I keep getting questions about how this tractor is holding up after having it for a year. I made a brief video summarizing my answer here ruclips.net/video/mYWJNf-iokg/видео.html
Just got my E170 today and felt the same thing about the gas tank floating... disappointment that it was messed up. Glad to see it’s supposed to be that way. Thanks for saving me a few calls. Thanks for the video.
Awesome Video…. lmao was going through same thing paused video halfway as was getting call back from Home Depot, where they told me John Deere assembles and doesn’t let them touch, and then your video explained why.
Thanks much Bluelightbandit! I had that same sinking feeling when I noticed the excessive play in the tank on my new JD E160 lawn tractor, but your video has put me more at ease. Especially since you actually heard back from John Deere. I purchased mine at Home Depot. Would be nice for JD to include a section on the floating gas tank in the tractor manual, or at least the salesman be aware of the expected concerns and give the customer a heads up before purchase, especially if it's a new untested design. I'm sure with a full tank there will be less play, but it does still really feel like there's excessive play. If it is a new untested design will just have to wait and see. Hopefully any issues will be noticed before two years and 1 day or 121 hours whichever comes first. :-)
Richard Nawyn Ahh YES! Mission accomplished! That was my entire motive for making this video, to put someone else's mind at ease that had the same concerns that I did. Thanks for your comment! Also, there's a guy that left a comment on this video that stated that the D series tractors were also like this fyi.
I sent mine back to Lowes and had them deliver another. Only to realize same situation. Yes, JD needs to put this out there to avoid situations like this.
Excellent comment!! What sold us was the thickness of the gauge of the metal and "V Twin 22 HP Engine, per my dad lol. We too are happy with the purchase. We thought the same exact thing about the gas tank and even went to the store upset to check and or return! Lol obviously we didn't. But this video from Bandit and your comment made us way more comfortable. So thanks!! 😁
Like the video,, one small gripe I do have with JD's and this is one that you might want to look closer at,, is why doesn't JD bolt the battery down? A wire tie? REALLY????? @@Bluelightbandit
I bought an E100, I have the same problem. I looked at the schematics and found that All the parts were mounted. Thanks for your video. It was a head scratcher. I haven't used mine yet. It wont stop raining.
I bought the E180 about two months ago. While the kid at Lowes was trying to get the owner's manual off the fuel tank I thought he busted the tank. OK it floats and makes a gauge you cannot even see between your legs move up and down. For what we spend on this stuff, you think an electronic gauge is asking too much? Not sure I like all the pressure it takes on the throttle to hold it in choke either. Deck wash is not effective. Like other commenters I am not all that keen on the 30 second oil change system (expensive $$$). The good to show I am not a total complainer: Sharp turn radius. Thick heavy deck. Chews right through heavy or damp grass without slowing down a lick. Goes uphill as fast as it goes downhill with power to spare. Seems comfortable enough. As far as that reverse safety - put connectors on a single wire and jumped it. No problem. Overall: I think (so far) I am getting my money's worth.
Great comment, thanks! I agree with you that they should install a decent fuel gauge, I mean how much more would it add to the cost? I can't imagine it being too much. I bypassed my reverse override switch and that was the best 5 minutes I have ever spent! Yeah, the tight turning radius is pretty awesome 😁
The X series mowers you can get at dealers have electronic fuel gauge. I agree and I wouldn't think it would have cost that much more for the manufacturer to add it.
Yes, the mechanical fuel gauge is something of a joker but in this price range I guess I can't fault it for the simplicity. I got rid of both the RIO and seat safety switches, they were pains in the neck but I understand they have to put them there for liability from those with no common sense. Turn radius is awesome as you mentioned, the machine is very comfortable, and the cut quality is excellent.
FOLLOWUP: I was at Lowe's to pick up a double GFCI outlet for my new LG washer with sidekick, and for kicks on my way into the store I stopped at all the John Deere tractors for sale out front and tested the gas tanks on each one. There were six altogether - an E100, two E110's, an E120, E140 and E150 - ALL had the excessive play in the gas tank. So I think the entire E100 series have that tank technology. Still think JD should mention this somewhere in their owners manuals.
Richard Nawyn Thanks for the follow up info! I talked with someone that has a D Series and they advised that theirs was the same way. You're right though, JD should mention this to it's customers.
The reverse lockout is easy, since some people are stupid and lazy and don't look behind them they put a nanny switch on it. Look on the back side of the dash, the wires just plug in. To verify if yours is the same as my 5 yr old D130 unplug it and check the switch with a meter, on mine the switch is "normally open", meaning it does not conduct normally, but does conduct when you push it, if so, all you have to do is tie those two wires together, and you won't have to mess with it again. Be sure to check it with a meter to make sure it works that way before making any change. I did mine about 4 years ago and love it.
@@Bluelightbandit I like the option on my mower. When you use the key switch to start it, it defaults to the backup lockout, however if you turn it one notch toward off, it defeats that safety junk.
Hey thanks a lot the video was great that’s exactly why I was watching just bought my John Deere tractor. Went to fill it up with gas and tank moving all over I thought they forgot the strap it down. Thanks for the video have a good one
My 2005 Husqvarna finally gave up. I picked up the same model as yours. It misses stemmy grass a lot. The cut looks great other that mowing my yard twice to make it look right. I was mad about the tank as well. What a crappy design.
A good John Deere video. I have a new E110, and it is perfect for my size yard. The gas tank is suppose to be lose. Thumbs up ! and Good luck with your E170 John Deere. Cheers !
I got my 380 John Deere lawn mower. But with the weather being below freezing and freezing and the current flood situation. It's still sitting in garage just can't wait to test it out.
milton gulick I had that kind of luck right after I bought mine, but fortunately I've gotten to use it some. I love it, it's a great machine! Congrats on yours!
we just got one and had the same reaction... thought it was crazy but figured out that it was meant to be that way :) My parents have JD mowers that they have had for 20 years and still work well.. Hoping our new one holds up 2
I wondered about the gas tank. So it is like a see-saw. The weight of the gas, tilts the indicator. That is different. I got a 32 year old sears lawn tractor. It still runs, but envy the shiny new tractors. They are starting to look sweet.
mark oldendorf Yep, that's pretty much right I believe! I've used this machine a few times already and I really like it. One of the best things I think that I like is the large, deluxe steering wheel because it turns so much easier than what I was used to. It almost feel like power steering lol. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Just bought a new S100 today and retired my 21 year old model (that will still run and cut). Same question. What's up with the gas tank? The thought of taking it back wasn't making me happy, and I knew the people at Lowe's where I bought it wouldn't know the answer. Thanks for the video..
jec6613 Haa! Yeah, they told me at Lowe's that the tank was empty but they wasn't sure about the play in the tank either. Once filled, it does make a difference lol. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The low end mowers are the same at the dealer as at the big box stores. Was told that by the JD dealer. I bought from the dealer and the one I bought would run about 100 feet and stop. They came out and picked it up and brought it back a few days later, saying a safety switch was bad. Lowes would not have done that. However the low end JD mower is a piece of crap. The transmission in mine went out at about 300 hours. I have a steep hill in the back and it does not like to pull that after the transmission gets warm. Transmission would cost over half the mower cost to replace. I will never buy another JD just because they sell the low end junk and I thought I was buying a quality product.
EZ oil filter only changes about half the oil in engine. Many are removing that stupid filter and converting to the regular filter style. JD actually sells a kit to do that.
Yeah, after using it for a few years I found out just how bad it hurts the engine. I made a video about the experience here...ruclips.net/video/ArE_Nbd5Mmk/видео.html
PART TIME PREPPERS My dad had an old school Craftsman that lasted a very long time. I remember him popping wheelies with it on the road when I was a kid about 35 years ago lol. Yes, the gas tank through me for a loop, but they assured me thats how it was designed and all was good. I just got through mowing with it and me likey! Except for that damn reverse button!
great mower, we have the same one with 54inch deck. john deere does build them in store. BUT our tank moves a bit but nothin like the movement in yours.
The One And Only Sessy I've used it 4 times so far and I love it! I think the best feature I like is the deluxe, larger steering wheel. It makes it really easy to turn. This is a very comfortable tractor to use, if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
I had a JD LT133 that I got close to twenty years ago and after spinal fusion surgery it was to ruff to ride. It was a great little riding mower and was still running like a champ when I got rid of it. I recently purchased the E170 and It's a dream on the old back. I was hiring a mowing service but now able to get back to doing myself.
I do not like oil filter because it leaves dirty oil in the engine you have to check oil level after you put the filter on and add oil if needed but you can still drain all the oil out then make sure you add oil to fill mark
goldbearbunny Yeah, unfortunately this is one of those "necessary" purchases that I have to have where I live. This hurt the wallet, but at least I won't have the stress that the old mower was giving me. I had already spent 100 bucks trying to get her going without any luck and I think there's multiple electrical things wrong with it. I'm getting too old and too tired to be worrying about shit like that anymore. So this should make my my summer mowing more pleasant and less stressful... hopefully.
EZ oil change is a terrible and overpriced idea. The problem I have with it is your only draining out a small amount of "dirty" oil. What is it 8oz or something. Well that motor probably holds 2 quarts. 64oz. I would convert it back the the old way of a standard oil filter and be able to drain all the old oil out. This is a yuppie system
I put this kit on my E150 and these people are cheaper than my local dealer. I can now drain all the oil out and change at 1/2 price. And it is approved by JD so it doesn't affect the warranty. www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Easy-Change-Conversion-Kit-AUC12916-KIT.html
It's a pretty simple design so I wouldn't think it would be too much wrong with it. Maybe it's just hung up and will free up after it's used. They aren't the most advanced guages out there lol
Dale Palmer Yeah, my Husquvarna drain plug was in the worst possible place. It was right next to the frame so you couldn't really get a funnel or anything in position to catch the oil. It was a real pain in the arse so I'm looking forward to not having to deal with that anymore.
Ya, now instead of draining all the dirty oil out and replacing the oil and filter for less than $15 which you can buy anywhere including Walmart, now you get to leave half the old dirty oil in the engine and pay $50 for new filter and oil that you can only buy from John Deere. THAT'S A GREAT NEW FEATURE!
mrbubetube There's a drain plug so you can drain all of the oil out if you want to. From my understanding, this new feature was developed because JD R&D discovered that the majority of owners of these tractors NEVER changed the oil in the engine and they would wear out around 10 years. I've always been one to change the oil in mine every season. I think this will be a handy feature and it only cost me 25.00 because I got the extended warranty. Of course after so many hours of use, I will drain all of the oil out and start fresh again. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I was wondering if the E130's Transmission is strong enough for Lawn Rolling and using a small utility cart ( Rhino ) up a 30deg 15 foot hill from my back yard to front yard . Mostly my back yard has a slight angle but I am more concerned about hauling from back to front yards . I know JD has a good product and I am hoping the transmission will hold up for years if it is built strong enough for the workload that I want to use it for .
I would be afraid to say one way or the other to be honest with ya man, I can only speak for mine. I would contact a service tech for JD and ask. He won't have any incentive to fudge the truth to make a sale and therefore should give you a pretty reliable answer.
29edin Yeah, I was kinda bummed myself, but people in the comments section say there is an easy bypass video here on RUclips that will take care of it. I have yet to locate and try it but I will. I bypassed it on my Husquvarna because I'm like you lol.
Just pull it out and wire nut them together.I did it years ago on 3 tractors and also the seat. It would shut off or try to stall when my big butt was sliding around on sidehills. When i cut the switches out i left enough wire in case i wanted to put them back on for resale purposes.
bill smith lol I have the same problem with the big butt issue. I disabled the seat safety on my Husquvarna, gotta get these things done now on this one, thanks!
I am getting ready to buy this mower. How much did you pay? I think the cheapest I've seen is around 22 to 2300ish... And.. Anything else I should know that you have found out since making this vid? Thank you in advance. This is an expensive buy for me so I am just doing a little research. I need nothing bigger than a 50 so it fits on my small trailer and I have been looking for awhile.
Rodney Karnes I don't remember exactly how much the total was. I bought the extended warranty so I think the total was around 2,700. I bypassed the reverse safety button so I don't have to ever have to mess with it again. It was very simple to do, I wrote an article on how to do it, I will post the link at the end of my comment for you. My biggest complaint with the machine is that the fuel gauge is not accurate. I can have a full tank and the fuel gauge will show 3/4 full. It's not a huge deal but it is aggravating to be honest. I love how the engine starts without a seperate choke lever. This is the nicest lawn tractor that I have ever owned. I like it much more than the Husquvarna that I had. Also, thus model has the deluxe steering wheel on it which makes turning super easy. I hope this helps! steemit.com/diy/@bluelightbandit/how-to-bypass-the-reverse-safety-switch-on-a-john-deere-lawn-tractor-fcab01d7470aa
Is there a place to manually add oil in case it ever develops a leak or burns oil? Just bought me a E180 54” today. Being delivered Friday plus a free John Deere cart👌 After military discount I paid $2700 out the door plus free delivery👍
Jone Sing Yessir, you can actually change all of the oil the usual way if you wanted to. As a matter of fact, it would probably be a good idea to do that after so long imho. Congratulations on your new tractor! Thank you for your service to our country!
Any idea if the svc has something to do with not moving forward or reverse on my e170? It’s run and blades runt too, but just not goin anywhere. Thanks
It sounds like the transmission is not engaged. Are you sure that the selector on the back is in the right position? It's that push/pull silver rod in between the rear tires. It needs to be pushed all the way in. If it's pulled all the way out, it's not engaged and you can roll the machine easier. Hope this helps! You can see it for a split second at 03:45 at the bottom of the screen. It's in between the two white stickers on that black metal cover in between the tires.
A bungee cord wrapped around the tank and whatever it's sitting on should keep it from rattling around. That's assuming there is room to get one in there. Hard to tell just on the video.
Its easy to fix the govt mandated mow in reverse issue, look at the back of the switch, unplug it and put a jumper between the two contacts on the end of the cable. Problem solved! Just make sure nobody is behind you, kids and dogs getting run over, seriously injured or killed is why they put that on there. My personal rule, NO KIDS OR DOGS allowed when mowing, kids must be inside when mowing, no exceptions!
The fuel ⛽️ gauge is under the seat?? Not on the dash where you could see it and gauge your fuel consumption as your mowing? A loose fuel tank. Nope not for me. I want a fuel tank that’s secured to the tractor. Plus it’s under the seat. I had a Husqvarna 46in I wish it didn’t have starting problems because it was a good mower with good options but I had to get rid of it because it drained batteries and wouldnt start with out starting fluid.
BANDIT, RE : JD 30 sec oil change. I don't understand how all the oil ends up in the filter. Upon engine start, there HAS to be oil in the crankcase for the oil pump to pickup. I bought the E140 because it DID NOT have the 30 sec oil change. My b&s engine requires 2 quarts. The 30 sec oil filter does NOT appear big enough to hold 2 quarts. Perhaps the 30 sec oil change only changes 1/2 the oil each time ? WHATEVER, I am NOT gonna pay $50 to replace 2 quarts of oil & a little filter. Not even $25. Otherwise, I think John Deere equipment is bitchin; !
Hey man! The filter doesn't hold all of the oil. It just traps the dirty oil so it can't get out and when you replace it, the new filter replaces the old oil that was taken out by the previous filter. That's pretty much all I know about it. I can't say if it's a good design or not. I can see points from both sides of the spectrum so time will tell. The filters have come down in price since I made this video. I'm not exactly sure how much they are now because I haven't needed to buy one yet, I just know they are cheaper. Yeah, JD rocks! I hope you enjoy your new rider! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@DONALD1951 I like the E140. I mowed a couple of acres of waist high weeds & it did just fine. I bought the JD 40" tractor shovel & had to fab mounting brackets but I got it working & have been moving dirt & gravel with no ill effects. Not yet. I paid 2K for my E140. The X330 goes for 3K. The weak point in these tractors is the transaxles. You need to go all the way up to the X350 - $3.3K to get a transaxle upgrade. No I didn't buy the extended warranty. I never do. So far I have almost have 15hrs & I am fairly pleased. !
Mine arrived this arvo & had the same sinking feeling. Problem is i have a rough paddock & even with a full tank you can hear it banging around. does not inspire me with confidence. think i might strap it down & do away with the fuel gauge.
The way you check their story about the fuel tank is look at a X series John Deere mower. If the tank is "floating" on those machines, then you got the real story. If they are attached.....you know it's a cheaper shortcut. Simple. The X series is their flagship.
P 3 of course it’s cheaper. The 100 series is a budget line. The X series tractors have traditional gas tanks with floats to read how much fuel you have.
I recently made a 1 year later review video. I love how convenient it is and I'm not worried about dirty oil, that's the filters job. Here's the link if you're interested. Thanks! ruclips.net/video/mYWJNf-iokg/видео.html
Anybody happen to know if the gauge on these is adjustable? I just bought an e170 myself and it reads as 3/4 full when it's completely full. I can't quite see in there to see if there's a nut or something to adjust the spring's calibration. Not a huge deal if it has to stay that way but I'd like to fix it if possible.
Yeah, I don't think it can be adjusted. I actually ended up returning mine, there was something wrong with the mower deck, made a weird grumbling noise and vibration that came in waves. Wasn't blade related, sounded like there was something wrong with the spindles or pulleys. We decided to try an E140 instead, should be coming next week. Hope it works okay.
Thanks, so far the new one is okay. It had the same issue with the gauge, but I was actually able to fix it! It's just a plastic arm that pivots on the frame, one end goes to the gauge, the other end rests against the bottom of the fuel tank. All you have to do is put a shim or something between the tank and the arm and that's it!
Wondered about the gas tank thing on my 140 cuz it is noisy rattling on rough ground. I drained break in oil out at9 hrs (per manual) 30sec oil change only holds 1 qt got filter and 2qt at Deere dealer, and they asked why? I said filter only holds 1qt engine holds 3qts . How is that a complete oil change??
There is a easy by pass trick you can do that works great, for reverse switch. there is a how to video on you tube that shows you how to do it, its easy I used it on my john deere S240 and son's D120
50.00 for oil filter thats a same price for theres here too at deeres and its $25.00at my kubota dealer and kubota feul tank are secured solid with steel feul tank brakets and led feul guage and 10 guage steel deck and 4wd system
I guess it depends on what the definition of a garden tractor is lol. It doesn't have any special attachments on it. What kind of work are you wanting to do with it?
@@parkerhowell646 Hmmmm, I wish that I could give you an answer but I honestly don't know. I will check the owner's manual to see if it says anything about it and get back with you as soon as I can.
@@parkerhowell646 Hey buddy, I just got through looking through the manual and I only saw one thing that talked about accessories. It said to use weights if hooking up a snow plow or blade. I went to the spec sheet and had a look-see at the transaxles for each model. From 110 up to 160, those use the same transaxle. The 170 and 180 has a beefier transaxle called Tuff Torq HD K46. The lower end models uses TL200. That's all the info I could find in the manual, I hope it helps.
Bluelightbandit thank you so much! I saw online where it talked about using the k46. I’ll have to see if the k58 can be swapped on the E or X300 series. I’d rather have too much hydro than something that might not be able to take the load. Some serious research is about to happen, might have to call the JD dealer about the trans swap.
Can someone tell me how to put gas in this without making a mess. Poor location plus the new idiotic gas cans always leak..I waste a lot of gas..only flaw I’m aware of.
I don't mind the location as much as I do the fkn safety Sally gas cans. You can buy a conversion kit from Tractor Supply. It's basically just a plain spout and a breather cap.
You can get a conversion kit. Quick oil change filter is $39.99 plus tax at Lowe's and you suppose to change and your first oil change is after 8 hrs. Then once every 100 hrs or once a season. I mow my lawn every two weeks and it takes a couple hours. Probably twenty hours a season.
What no demo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You ain't blowed nuthin up in a minute or two and now you get a new mower and no demo WTH BLB !!!!!!! How ya doin buddy !!!!!
mikegpo Been layin low my man, not feelin the best. But with warmer weather coming up hopefully will get things flowing better. I've lost the charger for my gopro??? I'm getting ready to go shoot that ne Ruger PC 9 Carbine, so I will see if I can get some footage from my phone or something. I've been chatting with Dean a lil bit here and there when he's not working or sleeping lol.
I keep getting questions about how this tractor is holding up after having it for a year. I made a brief video summarizing my answer here ruclips.net/video/mYWJNf-iokg/видео.html
Just got my E170 today and felt the same thing about the gas tank floating... disappointment that it was messed up. Glad to see it’s supposed to be that way. Thanks for saving me a few calls. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Awesome Video…. lmao was going through same thing paused video halfway as was getting call back from Home Depot, where they told me John Deere assembles and doesn’t let them touch, and then your video explained why.
Thanks, glad it helped!
Thanks much Bluelightbandit! I had that same sinking feeling when I noticed the excessive play in the tank on my new JD E160 lawn tractor, but your video has put me more at ease. Especially since you actually heard back from John Deere. I purchased mine at Home Depot. Would be nice for JD to include a section on the floating gas tank in the tractor manual, or at least the salesman be aware of the expected concerns and give the customer a heads up before purchase, especially if it's a new untested design. I'm sure with a full tank there will be less play, but it does still really feel like there's excessive play. If it is a new untested design will just have to wait and see. Hopefully any issues will be noticed before two years and 1 day or 121 hours whichever comes first. :-)
Richard Nawyn Ahh YES! Mission accomplished! That was my entire motive for making this video, to put someone else's mind at ease that had the same concerns that I did. Thanks for your comment!
Also, there's a guy that left a comment on this video that stated that the D series tractors were also like this fyi.
I sent mine back to Lowes and had them deliver another. Only to realize same situation. Yes, JD needs to put this out there to avoid situations like this.
Excellent comment!! What sold us was the thickness of the gauge of the metal and "V Twin 22 HP Engine, per my dad lol. We too are happy with the purchase. We thought the same exact thing about the gas tank and even went to the store upset to check and or return! Lol obviously we didn't. But this video from Bandit and your comment made us way more comfortable. So thanks!! 😁
Like the video,, one small gripe I do have with JD's and this is one that you might want to look closer at,, is why doesn't JD bolt the battery down? A wire tie? REALLY????? @@Bluelightbandit
Thanks Bandit, just bought a S170, when I looked at the gas tank 😮 WTF! Thanks for sharing your video.
Glad it helped!
Just took delivery of my new E170 today and that was my first thought too. "What the hell?" Thanks for posting and saving me a call to Lowes.
Glad it helped!
I bought an E100, I have the same problem. I looked at the schematics and found that All the parts were mounted. Thanks for your video. It was a head scratcher. I haven't used mine yet. It wont stop raining.
LMAO! I got to use mine as soon as I unloaded it. It rained the next several days and then snowed yesterday lol! Thanks for watching and commenting!
thanks for the info! I just brought my DEERE home and put gas in ,and thought i had a serious problem!
I bought the E180 about two months ago. While the kid at Lowes was trying to get the owner's manual off the fuel tank I thought he busted the tank. OK it floats and makes a gauge you cannot even see between your legs move up and down. For what we spend on this stuff, you think an electronic gauge is asking too much? Not sure I like all the pressure it takes on the throttle to hold it in choke either. Deck wash is not effective. Like other commenters I am not all that keen on the 30 second oil change system (expensive $$$). The good to show I am not a total complainer: Sharp turn radius. Thick heavy deck. Chews right through heavy or damp grass without slowing down a lick. Goes uphill as fast as it goes downhill with power to spare. Seems comfortable enough. As far as that reverse safety - put connectors on a single wire and jumped it. No problem. Overall: I think (so far) I am getting my money's worth.
Great comment, thanks! I agree with you that they should install a decent fuel gauge, I mean how much more would it add to the cost? I can't imagine it being too much.
I bypassed my reverse override switch and that was the best 5 minutes I have ever spent!
Yeah, the tight turning radius is pretty awesome 😁
The X series mowers you can get at dealers have electronic fuel gauge. I agree and I wouldn't think it would have cost that much more for the manufacturer to add it.
Yes, the mechanical fuel gauge is something of a joker but in this price range I guess I can't fault it for the simplicity. I got rid of both the RIO and seat safety switches, they were pains in the neck but I understand they have to put them there for liability from those with no common sense. Turn radius is awesome as you mentioned, the machine is very comfortable, and the cut quality is excellent.
Just had the same mower dropped off and was so disappointed when i went to put gas in it! Glad i found this video before telling lowes to come get it!
LOL I know the same feeling bud, thanks!
I just purchased the E120, hopefully it’ll last for many years. Good luck with your new baby!
Oswaldo Rabanal Congrats on your new machine! I'm sure you will get many great years of service from it!
FOLLOWUP: I was at Lowe's to pick up a double GFCI outlet for my new LG washer with sidekick, and for kicks on my way into the store I stopped at all the John Deere tractors for sale out front and tested the gas tanks on each one. There were six altogether - an E100, two E110's, an E120, E140 and E150 - ALL had the excessive play in the gas tank. So I think the entire E100 series have that tank technology. Still think JD should mention this somewhere in their owners manuals.
Richard Nawyn Thanks for the follow up info! I talked with someone that has a D Series and they advised that theirs was the same way. You're right though, JD should mention this to it's customers.
I just bought a S240 and had the same question..thanks for the great info!
The reverse lockout is easy, since some people are stupid and lazy and don't look behind them they put a nanny switch on it. Look on the back side of the dash, the wires just plug in. To verify if yours is the same as my 5 yr old D130 unplug it and check the switch with a meter, on mine the switch is "normally open", meaning it does not conduct normally, but does conduct when you push it, if so, all you have to do is tie those two wires together, and you won't have to mess with it again. Be sure to check it with a meter to make sure it works that way before making any change. I did mine about 4 years ago and love it.
G56AG That's great info, thanks! You're right, it is a damn shame that they have to put nanny switches on everything these days lol.
I'll probably do that after warranty runs out. Thanks
@@Bluelightbandit I like the option on my mower. When you use the key switch to start it, it defaults to the backup lockout, however if you turn it one notch toward off, it defeats that safety junk.
Hey thanks a lot the video was great that’s exactly why I was watching just bought my John Deere tractor. Went to fill it up with gas and tank moving all over I thought they forgot the strap it down. Thanks for the video have a good one
Thanks man, I'm really glad it helped!
lol here it is now 2021 and I just got my S160 and discovered the tank loose. Found your vid when I googled it.
I hope it helped :)
Thanks for the explanation, I just picked up a newer John Deere with the same issue. What a joke.
No problem, glad it helped!
My 2005 Husqvarna finally gave up. I picked up the same model as yours. It misses stemmy grass a lot. The cut looks great other that mowing my yard twice to make it look right.
I was mad about the tank as well. What a crappy design.
A good John Deere video. I have a new E110, and it is perfect for my size yard. The gas tank is suppose to be lose. Thumbs up ! and Good luck with your E170 John Deere. Cheers !
RONS BEERS & TOOLS Thanks for watching and commenting! Good luck with yours also!
I got my 380 John Deere lawn mower. But with the weather being below freezing and freezing and the current flood situation. It's still sitting in garage just can't wait to test it out.
milton gulick I had that kind of luck right after I bought mine, but fortunately I've gotten to use it some. I love it, it's a great machine! Congrats on yours!
we just got one and had the same reaction... thought it was crazy but figured out that it was meant to be that way :) My parents have JD mowers that they have had for 20 years and still work well.. Hoping our new one holds up 2
Family Fun Glad I wasn't the only one, thanks for sharing!
Take the back up button and twist the wires that go to it together and you just bypass the safety part of the switch. Did it on mine and love it
Did just that a few weeks ago and just like you, I love it!
I wondered about the gas tank. So it is like a see-saw. The weight of the gas, tilts the indicator. That is different. I got a 32 year old sears lawn tractor. It still runs, but envy the shiny new tractors. They are starting to look sweet.
mark oldendorf Yep, that's pretty much right I believe! I've used this machine a few times already and I really like it. One of the best things I think that I like is the large, deluxe steering wheel because it turns so much easier than what I was used to. It almost feel like power steering lol. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for doing the video. I was about to take my new deere back when I noticed the gas tank.
Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
Thanks for the video and explanation. Very helpful.
Yeah I just picked a E140 and I thought the gas tank was missing the mounts or bolts. My father thought the same. Never seen anything like it.😂
I bought a LA130 in 2007, it has just under 800 hours on it. did the same thing with the reverse switch, still going strong.
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Thank you I google searched after filling it up first time. Freaked out a bit till I saw the video.
Glad it helped 👍🏼
Just bought a new S100 today and retired my 21 year old model (that will still run and cut). Same question. What's up with the gas tank? The thought of taking it back wasn't making me happy, and I knew the people at Lowe's where I bought it wouldn't know the answer. Thanks for the video..
Glad it helped!
Thank you for posting this
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thank you for the info. I was going to call because my S220 has the same issue.
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Saved my weekend. Sure didn't seem right to me. My previous L120 tank was solid mount. Thanks again
Douglas Aber Thanks, glad it helped!
I just bought a E110 today and was ready to send it back. It is the janky-est setup ive ever seen. Makes sense now, but it still looks janky.
Lol yep!
Good and honest review…… Thank You
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Hopefully you've added gas by now, once it's weighted down the tank stops moving so much. You have to be on fumes to have that much movement. :)
jec6613 Haa! Yeah, they told me at Lowe's that the tank was empty but they wasn't sure about the play in the tank either. Once filled, it does make a difference lol. Thanks for watching and commenting!
John Deere makes a conversion kit that does away with the EZ Change oil system if you want to change the oil the usual way.
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Pay extra to compensate for millennials lol
just bought one, and i had the same issue, thanks for the explanation!
I'm really glad it helped! Thanks for watching and commenting!
The low end mowers are the same at the dealer as at the big box stores. Was told that by the JD dealer. I bought from the dealer and the one I bought would run about 100 feet and stop. They came out and picked it up and brought it back a few days later, saying a safety switch was bad. Lowes would not have done that. However the low end JD mower is a piece of crap. The transmission in mine went out at about 300 hours. I have a steep hill in the back and it does not like to pull that after the transmission gets warm. Transmission would cost over half the mower cost to replace. I will never buy another JD just because they sell the low end junk and I thought I was buying a quality product.
EZ oil filter only changes about half the oil in engine. Many are removing that stupid filter and converting to the regular filter style. JD actually sells a kit to do that.
Yeah, after using it for a few years I found out just how bad it hurts the engine. I made a video about the experience here...ruclips.net/video/ArE_Nbd5Mmk/видео.html
Nice....Deluxe Model...our Craftsmen still doing AOK after 9 yrs...but nothing runs like a Deere!:))) That play there does seem a little different.👍
PART TIME PREPPERS My dad had an old school Craftsman that lasted a very long time. I remember him popping wheelies with it on the road when I was a kid about 35 years ago lol. Yes, the gas tank through me for a loop, but they assured me thats how it was designed and all was good. I just got through mowing with it and me likey! Except for that damn reverse button!
Just purchased a 2018 E170 and it kind of freaked me out. Thanks for the video.
LOL You and me both, buddy!
That's one robust machine my friend! I ride a deere as well brother. Luxury!!
shiny packAGe Great minds think alike!
That gauge must be essentially indicating the weight of the tank so the tank has be be able to move as the weight of the fuel changes.
Excellent video!!! Thanks so much, we were dead on with you when we received ours!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
great mower, we have the same one with 54inch deck. john deere does build them in store. BUT our tank moves a bit but nothin like the movement in yours.
Ii just bought an E160 and thought the same thing. It has the floating gas tank. Thanks for explaining!
Thank you!
Easy fix on that stupid yellow reverse button. Piece of wire and a couple of terminal connectors...I love it now.
Thanks for the video! I have a different model with the same gas tank and was wondering if they did a half ass job putting it together.
Have you had any problems with the paint peeling off your riding lawn mower.
Not yet.
Thanks
I'd be great to see your take on the machine before I go and shed out money for one
The One And Only Sessy I've used it 4 times so far and I love it! I think the best feature I like is the deluxe, larger steering wheel. It makes it really easy to turn. This is a very comfortable tractor to use, if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
I had a JD LT133 that I got close to twenty years ago and after spinal fusion surgery it was to ruff to ride. It was a great little riding mower and was still running like a champ when I got rid of it. I recently purchased the E170 and It's a dream on the old back. I was hiring a mowing service but now able to get back to doing myself.
I do not like oil filter because it leaves dirty oil in the engine you have to check oil level after you put the filter on and add oil if needed but you can still drain all the oil out then make sure you add oil to fill mark
rick schwartz It definitely has it's pro's and con's for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Lol move to Canada you won't have to worry about cutting grass the snow will put a stop to that. Nice machine my friend 😎
goldbearbunny Yeah, unfortunately this is one of those "necessary" purchases that I have to have where I live. This hurt the wallet, but at least I won't have the stress that the old mower was giving me. I had already spent 100 bucks trying to get her going without any luck and I think there's multiple electrical things wrong with it. I'm getting too old and too tired to be worrying about shit like that anymore. So this should make my my summer mowing more pleasant and less stressful... hopefully.
Bluelightbandit I think you should put some low profile tires on it trubo boost and flames on it o yeah
goldbearbunny I would if I had GBB money! 😉💰💲💵
Bluelightbandit lol you had my money you be broke lol mine is all in gold not cash
goldbearbunny All yours is tied up in gold, all mine is tied up in lawnmower! HA! I win! If you call that winning...😭
EZ oil change is a terrible and overpriced idea. The problem I have with it is your only draining out a small amount of "dirty" oil. What is it 8oz or something. Well that motor probably holds 2 quarts. 64oz. I would convert it back the the old way of a standard oil filter and be able to drain all the old oil out. This is a yuppie system
I along with others have brought up this issue. I would love to hear a response from JD about it. Thanks!
John Deere Easy Change Conversion Kit - AUC12916-KIT
I put this kit on my E150 and these people are cheaper than my local dealer. I can now drain all the oil out and change at 1/2 price. And it is approved by JD so it doesn't affect the warranty. www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Easy-Change-Conversion-Kit-AUC12916-KIT.html
I just got a s110 John Deere 2 days ago and thought the same thing. but my gas gauge isn't working so not sure what's up with that
It's a pretty simple design so I wouldn't think it would be too much wrong with it. Maybe it's just hung up and will free up after it's used. They aren't the most advanced guages out there lol
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Those tanks are designed to "float" for shock absorbtion and the fuel guage
That is one hell of a lawn mower with some cool features. $50 for an oil filter sounds like a lot but it sure will be easier to change the oil. :D
Dale Palmer Yeah, my Husquvarna drain plug was in the worst possible place. It was right next to the frame so you couldn't really get a funnel or anything in position to catch the oil. It was a real pain in the arse so I'm looking forward to not having to deal with that anymore.
Ya, now instead of draining all the dirty oil out and replacing the oil and filter for less than $15 which you can buy anywhere including Walmart, now you get to leave half the old dirty oil in the engine and pay $50 for new filter and oil that you can only buy from John Deere. THAT'S A GREAT NEW FEATURE!
Just something else to fix! I am a diehard John Deere fan, but we have to admit they make a fair amount of revenue off of things to fix!
mrbubetube There's a drain plug so you can drain all of the oil out if you want to. From my understanding, this new feature was developed because JD R&D discovered that the majority of owners of these tractors NEVER changed the oil in the engine and they would wear out around 10 years. I've always been one to change the oil in mine every season. I think this will be a handy feature and it only cost me 25.00 because I got the extended warranty. Of course after so many hours of use, I will drain all of the oil out and start fresh again. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Steven B You are correct.
I was wondering if the E130's Transmission is strong enough for Lawn Rolling and using a small utility cart ( Rhino ) up a 30deg 15 foot hill from my back yard to front yard . Mostly my back yard has a slight angle but I am more concerned about hauling from back to front yards . I know JD has a good product and I am hoping the transmission will hold up for years if it is built strong enough for the workload that I want to use it for .
I would be afraid to say one way or the other to be honest with ya man, I can only speak for mine. I would contact a service tech for JD and ask. He won't have any incentive to fudge the truth to make a sale and therefore should give you a pretty reliable answer.
Thanks, I was wondering!
You're welcome!
That reverse switch is a deal breaker for me. I spend more time backing than going forward in my type of yard. Lol
29edin Yeah, I was kinda bummed myself, but people in the comments section say there is an easy bypass video here on RUclips that will take care of it. I have yet to locate and try it but I will. I bypassed it on my Husquvarna because I'm like you lol.
Just pull it out and wire nut them together.I did it years ago on 3 tractors and also the seat. It would shut off or try to stall when my big butt was sliding around on sidehills. When i cut the switches out i left enough wire in case i wanted to put them back on for resale purposes.
bill smith lol I have the same problem with the big butt issue. I disabled the seat safety on my Husquvarna, gotta get these things done now on this one, thanks!
I am getting ready to buy this mower. How much did you pay? I think the cheapest I've seen is around 22 to 2300ish... And.. Anything else I should know that you have found out since making this vid? Thank you in advance. This is an expensive buy for me so I am just doing a little research. I need nothing bigger than a 50 so it fits on my small trailer and I have been looking for awhile.
Rodney Karnes I don't remember exactly how much the total was. I bought the extended warranty so I think the total was around 2,700. I bypassed the reverse safety button so I don't have to ever have to mess with it again. It was very simple to do, I wrote an article on how to do it, I will post the link at the end of my comment for you. My biggest complaint with the machine is that the fuel gauge is not accurate. I can have a full tank and the fuel gauge will show 3/4 full. It's not a huge deal but it is aggravating to be honest. I love how the engine starts without a seperate choke lever. This is the nicest lawn tractor that I have ever owned. I like it much more than the Husquvarna that I had. Also, thus model has the deluxe steering wheel on it which makes turning super easy. I hope this helps!
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My husqvarna slung a rod after about 3 years. Like you said I kept messing with a lot of different things. Hated it
Is there a place to manually add oil in case it ever develops a leak or burns oil? Just bought me a E180 54” today. Being delivered Friday plus a free John Deere cart👌
After military discount I paid $2700 out the door plus free delivery👍
Jone Sing Yessir, you can actually change all of the oil the usual way if you wanted to. As a matter of fact, it would probably be a good idea to do that after so long imho. Congratulations on your new tractor! Thank you for your service to our country!
Any idea if the svc has something to do with not moving forward or reverse on my e170? It’s run and blades runt too, but just not goin anywhere. Thanks
It sounds like the transmission is not engaged. Are you sure that the selector on the back is in the right position? It's that push/pull silver rod in between the rear tires. It needs to be pushed all the way in. If it's pulled all the way out, it's not engaged and you can roll the machine easier. Hope this helps!
You can see it for a split second at 03:45 at the bottom of the screen. It's in between the two white stickers on that black metal cover in between the tires.
Don’t like design of handle for deck height, getting off left side , that design makes it hard to get off. Don’t like bumping into it.👎
I agree
How are you liking your D170? I plan on getting one this weekend. Tired of pushing my mower up and down the front (23 deg slope) yard.
So far so good! I have 8 hours on it with no complaints. I modded the reverse override switch and that was the best thing I ever done.
A bungee cord wrapped around the tank and whatever it's sitting on should keep it from rattling around. That's assuming there is room to get one in there. Hard to tell just on the video.
Robert Goniea if you did that the fuel gauge would no longer work. It’s not going to rattle around once it has fuel in it anyway.
Its easy to fix the govt mandated mow in reverse issue, look at the back of the switch, unplug it and put a jumper between the two contacts on the end of the cable. Problem solved! Just make sure nobody is behind you, kids and dogs getting run over, seriously injured or killed is why they put that on there. My personal rule, NO KIDS OR DOGS allowed when mowing, kids must be inside when mowing, no exceptions!
Yep, I took care of that switch not long after I made the video. Thanks!
The fuel ⛽️ gauge is under the seat?? Not on the dash where you could see it and gauge your fuel consumption as your mowing? A loose fuel tank. Nope not for me. I want a fuel tank that’s secured to the tractor. Plus it’s under the seat. I had a Husqvarna 46in I wish it didn’t have starting problems because it was a good mower with good options but I had to get rid of it because it drained batteries and wouldnt start with out starting fluid.
How about an update now, how are your feelings a year later?
That's a good idea! I'm recovering from a surgery at the moment but I will definitely put this on the to do list, thanks!
BANDIT,
RE : JD 30 sec oil change.
I don't understand how all the oil ends up in the filter. Upon engine start, there HAS
to be oil in the crankcase for the oil pump to pickup.
I bought the E140 because it DID NOT have the 30 sec oil change.
My b&s engine requires 2 quarts. The 30 sec oil filter does NOT
appear big enough to hold 2 quarts. Perhaps the 30 sec oil change only
changes 1/2 the oil each time ?
WHATEVER,
I am NOT gonna pay $50 to replace 2 quarts of oil & a little filter. Not even $25.
Otherwise, I think John Deere equipment is bitchin;
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Hey man! The filter doesn't hold all of the oil. It just traps the dirty oil so it can't get out and when you replace it, the new filter replaces the old oil that was taken out by the previous filter. That's pretty much all I know about it.
I can't say if it's a good design or not. I can see points from both sides of the spectrum so time will tell. The filters have come down in price since I made this video. I'm not exactly sure how much they are now because I haven't needed to buy one yet, I just know they are cheaper. Yeah, JD rocks! I hope you enjoy your new rider! Thanks for watching and commenting!
OURv How do you like the 140? I might get that or an X model. Thanks
Did you get the extended warranty?
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I like the E140. I mowed a couple of acres of waist high weeds
& it did just fine. I bought the JD 40" tractor shovel & had
to fab mounting brackets but I got it working & have been moving
dirt & gravel with no ill effects. Not yet.
I paid 2K for my E140. The X330 goes for 3K. The weak point in these
tractors is the transaxles. You need to go all the way up to the X350 - $3.3K
to get a transaxle upgrade. No I didn't buy the extended warranty.
I never do. So far I have almost have 15hrs & I am fairly pleased.
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Mine arrived this arvo & had the same sinking feeling. Problem is i have a rough paddock & even with a full tank you can hear it banging around. does not inspire me with confidence. think i might strap it down & do away with the fuel gauge.
I haven't had any problems with mine. Thanks for sharing!
@@Bluelightbandit Im worried out it scratching itself to pieces. had my last one for 18 yrs. So im hoping.
Not a bad idea about strapping it down. The fuel indicator is cheezy anyway.
The way you check their story about the fuel tank is look at a X series John Deere mower. If the tank is "floating" on those machines, then you got the real story. If they are attached.....you know it's a cheaper shortcut. Simple.
The X series is their flagship.
P 3 of course it’s cheaper. The 100 series is a budget line. The X series tractors have traditional gas tanks with floats to read how much fuel you have.
looks like that would be a fire issue after a few years of wear and tear.....rubbing holes in the tank
@@hometowncook6970 NOT as of yet!
@@hometowncook6970 I don't know what, if any, parts rub together that would cause a problem.
I believe it will be OK. Cheers!
Cool rig bro! 😎 I love my JD! 💗
Silver Vessel Great minds think alike!
I just bought a e130 what u think about the quick change oil change any issues with dirty oil
I recently made a 1 year later review video. I love how convenient it is and I'm not worried about dirty oil, that's the filters job. Here's the link if you're interested. Thanks!
ruclips.net/video/mYWJNf-iokg/видео.html
Ok cool
Anybody happen to know if the gauge on these is adjustable? I just bought an e170 myself and it reads as 3/4 full when it's completely full. I can't quite see in there to see if there's a nut or something to adjust the spring's calibration. Not a huge deal if it has to stay that way but I'd like to fix it if possible.
Nodak81 I've noticed that mine does the same thing. Unfortunately I don't know if it can be adjusted though.
Yeah, I don't think it can be adjusted. I actually ended up returning mine, there was something wrong with the mower deck, made a weird grumbling noise and vibration that came in waves. Wasn't blade related, sounded like there was something wrong with the spindles or pulleys. We decided to try an E140 instead, should be coming next week. Hope it works okay.
Nodak81 Hate to hear your troubles, maybe the new one will be better!
Thanks, so far the new one is okay. It had the same issue with the gauge, but I was actually able to fix it! It's just a plastic arm that pivots on the frame, one end goes to the gauge, the other end rests against the bottom of the fuel tank. All you have to do is put a shim or something between the tank and the arm and that's it!
Nodak81 Thanks for the info!
O noticed my fuel gauge isnt working. Did you have that problem with yours?
No, it still works.
Wondered about the gas tank thing on my 140 cuz it is noisy rattling on rough ground. I drained break in oil out at9 hrs (per manual) 30sec oil change only holds 1 qt got filter and 2qt at Deere dealer, and they asked why? I said filter only holds 1qt engine holds 3qts . How is that a complete oil change??
What did they say?
@@Bluelightbandit he must have forgot.
There is a easy by pass trick you can do that works great, for reverse switch. there is a how to video on you tube that shows you how to do it, its easy I used it on my john deere S240 and son's D120
Gary Belanger Thanks for the tip and also watching and commenting!
50.00 for oil filter thats a same price for theres here too at deeres and its $25.00at my kubota dealer and kubota feul tank are secured solid with steel feul tank brakets and led feul guage and 10 guage steel deck and 4wd system
$50 for the Easy change oil filter ? I can see why people are converting to a standard filter.
It's $40 in the US.
You can override the reverse mowing switch there’s videos on how to do it on other John Deere mowers but it’s the same shit
W523 MGR4ANCILLARY Thanks for that info, man!
I have the John Deere D140 and there supposed to have a lot of play in the fuel tank for the floating gage there all like that!
Brandon Scoots Thanks for your comment!
Can you use this as a garden tractor? I’ve looked on the JD website and they all just say “lawn tractor” even the high end X series.
I guess it depends on what the definition of a garden tractor is lol. It doesn't have any special attachments on it. What kind of work are you wanting to do with it?
Bluelightbandit pulling 500-800ish pounds and the capability of attaching a sleeve hitch for attachments to deal with 20’x20’ garden.
@@parkerhowell646 Hmmmm, I wish that I could give you an answer but I honestly don't know. I will check the owner's manual to see if it says anything about it and get back with you as soon as I can.
@@parkerhowell646 Hey buddy, I just got through looking through the manual and I only saw one thing that talked about accessories. It said to use weights if hooking up a snow plow or blade. I went to the spec sheet and had a look-see at the transaxles for each model. From 110 up to 160, those use the same transaxle. The 170 and 180 has a beefier transaxle called Tuff Torq HD K46. The lower end models uses TL200. That's all the info I could find in the manual, I hope it helps.
Bluelightbandit thank you so much! I saw online where it talked about using the k46. I’ll have to see if the k58 can be swapped on the E or X300 series. I’d rather have too much hydro than something that might not be able to take the load. Some serious research is about to happen, might have to call the JD dealer about the trans swap.
Can someone tell me how to put gas in this without making a mess. Poor location plus the new idiotic gas cans always leak..I waste a lot of gas..only flaw I’m aware of.
I don't mind the location as much as I do the fkn safety Sally gas cans. You can buy a conversion kit from Tractor Supply. It's basically just a plain spout and a breather cap.
Purchased the E130 today and the gas tank is also loose as a goose.
That "easy change" system is such a scam. I'm looking at an E140 because it's one of the few that doesn't have it...yet.
Actually found out there is a conversion kit to get rid of the Easy Change system for just $25 which was a pleasant surprise.
now people are forced into spending $50 for a oil change you can do the conventional way for less then $10, no thank you
You can get a conversion kit. Quick oil change filter is $39.99 plus tax at Lowe's and you suppose to change and your first oil change is after 8 hrs. Then once every 100 hrs or once a season. I mow my lawn every two weeks and it takes a couple hours. Probably twenty hours a season.
Do you know if that floating fuel tank is on all John Deere tractors?
Pretty sure it's not.
My D100 has it.
My D100, D130 and D140 are all this way. Cheap way to go and don’t work very well.
An oil change that does not change the oil is not a good idea.
It's removing the dirty oil and putting new in. How is that not changing oil?
How wide is that trailer?
5'x12'
Oh cool, I have a 5x8 that’s also tows my riding mower. Great Mower!!
Lack of training, customers should have features and benefits of mowers explained upon purchase.
I agree!
What no demo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You ain't blowed nuthin up in a minute or two and now you get a new mower and no demo WTH BLB !!!!!!! How ya doin buddy !!!!!
mikegpo Been layin low my man, not feelin the best. But with warmer weather coming up hopefully will get things flowing better. I've lost the charger for my gopro??? I'm getting ready to go shoot that ne Ruger PC 9 Carbine, so I will see if I can get some footage from my phone or something. I've been chatting with Dean a lil bit here and there when he's not working or sleeping lol.
Okay what stabilizer did you use
"Stabilizer "? Help me out here, I'm not sure what you're asking?
Easy change system only replaces a portion of the old oil. Do some research.
50 dollars for a oil change that's crazy
Robert Malone you can convert
Back to regular oil filter by getting parts from JD. Lowes have ez oil filters for $39.
YOU can convert back to standard filter if you want. Parts from JD. Lowes have ez filters for $39.
How much did you purchase it for?
I can't remember tbh, sorry.
Update?
It dont get all the bad oil out
I get my oil change for my car for 20 dollars