Works still man! Its just for the tc500 for the surron light bee :) wont work on any other products. Tc500 for surron is currently outta stock anyway but when its back you apply the code at checkout and will automatically deduct the discount for you man!
Thanks mate, i really appreciate the support, I try to improve one thing each video, mic quality will be my next goal. I think the TORP is a 10/10 its gonna be the one to beat in 2024 thats for sure. Stay tuned brother💯💯💯
It’s definitely up there! It depends on budget but the tc1000 is now replaced the tc500 in their line up. I also like the vtb controller it works in the same way! Tc1000 keeps oem features and display whereas vtb gives new display - depends on your needs 👍🏻
Planning on getting a cheap used surron to flip and maybe try out the torp on it to give it some better performance for the next rider, looks nice but wondering if the eggrider breaks can you still use the bike and not a fan of how it looks on the bike compared to the bac, but yea might have to try it later on
You need to increase field weakening on aftermarket controller to max. My friend with same battery ok torp 58mph! Code: ‘stingy5’ for discount at TORP website 👍🏻
I have a surron 34ah Battery with tye new Nucular 24f . Can you help me to prog ? I have a protec at 69km/H and i dont know its for what ! ? Thanks in advance
Got my Torp controller about 3 weeks ago, running a 67v battery which has to be set at a maximum of 9kw on the controller but its a trail ridding weapon, brilliant bit of kit, just wondering if you've had anything to do with the vonkat rear shock, cheers.
Sounds good! 9kw should be plenty! On this bike and my talaria we both run EXT shocks but Vonkat was definitely a contender that we considered when purchasing. We are both fairly light riders and we know that on testing lots of reviews say that its better for the heavier riders so it put us off. If you are over 70kg it might be good for you though!
so this KW increase , is that peak KW or sustained KW ? Isn't the amount of power limited by the physical thickness of the wiring in the different systems ( battery , controller, motor) I wouldn't want to burn out the motor and we all know how lethal plasma fires are@@stingyrogerr
@ianmachon2455 the stock surron motor can take up to 14kw continuous for about 3 minutes non stop before it gets a bit warm and approaches high temp cutoff. ( youd have to be doing 75mph for 2-3 mins straight to hit this ) the torp for example pulls 8.5kw peak, - most brands use the peak figure as it sounds better lol! theres a big difference between peak and continuous, the stock surron pulls 4.8kw peak. You can see it through data logs. If you look at my other videos i have multiple bikes, stock power, 60v upgraded to 13.5kw and 72v 14kw. The motors are not an issue although we got water ingress with our stock surron motor so chose to replace it with a QS165 and is much better in terms of temperature thresholds and how cool it stays. As offroad, enduro &mx riders we find 12kw to be the sweet spot only bumping up to 14 or so when drag racing or travelling on the roads occasionally. If you come from a standard bike you will think 12kw is insanely fast. Anything over 14kw is a bit pointless personally. I see people pushing ‘17+’ kw online but when riding with these people in real life they are the same speed and sometimes less powerful as our 13kw settings we personally spent time perfecting as they are quoting the ‘peak figure’ they select on their controller but the battery never delivers it. And their display will tell them theyre making 17kw but in reality they are not, its just done to hype up the customer when they look at their displayed power on their eggrider to make them feel like the $1500 controller was worth it over the $800 BAC that will state 12kw and be just as fast 🤣 Its a fine balance but the torp is a great and very interesting product for those who want to keep their stock battery. Been riding these bikes past 4 years done over 10,000 miles in the past 24 months and never had a fire or any issues on multiple upgraded bikes.
Cutting the green wire to unlock sport mode is fine, this is just part of the wiring harness for the bike and everyone does it. When you take the battery apart and you connect 3 extra wires to bypass the safety device is dangerous. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
@@stingyrogerr Im gonna pull the trigger on my first bike. I'm super indecisive 🤣 I wanted the surron and then E ride or Talaria. I think you've pulled me back to Surron. What would you recommend doing? You seem to have a lot of experience with E bikes, Thanks!
@trey_dizzle4161 brother the list of mods is unlimited! If you check my talaria out it has mods the public don’t have available to them but its still never finished!! Just don’t get too sucked into the mod rabbit hole! A set of offroad 19/16 wheels, some suspension (forks) and power mods are the main 3 you need bro!
@trey_dizzle4161 it depends on your budget and if you want to upgrade, i have both surron and talaria. My talaria and surron both maxxed out 20+kw. If i was going to pick a bike today to leave stock it would be ventus bike followed by eride pro ss followed by the talaria mx4 then lastly surron light bee. For mods, i would pick the talaria or surron first as the used market means you can pick one up cheaper, then you can also find more parts and upgrades available. If you are picking between surron and talaria for mods I’d say go with what you like the look of best as they both become much the same once maxxed out. Hope this helps
@@stingyrogerr appreciate you getting back. I’m doing my bike illusion green off of prismatic that’s why I was wondering I thought it might have been it but I think mine will be a little darker. Good day bud
@kaysonbaloun5019 its funny you say that as its just a tweaked version of illusion green from prismatic!!! thats what it is based on! He just wanted it to look slightly lighter! And no worries my pleasure dude 👍🏻
Its said to be 7.3kw but many people run it at 9.3kw peak no issues! Although i believe torp have discontinued the tc500 but the code still works on the tc1000
Yeah you can get road legal and non road legal UK versions. We just ride on private access roads around our farm land property and our fields in this video which we share with a few other houses, its a large area spanning almost 10sq miles. You can ride where you like although better evaluate the area you live, police presence, amount of off-road land available where people aren’t walking that you can disturb. If you live in a city centre I would not bother with one of these as they will be stolen, seized or just become boring as you will have nowhere to explore.
It will do in the near future - they are currently still working on the firmware version for the talaria. They expect it to release in the coming weeks so stay tuned brother! 🤞🏼🤘🏻
I think with a bit of downhill and 48t sprocket you might hit 60mph! Definitely on flat 58+! I got a discount code which is ‘Stingy5’ if you want a discount from TORP direct. They come within 3 days so super quick 👍🏻👍🏻
Yeah man after releasing the light bee controller they made the mx4 version and lastly the mx3 version although the discount code won’t work on those two
if you wanna mount your phone on your bike i can recommend getting an insurance for your phone as well. its not expensive. and i mean if you can afford to mod your surron you should be just fine with a few more bucks well spend.
rather than limiting the motor current you should limit the battery current (to restrict the power) that way you'll get all the torque (at lower speeds) but still only draw 7kW
Yeah man, you’re right.. but the QS165 motor technically shouldn’t have even worked on the TC500 as the firmware wasn’t out back then and this was the only way to keep it smooth! I think they have now fixed that on their beta update tho! We run the QS165 v2 motor because our stock one broke on the surron and sotion on the Talaria
Has any one tried this controller on the sting r as it brings it up to 11.5kw on stock battery, would like to see speed difference between surron and sting r with this controller
The sting R is considerably heavier and I believe a 9kw surron will be just a touch slower than mx4 at 11.5kw The nucular p24f is great on the mx4 and gets you to 11kw also with the bonus of the 2.5” lcd display. Ive raced a bypassed mx4 at 11kw vs tc500 38ah surron and was neck and neck but that extra 500w the torp gives would just edge it although the surron wins for top speed as the mx4 was still only getting to 55 vs 60 on the surron These sort of controllers are a great middle ground before upgrading then battery also :) hope this helps
No you do not need them controller works with or without any of the unnecessary wires and sensors :) ‘stingy5’ at checkout with TORP gets the cheapest price on the web :)
much apriciated, only thing stopping me pulling the trigger, was waiting to see if there was a black friday sale but maybe wait and see if theres anything in the new year😂
Sorry man! Restricted to non copyright music! Although my newer videos have better music and quality as I now pay a subscription for better copyright free music and have a professional camera :)
Doesnt look the best but its a ‘float’ seat which is 40% taller to allow for the 72v 55ah battery - otherwise the battery sticks up too high and is uncomfortable. It would look nice with a seat cover but only thrill seekers make one for the float seat and they take 8 weeks and cost $150 plus import for a cover 💔
I have a KO on my talaria, if you check my channel out the other videos we have some on our builds and list all the mods, the KO for talaria is great but TORP would be my choice for surron now after testing it. Thanks for watching 🤘🏻💯
Guys use code ‘Stingy5’ at checkout for 5% off the light bee TORP TC500 😍
webshop.torpmotors.com/product/tc500/
Lol do you even off road you tool? What's the point of more power if all you do is ride on the road? 😂
Your coupon code doesn’t work anymore homie
Works still man! Its just for the tc500 for the surron light bee :) wont work on any other products. Tc500 for surron is currently outta stock anyway but when its back you apply the code at checkout and will automatically deduct the discount for you man!
Another great video man. Good to see the Torp on the 72V!!! Thanks for the mention as well bro. Need to get another ride organised soon.
💯💯 runs great on your setup too. Such a good product
great video, good to hear all that info and defo pushing me towards torp! think the videos get better each time bro keep it up
Thanks mate, i really appreciate the support, I try to improve one thing each video, mic quality will be my next goal. I think the TORP is a 10/10 its gonna be the one to beat in 2024 thats for sure.
Stay tuned brother💯💯💯
Really informative video! Definitely interested in checking out this brand 👍🏼
Thanks for watching it is a really impressive package!
Do you think the tc500 is still the best controller for the stock surron in 2025 ????
It’s definitely up there! It depends on budget but the tc1000 is now replaced the tc500 in their line up. I also like the vtb controller it works in the same way!
Tc1000 keeps oem features and display whereas vtb gives new display - depends on your needs 👍🏻
Planning on getting a cheap used surron to flip and maybe try out the torp on it to give it some better performance for the next rider, looks nice but wondering if the eggrider breaks can you still use the bike and not a fan of how it looks on the bike compared to the bac, but yea might have to try it later on
Is this fine on stock motor tho and stock batter 32ah I get 43mph flat what could I expect ?
You need to increase field weakening on aftermarket controller to max. My friend with same battery ok torp 58mph!
Code: ‘stingy5’ for discount at TORP website 👍🏻
great video. what is that ratchet screwdriver made by? What's your top speed with the upgrade compared to before the upgrade?
Standard GPS top speed is 46mph, after the upgrade with a 38ah battery rose to 59mph GPS🤘🏻
The ratchet is a wera zyclops. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Great video !
Thanks broski! Appreciate it 💯🤘🏻
Nice video bro
My bro 💯
I have a surron 34ah Battery with tye new Nucular 24f . Can you help me to prog ? I have a protec at 69km/H and i dont know its for what ! ? Thanks in advance
You need to adjust your settings please message me on instagram - my name is ‘@stingyrogerr’
Got my Torp controller about 3 weeks ago, running a 67v battery which has to be set at a maximum of 9kw on the controller but its a trail ridding weapon, brilliant bit of kit, just wondering if you've had anything to do with the vonkat rear shock, cheers.
Sounds good! 9kw should be plenty!
On this bike and my talaria we both run EXT shocks but Vonkat was definitely a contender that we considered when purchasing. We are both fairly light riders and we know that on testing lots of reviews say that its better for the heavier riders so it put us off. If you are over 70kg it might be good for you though!
so this KW increase , is that peak KW or sustained KW ? Isn't the amount of power limited by the physical thickness of the wiring in the different systems ( battery , controller, motor)
I wouldn't want to burn out the motor and we all know how lethal plasma fires are@@stingyrogerr
@ianmachon2455 the stock surron motor can take up to 14kw continuous for about 3 minutes non stop before it gets a bit warm and approaches high temp cutoff. ( youd have to be doing 75mph for 2-3 mins straight to hit this ) the torp for example pulls 8.5kw peak, - most brands use the peak figure as it sounds better lol! theres a big difference between peak and continuous, the stock surron pulls 4.8kw peak. You can see it through data logs.
If you look at my other videos i have multiple bikes, stock power, 60v upgraded to 13.5kw and 72v 14kw. The motors are not an issue although we got water ingress with our stock surron motor so chose to replace it with a QS165 and is much better in terms of temperature thresholds and how cool it stays.
As offroad, enduro &mx riders we find 12kw to be the sweet spot only bumping up to 14 or so when drag racing or travelling on the roads occasionally. If you come from a standard bike you will think 12kw is insanely fast. Anything over 14kw is a bit pointless personally. I see people pushing ‘17+’ kw online but when riding with these people in real life they are the same speed and sometimes less powerful as our 13kw settings we personally spent time perfecting as they are quoting the ‘peak figure’ they select on their controller but the battery never delivers it. And their display will tell them theyre making 17kw but in reality they are not, its just done to hype up the customer when they look at their displayed power on their eggrider to make them feel like the $1500 controller was worth it over the $800 BAC that will state 12kw and be just as fast 🤣
Its a fine balance but the torp is a great and very interesting product for those who want to keep their stock battery. Been riding these bikes past 4 years done over 10,000 miles in the past 24 months and never had a fire or any issues on multiple upgraded bikes.
you can also change the sproket to gain more top speed or faster exelaration
Yes gear ratio change :)
So is it bad for your stock bike when you cut the wire for the battery? 🔋
Cutting the green wire to unlock sport mode is fine, this is just part of the wiring harness for the bike and everyone does it.
When you take the battery apart and you connect 3 extra wires to bypass the safety device is dangerous.
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
So you do think its safe to use the stock battery? Also can you pop the wheel up super easy with stock?
@@trey_dizzle4161yes and yes!!
@@stingyrogerr Im gonna pull the trigger on my first bike. I'm super indecisive 🤣 I wanted the surron and then E ride or Talaria. I think you've pulled me back to Surron. What would you recommend doing? You seem to have a lot of experience with E bikes, Thanks!
@trey_dizzle4161 brother the list of mods is unlimited! If you check my talaria out it has mods the public don’t have available to them but its still never finished!! Just don’t get too sucked into the mod rabbit hole!
A set of offroad 19/16 wheels, some suspension (forks) and power mods are the main 3 you need bro!
@@stingyrogerr I should have been more specific. If you're buying a new bike today what bike would you pick?
@trey_dizzle4161 it depends on your budget and if you want to upgrade, i have both surron and talaria. My talaria and surron both maxxed out 20+kw. If i was going to pick a bike today to leave stock it would be ventus bike followed by eride pro ss followed by the talaria mx4 then lastly surron light bee.
For mods, i would pick the talaria or surron first as the used market means you can pick one up cheaper, then you can also find more parts and upgrades available.
If you are picking between surron and talaria for mods I’d say go with what you like the look of best as they both become much the same once maxxed out.
Hope this helps
Hey man I was wondering what color green that is?
Its called - porsche jet green metallic! He chose it after his favourite car colour!
@@stingyrogerr appreciate you getting back. I’m doing my bike illusion green off of prismatic that’s why I was wondering I thought it might have been it but I think mine will be a little darker. Good day bud
@kaysonbaloun5019 its funny you say that as its just a tweaked version of illusion green from prismatic!!! thats what it is based on! He just wanted it to look slightly lighter! And no worries my pleasure dude 👍🏻
thanks dude. What are this wheels size pls ?
19/16” wheels 👍🏻
Whats the max kwh i can pull onna stock 60v 40ah with the tc500?
Its said to be 7.3kw but many people run it at 9.3kw peak no issues! Although i believe torp have discontinued the tc500 but the code still works on the tc1000
Do you think that this controller I better than the BAC 4000?
Yes, i do… for ease of use and power delivery! It is also much cheaper and the online support is leagues above any other 🤘🏻
Would one of them fit on my post office van 🤔🤔🤣🤣
@tonyherrera2146 might do not sure 🧐🤣
So much better, cleaner easier install too
@DeruginizCLS i have a nucular P24F to test next week so stay tuned if you’re into upgraded bikes and specs 🤘🏻
Can u just ride them on the road. Or do u need a plates or something
Yeah you can get road legal and non road legal UK versions.
We just ride on private access roads around our farm land property and our fields in this video which we share with a few other houses, its a large area spanning almost 10sq miles.
You can ride where you like although better evaluate the area you live, police presence, amount of off-road land available where people aren’t walking that you can disturb. If you live in a city centre I would not bother with one of these as they will be stolen, seized or just become boring as you will have nowhere to explore.
@@stingyrogerr thx bro
Would this work with a Talaria too?
It will do in the near future - they are currently still working on the firmware version for the talaria. They expect it to release in the coming weeks so stay tuned brother! 🤞🏼🤘🏻
@@stingyrogerr Sick! looks promising 👌
Is pairing the controller to your stock battery gonna make the battery wear down more and decrease range?
Nope. Within the cell’s capabilities 👍🏻
how is it so small compared to all the other controllers?
The unit itself (black box with electrical inside) is about half the size, its not much larger than your palm.
I have no idea how/why 😅
Do stock display work with this controller ?
Yes but it also comes with new display.
Back r18 or r16 ?
R16. 19/16 is the best size for these bikes. Anything larger is too cumbersome especially on the rear swing arm starts flexing terribly
2:47 what screwdriver is that it looks dope
Hi mate its a wera zyklops :)
@@stingyrogerr thanks man
Great video! I'm close to pulling the trigger on the Torp. Im running a 34ah battery. What do you think the top speed will be?
I think with a bit of downhill and 48t sprocket you might hit 60mph! Definitely on flat 58+!
I got a discount code which is ‘Stingy5’ if you want a discount from TORP direct. They come within 3 days so super quick 👍🏻👍🏻
@@stingyrogerr nice! & thanks for the code!✌🏾
does this work on the sting mx3?
Yeah man after releasing the light bee controller they made the mx4 version and lastly the mx3 version although the discount code won’t work on those two
Is that the stock motor with the 72v battery
Its a Qs165 motor in this video ! And yes 72v
Yoo, you're clearly in the UK. Why are you using MPH and not KPH?
Yo, We use mph in the uk. 🤣 i think you are getting us confused with aussies 🦘
if you wanna mount your phone on your bike i can recommend getting an insurance for your phone as well. its not expensive. and i mean if you can afford to mod your surron you should be just fine with a few more bucks well spend.
rather than limiting the motor current you should limit the battery current (to restrict the power)
that way you'll get all the torque (at lower speeds) but still only draw 7kW
Yeah man, you’re right.. but the QS165 motor technically shouldn’t have even worked on the TC500 as the firmware wasn’t out back then and this was the only way to keep it smooth! I think they have now fixed that on their beta update tho!
We run the QS165 v2 motor because our stock one broke on the surron and sotion on the Talaria
Has any one tried this controller on the sting r as it brings it up to 11.5kw on stock battery, would like to see speed difference between surron and sting r with this controller
The sting R is considerably heavier and I believe a 9kw surron will be just a touch slower than mx4 at 11.5kw
The nucular p24f is great on the mx4 and gets you to 11kw also with the bonus of the 2.5” lcd display. Ive raced a bypassed mx4 at 11kw vs tc500 38ah surron and was neck and neck but that extra 500w the torp gives would just edge it although the surron wins for top speed as the mx4 was still only getting to 55 vs 60 on the surron
These sort of controllers are a great middle ground before upgrading then battery also :) hope this helps
Anyone know what the cost of customs import to the uk is?
Often with these parts you dont have to pay it as they sneak through but if you do its 23% for VAT and customs fee
@@stingyrogerr appreciate the quick reply, going to order tonight 👊 torp are usually on it with the dispatch and delivery times aren’t they?
@willew0764 torp are super fast usually! Should be with you within 3 days! Also use code ‘stingy5’ at checkout for the surron tc500 for a discount :)
@@stingyrogerr will be doing 👍 appreciate it
@@stingyrogerr on the website about to order now, inputted your code, says applied but hasn’t reduced the price?
Edit: sorted now all working
Trumoto controller or tc500
Ive no experience with trumoto unfortunately. But tc500 is very good :)
@05:05 battery monitoring system LUL
Battery management system ☠️🤣 oops.
My brake wire have been torn, do i need then for this controller?
No you do not need them controller works with or without any of the unnecessary wires and sensors :) ‘stingy5’ at checkout with TORP gets the cheapest price on the web :)
@@stingyrogerr ohhh shitttt hell yeah thanks
just need torp to give you guys a discount code to give us😂👀👌
Haha very true! I will contact them and see if this is something they can do! I like passing on any discounts I can share with you guys! 🤘🏻👍🏻
much apriciated, only thing stopping me pulling the trigger, was waiting to see if there was a black friday sale but maybe wait and see if theres anything in the new year😂
thank you for a good video! shit music tough :D
Sorry man! Restricted to non copyright music! Although my newer videos have better music and quality as I now pay a subscription for better copyright free music and have a professional camera :)
This shows in stock form they detuned massively
Yeah 100% but its the bms controlling it and saying no only 5kw peak. Bit like remapping the ecu to produce more power and timing using the turbo
Sorry but not a fan o that seat… gutts……
Doesnt look the best but its a ‘float’ seat which is 40% taller to allow for the 72v 55ah battery - otherwise the battery sticks up too high and is uncomfortable.
It would look nice with a seat cover but only thrill seekers make one for the float seat and they take 8 weeks and cost $150 plus import for a cover 💔
@@stingyrogerr
But a very comfortable seat?
@bluesintirol very
bought a KO motor and controller. maybe I should've gotten the torp. now I gotta upgrade my battery. getting expensive
I have a KO on my talaria, if you check my channel out the other videos we have some on our builds and list all the mods, the KO for talaria is great but TORP would be my choice for surron now after testing it.
Thanks for watching 🤘🏻💯
Do you think that this controller I better than the BAC 4000?
Yes, this is the only controller on the market that communicates with the stock surron BMS
Do you think that this controller I better than the BAC 4000?
Yes! By far!!