay for winter feeding.
Please study the fundamentals of atmospheric physics and El Nino and La Nina period of warming oceans will intensify the droughts, the heat waves and the flooding events depending on which cycle is striking your area or any other continent on planet Earth Earth is entering a greenhouse gas mass extinction event there has not been seen in nearly 55 million years
I'm 71, born just after WW II. Of course I know my death is approaching - - as is global climate change. I may have lived thru a "golden age" none of us recognized.
Sounds like luxury, just 2 or 3 big rains? Not the 2 to 3 hundred big rain events Ive seen this past few months. So much rain its killed plants which is something ive never seen before in 50 years, you can always add more water but you cant take it away.
More than half. Pretty much all voters. And all those who perception of reality led them to trust "safe and effective". Purebloods can just sit and watch the lemmings run off the cliff.
You start to lose hope when you know that so many smart people have been trying to solve this problem for decades yet nothing fundamentally changes and it only gets worse. 😔
speed up ...and let go what isn't to hold. "Hope for... reward" -> is a sick mindset. You know - one might expect reward from work.... The usual outcome of Hope is desperation. Nobody hears your prayers. Hug yourself as strong as you can.
Radical, desperate, and literal, bloody fight -- basically a global revolution -- is what it would take to change course, and even then it might be too little too late. What is pretty sure though is that we, as a species, are not yet adult enough to handle a situation like this. Too bad, could've been such a nice story, with a little bit more luck...
@@jamestbg8132 Some people (let's pretend not PBS itself...) couldn't even tolerate a previous comment of mine simply stating the obvious fact that meaningful (i.e. radical) global change would require radical change of behavior on a global level. (Can't repeat what that -- pretty obviously -- entails, because it would surely trigger the same person(s) yet again.) Makes you wonder "what hope?!" if you're only allowed to attack our hardest crisis ever with wishful thinking, and the same old feel-good, or at best "mildly concerned" narrative that has brought us so much... um, so much what? Lost time, and no improvements to speak of. So, politeness is what will save us now, right? Well, thanks for that. Much more convenient, indeed.
@@lunakid12 Dont feed your ego. As likely it is you have right in theory, its known that you need to take people with you. Radical change allways takes victims and those who think it is necessary ... mostly turned out to be psychopaths or dictators. We are intelligent enough and we do know what to do, even without risking full clash of civilizations. Our problem are the idiots who follow the people who dont care about future generations and do care more about their own wealth and power, but all in all its the (by far better organized) minority.
im from Nova Scotia (near the 'cold blob') flooding has been insane these last couple years (record rainfall according to atlantic ctvnews). this year has seen 4x as many lightning strikes compared to the average of the last 20 years (26,194 in 2022, 6,266 average for the last 20 years. there is a CBC article but i can't post links in comments)
Sadly, the wealthy and powerful don't "believe" in data and science. Only their opinions and instant internet assessments count. But it's funny you mention how lightning strikes are 4x as common, because that is *precisely* what happens when extreme temperatures collide under the right circumstances. There are already places on the planet that experience these kinds of "every hour lightning strikes", but obviously, no one lives there.
I'm from Stockholm Sweden and we barely have winters anymore. This summer we have seen an insane amount of rain in a very short period which has caused massive flooding and failed crops.
You can post the title of the page and the site (minus domain) in plain text, for people to search. Nova Scotia Storm of the summer brought 23,000 lightning strikes to N.S. N.S. broke July lightning strike records by a long shot - all because of one storm Brooklyn Currie · CBC News · Posted: Aug 20, 2023 A more interesting article I found while looking for that one; A look at Ottawa's summer of heavy rain, tornadoes and lightning strikes Josh Pringle CTV News Ottawa Published Aug. 13, 2023
I also live in Nova Scotia the weather this year has been extreme to say the least. I don't need a measuring device to tell me this is not normal I've lived here my whole life.
In Japan, rising seawater temperatures are increasing the activity of algae-eating fish, leading to an increase in areas where algae are becoming extinct. The extinction of algae has a major impact on the growth of marine life. As a result, more and more fishermen are planning to protect and regenerate algae.
As a sailor I've been hearing people talk about losing the Gulf Stream and was curious about how that might happen. Thanks for answering literally every question I might have come up with about the subject. Once again you and your great team have hit a home run. 👏 👏 👏
Keep in mind the Gulf Stream and the AMOC are completely different things, when people talk about this collapsing and freezing Europe they are talking about the AMOC
The oceans need draining before they boil. Water Vapor (WV) is a greenhouse gas as potent as CO2 according to theory. On average there is 50 times as much WV in the atmosphere as CO2. The fact that it is non -persistent is often mentioned. It doesn't have to be. You can AVERAGE (integrate) the effect. There is on AVERAGE 50 times as much.
@@1ycan-eu9ji Water vapor is doing us in. Water Vapor (WV) is a greenhouse gas as potent as CO2 according to theory. On average there is 50 times as much WV in the atmosphere as CO2. The fact that it is non -persistent is often mentioned. It doesn't have to be. You can AVERAGE (integrate) the effect. There is on AVERAGE 50 times as much.
@@msimon6808 Maybe you don't realize that as the atmosphere warms it can hold MORE water. That is why CO2 acts as a thermostat. Increase CO2 (GHG) and it will warm and then more water (GHG) will enter the atmosphere, ... Yep. CO2 is the culprit. Thanks for pointing it out.
I will forever remember my Ecology 101 professor in college way back in the early 00s discussing this system and our impact on it, and telling us that every major disruption of the thermohaline circulation is strongly correlated with mass extinction events. The whole classroom gasped in recognition of just how dire this is, and went silent.
My high school AP physics teacher did a thought experiment like this that left the whole class shaken. We were calculating the energy input required to phase change ice into water, and then what the water will end up temperature wise with that same continued input. He applied it to the real with with the artic sea ice, and the arctic sea. The amount of energy we're putting in to the arctic *currently* that's melting ice, increasing the albedo of both water and land, and releasing additional greenhouse gases from the thawing tundra. Point is, the Arctic ocean will be a balmy 40°C, based on those rudimentary psychic equations, and not including any of those other inputs i listed above. Should start buying beach front property in Hudson Bay. I'll be a prime beach destination by the end of the century
Sorry you were duped by poorly trained scientists. These are solar affects impacting every other planet in our star system. There are no bbq's taking place on the outer planets, or on Venus and Mercury. And there is literally _nothing_ you or anyone else can do to stop this.
This is also one of the things I strongly remember from Ecology 101 in the early 00s. It was terrifying then and now it is just mind numbing that we are actually approaching this event.
Love the way you broke down the word thermohaline for folks without getting pedantic. Getting folks who are busy with other concerns in life up to speed without getting condescending is going to be key as this all gets more complicated and intrudes into everyone's lives. Well done, as usual. Weathered is a really, really great series that brings fairly detailed science in a way that's understandable to the general public. Thanks for all you do!
2011 was the record low polar ice. The ice ages cycles only started when north and south americans join toguether, blocking the old world stream more centralized like in pacific and indic. So this atlantic shape, creates a piston movement on the stream that creates the cycle warm - cold - warm - cold of the north atlatic and polar oceans, afecting the rest of the planet as well. If you watch closely, its only the north pole that are trully warming up, and not the south pole. The atlantic piston cycle. ;) (just a wild thinking that i had 6 years ago)
Just wanted to give a counter point of view after talking with some climate scientists/oceanographers who study the AMOC directly (shoutout to Dr. Penny Holliday!). The Ditlevson & Ditlevson paper is really the only recent one that is predicting AMOC collapse this century (with a 95% confidence level which in of itself is suspicious given the unpredictably of chaotic systems like an AMOC collapse). The IPCC estimated it very unlikely to happen this century based on the scientific consensus (single digit percent level as Rahmstorf hoped). The disconnect comes from Ditlevson & Ditlevson using a novel (and controversial) analysis technique. North Atlantic (NA) Sea Surface Temperature (SST) has been used as a proxy for AMOC strength before and the usual protocol is to subtract the Global Mean SST to take out seasonal variability and the direct impact of global warming on SST. To account for polar amplification (more warming in the Arctic relative to the mean), the group subtracted 2 times the Global Mean SST from the NA SST instead. This has the effect of exaggerating the variability and decline of the AMOC and is what gives you the downward slope graph shown in the video. By just subtracting the 1 times the Global Mean, you don't see this decline. The paper also neglects to include any of the direct measurements of the AMOC strength that we have been taking continuously since 2004. The measurements showed a slight decline in the 2000s but the AMOC slowly grew in strength in 2010s (likely just due to natural variability). This is not to say the paper is wrong. It's a very sophisticated analysis for the most part and can still tell us some interesting things. But the science on AMOC collapse is in no way settled. We have to wait and see. This is also not to downplay the importance of an AMOC collapse. If the paper turns out to be right or if we don't bring down emissions this century, an AMOC collapse would be absolutely devastating for the exact reasons outlined in the video. All in all, an excellent video and an important discussion but take it with a grain of salt. (shamelessly replying to the top comment to increase visibility lol)
Often wondered as a Scot why scotlands warming isnt happening... Now I know...cold blob proximity. Only we could miss warning entirely and go straight from cold to ice age 😂
@user-uk8tl3xy9e theres three measures of weather in Scotland Pure Baltic - very cold Baltic - Cold Taps aff - wishful thinking in summer. Winters are milder generally but its simply a different form of cold. Not noticed sea levels as its a poor bastard who gets into the sea in Scotland. You have to count your toes afterwards. If this blob is going to cool Scotland again my dream that once spain is too hot the Isle of Harris becomes the new Ibiza will sadly not happen. :)
Having been a small fruit grower - blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, elderberries, highbush cranberries, gooseberries, plus a wild grove of mulberries - I have watched in 20 years a shift of a full hardiness zone in our area. The problem is that it's not a "clean" increase, we still get oddball very late freeze events in spring that two years ago caused a LOT of my fruits to have substantially decreased yields, both due to freeze damage and it being too cold for pollinators for nearly two weeks right in the early spring blooming season. Plus I've seen an increase in various insect pests, and a massive and unpredictable increase in fungal diseases. It's going to be worse with forestry and tree crops, as these changes may mean that you have a disease or pest that suddenly invades areas with mature trees, wiping them out. For example, they found out that cold winters can massively reduce emerald ash borer populations, but we've had enough warmer winters that even the Great Lakes States are getting hammered. Ash trees may become extremely rare in the United States due to this. So this is a huge problem. I cannot understand why so many farmers are voting for politicians that are blocking any steps to deal with climate change, because whether it's farmers in the Colorado River Basin (20 year mega-drought that may just be ending, though it's more likely a reprieve not a pardon) or farmers having to plant more southern varieties of blueberries that are inferior to the more northern ones in taste, but can survive extended heat waves better (look up Rabbiteye versus Northern Highbush Blueberries), farmers can see climate change in action over half a lifetimes of farming (20 years). As an example of how devastating this can be to farmers and crops, it's not just having to change Blueberry species, but you end up pulling up or losing mature bushes that could have lived 50 years and had over 20 years of optimal yields, and the new pushes can take 5 years to return to full yields. Assuming no drought, because freshly planted/younger bushes have less of a root system, and are more susceptible to water shortages. Look how devastating a workplace injury or layoff that causes a family to lose months of income can be - and then consider surviving a five year financial hit. There are dozens of other examples, and it's not just in the United States but all over the world agriculture will require massive, rapid changes to cope with this. Then when you have overpumping of aquifers, like in the Colorado River Basin, you end up with a collapse when that water becomes prohibitively expensive, if the dry period continues. Look up "food riots". Drought and famine have been events that have ended civilizations. Plus famine gives you more disease, and nations go to war to make sure "their" people don't starve. You've got all four horsemen covered...
I couldn't agree more. Problem is also that farmers or farm companies are also big poluters and industrial farming is responsable for too much poluters on planet (people). We need to lower population in soft way or nature will make it the hard way. Plus we need to go on sustainable way of production of food and with all other industries. But this will not happen until gloriefied capitalism is rooling the world.
@@ueasy1actually, due to aging populations across most of the developed world, scientists are now predicting that the the global population will reach its peak and then begin falling around the year 2050.
Effects on the productiveness of fisheries & general aquaculture worries me too, esp. for island nations like ourselves & many of our neighbours down here? Very high-population-density regions like SE Asia are highly dependent on marine sources for food security too.
You bring up so many good points. Climate policy is economic policy. If you are concerned about the United States and the global economy, then you should be voting for climate protective policies and political representatives that support them.
The government doing something can only make it worse. And there are governments working closely with powerful and evil people who are using this climate change to scare everyone into total submission. Dont be one of them.
@lailahreich3205 The crazy thing is people consider humans to be so intelligent. Its not a very intelligent move to know what you're doing is terrible and bad for your survival, yet continue to do it. No other animal on this planet would do that except for humans, yet we're so smart.
You trust either government of companies to sale an actual solution to this when they can just do their ESG BS to give off the appearance of it??? 😂😂 cmon now. Instead they create the crisis funded by your money and sell you the solution
"For years, we operated under the belief that we could continue consuming our planet's natural resources, without consequence. We were wrong. I was wrong."-Vice President Becker, _The Day After Tomorrow_
As a Dutch person I am used to mild weather in general, mild summers, mild winters. Although when I was a kid in the 1980s the winters in my country were much more harsh than these days. People here love ice skating on natural ice. This has been done for so many years on canals, lakes and even rivers at time. In the province of Friesland, if weather conditions allowed, we organized a 200km ice skating tour across 11 cities (also known as the "11 cities tour", or "Elfstedentocht" in Dutch. The last time we could do this, and the whole country was sitting in front of the tv watching this event was in January 1997. So imagine, it has been 26 years ago that this thing could be organized. The only plus side of the Gulf-stream slowing down or stopping is that we would be able to skate more often. But in general I doubt it will be good for Western Europe if this ocean cooling/warming effect will diminish.
deze fenomenen is niet zo speciaal, aangezien het vroeger gebeurde maar de mens nog in haar prille begin was gaat men nu moord en brand schreeuwen ofzo? kom zeg! als ons voor ouders dit konden overleven waarom wij niet? hier moet ik hard om lachen! de mens en hun luxe leven is in gevaar! 🙄🤑
Wow! That city tour must have been fanstastic. Here in Ottawa, Canada, we have the Rideau canal. In the '80 we could skate the whole 7 km until we arrived at Dow's lake. In the past years, there is only a small stretch of ice that they can open to skate as it requires constant waterings to try to make a safe thickness, and year after year we see the number of ice skating days diminish. In 2023 I think it was open 11 days. We are losing this wonderfull winter fun.
Interesting story. Thank you for sharing it with us. I have a pond in western ny. 10 years ago it froze enough to skate, but I haven't been able to skate in the last 5 winters. The weather is definitely changing. Climate change occurs over thousands of years so its impossible to tell yet.
I don't think it will get colder like they said, the tendency is actually to get hotter if you look at other interglacial periods of earth history, especially without the artic ice cap. The higher latitudes should expect temperatures to rise really fast in the next few years. Your testimony only confirms it. The climate will be similar to earth 3 to 4 million years ago.
@@TheNewCarryTrade no you are demonstrating the Krueger d u n n i n g effect. Humans are causing the rapid warming of the planet with tremendous amounts of carbon dioxide emissions add roughly 37 billion tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year third year after year after year after year after year. Was becoming less pronounced as the global population was smaller requiring less and less energy every year energy comes from the burning of fossil fuels planet Earth is actually in a greenhouse gas mass extinction event you may not experience the ferocity the storms in heat waves and drought that your children and grandchildren will experience. A high emissions scenario by 2100 will only leave 1 billion humans how to survive on planet Earth. Most humans between the Equator and the 36 chicory latitudes will either die off or migrate North there will be a huge complex over extremely short Water Supplies or famine. This is the reason play all carbon emissions need to come to a stop or at least reduce the output to a level that all forests and all oceans can absorb safely. But I'm not hopeful that's going to happen
Your wife should be lucky its her grandfather... because if it was her father - or her brother - or you - or her son, they'd be in for a rude awakening over the next couple years. Data says the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation current is weakening faster than we thought. Europe is going to cool massively, very quickly, sea levels will rise, ice will melt, waters will cool marginally cool as ice melts off, locally, then temps will rise. These rising temps will impact lobster populations. The lobster industry in Maine is going to end except for very regulated fishing. The populations will not support it. It's not so much the climate CHANGE - both we and ecosystems can adapt - it's the SPEED in which its happening, reducing the ability for that adaptation. We're not ready. Culturally. Politically. Or economically. Buckle up.
As a Norwegian who just had his first child this truly scares me. We have always heard of what would happen if it collapses. It was told almost as a scary story around the bonfire. But that its becoming a reality within my lifetime is truly sobering. I think we as a country are about to have a wake up call as it slams in our face. I can try to help prevent it, but as a citizen... As a father. I have no idea how to prepare.
Don't let it scare you. The earth is fine. It's a dynamic planet where sometimes it rains a lot and sometimes not. Sometimes it's unusually hot and swings the other way. Sometimes it's calm and sometimes it storms so bad it kills. That's how it always has been and will continue to be. Enjoy your new baby and don't lose sleep over the climate. They want you scared to extract money from you, to save you from an imaginary problem.
I just hope my family and I are gone before anything major happens My parents are in their 70s I don't think they would survive I'm in my 40s I feel that my generation will see the beginning and be the 1st to try to adapt and survive.
@@lennonwilson6407 yea ... the damn heat here in Texas... seems like every 10 or 15 yrs it gets hotter...I remember back in the 80s you actually wanted to go out and play now it's just miserable insufferable heat..plus I have inte to leave this future "death valley" and leave somewhere up north or just maybe to another country.
All we can do is teach our children well, teach them to grow and respect nature, and to love and care for one another, much love from father to father!
Stefan Rahmstorf is one if the leading scientists working on the AMOC so I take note of what he says. The paper sighted at the end with it's alternative explanation for the Cold Blob does not account for the marked rise in sea temperature off the US East Coast which models predict for a slowdown of the AMOC.
Hi Pete, good points here. We really felt that a nod to the evolving nature of science was important. Stefan is featured heavily but there are peer reviewed papers that disagree with his findings and that's part of a healthy scientific process.
30 years ago in school it was called the Thermo-haline circulation belt. Our instructors warned about the implications of it shutting down. It's a scary thing, especially for Europe.
i think its scary for all world. its just Atlantic ocean is more eemm important for research than rest of them. this will probably change flows in all oceans, everything is connected.
@@jadezahreddine5379 Nobody has to prove it isn't shutting down. The onus is on those predicting it will shut down, to prove their claims. So far, every climate catastrophe prediction has proven to be wrong. ALL of 'em.
@@soakupthesunman But there must be at least 500 books that can be written and sold on that hype. Think of all the conferences and grant money colleges can get. Like the Roswell alien conference were all the rage, pre internet.
Its scary to see the whole scientific comunity putting the likelyhood of the scary tipping points closer and closer… the fact that I still have to convince many people around me that this is real and we will all suffer the consequences, triggers me even more
To be fair the earth changes all the time. And we have 70 years to adapt. When it starts getting too hot to grow one crop we grow another. One area that was great for fishing may just move down a bit.
I could tell you one that happened over 20 years ago...my dad has been a bayman his whole life. In the late 90's all the lobsters died and my family went broke- my parents had to do everything they could to get together and work that issue out. It was sad the day my father got rid of his lobster boat. He still digs clams and hes almost 70.
It's a shame because in reality humanity is a Gargantuous family, but we don't operate as one, so we won't figure it out together like your family did. The "solution" will be individualistic or "tribal" at most
This program YT is another yarn we are doomed our goose is cooked 😢 with a spicy add on swim with the sharks . lobsters wee over fished in many regions so now the lobsters are trapped young in lobster pots and kept and fed fish for months inside the lobster pots and no word from Irish lobster fisher men that lobsters are fished ready cooked or ready frozen in the pots 😂 This program on RUclips forgot to mention there is a expental growth in numbers and size of underwater volcanos as earth splits apart 😮 in the mid Atlantic ridge adding extra heat to north and south Atlantic oceans deep waters . Without inputting these extra heat input numbers this program was just another spooky bed time tall story😮 for the gullible 😂 who will agree to pay the Carbon tax 😢 to the wizard guy behind the curtain too save thier bacon 😅
@@shiningirisheyes Thank you petro bot, I look forward to tomorrow's spam where you blame it on the sun or Earth coming out of an ice age. I can never tell which but it's always fun seeing which zero evidence excuse you paste on shuffle.
@@shiningirisheyesWhat is fascinating to me is how efficient all these underwater volcanos are heating up the Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Arctic Ocean, and the Pacific Ocean at the same time. And it's crazy how they are all so silent like sunshine, no big explosions or earthquakes or magma flows or steam or anything. It's crazy too how those underwater silent volcanos seem to be making air temperatures even hotter than the oceans.
And they didn't even mention the Beaufort Gyre... a much more intense modification of the AMOC that will dump more fresh water than is contained in the great lakes into the North Atlantic. This usually happens within 1-2 years once it starts and can last for 20 years. It's a known northern hemisphere cooling factor. By not adding this to their story they've left out a huge factor that could cause that "2060" date to look more like 2025.
It also means the record warm oceans we are seeing now will get exponentially hotter as all that tropical heat will have no where to go. If the oceans die the land dies.
2011 was the record low polar ice. The ice ages cycles only started when north and south americans join toguether, blocking the old world stream more centralized like in pacific and indic. So this atlantic shape, creates a piston movement on the stream that creates the cycle warm - cold - warm - cold of the north atlatic and polar oceans, afecting the rest of the planet as well. If you watch closely, its only the north pole that are trully warming up, and not the south pole. The atlantic piston cycle. ;) (just a wild thinking that i had 6 years ago)
This happens every 12, 000 or so years as part of a regular cycle. Modern humans have been through at least 16 of such cycles. Our neanderthal brethren went through even many more. Will not be easy, but it is survivable.
That cold spot could be the stagnation of the water currents in AMOC. When currents are moving the cold water gets pushed around, but when they slow down the cold water stays in place and gets colder and colder.
Well that's exactly what it is of course except that "stagnation" isn't really the word that's used (same concept though). The water flow has slowed like you said so some more heat is staying to the southwest (you clearly see the Warm Blob) instead of flowing up to the northeast and warming the Cold Blob as fast as it used to. That water is simply running down hill of course (well except that 85% of it is wind driven, unrelated to AMOC). The bit running down hill is filling in the dents left by the deep water heading south of course.
My only question about that is why is this happening when thermodynamics dictates that if anything, that blob should be warming like everything else. The cold water should be trying to spread out underneath the warm water rather than pooling up in one place. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying that this is an effect of increasing global temperatures. I'm more just kinda confused by it, since it kinda defies physics. Ocean currents are driven by convective processes, so if you add more heat to the hot side of the system if anything it should intensify, as the heat is trying to move into the colder areas so that the system can achieve homeostasis. But this is the opposite of what we're actually seeing.
@@VestedUTuber….as ice from Greenland melts, the meltwater is freshwater and less dense than the sea water so it floats on top of the more dense sea water. This cold water patch is amplified over time and eventually slows the transport of warm water from the south. Eventually, this can result in an Ice Age. This is explained at 4:20.
@@desertsky9886 Except that freshwater doesn't _stay_ freshwater, it eventually mixes with the seawater, and quite quickly for that matter. Plus, if it was just sea melt, the cold blob's concentrations would be at it's highest around Greenland's coastlines, particularly in areas where there are actively melting ice shelves. Instead we're seeing it primarily concentrated in the middle south of Greenland's southernmost tip, so either something's dragging all that freshwater into the blob quicker than the ice is actually melting or there are other factors involved.
Climate migration leading to conflict is the most worrisome in my opinion. Subsaharan Africa, South and Central Asia, China, and parts of Europe are likely to be far less habitable. This amounts to more than 25% of the global population. We humans are not very welcoming to migrants now and the numbers are nowhere near what they will be in 100 years.
Climate migration from state to state will happen here. The Midwest will become inundated with climate refugees from coastal areas and the hotter southern tier of states. Where will the breadbasket grow traditional crops with the influx of that many people? We are going to have to get over our fixation with beef, wheat and corn and start growing crops that need less processing, less space and less intensive farming practices. Field corn is really of little use as food without turning it into cattle feed, corn meal and corn syrup. It is too low in nutrition to feed us as is. Refined white flour is labor and space intensive to produce. Cattle simply take up too much room and too many resources, as well as releasing a lot of methane. We will all need a vegetable patch and a few chickens scratching around if we survive the collapse of the ecosystem.
thank you for clarifying that the AMOC =/= the gulf stream and that if the AMOC slows the gulf stream won't disappear (unlike some recent clickbaity news articles)
If people in England or Scandinavia worry about the Gulf Stream, they aren't thinking about the direction of water surfacer flow in the North Atlantic, they are worried about the warmth it brings. The people who have complained about "AMOC ≠ Gulf Stream" have been more clickbaity than the articles they have criticized.
It’s enraging how many people REFUSE to accept that experts who spend their entire lives studying this issue, but somehow the morons out there dismiss the experts, because, you know, they know better 🤬🙄🤬
Seeng people still completely clueless on global warming is like seeing a tribe that had no contact with civilization somewhere in the Amazon rain forest... hard to believe such a thing is even still possible. Some people must have lived under a rock the last half century.
Which "experts" are you referring to? There are plenty of experts that disagree with much of the current climate scare. If you search for them you can hear what they have to say, but because they don't have huge financial support like the scientist backed by big corporations with agenda's like say BP or Ghislain Maxwell they aren't heard from as much. Or like PBS a gov funded program listening to scientist with gov. grants to study climate change. Now why would any bureaucracy want to spread data that would make it's job obsolete? After all the gov. has spent $1 million to test and see if cocaine would make quail more sexually active. Many of these "experts" pushing this agenda have interesting benefactors. For example I mentioned BP, did you know BP created the term "carbon footprint" in a campaign to clean up their image after they just had the famous environmental disaster with their offshore oil rig. I'm all about keeping the planet clean. Always have been. I have come to learn though if there is a way to exploit something, whether it is power or money, someone will use it for their own benefit. The cost on others be damned. Follow the money and you will find answers.
Remember this. Most of the people you see wandering about day to day are really thick. Truly, incredibly thick. And too stupid to realize how thick they are.
Ice core samples do show that just before the last Ice Age, there was a warming, that became a "run away warming" and then suddenly, the temperature dropped by as much as 6º within two years, then it rose again, up and down, extreme highs to extreme lows, within two or three years. After a few cycles, less than twenty years altogether, the temperature dropped drastically and didn't came back up again, until the Ice Age was over. It was theorized at that that the warming had caused the collapse of the ocean currents as you have described.
That was the theory that was pseudo used for the movie “day after tomorrow”. They of course bastardized it but still Ask I pressed submit, she mentioned the movie lol
If you look carefully at the graphs from ice core samples that show temperature, CO2 and methane, you will see that in EVERY CASE where there was a spike in temperature, the first thing to rise was not CO2, it was Temperature, followed by CO2.@@stevenhull5025
If you look carefully at the graphs of ice core information that shows temperature, CO2, and methane, you will see that every time there is up ward movement, it ALWAYS begins with temperature, followed by CO2, and then methane. I think the Sun is the primary driver. It is well known that the more sunspot, the more energy the sun is putting out; and that the "Little Ice Age," as its called, from 1300 to 1850 AD, was the result of the lack of sunspots, that is now called the Maunder Minimum. We are now in a sunspot cycle that was expected to be on the low side, but is much higher than expected. @@kennethsnyder9236
Living in one of your “riskiest regions” of the u.s. I have a front row seat to climate change, yet we are continually amazed our neighbors and politicians can deny anything is amiss. We can no longer deny to ourselves that we need to leave for our health and quality of life is suffering even though our income is tied to the area as well as our families. My anxiety cannot take hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, drought, heat domes, power failures, and now wildfire especially in our elder years like we are now. This is getting worse each and every year. I have actually encouraged my grown children to escape if they possibly can because I love them so much. Escape will be harder and harder as time marches on there will be nowhere to go but staying here is not an option.
Where do you want your kids to escape too, so I can send my kids with them I am 63 so by the time 2060 arrives when the AMOC stops I will be long gone but my daughter and especially my granddaughter will be here to face the collapse
I live in eastern Pennsylvania and the last couple years I have noticed that are growing seasons has changed its about a month earlier than normal. I do gardening at home and I've noticed it in my garden and flowers and the budding on trees
I realise you are a US company but it would be great to cover the whole world, including Southern hemisphere in your maps/predictions. We're concerned about this in Australia as well. I particularly wanted to see about the monsoon belt dropping but Australia was cut off the map.
It has a lot to do with Greenland melting, and dumping vast quantities of cold, fresh water into the ocean in one place relatively quickly (at least on a geological timescale).
Never even remotely I’d be living through and witnessing the first part of the 6th extinction. I believe it will go much faster than people realized due to a domino effect of interdependent systems collapsing. And the Darwin Award goes to ✉️ …. Homo sapiens! Congratulations 🎉
An excellent presentation. Mankind bringing disaster first upon the world's ecosystems, plants and animals, and then of course upon itself. We did well there!
Only man’s insufferable ego would lead him to think he’s is the omnipotent force behind this change. Humanity treads water in a sea of dynamic and powerful forces. Civilizations have risen and collapsed MANY times more than our global-elite controlled narrative would have us believe. C02 has extremely limited greenhouse effect over 400 ppm and we know that C02 has been many times higher than that over the millennia, perhaps due to dinosaurs driving very large SUVs.
The oceans are doing it. Water Vapor (WV) is a greenhouse gas as potent as CO2 according to theory. On average there is 50 times as much WV in the atmosphere as CO2. The fact that it is non -persistent is often mentioned. It doesn't have to be. You can AVERAGE (integrate) the effect. There is on AVERAGE 50 times as much. The oceans must be drained.
We still have tons of work to do on educating the general population. The other day, I just had a conversation where a guy said that carbon is good for the environment and that the hole in the ozone layer was a good thing because "even a fireplace has a flute! Hot air needs someplace to go!" It was very disheartening hearing someone my age have that loose of a grasp on science.
Thanks for that comment. Yes, it is really sad. Sleep well America! (sorry, just assumed it was US, I live in the US so I can completely relate. But perhaps this is a global phenomenon as well.. god, I hope not!)
My biggest concern is the regional variation of global warming. Too many pundits talk about global temperature instead of regional changes. It is well known that the southern hemisphere and the tropics haven't risen anywhere near as much as the higher latitudes of the northern hemisphere especially the artic. In the artic tundra the permafrost contains as much methane hydrate as all the fossil fuels burned in the last 150 years. If methane is released from the permafrost it holds more atmospheric heat 20X, than co2, as much as water vapor. I've never seen a timeline on how much temperature rise will release how much methane. Back to regional variation. Most of the worlds ecosystems/ vegetation zones have a huge shift in seasonal rainfall with dry seasons being part of the cycle. Agriculture depends on these specific rainfall patterns. We in the US especially east of the Mississippi have more moderate high and low range.. The other fear is for Asia. 8 majors rivers come from snow melt of the Himalaysian mountains. If there was only a 20% drop, China, India, Pakistan and Southeast Asia would suffer lower food production. But like you said changes in the AMOC is also a big threat.
I don't know if you knew this but the big concern if AMOC slows a lot is that it might well alter the tropical monsoon, possibly reducing rain for India & Southeast Asia. The cooling of Europe is more certain but the tropical monsoon possibility would have more negative effect than a couple degrees of Europe cooling, if that monsoon change does happen and reduces the rain on land.
I’ve seen more storms/tornadoes/flooding in Appalachia already. Isn’t that ocean current a trade route too? If winds/infrastructures get altered/broken we will experience gaps in power/internet/trade which our economy relies on. Theres so many consequences it’s terrifying.
The UK has been stuck in this cold blob all month, Literally no direct sun light for a month in Scotland, just a thick blanket of cloud cover. As we share the north poles Jet stream (cold blob) I actually went for a Swim in the north sea last week, as it was a weird warm day But still dark skys, but first day with no wind. Your heat wave mid summer still scorched the top of the thick Dark blanket of cloud. Giving an eerie glow and temperatures above the teens°
I'm in Michigan and I've spent my entire life outdoors fishing and hunting. I've been watching the weather since the early 1980's. One of my favorite activities is ice fishing. In the 1980's and 90's we could drive our cars on the great lakes. The lakes froze by mid December and thawed in late March. The coastguard had to use ice breakers to open the shipping lanes. In the early 2000's the lakes didn't freeze until the 2 week of January and thawed in late Febuary. The past 10 years the lakes barely freeze. No major snow storms in SE Michigan in 20 years. Nothing in comparison to the 80's and 90's. It still gets cold and it still snows but not like it used to.
If the AMOC stops, power, internet or trade will the least of your concern. A temperature drop of 15 °C can be expected in Europe. This alone will wreck havoc globally.
Not the only issue we are dealing with. The Earth's magnetic field is exponentially weakening as time goes on. The EMF acts as a protective shield in relation to Solar and cosmic energies/events. As the EMF gets weaker and weaker, it becomes more and more probable that a strong Solar storm (very strong solar CME, or multiple moderate ones) will take out the currently fragile electrical grids. If that happens, that means a complete collapse of this civilization. Indeed, we are already seeing in this past few years, minor to moderate Solar events sparking auroras further and further south, and causing significant geomagnetic storms, when even 20 to 30 years ago, these events wouldn't have done either of these. Again, because of how fast the earth's magnetic field (EMF) is weakening. But this is not as well known or talked about because well, it is scarier and you can't blame humans for it. It is out of our control completely and utterly.
One day in the not so far future, most people will wake up to red skies and with electricity mysteriously shutting off everywhere. Of course, people will not know this is a universal occurrence because there will be no internet, no tv news, no ham radio (unless they EMP proof their systems ahead of time), etc. But as time goes on, and the electricity doesn't come back on for anyone, and as the grocery stores etc get ransacked, people will realize how dire the situation really is, and then mass panic will set in. The smarter people will quietly leave the city and near city areas and head for the woods and natural places to hide and to try to live off the land again. But how many actually have the skills and knowledge to do so? Meanwhile all the psychopaths and sociopaths who have always dreamt of living life without any consequences to their actions will come out of the woodworks to try to take advantage of the situation and seek to become petty gang leaders/chieftains raiding on other people and their supplies. Murdering, stealing, raping, and doing whatever they like.
I live in Germany and really prefer not to experience Canada like weather, as my latitude actually should experience if it weren’t for the warming effect of AMOC…
@@d.g.rohrig4063 There's only so much room on the northern west coast of North America, and they also have much bigger forest fires than here in Germany.
but there still is the warmer temperature in general, in summers it might not get as cold. also, i prefer colder winters (not wantig to say that I want the amoc to collapse) because then finally some of the thermophilic neobiota and neophytes don't spread here.
My concern about this situation is that whilst the media and governments play lip service to change, they're ultimately more concerned with profits, which drives consumption, and so far from seeing any changes in emissions, we see that year on year they rise.
It’s not just politicians, everybody is paying lip service to it. NOBODY is prepared to change their way of life; the only way is for the world, meaning globally and in unison to change - because some won’t do it while others do not; people are too selfish in that regard and won’t sacrifice unless everybody does. In the UK with Covid restrictions, the law was changed and people followed it. Only with laws, regulations and enforcement will people change because we need to be made to do it, we are too self centred to do it ourselves.
I agree, but without leadership people won't change, they might resent and oppose it, but it's simply not happening; and in the meanwhile yet more oil rigs and coal mines are opened, I never realised until recently the scale of coal mining and fracking in the US, let alone China, (who everyone loves to pass the blame onto.) Year on year more things are unnecessarily wrapped in plastic, almost all clothes are made of nylon, people have little choice in these matters, and it's all to benefit oil companies. Not that even they will ultimately benefit, but they're too blinded by greed and power to see their own evil stupidity, so they, with complicit media and governments keep the people as ignorant and stupid as they are.@@techyd8411
Well… unless we are prepared to let billions of people die across the world. All it will be is lip service. At the most we will get a turtles pace of change.
@@techyd8411 shifting the blame to regular, everyday people with all the concerns but no power is not it. This isn't about personal responsibility. It's about holding corporations and government accountable.
Troubling is how Americans especially have this sense of exceptionalism, dismissing climate change with the "we'll just adapt" flip of the head. And this coming from people who had actwo year temper tantrum because they were asked to wear a mask in order to adapt to a virus.
I am glad to hear about the cold blob. This is the first time that I have heard so much about it. The behavior of our marine life is very apparent this year.
World got a record heat wave, Scotland got a month of no direct sunlight. Just a Thick blanket of cloud.... For a Month. We are sharing north poles cold Jet stream.
This area is colder because that is where all the icebergs start out when they melt off the glaciers in Greenland. That's why it's getting colder as the melting is speeding up.
I'm most concerned about my child's future and mass starvation and suffering. It's becoming agonizing to be surrounded by folx that are seemingly unwilling to look at what's happening or do anything to change it.
I think the greatest impacts are whenever people have volunteered to repair or replace native ecosystems so that nature has a chance of recovering, and to turn farms into ecosystems so that they can sustain themselves better, and when plastics in our oceans and streams are removed permanently. This ecosystem, as imperiled as it is, is also resilient as it is a fractal ecosystem, made out of countless smaller ecosystems, comparable to the Mandelbrot set. Currently, for instance, four dams in the Klamath river in California and Oregon are being removed for fish passage, and the ecosystems which once were will be rebuilt.
Good post! And it reminds me of how bad I felt for those people who have been successfully planting baby corals for several years now, only to have ocean temps reach record highs this summer and bleach them all. Hopefully some coral species will be resilient enough to recover, but still, I'd be in tears if I were them (and they probably were).
You hope you can rebuild them. In reality corporate broke them make them pay to fix it and they will stop 🛑 screwing things up so the bottom line is profitable. But until they pay for their mistakes themselves nothing will change. When the military industrial complex can't make money on war, war will stop. We are just a herd of animals the push where they want us to go and what to buy so they can live any way they want.
Farms already are ecosystems, and farmers spend a significant amount of time under microscopes and testing their soil chemistry to make sure they have an optimum ecosystem to grow the most amount of food in the least amount of space.
Too little too late i believe we have already tipped over the edge. The poles are shifting which i think will cause extreme winters and summers. Its 110 f in Texas we are burning up down here we got phoenix weather which is crazy.
Thanks for this. I've been saying for years that it's gonna get really cold here in Europe once the gulf stream breaks down. And I can already see all the climate change deniers then being bolstered because hey, a local cold phenomenon is of course proof there is no global warming ... ugh.
Sorry to be pedantic, the gulf stream won't stop, it can't due to the earth's rotation. It will however move further south, depriving most of Europe of the warm waters/air currently enjoyed.
@@s.c.m6510 Do you have anything to back your claim? From what I've always understood the gulf stream is mostly driven by temperature and salinity difference between polar and equatorial waters, not the Earth's rotation.
@@The_Razielim With the conclusion that "increasingly, scientists are worried that it could collapse altogether." Okay. Mixing up AMOC and the gulf stream here.
Look up climate impact maps. There are many for a variety of topics and under a variety of circumstances, temperature and sea level rise in particular but you can also find changes in precip and wildfire risk
Is the ecosystem today able to adapt to a rapid change from an Interglacial period into a non ice age period? No. The dinosaurs adapted in a non ice age, meaning they are used to that intense heat. This is a rapid change from our ice age (yes, where in an ice age, the presence of large ice sheets prove that) into a temperate period without any time to adapt. This will literally fuck the world and ecosystems over so many times that I’m surprised if biodiversity stays at a high rate.
I am so pleased you were able to collaborate with the shark study team. My daughter and I watched that together. Climate collapse is a little heavy for her age group, but we share what we can.
Ignore the climate deniers. You're doing good, you're preparing your kid. Remember, if we don't do something, things will get much worse than just watching a video.
No one is denying the climate is changing. We all know the causes are multivariant and no reasonable person can point to anthropologic interference as the reason as the climate has always changed, and will continue to change. My point, and others are that there's no point living in fear or feeding fear to your kids. The earth isn't going to die, the oceans aren't going to dry up and regardless of this video and many like it the world will be find in 12 years, 50 years and a hundred years from now. Just as it has always been. Its ok to think critically about the agendas you chose to accept. @@FelipeKana1
Hopefully the world leaders can all fly on their private jets next year to talk about how we need to do something to save the planet despite every world leader having a nearly unanimous consensus on this topic.
She is so stunningly gorgeous that it's difficult to focus properly on what she is saying, while those black beautiful deep pool eyes make it almost impossible. Only way round this problem is to play the video on repeat till it all eventually sinks in. The science, I mean🙂🙄😉
I'm worried my home is going to be washed into the sea by rising sea water levels and repeated battering by strong hurricanes. And then I'll be homeless and the world will be facing dramatically increased food insecurity issues, there will be millions of climate refugees trying to escape to the narrowing band of livable land and the various warlords/oligarchs/"self-made-billionaires" will see that as an opportunity to get even richer at the cost of human lives. That's the part I'm most worried about, I guess. If I had to put a name to it.
I live in Northern Indiana and remember when I was a kid having snow in October, now we are lucky to have winter with any snow at all. Global warming is happening so much faster than ANYONE wants to admit. For anyone today that has young kids consider them the last generation survive on the planet. We have 50 years max but realistically its going to be more like 25 because in about 10 years time the amount of warming will have gotten so bad that runaway effect will have increased so much that about 10 or 15 years after that the earth WILL have become unlivable to the point that unless you are living underground you would not be able to survive. With everything that is going on in the world today and the fact that WW3 seems to be right around the corner, I have come to the sobering reality that maybe this particular planet and its species just wasn't meant to make it.
@@denniskartes1302 That isn't how mass works at all. Carbon is ONE ELEMENT. It isn't the particle responsible for mass. There is no carbon in Hydrogen, another element with fewer particles than Carbon.
@@denniskartes1302 where do you get all that confidence to make statements like that when you have no qualifications to what you are even talking about? Is this what they call the Dunning-Kruger effect?
Thank you for simply explaining what took an entire unit during my education. I've tried to explain why the slowdown of thermohaline circulation is bad, but I've never been able to do it justice. Hopefully now I can!
Yes, it means a problem with global cooling. Winter in Europe could be as much as 10 degrees colder.... More like Russian or Canadian winters. A lot of heat comes up on that Gulf Stream.... And if it stops....
Too bad they don't mention the real story...the Beaufort Gyre. Also, they keep the alarmist narrative going by talking about Greenland melt(which happens every year) and showing the glaciers growing, not receding.
CO2 IS PLANT FOOD - wake up people, still spewing the climate warming crap and their biased weather models that have been wrong for years... they don't even mention the impact of the SUN, or the Beaufort Gyer which is about to collapse and effecting Labrador current which will really affect the AMOC - bundle up England ( So much for global warming !!! ) Humans are NOT the cause of world climate just look at prehuman history and climate. Just more one sided PBS crap.
@@LeeRoland well, I guess that is one way of keeping the life expectancy low, the poverty rate high and the population under 1 billion as well as slavery being common in north America, and Europe like the rest of the world.
Nah, greed is not a new concept. Politicians back then were just as corrupt as they are today (though the technology did not exist that would expose any obvious crimes), but they could hide it easier (no tape recordings, or selfies). Graft probably fueled much of what we have been left to wrestle with. You could not get the better of the Rockefeller's, or Edison, Getty, Ford, and the rest! Money ruled then (as it always had), and as it still does. Elections cost billions in this day and age, as it did (in comparison) when Warren G. Harding was elected in 1920. @@LeeRoland
I am most worried that I will not live long enough to see the collapse of modern society as we know it. I am 60. Sorry to all of the younger folks and the situation they are inheriting.
This is the scariest thing coming. Around 11,000 BCE an ice dam broke and flooded the Mackinsey River in Canada with a Black Sea-sized lake of Laurentide glacial melt. The Mackensie carrlied that north into the Arctic and then ocean currents took it down past Baffin Island into the Labrador Sea, disrupting the AMOC. This started the Lesser Dryas, many centuries of ice age, a reverse-course when the world was warming.
Currently building a house designed to be off grid, with five acres to support myself and family. I've spent thirty years trying to get politicians and people to take this seriously, only to see society driven ever further right and anti-science. Good luck folks, hope gen Z can do better than we did.
@@OldOneToothI have 5.5 acres, a spring fed pond & a nice southern slope, high on the edge of a beautiful fertile valley. I've learned a lot about native plants & herbs in these last 30 yrs. But, it's hard to realize how unprepared most people are to the undeniable reality & people are already in desperate straits across the world. I've enjoyed reading all these comments after watching this very interesting presentation.
@@charlescoe226 It'll get worse if people are pushed out of the fat bit near the middle to the narrow bits near the poles. Though fertile land on, warm river valleys is the stuff that counts. 3 crops of rice a year on Sumatra feeds a lot of folk.
@@patricialyons491 It will be chaos. Those who have no means, or don't know how, to grow food will be attacking those with food. We'll either have to give up our hard-earned food or fight to keep it.
The frightening thing is we do not have any measure of how this will impact civilizations since nothing like this has occurred while we existed. So we can make predictions and expectations. The issue that makes it compounding is all the things we have not yet considered.
Watch The Collapse of Civilizations, it gives some ideas. I am only up to episode 9. I assume civilizations will collapse to a great die off since there won't be anywhere to go. I work on my self-sufficiency skills, which not only can't hurt, it is improving my life today.
Cold snaps, flooding from heavy rains, droughts happening at the wrong time can drastically reduce food harvesting. Changing weather patterns can create big problems. Mass migration is already happening in some areas. Look for this to increase. It's not just climate. Toxic chemicals are polluting our farm lands and drinking water.
It happened around 11000bc and we are just starting to find evidence of civilisations existing before that. So yes, it happened to us before but cancel culture got rid of all the knowledge we had back then. And by cancel culture I mean romans burning alexandria's library and european tribes burning roman books, christians burning arab books...it's been happening for a long time and we end up making the same mistakes over and over.
10:40 with that trajectory in mind, i wonder how that might be impacted even further by the disapearance of permafrost worldwide. As many have said the last year, most predictions have been replaced by worse once.
Ask anyone who owns a heated pool how much energy it takes to keep it warm. Now imagine that on the scale of the world's oceans. For many years the oceans have been a "buffer zone" or "time delay" between what we have tossed into our atmosphere over the decades and the warming we are starting to feel today. When climates all over the world change at the same time, well: Enjoy everyday you have left.
There also is going to be a effect this winter. Even today there is smoke in the air from Canada. Black absorbs heat. It also radiates it. IN 31 days Anything above 45 Degrees latitude will radiate more heat than it absorbs in those huge tracks of burn areas. Those areas are down wind from The Bearing sea and the Gulf of Alaska. So might get colder than -40 in Yellow Knife this winter. Why no F or C? -40 is the same on both thermometers. If it dips into the Great Lakes. Those will freeze over. All of them? Then then the ice breaker will be working non stop next winter.
Face it, at this point we're beyond controlling this thing. I plan not to buy property or retire in FL, NYC or the TX Gulf coast as everyone else swarms down to those locations.
That would explain why this summer in the uk or wales where I am we saw temperatures over 10 degrees cooler this summer than last summer. Temperatures in wales didn’t rise above 25 degrees this summer and today it’s 12 degrees! That’s 15 degrees cooler than normal.. I think it’s happening now..
The Sahul is the fasting growing region on the planet in terms of population. Nigeria is expected to become the second most populated country on the planet by the end of the century. Any reduction in rainfall in this area will lead to conflict and significant human suffering. We need to start looking at geo-engineering as its pretty clear that the current rate of CO2 reduction will not be enough.
We need to start being open and excepting of each other more than ever right now. What happens when these disasters strike inevitably? We can’t be at each other’s throats. We have to ban together and help one another if we hope to survive.
When it all goes down, and help doesn’t come, nobody will band together. That’s the hard truth about humans, you even see it nearly annually with towns affected by hurricanes having plenty of armed and/or dangerous looters. The only chance we have is stopping it NOW, before it’s too far gone.
Climate change will cause immigration, or climate refugees, to move from the hotter regions to the cooler regions. The real question no one can answer, how will climate change affect food production?
Not just hotter to cooler, also cooler to hotter. At least 500 million people will need to move due to going from mild to near freezing down to below freezing temps, and those already at below freezing will likely need to move closer to food sources as the sea ice will become even thicker which will cut off the northern territories from their current fishing and hunting regions. It's not clear in this video but the "comfortable" habitable belt will shrink by 20-40% very quickly after such an event, and it's highly likely that the belt will be split in the middle by immense heat. Food production is probably the easiest thing to guess at, most regions will need to change their crops, animals and production chains, many will no longer be viable, specifically in the centre of that previously mentioned belt, but also the northern regions. Global food production would probably be cut in half for several decades unless we do massive ecological engineering projects on scales we have never attempted before. This likely wouldn't matter too much though as people would be moving closer to food production anyways, one of the biggest issues right now is just getting the food to the people that need it, starvation could be completely eliminated if we could just manage food transportation and waste better.
well…to the point of starvation. it’s not even a « future » consequence, it already started many countries are facing extreme shortages, a lot of people have died from starvation due to the inaccessibility of food and water due to cost or insufficient supply.
@3:04 I was obsessed with that movie all throughout middle and high school. It's scary how that movie seems to become reality to some degree the more time that passes and still 20 years later, haven't changed those old habits, but rather embraced them and made things even worse now than then.
The most obnoxious thing about climate change is that it's an incredibly easy, damn near effortless problem to fix, but we're so obsessed with fossil fuels that we just can't handle the concept of a world without them. Humanity is soooo fucked, and I am all here for it.
50 years ago, global cooling was going to be the end of humanity. We got busy, started making greenhouse gasses, driving more, paving everything in sight, etc. We solved global cooling. Evidently, we did too good a job.
@@whatbringsmepeace Not OP, and I don't think I can provide a direct link, but searching "Ditlevsen amoc 2025" gave me the paper on Nature titled, "Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation" which is probably what OP is talking about: "In this work, we show that a transition of the AMOC is most likely to occur around 2025-2095 (95% confidence interval)."
Prof Rahmsdorf used to think so too and he knows his stuff on the subject. Now? He's not convinced. It could be 2025. My fear is that the El Nino boosted heat wave projected for 2024 could be the straw that breaks Greenland's back.@@autohmae
I heard when we had the huge BP oil spill in the gulf that stopped the gulf current from circulating. The winter after this happened Europe had record freezing because the warm gulf water was not going up
@johntabor2619 People often forget that the scourge of filthy fossil fuels is not only in their use but also in their production, transport and refining.
@@gohardorgohome6693 Only if you want Europe to freeze to death. The AMOC acts as a kind of thermal regulator for much of Western Europe, and is the reason you don't often see them buried under 20 ft of snow.
If there's no advanced civilization in your past, assume you ARE the advanced civilization. Now, with that in mind, what would you be willing to do to save that civilization from collapse? What should be preserved and passed on? What should we invent before we fall to ensure the success of future generations?? I love videos like this because i think about large questions and these videos help me answer some of them.
I have found evidence (unpublished) that the 8200 Yr Cooling Event was part of an unexpectedly complex series of events which included a 110-year collapse of the AMOC. More recent research shows that in Northern Ireland that collapse caused rapid outcomes including cooler than 0°C every month of the year, beginning immediately after... most likely making all of northern Europe uninhabitable in those times. No crops, no leafy trees for mammal foraging, etc. Scientists should evaluate the surface current coming down the Davis Strait as a potential forcer.
We're just smart enough to screw it up, but collectively too stupid to stop screwing it up.
Nonsense. We have known exactly what kind of actions we can take to mitigate or reverse the damage. The problem is greed. The biggest corporate contributors to this problem would rather make more money now at everyone's expense now and later. This is how all mega-wealthy people think. With more money they think the problem wont affect them or their children, and they're right that they'll be in the best position to survive but their greed makes them blind to the realization that they will still need everyone else around them to make being "rich" mean anything. We could have started making progress towards these problems decades ago, but instead they've sowed doubt, discontent, and apathy.
@@JNArnold you're not wrong that greed is a large factor in this. But Tomtom isn't wrong in that collective stupidity plays a massive role too. The stupidity is sometimes in the individuals, for not understanding the science. But it is also in the collective, as in that we fail to transmit the knowledge that is available to the others in the system. It is further a collective stupidity because no individual can change the system on their own, with the best intentions in the world.
I fully agree with both of you, really. (apart from your point that Tomtom's point was nonsense, so I guess not fully...)
@@JNArnoldyou didn’t refute the op
@@mr-boo I wouldn't exactly call it stupidity (though I also won't fight the term). It's a psychological system to drive the masses towards the desired behaviour, regardless of what the individuals would want without this influence. It was developed during WWI, when the US wanted to enter the war but the US people didn't because they regarded it as a European affair. They called it Public Relations, and it was more effective than they could have hoped. In less than a year, people wanted to fight in the war. Post WWI, the same program was used to boost sales of private corporations, and a few decades later the NSDAP hijacked this exact system for their own political agenda - and if you can get a whole country to be on board with gassing millions of innocent people ... then what can this system not do? Today it is absolutely everywhere, every big corporation has its own PR office.
The worst thing for climate change is that it's exactly the fossil fuel corporations that are some of the most influential and wealthy corporations, and they try to keep their profits up as much as possible, damn the consequences. That's why they boost so much money into climate change denying PR and have so much success with it.
Time old story.
What worries me about this? How difficult it will be to get crops out of drastically changing and/or unpredictable weather. No crops, no meals.
The Earth is greening.
Yeah, crop yields tend to increase with rising temperatures. Just look at all of history! The problem comes with a lack of moisture, which shouldnt be a an issue with warm sea temperatures, but climate is more difficult to predict than warm=better. So who knows.
Rising temps and rising crop yields have a hard limit.
Don't worry, the billionaires will eat just fine.
No crops, no meals -> WORLDWAR - of course. Don't stay naiv, bro.
I work in aviation. I have spoken with air traffic controllers who have, in some cases, worked at the same radar facilities, or control towers their entire career. Aircraft perform best into the wind. This is a fundamental rule of aviation. For this reason, runway changes are implemented to always be utilizing the winds to the best advantage. Crosswinds and tailwinds are not ideal, you want into the wind. The tower controllers in many cases have said, you know, back in the 80s, we used the XYZ runway configs maybe, 3 or 4 times per year. In some cases, it's like the east/west flows, where 99% of the time they're in a north flow, or similar. But they in some cases have said, well, now we run east/west flows half of the time we're operating...it's like, how can this be? Have the winds truly changed THAT much in just 20-30 years??? The answer is undoubtedly yes. When you hear anecdotes from everyday people like this, it really hits you, even more than the charts and hard science/data, IMO.
Thanks for sharing something I would have never even thought about! That's... an uneasy feeling.
I also work in aviation, with ATC and on the airfield at several locations around the world, and I have never heard of this. Magnetic declination changes, sure, but not prevailing winds. What you are describing sounds more like changes to traffic patters due to increased traffic over the last 20-30 years. More planes mean more traffic on limited air and runway space necessitating updated or new approach and departure procedures.
This only shows that there is considerable fluctuations in climate. Those fluctuations have always been naturally occurring.
Which only emphasizes Climate is a googleplex multivariant dynamic system, and that explains why all 37 University employee flat-earth 'climate simulations, especially last month's Hottest Day on Record! *COMPUTER Simulation,* are just Mil.Gov.Sci.Edu institutional 'Gimme Gimme' for Biden Boiling Bunko Bonus Hole Bucks, here in *The Infernocene(tm) Epoch of Magic CO2!©* 😜💵💵💵
Bill McKibben even BOASTS the Greens are a rabbinical religious movement _"...to make people and their freedom (to use energy) smaller."_
This is very important info, especially because ppl do relate to it better, straight from personal experience. It should be part of a video, or something!
I live in Greece. December and January are usually the months with our heaviest rainfall. For the last two years we've had barely any rain during these months. Two, maybe three medium to big rains and that's it. I have been forced to irrigate our freshly planted fruit trees DURING WINTER!
In the early 2000's I was hitchhiking with a man who had a bunch of farmer friends in the south of France. They used to rely on spring rains to grow hay for next winter, the summer being too dry for such growing conditions. When I hitched with him he told me that all of his friends were seeing a shift in the weather patterns towards heavier winter rains and dry springs. This was one of many recent springs where they were forced to let their cattle graze the spring growth instead of baling it for winter, putting them effectively 'into the red' when it comes to feed production. They would all have to buy in hay for winter feeding.
Please study the fundamentals of atmospheric physics and El Nino and La Nina period of warming oceans will intensify the droughts, the heat waves and the flooding events depending on which cycle is striking your area or any other continent on planet Earth Earth is entering a greenhouse gas mass extinction event there has not been seen in nearly 55 million years
I'm 71, born just after WW II. Of course I know my death is approaching - - as is global climate change.
I may have lived thru a "golden age" none of us recognized.
@@veramae4098 Many of us recognized, if you recall.
Sounds like luxury, just 2 or 3 big rains? Not the 2 to 3 hundred big rain events Ive seen this past few months. So much rain its killed plants which is something ive never seen before in 50 years, you can always add more water but you cant take it away.
I'd love to hear more about this honest.
We have half the country that can not even handle basic reality, I feel bad for the future
"prayers" would be cynical, as you are american I guess.
I understand your sorrow. We all need a lot of courage for the future.
Well said
Covid seems to be taking them out
And Americans only consider themselves
More than half. Pretty much all voters. And all those who perception of reality led them to trust "safe and effective". Purebloods can just sit and watch the lemmings run off the cliff.
You start to lose hope when you know that so many smart people have been trying to solve this problem for decades yet nothing fundamentally changes and it only gets worse. 😔
speed up ...and let go what isn't to hold. "Hope for... reward" -> is a sick mindset. You know - one might expect reward from work.... The usual outcome of Hope is desperation. Nobody hears your prayers. Hug yourself as strong as you can.
Radical, desperate, and literal, bloody fight -- basically a global revolution -- is what it would take to change course, and even then it might be too little too late.
What is pretty sure though is that we, as a species, are not yet adult enough to handle a situation like this. Too bad, could've been such a nice story, with a little bit more luck...
its not a problem of knowledge. its a problem of political and economical will.
@@jamestbg8132 Some people (let's pretend not PBS itself...) couldn't even tolerate a previous comment of mine simply stating the obvious fact that meaningful (i.e. radical) global change would require radical change of behavior on a global level.
(Can't repeat what that -- pretty obviously -- entails, because it would surely trigger the same person(s) yet again.)
Makes you wonder "what hope?!" if you're only allowed to attack our hardest crisis ever with wishful thinking, and the same old feel-good, or at best "mildly concerned" narrative that has brought us so much... um, so much what? Lost time, and no improvements to speak of.
So, politeness is what will save us now, right? Well, thanks for that. Much more convenient, indeed.
@@lunakid12 Dont feed your ego. As likely it is you have right in theory, its known that you need to take people with you. Radical change allways takes victims and those who think it is necessary ... mostly turned out to be psychopaths or dictators. We are intelligent enough and we do know what to do, even without risking full clash of civilizations. Our problem are the idiots who follow the people who dont care about future generations and do care more about their own wealth and power, but all in all its the (by far better organized) minority.
im from Nova Scotia (near the 'cold blob') flooding has been insane these last couple years (record rainfall according to atlantic ctvnews). this year has seen 4x as many lightning strikes compared to the average of the last 20 years (26,194 in 2022, 6,266 average for the last 20 years. there is a CBC article but i can't post links in comments)
Sadly, the wealthy and powerful don't "believe" in data and science. Only their opinions and instant internet assessments count.
But it's funny you mention how lightning strikes are 4x as common, because that is *precisely* what happens when extreme temperatures collide under the right circumstances. There are already places on the planet that experience these kinds of "every hour lightning strikes", but obviously, no one lives there.
Maybe there has just been better measuring devices
I'm from Stockholm Sweden and we barely have winters anymore. This summer we have seen an insane amount of rain in a very short period which has caused massive flooding and failed crops.
You can post the title of the page and the site (minus domain) in plain text, for people to search.
Nova Scotia
Storm of the summer brought 23,000 lightning strikes to N.S.
N.S. broke July lightning strike records by a long shot - all because of one storm
Brooklyn Currie · CBC News · Posted: Aug 20, 2023
A more interesting article I found while looking for that one;
A look at Ottawa's summer of heavy rain, tornadoes and lightning strikes
Josh Pringle
CTV News Ottawa
Published Aug. 13, 2023
I also live in Nova Scotia the weather this year has been extreme to say the least. I don't need a measuring device to tell me this is not normal I've lived here my whole life.
In Japan, rising seawater temperatures are increasing the activity of algae-eating fish, leading to an increase in areas where algae are becoming extinct.
The extinction of algae has a major impact on the growth of marine life.
As a result, more and more fishermen are planning to protect and regenerate algae.
As a sailor I've been hearing people talk about losing the Gulf Stream and was curious about how that might happen. Thanks for answering literally every question I might have come up with about the subject. Once again you and your great team have hit a home run. 👏 👏 👏
Keep in mind the Gulf Stream and the AMOC are completely different things, when people talk about this collapsing and freezing Europe they are talking about the AMOC
@1ycan-eu9ji In the video the Gulf Stream was referenced by name.
The oceans need draining before they boil. Water Vapor (WV) is a greenhouse gas as potent as CO2 according to theory. On average there is 50 times as much WV in the atmosphere as CO2.
The fact that it is non -persistent is often mentioned. It doesn't have to be. You can AVERAGE (integrate) the effect. There is on AVERAGE 50 times as much.
@@1ycan-eu9ji Water vapor is doing us in. Water Vapor (WV) is a greenhouse gas as potent as CO2 according to theory. On average there is 50 times as much WV in the atmosphere as CO2.
The fact that it is non -persistent is often mentioned. It doesn't have to be. You can AVERAGE (integrate) the effect. There is on AVERAGE 50 times as much.
@@msimon6808 Maybe you don't realize that as the atmosphere warms it can hold MORE water. That is why CO2 acts as a thermostat. Increase CO2 (GHG) and it will warm and then more water (GHG) will enter the atmosphere, ... Yep. CO2 is the culprit. Thanks for pointing it out.
I will forever remember my Ecology 101 professor in college way back in the early 00s discussing this system and our impact on it, and telling us that every major disruption of the thermohaline circulation is strongly correlated with mass extinction events.
The whole classroom gasped in recognition of just how dire this is, and went silent.
My high school AP physics teacher did a thought experiment like this that left the whole class shaken.
We were calculating the energy input required to phase change ice into water, and then what the water will end up temperature wise with that same continued input.
He applied it to the real with with the artic sea ice, and the arctic sea. The amount of energy we're putting in to the arctic *currently* that's melting ice, increasing the albedo of both water and land, and releasing additional greenhouse gases from the thawing tundra.
Point is, the Arctic ocean will be a balmy 40°C, based on those rudimentary psychic equations, and not including any of those other inputs i listed above.
Should start buying beach front property in Hudson Bay. I'll be a prime beach destination by the end of the century
Sorry you were duped by poorly trained scientists. These are solar affects impacting every other planet in our star system. There are no bbq's taking place on the outer planets, or on Venus and Mercury. And there is literally _nothing_ you or anyone else can do to stop this.
An inconvenient truth
@@TheKamahl07 But, if all of the ice melts, won't your beach property become submerged?
This is also one of the things I strongly remember from Ecology 101 in the early 00s. It was terrifying then and now it is just mind numbing that we are actually approaching this event.
Love the way you broke down the word thermohaline for folks without getting pedantic. Getting folks who are busy with other concerns in life up to speed without getting condescending is going to be key as this all gets more complicated and intrudes into everyone's lives. Well done, as usual. Weathered is a really, really great series that brings fairly detailed science in a way that's understandable to the general public. Thanks for all you do!
Too bad it took 30 years.
2011 was the record low polar ice. The ice ages cycles only started when north and south americans join toguether, blocking the old world stream more centralized like in pacific and indic. So this atlantic shape, creates a piston movement on the stream that creates the cycle warm - cold - warm - cold of the north atlatic and polar oceans, afecting the rest of the planet as well. If you watch closely, its only the north pole that are trully warming up, and not the south pole. The atlantic piston cycle. ;) (just a wild thinking that i had 6 years ago)
Just wanted to give a counter point of view after talking with some climate scientists/oceanographers who study the AMOC directly (shoutout to Dr. Penny Holliday!). The Ditlevson & Ditlevson paper is really the only recent one that is predicting AMOC collapse this century (with a 95% confidence level which in of itself is suspicious given the unpredictably of chaotic systems like an AMOC collapse). The IPCC estimated it very unlikely to happen this century based on the scientific consensus (single digit percent level as Rahmstorf hoped). The disconnect comes from Ditlevson & Ditlevson using a novel (and controversial) analysis technique. North Atlantic (NA) Sea Surface Temperature (SST) has been used as a proxy for AMOC strength before and the usual protocol is to subtract the Global Mean SST to take out seasonal variability and the direct impact of global warming on SST. To account for polar amplification (more warming in the Arctic relative to the mean), the group subtracted 2 times the Global Mean SST from the NA SST instead. This has the effect of exaggerating the variability and decline of the AMOC and is what gives you the downward slope graph shown in the video. By just subtracting the 1 times the Global Mean, you don't see this decline. The paper also neglects to include any of the direct measurements of the AMOC strength that we have been taking continuously since 2004. The measurements showed a slight decline in the 2000s but the AMOC slowly grew in strength in 2010s (likely just due to natural variability).
This is not to say the paper is wrong. It's a very sophisticated analysis for the most part and can still tell us some interesting things. But the science on AMOC collapse is in no way settled. We have to wait and see.
This is also not to downplay the importance of an AMOC collapse. If the paper turns out to be right or if we don't bring down emissions this century, an AMOC collapse would be absolutely devastating for the exact reasons outlined in the video. All in all, an excellent video and an important discussion but take it with a grain of salt. (shamelessly replying to the top comment to increase visibility lol)
Are they talking about the Gulf Stream?
@@jonathankerr4859 AMOC
Often wondered as a Scot why scotlands warming isnt happening...
Now I know...cold blob proximity.
Only we could miss warning entirely and go straight from cold to ice age 😂
@user-uk8tl3xy9e theres three measures of weather in Scotland
Pure Baltic - very cold
Baltic - Cold
Taps aff - wishful thinking in summer.
Winters are milder generally but its simply a different form of cold.
Not noticed sea levels as its a poor bastard who gets into the sea in Scotland. You have to count your toes afterwards.
If this blob is going to cool Scotland again my dream that once spain is too hot the Isle of Harris becomes the new Ibiza will sadly not happen. :)
As an Irishman this video freaked me the hell out. Maybe all those British retiree's moving to Spain are on to something.
Ouch!
Ice ages are caused by the Milankovich cycle
Some have been saying it for decades.
This is why Day After Tomorrow is my favorite natural disaster movie.
Having been a small fruit grower - blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, elderberries, highbush cranberries, gooseberries, plus a wild grove of mulberries - I have watched in 20 years a shift of a full hardiness zone in our area. The problem is that it's not a "clean" increase, we still get oddball very late freeze events in spring that two years ago caused a LOT of my fruits to have substantially decreased yields, both due to freeze damage and it being too cold for pollinators for nearly two weeks right in the early spring blooming season.
Plus I've seen an increase in various insect pests, and a massive and unpredictable increase in fungal diseases. It's going to be worse with forestry and tree crops, as these changes may mean that you have a disease or pest that suddenly invades areas with mature trees, wiping them out. For example, they found out that cold winters can massively reduce emerald ash borer populations, but we've had enough warmer winters that even the Great Lakes States are getting hammered. Ash trees may become extremely rare in the United States due to this.
So this is a huge problem. I cannot understand why so many farmers are voting for politicians that are blocking any steps to deal with climate change, because whether it's farmers in the Colorado River Basin (20 year mega-drought that may just be ending, though it's more likely a reprieve not a pardon) or farmers having to plant more southern varieties of blueberries that are inferior to the more northern ones in taste, but can survive extended heat waves better (look up Rabbiteye versus Northern Highbush Blueberries), farmers can see climate change in action over half a lifetimes of farming (20 years).
As an example of how devastating this can be to farmers and crops, it's not just having to change Blueberry species, but you end up pulling up or losing mature bushes that could have lived 50 years and had over 20 years of optimal yields, and the new pushes can take 5 years to return to full yields. Assuming no drought, because freshly planted/younger bushes have less of a root system, and are more susceptible to water shortages. Look how devastating a workplace injury or layoff that causes a family to lose months of income can be - and then consider surviving a five year financial hit.
There are dozens of other examples, and it's not just in the United States but all over the world agriculture will require massive, rapid changes to cope with this. Then when you have overpumping of aquifers, like in the Colorado River Basin, you end up with a collapse when that water becomes prohibitively expensive, if the dry period continues.
Look up "food riots". Drought and famine have been events that have ended civilizations. Plus famine gives you more disease, and nations go to war to make sure "their" people don't starve. You've got all four horsemen covered...
I couldn't agree more. Problem is also that farmers or farm companies are also big poluters and industrial farming is responsable for too much poluters on planet (people).
We need to lower population in soft way or nature will make it the hard way.
Plus we need to go on sustainable way of production of food and with all other industries.
But this will not happen until gloriefied capitalism is rooling the world.
@@ueasy1actually, due to aging populations across most of the developed world, scientists are now predicting that the the global population will reach its peak and then begin falling around the year 2050.
Effects on the productiveness of fisheries & general aquaculture worries me too, esp. for island nations like ourselves & many of our neighbours down here? Very high-population-density regions like SE Asia are highly dependent on marine sources for food security too.
@@beantreatsThat’s too long, we need to start now
You bring up so many good points. Climate policy is economic policy. If you are concerned about the United States and the global economy, then you should be voting for climate protective policies and political representatives that support them.
"The planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE! We're going away folks, pack your sh..." - George Carlin
What's scary is that the governments of the world know about this and they aren't doing nearly enough to make change
The government doing something can only make it worse. And there are governments working closely with powerful and evil people who are using this climate change to scare everyone into total submission. Dont be one of them.
There are no governments. There are corporations.
Gotta get those gains. Its truly what will be our demise. Capitalism and greed.
@lailahreich3205 The crazy thing is people consider humans to be so intelligent. Its not a very intelligent move to know what you're doing is terrible and bad for your survival, yet continue to do it. No other animal on this planet would do that except for humans, yet we're so smart.
You trust either government of companies to sale an actual solution to this when they can just do their ESG BS to give off the appearance of it??? 😂😂 cmon now.
Instead they create the crisis funded by your money and sell you the solution
"For years, we operated under the belief that we could continue consuming our planet's natural resources, without consequence. We were wrong. I was wrong."-Vice President Becker, _The Day After Tomorrow_
If only humanity were a more intelligent species.
About as smart as yeast in a bowl of sugar water. :D
Intelligence isn't the problem, empathy for others is.
And more empathetic given that without basic welfare people will never switch from cynicism to environment awareness
@@markmuller7962 Exactly.
@@Someaddress555sintelligence and empathy coincide because it takes critical thought to imagine yourself in other people's shoes.
As a Dutch person I am used to mild weather in general, mild summers, mild winters. Although when I was a kid in the 1980s the winters in my country were much more harsh than these days. People here love ice skating on natural ice. This has been done for so many years on canals, lakes and even rivers at time. In the province of Friesland, if weather conditions allowed, we organized a 200km ice skating tour across 11 cities (also known as the "11 cities tour", or "Elfstedentocht" in Dutch. The last time we could do this, and the whole country was sitting in front of the tv watching this event was in January 1997. So imagine, it has been 26 years ago that this thing could be organized. The only plus side of the Gulf-stream slowing down or stopping is that we would be able to skate more often. But in general I doubt it will be good for Western Europe if this ocean cooling/warming effect will diminish.
deze fenomenen is niet zo speciaal, aangezien het vroeger gebeurde maar de mens nog in haar prille begin was gaat men nu moord en brand schreeuwen ofzo? kom zeg! als ons voor ouders dit konden overleven waarom wij niet? hier moet ik hard om lachen! de mens en hun luxe leven is in gevaar! 🙄🤑
Wow! That city tour must have been fanstastic. Here in Ottawa, Canada, we have the Rideau canal. In the '80 we could skate the whole 7 km until we arrived at Dow's lake. In the past years, there is only a small stretch of ice that they can open to skate as it requires constant waterings to try to make a safe thickness, and year after year we see the number of ice skating days diminish. In 2023 I think it was open 11 days. We are losing this wonderfull winter fun.
Interesting story. Thank you for sharing it with us. I have a pond in western ny. 10 years ago it froze enough to skate, but I haven't been able to skate in the last 5 winters. The weather is definitely changing. Climate change occurs over thousands of years so its impossible to tell yet.
I don't think it will get colder like they said, the tendency is actually to get hotter if you look at other interglacial periods of earth history, especially without the artic ice cap. The higher latitudes should expect temperatures to rise really fast in the next few years. Your testimony only confirms it. The climate will be similar to earth 3 to 4 million years ago.
@@TheNewCarryTrade no you are demonstrating the Krueger d u n n i n g effect. Humans are causing the rapid warming of the planet with tremendous amounts of carbon dioxide emissions add roughly 37 billion tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year third year after year after year after year after year. Was becoming less pronounced as the global population was smaller requiring less and less energy every year energy comes from the burning of fossil fuels planet Earth is actually in a greenhouse gas mass extinction event you may not experience the ferocity the storms in heat waves and drought that your children and grandchildren will experience. A high emissions scenario by 2100 will only leave 1 billion humans how to survive on planet Earth. Most humans between the Equator and the 36 chicory latitudes will either die off or migrate North there will be a huge complex over extremely short Water Supplies or famine. This is the reason play all carbon emissions need to come to a stop or at least reduce the output to a level that all forests and all oceans can absorb safely. But I'm not hopeful that's going to happen
My wife’s grandfather is a lobsterman in Maine. He has been doing this for 30+ years. He says the fishing has shut down this year.
98% of all snow and king crabs died off from a marine heat wave in the bearing Straits. It killed the crab industry!
Keep throwing garbage in the sea.
Your wife should be lucky its her grandfather... because if it was her father - or her brother - or you - or her son, they'd be in for a rude awakening over the next couple years.
Data says the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation current is weakening faster than we thought. Europe is going to cool massively, very quickly, sea levels will rise, ice will melt, waters will cool marginally cool as ice melts off, locally, then temps will rise. These rising temps will impact lobster populations.
The lobster industry in Maine is going to end except for very regulated fishing. The populations will not support it.
It's not so much the climate CHANGE - both we and ecosystems can adapt - it's the SPEED in which its happening, reducing the ability for that adaptation.
We're not ready. Culturally. Politically. Or economically.
Buckle up.
@user-el5yw1er2j it'll melt then cause an ice age in the northern hemisphere. The earth will reset itself.
@@twincam103 Not in time to save human cold-water industries, bud.
First thing is to get governments to understand that YOU CAN'T EAT MONEY.
It's the Wall Street crowd who need that lesson.
@@deepashtray5605 ...and Wall Street owns your government.
@@deepashtray5605 yes
I don't think capitalism will find a solution for this problem.
So the problem will get worse until capitalism will disappear.
As a Norwegian who just had his first child this truly scares me. We have always heard of what would happen if it collapses. It was told almost as a scary story around the bonfire. But that its becoming a reality within my lifetime is truly sobering. I think we as a country are about to have a wake up call as it slams in our face.
I can try to help prevent it, but as a citizen... As a father.
I have no idea how to prepare.
Don't let it scare you.
The earth is fine. It's a dynamic planet where sometimes it rains a lot and sometimes not. Sometimes it's unusually hot and swings the other way. Sometimes it's calm and sometimes it storms so bad it kills.
That's how it always has been and will continue to be. Enjoy your new baby and don't lose sleep over the climate. They want you scared to extract money from you, to save you from an imaginary problem.
I just hope my family and I are gone before anything major happens
My parents are in their 70s I don't think they would survive
I'm in my 40s I feel that my generation will see the beginning and be the 1st to try to adapt and survive.
Are you noticing any climate changes?
@@lennonwilson6407 yea ... the damn heat here in Texas... seems like every 10 or 15 yrs it gets hotter...I remember back in the 80s you actually wanted to go out and play now it's just miserable insufferable heat..plus I have inte to leave this future "death valley" and leave somewhere up north or just maybe to another country.
All we can do is teach our children well, teach them to grow and respect nature, and to love and care for one another, much love from father to father!
Stefan Rahmstorf is one if the leading scientists working on the AMOC so I take note of what he says. The paper sighted at the end with it's alternative explanation for the Cold Blob does not account for the marked rise in sea temperature off the US East Coast which models predict for a slowdown of the AMOC.
Hi Pete, good points here. We really felt that a nod to the evolving nature of science was important. Stefan is featured heavily but there are peer reviewed papers that disagree with his findings and that's part of a healthy scientific process.
Vibes of Cosmos... learn where you are.
Papers get cited, not "sighted".
Fake news
30 years ago in school it was called the Thermo-haline circulation belt. Our instructors warned about the implications of it shutting down. It's a scary thing, especially for Europe.
i think its scary for all world. its just Atlantic ocean is more eemm important for research than rest of them. this will probably change flows in all oceans, everything is connected.
It's not shutting down. Don't be duped into any sort of panic
@@soakupthesunman Really, what makes you think it isn't?
@@jadezahreddine5379 Nobody has to prove it isn't shutting down. The onus is on those predicting it will shut down, to prove their claims. So far, every climate catastrophe prediction has proven to be wrong. ALL of 'em.
@@soakupthesunman But there must be at least 500 books that can be written and sold on that hype. Think of all the conferences and grant money colleges can get. Like the Roswell alien conference were all the rage, pre internet.
Its scary to see the whole scientific comunity putting the likelyhood of the scary tipping points closer and closer… the fact that I still have to convince many people around me that this is real and we will all suffer the consequences, triggers me even more
just let the simpletons be, they'll come around when they're ready
To be fair the earth changes all the time. And we have 70 years to adapt. When it starts getting too hot to grow one crop we grow another. One area that was great for fishing may just move down a bit.
No one is convinced because your science is bs .. the earth changes you can't stop that with solar panels or wind turbines
@@Chris-rg6nmoh good. Glad this is actually pretty minor.
Quick, raise taxes! Funny how these scientists and politicians choose to buy oceanfront property
I could tell you one that happened over 20 years ago...my dad has been a bayman his whole life. In the late 90's all the lobsters died and my family went broke- my parents had to do everything they could to get together and work that issue out. It was sad the day my father got rid of his lobster boat. He still digs clams and hes almost 70.
FYI he works in the Long Island Sound and out of Cold Spring Harbor.
It's a shame because in reality humanity is a Gargantuous family, but we don't operate as one, so we won't figure it out together like your family did. The "solution" will be individualistic or "tribal" at most
This program YT is another yarn we are doomed our goose is cooked 😢 with a spicy add on swim with the sharks . lobsters wee over fished in many regions so now the lobsters are trapped young in lobster pots and kept and fed fish for months inside the lobster pots and no word from Irish lobster fisher men that lobsters are fished ready cooked or ready frozen in the pots 😂
This program on RUclips forgot to mention there is a expental growth in numbers and size of underwater volcanos as earth splits apart 😮 in the mid Atlantic ridge adding extra heat to north and south Atlantic oceans deep waters . Without inputting these extra heat input numbers this program was just another spooky bed time tall story😮 for the gullible 😂 who will agree to pay the Carbon tax 😢 to the wizard guy behind the curtain too save thier bacon 😅
@@shiningirisheyes Thank you petro bot, I look forward to tomorrow's spam where you blame it on the sun or Earth coming out of an ice age. I can never tell which but it's always fun seeing which zero evidence excuse you paste on shuffle.
@@shiningirisheyesWhat is fascinating to me is how efficient all these underwater volcanos are heating up the Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Arctic Ocean, and the Pacific Ocean at the same time. And it's crazy how they are all so silent like sunshine, no big explosions or earthquakes or magma flows or steam or anything. It's crazy too how those underwater silent volcanos seem to be making air temperatures even hotter than the oceans.
Remember who did this. When you’re hungry, eat the rich
And they didn't even mention the Beaufort Gyre... a much more intense modification of the AMOC that will dump more fresh water than is contained in the great lakes into the North Atlantic. This usually happens within 1-2 years once it starts and can last for 20 years. It's a known northern hemisphere cooling factor. By not adding this to their story they've left out a huge factor that could cause that "2060" date to look more like 2025.
That's horrifying.
@@MWGCotah Exactly right! Unfortunately...
Can you imagine how immensely powerful hurricanes will become if the cooler north Atlantic waters stop flowing south?
You're already seeing it. 2 years ago, we had 4 cat 4 hurricanes at the same time.
@@ronaldflint681 Check the physics. Warmer surface temps create higher winds and stronger storm systems.
@@ronaldflint681 They are! That's why Allstate, Farmer's, Bankers, Lexington, and AAA are ALL cancelling insurance policies in Florida. DERP
No need to imagine. Hurricanes were more destructive and killed more people when Co2 levels were low. This is a documented fact.
@@ronaldflint681 I disagree with you, and so do several multi-billion dollar players. You are a random person on YT. Where is your proof?
It also means the record warm oceans we are seeing now will get exponentially hotter as all that tropical heat will have no where to go. If the oceans die the land dies.
Massive global release of billions of tons of methane will see to that. Another Permian mass-extinction event.
And then we get ultra strong hurricanes and the world is f**ked!
There is no excess heat! Just excess stupidity and lack of education!
2011 was the record low polar ice. The ice ages cycles only started when north and south americans join toguether, blocking the old world stream more centralized like in pacific and indic. So this atlantic shape, creates a piston movement on the stream that creates the cycle warm - cold - warm - cold of the north atlatic and polar oceans, afecting the rest of the planet as well. If you watch closely, its only the north pole that are trully warming up, and not the south pole. The atlantic piston cycle. ;) (just a wild thinking that i had 6 years ago)
This happens every 12, 000 or so years as part of a regular cycle. Modern humans have been through at least 16 of such cycles. Our neanderthal brethren went through even many more.
Will not be easy, but it is survivable.
That cold spot could be the stagnation of the water currents in AMOC. When currents are moving the cold water gets pushed around, but when they slow down the cold water stays in place and gets colder and colder.
Well that's exactly what it is of course except that "stagnation" isn't really the word that's used (same concept though). The water flow has slowed like you said so some more heat is staying to the southwest (you clearly see the Warm Blob) instead of flowing up to the northeast and warming the Cold Blob as fast as it used to. That water is simply running down hill of course (well except that 85% of it is wind driven, unrelated to AMOC). The bit running down hill is filling in the dents left by the deep water heading south of course.
Wow, thanks for repeating exactly what the video says!
My only question about that is why is this happening when thermodynamics dictates that if anything, that blob should be warming like everything else. The cold water should be trying to spread out underneath the warm water rather than pooling up in one place.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying that this is an effect of increasing global temperatures. I'm more just kinda confused by it, since it kinda defies physics. Ocean currents are driven by convective processes, so if you add more heat to the hot side of the system if anything it should intensify, as the heat is trying to move into the colder areas so that the system can achieve homeostasis. But this is the opposite of what we're actually seeing.
@@VestedUTuber….as ice from Greenland melts, the meltwater is freshwater and less dense than the sea water so it floats on top of the more dense sea water. This cold water patch is amplified over time and eventually slows the transport of warm water from the south. Eventually, this can result in an Ice Age. This is explained at 4:20.
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Except that freshwater doesn't _stay_ freshwater, it eventually mixes with the seawater, and quite quickly for that matter. Plus, if it was just sea melt, the cold blob's concentrations would be at it's highest around Greenland's coastlines, particularly in areas where there are actively melting ice shelves. Instead we're seeing it primarily concentrated in the middle south of Greenland's southernmost tip, so either something's dragging all that freshwater into the blob quicker than the ice is actually melting or there are other factors involved.
James Burke revealed this in his series "After the Warming", presented in the late 80's.
Climate migration leading to conflict is the most worrisome in my opinion. Subsaharan Africa, South and Central Asia, China, and parts of Europe are likely to be far less habitable. This amounts to more than 25% of the global population. We humans are not very welcoming to migrants now and the numbers are nowhere near what they will be in 100 years.
Climate migration from state to state will happen here. The Midwest will become inundated with climate refugees from coastal areas and the hotter southern tier of states. Where will the breadbasket grow traditional crops with the influx of that many people? We are going to have to get over our fixation with beef, wheat and corn and start growing crops that need less processing, less space and less intensive farming practices. Field corn is really of little use as food without turning it into cattle feed, corn meal and corn syrup. It is too low in nutrition to feed us as is. Refined white flour is labor and space intensive to produce. Cattle simply take up too much room and too many resources, as well as releasing a lot of methane. We will all need a vegetable patch and a few chickens scratching around if we survive the collapse of the ecosystem.
its joever
The prospect of Scandinavia becoming 8 degrees cooler than it is now-that’s scary.
Mark and Jenny you are both spot on. Good observations.
You know there was a time with magnitudes more green house gasses and yet the dinosaurs did fine. Stop the doom and gloom, it's just a power grab
thank you for clarifying that the AMOC =/= the gulf stream and that if the AMOC slows the gulf stream won't disappear (unlike some recent clickbaity news articles)
Yes I agree! The confusion between these things has led me to question the source of the news
If people in England or Scandinavia worry about the Gulf Stream, they aren't thinking about the direction of water surfacer flow in the North Atlantic, they are worried about the warmth it brings. The people who have complained about "AMOC ≠ Gulf Stream" have been more clickbaity than the articles they have criticized.
It’s enraging how many people REFUSE to accept that experts who spend their entire lives studying this issue, but somehow the morons out there dismiss the experts, because, you know, they know better 🤬🙄🤬
Seeng people still completely clueless on global warming is like seeing a tribe that had no contact with civilization somewhere in the Amazon rain forest... hard to believe such a thing is even still possible. Some people must have lived under a rock the last half century.
Which "experts" are you referring to? There are plenty of experts that disagree with much of the current climate scare. If you search for them you can hear what they have to say, but because they don't have huge financial support like the scientist backed by big corporations with agenda's like say BP or Ghislain Maxwell they aren't heard from as much. Or like PBS a gov funded program listening to scientist with gov. grants to study climate change. Now why would any bureaucracy want to spread data that would make it's job obsolete? After all the gov. has spent $1 million to test and see if cocaine would make quail more sexually active. Many of these "experts" pushing this agenda have interesting benefactors.
For example I mentioned BP, did you know BP created the term "carbon footprint" in a campaign to clean up their image after they just had the famous environmental disaster with their offshore oil rig.
I'm all about keeping the planet clean. Always have been. I have come to learn though if there is a way to exploit something, whether it is power or money, someone will use it for their own benefit. The cost on others be damned. Follow the money and you will find answers.
Remember this. Most of the people you see wandering about day to day are really thick. Truly, incredibly thick. And too stupid to realize how thick they are.
ia habit is worn to apiese our beliefs
it's already happening. today it's 24/12/2023, Alps, 600mt of altitude, 16 centigrades at night, no ski, no snow, no freeriding, it's over
this video should be a required watch
Ice core samples do show that just before the last Ice Age, there was a warming, that became a "run away warming" and then suddenly, the temperature dropped by as much as 6º within two years, then it rose again, up and down, extreme highs to extreme lows, within two or three years. After a few cycles, less than twenty years altogether, the temperature dropped drastically and didn't came back up again, until the Ice Age was over. It was theorized at that that the warming had caused the collapse of the ocean currents as you have described.
That was the theory that was pseudo used for the movie “day after tomorrow”. They of course bastardized it but still
Ask I pressed submit, she mentioned the movie lol
I suppose pre ice age man cooking their sabre tooth tiger steaks were to blame for global warming prior to the last ice age.
If you look carefully at the graphs from ice core samples that show temperature, CO2 and methane, you will see that in EVERY CASE where there was a spike in temperature, the first thing to rise was not CO2, it was Temperature, followed by CO2.@@stevenhull5025
I have been reading everyone’s responses till I came across your comment. Finally someone who I can agree with because it’s so true.
If you look carefully at the graphs of ice core information that shows temperature, CO2, and methane, you will see that every time there is up ward movement, it ALWAYS begins with temperature, followed by CO2, and then methane. I think the Sun is the primary driver. It is well known that the more sunspot, the more energy the sun is putting out; and that the "Little Ice Age," as its called, from 1300 to 1850 AD, was the result of the lack of sunspots, that is now called the Maunder Minimum. We are now in a sunspot cycle that was expected to be on the low side, but is much higher than expected. @@kennethsnyder9236
Living in one of your “riskiest regions” of the u.s. I have a front row seat to climate change, yet we are continually amazed our neighbors and politicians can deny anything is amiss. We can no longer deny to ourselves that we need to leave for our health and quality of life is suffering even though our income is tied to the area as well as our families. My anxiety cannot take hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, drought, heat domes, power failures, and now wildfire especially in our elder years like we are now. This is getting worse each and every year. I have actually encouraged my grown children to escape if they possibly can because I love them so much. Escape will be harder and harder as time marches on there will be nowhere to go but staying here is not an option.
I feel for you. I am 61, but I am fortunate enough to be in Michigan, where the impacts of climate change are not as bad.
Where do you want your kids to escape too, so I can send my kids with them I am 63 so by the time 2060 arrives when the AMOC stops I will be long gone but my daughter and especially my granddaughter will be here to face the collapse
I live in eastern Pennsylvania and the last couple years I have noticed that are growing seasons has changed its about a month earlier than normal. I do gardening at home and I've noticed it in my garden and flowers and the budding on trees
I realise you are a US company but it would be great to cover the whole world, including Southern hemisphere in your maps/predictions. We're concerned about this in Australia as well. I particularly wanted to see about the monsoon belt dropping but Australia was cut off the map.
Search OECD tipping points, their 2022 report has the maps for shift in rainfall and temperature for AMOC collapse plus links to papers.
Yes! Also be interested to know what's happening to the ocean currents around Antartica and how they'll affect the Southern Hemisphere.
@@OldOneTooth thanks!
It's where it is because it's on the equator, it ain't going anywhere unless Earth's axis of rotation changes
It has a lot to do with Greenland melting, and dumping vast quantities of cold, fresh water into the ocean in one place relatively quickly (at least on a geological timescale).
@pequodrequiem681 did either of you actually watch the video? They talked about ice melting in the north Atlantic
Greenland is melting largely from below due to volcanic activity.
@@buzzblitzer750there are zero volcanoes on greenland, read a book 🤦♀️
It's a natural cycle.
@@RealMTBAddict No it's not. It's manmade and denying that is stupid.
Never even remotely I’d be living through and witnessing the first part of the 6th extinction. I believe it will go much faster than people realized due to a domino effect of interdependent systems collapsing.
And the Darwin Award goes to ✉️ …. Homo sapiens! Congratulations 🎉
An excellent presentation. Mankind bringing disaster first upon the world's ecosystems, plants and animals, and then of course upon itself. We did well there!
It's all lies. And we are part of natures eco system, she created us
Only man’s insufferable ego would lead him to think he’s is the omnipotent force behind this change. Humanity treads water in a sea of dynamic and powerful forces. Civilizations have risen and collapsed MANY times more than our global-elite controlled narrative would have us believe. C02 has extremely limited greenhouse effect over 400 ppm and we know that C02 has been many times higher than that over the millennia, perhaps due to dinosaurs driving very large SUVs.
*_'MANITY!!_*
The oceans are doing it. Water Vapor (WV) is a greenhouse gas as potent as CO2 according to theory. On average there is 50 times as much WV in the atmosphere as CO2.
The fact that it is non -persistent is often mentioned. It doesn't have to be. You can AVERAGE (integrate) the effect. There is on AVERAGE 50 times as much.
The oceans must be drained.
How do you know they are the hottest temps? Ever heard of the 400 year cycles?
I love when scientists just say fuck it and name something “cold blob” 🤘🏼
We still have tons of work to do on educating the general population. The other day, I just had a conversation where a guy said that carbon is good for the environment and that the hole in the ozone layer was a good thing because "even a fireplace has a flute! Hot air needs someplace to go!" It was very disheartening hearing someone my age have that loose of a grasp on science.
Thanks for that comment. Yes, it is really sad. Sleep well America!
(sorry, just assumed it was US, I live in the US so I can completely relate. But perhaps this is a global phenomenon as well.. god, I hope not!)
My biggest concern is the regional variation of global warming. Too many pundits talk about global temperature instead of regional changes. It is well known that the southern hemisphere and the tropics haven't risen anywhere near as much as the higher latitudes of the northern hemisphere especially the artic. In the artic tundra the permafrost contains as much methane hydrate as all the fossil fuels burned in the last 150 years. If methane is released from the permafrost it holds more atmospheric heat 20X, than co2, as much as water vapor. I've never seen a timeline on how much temperature rise will release how much methane. Back to regional variation. Most of the worlds ecosystems/ vegetation zones have a huge shift in seasonal rainfall with dry seasons being part of the cycle. Agriculture depends on these specific rainfall patterns. We in the US especially east of the Mississippi have more moderate high and low range.. The other fear is for Asia. 8 majors rivers come from snow melt of the Himalaysian mountains. If there was only a 20% drop, China, India, Pakistan and Southeast Asia would suffer lower food production. But like you said changes in the AMOC is also a big threat.
I don't know if you knew this but the big concern if AMOC slows a lot is that it might well alter the tropical monsoon, possibly reducing rain for India & Southeast Asia. The cooling of Europe is more certain but the tropical monsoon possibility would have more negative effect than a couple degrees of Europe cooling, if that monsoon change does happen and reduces the rain on land.
I’ve seen more storms/tornadoes/flooding in Appalachia already. Isn’t that ocean current a trade route too? If winds/infrastructures get altered/broken we will experience gaps in power/internet/trade which our economy relies on. Theres so many consequences it’s terrifying.
The UK has been stuck in this cold blob all month,
Literally no direct sun light for a month in Scotland,
just a thick blanket of cloud cover.
As we share the north poles Jet stream (cold blob)
I actually went for a Swim in the north sea last week, as it was a weird warm day
But still dark skys, but first day with no wind.
Your heat wave mid summer still scorched the top of the thick Dark blanket of cloud.
Giving an eerie glow and temperatures above the teens°
I'm in Michigan and I've spent my entire life outdoors fishing and hunting. I've been watching the weather since the early 1980's. One of my favorite activities is ice fishing. In the 1980's and 90's we could drive our cars on the great lakes. The lakes froze by mid December and thawed in late March. The coastguard had to use ice breakers to open the shipping lanes. In the early 2000's the lakes didn't freeze until the 2 week of January and thawed in late Febuary. The past 10 years the lakes barely freeze. No major snow storms in SE Michigan in 20 years. Nothing in comparison to the 80's and 90's. It still gets cold and it still snows but not like it used to.
If the AMOC stops, power, internet or trade will the least of your concern. A temperature drop of 15 °C can be expected in Europe. This alone will wreck havoc globally.
Not the only issue we are dealing with. The Earth's magnetic field is exponentially weakening as time goes on. The EMF acts as a protective shield in relation to Solar and cosmic energies/events.
As the EMF gets weaker and weaker, it becomes more and more probable that a strong Solar storm (very strong solar CME, or multiple moderate ones) will take out the currently fragile electrical grids. If that happens, that means a complete collapse of this civilization.
Indeed, we are already seeing in this past few years, minor to moderate Solar events sparking auroras further and further south, and causing significant geomagnetic storms, when even 20 to 30 years ago, these events wouldn't have done either of these. Again, because of how fast the earth's magnetic field (EMF) is weakening.
But this is not as well known or talked about because well, it is scarier and you can't blame humans for it. It is out of our control completely and utterly.
One day in the not so far future, most people will wake up to red skies and with electricity mysteriously shutting off everywhere. Of course, people will not know this is a universal occurrence because there will be no internet, no tv news, no ham radio (unless they EMP proof their systems ahead of time), etc.
But as time goes on, and the electricity doesn't come back on for anyone, and as the grocery stores etc get ransacked, people will realize how dire the situation really is, and then mass panic will set in.
The smarter people will quietly leave the city and near city areas and head for the woods and natural places to hide and to try to live off the land again. But how many actually have the skills and knowledge to do so?
Meanwhile all the psychopaths and sociopaths who have always dreamt of living life without any consequences to their actions will come out of the woodworks to try to take advantage of the situation and seek to become petty gang leaders/chieftains raiding on other people and their supplies. Murdering, stealing, raping, and doing whatever they like.
I live in Germany and really prefer not to experience Canada like weather, as my latitude actually should experience if it weren’t for the warming effect of AMOC…
Time to move to Western Canada eh!
@@d.g.rohrig4063 There's only so much room on the northern west coast of North America, and they also have much bigger forest fires than here in Germany.
but there still is the warmer temperature in general, in summers it might not get as cold. also, i prefer colder winters (not wantig to say that I want the amoc to collapse) because then finally some of the thermophilic neobiota and neophytes don't spread here.
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Is BC still burning?
My concern about this situation is that whilst the media and governments play lip service to change, they're ultimately more concerned with profits, which drives consumption, and so far from seeing any changes in emissions, we see that year on year they rise.
It’s not just politicians, everybody is paying lip service to it. NOBODY is prepared to change their way of life; the only way is for the world, meaning globally and in unison to change - because some won’t do it while others do not; people are too selfish in that regard and won’t sacrifice unless everybody does.
In the UK with Covid restrictions, the law was changed and people followed it. Only with laws, regulations and enforcement will people change because we need to be made to do it, we are too self centred to do it ourselves.
I agree, but without leadership people won't change, they might resent and oppose it, but it's simply not happening; and in the meanwhile yet more oil rigs and coal mines are opened, I never realised until recently the scale of coal mining and fracking in the US, let alone China, (who everyone loves to pass the blame onto.) Year on year more things are unnecessarily wrapped in plastic, almost all clothes are made of nylon, people have little choice in these matters, and it's all to benefit oil companies. Not that even they will ultimately benefit, but they're too blinded by greed and power to see their own evil stupidity, so they, with complicit media and governments keep the people as ignorant and stupid as they are.@@techyd8411
Well… unless we are prepared to let billions of people die across the world. All it will be is lip service. At the most we will get a turtles pace of change.
Consumption is actually dropping thanks to low wage growth, inflation and increasing interest rates
@@techyd8411 shifting the blame to regular, everyday people with all the concerns but no power is not it. This isn't about personal responsibility. It's about holding corporations and government accountable.
Troubling is how Americans especially have this sense of exceptionalism, dismissing climate change with the "we'll just adapt" flip of the head. And this coming from people who had actwo year temper tantrum because they were asked to wear a mask in order to adapt to a virus.
I am glad to hear about the cold blob. This is the first time that I have heard so much about it. The behavior of our marine life is very apparent this year.
World got a record heat wave,
Scotland got a month of no direct sunlight.
Just a Thick blanket of cloud.... For a Month.
We are sharing north poles cold Jet stream.
Climate change is b.s.
It’s all about controlling your money, what you think and where you go and how to still more of your money.
I fear the younger generations. We're leaving them a mess and a much harder life than we've had.
Its even worse than that, we are dooming human civilisation to collapse within the lifetime of someone born today.
Nah. We are about to be overtaken by a.i. biggest change in human history ever. Bigger than the discovery of fire. They will be fine.
This area is colder because that is where all the icebergs start out when they melt off the glaciers in Greenland.
That's why it's getting colder as the melting is speeding up.
Noone is really going to take this seriously unless you stop the rockets and cut back on unnecessary air traffic.
I'm most concerned about my child's future and mass starvation and suffering. It's becoming agonizing to be surrounded by folx that are seemingly unwilling to look at what's happening or do anything to change it.
9 out of 10 people are just animals caged in a human body. Deal with It.
You can not change it, only get ready for it. People have survived the same pattern numbers of times in the past or "we" would not be here.
There has been starvation and suffering for many years throughout many parts of our world. Why suddenly the concern???
I think the greatest impacts are whenever people have volunteered to repair or replace native ecosystems so that nature has a chance of recovering, and to turn farms into ecosystems so that they can sustain themselves better, and when plastics in our oceans and streams are removed permanently. This ecosystem, as imperiled as it is, is also resilient as it is a fractal ecosystem, made out of countless smaller ecosystems, comparable to the Mandelbrot set. Currently, for instance, four dams in the Klamath river in California and Oregon are being removed for fish passage, and the ecosystems which once were will be rebuilt.
Good post! And it reminds me of how bad I felt for those people who have been successfully planting baby corals for several years now, only to have ocean temps reach record highs this summer and bleach them all. Hopefully some coral species will be resilient enough to recover, but still, I'd be in tears if I were them (and they probably were).
You hope you can rebuild them. In reality corporate broke them make them pay to fix it and they will stop 🛑 screwing things up so the bottom line is profitable. But until they pay for their mistakes themselves nothing will change. When the military industrial complex can't make money on war, war will stop. We are just a herd of animals the push where they want us to go and what to buy so they can live any way they want.
we will also see less free wifi as the mills that power them are under more strain due to the more frequent change in temperature
Farms already are ecosystems, and farmers spend a significant amount of time under microscopes and testing their soil chemistry to make sure they have an optimum ecosystem to grow the most amount of food in the least amount of space.
@@LaOwlett Sure, many farms are operated that way NOW, but it didn't used to be that way.
Too little too late i believe we have already tipped over the edge. The poles are shifting which i think will cause extreme winters and summers. Its 110 f in Texas we are burning up down here we got phoenix weather which is crazy.
We blew past the tipping point a while back. Wake up!
What a contrast:
Horrible news presented by an exceptionally lovely person.
Thanks for this. I've been saying for years that it's gonna get really cold here in Europe once the gulf stream breaks down. And I can already see all the climate change deniers then being bolstered because hey, a local cold phenomenon is of course proof there is no global warming ... ugh.
Sorry to be pedantic, the gulf stream won't stop, it can't due to the earth's rotation. It will however move further south, depriving most of Europe of the warm waters/air currently enjoyed.
@@s.c.m6510 Do you have anything to back your claim? From what I've always understood the gulf stream is mostly driven by temperature and salinity difference between polar and equatorial waters, not the Earth's rotation.
ruclips.net/video/tnVWUIhQ8dE/видео.html @@littlerave86
@@littlerave86 It was discussed in the video @5:45
@@The_Razielim With the conclusion that "increasingly, scientists are worried that it could collapse altogether."
Okay. Mixing up AMOC and the gulf stream here.
I'd love to hear about impacts like this on pacific regions.
Depending on your location rising levels and a much more interesting monsoon season
We likely got an inkling of that last week.
All nth Hemisphere population will be trying to squeeze themselves into your region, 1billion chyna man in the Pacific countries, NICE... 👍😳😁
Look up climate impact maps. There are many for a variety of topics and under a variety of circumstances, temperature and sea level rise in particular but you can also find changes in precip and wildfire risk
This is an interesting program re temps in the pacific (I live in Australia) ruclips.net/video/KtjeNvTwYeU/видео.htmlsi=QsypygRMjsokKOMv
Warmest temperatures ever.... So warmer than when the dinosaurs walked the earth? Asking for a friend.
Is the ecosystem today able to adapt to a rapid change from an Interglacial period into a non ice age period? No.
The dinosaurs adapted in a non ice age, meaning they are used to that intense heat. This is a rapid change from our ice age (yes, where in an ice age, the presence of large ice sheets prove that) into a temperate period without any time to adapt.
This will literally fuck the world and ecosystems over so many times that I’m surprised if biodiversity stays at a high rate.
I am so pleased you were able to collaborate with the shark study team. My daughter and I watched that together. Climate collapse is a little heavy for her age group, but we share what we can.
Terryfying your kids is not a good parent.
good for your kids, the climate isn't going to collapse. climate rolls in cycles.
follow the money to see who is giving them out their agenda and surprise
Ignore the climate deniers. You're doing good, you're preparing your kid. Remember, if we don't do something, things will get much worse than just watching a video.
No one is denying the climate is changing. We all know the causes are multivariant and no reasonable person can point to anthropologic interference as the reason as the climate has always changed, and will continue to change. My point, and others are that there's no point living in fear or feeding fear to your kids. The earth isn't going to die, the oceans aren't going to dry up and regardless of this video and many like it the world will be find in 12 years, 50 years and a hundred years from now. Just as it has always been. Its ok to think critically about the agendas you chose to accept. @@FelipeKana1
Hopefully the world leaders can all fly on their private jets next year to talk about how we need to do something to save the planet despite every world leader having a nearly unanimous consensus on this topic.
For the USA peoples, "the wheels on the bus go round and round."
Maiya May is absolutely stunning, I could watch her and listen to her talk , all day , everyday ! ❤
Thanks PBS 😊
She is so stunningly gorgeous that it's difficult to focus properly on what she is saying, while those black beautiful deep pool eyes make it almost impossible. Only way round this problem is to play the video on repeat till it all eventually sinks in. The science, I mean🙂🙄😉
I am glad you got something out of that depressing video.
I'm worried my home is going to be washed into the sea by rising sea water levels and repeated battering by strong hurricanes. And then I'll be homeless and the world will be facing dramatically increased food insecurity issues, there will be millions of climate refugees trying to escape to the narrowing band of livable land and the various warlords/oligarchs/"self-made-billionaires" will see that as an opportunity to get even richer at the cost of human lives. That's the part I'm most worried about, I guess. If I had to put a name to it.
Prepare now! The end is near!
I live in Northern Indiana and remember when I was a kid having snow in October, now we are lucky to have winter with any snow at all. Global warming is happening so much faster than ANYONE wants to admit. For anyone today that has young kids consider them the last generation survive on the planet. We have 50 years max but realistically its going to be more like 25 because in about 10 years time the amount of warming will have gotten so bad that runaway effect will have increased so much that about 10 or 15 years after that the earth WILL have become unlivable to the point that unless you are living underground you would not be able to survive. With everything that is going on in the world today and the fact that WW3 seems to be right around the corner, I have come to the sobering reality that maybe this particular planet and its species just wasn't meant to make it.
Human beings are corrupt animals anyway. We want fairness but every system and every avenue of prosperity leads to total corruption
That is how I feel also 😢
Not only do the oceans retain heat, but they're also one of the biggest carbon sinks on Earth.
Not when they warm up.
Carbon is the basic building block of everything that has mass and magnitude in our physical universe.
@@denniskartes1302 That isn't how mass works at all. Carbon is ONE ELEMENT. It isn't the particle responsible for mass. There is no carbon in Hydrogen, another element with fewer particles than Carbon.
Zis is ze german coastguard, vat ar yu sinking about?
@@denniskartes1302 where do you get all that confidence to make statements like that when you have no qualifications to what you are even talking about? Is this what they call the Dunning-Kruger effect?
Thank you for simply explaining what took an entire unit during my education. I've tried to explain why the slowdown of thermohaline circulation is bad, but I've never been able to do it justice. Hopefully now I can!
Yes, it means a problem with global cooling. Winter in Europe could be as much as 10 degrees colder.... More like Russian or Canadian winters. A lot of heat comes up on that Gulf Stream.... And if it stops....
Too bad they don't mention the real story...the Beaufort Gyre. Also, they keep the alarmist narrative going by talking about Greenland melt(which happens every year) and showing the glaciers growing, not receding.
CO2 IS PLANT FOOD - wake up people, still spewing the climate warming crap and their biased weather models that have been wrong for years... they don't even mention the impact of the SUN, or the Beaufort Gyer which is about to collapse and effecting Labrador current which will really affect the AMOC - bundle up England ( So much for global warming !!! ) Humans are NOT the cause of world climate just look at prehuman history and climate. Just more one sided PBS crap.
@@LeeRoland well, I guess that is one way of keeping the life expectancy low, the poverty rate high and the population under 1 billion as well as slavery being common in north America, and Europe like the rest of the world.
Nah, greed is not a new concept. Politicians back then were just as corrupt as they are today (though the technology did not exist that would expose any obvious crimes), but they could hide it easier (no tape recordings, or selfies). Graft probably fueled much of what we have been left to wrestle with. You could not get the better of the Rockefeller's, or Edison, Getty, Ford, and the rest! Money ruled then (as it always had), and as it still does. Elections cost billions in this day and age, as it did (in comparison) when Warren G. Harding was elected in 1920. @@LeeRoland
I am most worried that I will not live long enough to see the collapse of modern society as we know it. I am 60. Sorry to all of the younger folks and the situation they are inheriting.
This is the scariest thing coming. Around 11,000 BCE an ice dam broke and flooded the Mackinsey River in Canada with a Black Sea-sized lake of Laurentide glacial melt. The Mackensie carrlied that north into the Arctic and then ocean currents took it down past Baffin Island into the Labrador Sea, disrupting the AMOC. This started the Lesser Dryas, many centuries of ice age, a reverse-course when the world was warming.
Currently building a house designed to be off grid, with five acres to support myself and family. I've spent thirty years trying to get politicians and people to take this seriously, only to see society driven ever further right and anti-science. Good luck folks, hope gen Z can do better than we did.
Stock and grow a variety of crops suited to wild climate swings. If 5 out of 6 fail each year the 6th will sustain
@@OldOneToothnot enough land area for the worlds population.
@@OldOneToothI have 5.5 acres, a spring fed pond & a nice southern slope, high on the edge of a beautiful fertile valley. I've learned a lot about native plants & herbs in these last 30 yrs. But, it's hard to realize how unprepared most people are to the undeniable reality & people are already in desperate straits across the world. I've enjoyed reading all these comments after watching this very interesting presentation.
@@charlescoe226 It'll get worse if people are pushed out of the fat bit near the middle to the narrow bits near the poles. Though fertile land on, warm river valleys is the stuff that counts. 3 crops of rice a year on Sumatra feeds a lot of folk.
@@patricialyons491 It will be chaos. Those who have no means, or don't know how, to grow food will be attacking those with food. We'll either have to give up our hard-earned food or fight to keep it.
The frightening thing is we do not have any measure of how this will impact civilizations since nothing like this has occurred while we existed. So we can make predictions and expectations. The issue that makes it compounding is all the things we have not yet considered.
It has occurred several times since the last ice age i think the video said. Not sure who said it but it has happened and it lasted a millennia
Watch The Collapse of Civilizations, it gives some ideas. I am only up to episode 9.
I assume civilizations will collapse to a great die off since there won't be anywhere to go. I work on my self-sufficiency skills, which not only can't hurt, it is improving my life today.
Cold snaps, flooding from heavy rains, droughts happening at the wrong time can drastically reduce food harvesting. Changing weather patterns can create big problems. Mass migration is already happening in some areas. Look for this to increase. It's not just climate. Toxic chemicals are polluting our farm lands and drinking water.
so you totally ignore why Vikings migrated go read some books
It happened around 11000bc and we are just starting to find evidence of civilisations existing before that. So yes, it happened to us before but cancel culture got rid of all the knowledge we had back then. And by cancel culture I mean romans burning alexandria's library and european tribes burning roman books, christians burning arab books...it's been happening for a long time and we end up making the same mistakes over and over.
10:40 with that trajectory in mind, i wonder how that might be impacted even further by the disapearance of permafrost worldwide. As many have said the last year, most predictions have been replaced by worse once.
The methane bomb will soon follow. Up to 1.5c additional in warming.
The movie The Day After Tomorrow is looking less like fiction and more like reality
Ask anyone who owns a heated pool how much energy it takes to keep it warm. Now imagine that on the scale of the world's oceans. For many years the oceans have been a "buffer zone" or "time delay" between what we have tossed into our atmosphere over the decades and the warming we are starting to feel today. When climates all over the world change at the same time, well: Enjoy everyday you have left.
There's strange things afoot on all the other planets in the solar system too.
There also is going to be a effect this winter. Even today there is smoke in the air from Canada. Black absorbs heat. It also radiates it. IN 31 days Anything above 45 Degrees latitude will radiate more heat than it absorbs in those huge tracks of burn areas. Those areas are down wind from The Bearing sea and the Gulf of Alaska. So might get colder than -40 in Yellow Knife this winter.
Why no F or C? -40 is the same on both thermometers.
If it dips into the Great Lakes. Those will freeze over. All of them? Then then the ice breaker will be working non stop next winter.
Face it, at this point we're beyond controlling this thing. I plan not to buy property or retire in FL, NYC or the TX Gulf coast as everyone else swarms down to those locations.
I plan to move out of Florida. So far my plans are failing, but someday...
@@roofdogblues7400 you can do it, moving out of florida was the best decision of my entire life. It's been 15 years now and i have a MUCH better life
That would explain why this summer in the uk or wales where I am we saw temperatures over 10 degrees cooler this summer than last summer. Temperatures in wales didn’t rise above 25 degrees this summer and today it’s 12 degrees! That’s 15 degrees cooler than normal.. I think it’s happening now..
The Sahul is the fasting growing region on the planet in terms of population. Nigeria is expected to become the second most populated country on the planet by the end of the century. Any reduction in rainfall in this area will lead to conflict and significant human suffering. We need to start looking at geo-engineering as its pretty clear that the current rate of CO2 reduction will not be enough.
At what point of reduction do the trees suffocate?
Hahahaha, how exactly would they suffocate? Educate yourself fool.@@David-u5w2r
We cannot do anything to change the earth cycle, all we can do is observe and adapt...
We need to start being open and excepting of each other more than ever right now. What happens when these disasters strike inevitably? We can’t be at each other’s throats. We have to ban together and help one another if we hope to survive.
It's propaganda and lies
When it all goes down, and help doesn’t come, nobody will band together. That’s the hard truth about humans, you even see it nearly annually with towns affected by hurricanes having plenty of armed and/or dangerous looters. The only chance we have is stopping it NOW, before it’s too far gone.
Be together. Vibes of Cosmos... learn where you are.
Climate change will cause immigration, or climate refugees, to move from the hotter regions to the cooler regions. The real question no one can answer, how will climate change affect food production?
Not just hotter to cooler, also cooler to hotter. At least 500 million people will need to move due to going from mild to near freezing down to below freezing temps, and those already at below freezing will likely need to move closer to food sources as the sea ice will become even thicker which will cut off the northern territories from their current fishing and hunting regions. It's not clear in this video but the "comfortable" habitable belt will shrink by 20-40% very quickly after such an event, and it's highly likely that the belt will be split in the middle by immense heat.
Food production is probably the easiest thing to guess at, most regions will need to change their crops, animals and production chains, many will no longer be viable, specifically in the centre of that previously mentioned belt, but also the northern regions. Global food production would probably be cut in half for several decades unless we do massive ecological engineering projects on scales we have never attempted before. This likely wouldn't matter too much though as people would be moving closer to food production anyways, one of the biggest issues right now is just getting the food to the people that need it, starvation could be completely eliminated if we could just manage food transportation and waste better.
It’s been answered many times. It will effect a LARGE amount of crops, many crops we know and love gone. And so much land lost.
dude this is perfect, all going according to plan
well any crops that are sensitive to heat will need to be grown somewhere else and you will have less land near the equator to grow food
well…to the point of starvation. it’s not even a « future » consequence, it already started many countries are facing extreme shortages, a lot of people have died from starvation due to the inaccessibility of food and water due to cost or insufficient supply.
@3:04 I was obsessed with that movie all throughout middle and high school. It's scary how that movie seems to become reality to some degree the more time that passes and still 20 years later, haven't changed those old habits, but rather embraced them and made things even worse now than then.
S.E. Louisiana here, retired oilfield worker. I worry about sea level rise and increased hurricane intensity and frequency.
Why do you think there would be more hurricanes in Louisiana if there's a new ice age in the northern hemisphere?
The most obnoxious thing about climate change is that it's an incredibly easy, damn near effortless problem to fix, but we're so obsessed with fossil fuels that we just can't handle the concept of a world without them. Humanity is soooo fucked, and I am all here for it.
Excellent presentation. The reporter is stunning and the content was paced very well. Beautiful edits and graphic representations of the phenonmenon.
Well I stopped watching after 2 minutes. No need to stress myself out first thing in the morning.
50 years ago, global cooling was going to be the end of humanity. We got busy, started making greenhouse gasses, driving more, paving everything in sight, etc. We solved global cooling. Evidently, we did too good a job.
Great channel, great content! Thanks for your reporting!
Excellent work. A comprehensive analysis. Good job.
My niece - what world will she live in? How will I give her a safe future in all of this? Lots of love from Denmark
You ever watch Mad Max?
Scary stuff...I'm thinking of what kind of world I'm leaving to my children and i want to cry.
You omitted the fact that Ditlevsen & Ditlevsen said the AMOC could tip as early as 2025. Kind of an important fact.
obviously a very concerning but extremely low likelihood....
Too alarming to say out loud.
Could you link to that report?
@@whatbringsmepeace Not OP, and I don't think I can provide a direct link, but searching "Ditlevsen amoc 2025" gave me the paper on Nature titled, "Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation" which is probably what OP is talking about:
"In this work, we show that a transition of the AMOC is most likely to occur around 2025-2095 (95% confidence interval)."
Prof Rahmsdorf used to think so too and he knows his stuff on the subject. Now? He's not convinced. It could be 2025. My fear is that the El Nino boosted heat wave projected for 2024 could be the straw that breaks Greenland's back.@@autohmae
I heard when we had the huge BP oil spill in the gulf that stopped the gulf current from circulating. The winter after this happened Europe had record freezing because the warm gulf water was not going up
@johntabor2619 People often forget that the scourge of filthy fossil fuels is not only in their use but also in their production, transport and refining.
Yes, I remember. I predicted it. In fact I brought up that prospect to the people at Woods Hole, they hadn't thought of it.
so we should add more oil spills to the ocean in order to slow climate change
@@gohardorgohome6693 Only if you want Europe to freeze to death. The AMOC acts as a kind of thermal regulator for much of Western Europe, and is the reason you don't often see them buried under 20 ft of snow.
@@jimspy1001 the oil is gonna change it fer sure
If there's no advanced civilization in your past, assume you ARE the advanced civilization.
Now, with that in mind, what would you be willing to do to save that civilization from collapse? What should be preserved and passed on? What should we invent before we fall to ensure the success of future generations??
I love videos like this because i think about large questions and these videos help me answer some of them.
I have found evidence (unpublished) that the 8200 Yr Cooling Event was part of an unexpectedly complex series of events which included a 110-year collapse of the AMOC. More recent research shows that in Northern Ireland that collapse caused rapid outcomes including cooler than 0°C every month of the year, beginning immediately after... most likely making all of northern Europe uninhabitable in those times. No crops, no leafy trees for mammal foraging, etc. Scientists should evaluate the surface current coming down the Davis Strait as a potential forcer.
its like turning an stove on in your flat and expecting the cold of the metal to cool it