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Andrew Moy: Two Handed Rods in the Salt
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2010
- In this video Andrew Moy talks about 2 handed rods, their use while fishing saltwater, and casting techniques.
To schedule casting lessons with Andrew, please visit us at www.tightlinesflyfishing.com.
Best tutorial for casting a 2 handed rod for saltwater use thank you Andrew!
Really enjoyed listening and learning from this guy...great video :-) !!!
Great video
Thanks for this and all your videos! I've fished single hand rods for quite a while now but lately I've taken interest in fishing for Striper here on the West Coast (nor cal) and up there, there is some heavy surf and current so a two hand rod is a big advantage to be able to throw heavier grain weights and get more distance. I'm still working on it but this tutorial has helped me immensely. thanks again!
Hi Coboldude, thank you, I'm glad you like the video! The Beulah 8/9 surf is much more powerful then the CND 9/10. Although the CND is considered a 9/10 it takes a 10 weight outbound best (approximately 425 grains) and is fairly soft. The Beulah 8/9 has much more power and takes a 12 weight outbound best (approximately 510 grains). So they are both great rods, but the CND is a much lighter rod in terms of power, don't get confused by the line ratings on the two rods.
Thanks thats a great casting technique! I'm only 5'3" and get pretty tired casting 9 wts all day. This looks like just the thing!
Very well done, very clear. Wish I'd seen this back when you first made it. I used to teach, so when I say it's good instruction, I know what I'm saying. BTW, my brother is Carter Andrews, you can google him. Let me know if you'd like to get connected with him. He just got finished with a shoot in the lower Chesapeake, and he's now moving down the coast with his film crew/production team.
@Braindead974
Yes, 110' is easy with proper technique. Like any fly rod, if the technique is incorrect the results will reflect. For the 9/10 we were using the Airflo 11/12 beach line (535 grains). That line isn't built anymore, but any shooting head in the 500-575 grain range should work well. Obviously, some will work better then others. The Sharkskin tarpon line should work well, but I haven't tried it. The Airflo Scandi Compact 540 grain works great, tips can be added to sink.
Nice video.
What line would you recommend for use surf casting with a Redington 8wt Switch Rod? I can't find anything that seems heavy enough.
I just Found this Andrew. This makes plenty of sense to me!
Thank you Tom. Glad to be of help to you
Hi, I would go with the 8/9. The 8/9 is heavy enough to handle a head over 500 grains but light enough to enjoy smaller fish. It is the most versatile size in the lineup.
Hi when your new to double handed casting can you practice it on grass or snow or will the flyline/shootingline be damaged?
i got a spey rod 12'6 light action 9/10wt what line would be good to use with it
and what is the difference between spey line and the line for single rods
good video, but not enough on which hand controls the line. do you control the line with the bottom hand or the top hand? or both? it seems like you change it up
THanks, what do you think of loomis specialized 11.3 12/13wt surf rod ???
Great intro! How does that rod compare to the CND 1109 Oceana?
Hi,
Spey lines are much heavier then single handed lines and the tapers are often different. For example, an 8 weight single handed line will weigh approximately 270 grains and an 8 weight spey line, 540 grains. If your rod is a true 9/10 it will probably take somewhere between 575 and 700 grains depending upon the rod. Could you be more specific with the model of the rod and what you're going to use the rod for? I can then assist you with the correct line for your rod and applications.
i gotta question if im fishing bright salmon and small mouth basswhat would be a great cheap starter 2hand rod for me and im also 14
Thankyou,
Hi,
With two handed rod and overhead cast... Is it easy to cast over 110 feet ???
For beulah 9/10, what did you use in line ??? do you think sharskin tarpon wt12 or 13 S is a good choice ???
best regards
Phil
how does the line not knot up on the floor?
Thanks, excellent explanation, when searching for two handed casting it is quite difficulet to find info about overhand casting, all You find is spey casting....
I'm struggling a bit with the leader/fly catching the line when shooting, but I'll try these tips next time....
Hi. Sorry for the very late reply. I realized I missed some of these comments a few years back. If you’re still working on the overhead cast, try to relax, slow down and make your cast smooth and continuous. This should help the tailing loops.
Thanks, Your video helped me a lot back then, however, something else that helped me (in case someone else is struggling), is to have a longer leader, I was thinking a short leader would be easier to control, but actually a long leader dampen the swirling etc in the back stroke....
Another thing is that my fly leader and shooting head tended to land in a pile, I tried to form a small loop with the upper hand to create some resistance when shooting, but it was very hard to control, but then someone told me to put the rod in an angle after the forward stroke, that way there will be some resistance in the rod, which is very easy to dose by changing the angle of the rod....
Any way, thanks for the video, it was the only one to be found about two handed overhand casting back then, and there's a lot less work in using a two hander by the coast, which is good if one have back or shoulder problems, or just want to relax fishing, rather than doing thát fitness double haul....😂
Looking at getting into two handed fly casting, what is a good rod for the money? Mostly targeting Spanish mackerel, bluefish, red drum, and speckeled trout here on the north Carolina beaches.
Hi Bradley. One rod that stands out as a good value for saltwater two-hand casting is the Redington Chromer. The blank is ideal for both overhead and spey casting. The rod is very light and lively and is capable of throwing tremendous distance. For the fish you mentioned, the 11'6" 8 weight would be ideal. I can help with lines that will perform best on the rod for your applications. If you would like to discuss your options, as there are certainly others, you can also call me at 973 979 7600. Thank you, Andrew
Been using a 14' 10wt spey rod and a 700gr 30' floating line and 725gr 40' intermediate sink line. I like it alot and can launch line out, but i think im going to scale down to a 8wt switch rod, i want to reduce rod weight and line weight, but I also dont want to compromise ability to shoot into those strong louisiana wind coming from the Gulf of mexico.
Hi. I would not be afraid to downsize your rod. The short heads you’re casting will not require a 14’ rod. I think you will find the casting much easier with a lighter more compact rod. You will need lighter grain lines. An 8 weight switch will carry between 475 and 575 depending upon the rod’s power.
Tight Lines,
Andrew
It's a great rod. It will feel like a 12/13, because that is what it is. What are your objectives, where will you be fishing and for what? You may be able to obtain the same results with a lighter version if you're concerned about over powering the fish. They also make a 10/11.
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