@@bartroberts1514water is currently be squandered in the dry US southwest by policies that range from lax to actively providing disincentives to water conservation
@@bartroberts1514we’re talking exporting water to much wetter east Asia in he form of alfalfa, we’re talking saudis buying Arizona land because the law is so freely giving of aquifers… etc
Been watching this all my life. Sadly, the forces for economic progress, imperial dominance, political power, and short term personal comfort have proven to be far stronger than the forces for preserving the planet.
Quite right, and there is a long history of successful activism which has fought against those power structures. The situation is different now, especially with media controlled by conservatives and time running out, but there are still routes to action. See especially This Is An Uprising, the theory of nonviolent civil disobedience.
@aanyaprimlani8508 Religion: not based on facts, salvation is for an hypothetical life after death Science: based on facts, warning people on imminent threats when their occur and proposing solutions for our world Do you get the difference?
i don't think he should have ended it on a hopeful note at all. end it with the graph saying where we are actually headed, not the impossible graph where the rich give up money and power.
I presume that our climate scientists feel a sense of responsibility to offer hope, for without it, apathy would snowball and further accelerate the breakdown of our Earth System. By being proactive in climate change mitigation we can buy time to innovate better solutions that may further slow the rate of degradation & shrinking of our Earth habitat. It's not over until it's over.
The problem is not the rich. Well, maybe a little bit. As wasteful as they may be, there's just just not enough of them to matter very much. The problem is the rest of us, in our billions.
I cannot control politicians, industry or billionaires. But I have chipped away at my own 30 tons of CO2. Gardening, planting trees, dramatically reducing the energy I use, and heating with a rocket mass heater. No sacrifice - everything is about making a better life AND it happens to chip away at my CO2. I think I am now in the space of chipping away CO2 for others.
Same here...I do everything I can personally to not pollute and help regenerate organic processes on my property. It's an uphill battle with the HOA, too, because too many people are "looking in the rearview mirror" longing for the good ol' days that aren't coming back, yet they think if they keep pouring money into things that will disappear soon they're doing something good. Educating boomers is harder than anything I've ever attempted at life...they are willfully ignorant of how to adapt and change to what's happening now. I'm not giving up, but it's a drain dealing with them.
Ditto, but CO2 is #3. Our trash and diets are the biggest problem and one of the easiest to personally change. En masse, these are the major gamechangers that start with individuals.
This is the first time a species could forecast a mass extinction event and we see that many, perhaps most do not believe it could happen. This aspect alone means doom for our species and many others. We died because we were stupid.
At the end of the day, the simple truth why this is happening is because there are people that know for a fact that it doesn't matter to them and they will live in relative luxury even if many of us do die. It's the Putins, Trumps, Musk's, Xis and MBSs of the world. And honestly, these talks and videos are somewhat pointless. We're preaching to the choir and then get mad at Kevin who dropped out of school and doesn't recycle. Like we're going about this the wrong way.
Friendly reminder for everyone think about the party that's truly pro-life and that would be Democrats because they put their money and their sense in fighting global climate change whereas Republicans would like to believe we're just being hugged by God. Play covid in all other things they make science into a political football and thus have destroyed many of our chances to turn the ship around.
Humanity has been amply warmed. Mother nature has been very forgiving, we are monsters to it. And yet people will still act surprised when society collapses because of all this.
The mass extinction of species is already happening and at the scale faster than the previous one (when asteroid hit not all dinos and other species died out immediately). It already has a name- anthropocene.
My grad school friends whose work is more firmly within the realm of climate change are the most pessimistic people I know on this issue. At some point, we need to stop referring to those dialing 911 as alarmists. They sound the alarm because human systems are at risk and they’re the ones present to witness it.
@@SigFigNewton I have recent degrees in environmental biology and environmental science and I have also become very pessimistic. I know too much. Most people around me just don’t want to hear it. I’m willing to make changes for the greater good but not enough of us are. The list is of relatively simple changes we can make without degrading our lifestyle is long. Systems are starting to fail and it won’t be pretty. We were handed the Garden of Eden but we had to ruin it in the name of power and greed….so sad. Population reduction is also key, as most scientists agree that we have already surpassed the Earth’s carrying capacity.
@@joycee5493 But doesn't the carrying capacity depend on how resource intensive we are? I can't imagine we are beyond carrying capacity if everyone had the same lifestyle they have in Africa, South America, or parts of Asia. Even Eastern European lifestyles are way less intensive than ours in the U.S. and Western Europe.
@@theonionpirate1076Sure, but are you willing to live like the average African in order to reduce your impact? Thought not. And not are the other billion people that consume a lot.
@@joycee5493 50% of the world lives in poverty and we're already experiencing everything we see around us today... 100% we are way past the Earth's carrying capacity.
Indeed, 30 years ago. So currently we urgently need to draft a "damage limitation plan". Climate will never come back to where it used to be when Holocene started, but we may still be able to avoid the destruction of humanity
@@axeman2638 Who is THEY ??? As most ignorant people you confuse what the scientific consensus said (that would matter) and what sensationalized and misleading headlines of newspapers said. No wonder you understand zero to what's going on !
@@franckr6159 Consensus has no place in science, besides if there is a consensus it's that it's too small an issue to worry about. But you keep getting your information from Greta Thunberg i'm sure she's more than qualified.
It blows my mind that I still have to tell people climate change is real. I am beyond thankful for people like this helping spread the message and offering solutions.
@@ryanbishop9646 the only for-profit part is greenwashing (pretending your product or company is actually *helping* the environment, fussil fuel companies engage in that too)
@@ryanbishop9646 Is it wrong for the people who grow your food to gain profit? Is it wrong for the people who make your medicine or provide you services to make profit? Is it wrong for the people who provide your energy to make profit? Why is it wrong then for the people that create solutions to climate change to make profit? Make it make sense.
@@StratosargeI doubt that he is talking about those people. He is talking, biofuels and other things that actually damage the environment, which, to some extent, is almost everything. Profit motive can be very damaging, and surprising that you used pharma as an example considering the opioid crisis in the US began with pharmaceuticals.
It's like you don't want to give up, but you know it's hopeless. At this point we're just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. The trickle of enlightenment that exists in our civilization cannot hold back the tsunami of ignorance, greed and self-interest. An example of this futility for me was discussing the crisis with some religious folk who don't recycle and don't care about pollution or species extinctions - when I pressed them for a reason they just said "when we finish trashing the planet God will make another one". Alternatively us sinners will all die in a polluted burning hellscape while they glide up to heaven in the Rapture.
For advice on how to talk to religious people, you may wish to seek out what Katharine Hayhoe has said, or the Pope, in Laudato Si (2015), Laudate Deum (2023), and numerous letters. Or understand that there are hateful religions that extol destruction, accelerationism, and depletionism and just want to see the world burn, and you with it.
Yes, the rich will have the best seats in the house for the end of the good times. They will be able to view and experience the true misery for far longer than people and animals with no options. But their wealth will run out eventually.
The ocean temperature graph at 7:55 - Is probably for the first time showing two things, 1, because of the time it takes for deep currents to make a complete cycle and stirr the entire sea, this jump only now includes the whole mass of water that has been warmed without tempering from other pockets of less active gyres. And 2, the ice on Greenland and Antarctica in contact with the sea has now reached 32⁰ Fahrenheit and phase changing is beginning in increasing areas. This means it's heat absorbing capabilities is now basically ended. Expect that curve to rise exponentially as the ice caps begin to break away and melt much faster than heretofore documented.
Yea sure ! Whenever the dire predictions fail to materialize they come up with a new theory based on nothing. Warming of the seas has not materialized to any extent because the absurd claim that co2 is to blame for warming has once again failed.
I can't give you a thumbs up because what you write is too dire, but you are not wrong. And the rich may be unifying around a plan of genocide for the masses. Dignity will not be our exit strategy
I generally agree with your assessment, however the ice melting is still consuming heat, the phase transition from solid to liquid consumes energy. The other effects of radiance of uv rays and increasing sea levels may impact overall temperature, but the phase change means energy is being consumed and not released. So basically the ice sheet is still doing its job, however it is not an overall positive sign.
@@javierwagner4410I posit the absorption from transition is what is now diminishing, the rise from below freezing being mostly over. We've noticed melting and calving for decades, it must be assumed the jump in the graph is a major change in the system and must represent a significant unseen factor. The ice in my opinion should have been considered gone long ago.
Forgot the name of the tech CEO in the film, but guy in this video is so the dude who sent drones to push the asteroid then when they all crashed into each other he took the president and evacuated the planet 😂
@@tinoyb9294 There is no overpopulation. We are perfectly capable of feeding everyone on earth. The food is just extremely unfairly distributed, because of (you guessed it) capitalism.
What a shame that big Corp didn't hear when the problem was announced back in the 50's, yes the 50s! Charles David Keeling started measuring CO2 levels at Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii, creating the "Keeling Curve," which showed a clear upward trend in CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. This was one of the first pieces of evidence that human activities affected the global climate. The sad thing is that they're still not hearing it. The only sound they hear is the sound of money.
And do what? Only a handful of people make any real difference. Often these are the very people you want to rise up against. Instead of revolution, why don't you buy an ev and put up enough solar to power your house and car.
Or a MEGGAR SNOBALL THAT SOME SILLY PRAT STARTED IN THE PREVOUS VALLEY, ROLLS DOWN HILL AND KNOCKS THE CAN KICKER OVER IN THE PROCESS AS THE PRECIPICE BECKONS....
Now, but we can grow food indoors using LED's at far higher yields than our land wasting farmers. We grow enough food currently for 12 billion globally and rising, so no need for the dramatics
BarrGC No need for dramatics? You are thus clearly fine with us growing "enough food currently for 12 billion globally" yet allowing around 2.3 billion people in the world (29.3%) to deal with moderate or severe food insecurity by 2021 metrics. Stop downplaying real issues.
@@dnpjj Those 2.3 billion are food insecure due to poverty. In the last hundred years we have lifted just as many, percentage wise, out of poverty and we continue to progress in that regard. Poor people don't give a damn about the environment, they just need to focus of survival. The more we lift out of poverty, the more positive it is for our environment overall. We'll be fine, don't fret
@@BarrGC poor people don't usually have the means to destroy the environment. the rich end up destroying everything as long as it's not in their backyard, but it will get there eventually...
We literally passed 1.5 last year! Actually based on corrected calculations that accounts for incorrect temperature measurements in the 1800's, we're actually past 2.0 right now. Of course no one wants to make a fool of themselves by admitting that, so they'll tweak the statistics and hide behind silly averages to pretend the obvious isn't true.
@@elinope4745 The world climate is not a light that simply turns off when you flip the switch. We've spent a hundred years pushing to make the world roll into this state. Not only is it not going to stop if sanity were to prevail and we stopped pushing, it will in fact keep rolling. For quite a while.
I’m a horticulturist in Rome, GA. In springs of 2021 and 22 days were 75F but two nights got up to 80F in town and ALL vegetable crops stopped growing. They did not die they just stopped in place and immature fruits rotted on the plants. Look up Plant DIF for mechanism. Old Hort technique to control greenhouse crops timing and height by decreasing the day/night temp difference but no one reversed it ever…this was before hormones were used. But this doesn’t happen …not in nature…not known. Not expected or predicted or in any models. When a single night is warmer than the days vegetables will stop growing in the affected areas. My name is Jimmy Greer and I stand by my observations
Last time I had a garden, I had so much squash, peppers and tomatoes to provide for my family and our neighbors. This year, we started a new one. I’m sure we are rusty, need to re evaluate our methods, and plenty more factors go into it, but our squash aren’t growing to size in time. We’ve had a yield per square meter that my old garden dwarfs. I don’t know what all played a role in this, but our weather has not been helping. Warming does not equally effect every area’s weather, but I do not remember the fluctuations being like this last time.
You are right. It is happening also in Hungary. There is no sense of watering anymore with temperatures 40+ degrees daytime and 25-27 by night. The corn has developed only half of its normal size this year.
I am a horticulturist in Moss Beach CA. We don’t normally get rain in July or August. This year July was wettest and coolest in my 60+ years of observation. Last Wednesday it drizzled most of the day. We have 20+% chance of precipitation according to Weatherunderground app run by IBM AI process next several days. My good friend whom is a planet astroscientist told me that planets go through cycles and associated temperature consequences. Long time ago, bacteria and tiny organisms in oceans produced excess oxygens in water and made toxic carbon rich atmosphere to mammal friendly air. If human are by product of evolution and not supreme being that must survive on this planet then our tiny production of CO2 will benefit next evolution. I do my part to limit my energy usage with solar panels and water usage. I produce less than 2 gallon of waste water per day, and less than 1/2 gallons of garbage. I limit my driving to less than 150 miles per month. I wish I had more children and my happiest moments are spending time with my grandchildren and preparing meals with my wife and my best friends. I see few bullies who bomb innocent people driving WW2 era tanks and shooting DIY rockets. I am certain each DIYrockets produce more CO2 than my entire carbon footprint and each WW2 tank produce more CO2 than my lifetime carbon footprint. Stop the people who start a war and a terrorism.
Greed and politics will kill all life on earth. When humans are gone the earth will have the time to heal and some life forms will live on earth. Not human beings. Humans need Earth. The Earth does not need humans.
"When you get a virus, you get a fever. That's the human body raising its core temperature to kill the virus. Planet Earth works the same way: Global warming is the fever, mankind is the virus. We're making our planet sick. A cull is our only hope. If we don't reduce our population ourselves, there's only one of two ways this can go: The host kills the virus, or the virus kills the host. Either way..." ― Richmond Valentine in Kingsman: The Secret Service
Easy now, we're not going anywhere, except for spreading out to every planet we can reach. The climate is in a constant state of change and the sea levels have been rising for tens of thousands of years, this is nothing new. It's not great, but still far from an existential threat to us or the planet, so stop with the dramatic hysteria.
Being an architect who wanted to do the right things, I have been watching this since 2005 and have witnessed sustainable design being turned into selling points, greenwash propaganda, and political tools, with very few clients, almost none, who really care or want to understand. I have joined the pessimistic folks a long time.
"We have not reached 2C in last 3 million years..." Yea, and thats the era that Earth has been the same as today. If we go further, the continents were different, mountains were different, chemistry was altered, climate and weather were different... So we can say we are out of any seen climate conditions. And that rapid change that is even accelerating is making is death toll ever higher.
We are here just briefly before being replaced. Its all so fragile apparently one single bee species is responsible for pollination of something like 50% of all the crops we depend on. The interconnectedness is mind boggling
Most people seem to miss an important point in these discussions. As noted in this video, the rate and amplitude of warming is accelerating. Atmospheric GHG levels continue to increase and there is no way to rapidly remove them from the atmosphere, that will require centuries. When you factor in further feedbacks from loss of albedo due to melting snow and ice, loss of the aerosol masking effect, and rising methane levels from the warming soils then we are looking at +5 degrees of warming within several decades. The heat will kill us long before sea rise becomes catastrophic. Intelligent solar radiation management strategies are imperitive if we want to live long enough to solve the carbon problem.
Trees and plants remove it from the atmosphere. We could stop eating so much animal protein and reforest the huge amount of farm land that this frees up. It may not be 'enough', but we do have ways to remove at least some of that CO2. I suppose that will happen sooner or later when the population shrinks.
Solving climate change requires an immediate shift in collective consciousness......the problem is it requires billionaires and politicians to pursue altruistic means and not profit or power.....all of human history tells us what will happen
I know of one of those. And he is in a civil war with his own country’s rulers. And he must survive repeated attacks. And he must stand attacks from all mainstream media and people worshiping god Krösus.
Explain like I'm 5... if even just one of these positive feedback loops starts up isn't it inevitable the others will too, and thus, runaway climate change?
@@nsbd90now no they have a graph in New paper AMOC collapse is expected to refreeze north pole ice cap so would be a stabilizing feedback Possibly AMOC collapse helps Amazon get rain and melt Antca sea ice
In 2008 US oil production was at its lowest level this century. Then Obama promised he would fight climate change, got elected and oil production increased rapidly, by the end of his 8 years by roughly 80%. Then Trump took over and oil production increased even more. Then Biden came and oil production increased even more. Please don't vote for Trump but know that it's unlikely Harris will actually take any meaningful climate action. The US is a petrostate and we're screwed either way. (But much more screwed with the Republicans.)
Sadly neither major party represents a sustainable future. We need a complete restructuring of the global economy based on health instead of wealth. Realistically that's not going to happen since the forces firmly in control care only about wealth. The idea that we can create something like a "green economy" is just complete nonsense as currently proposed. The elites seem to understand there is no future for this civilization, so they're just continuing with policies that allow them the grab as much wealth as possible before the chaos ensues. We're living in a SciFi movie that doesn't have a happy ending.
But will the largest emitters of CO2 agree to curb their emissions? No, because they're too busy in futile competition with each other. The rest of us have little if any influence.
@@jemezname2259 how does everyone on the planet buy an EV? Finger in the air but I'd guess we would need 50 to 100yrs to extract enough resources to replace every car on the planet with an EV.
@@jemezname2259 That is far too little. The mass production of CO2 is in the industry and that is only speeding. Major emitents of Co2, like China or India are planning to open more and more coal power plants. Heck, even seemingly green Germany are doing the same, because of the stupid decision to turn off the atom power plants. Green energy is still unreliable and a small percent of the overall usage so heat pumps or electric cars won't do a squat until we will be 100% energy green. We still need to master storing the energy (not close enough at the moment) and rebuild energy system from the ground to manage the green energy properly. This is DECADES. We are doomed either way. We still should try, but be also ready for the nearing catastrophe. It basically already begun as a energy crisis, social unrest and wars. This will fluctuate between calmer and heater periods but will become bigger and bigger with time.
I definitely feel the hopelessness, helplessness and powerlessness reflected in all these comments ... We humans have made a mess… however I believe that the one important thing is to share this video if every Commenter was to share this video I bet it would make an impact
@@user-ds7uk1ft2x Exactly, thank you. Humans will always have a certain percentage of hysterical pearl clutchers, and this comment section is VERY good proof of that. Even a full metre of sea level rise over the next century isn't a threat to us or the planet, it's just an inconvenience
Pretty sure he is referencing models that don't account for the continuing increase of methane, set to become exponential. In fact he doesn't even utter the word "methane" in his presentation.
It's like compounding interest. The more they try to control the weather, the worse it gets, because scientists will never understand that "letting go" is healthier than artificial manipulation.
He is still not using plain english. This speaker , he still not clearly saying that many tipping points and self reinforcing feedback loops have already been triggered! And that it is therefore, clear that it is now too late, for us to do anything now to change it or stop it.
@@heww3960 Just like you can't uncook an egg, you can't unburn the rainforest, unmelt the ice caps, or unmodify the ocean currents. Some changes are permanent. The climate system is a dynamic system in a temporarily steady state due to a delicate balance. If we tilt the balance too far, a new steady state will be found, and we can't go back to the old one. It's kind of like shaking up a jar with layers of colored sand. One the jar is shaken, the sand is mixed up, and it's nearly impossible to unmix it back into the stable state it used to be in. We can certainly put our best effort into capturing carbon and cooling the planet down, but it will never be the same as it once was before tipping points were crossed.
Tipping points don't necessarily mean we can never go back. For the ice sheets it means it would take a very long time, much longer than it took to melt them. On a human timescale of 80+ years you could say "never", sure.
Honestly communicating that decades of humanitarian and economic crisis are ahead of us - because scientific models and projections were not and in part still ARE NOT taken serious (enough) by political leaders and voters alike. Sad to see that a majority of people desperately want to stick to a status quo of behaviour that just isn't sustainable. Reactance. And yet there's things we all can do quite immediately to help soften the blow. 1) Vote only for parties and candidates that acknowledge the fact of human made climate change - and want to tackle the problem. 2) Cut down on meat consumption, have your Sunday roast or your occasional steak (if you feel you need it every once in a while) and try out plant-based options for the majority of your meals. 3) Enjoy nature as often as you can - take a hike through a forest, go biking along the banks of a river, have a picknick somewhere nice. And just be perceptive. Things are changing in front of our eyes. Let's appreciate the beauty that still surrounds us.
Sadly neither major party represents a sustainable future. We need a complete restructuring of the global economy based on health instead of wealth. Realistically that's not going to happen since the forces firmly in control care only about wealth. The idea that we can create something like a "green economy" is just complete nonsense as currently proposed. The elites seem to understand there is no future for this civilization, so they're just continuing with policies that allow them the grab as much wealth as possible before the chaos ensues. We're living in a SciFi movie that doesn't have a happy ending.
It's a technicality. The "global average" is measured in 10 year increments. Practically speaking, we're probably at 2C. I'm commenting, but I seem to be shadow banned by auto-mod so I hope you see this.
He just can't bring himself to be completely honest with himself & the audience about just how grim the situation really is. A fatal flaw of pretty much all climate science communicators. We're f*cked.
@@triplikeido75 Anyone who doesn't sugar coat it (like in the emissions graph at 12:55 for how we'll hold the line at 1.5C which shows emissions magically dropping 50% in the next five years. Which is itself more believable than the "and then by 2050, gigantic negative emissions begin magically creating a literal mountain of carbon" ones) is immediately branded a doomsayer and effectively blacklisted. Been that way for a very long time.
Held accountable for what? I never understood how you guys fail to understand that the oil industry simply meets the world wide demand for oil. And a terrific job they do of it too. Why can't yall understand basic economics??
@@jennifersmith4864 When you know there's a demand to meet AND know that it would have severe repercussions in the future, then decide to act on it anyway, you must be held accountable for any damage it causes as they happen. But because you can't blame Big Oil, or related businesses, for any bushfires, hurricanes, or other weather events worldwide because fossil fuels don't cause those weather events directly, history will see Big Oil as responsible for the CO2 emissions that drive climate change. But if nothing gets done, in part because Big Oil refuses to transition away from fossil fuels, then we'll increasingly want to hold them accountable as it becomes extremely clear that climate change becomes hostile to human life. Once you continue to emit CO2 into the atmosphere, knowing it will worsen the climate and standard of living, something has to give.
@@jennifersmith4864 its a bit more than that. Corruption, lobbying, misinformation campaigns.... there shouldn't be a demand any more, yet everyone is fed the lies that there isnt a better option than to keep burning stuff. The oil industry has been and still is far too powerful, greedy and dangerous
Even Noam Chompsky is dipping in circles related to climate change implications and awareness. Too too many do not take it seriously. They are dismayed by politicians who are in cahoots with the oil companies 😢
“BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD” really speaks to me. What I do might have nearly zero impact on our environments future. But if everyone thinks that way, we are guaranteed to fail. By trying there’s a chance. If more people think like this, there’s a slightly bigger chance. Repeat that over and over. Now, all of a sudden, change becomes possible. To those that are skeptical about climate change being human related: Worst case scenario, you’re right and the climate goes to 💩 regardless of what we try. But if we make the changes scientists are suggesting and climate change ends up being human related, it’s a massive win for you, your family, and everything on the planet. The upside to believing is huge! The upside AND downside to believing climate change is unrelated to humans and being wrong is massive. 3 options You are right: 1. Climate change is unrelated to humans and we change nothing. We enjoy a few more years of our familiar lives until climate change eventually kills most humans. You are wrong: 1. Climate change is related to humans and we change nothing. We enjoy a few more years of our familiar lives until climate change eventually kills most humans. 2. Climate change is related to humans and we make the changes scientist have suggested. Climate change is potentially reversed and humans/animals survive.
@@angelsplace if one partially- melted power plant could destroy an entire ocean basin, we all would've been dead from Chernobyl long ago. It's a lot of radioactive material, sure, but not nearly enough to cause such damage. Not even close.
One can repeat that over and over yet if we don't even acknowledge that the primary foe isn't the little people, but rather the 1% sitting on top of wealth/power entrenched in polluting economies of scale with monopoly power, there is zero chance the change needed in the time scale required will happen.
No, there isn't any chance. It's still 0% likely to happen. 8 billion people are not going to collectively get off their @ss within the next 5 years. Anyone that thinks otherwise is in deep denial. Arguably deeper denial than even outright climate deniers. It's actually easier to believe that it isn't happening than to believe that 8 billion people will simultaneously change their ways. Since we're 100% already going over the tipping points, I am going to massively exceed my carbon budget these next few years crossing things off my bucket list while you waste your time believing in fan fiction that cannot happen.
Climate change > then crisis > then chaos > then finally catastrophe. We are at crisis stage now and irony is that we won't be able to stop catastrophe because SOLUTIONS REQUIRE SACRIFICES. SACRIFICES OF DAILY LIFE COMFORTS. AND "COMFORT IS LIKE GRAVITY. ALL IT NEEDS IS A LITTLE PUSH" quote credit: Joker
@@jemezname2259 going off grid requires sacrifice of daily life mingling and dependence for tasks on others which huge majority don't have courage or will to do and also even if they want to, I don't think 8 billion people can go off grid on habitable parts of earth 🤪. Probably possible when we were upto 1 billion
I'm not happy to say this, but from all my consumption of this information over the years, it seems to me that scientists in the trenches of research on this topic know that there is no going back, and hope is indeed lost, and the only reason videos like this are being made is to try to inspire people to change, so that absolute disaster remains 80 years out (As an example), instead of our actions getting worse, which increases how fast absolute disaster arrives. In other words, things are bad, we are past the point of getting better, but we can at least avoid making it even worse than the current bad trajectory. I think of it like being 20 years old, and being told you will definitely die before you're 60 years old, and although it sucks, the goal is to not worsen your lifestyle and end up dying at 30yo instead...and then extend that example to the human population. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what my intuition and understanding reads from people like this presenter.
Yet, extremely few know this. It's not even the message in this video, which is actually very weird. I just want people to know we're actually about to kill billions of people and lose this civilization.
I think you've got it about right. And the data keeps suggesting things aren't just getting worse but getting worse faster and faster. We're living in a SciFi film that ends badly. And sooner than expected.
Yeah, either the scientists are biased by their feelings of hope, or they know very well we're very screwed. I mean, with every bit of research that comes out it turns out that the problem was underestimated. All the observations consistently seem to be right at the worse side of the error bars.
I am not optimistic that our species is willing to take the required actions. Firstly, 'we' (the collective we) do not actually view ourselves as part of any collective. Secondly, too many individuals can't (or won't) even take actions (for just themselves) on a daily/monthly/yearly basis that they KNOW is necessary to have a future (addictions, inertia (laziness), and the high probability that they've already exhausted the resources ($) needed to yield better future for themselves or their offspring (education/learning a trade/etc.). We are not a 'wise' species, yes we are clever, but at an individual level and not at a holistic level. While we have some individuals who are wise and can see the writing on the wall, their numbers are too few to bring the rest (kicking and screaming all the way) along to do what is necessary. The Earth has gone through massive changes in its surface biological content many times (most of which absent of all but the most simplistic forms of life) and the Earth will proceed without us just the same. I hate any use of the phrase that we must 'Save the Planet' since 'The Planet' doesn't need saving, it is a very narrow set of environmental conditions that must be saved if Humans are to remain a viable species...but the universe (or even this tiny spec of such) won't care if this particular example of a pseudo-self aware biological entity overruns its petri dish and knew it was overrunning it near the end. Sad? to whom? and to those who would invoke a deity that 'cares' then I would speculate that if such existed it might simply shrug its shoulders and make a note to the effect 'ah,heck, another failure' before trying again.
@@bma1955alimarber For starters - stop voting for self serving morons on the right end of the political spectrum (though they are everywhere, just more there). Secondly, get involved in marches, start schooling your friends, family, and if you are motivated enough like me get a PhD that tries to come up with feasible solutions in literally any sector (mine was agriculture). There is not enough you cannot do. Individual actions like trying to limit your own footprint do very little, but the moment you get involved in a network and movement that is able to influence local and regional policies, you'd be surprised how much can be achieved. In my humble opinion we literally don't have a choice.
We can change bigger things, like manufacturing, ( we make so many useless items), like stop making war machines, stop warring actions, cut the work week by 1 day would save a lot of emissions, just to start. We don't have to figure it all out, but we absolutely must start. And we have 100s of good ideas to start with.
The war industry is a small part of the climate change. The biggest individual contribution is to switch to a plant based diet. Many of the issues he mentioned are attributed to the consumption of animal products, the 6th mass extinction, the deforestation of the Amazon, ~15% of global greenhouse gases which is more than all planes and cars, the entire transportation system combined Animal agriculture is extremely damaging for the environment, second to energy production and no one talks about it because no one wants to hear it.
most people haven't even BEGUN the transition to clean energy because of their knee-jerk reaction to solar. "it's expensive and must be installed on your roof." it can be done smaller scale on the ground and affordably. around $500 gets everything needed to provide one power strip of clean AC. costs less than your vacation. diy solar everywhere plz hurry. best decision of my life.
In 2023, total fossil fuel consumption reached a record high worldwide, driven by a 2% increase in oil usage worldwide, and 1.6% increase in coal usage. Exceeding 40 gigatonnes of CO2 for the first time in history. In India, fossil fuel consumption was up 8% in 2023, 6% in China. We are not only not cutting emissions we are setting new records each year. Net zero is PURELY a pipedream!!!
Our planetary pickle is heart-breaking. Planetary boundaries is a useful framework... but surprising that Roskstrom fails to put all the pieces together. Climate change (along with all the other planetary boundaries) are symptom predicaments of the fundamental predicament which is our ECOLOGICAL OVERSHOOT. Narrow focus on counting carbon in a futile attempt to address climate change is leading us to worsen overshoot. Attempting to continue powering this civilisation with any energy source will accelerate global biosphere collapse. Our human systems are in collapse because the earth systems we depend on are in collapse. We can only make things less bad by powering down this self-terminating techno-industrial civilisation. He's right about strapping in... it's not going to be a pretty. No solutions... just responses... build local community resilience. As the system breaks down and becomes overwhelmed by cascading and worsening crises, the only help available will be from your neighbours and local community. If you haven't heard of ecological overshoot, learn about it and try to inform those around you. Our chance of mitigating the unimaginable suffering that is unfolding is dependent on as many people understanding this concept. William Catton's 'OVERSHOOT' should be mandatory reading for all humans who care about the community of life on this beautiful blue-green world.
Take courage. We have caused the problem. We are the only ones that can fix it. Consider humanity as an economic super organism. Change the reward system, change the results. Time to grow up and get to work. Read. Research global carbon reward on wiki.
Nice optimistic outlook but unlikely as governments and dictatorships are mostly run by old greedy selfish ppl who don't care about future, only their selfish present. Meanwhile wealth gap increases making everyday ppl focus on their own current present livelihood just to survive and make ends meet with surging cost of living from high real estate to food due to corporation greed which is basically due stakeholder and rich and powerful ppl's selfishness and greed. Lastly poor areas with lack of government support, ppl have no choice but resort to dirty energy such as coal or cutting down trees to burn wood, even if they want alternative green energy, and many don't even have the knowledge or education about environmental concerns such as global warming.
Nothing on Earth has spent the last 2 million years adapting to the temperatures we are creating. One key microorganism blooms of dies off, and humanity is gone. Good luck.
Lol They are Scared an invasive grass on an Antarctic island will make it to peninsula Issue is stopping life not keeping the candle going in a tempest
I remember first hearing about climate change in the early 70s. Ever since it has been described as an environmental issue with the planet needing us to fix it. Turns out, we don't care as much about the environment as we do about GDP, or cheap airfares, or any other economic measure. Unless or until we find a completely new economic model to live by, or at the very least lose our fascination with endless growth, we are going to be that lobster in the pot.
Me too, they called it global cooling back then, we were all going to freeze to death, oil would run out by 2000, and Y2K would shut down all the computers.
Yes. From economic aspect we need more market regulations, we need labor unions and lower work hours, a lot higher taxation on passive incomes, the upvaluing of mental labor, and we should treat HDI and BHI as the metrics of development instead of growth.
People who believe the worst are getting frustrated that not everyone thinks the same way- so they double down that things are way worse than even the science suggests. It's a huge mistake as its just pushing more people away from the path of dealing with the problem, which then in turn makes them even more bitter.
We need more focus on the solutions. Like he said, there are a lot of solutions. But we need to make the solutions multiply much more. For example I think a lot more improvements in battery tech really will change the outlook.
And the elephant in the room that STILL no one dares to mention is population growth. This planet can only sustain so many people, and we have surpassed that number already. And since legally enforced population control is easily the most vilified political issue out there, I see little hope in saving us from a complete collapse of civilization within the next century or so.
You're correct, overpopulation is at the foundation of almost every single threat facing humanity and nature. Warming isn't killing anything. Life flourishes under warming. The path to reduced population numbers is achieved through education, empowering women, family planning, access to birth control and wealth creation. All of these things are proven to reduce family size, so there is hope yet. Cheers.
We could stop flying and driving-like during COVID. It’s “inconvenient” but remember how the air cleared, wild animals came out, people worked from home… That would be a good start. But nobody wants to give up traveling. 🕊️🙏🌎
We are right on track with the business as usual scenario from the 1972 MIT study The Limits to Growth. Imagine if politicians had heeded the warnings and implemented policy then instead of dismissing them. SAD!
We had by popular vote Al Gore for president who was on top of it, and ahead of his time, HOWEVER, Electoral College stepped in and Bush won the election. Rinse and repeat with Trump and Hillary! It’s all about Greed,Denial, POWER! Watch an Inconvenient Truth/Al Gore and you’ll open your eyes! Many years ago
You need to do more googling about the crazy amount of predictions we made in the 70's and 60's and 80's. Then realize that NONE of them actually came true and then try applying that knowledge and doing some extrapolating on the current day predictions...
@@BarrGC few things did come true. Back in early 80s, many predicted Soviet will collapse and our Fed rate will be around 6% leading to huge economic boom. My first mortgage rate was 13% adjustable. They called it a war dividend. Our Fed rate went to nearly 0% and we now complaint about 6% fixed mortgage and housing market tanks.
The best thing you can personally do to reduce your consumption is to eat a plant based diet. You don't have have to completely switch. But eating less meat, especially beef, will help the planet so much.
Not true. The most impact one can have individually in reducing CO2 emissions is to have one less child. The effect of not flying, veganism, replacing halogen lightbulbs, going car free pale into insignificance when compared to the effect of one less child. Ref: University of Lund Sweden study.
@@DrSmooth2000 Are you crazy? The point is not to warm. The ENTIRE point is we are too warm. You need winter for current animal and plant species to be able to survive. You cant climate control Earth to room temperature ffs.
what we are going to get isn't a happy ending, what we are going to get is generalized conflicts. All the instructions on how to steps out of the hole are contradictory (ask ecologists about nuclear energy, and you will get i don't know how many different opinions). And that's without even understanding that every governing body on earth is competing against each other in some way, be it ideological, or economical.
we did it with the Ozone layer, that was sign that we're more than capable. It's our leaders who need to stick to their word when they say we're "transitioning" transition fasterrrrr
Transition to what ? I'm 100% for the environment but the govts are not in this for that. Feel free to look up anything I'm about to say, I appreciate if you will. All Solar companies only offer (to my knowledge) "grid tied packages". So your house generates power, meter goes backwards. Then you use power, meter spins forward. No batteries. I know of 4 states that once they had enough ppl on a system, simply took away the equal KW pay. The ppl paid for the system, they produce power to the grid, and the residents bill keeps increasing. You will aslo never get a check and all states that I know has already made laws where you cant just set up a grid and panels to make money. Im sorry but thats a scam. Wind turbines use power to turn when the wind isnt extremely strong. They need a certain rotation per minute to generate power. The props bow if not. They are 20 to 35% efficient, 50% tops in high winds. Most off grid people use natural gas to fuel the high-energy appliances. Strange that now natural gas is the new enemy of "going green". The fact is, the govts push for a green deal very clearly is not about saving the environment
It is important that we embrace changing our societies and demand sustainability from our governments, corporations, and lifestyles. With enough political will the world can turn on a dime.
In the shadows of science, the Earth cries out, A plea from the depths, where we’ve lost our doubt. Years of alarms, now sounding the horn, Our planet reshaped, our future forlorn. Earth system scientists, their hands in the air, Nervous and wary, a burden they bear. For we’ve underestimated the speed of the storm, Now witnessing changes that defy the norm. We’ve breached the bounds, the planetary frame, Where resilience falters, and we bear the shame. Abrupt changes unfold, faster than thought, In a world where stability is painfully sought. The Paris accords, a decade gone by, Yet the temperature climbs, as we reach for the sky. 1.2 degrees, a blistering rise, A record heat that blinds our eyes. But what’s worse is the pace, a terrifying trend, Warming accelerates, where will it end? If we keep on this path, we'll break through the veil, To 2 degrees, where life begins to pale. Beyond carbon alone, every element aches, From freshwater drained to ecosystems’ breaks. The sixth mass extinction whispers in the night, As nature’s balance tips, lost in our sight. Economic costs mount, human lives at stake, In the heat, in the floods, as the Earth starts to quake. $38 trillion lost by 2050’s dawn, If we don't change course, the future is gone. The ocean, once a buffer, now sounds the alarm, Its warmth rises sharply, a sign of great harm. In 2023, it veered off the chart, A symptom of imbalance tearing apart. Land loses its grip, no longer a sink, The Amazon shifts, as the world starts to shrink. The forests, the reefs, the ice sheets we mourn, As tipping points near, and new climates are born. The great acceleration, a tale of our time, Where growth meets destruction, and nature’s fine line. Scientists are shaking, their voices grow hoarse, As they warn us to steer back on the course. What will it take for us to see, The perilous path that leads to the sea, Where oceans rise and forests fall, And humanity's future is a fragile call? We must bend the curve, cut the emissions, Navigate wisely through perilous conditions. For five short years, the carbon clock ticks, Before our planet faces irreversible tricks. The path is clear, the science is strong, We must act now, or we’ll face the wrong. For the Earth is our home, our one true place, And we cannot afford to lose this race. In the hands of the few, the choice is laid, To protect our world or let it fade. And as the scientists urge, with nerves frayed and worn, Let us heed their call, before the storm.
But don’t hold your breath waiting for collective humanity to heed the call Too busy with an infinite number of other things to do more important to them
unfortunately, for the last 30 years, we have beed warned that we are driving at 200 km/h to the wall, we kept pushing on the accelerator. I am far from optimistic : getting a country to agree on something is a dire challenge..imagine getting 8 billion people stirring in the same direction ?
Already figured out things would be progressing more quickly than people said it would 30 years ago. We needed everyone on the planet to work together on this to stop things- now we need them all just to slow this down. Guess what? Humans won't come together for this.
Humans used to. We had acid rain killing forests and dissolving public buildings, and the scientists worked out what was causing the problem so we stopped doing that - and the trees grew back. We had a hole in the ozone layer, and the scientists worked out what was causing the problem so we stopped doing that - and the hole has been quietly healing ever since. I don't know why we lost that "we can change our ways" mood, but I want it back. America, Europe, India, China, all responding to scientific evidence by passing new regulations and making their corporations drastically change what they were doing. We know we can do this as a species - so why aren't we doing it now?
Somehow I can’t see us recovering from this. If anything, the situation will become worse and changes will happen faster than expected. We live in a consumerist society run by capitalists who will do anything to keep making record profits. The environment is the last thing on their minds.
Be kind to each other, look after your community, try to live as simply as possible. Reduce people's suffering as much as possible. That's all we can do
@@nigelhughes6096 Actually, we can do a lot each of us individually. Some of these things are: better insulate your home, heat with a thermopump, live close to work, use public transportation, eat less animal proteins, buy an electric car if you need a car, buy durable goods and take care of them instead of buy cheap throw-away goods, etc. This will go a good part of the way to solving the problem.
This is exactly what's driving climate change... Money and the capitalistic society we live in. If your county doesn't have a 3 to 5 percent gain every year, your county is doing terrible. Money is causing all this along with using fossil fuels, the mighty industrial complex, the mighty military complex, people wanting a huge house with a four car garage and a huge cottage with a 3 car garage,the ability to fly anywhere on the planet or take a cruise on a ship that uses the same amount of energy as a small city. Do you understand where I'm going with this. Oh yeah, let's not forget all the rockets launched that are a humongous pollution emitter. Due to all this and the processes that we have started, like melting of all the ice on the planet and all the heat in the oceans and forest fires and methane released from permafrost will accelerated the climate catastrophe to an exponential rate. 2024 I'd definitely a tipping point in our climate, but the tipping points were passed in the late 1990s. Exponential rate of global heating, and there's nothing to stop it.
I have (finally) made meaningful changes in my life and i hope to be an example to others living "middle class life" in America. I don't have a car, i bicycle everywhere to work, and i live in a compact apartment with shared walls for maximum energy efficiency. I only really eat meat on special occasions and don't incorporate it regularly in to my life. I shop and source as local as possible, and try to be resourceful to the maximum extent possible. Panier bags for groceries are a game changer.
Really great, you have done what a good citizen can do (I am personnally doing a bit less, tbf). Still another thing you can do for climate is this: VOTE for a politician that will acknowledge the reality of anthropic climate change and who will launch meaningful actions to develop renewables and stop the use of fossil fuels.
I have lived in SW Florida for thirty-seven years . Unmanaged growth , disrespect for the environment and it continues at a tremendous rate . There are developers and politicians in bed with each who just don't care .. $ over any common sense . I think that speaks to things in general . That mentality is catching up to us .
Several issues with this talk: 1) Emotions, not facts and figures get people moving 2) The average citizen can only do so much. If our leaders don't act, we're doomed (and they seem more concerned with economic growth or fighting wars in Ukraine or Palestine) 3) We can only change our course if we change our economic system. Capitalism provides freedom of choice (50 variations of anything you can think of), but relies on constant growth in a system (our planet) that is finite. We must urgently find an alternative model. It will probably involve limiting some of our choices, but what is freedom of choice if the only choice is us heading towards a brick wall?
Climate change is like watching your children get run over in slow motion when there's no reason to cross the road and you told them a million times not too..
Arctic (military) surveyors reported way back in the 50s that the temperatures UNDER the arctic were gradually increasing. There was no obvious correlation with known natural events which could account for those observations.
Sadly neither major party represents a sustainable future. We need a complete restructuring of the global economy based on health instead of wealth. Realistically that's not going to happen since the forces firmly in control care only about wealth. The idea that we can create something like a "green economy" is just complete nonsense as currently proposed. The elites seem to understand there is no future for this civilization, so they're just continuing with policies that allow them the grab as much wealth as possible before the chaos ensues. We're living in a SciFi movie that doesn't have a happy ending.
Greed, Money, Capitalism, Control of the Political System, Ignorance of 50% of People Worldwide (or much more), and the Speed of Possible Corrective Action, leads to a Dim Outcome.
When we are going to talk about the massive deforestation we are causing, and the massive under development in fire fighting forces. We can destroy the whole planet in minutes, but we are barely buying good equipment to fight forest fires and save precious trees. Canadair's are out of production (now they gonna produce some more in 2026 after 30 or so years), and the only fire fighting planes available for purchase are some expensive Japanese ones. Our cities need solar panel roofs and some replanning to account for trees to reduce city temperatures. We have covered so much landscape in europe with concrete. Delhi in India reached 50C this May. (33 million people city with minimum trees) Reducing CO2 emissions IS NOT ENOUGH whilst everything else is burning and forest life is reduced to absolute minimum.
and also war Calculate how much carbon footprint during the war in israel and in ukraine area Gaza war out to 1,000 bombs dropped per day looks like damage carpet bombing from space in these before-and-after photos
Forest fires are a natural part of a forest's life-cycle. There are even several species of pine cone that won't open without the immense heat from a forest fire. Protect human developments from fires for sure, but stopping forest fires is irresponsible care-taking of the environment.
Reducing CO2 and CH4 emissions are the first and second highest priorities, of one hundred climate solutions we see in Project Drawdown's Climate Solutions 101 Roadmap.
Trees also pump water from underground with their roots, carry it to their leaves where it evaporates. This vegetal sweating releases moisture in the air, producing new rainfalls. To chop them down is one of the best ways to f**k up the climate. Amazonia natives have always known this and keep trying to warn us, but we are deaf. A worth read: Davi Kopenawa and Bruce Albert's "The Falling Sky". Above 55⁰C people start dying, after many other animals.
In Australia we had a Prime Minister not so long ago that dismissed evidence climate change as "absolute crap". I hope he lives long enough to eat those words. It won't matter for the rest of us though, we're all screwed because unfortunately he isn't alone in that view.
@@juqual78. Insanity depends on who is right. My good friend whom is a planet astroscientist told me that planets go through cycles and associated temperature consequences. Long time ago, bacteria and tiny organisms in oceans produced excess oxygens in water and made toxic carbon rich atmosphere to mammal friendly air. If human are by product of evolution and not supreme being that must survive on this planet, then our tiny production of CO2 will benefit next evolution. I see few bullies who bomb innocent people driving WW2 era tanks and shooting DIY rockets. I am certain each DIY rockets produce more CO2 than my entire annual carbon footprint and each WW2 tank produce more CO2 than my lifetime carbon footprint. Stop the people who start a war and a terrorism. I love environmental Ukrainian army who drives EV drone to defend their homeland with recycled bombs. Our current planetary temperature is about average for last million years, and below average for last billion years. Our planet was much hotter in earlier years of 4.5 billion years. We are not saving our planet, the Earth wants to be hotter to be in typical temperature according to scientists. Environmental scientists claims we are too hot, Astronomical Planetary scientists claims Earth is doing its average temperature. I don’t know who is right. I do want my clean air and clean water, so I live in Green House with solar panel and drive less than most people.
@@axeman2638 I don't agree but that's immaterial. We (collectively) aren't doing enough to turn things around fast enough so we are definitely going to find out who is/was right and we aren't going to have to wait long.
I've been saying it for years, we could fix the problem but we wont. Now i don't think we can fix the problem, even if we stopped tomorrow the effects of the damage we have done we will feel for years to come.
What gives me hope is that the vast majority of people around the globe finally has realized the urgency and enormity of the climate change problem. But clock is ticking, we need to take action now!
You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, only after they've tried everything else. Unfortunately, Americans still haven't finished trying everything else (and it's already too late).
Yep, most people are aware about the situation. Nobody is doing the right thing. "But, i bought myself a Tesla." Yeah, right, buddy. Nobody wants to change, everyone wants to be superior, it's what we are.
its your bubble. most people are still either in denial, or thinking sth will come up to save us later on or they r not even aware of the severity of the issue
Some comments here just reflect the tactical evolution of climate change deniers. Faced with the accumulating evidence, climate change deniers have adopted a tactic of retreat in stages but without ever losing sight of their sole objective: CLIMATE INACTION. Position #1: There is no climate change Position #2: There is climate change, but it is “natural” Position #3: There is human-caused climate change, but its effects are actually beneficial Position #4: There is human-caused climate change, but the cost of doing anything about it is too high relative to the benefits. Position #5: It is too late to do anything anyway, we just have to adapt.
@@jennifersmith4864 1- We can't define??? : Warming is measured. The cause is known: an excess of CO2. The impact of CO2 is assessed with ever greater precision thanks to new studies. 2- Lack scientific solutions ??? : we need to reduce our CO2 emissions, hence substitute fossil fuels with renewable energy. From "UN Climate": Prices for renewable energy technologies are dropping rapidly. Renewables-based electricity is now the cheapest power option in most regions. The cost of electricity from solar power fell by 85 percent between 2010 and 2020. Costs of onshore and offshore wind energy fell by 56 percent and 48 percent respectively. (IRENA). So depending on the year and country, fossil fuels may remain the cheapest option, but affordability of renewables is improving fast.
@@franckr6159 No, no, no. The definition of the problem would be 1. What is the climate supposed to be? 2. Why? 3. What is the climate now? 4. Then propose your solution backed by cost/benefit analysis, specifying time frames, costs, impact on quality of life, economies, etc. So, if your solution is to stop burning fossil fuels, with "renewables" when like 90% of the energy the world uses is from fossil fuels, specify how you would stop fossil fuel usage. Don't just say we need renewables --- there are no renewables, or you could say renewables will be available in like the year 2100 at a cost of $Xxxxx --- But that's not much of a solution if all your doomsday predictions are like the world ends in 2035, right? And what is the impact of this solution, on society -- no more air travel? No more cargo ships, no more cars? Jobs? Quality of life? supply chain disaster? How many fewer hurricanes & floods? How much colder will the climate get? When?? What's the cost as opposed to other solutions? & provide supporting data, sources & computations. And are you assuming that the rest of the world will agree to this or just the USA? No offense but unless you can do this real science for all your "solutions" yer just throwing you know what against the wall, right? Have I been clear?
@@jennifersmith4864 So let’s answer you (NOTA : I had already provided most of the answers to you in the previous days). 1. Ideally as it was during the 20th century, but it’s gone now. So let’s simply retain what we can 2. Why? To avoid too high temperatures which, if we do not strongly limit our CO2 emissions, will create a much less pleasant climate (check IPCC): more heat waves, more extreme weather, droughts in temperates areas, and areas becoming simply UNLIVABLE (equatorial-tropical areas where 3B people are living) due to the « wet-bulb temperatures » (unlivable for human beings from 35°C Tw - Nota : they are probably fine for dinosaurs, but we are not going to ask them 😉 3. What is the climate now? Moving fast towards dangerous levels (already +1.3°C vs pre-industrial times, going to +2.5°C at least, and if we do nothing on CO2 : +4.8°C by the end of this century (scenario from IPCC), knowing that +4°C was the temperature increase at the end of the last glacial period 12,000y ago : hence a HUGE climate change. 4. I already answered you on the « detailed costs - benefits », but I knew you wouldn’t care and indeed you are again asking the very same question to which you know that, given the complexity, nobody has a full detailed answer. Copy of my previous answer : « Assuming your concern is genuine, the answer is provided in the 2000 pages of the « IPCC_AR6_WGIII_FullReport-1 » (reports of WGI (science) and WGII (impacts) are worth checking too). I tried to find a summary information, the one provided in figure SPM.7 seems to be on average (energy production, transport, building, industry…..) some 20 to 50 USD tCO2 eq-1. Indeed expensive but as I previously said, compared to what we would have to face if we were doing nothing on CO2 (in the coming decades: the heat waves, droughts, mass-migrations..... ) this is just PEANUTS ! Is the answer satisfying ? For more detail are you going to read in full these 2000 pages report ? » Same for the impacts, the detailed answer is very complex, that’s why IPCC published 3 reports, each 2 or 3000 pages each. I provided you already a list of what is renewable energy, copy of my previous answer: « SOLAR ENERGY. Solar energy is the most abundant of all energy resources and can even be harnessed in cloudy weather. ..., WIND ENERGY. ..., GEOTHERMAL ENERGY. ..., HYDROPOWER. ..., OCEAN ENERGY. ..., BIOENERGY » How we would stop fossil fuel usage ? Gradually while building renewables infrastructure, so we need to strongly accelerate the move to green energy. And renewables are getting more and more cost effective, see this : From "United Nations - Renewable Energy" : « Prices for renewable energy technologies are dropping rapidly. Renewables-based electricity is now the cheapest power option in most regions. The cost of electricity from solar power fell by 85 percent between 2010 and 2020. Costs of onshore and offshore wind energy fell by 56 percent and 48 percent respectively. (IRENA) Renewable energy is gaining ground. Nearly 30 per cent of the world’s electricity currently comes from renewable sources of energy today, compared to 20 per cent in 2011 (IEA and REN21). The biggest share is hydropower, followed by solar and wind, bioenergy and geothermal power (REN21). Renewable electricity generation grew by about 8 per cent in 2021, reaching 8,300 TWh (about twice the amount of electricity consumed by the United States in a year) - the fastest year-on-year growth since the 1970s (IEA). » NO scientist said the world will end in 2035 (another stawman argument). Not one. Impact on society ? Indeed a reduction of air travels and a reduction of part of the consumption. Is this a good news ? Certainly not. But compared to the catastrophy if were doing nothing to reduce CO2 this is a small price to pay. Jobs, imports, supply chain….. : indeed a complete reorganization is essential. It will be complex but as it is a question of life and death, it will be feasible. Cost compared to OTHER SOLUTIONS ? For God’s sake : which other solutions than reducing CO2 emissions ?? Rest of the World : people are ALWAYS reluctant to accept bad news and new constraints, always and everywhere. Do you believe we just « forgot » this ?? That’s why international cooperation is needed. And stop this endless BS about China, just check on the web : « China continues to lead the world in wind and solar, with twice as much capacity under construction as the rest of the world combined » (from Global Energy Monitor). Have I been clear?
@@franckr6159 1. So, there is no ideal climate, it's just whatever it is? Well, we're there so stop complaining. But why was the 20th century great? Why not the 19th or the 18th. Please provide specifics. (Note - you just throw out this stuff with no reasoning or data back up. What's "gone"? Yer just giving me more predictions. Let me remind you that in the 20th century "scientists"/alarmists were predicting such things as civilization will end in 10 to 15 years - Wald, Harvard biologist. 200 million people will starve to death in the next 10 years. 4 billion people would die in the "Great Die Off. Ehrlich. Watt - by the year 2000 there won't be anymore crude oil. Nelson -- by 1995 80% of all species will be extinct. Things musta looked pretty grim in the 1970s!! 2. I asked "why" and you just give me more unfounded, unsupported predictions. What more extreme weather? What is "more extreme weather? How much extreme weather is there now? How do you measure it? Provide specifics & back up data. How many more droughts? How many more heat waves? How many are there now? Is there an acceptable number of heat waves? What is it? If you reduce co2 emissions by say 25%, how many fewer heat waves will there be? Show the math, please. 3. What is the climate now? You told me what you think it isn't. 4. I asked for a cost/benefit analysis & yer bottom line is "no one has a detailed answer". I rest my case. I need you to select 1 "solution" like how about everyone is forced to be a vegan and tell me how many fewer hurricanes, droughts, mass migrations there would be if implemented, With costs & economic impacts. With back up data & computations. I assume gazillions of people worldwide would be unemployed & cattle by products used in many, many products, like lipstick & pet food will drive related businesses under. So, what is the effect on the economy?? Renewables -- I don't classify windmills & solar as renewable since they are in constant need of repair & replacement & that doesn't even consider their negative effect on the landscape, environment & wildlife. And they are not dependable. I agree with hydro but just try to build a dam & the environmentalists will have a cow. And they won't run planes, cars, trucks, ships, etc. I don't know enuff about ocean & geo energy to comment. If reducing co2 is your goal, then there are many proposed "solutions" to reducing co2, ranging from making everyone be a vegan to banning gas stoves & pizza ovens. Are they all of equal value? How does one select the most effective" or do you propose to do them all no matter how ridiculous or the return on invetment? Who's gonna do all this stuff? Where is the juice worth the squeeze? China? They're building 2 coal plants a week!! international cooperation ---- just saying we need international cooperation doesn't hack it. How are you gonna get it? When? What cooperation are you talking about? "assuming my concern is genuine" --- my concern is like mega genuine & perfectly sensible --- which is why I am asking for this information. No offense but YOU should be asking the same questions if your concern is more than just complaining & throwing out doomsday predictions, don't you agree?
The science evidence is strong and clear. It is time to act now. For a just and safe future, I’ll say the first thing every government should do is STOP subsidising fossil fuels!
I hope your message can reach more and more people. We need to, for example, stop pretending that we can got to Mars and live there and divert that money to improving our climate situation. It’s going to take much more but it’s the only place we can live and the only place we have found that has life. Are we going throw that all away?
@@robertfallows1054 I know. The entire Mars thing is ridiculous. Neil deGrasse Tyson thinks it’s absurd that we want to terraform Mars and somehow handle the problems there that we can’t even handle here.
1. “The Earth is becoming less able to handle human activity, and we’re getting close to dangerous limits for several key systems.” 2. “Greenhouse gas levels are rising, and the loss of species is speeding up, showing that our environment is under severe strain.” 3. “We’re breaking many of the Earth’s natural limits, with carbon dioxide levels higher than ever, causing global warming.” 4. “We need urgent and major changes, including cutting greenhouse gas emissions quickly and protecting important ecosystems.” 5. “To ensure a sustainable future, we need to adopt sustainable practices and work together globally to tackle the climate crisis.” 6. “The choices we make in the next few years are crucial; they will decide how well the planet can adjust and recover from human impacts.”
1. Show me the scientific evidence for historical evidence that any of those key systems have actually "failed" 2. Show me the ecosystem that has collapsed due to a small percentage of species loss. 3. Show me scientific of these so called "Earth's natural limits". Heck, how about you show me a definition of them, let alone evidence that there are even any limits. 4. Show me the science that shows lowering CO2 will somehow "protect important ecosystems" 5. The only way the future can be sustainable is to sustain the human population. Are you volunteering to be one of those who needs to go in order to protect the planet? 6. We have been hearing this same thing for the last 30 years and yet here we are. No disaster, no ending. Why should anyone believe that statement when the impending predicted disaster has never materialized?
The Terrifying Cascading Effects Crossing one of these boundaries does not mean just local damage; it could unleash global chaos. Imagine this: if the Arctic ice continues to melt, the planet’s ability to reflect sunlight diminishes, which accelerates warming. This triggers a feedback loop that spirals out of control. Once a tipping point is crossed, it’s like falling off a cliff-there’s no turning back. The Amazon rainforest, which has served as the lungs of our planet, is rapidly approaching a tipping point. If we lose too much of it, the entire forest could transform into a barren savanna. The consequences? Global climate destabilization and the release of massive amounts of carbon dioxide, hastening climate collapse. Melting ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica are another terrifying tipping point. If they reach a point of no return, sea levels will rise catastrophically, submerging coastal cities and displacing hundreds of millions of people. Imagine the chaos that would ensue: entire nations would be underwater, and the resulting refugee crises would overwhelm the world.
And right now German politics are considering huge subsidies for cars and making cities more car friendly. Can you please urgently present these results in a public forum to the state leaders. Cameras on them
They don’t care, don’t you see? If they would, they would have done something already, for example keeping your nuclear reactors instead of buying fossil fuel energy from other countries and claiming how green Germany is.
"When the well is dry, we know the worth of water."
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when the water is gone ,..we know the worth of the estate.
Water doesn't come from wells, or springs, rivers or lakes; only a healthy climate supplies water.
@@bartroberts1514water is currently be squandered in the dry US southwest by policies that range from lax to actively providing disincentives to water conservation
@@bartroberts1514we’re talking exporting water to much wetter east Asia in he form of alfalfa, we’re talking saudis buying Arizona land because the law is so freely giving of aquifers… etc
Expansion of Drylands is invalid modeling for participation in AR6
Been watching this all my life. Sadly, the forces for economic progress, imperial dominance, political power, and short term personal comfort have proven to be far stronger than the forces for preserving the planet.
a.k.a. Capitalism
In the words of the great George Carlin- "The Planet will be fine, we're the ones fucked'
You can always exit.
Quite right, and there is a long history of successful activism which has fought against those power structures. The situation is different now, especially with media controlled by conservatives and time running out, but there are still routes to action. See especially This Is An Uprising, the theory of nonviolent civil disobedience.
Yeah, we're screwed
This needs 8 billion more views.
no, the world is not controlled by 8b people. only that little number of people.
This video needs the carbon footprint of 8Bn more views.
@aanyaprimlani8508 Religion: not based on facts, salvation is for an hypothetical life after death
Science: based on facts, warning people on imminent threats when their occur and proposing solutions for our world
Do you get the difference?
Is better than carbon foot print of amaz0n or Temü @@wailinburnin
@@shidanli "Many of you may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take"
i don't think he should have ended it on a hopeful note at all. end it with the graph saying where we are actually headed, not the impossible graph where the rich give up money and power.
You'll find the graphs that do both at Project Drawdown Climate Solutions 101.
I presume that our climate scientists feel a sense of responsibility to offer hope, for without it, apathy would snowball and further accelerate the breakdown of our Earth System. By being proactive in climate change mitigation we can buy time to innovate better solutions that may further slow the rate of degradation & shrinking of our Earth habitat. It's not over until it's over.
The problem is not the rich. Well, maybe a little bit. As wasteful as they may be, there's just just not enough of them to matter very much. The problem is the rest of us, in our billions.
@@BobSmith-k2q that is factually wrong.
@@mikeharrington5593 i think this false hope is responsible for way more apathy.
I cannot control politicians, industry or billionaires. But I have chipped away at my own 30 tons of CO2. Gardening, planting trees, dramatically reducing the energy I use, and heating with a rocket mass heater. No sacrifice - everything is about making a better life AND it happens to chip away at my CO2. I think I am now in the space of chipping away CO2 for others.
Do you have children? That is the first thing you should avoid, getting a family.
Sad to hear that you can´t control politicians...
@@paulwheaton Well done!
Same here...I do everything I can personally to not pollute and help regenerate organic processes on my property. It's an uphill battle with the HOA, too, because too many people are "looking in the rearview mirror" longing for the good ol' days that aren't coming back, yet they think if they keep pouring money into things that will disappear soon they're doing something good. Educating boomers is harder than anything I've ever attempted at life...they are willfully ignorant of how to adapt and change to what's happening now. I'm not giving up, but it's a drain dealing with them.
Ditto, but CO2 is #3. Our trash and diets are the biggest problem and one of the easiest to personally change. En masse, these are the major gamechangers that start with individuals.
This is the first time a species could forecast a mass extinction event and we see that many, perhaps most do not believe it could happen. This aspect alone means doom for our species and many others. We died because we were stupid.
At the end of the day, the simple truth why this is happening is because there are people that know for a fact that it doesn't matter to them and they will live in relative luxury even if many of us do die. It's the Putins, Trumps, Musk's, Xis and MBSs of the world. And honestly, these talks and videos are somewhat pointless. We're preaching to the choir and then get mad at Kevin who dropped out of school and doesn't recycle. Like we're going about this the wrong way.
Didn't look up..
Friendly reminder for everyone think about the party that's truly pro-life and that would be Democrats because they put their money and their sense in fighting global climate change whereas Republicans would like to believe we're just being hugged by God. Play covid in all other things they make science into a political football and thus have destroyed many of our chances to turn the ship around.
Humanity has been amply warmed. Mother nature has been very forgiving, we are monsters to it. And yet people will still act surprised when society collapses because of all this.
The mass extinction of species is already happening and at the scale faster than the previous one (when asteroid hit not all dinos and other species died out immediately). It already has a name- anthropocene.
My grad school friends whose work is more firmly within the realm of climate change are the most pessimistic people I know on this issue.
At some point, we need to stop referring to those dialing 911 as alarmists. They sound the alarm because human systems are at risk and they’re the ones present to witness it.
@@SigFigNewton I have recent degrees in environmental biology and environmental science and I have also become very pessimistic. I know too much. Most people around me just don’t want to hear it. I’m willing to make changes for the greater good but not enough of us are. The list is of relatively simple changes we can make without degrading our lifestyle is long. Systems are starting to fail and it won’t be pretty. We were handed the Garden of Eden but we had to ruin it in the name of power and greed….so sad. Population reduction is also key, as most scientists agree that we have already surpassed the Earth’s carrying capacity.
@@joycee5493 But doesn't the carrying capacity depend on how resource intensive we are? I can't imagine we are beyond carrying capacity if everyone had the same lifestyle they have in Africa, South America, or parts of Asia. Even Eastern European lifestyles are way less intensive than ours in the U.S. and Western Europe.
@@theonionpirate1076 yeah but you have to sell that as sexy for them to buy it
@@theonionpirate1076Sure, but are you willing to live like the average African in order to reduce your impact? Thought not. And not are the other billion people that consume a lot.
@@joycee5493 50% of the world lives in poverty and we're already experiencing everything we see around us today... 100% we are way past the Earth's carrying capacity.
I went to prison for 6 months for protesting about climate change in the UK
@@3s843a 👎
You have my admiration. It is a shame when people are punished because they are trying to save the world.....
The UK has gone mental. Breaking down free speech and fhe right to protest.
@@3s843awow, no free speech allowed by you then, not even for life and death issues
@@3s843a??
We need to act immediately 30 years ago.
Indeed, 30 years ago. So currently we urgently need to draft a "damage limitation plan". Climate will never come back to where it used to be when Holocene started, but we may still be able to avoid the destruction of humanity
30 years ago they told us it all would have happened by now, it hasn't.
@@axeman2638 Who is THEY ???
As most ignorant people you confuse what the scientific consensus said (that would matter) and what sensationalized and misleading headlines of newspapers said. No wonder you understand zero to what's going on !
@@franckr6159 Consensus has no place in science, besides if there is a consensus it's that it's too small an issue to worry about.
But you keep getting your information from Greta Thunberg i'm sure she's more than qualified.
@@axeman2638 it is happening now lol?
It blows my mind that I still have to tell people climate change is real.
I am beyond thankful for people like this helping spread the message and offering solutions.
How much is real and how much is for profit?
@@ryanbishop9646 the only for-profit part is greenwashing (pretending your product or company is actually *helping* the environment, fussil fuel companies engage in that too)
@@ryanbishop9646 Is it wrong for the people who grow your food to gain profit? Is it wrong for the people who make your medicine or provide you services to make profit? Is it wrong for the people who provide your energy to make profit? Why is it wrong then for the people that create solutions to climate change to make profit?
Make it make sense.
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@@StratosargeI doubt that he is talking about those people. He is talking, biofuels and other things that actually damage the environment, which, to some extent, is almost everything. Profit motive can be very damaging, and surprising that you used pharma as an example considering the opioid crisis in the US began with pharmaceuticals.
It's like you don't want to give up, but you know it's hopeless. At this point we're just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. The trickle of enlightenment that exists in our civilization cannot hold back the tsunami of ignorance, greed and self-interest. An example of this futility for me was discussing the crisis with some religious folk who don't recycle and don't care about pollution or species extinctions - when I pressed them for a reason they just said "when we finish trashing the planet God will make another one". Alternatively us sinners will all die in a polluted burning hellscape while they glide up to heaven in the Rapture.
Dont forget to VOTE,...
VOTE like our lives depend on it
For advice on how to talk to religious people, you may wish to seek out what Katharine Hayhoe has said, or the Pope, in Laudato Si (2015), Laudate Deum (2023), and numerous letters. Or understand that there are hateful religions that extol destruction, accelerationism, and depletionism and just want to see the world burn, and you with it.
If the world ends in flames, the prophecies will be fulfilled and beliefs reinforced. These people are really dangerous and scary.
@@Sherkhan1962 Lol whaaat? "when the earth ends in flames",..who exactly will have their beliefsfulfilled ? lol
more crazy religious fanaticism.
@@-LightningRod-almost every religion has something about that at the end. If you read any sort of religious literature its common knowledge.
This talk should be on major news networks, every day!
Tsunami of ignorance, greed and self interest… you’ve got that right.
Yes, the rich will have the best seats in the house for the end of the good times. They will be able to view and experience the true misery for far longer than people and animals with no options. But their wealth will run out eventually.
@@dancoffey8412your're right sure😂! Because the earth is only for rich. The poor live in the moon.😂
The ocean temperature graph at 7:55 -
Is probably for the first time showing two things, 1, because of the time it takes for deep currents to make a complete cycle and stirr the entire sea, this jump only now includes the whole mass of water that has been warmed without tempering from other pockets of less active gyres.
And 2, the ice on Greenland and Antarctica in contact with the sea has now reached 32⁰ Fahrenheit and phase changing is beginning in increasing areas. This means it's heat absorbing capabilities is now basically ended. Expect that curve to rise exponentially as the ice caps begin to break away and melt much faster than heretofore documented.
Yea sure ! Whenever the dire predictions fail to materialize they come up with a new theory based on nothing. Warming of the seas has not materialized to any extent because the absurd claim that co2 is to blame for warming has once again failed.
I can't give you a thumbs up because what you write is too dire, but you are not wrong. And the rich may be unifying around a plan of genocide for the masses. Dignity will not be our exit strategy
I generally agree with your assessment, however the ice melting is still consuming heat, the phase transition from solid to liquid consumes energy. The other effects of radiance of uv rays and increasing sea levels may impact overall temperature, but the phase change means energy is being consumed and not released. So basically the ice sheet is still doing its job, however it is not an overall positive sign.
@@javierwagner4410I posit the absorption from transition is what is now diminishing, the rise from below freezing being mostly over.
We've noticed melting and calving for decades, it must be assumed the jump in the graph is a major change in the system and must represent a significant unseen factor. The ice in my opinion should have been considered gone long ago.
The graph is at 7:20 in my player.
We will have the planet we deserve.
@@LocalFoe The planet has us.
I don't
people who've been trying to prevent it for decades: 😐
Prove that warmer weather means more food and life?
Most of us are poor, and have little impact on planetary boundaries. So why do we deserve to live on a dying planet?
We are living the movie dont look up lollll
Yep, I think that was the whole point of that film. Humanity is cooked.
True Story 😢
Forgot the name of the tech CEO in the film, but guy in this video is so the dude who sent drones to push the asteroid then when they all crashed into each other he took the president and evacuated the planet 😂
That was exactly the point of the movie, idk how people didn't get it, even a polar bear jumping on broken ice is shown
And the movie 'Finch'...
The hurdles to get over: capitalism/greed, willful ignorance, the financial and political power that the fossil fuel industry has.
You forgot overpopulation.
Human nature is the biggest hurdle.
So communism is the only way to prevent the apocalypse?
@@tinoyb9294 There is no overpopulation. We are perfectly capable of feeding everyone on earth. The food is just extremely unfairly distributed, because of (you guessed it) capitalism.
no biggie, so we should have it figured out in a couple weeks...
What a shame that big Corp didn't hear when the problem was announced back in the 50's, yes the 50s! Charles David Keeling started measuring CO2 levels at Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii, creating the "Keeling Curve," which showed a clear upward trend in CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. This was one of the first pieces of evidence that human activities affected the global climate.
The sad thing is that they're still not hearing it. The only sound they hear is the sound of money.
The people of earth must rise up and end the oligarchs and the excessive greed and power if we are to survive.
The people of the earth, in their billions, are the problem. Try increasing their price of gasoline by a few bucks and there are riots in the street.
Maybe start by getting a smaller car next time?
@@berndgrabitz Recycle your cans and cardboard.
And do what? Only a handful of people make any real difference. Often these are the very people you want to rise up against. Instead of revolution, why don't you buy an ev and put up enough solar to power your house and car.
@@jemezname2259 That would help. And stop eating meat (you first!). That would help even more.
Sometimes, when you keep kicking the can down the road, you run out of road.
Or a MEGGAR SNOBALL THAT SOME SILLY PRAT STARTED IN THE PREVOUS VALLEY, ROLLS DOWN HILL AND KNOCKS THE CAN KICKER OVER IN THE PROCESS AS THE PRECIPICE BECKONS....
The road of time is infinite. The can kicker will die. The earth may recover in infinite time, without humankind. Or Venus may have a twin.
Or You run out of cat.
Extinction is part of the natural order of life.
The can kicks you back
“Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught, will we realize we cannot eat money”
Now, but we can grow food indoors using LED's at far higher yields than our land wasting farmers. We grow enough food currently for 12 billion globally and rising, so no need for the dramatics
BarrGC No need for dramatics? You are thus clearly fine with us growing "enough food currently for 12 billion globally" yet allowing around 2.3 billion people in the world (29.3%) to deal with moderate or severe food insecurity by 2021 metrics.
Stop downplaying real issues.
@@dnpjj Those 2.3 billion are food insecure due to poverty. In the last hundred years we have lifted just as many, percentage wise, out of poverty and we continue to progress in that regard. Poor people don't give a damn about the environment, they just need to focus of survival. The more we lift out of poverty, the more positive it is for our environment overall. We'll be fine, don't fret
@@BarrGC poor people don't usually have the means to destroy the environment. the rich end up destroying everything as long as it's not in their backyard, but it will get there eventually...
@BarrGC capitalism femands poverty
The 1.5 degrees goal is already gone!
We literally passed 1.5 last year! Actually based on corrected calculations that accounts for incorrect temperature measurements in the 1800's, we're actually past 2.0 right now. Of course no one wants to make a fool of themselves by admitting that, so they'll tweak the statistics and hide behind silly averages to pretend the obvious isn't true.
We already crossed it, anything that was going to happen when we hit it happened last summer.
Not keeping my hopes up for 1.5 Peak at 2.0 in my lifetime.
@@elinope4745 The world climate is not a light that simply turns off when you flip the switch. We've spent a hundred years pushing to make the world roll into this state. Not only is it not going to stop if sanity were to prevail and we stopped pushing, it will in fact keep rolling. For quite a while.
@@erikkeever3504 yup, but it tipped over 1.5 degrees last summer. Many people made a bunch of false claims over that particular line.
I’m a horticulturist in Rome, GA. In springs of 2021 and 22 days were 75F but two nights got up to 80F in town and ALL vegetable crops stopped growing. They did not die they just stopped in place and immature fruits rotted on the plants.
Look up Plant DIF for mechanism. Old Hort technique to control greenhouse crops timing and height by decreasing the day/night temp difference but no one reversed it ever…this was before hormones were used.
But this doesn’t happen …not in nature…not known. Not expected or predicted or in any models.
When a single night is warmer than the days vegetables will stop growing in the affected areas.
My name is Jimmy Greer and I stand by my observations
Thank you for your input and observation, please keep monitoring!
Last time I had a garden, I had so much squash, peppers and tomatoes to provide for my family and our neighbors. This year, we started a new one. I’m sure we are rusty, need to re evaluate our methods, and plenty more factors go into it, but our squash aren’t growing to size in time. We’ve had a yield per square meter that my old garden dwarfs.
I don’t know what all played a role in this, but our weather has not been helping. Warming does not equally effect every area’s weather, but I do not remember the fluctuations being like this last time.
You are right. It is happening also in Hungary. There is no sense of watering anymore with temperatures 40+ degrees daytime and 25-27 by night. The corn has developed only half of its normal size this year.
@@AaronPro-ou6rl The wheat is under developed here in the UK, corn has not yet matured enough to harvest yet.
I am a horticulturist in Moss Beach CA. We don’t normally get rain in July or August. This year July was wettest and coolest in my 60+ years of observation. Last Wednesday it drizzled most of the day. We have 20+% chance of precipitation according to Weatherunderground app run by IBM AI process next several days.
My good friend whom is a planet astroscientist told me that planets go through cycles and associated temperature consequences. Long time ago, bacteria and tiny organisms in oceans produced excess oxygens in water and made toxic carbon rich atmosphere to mammal friendly air. If human are by product of evolution and not supreme being that must survive on this planet then our tiny production of CO2 will benefit next evolution.
I do my part to limit my energy usage with solar panels and water usage. I produce less than 2 gallon of waste water per day, and less than 1/2 gallons of garbage. I limit my driving to less than 150 miles per month. I wish I had more children and my happiest moments are spending time with my grandchildren and preparing meals with my wife and my best friends.
I see few bullies who bomb innocent people driving WW2 era tanks and shooting DIY rockets. I am certain each DIYrockets produce more CO2 than my entire carbon footprint and each WW2 tank produce more CO2 than my lifetime carbon footprint. Stop the people who start a war and a terrorism.
Please, add subtitles for multiple languages. This video must be seen by as many as possible
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I'd gladly translate ir for free to my languge, but I have no idea how to go about it
Greed and politics will kill all life on earth. When humans are gone the earth will have the time to heal and some life forms will live on earth. Not human beings. Humans need Earth. The Earth does not need humans.
It’s like abusing a dog and believing they will be loyal to you! This is a constant state of abuse to our planet!!! Shame on us!
"When you get a virus, you get a fever. That's the human body raising its core temperature to kill the virus. Planet Earth works the same way: Global warming is the fever, mankind is the virus. We're making our planet sick. A cull is our only hope. If we don't reduce our population ourselves, there's only one of two ways this can go: The host kills the virus, or the virus kills the host. Either way..."
― Richmond Valentine in Kingsman: The Secret Service
Please do something don’t just say something big and do the same thing
Easy now, we're not going anywhere, except for spreading out to every planet we can reach. The climate is in a constant state of change and the sea levels have been rising for tens of thousands of years, this is nothing new. It's not great, but still far from an existential threat to us or the planet, so stop with the dramatic hysteria.
Too much doom and gloom from you, humans won't be gone, there's no evidence that we will be.
The Ocean part is truly terrifying...
Being an architect who wanted to do the right things, I have been watching this since 2005 and have witnessed sustainable design being turned into selling points, greenwash propaganda, and political tools, with very few clients, almost none, who really care or want to understand. I have joined the pessimistic folks a long time.
Unfortunately we’ll fail this test. Greed is more powerful than everything, well, that and stupidity
Anyone else watching this before bedtime? 🫠
Yup, and losing sleep over it😳
I feel you! You're not alone!
"We have not reached 2C in last 3 million years..." Yea, and thats the era that Earth has been the same as today. If we go further, the continents were different, mountains were different, chemistry was altered, climate and weather were different...
So we can say we are out of any seen climate conditions.
And that rapid change that is even accelerating is making is death toll ever higher.
I am glad he ended this with a piece of hope. Nothing fosters inaction like hopelessness. The message always has to be “things are dire, not hopeless”
We are here just briefly before being replaced. Its all so fragile apparently one single bee species is responsible for pollination of something like 50% of all the crops we depend on. The interconnectedness is mind boggling
The interconnectedness should be evident -- not mind boggling.
great filter
Most people seem to miss an important point in these discussions. As noted in this video, the rate and amplitude of warming is accelerating. Atmospheric GHG levels continue to increase and there is no way to rapidly remove them from the atmosphere, that will require centuries. When you factor in further feedbacks from loss of albedo due to melting snow and ice, loss of the aerosol masking effect, and rising methane levels from the warming soils then we are looking at +5 degrees of warming within several decades. The heat will kill us long before sea rise becomes catastrophic. Intelligent solar radiation management strategies are imperitive if we want to live long enough to solve the carbon problem.
Trees and plants remove it from the atmosphere. We could stop eating so much animal protein and reforest the huge amount of farm land that this frees up. It may not be 'enough', but we do have ways to remove at least some of that CO2.
I suppose that will happen sooner or later when the population shrinks.
Solving climate change requires an immediate shift in collective consciousness......the problem is it requires billionaires and politicians to pursue altruistic means and not profit or power.....all of human history tells us what will happen
It takes a whole bunch of workers to support one wealthy person. Either stop supporting the wealthy folks or quit blaming them. Buncha dang whiners
It requires revolution.
I know of one of those. And he is in a civil war with his own country’s rulers. And he must survive repeated attacks. And he must stand attacks from all mainstream media and people worshiping god Krösus.
Climate alarmists sit in air-conditioned comfort and tell Third World people they can't have AC until there are enough windmills to power it.
It requires addressing china, south america, and India instead of thinking the world ends outside the boundaries of north america and europe
Explain like I'm 5... if even just one of these positive feedback loops starts up isn't it inevitable the others will too, and thus, runaway climate change?
@@nsbd90now no they have a graph in New paper
AMOC collapse is expected to refreeze north pole ice cap so would be a stabilizing feedback
Possibly AMOC collapse helps Amazon get rain and melt Antca sea ice
You've got it.
First step: don't vote for the US presidential candidate who denies climate change...
1 step forward (Kyoto protocol), 2 steps back (withdrew), 1 step forward (Paris agreement), 2 steps back (withdrew)...
In 2008 US oil production was at its lowest level this century. Then Obama promised he would fight climate change, got elected and oil production increased rapidly, by the end of his 8 years by roughly 80%. Then Trump took over and oil production increased even more. Then Biden came and oil production increased even more. Please don't vote for Trump but know that it's unlikely Harris will actually take any meaningful climate action. The US is a petrostate and we're screwed either way. (But much more screwed with the Republicans.)
Sadly neither major party represents a sustainable future. We need a complete restructuring of the global economy based on health instead of wealth. Realistically that's not going to happen since the forces firmly in control care only about wealth. The idea that we can create something like a "green economy" is just complete nonsense as currently proposed. The elites seem to understand there is no future for this civilization, so they're just continuing with policies that allow them the grab as much wealth as possible before the chaos ensues. We're living in a SciFi movie that doesn't have a happy ending.
we got to realize that 1.5 degree at this point is just a fantasy
A fantasy.... that has been duly measured. Not a fantasy then.
But will the largest emitters of CO2 agree to curb their emissions? No, because they're too busy in futile competition with each other. The rest of us have little if any influence.
Buy an ev, install a heat pump, install an induction cooktop, and put up enough solar to power it all.
In the USA that may be easy (have you done it?) but not on the UK!
@@jemezname2259 how does everyone on the planet buy an EV?
Finger in the air but I'd guess we would need 50 to 100yrs to extract enough resources to replace every car on the planet with an EV.
@@jemezname2259 That is far too little. The mass production of CO2 is in the industry and that is only speeding. Major emitents of Co2, like China or India are planning to open more and more coal power plants. Heck, even seemingly green Germany are doing the same, because of the stupid decision to turn off the atom power plants. Green energy is still unreliable and a small percent of the overall usage so heat pumps or electric cars won't do a squat until we will be 100% energy green. We still need to master storing the energy (not close enough at the moment) and rebuild energy system from the ground to manage the green energy properly. This is DECADES. We are doomed either way. We still should try, but be also ready for the nearing catastrophe. It basically already begun as a energy crisis, social unrest and wars. This will fluctuate between calmer and heater periods but will become bigger and bigger with time.
True, most of this emissions are from global north
I definitely feel the hopelessness, helplessness and powerlessness reflected in all these comments ... We humans have made a mess… however I believe that the one important thing is to share this video if every Commenter was to share this video I bet it would make an impact
Could also be nonsense.
@@beedoox5613 what could be nonsense?
@@elmarco777 The doom and gloom scenario. Read Steven Koonin's book "Unsettled", with tons of cites, before giving up on the human race's future.
@@user-ds7uk1ft2x Exactly, thank you. Humans will always have a certain percentage of hysterical pearl clutchers, and this comment section is VERY good proof of that. Even a full metre of sea level rise over the next century isn't a threat to us or the planet, it's just an inconvenience
Capitalism clearly knows that you can raise a standard of living, but you can't lower without unrest.
More likely to see 3C by 2050 than 2100. Those late stage doubling speed things up far faster than they admit
IMO 2.0 with some overshoot is pretty achievable.
Peaking of population growth should help too.
Pretty sure he is referencing models that don't account for the continuing increase of methane, set to become exponential. In fact he doesn't even utter the word "methane" in his presentation.
It's like compounding interest. The more they try to control the weather, the worse it gets, because scientists will never understand that "letting go" is healthier than artificial manipulation.
He is still not using plain english. This speaker , he still not clearly saying that many tipping points and self reinforcing feedback loops have already been triggered! And that it is therefore, clear that it is now too late, for us to do anything now to change it or stop it.
Because they will still try to grow the economy, exponentially increasing pressure on planetary boundaries
A tipping point means you don't go back. For him to say we will cross the tipping point then go back in a few decades is magical thinking.
With carbon capture or similar why not. Plus we can lower the temperature with marine cloud brightening etc, or some other future technology.
@@heww3960 Just like you can't uncook an egg, you can't unburn the rainforest, unmelt the ice caps, or unmodify the ocean currents. Some changes are permanent. The climate system is a dynamic system in a temporarily steady state due to a delicate balance. If we tilt the balance too far, a new steady state will be found, and we can't go back to the old one. It's kind of like shaking up a jar with layers of colored sand. One the jar is shaken, the sand is mixed up, and it's nearly impossible to unmix it back into the stable state it used to be in. We can certainly put our best effort into capturing carbon and cooling the planet down, but it will never be the same as it once was before tipping points were crossed.
He explained what he meant. you Either didn't understand or misrepresenting it on purpose
Tipping points don't necessarily mean we can never go back. For the ice sheets it means it would take a very long time, much longer than it took to melt them. On a human timescale of 80+ years you could say "never", sure.
@@nbk5008 Have a look at Project Drawdown's Climate Solutions 101 for a Roadmap that's a bit less bumpy than carbon capture.
Honestly communicating that decades of humanitarian and economic crisis are ahead of us - because scientific models and projections were not and in part still ARE NOT taken serious (enough) by political leaders and voters alike.
Sad to see that a majority of people desperately want to stick to a status quo of behaviour that just isn't sustainable. Reactance.
And yet there's things we all can do quite immediately to help soften the blow.
1) Vote only for parties and candidates that acknowledge the fact of human made climate change - and want to tackle the problem.
2) Cut down on meat consumption, have your Sunday roast or your occasional steak (if you feel you need it every once in a while) and try out plant-based options for the majority of your meals.
3) Enjoy nature as often as you can - take a hike through a forest, go biking along the banks of a river, have a picknick somewhere nice. And just be perceptive. Things are changing in front of our eyes.
Let's appreciate the beauty that still surrounds us.
I agree, maybe stay home and enjoy where you are at instead of going on world vacations.
“Models”. They are MODELS. They aren’t scientific laws
Sadly neither major party represents a sustainable future. We need a complete restructuring of the global economy based on health instead of wealth. Realistically that's not going to happen since the forces firmly in control care only about wealth. The idea that we can create something like a "green economy" is just complete nonsense as currently proposed. The elites seem to understand there is no future for this civilization, so they're just continuing with policies that allow them the grab as much wealth as possible before the chaos ensues. We're living in a SciFi movie that doesn't have a happy ending.
I guess wars happening in some counties definitely made a contribution in recent hears
We've just had a full year over 1.5 C and a couple months at 1.6.
Have you guys seen the movie "Don't Look Up"? This feels like it
He says we are 1.2 degrees above normal? It's more like 1.6 for the past 13 months.
It's a technicality. The "global average" is measured in 10 year increments. Practically speaking, we're probably at 2C. I'm commenting, but I seem to be shadow banned by auto-mod so I hope you see this.
@@nsbd90nowwe passed 2 degrees in June. The censorship is becoming ridiculous. Big brother is watching.
He just can't bring himself to be completely honest with himself & the audience about just how grim the situation really is. A fatal flaw of pretty much all climate science communicators. We're f*cked.
it takes 3-5 years of data to alter the trend line
@@triplikeido75 Anyone who doesn't sugar coat it (like in the emissions graph at 12:55 for how we'll hold the line at 1.5C which shows emissions magically dropping 50% in the next five years. Which is itself more believable than the "and then by 2050, gigantic negative emissions begin magically creating a literal mountain of carbon" ones) is immediately branded a doomsayer and effectively blacklisted. Been that way for a very long time.
I hate that after everything is said and done. The oil industry is still not being held accountable.
Held accountable for what?
I never understood how you guys fail to understand that the oil industry simply meets the world wide demand for oil. And a terrific job they do of it too.
Why can't yall understand basic economics??
@@jennifersmith4864 When you know there's a demand to meet AND know that it would have severe repercussions in the future, then decide to act on it anyway, you must be held accountable for any damage it causes as they happen. But because you can't blame Big Oil, or related businesses, for any bushfires, hurricanes, or other weather events worldwide because fossil fuels don't cause those weather events directly, history will see Big Oil as responsible for the CO2 emissions that drive climate change.
But if nothing gets done, in part because Big Oil refuses to transition away from fossil fuels, then we'll increasingly want to hold them accountable as it becomes extremely clear that climate change becomes hostile to human life. Once you continue to emit CO2 into the atmosphere, knowing it will worsen the climate and standard of living, something has to give.
@@jennifersmith4864 its a bit more than that. Corruption, lobbying, misinformation campaigns.... there shouldn't be a demand any more, yet everyone is fed the lies that there isnt a better option than to keep burning stuff. The oil industry has been and still is far too powerful, greedy and dangerous
Even Noam Chompsky is dipping in circles related to climate change implications and awareness. Too too many do not take it seriously. They are dismayed by politicians who are in cahoots with the oil companies 😢
“BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD” really speaks to me. What I do might have nearly zero impact on our environments future. But if everyone thinks that way, we are guaranteed to fail. By trying there’s a chance. If more people think like this, there’s a slightly bigger chance. Repeat that over and over. Now, all of a sudden, change becomes possible.
To those that are skeptical about climate change being human related: Worst case scenario, you’re right and the climate goes to 💩 regardless of what we try. But if we make the changes scientists are suggesting and climate change ends up being human related,
it’s a massive win for you, your family, and everything on the planet. The upside to believing is huge! The upside AND downside to believing climate change is unrelated to humans and being wrong is massive.
3 options
You are right:
1. Climate change is unrelated to humans and we change nothing. We enjoy a few more years of our familiar lives until climate change eventually kills most humans.
You are wrong:
1. Climate change is related to humans and we change nothing. We enjoy a few more years of our familiar lives until climate change eventually kills most humans.
2. Climate change is related to humans and we make the changes scientist have suggested. Climate change is potentially reversed and humans/animals survive.
Fukushima has 4 fully blown out spent fuel pools and china syndromes and the entire Pacific is already caput.
THERE'S NO CHANCE AT ALL - but if everyone does their little bit, our remaining future in hospice will be a tad more comfortable.
@@angelsplace if one partially- melted power plant could destroy an entire ocean basin, we all would've been dead from Chernobyl long ago. It's a lot of radioactive material, sure, but not nearly enough to cause such damage. Not even close.
One can repeat that over and over yet if we don't even acknowledge that the primary foe isn't the little people, but rather the 1% sitting on top of wealth/power entrenched in polluting economies of scale with monopoly power, there is zero chance the change needed in the time scale required will happen.
No, there isn't any chance. It's still 0% likely to happen. 8 billion people are not going to collectively get off their @ss within the next 5 years. Anyone that thinks otherwise is in deep denial. Arguably deeper denial than even outright climate deniers. It's actually easier to believe that it isn't happening than to believe that 8 billion people will simultaneously change their ways.
Since we're 100% already going over the tipping points, I am going to massively exceed my carbon budget these next few years crossing things off my bucket list while you waste your time believing in fan fiction that cannot happen.
Climate change > then crisis > then chaos > then finally catastrophe. We are at crisis stage now and irony is that we won't be able to stop catastrophe because
SOLUTIONS REQUIRE SACRIFICES.
SACRIFICES OF DAILY LIFE COMFORTS.
AND "COMFORT IS LIKE GRAVITY. ALL IT NEEDS IS A LITTLE PUSH" quote credit: Joker
Well said...we are not coming out of this alive.
I am entirely off grid. It hasn't required any sacrifices. Maybe you missed the part where renewables are cheaper than fossil fuel.
And then there is that little problem with the 1% who has resisted mass movements by the little people to do something about it for decades.
@@jemezname2259 going off grid requires sacrifice of daily life mingling and dependence for tasks on others which huge majority don't have courage or will to do and also even if they want to, I don't think 8 billion people can go off grid on habitable parts of earth 🤪. Probably possible when we were upto 1 billion
@@jemezname2259
Can you go off grid with 0 money in savings, living paycheck to paycheck?
I'm not happy to say this, but from all my consumption of this information over the years, it seems to me that scientists in the trenches of research on this topic know that there is no going back, and hope is indeed lost, and the only reason videos like this are being made is to try to inspire people to change, so that absolute disaster remains 80 years out (As an example), instead of our actions getting worse, which increases how fast absolute disaster arrives. In other words, things are bad, we are past the point of getting better, but we can at least avoid making it even worse than the current bad trajectory. I think of it like being 20 years old, and being told you will definitely die before you're 60 years old, and although it sucks, the goal is to not worsen your lifestyle and end up dying at 30yo instead...and then extend that example to the human population. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what my intuition and understanding reads from people like this presenter.
Yet, extremely few know this. It's not even the message in this video, which is actually very weird.
I just want people to know we're actually about to kill billions of people and lose this civilization.
I think you've got it about right. And the data keeps suggesting things aren't just getting worse but getting worse faster and faster. We're living in a SciFi film that ends badly. And sooner than expected.
Yeah, either the scientists are biased by their feelings of hope, or they know very well we're very screwed. I mean, with every bit of research that comes out it turns out that the problem was underestimated. All the observations consistently seem to be right at the worse side of the error bars.
I am not optimistic that our species is willing to take the required actions. Firstly, 'we' (the collective we) do not actually view ourselves as part of any collective. Secondly, too many individuals can't (or won't) even take actions (for just themselves) on a daily/monthly/yearly basis that they KNOW is necessary to have a future (addictions, inertia (laziness), and the high probability that they've already exhausted the resources ($) needed to yield better future for themselves or their offspring (education/learning a trade/etc.).
We are not a 'wise' species, yes we are clever, but at an individual level and not at a holistic level. While we have some individuals who are wise and can see the writing on the wall, their numbers are too few to bring the rest (kicking and screaming all the way) along to do what is necessary.
The Earth has gone through massive changes in its surface biological content many times (most of which absent of all but the most simplistic forms of life) and the Earth will proceed without us just the same. I hate any use of the phrase that we must 'Save the Planet' since 'The Planet' doesn't need saving, it is a very narrow set of environmental conditions that must be saved if Humans are to remain a viable species...but the universe (or even this tiny spec of such) won't care if this particular example of a pseudo-self aware biological entity overruns its petri dish and knew it was overrunning it near the end. Sad? to whom? and to those who would invoke a deity that 'cares' then I would speculate that if such existed it might simply shrug its shoulders and make a note to the effect 'ah,heck, another failure' before trying again.
科学家们越来越紧张，地球变化比预期快，我们低估了风险。急需行动，保护未来！
China needs to stop using so much energy especially when electricity was invited by Europeans and it is cultural appropriation for Asians to use it.
Jakie działania mogą zostać podjęte? Nie uważasz, że już za późno?
@@Bart-rp5kfgood question
@@bma1955alimarber For starters - stop voting for self serving morons on the right end of the political spectrum (though they are everywhere, just more there). Secondly, get involved in marches, start schooling your friends, family, and if you are motivated enough like me get a PhD that tries to come up with feasible solutions in literally any sector (mine was agriculture). There is not enough you cannot do. Individual actions like trying to limit your own footprint do very little, but the moment you get involved in a network and movement that is able to influence local and regional policies, you'd be surprised how much can be achieved. In my humble opinion we literally don't have a choice.
Thanks for this TED talk.
We can change bigger things, like manufacturing, ( we make so many useless items), like stop making war machines, stop warring actions, cut the work week by 1 day would save a lot of emissions, just to start. We don't have to figure it all out, but we absolutely must start. And we have 100s of good ideas to start with.
How do you get Putin to stop making war?
@@jemezname2259honor the agreement to keep NATO off Russia’s boarder
@@bobleclair5665yup
The war industry is a small part of the climate change. The biggest individual contribution is to switch to a plant based diet. Many of the issues he mentioned are attributed to the consumption of animal products, the 6th mass extinction, the deforestation of the Amazon, ~15% of global greenhouse gases which is more than all planes and cars, the entire transportation system combined
Animal agriculture is extremely damaging for the environment, second to energy production and no one talks about it because no one wants to hear it.
Russian propaganda at its finest.@@bobleclair5665
Damm the tipping points, Line MUST go up!
up up and off the charts
@@-LightningRod- Hi Lightnin'!
@@TennesseeJed
MrJed !
@@-LightningRod- really surprised my comment wasn't killed.
I Googled "Line"... got nuthin'
most people haven't even BEGUN the transition to clean energy because of their knee-jerk reaction to solar. "it's expensive and must be installed on your roof." it can be done smaller scale on the ground and affordably. around $500 gets everything needed to provide one power strip of clean AC. costs less than your vacation. diy solar everywhere plz hurry. best decision of my life.
Thanks🙂
In 2023, total fossil fuel consumption reached a record high worldwide, driven by a 2% increase in oil usage worldwide, and 1.6% increase in coal usage. Exceeding 40 gigatonnes of CO2 for the first time in history. In India, fossil fuel consumption was up 8% in 2023, 6% in China. We are not only not cutting emissions we are setting new records each year. Net zero is PURELY a pipedream!!!
China India and South America are unstoppable because the left is afraid of disciplining non-whites
Its not net zero is possible but as a society we choose not to
Our planetary pickle is heart-breaking. Planetary boundaries is a useful framework... but surprising that Roskstrom fails to put all the pieces together. Climate change (along with all the other planetary boundaries) are symptom predicaments of the fundamental predicament which is our ECOLOGICAL OVERSHOOT. Narrow focus on counting carbon in a futile attempt to address climate change is leading us to worsen overshoot. Attempting to continue powering this civilisation with any energy source will accelerate global biosphere collapse. Our human systems are in collapse because the earth systems we depend on are in collapse. We can only make things less bad by powering down this self-terminating techno-industrial civilisation. He's right about strapping in... it's not going to be a pretty. No solutions... just responses... build local community resilience. As the system breaks down and becomes overwhelmed by cascading and worsening crises, the only help available will be from your neighbours and local community.
If you haven't heard of ecological overshoot, learn about it and try to inform those around you. Our chance of mitigating the unimaginable suffering that is unfolding is dependent on as many people understanding this concept. William Catton's 'OVERSHOOT' should be mandatory reading for all humans who care about the community of life on this beautiful blue-green world.
Take courage. We have caused the problem. We are the only ones that can fix it. Consider humanity as an economic super organism. Change the reward system, change the results. Time to grow up and get to work. Read. Research global carbon reward on wiki.
And Vote
If you vote Republican. You vote for destruction.
Nice optimistic outlook but unlikely as governments and dictatorships are mostly run by old greedy selfish ppl who don't care about future, only their selfish present. Meanwhile wealth gap increases making everyday ppl focus on their own current present livelihood just to survive and make ends meet with surging cost of living from high real estate to food due to corporation greed which is basically due stakeholder and rich and powerful ppl's selfishness and greed. Lastly poor areas with lack of government support, ppl have no choice but resort to dirty energy such as coal or cutting down trees to burn wood, even if they want alternative green energy, and many don't even have the knowledge or education about environmental concerns such as global warming.
Yes. Hopefully we mankind survive our biggest enemies. Greedy old men.
Nothing on Earth has spent the last 2 million years adapting to the temperatures we are creating.
One key microorganism blooms of dies off, and humanity is gone.
Good luck.
Lol
They are Scared an invasive grass on an Antarctic island will make it to peninsula
Issue is stopping life not keeping the candle going in a tempest
I remember first hearing about climate change in the early 70s. Ever since it has been described as an environmental issue with the planet needing us to fix it. Turns out, we don't care as much about the environment as we do about GDP, or cheap airfares, or any other economic measure. Unless or until we find a completely new economic model to live by, or at the very least lose our fascination with endless growth, we are going to be that lobster in the pot.
Me too, they called it global cooling back then, we were all going to freeze to death, oil would run out by 2000, and Y2K would shut down all the computers.
@@user-jb2om7cm8m global cooling was never a scientific standpoint
Yes. From economic aspect we need more market regulations, we need labor unions and lower work hours, a lot higher taxation on passive incomes, the upvaluing of mental labor, and we should treat HDI and BHI as the metrics of development instead of growth.
Hilarious that the comments are void of the hopium that Ted is trying to push
I think many would agree with a different Ted if you know who I'm referring to
I'd rather listen to 10 hours of TED, than 2 minutes of Jeb! Bush.
People who believe the worst are getting frustrated that not everyone thinks the same way- so they double down that things are way worse than even the science suggests. It's a huge mistake as its just pushing more people away from the path of dealing with the problem, which then in turn makes them even more bitter.
It usually happens when Ted and Teded talk about climate change
We need more focus on the solutions. Like he said, there are a lot of solutions.
But we need to make the solutions multiply much more. For example I think a lot more improvements in battery tech really will change the outlook.
And the elephant in the room that STILL no one dares to mention is population growth. This planet can only sustain so many people, and we have surpassed that number already. And since legally enforced population control is easily the most vilified political issue out there, I see little hope in saving us from a complete collapse of civilization within the next century or so.
You're correct, overpopulation is at the foundation of almost every single threat facing humanity and nature. Warming isn't killing anything. Life flourishes under warming.
The path to reduced population numbers is achieved through education, empowering women, family planning, access to birth control and wealth creation. All of these things are proven to reduce family size, so there is hope yet. Cheers.
Even if the birth rate drops to zero we're still on track to wreck the planet in the next few decades.
All we have to do is work together....well I just lost all hope.
We could stop flying and driving-like during COVID. It’s “inconvenient” but remember how the air cleared, wild animals came out, people worked from home…
That would be a good start.
But nobody wants to give up traveling.
🕊️🙏🌎
or change profoundly their life style , sadly
We are right on track with the business as usual scenario from the 1972 MIT study The Limits to Growth. Imagine if politicians had heeded the warnings and implemented policy then instead of dismissing them. SAD!
lol, you actually cited that .
Back then, we were supposed to be extinct in 40 years. I signed up for L5 society in 1979 to live on geosynchronous space colony by 2000.
We had by popular vote Al Gore for president who was on top of it, and ahead of his time, HOWEVER, Electoral College stepped in and Bush won the election. Rinse and repeat with Trump and Hillary! It’s all about Greed,Denial, POWER! Watch an Inconvenient Truth/Al Gore and you’ll open your eyes! Many years ago
You need to do more googling about the crazy amount of predictions we made in the 70's and 60's and 80's. Then realize that NONE of them actually came true and then try applying that knowledge and doing some extrapolating on the current day predictions...
@@BarrGC few things did come true. Back in early 80s, many predicted Soviet will collapse and our Fed rate will be around 6% leading to huge economic boom. My first mortgage rate was 13% adjustable. They called it a war dividend.
Our Fed rate went to nearly 0% and we now complaint about 6% fixed mortgage and housing market tanks.
The best thing you can personally do to reduce your consumption is to eat a plant based diet. You don't have have to completely switch. But eating less meat, especially beef, will help the planet so much.
BRUHHH SIT DWN
There is no hope for you.
Farming is far more damaging to land and small animals than raising cattle.
@@-MAX813- how do you think humans grow food for livestock?
Not true. The most impact one can have individually in reducing CO2 emissions is to have one less child. The effect of not flying, veganism, replacing halogen lightbulbs, going car free pale into insignificance when compared to the effect of one less child. Ref: University of Lund Sweden study.
I’m investing in space mirrors now. It seems pretty obvious we won’t stop and the only solution will be to put a chunk of earth in the shade.
Adjustable so can warm. Reflect onto winter hemisphere
Meers ReflEction Proj is humanity's only hope.
@@karensavageau4622 MEER is cool but really more of an adaptation approach imo
@@DrSmooth2000 Are you crazy? The point is not to warm. The ENTIRE point is we are too warm. You need winter for current animal and plant species to be able to survive. You cant climate control Earth to room temperature ffs.
We'll do that by spraying sulphur into the atmosphere, not with space mirrors.
what we are going to get isn't a happy ending, what we are going to get is generalized conflicts. All the instructions on how to steps out of the hole are contradictory (ask ecologists about nuclear energy, and you will get i don't know how many different opinions). And that's without even understanding that every governing body on earth is competing against each other in some way, be it ideological, or economical.
we did it with the Ozone layer, that was sign that we're more than capable. It's our leaders who need to stick to their word when they say we're "transitioning" transition fasterrrrr
Transition to what ? I'm 100% for the environment but the govts are not in this for that. Feel free to look up anything I'm about to say, I appreciate if you will.
All Solar companies only offer (to my knowledge) "grid tied packages". So your house generates power, meter goes backwards. Then you use power, meter spins forward. No batteries. I know of 4 states that once they had enough ppl on a system, simply took away the equal KW pay. The ppl paid for the system, they produce power to the grid, and the residents bill keeps increasing. You will aslo never get a check and all states that I know has already made laws where you cant just set up a grid and panels to make money. Im sorry but thats a scam. Wind turbines use power to turn when the wind isnt extremely strong. They need a certain rotation per minute to generate power. The props bow if not. They are 20 to 35% efficient, 50% tops in high winds. Most off grid people use natural gas to fuel the high-energy appliances. Strange that now natural gas is the new enemy of "going green". The fact is, the govts push for a green deal very clearly is not about saving the environment
It is important that we embrace changing our societies and demand sustainability from our governments, corporations, and lifestyles. With enough political will the world can turn on a dime.
In the shadows of science, the Earth cries out,
A plea from the depths, where we’ve lost our doubt.
Years of alarms, now sounding the horn,
Our planet reshaped, our future forlorn.
Earth system scientists, their hands in the air,
Nervous and wary, a burden they bear.
For we’ve underestimated the speed of the storm,
Now witnessing changes that defy the norm.
We’ve breached the bounds, the planetary frame,
Where resilience falters, and we bear the shame.
Abrupt changes unfold, faster than thought,
In a world where stability is painfully sought.
The Paris accords, a decade gone by,
Yet the temperature climbs, as we reach for the sky.
1.2 degrees, a blistering rise,
A record heat that blinds our eyes.
But what’s worse is the pace, a terrifying trend,
Warming accelerates, where will it end?
If we keep on this path, we'll break through the veil,
To 2 degrees, where life begins to pale.
Beyond carbon alone, every element aches,
From freshwater drained to ecosystems’ breaks.
The sixth mass extinction whispers in the night,
As nature’s balance tips, lost in our sight.
Economic costs mount, human lives at stake,
In the heat, in the floods, as the Earth starts to quake.
$38 trillion lost by 2050’s dawn,
If we don't change course, the future is gone.
The ocean, once a buffer, now sounds the alarm,
Its warmth rises sharply, a sign of great harm.
In 2023, it veered off the chart,
A symptom of imbalance tearing apart.
Land loses its grip, no longer a sink,
The Amazon shifts, as the world starts to shrink.
The forests, the reefs, the ice sheets we mourn,
As tipping points near, and new climates are born.
The great acceleration, a tale of our time,
Where growth meets destruction, and nature’s fine line.
Scientists are shaking, their voices grow hoarse,
As they warn us to steer back on the course.
What will it take for us to see,
The perilous path that leads to the sea,
Where oceans rise and forests fall,
And humanity's future is a fragile call?
We must bend the curve, cut the emissions,
Navigate wisely through perilous conditions.
For five short years, the carbon clock ticks,
Before our planet faces irreversible tricks.
The path is clear, the science is strong,
We must act now, or we’ll face the wrong.
For the Earth is our home, our one true place,
And we cannot afford to lose this race.
In the hands of the few, the choice is laid,
To protect our world or let it fade.
And as the scientists urge, with nerves frayed and worn,
Let us heed their call, before the storm.
I appreciate the thought time and energy that you put in to produce this eloquent verse
Thanks
But don’t hold your breath waiting for collective humanity to heed the call
Too busy with an infinite number of other things to do more important to them
unfortunately, for the last 30 years, we have beed warned that we are driving at 200 km/h to the wall, we kept pushing on the accelerator. I am far from optimistic : getting a country to agree on something is a dire challenge..imagine getting 8 billion people stirring in the same direction ?
That's the purpose of the various COPs. And that why they move so slowly.
Already figured out things would be progressing more quickly than people said it would 30 years ago. We needed everyone on the planet to work together on this to stop things- now we need them all just to slow this down. Guess what? Humans won't come together for this.
Humans used to. We had acid rain killing forests and dissolving public buildings, and the scientists worked out what was causing the problem so we stopped doing that - and the trees grew back. We had a hole in the ozone layer, and the scientists worked out what was causing the problem so we stopped doing that - and the hole has been quietly healing ever since. I don't know why we lost that "we can change our ways" mood, but I want it back.
America, Europe, India, China, all responding to scientific evidence by passing new regulations and making their corporations drastically change what they were doing. We know we can do this as a species - so why aren't we doing it now?
Now nature will give us back what we gave it....😢😢
Indeed
@@Goodeonebro biosphere is happy
The Onondoga knew this
Somehow I can’t see us recovering from this. If anything, the situation will become worse and changes will happen faster than expected.
We live in a consumerist society run by capitalists who will do anything to keep making record profits. The environment is the last thing on their minds.
Very good overall view of the problem. Now we need a Part 2 video: What can each of us do right now?
Be kind to each other, look after your community, try to live as simply as possible. Reduce people's suffering as much as possible. That's all we can do
@@nigelhughes6096 Actually, we can do a lot each of us individually. Some of these things are: better insulate your home, heat with a thermopump, live close to work, use public transportation, eat less animal proteins, buy an electric car if you need a car, buy durable goods and take care of them instead of buy cheap throw-away goods, etc. This will go a good part of the way to solving the problem.
This is exactly what's driving climate change... Money and the capitalistic society we live in. If your county doesn't have a 3 to 5 percent gain every year, your county is doing terrible. Money is causing all this along with using fossil fuels, the mighty industrial complex, the mighty military complex, people wanting a huge house with a four car garage and a huge cottage with a 3 car garage,the ability to fly anywhere on the planet or take a cruise on a ship that uses the same amount of energy as a small city. Do you understand where I'm going with this. Oh yeah, let's not forget all the rockets launched that are a humongous pollution emitter.
Due to all this and the processes that we have started, like melting of all the ice on the planet and all the heat in the oceans and forest fires and methane released from permafrost will accelerated the climate catastrophe to an exponential rate. 2024 I'd definitely a tipping point in our climate, but the tipping points were passed in the late 1990s.
Exponential rate of global heating, and there's nothing to stop it.
What changes are you willing to personally make?
@@ASmithee67 Systemic issues can't be tackled by individuals' actions. We need systemic change.
Debt grows faster than the rate of natural regeneration. Exponential finance has always been a weapon of mass destruction.
@@dismiggo Like what? An eco-dictatorship, taking away the benefits and comforts that fossil fuels have brought to the world?
"Faster than we expected". "Greater than we expected". "Worse than we expected". Likely epitaphs for humanity.
Or the exact same phrases for the next invented crisis.
@@anthonymorris5084 Or the exact same phrases for the next extinction event and you won't listen to those EITHER, will you? DON'T LOOK UP!
@@kimweaver1252 What "extinction" event? Do you always engage in hyperbole?
I have (finally) made meaningful changes in my life and i hope to be an example to others living "middle class life" in America. I don't have a car, i bicycle everywhere to work, and i live in a compact apartment with shared walls for maximum energy efficiency. I only really eat meat on special occasions and don't incorporate it regularly in to my life. I shop and source as local as possible, and try to be resourceful to the maximum extent possible. Panier bags for groceries are a game changer.
Really great, you have done what a good citizen can do (I am personnally doing a bit less, tbf). Still another thing you can do for climate is this: VOTE for a politician that will acknowledge the reality of anthropic climate change and who will launch meaningful actions to develop renewables and stop the use of fossil fuels.
U are a hero already for trying. We all Should!
I have lived in SW Florida for thirty-seven years . Unmanaged growth , disrespect for the environment and it continues at a tremendous rate . There are developers and politicians in bed with each who just don't care .. $ over any common sense . I think that speaks to things in general . That mentality is catching up to us .
How come Florida's not under water yet?
Several issues with this talk:
1) Emotions, not facts and figures get people moving
2) The average citizen can only do so much. If our leaders don't act, we're doomed (and they seem more concerned with economic growth or fighting wars in Ukraine or Palestine)
3) We can only change our course if we change our economic system. Capitalism provides freedom of choice (50 variations of anything you can think of), but relies on constant growth in a system (our planet) that is finite. We must urgently find an alternative model. It will probably involve limiting some of our choices, but what is freedom of choice if the only choice is us heading towards a brick wall?
A sane civilization would have completely stopped burning oil thirty years ago. A sane civilization would have put a leash on capitalism 100 years ago
Putting a leash on capitalism has been tried (Soviet Union, Cuba, China etc.)
@@user-ds7uk1ft2xuncontrolled capitalism will eat everything in its path until there is nothing left
*Humanity will destroy Eden for Greed.*
when do we begin the war on greed? 120 companies, around the world, must be stopped.
Climate change is like watching your children get run over in slow motion when there's no reason to cross the road and you told them a million times not too..
It's up to all of US to vote this November for climate science and sanity.
Yes, but in the meantime we should be willing to turn down the AC and consume less. Blaming politicians should not excuse us.
Arctic (military) surveyors reported way back in the 50s that the temperatures UNDER the arctic were gradually increasing.
There was no obvious correlation with known natural events which could account for those observations.
Sadly neither major party represents a sustainable future. We need a complete restructuring of the global economy based on health instead of wealth. Realistically that's not going to happen since the forces firmly in control care only about wealth. The idea that we can create something like a "green economy" is just complete nonsense as currently proposed. The elites seem to understand there is no future for this civilization, so they're just continuing with policies that allow them the grab as much wealth as possible before the chaos ensues. We're living in a SciFi movie that doesn't have a happy ending.
Greed, Money, Capitalism, Control of the Political System, Ignorance of 50% of People Worldwide (or much more), and the Speed of Possible Corrective Action, leads to a Dim Outcome.
This is why there is no Fermi paradox. Every "intelligent" species destroys its world before it's able to contact another. Just like us.
When we are going to talk about the massive deforestation we are causing, and the massive under development in fire fighting forces.
We can destroy the whole planet in minutes, but we are barely buying good equipment to fight forest fires and save precious trees.
Canadair's are out of production (now they gonna produce some more in 2026 after 30 or so years), and the only fire fighting planes available for purchase are some expensive Japanese ones.
Our cities need solar panel roofs and some replanning to account for trees to reduce city temperatures. We have covered so much landscape in europe with concrete. Delhi in India reached 50C this May. (33 million people city with minimum trees)
Reducing CO2 emissions IS NOT ENOUGH whilst everything else is burning and forest life is reduced to absolute minimum.
and also war Calculate how much carbon footprint during the war in israel and in ukraine
area Gaza war out to 1,000 bombs dropped per day
looks like damage carpet bombing from space in these before-and-after photos
@@oza007only I wanted to say that too but what can you do..
Forest fires are a natural part of a forest's life-cycle. There are even several species of pine cone that won't open without the immense heat from a forest fire. Protect human developments from fires for sure, but stopping forest fires is irresponsible care-taking of the environment.
Reducing CO2 and CH4 emissions are the first and second highest priorities, of one hundred climate solutions we see in Project Drawdown's Climate Solutions 101 Roadmap.
Trees also pump water from underground with their roots, carry it to their leaves where it evaporates. This vegetal sweating releases moisture in the air, producing new rainfalls. To chop them down is one of the best ways to f**k up the climate. Amazonia natives have always known this and keep trying to warn us, but we are deaf. A worth read: Davi Kopenawa and Bruce Albert's "The Falling Sky". Above 55⁰C people start dying, after many other animals.
In Australia we had a Prime Minister not so long ago that dismissed evidence climate change as "absolute crap". I hope he lives long enough to eat those words. It won't matter for the rest of us though, we're all screwed because unfortunately he isn't alone in that view.
What's insane is how these people are allowed to operate in public and in polite society
and he was right.
@@juqual78 it's called freedom of speech sport.
@@juqual78. Insanity depends on who is right.
My good friend whom is a planet astroscientist told me that planets go through cycles and associated temperature consequences. Long time ago, bacteria and tiny organisms in oceans produced excess oxygens in water and made toxic carbon rich atmosphere to mammal friendly air. If human are by product of evolution and not supreme being that must survive on this planet, then our tiny production of CO2 will benefit next evolution.
I see few bullies who bomb innocent people driving WW2 era tanks and shooting DIY rockets. I am certain each DIY rockets produce more CO2 than my entire annual carbon footprint and each WW2 tank produce more CO2 than my lifetime carbon footprint. Stop the people who start a war and a terrorism. I love environmental Ukrainian army who drives EV drone to defend their homeland with recycled bombs.
Our current planetary temperature is about average for last million years, and below average for last billion years. Our planet was much hotter in earlier years of 4.5 billion years. We are not saving our planet, the Earth wants to be hotter to be in typical temperature according to scientists. Environmental scientists claims we are too hot, Astronomical Planetary scientists claims Earth is doing its average temperature.
I don’t know who is right. I do want my clean air and clean water, so I live in Green House with solar panel and drive less than most people.
@@axeman2638 I don't agree but that's immaterial. We (collectively) aren't doing enough to turn things around fast enough so we are definitely going to find out who is/was right and we aren't going to have to wait long.
I've been saying it for years, we could fix the problem but we wont. Now i don't think we can fix the problem, even if we stopped tomorrow the effects of the damage we have done we will feel for years to come.
I don't agree, but we do agree on one thing: live your normal life and hope the sky doesn't fall on us, as the alarmists constantly predict.
What gives me hope is that the vast majority of people around the globe finally has realized the urgency and enormity of the climate change problem. But clock is ticking, we need to take action now!
You can always count on Americans to do the right thing, only after they've tried everything else.
Unfortunately, Americans still haven't finished trying everything else (and it's already too late).
Yep, most people are aware about the situation. Nobody is doing the right thing. "But, i bought myself a Tesla." Yeah, right, buddy.
Nobody wants to change, everyone wants to be superior,
it's what we are.
its your bubble. most people are still either in denial, or thinking sth will come up to save us later on or they r not even aware of the severity of the issue
Some comments here just reflect the tactical evolution of climate change deniers.
Faced with the accumulating evidence, climate change deniers have adopted a tactic of retreat in stages but without ever losing sight of their sole objective: CLIMATE INACTION.
Position #1: There is no climate change
Position #2: There is climate change, but it is “natural”
Position #3: There is human-caused climate change, but its effects are actually beneficial
Position #4: There is human-caused climate change, but the cost of doing anything about it is too high relative to the benefits.
Position #5: It is too late to do anything anyway, we just have to adapt.
Stop blaming "deniers" for a problem you can't define & your lack of scientific solutions.
@@jennifersmith4864 1- We can't define??? : Warming is measured. The cause is known: an excess of CO2. The impact of CO2 is assessed with ever greater precision thanks to new studies.
2- Lack scientific solutions ??? : we need to reduce our CO2 emissions, hence substitute fossil fuels with renewable energy.
From "UN Climate": Prices for renewable energy technologies are dropping rapidly. Renewables-based electricity is now the cheapest power option in most regions. The cost of electricity from solar power fell by 85 percent between 2010 and 2020. Costs of onshore and offshore wind energy fell by 56 percent and 48 percent respectively. (IRENA).
So depending on the year and country, fossil fuels may remain the cheapest option, but affordability of renewables is improving fast.
@@franckr6159
No, no, no.
The definition of the problem would be
1. What is the climate supposed to be?
2. Why?
3. What is the climate now?
4. Then propose your solution backed by cost/benefit analysis, specifying time frames, costs, impact on quality of life, economies, etc.
So, if your solution is to stop burning fossil fuels, with "renewables" when like 90% of the energy the world uses is from fossil fuels, specify how you would stop fossil fuel usage.
Don't just say we need renewables --- there are no renewables, or you could say renewables will be available in like the year 2100 at a cost of $Xxxxx --- But that's not much of a solution if all your doomsday predictions are like the world ends in 2035, right?
And what is the impact of this solution, on society -- no more air travel? No more cargo ships, no more cars? Jobs? Quality of life? supply chain disaster? How many fewer hurricanes & floods? How much colder will the climate get? When??
What's the cost as opposed to other solutions?
& provide supporting data, sources & computations. And are you assuming that the rest of the world will agree to this or just the USA?
No offense but unless you can do this real science for all your "solutions" yer just throwing you know what against the wall, right?
Have I been clear?
@@jennifersmith4864 So let’s answer you (NOTA : I had already provided most of the answers to you in the previous days).
1. Ideally as it was during the 20th century, but it’s gone now. So let’s simply retain what we can
2. Why? To avoid too high temperatures which, if we do not strongly limit our CO2 emissions, will create a much less pleasant climate (check IPCC): more heat waves, more extreme weather, droughts in temperates areas, and areas becoming simply UNLIVABLE (equatorial-tropical areas where 3B people are living) due to the « wet-bulb temperatures » (unlivable for human beings from 35°C Tw - Nota : they are probably fine for dinosaurs, but we are not going to ask them 😉
3. What is the climate now? Moving fast towards dangerous levels (already +1.3°C vs pre-industrial times, going to +2.5°C at least, and if we do nothing on CO2 : +4.8°C by the end of this century (scenario from IPCC), knowing that +4°C was the temperature increase at the end of the last glacial period 12,000y ago : hence a HUGE climate change.
4. I already answered you on the « detailed costs - benefits », but I knew you wouldn’t care and indeed you are again asking the very same question to which you know that, given the complexity, nobody has a full detailed answer. Copy of my previous answer :
« Assuming your concern is genuine, the answer is provided in the 2000 pages of the « IPCC_AR6_WGIII_FullReport-1 » (reports of WGI (science) and WGII (impacts) are worth checking too). I tried to find a summary information, the one provided in figure SPM.7 seems to be on average (energy production, transport, building, industry…..) some 20 to 50 USD tCO2 eq-1. Indeed expensive but as I previously said, compared to what we would have to face if we were doing nothing on CO2 (in the coming decades: the heat waves, droughts, mass-migrations..... ) this is just PEANUTS ! Is the answer satisfying ? For more detail are you going to read in full these 2000 pages report ? »
Same for the impacts, the detailed answer is very complex, that’s why IPCC published 3 reports, each 2 or 3000 pages each.
I provided you already a list of what is renewable energy, copy of my previous answer: « SOLAR ENERGY. Solar energy is the most abundant of all energy resources and can even be harnessed in cloudy weather. ..., WIND ENERGY. ..., GEOTHERMAL ENERGY. ..., HYDROPOWER. ..., OCEAN ENERGY. ..., BIOENERGY »
How we would stop fossil fuel usage ? Gradually while building renewables infrastructure, so we need to strongly accelerate the move to green energy.
And renewables are getting more and more cost effective, see this :
From "United Nations - Renewable Energy" :
« Prices for renewable energy technologies are dropping rapidly. Renewables-based electricity is now the cheapest power option in most regions. The cost of electricity from solar power fell by 85 percent between 2010 and 2020. Costs of onshore and offshore wind energy fell by 56 percent and 48 percent respectively. (IRENA)
Renewable energy is gaining ground. Nearly 30 per cent of the world’s electricity currently comes from renewable sources of energy today, compared to 20 per cent in 2011 (IEA and REN21). The biggest share is hydropower, followed by solar and wind, bioenergy and geothermal power (REN21).
Renewable electricity generation grew by about 8 per cent in 2021, reaching 8,300 TWh (about twice the amount of electricity consumed by the United States in a year) - the fastest year-on-year growth since the 1970s (IEA). »
NO scientist said the world will end in 2035 (another stawman argument). Not one.
Impact on society ? Indeed a reduction of air travels and a reduction of part of the consumption. Is this a good news ? Certainly not. But compared to the catastrophy if were doing nothing to reduce CO2 this is a small price to pay.
Jobs, imports, supply chain….. : indeed a complete reorganization is essential. It will be complex but as it is a question of life and death, it will be feasible.
Cost compared to OTHER SOLUTIONS ? For God’s sake : which other solutions than reducing CO2 emissions ??
Rest of the World : people are ALWAYS reluctant to accept bad news and new constraints, always and everywhere. Do you believe we just « forgot » this ?? That’s why international cooperation is needed.
And stop this endless BS about China, just check on the web : « China continues to lead the world in wind and solar, with twice as much capacity under construction as the rest of the world combined » (from Global Energy Monitor).
Have I been clear?
@@franckr6159
1. So, there is no ideal climate, it's just whatever it is? Well, we're
there so stop complaining.
But why was the 20th century great? Why not the 19th or the 18th.
Please provide specifics. (Note - you just throw out this stuff with no reasoning or data back up.
What's "gone"?
Yer just giving me more predictions.
Let me remind you that in the 20th century "scientists"/alarmists were predicting such things as civilization will end in 10 to 15 years - Wald, Harvard biologist. 200 million people will starve to death in the next 10 years. 4 billion people would die in the "Great Die Off. Ehrlich. Watt - by the year 2000 there won't be anymore crude oil.
Nelson -- by 1995 80% of all species will be extinct. Things musta looked pretty grim in the 1970s!!
2. I asked "why" and you just give me more unfounded, unsupported predictions. What more extreme weather? What is "more extreme weather?
How much extreme weather is there now? How do you measure it? Provide specifics & back up data.
How many more droughts?
How many more heat waves? How many are there now? Is there an acceptable number of heat waves? What is it?
If you reduce co2 emissions by say 25%, how many fewer heat waves will there be? Show the math, please.
3. What is the climate now? You told me what you think it isn't.
4. I asked for a cost/benefit analysis & yer bottom line is "no one has a detailed answer". I rest my case.
I need you to select 1 "solution" like how about everyone is forced to be a vegan and tell me how many fewer hurricanes, droughts, mass migrations there would be if implemented, With costs & economic impacts. With back up data & computations. I assume gazillions of people worldwide would be unemployed & cattle by products used in many, many products, like lipstick & pet food will drive related businesses under. So, what is the effect on the economy??
Renewables -- I don't classify windmills & solar as renewable since they are in constant need of repair & replacement & that doesn't even consider their negative effect on the landscape, environment & wildlife. And they are not dependable. I agree with hydro but just try to build a dam & the environmentalists will have a cow. And they won't run planes, cars, trucks, ships, etc. I don't know enuff about ocean & geo energy to comment.
If reducing co2 is your goal, then there are many proposed "solutions" to reducing co2, ranging from making everyone be a vegan to banning gas stoves & pizza ovens.
Are they all of equal value? How does one select the most effective" or do you propose to do them all no matter how ridiculous or the return on invetment? Who's gonna do all this stuff? Where is the juice worth the squeeze?
China? They're building 2 coal plants a week!!
international cooperation ---- just saying we need international cooperation doesn't hack it. How are you gonna get it? When? What cooperation are you talking about?
"assuming my concern is genuine" --- my concern is like mega genuine & perfectly sensible --- which is why I am asking for this information. No offense but YOU should be asking the same questions if your concern is more than just complaining & throwing out doomsday predictions, don't you agree?
The science evidence is strong and clear. It is time to act now. For a just and safe future, I’ll say the first thing every government should do is STOP subsidising fossil fuels!
I hope your message can reach more and more people. We need to, for example, stop pretending that we can got to Mars and live there and divert that money to improving our climate situation. It’s going to take much more but it’s the only place we can live and the only place we have found that has life. Are we going throw that all away?
@@robertfallows1054 I know. The entire Mars thing is ridiculous. Neil deGrasse Tyson thinks it’s absurd that we want to terraform Mars and somehow handle the problems there that we can’t even handle here.
1. “The Earth is becoming less able to handle human activity, and we’re getting close to dangerous limits for several key systems.”
2. “Greenhouse gas levels are rising, and the loss of species is speeding up, showing that our environment is under severe strain.”
3. “We’re breaking many of the Earth’s natural limits, with carbon dioxide levels higher than ever, causing global warming.”
4. “We need urgent and major changes, including cutting greenhouse gas emissions quickly and protecting important ecosystems.”
5. “To ensure a sustainable future, we need to adopt sustainable practices and work together globally to tackle the climate crisis.”
6. “The choices we make in the next few years are crucial; they will decide how well the planet can adjust and recover from human impacts.”
1. Show me the scientific evidence for historical evidence that any of those key systems have actually "failed"
2. Show me the ecosystem that has collapsed due to a small percentage of species loss.
3. Show me scientific of these so called "Earth's natural limits". Heck, how about you show me a definition of them, let alone evidence that there are even any limits.
4. Show me the science that shows lowering CO2 will somehow "protect important ecosystems"
5. The only way the future can be sustainable is to sustain the human population. Are you volunteering to be one of those who needs to go in order to protect the planet?
6. We have been hearing this same thing for the last 30 years and yet here we are. No disaster, no ending. Why should anyone believe that statement when the impending predicted disaster has never materialized?
The Terrifying Cascading Effects
Crossing one of these boundaries does not mean just local damage; it could unleash global chaos. Imagine this: if the Arctic ice continues to melt, the planet’s ability to reflect sunlight diminishes, which accelerates warming. This triggers a feedback loop that spirals out of control. Once a tipping point is crossed, it’s like falling off a cliff-there’s no turning back.
The Amazon rainforest, which has served as the lungs of our planet, is rapidly approaching a tipping point. If we lose too much of it, the entire forest could transform into a barren savanna. The consequences? Global climate destabilization and the release of massive amounts of carbon dioxide, hastening climate collapse.
Melting ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica are another terrifying tipping point. If they reach a point of no return, sea levels will rise catastrophically, submerging coastal cities and displacing hundreds of millions of people. Imagine the chaos that would ensue: entire nations would be underwater, and the resulting refugee crises would overwhelm the world.
And right now German politics are considering huge subsidies for cars and making cities more car friendly. Can you please urgently present these results in a public forum to the state leaders. Cameras on them
They don’t care, don’t you see? If they would, they would have done something already, for example keeping your nuclear reactors instead of buying fossil fuel energy from other countries and claiming how green Germany is.
Unser nächster Kanzler - der Herr Merz - meint ja wir haben noch massig Zeit... total sinnlos... leider