The 2023 Annual Meeting Will Change The Jehovah's Witness Religion Forever! January 2023 Broadcast
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- January 2023 JW Broadcast!
This is from the 2023 Annual Meeting of Jehovah's Witnesses! This is one of the most significant changes Watchtower has made in decades!!!
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This understanding is not a massive shift... *its clarification on God's personality...*
Ezekiel 18:23 New Living Translation
*“Do you think that I like to see wicked people die? says the Sovereign LORD. Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live.*
2 Peter 3:9 New Living Translation
The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. *He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.*
God does not punish the innocent. When the Israelites came out of Egypt they disobeyed God in not fighting against the Canaanites. For this God sentenced them to 40 years wandering in the wilderness. However their children were allowed to enter the land of Canaan...
Deuteronomy 1:37-39 New Living Translation
37“And the LORD was also angry with me because of you. He said to me, ‘Moses, not even you will enter the Promised Land! 38Instead, your assistant, Joshua son of Nun, will lead the people into the land. Encourage him, for he will lead Israel as they take possession of it. *39I will give the land to your little ones-your innocent children.* You were afraid they would be captured, but they will be the ones who occupy it.
God is not "fixed" in destroying people...he can change his mind if there is a valid basis for doing so...
John 3:4,5,10 New Living Translation
4On the day Jonah entered the city, he shouted to the crowds: *“Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!” 5The people of Nineveh believed God’s message, and from the greatest to the least, they declared a fast and put on burlap to show their sorrow.*
*10When God saw what they had done and how they had put a stop to their evil ways, he changed his mind and did not carry out the destruction he had threatened.*
Jonah 4:1-3 New Living Translation
Jonah’s Anger at the LORD’s Mercy
*1This change of plans greatly upset Jonah,* and he became very angry. 2So he complained to the LORD about it: “Didn’t I say before I left home that you would do this, LORD? That is why I ran away to Tarshish! *I knew that you are a merciful and compassionate God, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. You are eager to turn back from destroying people.* 3Just kill me now, LORD! I’d rather be dead than alive if what I predicted will not happen.”
**So this talk is not new light but CLEARER light. The bible says that would happen as prophesied events get closer...just like light increases as dawn of a day approaches...**
2 Peter 1:19 New Living Translation
Because of that experience, we have even greater confidence in the *message proclaimed by the prophets. You must pay close attention to what they wrote, for their words are like a lamp shining in a dark place -until the Day dawns,* and Christ the Morning Star shines in your hearts.
It really is the saddest thing . . That the organization can so drastically reverse course on major and minor things, and there will always be the ones that just nod and say, "no it's always been like this; nothing has changed at all."
The fact is, a month ago, you would have found just as many, if not more, scriptures to support the previous belief, because with a book that is so vague, contradictory, and taken so often out of context, it can be made to justify just about anything. And that's the point. How arbitrary it all is. How one day you open your eyes, and really see how HUMAN this organization is. It's not God's direction. It's just a group of old men, voting policies in a room, to maintain their power and control.
Best of luck on your path.
@@KeyatzinA further comment on that post....
"I guarantee that the congregation would have clapped and been happy if the same child had said "God wants all people to live." *So its not what the child says that they are really happy about, but observing the child's "first steps" in speaking publicly about the bible...*
*Anyone who believes Jehovah's Witnesses are particularly happy when young ones comment about the death of others has never really been a Jehovah's Witness.* My grandparents were Jehovah's Witnesses, my parents are Jehovah's Witnesses. I was in the organisation for almost 40 years...
I remember my first comments at the meeting as a kid... "David felt regret" (king David after he committed adultery) and "144,000."
I remember helping my exs kids write their comments for the meetings, they had comments books. Any time their comment was a bit too intense I'd help them rephrase it.
These Scriptures show how Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY think...
Deuteronomy 30:15,16 New Living Translation
*The Choice of Life or Death* *15“Now listen! Today I am giving you a choice between life and death,* between prosperity and disaster. 16For I command you this day to love the LORD your God and to keep his commands, decrees, and regulations by walking in his ways. If you do this, you will live and multiply, and the LORD your God will bless you and the land you are about to enter and occupy.
*19“Today I have given you the choice between life and death,* between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. *Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live!* 20You can make this choice by loving the LORD your God, obeying him, and committing yourself firmly to him. Thisc is the key to your life. And if you love and obey the LORD, you will live long in the land the LORD swore to give your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”
Ezekiel 3:18 New Living Translation
*If I warn the wicked, saying, ‘You are under the penalty of death,’ but you fail to deliver the warning,* they will die in their sins. *And I will hold you responsible for their deaths.*
Ezekiel 18:23 New Living Translation
*“Do you think that I like to see wicked people die?* says the Sovereign LORD. *Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live.*
Ezekiel 33:11 New Living Translation
As surely as I live, says the Sovereign LORD, *I take no pleasure in the death of wicked people. I only want them to turn from their wicked ways so they can live. Turn! Turn from your wickedness,* O people of Israel! Why should you die?
2 Peter 3:9 New Living Translation
The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. *He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent.*
Jonah 3:1-10 New Living Translation
Jonah Goes to Nineveh
1Then the LORD spoke to Jonah a second time: *2“Get up and go to the great city of Nineveh, and deliver the message I have given you.”*
3This time Jonah obeyed the LORD’s command and went to Nineveh, a city so large that it took three days to see it all.a *4On the day Jonah entered the city, he shouted to the crowds: “Forty days from now Nineveh will be destroyed!” 5The people of Nineveh believed God’s message, and from the greatest to the least, they declared a fast and put on burlap to show their sorrow.*
6When the king of Nineveh heard what Jonah was saying, he stepped down from his throne and took off his royal robes. He dressed himself in burlap and sat on a heap of ashes. 7Then the king and his nobles sent this decree throughout the city:
“No one, not even the animals from your herds and flocks, may eat or drink anything at all. 8People and animals alike must wear garments of mourning, and everyone must pray earnestly to God. They must turn from their evil ways and stop all their violence. *9Who can tell? Perhaps even yet God will change his mind and hold back his fierce anger from destroying us.”*
*10When God saw what they had done and how they had put a stop to their evil ways, he changed his mind and did not carry out the destruction he had threatened.*
1 Timothy 2:3-6 New Living Translation
*3This is good and pleases God our Savior, 4who wants everyone to be saved and to understand the truth.* 5For, There is one God and one Mediator who can reconcile God and humanity-the man Christ Jesus. 6He gave his life to purchase freedom for everyone.
*This is the message God gave to the world at just the right time.*
**Why do you think I can reel off all those Scriptures from the top of my head so easily? Because that is what I was ALWAYS taught from the bible by Jehovah's Witnesses...***
@@Keyatzin @lh1673 Well I did mention an example about how God is very positive in his view of people. *He wants all people close to him regardless of their background...*
Hebrews 11:31 New Living Translation
It was by faith that *Rahab the prostitute was not destroyed* with the people in her city who refused to obey God. *For she had given a friendly welcome to the spies.*
Luke 7:37,38,47,48 New Living Translation
*37When a certain immoral woman* from that city heard he was eating there, she brought a beautiful alabaster jar filled with expensive perfume. 38Then she knelt behind him at his feet, weeping. Her tears fell on his feet, and she wiped them off with her hair. Then she kept kissing his feet and putting perfume on them.
*47“I tell you, her sins-and they are many-have been forgiven, so she has shown me much love. But a person who is forgiven little shows only little love.” 48Then Jesus said to the woman, “Your sins are forgiven.”*
Humans separated from God like to criticise each other. However, God is the parent of ALL of all of us. He doesn't favour one above another...he loves us all. But he does appreciate those who listen to him and act as he would wish.
Matthew 5:43-48 New Living Translation
Teaching about Love for Enemies
43“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’q and hate your enemy. *44But I say, love your enemies!r Pray for those who persecute you! 45In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike.* 46If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. *47If you are kind only to your friends,s how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. 48But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.*
Acts 10:28,34,35 New Living Translation
28Peter told them, “You know it is against our laws for a Jewish man to enter a Gentile home like this or to associate with you. *But God has shown me that I should no longer think of anyone as impure or unclean.*
*34Then Peter replied, “I see very clearly that God shows no favoritism. 35In every nation he accepts those who fear him and do what is right.*
God does not look for error, he just notices it. But he focuses on those trying to do good...
Psalms 130:3 Amplified Bible
*If You, LORD, should keep an account of our sins and treat us accordingly, O Lord, who could stand [before you in judgment and claim innocence]?*
Luke 21: New Living Translation
The Widow’s Offering
1While Jesus was in the Temple, he watched the rich people dropping their gifts in the collection box. *2Then a poor widow came by and dropped in two small coins.a*
3“I tell you the truth,” Jesus said, *“this poor widow has given more than all the rest of them. 4For they have given a tiny part of their surplus, but she, poor as she is, has given everything she has.”*
Jeremiah 17:10 New Living Translation
*But I, the LORD, search all hearts and examine secret motives. I give all people their due rewards, according to what their actions deserve.”*
1 Samuel 16:7 New Living Translation
But the LORD said to Samuel, “Don’t judge by his appearance or height, for I have rejected him. *The LORD doesn’t see things the way you see them. People judge by outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”*
In court when a person is being judged, part of the trial is about motive. *Motive determines outcome.*
Deuteronomy 19:4-6,11-13 New Living Translation
*4“If someone kills another person unintentionally, without previous hostility,* the slayer may flee to any of these cities to live in safety. 5For example, suppose someone goes into the forest with a neighbor to cut wood. And suppose one of them swings an ax to chop down a tree, and the ax head flies off the handle, killing the other person. In such cases, the slayer may flee to one of the cities of refuge to live in safety.
6“If the distance to the nearest city of refuge is too far, an enraged avenger might be able to chase down and kill the person who caused the death. *Then the slayer would die unfairly, since he had never shown hostility toward the person who died.*
*11“But suppose someone is hostile toward a neighbor and deliberately ambushes and murders him* and then flees to one of the cities of refuge. 12In that case, the elders of the murderer’s hometown must send agents to the city of refuge to bring him back and hand him over to the dead person’s avenger to be put to death. 13Do not feel sorry for that murderer! Purge from Israel the guilt of murdering innocent people; then all will go well with you.
**Jehovah's Witnesses therefore are taught to refrain from judgment as humans cannot truly know the heart/motive of another (although actions can betray motive, especially actions over time).**
Matthew 7:1 New Living Translation
“Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.
John 7:24 New Living Translation
Look beneath the surface so you can judge correctly.”
@@Keyatzin I posted on another video on this same channel months ago... compare the Scriptures and principles used...
"Watchtower is encouraging children to get excited over mass murder"
Someone posted a comment and I replied. Its the first comment with 75 comments...
"@chloeparker8227 Technically not true. Children of Jehovah's Witnesses will survive and possibly ones who were studying but not yet able to reach baptism may also be saved. I was brought up as a Jehovah's Witness, nothing is further from the truth that we want people to die. That's repulsive to a Jehovah's Witness."
Please pardon my ignorance, but I'm unfamiliar with this particular translation of the Bible. Is this the standard translation in use by the JW's? I also wonder what these verses say in the KJV, and if the message gets altered in any way, as I know happens with some other passages. Thank you for your time, peace 💚
I’ve been disfellowshipped for almost 10yrs and in that 10yrs I’ve been actively at meetings and living right enough to get reinstated on 3 different occasions. Getting back has always been a goal of mine. When I saw JWs stop going house to house it caused me to slow down; when the elders told my brother he couldn’t go to a zoom meeting unless he provided a 2page letter first it caused me to get stumbled; when my brother 6months later shot and killed himself it caused me to go numb; but it wasn’t until I heard of the announcement to “no longer have to track time” and now “men can wear beards” as New Light from Jehovah-these changes are the Exact Reason why I am seriously considering writing my letter finally. But not a letter for reinstatement; no, but I want to DISSASSOCIATE myself now which is also me giving up the hope of ever ever talking to any of my family or old friends ever again. That’s sad. But I feel it’s sadder to be a part of such a hypocritical organization. I trully believe my brother would still be alive if we had grown up in any religion other than Jehovahs Witnesses. Mic Drop 🎤❗️
Wishing you all the best with your new journey, hope you go through with it
I know that it doesn't really help, but I am Soo sorry you had to go through that.
I'm so sorry you've been through this 😢 wishing you as much healing, peace and happiness as possible 😊
Oh no! I am DEEPLY sorry for the loss of your brother. At first, I would say not to give JW the satisfaction of writing them anything. But, in order for them to HEAR you're done with their stupidity and sheerly ruining lives, write it. Don't EVER return to this cult!
*"I am seriously considering writing my letter finally. But not a letter for reinstatement; no, but I want to DISSASSOCIATE myself"*
Don't play Watchtower's game! Please.
If you're still disfellowshipped you're already disassociated (not by choice), and a letter will do no good and will not change anything whatsoever.
If a JW wants to fade/exit from WT, just do it. No announcements, no letters, nothing. Just leave and don't say a word. Don't follow WT's rules by sending a disassociation letter, which has the exact same effect as disfellowshipping. Many JWs have this idea that a disassociation letter to WT is a big "Gotcha!" to WT. It isn't. All it does is tell WT that the JW still sees WT as an authority, and you felt obligated to follow their rules, as if the rules were valid in the first place.
The reason you don't want to officially disassociate is this: A faded/inactive JW who no longer claims to be a JW CANNOT BE TOUCHED BY THE ELDERS. No judicial committee, no discipline at all. The congregation and organization have NO AUTHORITY over that person. This is clearly stated in the Flock book. This being the case, you can still associate with JW family and friends (although they may choose to not associate with an inactive person). The elders can't do a thing about it.
Also, do not answer any summons from the elders to meet with them. This is to trick a person into voluntarily putting themself back under the authority of the WT. Don't do it! As long as you don't acknowledge any of the Elder's claimed authority, they have none over you.
There are people who have died because of SHUNNING! 🙏🙏🙏
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and if not physically... certainly, socially... or mentally and emotionally......
@@annapaulal.h.1393 poignantly pointed out! X
Yes and how many have died of broken heart syndrome, illness due to wrong teaching,
@@lucindasweden5778 I wholeheartedly agree! Personally I think there’s a high degree of people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. There’s several RUclips channels who discuss narcissism in the Bible and that it is an actual spirit! I wasn’t a person who believed this sort of thing; but I do now!
I never want anyone to suffer at the hands of the JW’s 🙏🙏🙏
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17
I’m happy you caught that one too. I was saying the same thing it is the biggest change with the religion I have ever seen. I can see them changing their shunning policy now if they acknowledge that some people need more proof and might leave the religion because they don’t believe it is true. The JW are going mainstream to survive.
I don't think they'll ever change the shunning policy, because they still don't want their members to be exposed to outside ideas that will cause them to be drawn away and realize they're being lied to
That would be wild if that happens.
Sounds true. But I think the Governing Body is responsible for so many deaths, so many suicides, abuses, sexual abuses, and destruction of families that people may dislodge these thugs altogether.
I agree with you. If people can come back at the last moment after they have proof then there’s really no reason for them to stay. And if they’re disfellowshipped for leaving, there’s really no reason for family and friends to shun them if they could just come back and family members who refuse to shun would be in the same situation.
They might. I definitely think there will be more major changes by 2025. This change might be leading up to that. The reality is, Jehovah will decide who does and doesn’t “make it”. But the idea is that if a person is DF they’ve been deemed wicked and would be destroyed. But that’s not up to any human to decide.
If God forgives murderers with impunity and even the worst criminal can get into the “kingdom” the day they repent…where do JW get off disfellowshipping people, even people who say they are sorry?? They want to have it both ways. It doesn’t work.
Exactly!!! Well said!!!
It's how they control you. Don't socialize outside the religion that way your whole world is in the religion. Then they can threaten to take your whole world away if you don't follow their every word. It's a true cult
“The Truth” stays the same and never changes. A lie changes and breeds more lies.
They better NOT touch blood policy for their own good! Kids,teens,moms,dads,grandparents have died because of that! That would be unforgettable and the beginning of a WAR!
That is a fact I lost my mother to this is 01
They are desperate for new members. They are also desperate to hang on to the existing small number of younger members.
It isn't going to happen. All their literature, their films, talks, it all would come back to haunt them. Much like it's doing now, only more.
Maybe the GB needs a 'college educated' Public Relations firm to help them transition
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You bring up a good point. Some of these policies (especially the medical ones) are life and death. With this new light, it seems like a lot of these policies are now on the chopping block.
The GB was supposed to be Jehovah's voice on Earth through His organization. They were supposed to be interpreting His will and now they seem incredibly wishy-washy.
People have literally died over WT's policies. Families have been torn apart. And now even the core tenets of the doctrine can be thrown out, people's lives upended, and there's NO NEED FOR AN APOLOGY? Not even a "whoops, my bad"
This seems like a slow conversion of the JW organization from a restrictive cult to a mainstream religion.
All Scripture is inspired of God+ and beneficial for teaching,+ for reproving, for setting things straight,+ for disciplining in righteousness,+ 17
@@VestalNumbre Ephesians 6:5
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."
No thanks...
@@seanspartan2023 The First of Samuel
1 Now there was a man of Ra·math·aʹim-zoʹphim*+ of the mountainous region of Eʹphra·im+ whose name was El·kaʹnah,+ the son of Je·roʹham, the son of E·liʹhu, the son of Toʹhu, the son of Zuph, an Eʹphra·im·ite. 2
If God can suddenly change his mind, then either he can be wrong or that you aren't getting info from God. Period.
And, it's reason for any JW to have ZERO confidence in anything WT says.
The organization will never apologize because narcissists never do. Evil cult.
Another side of this: basically making their members feel stupid for believing in anything they say anyway. The beard change, the new light, etc. the feeling it gives is that you, the member are stupid. “You don’t have beliefs. Your beliefs are our beliefs and they’re subject to change.”
The true paradise is being free of that level of stupidity. 🎉
Omg Amen!!!
In Project Mayhem a man doesn't have a name
When I heard this at the assembly this past summer, I WAS DONE! How in the Hell can THEY make THAT call?!! That is paramount to the 1914 ending, the 144,000 remnant calling!
This religion is a MONKEY SHOW!
They're making it up as they go along
Like they had at Blaydon races...
Well because it says that all those who do not take the mark of the beast will be saved. I'm not a jehovah's witness anymore but it's good news and more in line with bible teaching. The only people unhappy with this should really read Jesus's parable of the 11th hour workers. What business of it is yours what he does with his own things? Especially when it comes to who he gives life to
The Mark of the Beast upon the head and the hand...what we THINK and how we ACT matters. Being part of the WT, in my opinion, marks our minds and our actions according to the Beast called the Governing Body. A JW BELONGS to them.
@@christinesotelo7655 well, clearly not since they said that you can be saved during the tribulation 😆
I am so happy to here about those changes, maybe my daughter will come to talk to me again as it has been 9 years since she last spoke to me.
I cannot see them ever reversing the blood policy. Wobble gob Lett already stated there is going to be backlash from the beards announcement, and as you said, so many people have lost relatives including children because of the blood stand, there would be an absolute uproar, people would leave in droves, they'd never get away with not apologizing for that one.
I think that maybe Watchtower will just stop disfellowshipping. That way anybody can get blood without fear and Watchtower can avoid lawsuits. The whole “organization” is based on fear of disfellowshipping and death at Armageddon.
I agree, there would be a HUGE backlash at that one, and I doubt they could recover from that
Governments starting to pay attention may be the ultimate driver behind all the changes.
4th genner here who completely believed and lived and breathed what I now call 'the good old fashioned JW religion". I keep saying I don't think I can be anymore shocked by 'new light" or changes made, but I continue to be. Truly shocked. How I wish my mother and aunt etc. particularly my fanatical JW mother, to whom the cruelty was the point, and the fear she held over my head, even when I was doing everything perfect, that I would be destroyed at Armageddon (I was a fully in JW then) was her whole schtick. Her narcissism fueled her judgmentalism of all, and destroyed our family. These shocking changes would have made for some mind-bending exercises for her, and I only wished she had lived long enough to see them. Her death and the reaction of those I'd known for decades as she had been a JW since 1950 was what shocked me awake. They are all gone now, leaving only myself, without children alone in the world. It's truly heartbreaking and haunting. Thank you for keeping me up do date. You are the only ex-JW channel I watch.
Bro 😢
You’re not as alone as you think.💝. Joe & Fran are connecting ex JWs with others for this very reason!
ruclips.net/user/liveVSxXGkhwcm8?si=wUWQ_9cwts9ldeJV
I truly believe after having spoken with friends and family that many are not paying attention, don’t even know their current beliefs,and many use cognitive dissonance. That’s the only way to stay in this organization at this point in my opinion.
Just yesterday one who is “in” said they felt like they were in the Twilight Zone. That says a lot.
I fully agree with this. It's always 'oh what is it we believe about that now?' Group think 🙄
I said the SAME THING!! Are they even PAYING ATTENTION or are they just that stupid?! I've heard not 1 JW in my family even discussing this!! All they say is, "The GB is changing things and making it so much easier to serve Jehovah." I'm like, WTF?!
@@NoJediMindTrick The Watchtower is doing a 180 turn when now claiming that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah may get a second chance. The men in Sodom and Gomorrah were all evil gay men, as they demanded the right to sodomise the angel-men who came there to inspect the cities, attempting to find 10 righteous people to honour Abrahams request, so that the cities could be spared. There were no babies there, considering the men in Sodom and Gomorrah were gay and didn't even want to have sex with Lots daughters, who were offered to them instead of the Angel-men. The few women who were left were all materialistic, enjoying the lifestyle they had, enabling the men in the city to be sinful and evil. Even Lots wife turned into a salt statue on her way out of those evil cities, just because she turned back in longing for the materialistic lifestyle she had abandoned. How can the WT Governing Body claim otherwise now, considering all the times they have mentioned Lot's wife as a cautionary tale in their publications?
Matthew 10:15 only confirms that Sodom and Gomorrah will go through a final day of judgement as a town. ''14. And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.'' Hence, there is no doubt that all the people of Sodom and Gomorrah who were visited by Angels, will face a final judgement and detriment, although their death will be not as unbearable for them as for those who had seen Jesus and His Apostles in the flesh, and still denied their teachings.
The Watchtower is trying to turn this verse into meaning that every individual who is not accepting the Watchtower Witnesses (everchanging) teachings will be judged more harshly than the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, but this is total corruption of what the Bible states, and now the Watchtower is backtracking.
@NoJediMindTrick I was 8 in 1975 when the world didn't end as predicted. No one talked about it. Just pretended that it never happened. They are completely brainwashed. That included me til I was 21 or so
100% right. Most JWs have no idea what is actually said or written. And those that DO are labeled “apostate”.
The tower zombies don’t pay any attention to that. My aunt has been a JW for over 30 years and when I asked her about the 1914 generation she did not know how that happened, I explained to her and she was shocked 😳
I left in the early 90's I was wondering how they would handle the false 1914 generation teaching. Looks like they figured out a way lol
My dad was a jw for 30 years. He was disfellowshipped for the last couple years of his life and died bc he refused a blood transfusion. If they reverse that policy or even now are saying he could of gotten one and been forgiven that blows my mind!
Imagine the lawsuits if the blood policy is discarded!
I’m sorry for your loss. Yes, so many people are going to be devastated by that.
@@lawrencethornbury8081Ha! Imagine the mob going after them! They’d better find some hiding places or hope to hide in a prison cell! Much like Hitler hiding out in a bunker underground at the end.
It should have been a conscience matter from the start. Now they allow taking blood fractions. Where do they think the blood fractions come from? It's all about control. They are guilty as sin for causing the death of so many innocent people and children. My condolences on the death of your father.
@@eyeswideopen8570 there is not enough oxygen in fractions to carry to the brain during emergency surgeries. Full blood with its oxygen is needed.
It amazes me how WT is now saying "this is not in the Bible." The amount of damage that WT has done to people and families is staggering! It's almost like they are doing it on purpose. Incredible! Love your videos Wally!
I believe they are doing it on purpose and mocking anyone and everyone who ever took any of this serious, right to our faces 😢
The Governing Body is Afraid. Very afraid. They have dug their hole so deep, they can’t get out. The lives lost, the CSA not believed or victims unsupported, the isolation of children, the No Blood Doctrine, the business ventures they are now involved in that goes against their being “no part of the world”, the Governing Body KNOWS their reckoning is near and they are doing stupid things in their fury and fuss and fear. Where will they hide?
What's damage they doing, not like any misleading Realign, they make damage in voles in war in Moran and parts of this world,, They are following the Lamb,, 144,000,, semple Mettaw 24 , vers 45,, , why? Yes, the are the onitod The ezreal of God Jehovah Almighty Jehovah witness are awake,, Jesus is the head,,
@@carmelovella9728 If you can't see the damage they do then maybe there's no hope you ever seeing the truth. I don't know anyone my age. I'm 38 who wasn't sa abused by people in power. Elders ministerial servants and then shunned to control the leak of information to other congregation members! Let's start with that. Many more damaging things I can list, but this should wake people up in itself. They are of their father the devel. Actions always speak louder than empty words
@@carmelovella9728 investigate the Governing Body of eight New York men. This is where the problems lie.
I think the changes are a relief to the lifers. They don’t see the hypocrisy of it they just feel good that they no longer have to count time and now the guys can have beards. It makes it easier to survive inside the cult so they don’t care that it’s completely nonsensical. Just like when they stopped preaching door to door during the pandemic. We were always told the preaching work would never stop, no matter what and it pretty much did, not because of persecution but because of fear. The messaging has changed in the last 30 years, they have gotten less dogmatic in a way. So for those of us who remember how strict it was prior, it feels like a different religion. I have been out since 2018 but my parents are still all in. It’s sad to watch.
true...
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and if it isn't anymore... Was it ever?!
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If the changes had happened 5 years ago, i might have never left
@@CoffeeAddictEvanI’m still glad I left. I never would have fully individuated if I hadn’t. I learned a lot about myself and I no longer have a fear of dying or growing old. I’m excited for this journey I’m on. My mind is free of some guys ideas of right and wrong and I’m free to explore how I feel about things.
@@annapaulal.h.1393was it ever what? True? Or strict?
@@discussionswiththeuniverse you've explained my feelings perfectly
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies. --- Fleetwood Mac
It is a corporate entity that uses religion as it's business property. They change policies within the corporation to fit the needs of the business. Anytime money is involved in anything decisions are made to protect the bottom line. I would challenge anyone to explain how the JW'S organization is not a business. The major problem is this particular business has no real check or balances on what it does to it's employees.
Absolutely correct. So few understand that WT is a real estate and publishing corporation with a board of directors. Once you can wrap your mind around that, everything else makes sense.
I totally agree!! Your analysis is exactly what’s going on. Watchtower protects its bottom line which is to protect their monetary assets just the same as any corporate entity. Once a person steps back and looks at the big picture from a business model perspective Watchtower’s true nature makes sense. In this respect they’re no different from all the other religious hucksters using Christianity as a disguise.
A few things.
JWs are programmed to hear buzz words not to breakdown sentence structure and messaging.
They hear Jehovah’s loving undeserved kindness and boom they are convinced.
With the understanding of salvation, WT is setting themselves up to be able to say to authorities, a member can take any medical procedure, love anyone they want, walk away from actively preaching or attending church and they are still open to salvation.
I think this is a total CYA doctrine change.
What is CYA stand for please?
@@reneesalvatori1996
Cover Your A$$
Cover your ass
The Sheeple are so blinded that the majority wont even get it. The Sheeple are
In a Spiritual Coma!
The sad part is my parents are in that organization. My father claims he researched it very deeply back in the late 60’s when he joined, said he could find any holes in their policies and theories, Unlike other religions and that’s why he joined, (honestly I think it was because of no holidays, he grew up poor and never had a good experience during childhood holidays. Now he’s 80+ and has stated that he will leave all his money and assets to the organization. Hey if that’s his wish, he worked for it he’s welcome to do with it as he wishes. I was adopted by them at 12yo I am now 51, I have always looked at my father as a very intelligent man, but these religious choices make me question how someone can be duped into such controlling situation.
I fear there is not enough time now for him and my mother to be awoken. And it pains me!
Thanks for the education!
My mother years ago converted from Nation of Islam for similar reasons. Plus their wasn't a Muslim community where she was. Her workmate got her in to the Jehovah's Witnesses and their family used to babysit me. Fun times. She died in 2008 in the religion. And we had a huge service for her. This one was very unique to for a Jehovah's Witnesses. She was a U.S. Navy Veteran. Funny I totally ended up following in her footsteps. I left the org. joined the Navy, became a Muslim and went to college. And now its 2024 Happy New Year and now I chilled on my disability and check out ex Jehovah Witness videos.
Funny thing about I never really met full on Jehovah Witness families. I only knew what was known as a "divided household" One believing parent and a non believing parent. My mothers teacher her friend had a husband in the Maryland or either D.C,. Police force. We also moved around a lot due to the military. And I knew quite a few JW/Muslim families too. One was a black mixed Iranian couple, the others were black mixed Lebanese. So that made things a bit interesting lol.
Damn bro 😢
The assets that pay for the homes of alcoholic governing body members; who cover up the abuse of children and run around bethel naked? I do believe the organization wad much less hurtful and more beneficial, closer to the time of its origin - now, the atrocities and misleading teachings are more clear than ever.
I have another theory.... A very reasonable one, but with higher impact.
To sum it up, the new guideline regarding the lifting of the monthly reports is key to the new big announcement.
What did they eliminate by getting rid of the reports? The important answer, the ability for people to become Inactive.
Now that people can't become Inactive and "Fade away", they then made the new ruling of "You can leave if you want, and always come back later". Why? In order to make people think that the only way out now is getting DA'd or DF'd. Why? In order to basically force people to stay, because now the ONLY way out, is a way of isolation. Thus unofficially still telling everyone that they can't leave.....but to the press/public, the door is right there, and they're not extremists.
But in reality the new guideline is "You can leave if you want. As a matter of fact, we dare you to".
Exactly. Also the organisation is loosing people at a rapid rate, this is another way to artificially inflate the numbers on the anual report
How have the JW’s flown under the radar of extremism for so many years is beyond me. But I guess a lot of cults have been called out in the last 4/5 years so I’m just happy it is too.
Great show. Thank you.
I agree with the part of the talk that we cannot say absolutely that God might not give any who died from his direct judgement such as at Sodom and G, that they might get a resurrection; the decision is with the Almighty and not with us. But it would be a resurrection of Judgement, in that they would need to repent and change to living a righteous life.
That's a great edit Wally. They just discredited themselves. They just admitted to being a false prophet that interprets the bible blindfolded.
But, they have lots of excuses explaining why that's okay. False prophecy is bad when anyone else does it, but when Watchtower does, hey! No biggie! Nothing to see here.
If they get rid of the shunning policy, I wonder what my uncle that has not spoken to me in 15+ years would do
That's easy. He will just blame it on you and say that you shunned him. It's what they do.
If he tries talking to you tell him to shut up 😂
He will tell you it's because jehovah loves you and is giving you a opportunity to return to him
Damage has already been done to so many of those disfellowshipped, if they reversed that it might change some families & friends but surely not all
Walley, you can't tell me that the WTS doesn't watch your channel and they hate it! But us believers in real truth love your channel! Keep up your awesome work! They can't get anything by you!
My JW brother watched this entire talk and didn’t even realise that anything had changed.
No shit 😐
There is very little thinking going on here.
The sheep, unfortunately, are not very intelligent people. I hate to say that, but I think it's true. I have seen it first hand.
My family don’t see the changes. They are just numb and never asks questions.. and still blaming me for destrying the whole family.. though it’s almost 40 years since I disassociated.😢
The whole "you're lucky god lets you draw a single breath" take is what we've been fed from the watchtower our whole lives.
How about those of us that just simply decided to leave and had done nothing wrong? We’re being shunned for no reason! Loosing family and friends who want nothing to do with us! If only these men could really hear themselves! Do they write their own material or are others doing it for them! They are coming across so weirdly! 🤪
Leaving *is* doing something wrong. This is WT's mindset.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 yep that’s true
Deliberately or not deliberately, it's pretty much identical to the whole narcissistic abuse pattern. 'How dare you even disagree? You must repent from your autonomy and just accept that you are not permitted to have your own opinions or feelings ' 😂
I was on a zoom for the midweek meeting. The one woman totally supported the governing body. Another comment was that we don’t know.
I just sat there and laughed to myself, of course.
We were such good cultists.
Bring on the orange juice
The Governing Body is all men. That is for a reason: weak women will fawn all over them and obey the nice big men in the nice suits and ties. Fantasyland for unfulfilled females.
This is one of your best videos Wally. I loved it. You really nailed these clowns with your truth and humor. Thank you.
I’m pretty sure Wally is the best JW channel on RUclips. Always has great analysis, videos aren’t overly long, and he isn’t self righteous some of the other channels.
You are wonderful. You are so respectful on your channel. I have tried to become a witness 3 different times and just can’t. I hate organizations behind religions. I want to sit back and hear a sermon to be spiritually filled. I don’t want to hear everyone or even myself talking thru the message. No cross! No medical life saving blood! No college so you cling on to the organization for guidance on everything! The list goes on but you know. Keep it up please for all the sleeping people.
I love how he talks about the women and children and babies of Sodom and Gomorrah as if they are inherently and obviously innocent, yet they always blame women when their husbands hurt them, accuse children of tempting adults, and refer to babies as little enemies of God. They are cracked.
Let’s not forget they can use Marijuana!
Which is so gross!!!
This should of been kept to us worldlies!!! 😡🤬
Can they????
It's interesting Wally, you make a comment that I can really relate to. You said there was something that you didn't pick up on the first time you watched it. I find this happening to me a lot. When I view these talks a second or third time, I notice things that I didn't notice at first, like the GB member intimating that God was wrong when he killed EVERYONE at the flood. After all, isn't God able to read hearts? WTF!
what? seriously, I am gobsmacked. I've been out for over 20 years, and this is the first "big thing" that really feels like a BIG THING since I exited. Holy hell.
So glad 😂i have nothing to do with this CULT any longer. 😅
Wally, wouldn’t you say that the God of Jehovah’s Witnesses that has been taught by JW leadership does not make mistakes or second-guess himself, wouldn’t you say that’s a fair assessment of what they have taught for the past 140 years? I am a born in JW and I am now almost 71 and Jehovah’s Witnesses have always taught what the Bible teaches about how God cannot lie, and that he doesn’t make mistakes, or oopsies, and that would be correct, that is in harmony with what the Bible teaches,soooo all of the sudden
David Splane of the GB comes out with the audacity, gall, and impertinence with their narcissistic second-guessing Jehovah. Abraham already asked Jehovah if there was even 10 people worth saving. Well apparently Jehovah saved no one except for Lot and his two daughters, so did Jehovah judge wrong? why is David Splane second-guessing the Almighty? I believe it is a real possibility that they are trying to plug up their hemorrhaging of people. If his talk, and the talks of the other Governing Body members aren’t enough to burn your God-given spiritual conscience I don’t know what will. The Governing Body are trying to save their narcissistic megalomaniac empire.
The Governing Body are pathetically poor actors in feigning godly love toward their worshipers. It is clearly evident before the world to see they are piss poor actors. Their over exaggerated cartoonish characterizations of godly holiness, with the worst offender being Stephen Lett the Governing Body’s equivalent of Disney’s Goofy.
I thought David Splane looked a tad uncomfortable during his talk, almost apologetic. They know how they are.
Glad you see the hypocrisy! Have been out for decades but realized a long time ago that we were being scammed, lied to and dumbed down by a corporate entity masquerading as a religion. I was raised in a non JW family where lies and chicanery were a constant feature of everyday life. To sense the same kind of mind screw going on in the religion was when I began to wake up. All these recent changes and strange attitudes of the GB has only reinforced my distaste for the whole rotten mess. I’ve always been irked at the childish manner the GB uses in their talks. This affectation reeks of dishonesty. Lett’s the worst but they all use the tactic of patronization as if talking to mentally challenged children.
You’re right because they will get tired of being sued.
The problem is, these changes come about a decade too late. I appreaciate their efforts into making their God, and by extension their religion, seem more merciful and easy-going. But in my opinion, the demographic who they are doing these changes for have left within the last ten years and have already sufficiently settled into the secular world, and have no desire to be part of a religion that still is fundamentally not true.
I actually LOVE @MO2874 being on this log! Once again, another JWs proving the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are LOONEY TUNES!😅
The view I was raised with the view that the Annointed were going to be in Jehovahs service and that they themselves will have TRUE IMMORTALITY: meaning that Jehovah himself couldn't destroy them if he wanted to while they were in heaven with him. Another way they try deifey themselves above the concepts of God and Jesus.
My opinion: put your faith in Father God and Jesus Christ, and treat the JW organization like it’s your favorite book club 😎❤️🍹
If you got disfellowshipped for having a beard 10 yrs ago... are you allowed to be un-disfellowshipped now. Can you just come back n say I'm jw now without a judgment meeting?
No way. Even when it's proven the disfellowshipped JW was correct all along, they are still treated as guilty of a sin and must go through the entire arduous, legalistic process to get re-instated. God forgives. WT doesn't.
They never disfellowshipped for having a beard. Not sure where you got this from. If you had a beard, you couldn't have privileges. But you were never disfellowshipped...
According to my understanding, they don't know what roadside they are in.
I guess so much predicting the coming of the end as they have been doing, put them in a confuse state of mind, and cover up their own mistakes as they always been doing .
Dude , I am crying laughing 😹 ur very funny and very amazing ❤❤❤
Quick question to Mr Splane: how exactly would babies be resurrected? will they just be found lying around on the streets, between the birds eating the corpses of the evil world? or will they be re-incarnated / re-born? would they KNOW they were resurrected? would they be "preached" to or rather "indoctrinated from birth", and what would be the difference in their case? Would these be human beings without a free will after all?
This might bum out my Dad. He’s be practicing rejoicing in my death since the 70’s
All I can say is Wow!!!!
The sad thing is that many of the jw rank and file do not seem to have any knowledge of new light until faders etc tell them!
The speech Stephen Lett gave about the resurrected gay who had better not thought that he didn't have to change, right after the death of his disfellowshipped gay nephew, is stil edged in my mind. I can't believe that the GB is making all these changes with Stephen still on the board. He is the headboy of all the old school elders who made our life absolutely miserable back in the 80s and 90s.
They aren’t paying attention to the teachings. They are numb, hell the meetings are about watching videos and cartoons! Dumbing down
It's -5c today, Saturday, and I just saw my JW neighbor go out with a long skirt and pantyhose. Crazy when it's this cold out! So I predict they may change doctrine to allow women to wear pants / trousers in the freezing cold when they go out in service.
Nah, if they got rid of sexism they'd have nothing left.
Even hardcore indoctrinated witness women want the warm trousers to come in 😂 I wonder which scripture it would be for that? 😂
In Denmark, Norway and Sweden some already do when it's really cold. I remember my dad having a hard time accepting it, but I thought it was great to see, kind of badass having grown up in another country where you'd probably be counciled for doing it 😂 It's ridiculous that this could be an issue, and yes very sexist.
I’m just shocked all the ex witnesses haven’t come together to share these lies on a platform like Netflix as yet but one woman was able to do it for Scientology
Rebekah Vardy got a TV show on Channel 4 in the U.K. about growing up a JW being shunned
Man, I always hated the way Splane stages his humility or acts like he is saying something clever off the top of his comb-over.
Great video. I just subscribed as your content is the best. My mom is. JW for 40 plus years now.
I can't see them changing the blood policy, because it has killed hundreds of people. If they got rid of it or made it a conscience matter, it may incite violence on the part of those who's loved ones died due to the policy.
The witnesses are the most passive people you can find, there will never be violence against the GB coming from them 💀
@@ren.8137 Well that's not true, it's happened. But if you carefully read my post, I did not specify current witnesses. There are many former ones and non believers who have lost friends and family members. Invariably when I make a simple post on a video, someone chimes in just to be contrary. Sad.
what about the shootings and bombings...is that passive@@simplifiedlife8607
@@ren.8137 But some of their relatives are not JW's.
Powerful points you make!
6:21 I'm not even done watching this Wally and already you hit the 🎯🎯🎯 - the ones on the fence will stay because these new policies (and the new policies still to come) will make this cult tolerable and people with all their families still in - generations, siblings, cousins, etc - can stay in without losing their families (and in many instances their livelihood). What's crazy is it will be easier for them to then shun the people who were going to leave anyway UNLESS entire families LEAVE. And THAT is what watchtower does not want.
We are watching the death throws of a desperate dying organization.
They are honestly making a mockery of God with all the flip flopping. It’s insane and yet they’ve got their followers fooled into not being able to see the obvious
Sounds reasonable, and I sincerely hope you are correct
I love that Spain is making the Governing Body pay for their members' mental health. Hahahah Justice!
Wow this is mind-blowing content Wally thanks for the update
Sounds like Splane is seeing the light about the truth of the Bible.
This is one of the most craziest and dangerous [ religions ] ever.
This reminded me of a question I asked this person I studied with.
There’s a scripture that says once a person dies and comes back, they will have no memory.
So why do Jehovah witnesses talk about seeing their loved ones again if they’re not going to have any memory. She couldn’t answer my question.
This is so sad that lives have been lives by all these rules for so long.
Excellent break down!..I think you're right, they are aligning the organization for more changes. Either its becasue they are waking up or most likey, like you said, they are trying to look less extreme so they can check the norway box and keep being a religion...
Of course, the way the Society is going about this, it is bound to backfire. Clearly, the intent is to appear less like a cult. However, the Society is making these changes in the most cult-like way possible, thereby making the Society appear all the more like the cult it actually is. The "superior authorities" in such far-flung places as Australia, New Zealand, Norway, Japan and the Society's legal home of Pennsylvania are recognizing this.
In my own lifetime, the course the Society is taking here is not in itself new. It must be remembered that the Society filed an amicus curiae brief on behalf of Jimmy Swaggart with the United States Supreme Court when the state of California was attempting to collect sales tax from Swaggart for religious publications sold at his public meetings. The High Court, in an opinion written by Associate Justice Sandra Day O'Connor of late memory, agreed with California and ordered Swaggart to pay up. The Society responded with an end run by changing the contribution policy from suggested (with a price tag) to voluntary (without a price tag). Incidentally, this change took effect April 1, 1990, what non-witnesses regards as "All Fools' Day" or "April Fools' Day". Of course, the "joke" has ended up on the Society as now the contribution boxes are running dry and it is Jehovah's witnesses who have been made to look like the cultish fools.
The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (and related corporations) is doing far more to make itself look like a cult than either the governments of the world or we their citizens (including us as former witnesses) could ever do along those lines. These changes in the last few months from the annual meeting in October to the "Update" a couple of weeks ago are merely the latest demonstrations thereof.
They are definitely not waking up. They are scared and scurrying.
You make your own decisions, not from what you hear, a conscious decision from what YOU believe and understand.
i'm settling on the fact that I may never disavow Jehovah, but I cannot continue to follow this corrupt organization. The conclusion is that there is no way for an organization of men to truly convey the love of God or for other religions, to convey the complexities of their many gods. spirituality is the route to go if you don't want to drown in man-made religion.
You are a Champion Wally. Keep it up 👍🏼
I started to post everything that you said before actually watching the video then I just discarded everything because you’ve already said it it’s just a matter of time. This is the way business works. You can’t keep trying to sell DVDs on the train 😂😊 btw the story of Noah, was taken from another story of Gilgamesh
Perhaps we can see our grandchildren if this happens. We miss them so much. They are growing up so fast, and we have not been able to see them since they were little.
I love your channel Walley . You're a very passionate human. Keep doing what you're doing what you're doing my friend 😊❤
So....god is perfect but he makes mistakes? The governing body seems to think so. I cannot begin to fathom the sheer amount of mental gymnastics that it takes for a jw to convince themselves that this is the truth on any level.
The secret box! I died! 😂😂😂😂
Perplexing is correct
You have a good ass day too Wally. Thanks for the content
Spot on at 16:00 on blood and children and no apology needed. Unbelievable. Thanks for tying that up.
No one is listening 🙉 They're in a TRANCE
I like that one
11:38 he's actually reading scripture - then saying "but do we really know that?"
🗣️🗣️YALL!!!!!!
I love your content Wally, and especially love the way you appeal to anyone who is an honestly questioning believer.
All of the points you make are very well founded.
It does seem like they are making a major purge of the deadwood in the ranks of JWs. But I wonder if they are setting up some spoilers for “new light” in the coming months.
In sodom and Gomorrah for instance, it seems possible that they might have a refinement by saying that Jehovah told Abraham that if there were 10 “righteous” people in those cities, he would spare them.
If there were not “righteous” people, they still might be in Sheol, and therefore due for consideration for resurrection. They weren’t righteous, but even though god killed them, they might be deemed worthy of another chance… therefore “Gods ways are higher than our ways”.
The WT has flip-flopped on this issue quite a few times in the last half century or more, and every time the hardcore believers accepted the changes.
I wonder if they are consolidating their ranks, and have new regrouping strategies to double down and insulate against further losses.
In the speach it was said, 'disfellowshipped ones are afraid Jehovah won't forgive them...' actually I think it's what you go through if a disfellowshipped one tries to come back. The trying to prove to the elders that you are truly worth reinstating. Sadly, the person says to the elders they want to return, but they have to come to the meetings while proving they are sencere, but are still shunned every meeting and have to leave early so not to talk to anyone etc ... The GB will have to change that policy and many elders won't like giving up the power to bully and make the disfellowshipped one jump thru hoops, even though that wasn't done to the Bibical characters who 'repented'. In the Bible, they repented, made a sacrifice and presto!, accepted back in. Personally, I wouldn't go back even if the policy changed as it would feel like going back to an emotionally abusive relationship. However, many probably would for friends, family & familiarity.
I have family members who were elders and in the past when I’d try to get reinstated, they’d call me and tell me what I needed to say. Because they want to hear you say specific things or they won’t even consider you. No consideration for people that get anxious and mix up words. That was the only time I got reinstated the first time. Because I used the phrases and answers that my elder family members told me to say.
@@megan148 Too true. So much for the elders being guided by Holy Spirit through prayer to reinstated a disfellowshipped one.
Never too late to come back ' Moral laws are good ' keeps us clean then there are recommendations that one can choose to follow ' This RUclipsr is way over the top '
They can't change the blood policy because they will then be responsible for thousands who martyred their lives by refusing blood transfusions at their command. Losing lives is a serious issue and would be one change of policy unacceptable to the JW masses who've lost loved ones@
Excellent rebuttal Wally!
The GB should open up a shoe store. Why? Because of all of their flip-flops. (I'll see myself out now.)
🤣🤣🤣👏🏼😊
😂😂😂 we call them Jandals in NZ....😂😂
Now I have completely deconstructed, watching anything from them is extremely disturbing. Seriously, how did I ever believe anything that they came up with? None of it makes any sense at all. Thanks Wally
You always do an amazing job exposing their BS. Sad this is happening in just about every aspect of life not just Watchtower.
they have 0 compassion or empathy to trauma they caused, i could never stay with a group like that
The level of hippocrasy is overwhelming the elders entrusted to judge members are not trusted enough to check money contribution box alone but whatever they said about anyone else is true you will be asked to cooperate with them
I think the reason they shifted their understanding of scripture is because not many people are going out in service anymore, so they had to adjust their understanding to allow for the big decrease in publishing their good news.
Very astute observation Wally.