I missed a meeting once on a Thursday. I had never seen THE OFFICE before because it was on Thursday nights, a meeting night at the kingdom hall. It was the episode where Micheal grilled his foot on his George Foreman grill. When I tell you...I laughed so hard and in a way I hadn't laughed in years...I started to skip Thursday night meetings to watch the office and it changed my life. I was happier and it was the beginning of my "waking up" and tip-toeing out of the cult. A BREAK IS EXACTLY WHAT ALL JW NEED & DESERVE ❤
A break is important, yes. But just as important, is the need to remove Any and All opportunities for WT Org or JWs to Influence or Intimidate/Gaslight that Person Ever Again. You don't want it to be merely a "break/rest" but a Complete Removal(Body, Mind, Life Circumstances). Zero Connections. Zero Boundaries Crossed.
I still remember going out on the field ...raining,on cold weather,because they said ,Armageddon was around the corner ..I was 14 years old ...we were told not to study for more than 3 weeks with enybody that wouldn't show any progress ...and here we are 50 years later ..hooo crap!!!!
Been gone since 2014... I was an Elder when i woke up and I resigned and moved my cards to disapear and hearing this stuff reminds me why I git the hell out of that cult 🤯
I hope all previous elders from jw would testify to the current members why they have left their organization especially to those they have been leading previously.
Wow! Hallelujah. The weight of pharisaic teachings suddenly dissolved making way for actual Biblical truth. My sister (a disfellowshiped JW, that still goes to meetings) said “I’m sure as hell that hell doesn’t exist!” The irony of that remark! I told her to think about what she just said. I always said that I’d convince her of the rapture, then she said she had a rapture dream the night before but didn’t have any feeling toward it. I told her that I became born again and believed in the rapture before I’d even opened the Bible at all in a long time: I’m not going to Question what God puts on my heart. Out of all that I said, all she can respond with was “You don’t even call Him by His name, Jehovah!” My response to that was, you can’t enter the Kingdom without recognising the King. It’s always a back and forth battle with them. I rejoice that out of all of it, the Lord knows my heart and that I was defending His honour without discounting His deity. Who are we as the creation to question the Creator?! During the last ‘memorial’ video that they watch prior to the event, something (among much apostasy, & blasphemies) that was said during the message, was the elder calling Jesus a creature. 😤🤯😱 And calling Him ‘Michael’, Satan’s brother. 😠 That was in March and steam is still blowing out of my ears and nostrils!! The seeds are always being replanted, and within time. The Lord will make it happen. blinded to this scripture, even though they know that it’s speaking of Jesus. Who Was Who is, and Who is to come. Revelation 4:8 KJV And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, **Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.** Even so, Maranatha 🙏
This is basically what I proposed to my husband when I left the organization. I suggested that he would read the Bible alone and not going to meetings for one month. He started to see the WTS lies within that time.
Sorry about your father. He sounds like a good soul who cared about other people’s souls. Have you had any masses said for him? If you haven’t, I urge you to do it. My father passed away it was unexpected and traumatic. God bless you and your family.
Thank you wally for your upload. You don't even know how your videos helped me to leave this disgusting cult. Thanks to you I left, I don't let my daughter be sucked in it (she went to first birthday party she was invited to - she's only 8) I can make my daughter happy. Make her have a childhood I never had. I woke up my parents. I stood up against my wife, and my inlaws. Although my wife is completely inactive. She is in this cult only for the sake of her mom and sister not really believing this crap that much. Thnx alot Wally. Your videos were the first I came across.
I told my mother all the changes that were coming & she pretended to believe them all already.🙄 She won't take any breaks. She also said to me "do u want me to lose all my friends?" Apparently, her fake friends are more important than FAMILY.
She’s scared is all. Friends are someone to grow old with. Family grows up and moves away or moves on, even if they’re caring still. Friends become important in later life.
I have the same experience 👍. She simply dont want to be alone. She told me she takes it as her social circle and thats what she cares about. Not doctrines.
I think when people get older, people lose critical thinking skills and ambition and stick to what they know, sometiems even if it's wrong. I beleive thsi happens to a lot of people after 35. Up until 25 we tend to be more open to new ideas and naturally question things in my opinion.
Also if something is true then it WILL stand up to scrutiny. So, don't be afraid to do some study outside the JW library of books. Don't be afraid to pick up another Bible translation. If something is true it's true.
I have a variety of Bibles in my house. Mostly Protestant but I also have two Catholic Bibles, and the infamous NWT that I collected when I was a Bible student with the local JWs. Don’t worry about me. I have no intention to sign up for the GB cult. I love celebrating my birthday. 🎂🥳🎊
I use I AM from King James Bible because most believe Jesus is God. But that is not what it means. The meaning of the name Yahweh is not limited to the related verb found at Exodus 3:14, which reads: “I AM Who I AM ” In the strictest sense, those words do not fully define God’s name. Rather, they reveal an aspect of God’s personality, showing that he becomes what is needed in each circumstance to fulfill his purpose. So while the name Yahweh may include this idea, it is not limited to what he himself chooses to become. It also includes what he causes to happen with regard to his creation and the accomplishment of his purpose.
Yahweh is from the Samaritans. John 4:22 Samaritans had their own temple! Within the region of Samaria, in the city of Sychar, was Jacob’s well. This was the location of Jesus’ conversation with the Samaritan woman, who asked, “Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?” (John 4:12). Later in the conversation, she brought up a centuries-old controversy: “Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem” (verse 20). “This mountain” is a reference to Mount Gerizim in the central Samaritan highlands, the place where the Samaritans had built their own temple, which they considered the true temple of God. John 4:22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews.
Never once could I ever remember as an active JW feeling happy or as if I was living the best life ever. I almost always hated my life and just felt inadequate and depressed as a born in JW. It is a destructive belief system that only fosters doubt and depression. They claim to be the happiest people on Earth because they have the "truth". Nothing could be farther from that. The JW's are so repressed and caught up in beliefs they cannot even explain. Imagine believing billions of humans are going to die because they just didn't get dunked in water and say I believe in Jehovah. 🤔
Amén to that my friend ...in my case goin out to preach was really a pain in the neck .. I was a poor boy in Mexico ..and remember going to beautiful houses ,and I wondered how come These people that were not jw were able to progress economically while ,we were poor and barely able to make it ,I couldn't see any blessing in that .
@@anthormiga1 - I agree!! Going out in service & having to give parts at meetings only gave me anxiety! Having to go out & get Bible studies was even more nerve wracking! I hated every minute of it. Then on top of all that, no school activities, no sports, no dances & no worldly friends .. no wonder I hated it so much.. ugh
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
@@terridovey7648Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Hi Vusi! 🙋♀️ You're not teaching the gospel of the kingdom brother. You're teaching a false god, and not salvation that is given by Christ Jesus. You're teachings are false. I do pray for you, and all jw's that you will someday overcome cognitive dissonance. Love always my friend.I 🙂
@@terridovey7648 But your ignore my simple question Terry 😭, which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
😮 That is brilliant!!! That’s how I made my decision to leave for good. I was PIMO for so long and after the Australian Royal Commission I spent a year out due to a “brother” taking out a restraining order against me because I reported him for suspected abuse and that made me realise been PIMO wasn’t worth it. I was living my best life out here in the real world. I wasted so much of my time and my kids time pretending just for family that dropped me like a hot potato. That’s not love or real. Get out of her because her destruction is near.
Good points! This reminds me of the advise from Steven Hassan's book "Freedom of Mind." When doing an intervention with someone in a cult, the goal is to get them away from the influence by inviting them on a trip, vacation, or visit to family. The constant indoctrination stops the critical thinking abilities.
I equate it to being involved with Drug Dealers and WT Org Indoctrination is the JW's "Fix". If you can convince the person to not be involved with the Cult and Other JWs, in some way, for a certain length of time; They will no longer "Need" that Fix. Just like People will do whatever necessary to remove the "Dealer" from having Influence and Access to their "Loved One/Friend", It's just as Imperative to Interrupt that "Relationship" with the WT Org Pushers. It's Life and Death Serious.
Burnout is a powerful weapon Wally, and i think youre right to highlight it. Because the Witnesses know just as well as we do that when theyre constantly bombarded with the endless JW.borg content, they fall away fast and hard. Because they realize there's nothing substantial to the beliefs and realize that you dont "need" Jehovah to live a good life.
Revelation 17:17 The Burnout of a Good Life Nero of the Roman Empire worshipped the Sun God Apollo! Even if Jesus did not exist they would follow Sun, Moon, and Star Worship! Revelation 17:17 The Roman Empire allowed Christianity but created a Pagan Jesus. Constantine made Christianity the main religion of Rome, and created Constantinople, which became the most powerful city in the world. Historians link the advent of Christianity to Sol Invictus partly because December 25 marked the so-called Feast of the Unconquered Sun before it became officially recognized as the birthday of Christ. The Winter solstice, alternatively called Yule or Sol Invictus, is a pagan celebration Emperor Aurelian established in 272 CE. Aurelian strengthened the position of the Sun god Sol Invictus as the main divinity of the Roman pantheon. He declared Dec. 25 as the birthdate of the “Invincible Sun” and made the day a feast-day. Deuteronomy 4:19 And when you raise your eyes to the heavens and see the sun and the moon and the stars-all the army of the heavens-do not get seduced and bow down to them and serve them. Jehovah your God has given them to all the peoples under the whole heavens.
@@strappedfatman7858No one I ever knew worshipped the sun or the moon or a statue or a gol-danged Christmas tree! Respect and fascination and feeling good over Gods Creations and man’s Art? Yes. But worship? I think you must be silly to bow down or worship things. You do, really? 😂
Constantine was a pretty diplomatic guy, picking a Birthday for Jesus so we could think of Him as a baby. No Christian seemed to care about Him. I think it’s pretty wonderful!
@christinesotelo7655 Indus Valley beyond Babylon! The Heavens Gods! Acts 7:39... in their hearts they turned back to Egypt, 40 saying to Aaron: ‘Make gods for us to go ahead of us. For we do not know what has happened to this Moses, who led us out of the land of Egypt.’ 41 So they made a calf in those days and brought a sacrifice to the idol and began to enjoy themselves in the works of their hands. 42 So God turned away from them and handed them over to offer sacred service to the army of heaven, New Living Translation Acts 7:42 Then God turned away from them and abandoned them to serve the stars of heaven as their gods!... New International Version Acts 7:42 But God turned away from them and gave them over to the worship of the sun, moon and stars.... GOD'S WORD® Translation Acts 7:43 You carried along the shrine of Moloch, the star of the god Rephan, and the statues you made for yourselves to worship. I will send you into exile beyond the city of Babylon.'
@@christinesotelo7655A global pandemic that killed thousands of people? 😐 Where do yall get this logic from ? No different than the JWs crazy indoctrination beliefs.
thanking is essential my friend. They have made you afraid of your own mind. Because they want to control you don’t you see? Study. Read. Investigate for yourself. And then your thoughts will be thoughts that are true. You can’t run in fear and say oh no no no I can’t think. I can’t think I can’t think. You must think! You must train your mind to think! Not to run in fear like a child. That is absurd. Stop it. Go get the information. You will stop being afraid.
A recurring thought has crossed my mind for years, that rather told me long ago that they are missing the whole point. All these years they have been on the hamster wheel with one goal in mind. Making it into the new system and gaining eternal life. Pause and think, their entire belief system is about what they hope to get out of it in the long run. What if they were to believe that this is all there is. What if they were thinking of being moral and kind and having gratitude for what they have been given. A beautiful planet to be born and lived upon for the years they live. So many have died at birth and never even had the chance to know what a tree is. But those of us that have lived have gotten to enjoy and experience living, for good or bad. If the only prize was the life we have, how many would be spending that time in gratitude that they got to have that life. Would they be praying and giving thanks for that? I think the greedy running after a future something they hope to get out of it is their real stumbling block. Not just JWs but religions in general. They have to dangle a carrot. If there is a creator that cares for us, I would venture to guess that the deity would be judging more on what was in the hearts of people and approving the people who enjoyed and appreciate what they have right now. Not how well they could chase after the carrot.
So true about being prescribed something with them not knowing your circumstances. Midweek meetings were always so hard for me. 7:30 is late for my personal life to leave and be gone until 9:30. Especially when you have young kids on a schedule.
The three-month wait is such good advice! But I remember that everytime I even thought about withdrawing even a bit, I remembered: “Bloodguilt” if someone died before I could “get them onto the ‘boat of salvation’”, and then what if I die or someone in my family?! We will be destroyed! See? They prey on your mind, really early on.
I so agree with this! I left after we had several blizzards and there were no meetings for 8 weeks in 2007. It’s more about the constant hamster wheel of activity and indoctrination that keeps people in. When people have that interruption in their patterns of thought and behavior, it allows them to question what they believe. Also, I am sorry you didn’t have a grandma who would dole out a roll of Lifesavers or a dozen butterscotch disks during the course of the weekly meetings to keep you quiet. 😂
Thanks for the episode Wally. :) Basically, a total break of 1 month was enough to get me out. In 1998/1999 my work on implementing the Euro currency in the bank I was working at and handling the Y2K 'bug' required me to do a lot of overtime and miss a lot of meetings & field service - and I was too damn tired to do any 'personal study'. The result? ... Even when I could go back - I didn't want to. I started to see things differently. I started to see other "worldly" people differently - that they weren't all "the enemy". Previous to that I was a one-time bethelite, a MS gunning for Elder, and a pioneer. ... It didn't take long for absence to reawaken my dormant BS filters. I've been happily out ever since (first as a PIMO then formally disassociated later). Unfortunately, I have been unsuccessful in waking up my last surviving relative. ... But who knows, hey?
I woke up during the pandemic too (late 2021). It started in March when I dreaded doing Bible studies. Then in September, I realized it wasn’t the truth and I started getting do scared. Since then, I would feel angry and depressed but it started getting better. Not saying it’s a happy ending, but I feel mad that my life could’ve been much better if I hadn’t associated with these ppl for 17 years.
Try & think of it as a part of your life experience. You will be able to put it behind you & become more the wiser. Ask yourself, "what did I learn from this?" Grow from this experience.
It was so freeing to be able to say: “I don’t know!” once I was out of the WT and not have to constantly KNOW the ridiculous “truth”. We’d make up answers out of thin air because we HAD to or suffer “Bloodguilt”! When I was a little Catholic school kid, the nun would ask me some Catholic religious question and I’d just shrug my little shoulders and say: “I dunno!” and she’d whomp me! Then I grow up and get into WT and same thing, but we HAD to pretend the recruit was stupid as a doorbell and we wouldn’t know how to answer a question but we HAD to answer, so we’d make something up because we would get WHOMPED by WT elders if we couldn’t answer! The freedom now is wonderful: “I dunno”! I remember one guy at a door asked: HOW MANY types of animals did Moses bring onto the ARK?” We’d think and debate and be looking up scriptures. Then give some wobbly answer. Then he’d laugh and laugh and simply say: “Moses didn’t BRING animals on an Ark! NOAH did!” Hahaha.
Great to see you back! Yes my wife is still not sure the Faithful Slave is! She is disfellowshipped, and I can say she did not deserve that treatment. Her biggest problem is she cannot separate the idea she can still worship Jehovah without the Organization. As if she needs the Organisation to approach God! 🙄 So I asked is it not Jesus the only approach to Jehovah and not the Organisation? 😮 So it's a delima for her. But I stumbled onto a podcast showing the use if a spiritistic translator used by Nathon Knorr to translate the New World Scriptures back in 1950's Johannas Greber A Catholic Priest know for his spitistic practices. And later Watchtower publications trying to explain it away saying they never knew this about this Johannas Greber! 😮 Which we gave documentation Knorr was aware! Of course this info is widely known by Bible Scholars except Jehovah's Witnesses innocent sheep like ones like my wife! And over 8 million other sheep! Ive been around since early 70's and I just learned this yesterday! What you don't know can kill you! 😮
This is a reality check and you are probably aware of it ~~ The fact that there are plenty of well educated specialist teaching and explaining The Bible and Religion on RUclips and The Internet these days Without a motive or Agenda that it just puts the JW monopoly on what the Bible says in perspective a level playing field in which to get empowerment ~~Dont be fooled by character assassination thinking someone knows more than you ~we are all in a process of learning and as we learn more our opinion can change
The Demons knew Jesus wasn't God! James 2:19 You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder.
@@strappedfatman7858 John 1:1 says Jesus is "a" God. That's 2 Gods. If a human has a child, then they have a human child. When God has a child, that child is also godly. Any loving decent parent wants better and more for their child. There is no reason to argue over two good things.
@@strappedfatman7858Yes, Jesus is God. Thank you. Strapped for food? Ask Him to help you. He will. Demons cannot enter where Yeshua is. Fill yourself with God.
“a”which is an article in the grammar of the English language, is just that: misplaced and misinterpreted as most of NWT is. Huge amounts is Scripture have been taken out of your grey Bible. You’ll see. It’s ok.
New Light: The software update for your JW OS that overwrites everything you used to “believe” and instantly makes you “believe” something that you stopped “believing” years ago, but is now safe to rebelieve once more.
I have more study routines now than I did before 😂! I wasn’t a good witness. I didn’t study. I went out for 20 years came back not knowing all these new light and rules. I had no idea! I just followed along after coming back…I still questioned yet, really thought it was true. I only came back for family. I didn’t know them. Now, I don’t even like them. Not forcing myself to be apart of a family I don’t even like. Pfffttt so not hard walking away from them. Shunning them is my new thing. It was like being in a coma for 20 years waking up and seeing them as aliens. Everyone grown, married with kids. I don’t know them. This is a perfect time for me tho. As I will get to see a change in borg and realize I was right all along….PRICELESS 😅😂😂😂
I learned my best lesson from JWs: how to shun. As a free Apostate, whenever I’m with anyone or group I don’t want to engage with anymore, I merely walk away. It’s great!
@@christinesotelo7655 Reading your post just inspired me to coin a new term: ShunShine… 😂! One could even consider it as a word in “NewSpeak”, jws should be familiar with the concept 😂… Try saying it ten times, after having partaken of some Macallan’s scotch 😂, you know, the one for whom Tony Morris is a poster child (or is that plastered child 😂)
My elder father keeps haranguing me and specifically saying: “this is the YEAR OF GOOD WILL, and right now is the time to get right with Jehovah.” Anyone else experiencing this-specifically that term, “year of good will??” Would love to hear from Wally and/or any of the community on that one. Thanks! Another great vid as always!
That's the first I've heard of a "year of good will", but what it sounds like to me is its one of those new slogans that the GB comes out with every convention. Just give it time, and it'll be replaced with a new one.
@@reluctantheist5224 I love your reasoning! Haha. Somewhere way back, I seem to recall hearing that term, but can’t quite put my finger on why, what or when. He’s said this to me recently 2 or 3 times also.
@@reluctantheist5224 I thought that a day (for humans) was as a thousand years (again as experienced by humans) with god… Maybe you’ve discovered some “new light” 😂? Please elaborate 😆…
The Witnesses I speak to seem to have a good knowledge of particular parts of the Bible, and there are several of these so it starts to look like a good general knowledge, outside of that though they seem to be pretty blank. They are good at directing people to their favourite parts and when that fails they do their tag-team distraction techniques (when in groups) to divide your attention. If that doesn't work then the move tends to be to regard you as an opponent and thus close the conversation down. Once you get to that last part the conversation is pretty much over, so I tend to allow them to stay mostly in their comfort zone before ushering them towards the weeds again. The cart thing is both good and bad for this. they can't easily leave like they could during door-to-door (so you can take your time), but they seem happy just to stand around looking Witnessy - so they can take their sweet time too..
Enjoyed your comment...”ushering them towards the weeds again”! Ha! Yes and I agree. They mainly repeat the same Scriptures over and overuse. They do not take Scriptures in full context either
I left in 2015 when I was 21, I remember having that idea before leaving, il take 3 to 6 months away from it and give myself sometime to make a clear decision on what I believe to be true. Which it was pretty clear after I got away from the Indoctrination that pretty much everything I thought to be true wasn't and i reset my life. It definitely made it easier for myself at the time of been in the fold to adopt this reasoning and made it easier on my friends and family letting me to my break from it. Good luck to anyone who gives themselves the freedom to step away and make a sound choice. I'm sure whatever you choice either way you'll be more sure of yourself.
I can see a shift in you after your road trip, I'm so excited to see all your content from it! I would love to talk to my mom about this and see what she has to say.
I stepped away for a “good” reason because I was so sick from Lyme I couldn’t attend and I streamed in (pre pandemic). But even then it broke my spiritual routine and I did slowly wake up
The watchtower needs to already be held accountable in the United States to the full extend of the law for all the sexual abuse against minors worldwide as the watchtower it is officially located in the United States
I took a break when I became so exhausted with keepig up with life and the demands of the wittnesses. I was soooooooo relieved and never went back. This was years ago and "A" still hasnt appeared.
You make a very good point. I hope my family sees the new broadcast and wheels start spinning in their minds. So pointless to shun someone if they can be welcomed back in with open arms during great tribulation when the whole world can see it is true. At that point will all those that are shunned want that relationship back with someone that have shown they can and would shun them for their entire life at the drop of a hat. That person in my opinion is “unsafe” to be in a relationship with.
How can the GB sleep at night knowing they are convincing people to waste their life and give money. I would be riddled with guilt, and I couldn't have to gutter morals to say it's ok because I'm living good.
@@dantheexjw8839 but they have to look at 'the truth' to keep as much hidden as possible. Also the GB have to deal with all the top line financials. Why was tony a drunk for so long, Rolex watches, not putting in the pot themselves, backtracking on their own guidance. The top one though is that Jesus needs to guide them somehow, they don't even know how that happens.
We’re human. That’s the truth: you tell people they’re going to live forever but only if they join WT or get destroyed and what do you expect? Those OUT don’t fear death like JWs do and don’t spread death messages to neighbors door-to-door! Logical.
This is a reality check and you are probably aware of it ~~ The fact that there are plenty of well educated specialist teaching and explaining The Bible and Religion on RUclips and The Internet these days Without a motive or Agenda that it just puts the JW monopoly on what the Bible says in perspective a level playing field in which to get empowerment ~~Dont be fooled by character assassination thinking someone knows more than you ~we are all in a process of learning and as we learn more our opinion can change
Good point, Wally! I'm curious to know how the new 'just tick the box' policy and the new approach towards witnessing (informal, see the new brochure) will influence their spiritual routine... Is WT shooting itself in the foot? And yes..I faded during the pandemic😊
We all seem to know someone that went to a foreign language congregation or moved to a foreign country where they didn’t speak the language. They soon began to wake up because they were not hearing the constant threats and indoctrination
PS. It's good to be back and to hear your voice. I had to unplug for a bit to mourn the loss of my child. I didn't realize how much I missed listening to your videos.
The constant meetings and endless literature to read is constant conditioning. Being with a group of people trying to maintain this routine causes one to be socialized to it, thus making it "normal". Reading the Scriptures, understanding the history and the culture of the accounts, helps to form a better foundation for personal responsibility. "Cramped and narrow is the way," "I will judge you individually".
I would ask them whats the differece between jw and other religion. The answer is the governing body, then let them proof that the gb has the right to control everybody. They cant prove it, because the bible verses are just random
You're right. They can't prove it because it's not biblical. That's one reason why the wt is considered a "cult". It's heartbreaking because satan has sooo many of them warped that they really don't know the real Truth. (John 14:6)
I have a very unique situation. My family has contact with me because I was never baptized but we do not talk about the org or religion. Any suggestions on how to get this seed started? I would like to get this going before part 2 is up on the site.
Personally, I would think that if you have a relationship with them and don’t have to talk about religion, like politics, I’d leave it be or you risk losing them. They are choosing the WT. I’d not stand in the way of their Rights yet I’d be un baptized and remain that way so that when they are disfellowshipped or have doubts, you can be there for them. If they pressure you into being baptized, I’d simply say that you choose to take your time in various studies and investigations. Period. That is YOUR Right. ❤
They're changing the timing of the final judgment to prepare for the great spinning of their declining numbers. "We don't need JW numbers to increase. We're just the message-bearers. People will see we're right in the end. Jehovah is a merciful judge."
I meant to reach out about ur trip! Me and my friend are ex jws and wanted to meet up with you in charlotte. Ah well, too slow I guess 😂 anyways I 100% agree that that the pandemic hit them real hard. Being taken off the hamster wheel is a great eye opener for most people
I work in a female only gym and being Xmas talk has come around to the decorations etc - I mentioned I was in a cult it was then a staff member let me know that a few of the members are JW and they keep inviting her to the meetings etc. I had to let her know that for their sake not to mention I used to be one (even though I’m not DF to my knowledge I could still be viewed by them as a spiritual danger to them) they wouldn’t be allowed to talk to me and it would be really uncomfortable for them. Conversations will be interesting further down the track.
I shortly have to say, I still have dreams about not going to congregations and my mind is riot in my dreams. After 17 years my mind still works on that. Isn't that crazy? When I have to tell myself in my dreams "u don't need to worry, you are no jw anymore u don't need to go congration and u don't have to feel troubled about it". That's so messed up if you think about it. Anyone else? I feel pretty alone with that because I don't know anyone else that was a former jw so far. I had to go my journey alone, and I mean alone, completely alone. We'll, taught me what real love is in the end and what is manipulation.
If I left for three months, it would probably would be a relief except for the excessive phone calls coming from the Elders. I guess I'm going to have to get a second line and turn my main one off. lol I wonder if Jeffrey Winder's part is going to be in the second part. I'm curious to see how much editing they will do when it comes to the "Not inspired" comment.
If JWs "take a break", the elders will begin to ask questions and think he/she is not spiritual enough which could lead to disfellowshipping and shunning. Read Lloyd Evans' book "The Reluctant Apostate"; in the book, he said that when he stopped going to meeting on a regular basis, the elders began to harass his wife as to why he was not coming to meetings and going out in service. Another thing that could happen is soft shunning, so that might not be the best way to approach waking someone up. Furthermore, it also does not work if the person's entire family/friends are in the cult because he/she will have no one to turn to which will leave the person in a permanent state of being PIMO.
I think we're making a big mistake in reading too much into what was said at the annual meeting. They never said you can willfully leave with the intention of coming back at the last minute and still be saved. If I recall correctly, they said "maybe ... we don't know" in the case of those that genuinely drifted away or genuinely got expelled because of falling into sin. They never intimated that you can willfully scheme to go back to the world with the intention of returning at the last hour and all will be fine. They're not even saying that this is absolutely the case in regard to those who drifted away or were expelled. They said 'we _don't_ know'. That gives them enough room to go back to the hardline position of making sure you're in the ark (the org.) at all times because again it's maybe, maybe not. 'We simply _don't_ know'! Tomorrow they can say: "Well is it wise to slack off, or maybe even stop serving Jehovah altogether with the thought that you can always return when the Great Tribulation breaks out, and Jehovah will forgive you? Do not be deceived, God is not one to be mocked! Jehovah knows the difference between a genuinely lost sheep that drifted away, and one scheming and plotting to cheat him out of the devotion and service he is due. Never presume on Jehovah's mercy or abuse it for selfish gratification. It will not work!"
I like how this is the most balanced take in this whole commentary section. This really was about a warning against those who intentionally scheme and cheat their way to paradise by joining back at the last minute. The motivation of the individual is key. Plus, it is unfair to those who genuinely drifted away due to life circumstances and personal struggles.
lol. you can listen to these videos and still believe in the great tribulation? Your mind is as locked as a bank vault. And I feel so terribly sorry for you. Why don’t you look up how many times Jehovah’s Witnesses have changed their doctrine as to when the great tribulation is coming? The world was supposed to end like five times by now I think. They remove all the false “prophecies” aka bs meant to scare you so they can control you, and then make up new ones. And you believe it all. why? Why are you so afraid to think for yourself? you’re going to have to read in study. You are going to have to remember what critical thinking is and not be afraid of it. There is no evil in information.
No one is trying to scheme or cheat a god they don't believe in to get into a paradise that's made up. This is just about con men adjusting their false prophecies to buy themselves more time for fear mongering. It's got nothing to do with people who wake up from the lies of the cult. Nobody who wakes up wants to get back in. Silly
I couldn’t hold my horses! That idea of withdrawing a bit was back in the 70’s when you couldn’t even THINK of taking a break! Your relatives and door-to-door people HAD to be saved through a Study because there was no second chances back then! Now? I’d run and keep going and I’d LIVE and I’d celebrate Christmas!!!!
Its true this is the best way to wake up from jw mindset. I stop going regularly a year before before covid. and it was because I really didn't like people from my hall and it gave me social anxiety and depression. So I made up excuses to not go and when covid happened and meetings were on zoom I was so happy and relieved. Because I no long had to make up lies or excuses of why I was not going to meeting. I felt guilty though so I tried zooming after a whole year and watch the covid updates and I just couldn't see it the same anymore. I had not gone in so long that when I did again it was so clear something was not right with Jw org.
Is "spiritual routine" a new jw catchphrase? ETA a new question- I heard a couple years ago that there was new light along the lines of no one who isn't an active, baptized witness isn't going to make it through Armageddon. I might be wrong. But that was my understanding. Does this new light you're twlking about negate the previous one?
got out 28 years Ago will not accept any other religion and happy to just be me. I was an over the road trucker and visited many kh during my 45 years on the road al the same mind set in all congratgation
No religions at all for me. I couldn’t even sit in a church after WT without panicking. You being a long haul trucker, I think it’s kinda nice you had that habit. I’m not a JW anymore or ever would be again, but good for you! Nice habit. ❤
For some like me, this and my own curiosity and realization of the bible and the religion's injustices and erroneous beliefs helped me wake up (even listed as agnostic in my hospital records last visit!) But for some like my mom, who dont believe in the "imperfect men" and shoo away any negative talk cause she's seen god answer her prayers when no one was there to care for us when we was by ourselves (family either dead, cut off or belligerent, manipulative, and argumentive), doesnt care what is happening with others in the org as long as it isnt her, and would never let anyone take away her faith....yeah that is a super hard nut to crack even if she isnt as dutiful as the more zealous witnesses. (My dad's side and her are chill and don't shun and celebrate holidays and are nice. But their apathy toward the org and their reliance on god and the only family they have keep them there....i don't know really how to properly word it typing it out but my mom and my aunts are the best people and the worst witnesses (bad witnesses are good lol) but they especially my mom would never give it up and even said she doesnt care if god kills her cause she is good with herself and her choices and her life was better with god than without (sort of. But anyone can make better choices regardless of religion, but yeah). It really worries me cause i cant talk about it with her. We agree to disagree but do not discuss religion at all and it works most of the time, but times like this even if a brother or gb member said something, if i said anything to the contrary, even from the bible, she'd wave it away and leave the room. So how do you even begin to crack the hardest nuts like that? She is a good person, the best mom ever, but how can you begin to even try to talk when it is met with not listening and immediate dropping of the subject? Sorry if my rambling and typos are atrocious, i am not used to speaking out about this stuff even if ive been PIMO since 2018, but this video made me think i may have a chance to appeal to her, but knowing my track record....i am afraid to try again.
I agree it’s the most logical argument for helping JW’s wake up but I tried this on my family and a couple of people I felt it might help but if their walls are up there’s literally nothing that will spark them. They think they’re making room for Satan in their lives by using critical thinking. I wrote a letter to my sister with the words “if something is true it remains true under the most scrupulous investigation” she sobbed me into the elders and I ended up in a preliminary JC
Technically, it is encouraged in the JW organization to critically think for themselves what beliefs one holds. It's even encouraged in the Scriptures itself (Proverbs 2:11, 14:15). A common mistake that tends to happen for a not fully intellectually mature JW individual when faced with information that could present doubt is that he might misalign the points of "developing thinking ability" and "safeguarding thinking ability" (Prov 3:21). Both of these types of critical-thinking decisions are like polar opposites in an axis. They can't be done at the same point in time. An individual has to choose when to "develop" or to "safeguard" what they already know. Thus, when faced with information that could bring doubt, an immature JW's tendencies is to give in to the fear of uncertainty, and that alone is a huge barrier that prevents him from thinking something critically. One cannot focus being thoughtful and introspective while being gripped by feelings like fear, and this is simply not faith-strengthening to them, so it's easier to dismiss doubts by shoving it under the rug or throwing the responsibility onto someone else rather than making it their own. This is why a lot of JWs mistakenly conclude that critical-thinking is Satanic (contrary to the Scriptures they claim to live for) because it takes real skill to develop critical-thinking abilities, which not everyone on earth is naturally-able to do (some are feelers than thinkers for example). So, how much more the JW population?
You can’t wake up someone who doesn’t want to be woken up. The governing body can tell them to cut one of their fingers off as part of their worship and they still pick up their bags to the next meeting 😩
Wait so at this point, no JW knows about the new changes? I’m just trying to figure out because my parents just had their assembly or annual meeting or whatever last weekend.
This organization ruined my entire life for their dogmatic beliefs back in the 80s to now just say that it doesn't matter anymore. And they are becoming more "mainstream" and televangelists. Hate is strong word, I feel rage and rath. My family stopped talking to me for almost a decade. I guess I wasn't done processing this "new light" cause that hurt when my brain finally processed what all this meant. Thanks Wally. Everyday is a good day to not be in a cult. Shout to A-aron and SP tv 📺 🙌🏼
I agree ,the annual meeting pt2 is gonna be a revelation on its own.was with a family member the other day and had a very close call, let's just say they've been on their "break" and they started going on about the annual meeting and all of this information just flooded out of them ,I was shocked that they knew so much . So I had to steer the convo a different way so they didn't self sabotage 😅😬 but for me that was enough to show me how much of an effect this new schmite from the governing boobie has had on pimi's. I mean personally I always use the bible if a witness questions something I do ,it's a pretty good handbook to debating a jw. But this new info is gonna be hard not to talk about
Did I hear, I think it was Losch , or however his name is spelled, at approx. 12:50 refer to JONAH talking about the door to the Ark being closed 😂? At least Noah and his family got in…Whew, that was close 😂…
For me, I left the religion when I was 18, 26 years ago I still believe that the religion was the true religion. Ironically, my father kicked me out the house, because he was the presiding overseer, and he was having sex with some woman in the congregation, and I was the only one who knew about it he had to get rid of me to protect himself, which caused me to not care, and do whatever I want to be rebellious one would say.. the only reason I was able to wake up from the nonsense was when I dated this girl who was Muslim, but she wasn’t practicing and we would half our discussions about religion. So I wanted to prove to her. Her belief was wrong, and then that process I prove that what I believe was wrong, and the longer I was the way the more I became truthful to myself, but that wasn’t until almost 10 years after I left the organization before I started to truly wake up, I don’t see how a few months can help people wake up but if it does more power to them, I would hope everybody can get out of this religion, even though that’s impossible
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I missed a meeting once on a Thursday. I had never seen THE OFFICE before because it was on Thursday nights, a meeting night at the kingdom hall. It was the episode where Micheal grilled his foot on his George Foreman grill. When I tell you...I laughed so hard and in a way I hadn't laughed in years...I started to skip Thursday night meetings to watch the office and it changed my life. I was happier and it was the beginning of my "waking up" and tip-toeing out of the cult. A BREAK IS EXACTLY WHAT ALL JW NEED & DESERVE ❤
A break is important, yes.
But just as important, is the need to remove Any and All opportunities for WT Org or JWs to Influence or Intimidate/Gaslight that Person Ever Again.
You don't want it to be merely a "break/rest" but a Complete Removal(Body, Mind, Life Circumstances). Zero Connections. Zero Boundaries Crossed.
@@sparklecanada0112 I agree... but it all starts with a little break... then a longer break... then planning an exit strategy.
I remember that one, and Michael would keep the grill on for his breakfast bacon, and he had bubble wrap on his burnt foot! 🤣
The Office woke you up! What a fantastic story... and a testament to how damn great that show is. I love that so much!!
I love the sound of crackling bacon in the morning.
I still remember going out on the field ...raining,on cold weather,because they said ,Armageddon was around the corner ..I was 14 years old ...we were told not to study for more than 3 weeks with enybody that wouldn't show any progress ...and here we are 50 years later ..hooo crap!!!!
Been gone since 2014... I was an Elder when i woke up and I resigned and moved my cards to disapear and hearing this stuff reminds me why I git the hell out of that cult 🤯
I hope all previous elders from jw would testify to the current members why they have left their organization especially to those they have been leading previously.
Do unbaptized publishers have to remove their cards? How do I know the elders removed them?
Wow! Hallelujah.
The weight of pharisaic teachings suddenly dissolved making way for actual Biblical truth.
My sister (a disfellowshiped JW, that still goes to meetings) said
“I’m sure as hell that hell doesn’t exist!”
The irony of that remark!
I told her to think about what she just said.
I always said that I’d convince her of the rapture, then she said she had a rapture dream the night before but didn’t have any feeling toward it.
I told her that I became born again and believed in the rapture before I’d even opened the Bible at all in a long time:
I’m not going to Question what God puts on my heart.
Out of all that I said, all she can respond with was “You don’t even call Him by His name, Jehovah!”
My response to that was, you can’t enter the Kingdom without recognising the King.
It’s always a back and forth battle with them.
I rejoice that out of all of it, the Lord knows my heart and that I was defending His honour without discounting His deity.
Who are we as the creation to question the Creator?!
During the last ‘memorial’ video that they watch prior to the event, something (among much apostasy, & blasphemies) that was said during the message, was the elder calling Jesus a creature. 😤🤯😱
And calling Him ‘Michael’, Satan’s brother. 😠
That was in March and steam is still blowing out of my ears and nostrils!!
The seeds are always being replanted, and within time. The Lord will make it happen.
blinded to this scripture, even though they know that it’s speaking of Jesus. Who Was Who is, and Who is to come.
Revelation 4:8 KJV
And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, **Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.**
Even so, Maranatha 🙏
This is basically what I proposed to my husband when I left the organization. I suggested that he would read the Bible alone and not going to meetings for one month. He started to see the WTS lies within that time.
Even one watchtower study article and throw in a few gospel text and the hole thing go side way
Congratulations, and well done!
Great suggestion
My father was dying at his house with hospice care, and all he was worried about was preaching to the nurse which came over each day
That's heartbreaking.😪
Very sad I hope you’re doing well now .
Hugs to you ❤
We saw the same thing with one of our dying family members. It was cringy and embarrassing to be honest.
Sorry about your father. He sounds like a good soul who cared about other people’s souls.
Have you had any masses said for him? If you haven’t, I urge you to do it. My father passed away it was unexpected and traumatic. God bless you and your family.
Thank you wally for your upload. You don't even know how your videos helped me to leave this disgusting cult. Thanks to you I left, I don't let my daughter be sucked in it (she went to first birthday party she was invited to - she's only 8) I can make my daughter happy. Make her have a childhood I never had. I woke up my parents. I stood up against my wife, and my inlaws. Although my wife is completely inactive. She is in this cult only for the sake of her mom and sister not really believing this crap that much. Thnx alot Wally. Your videos were the first I came across.
And after leaving this "disgusting cult", you became non religious right? Or you joined catholic? Follow your desires. The End will surely be here.
Proud of you fam! You literally saved your daughter from mind control and cult indoctrination. 🎉 good for for helping others leave as well! ❤
I believe in most things but not in 5% of poison they put in bible truth. They use Bible as a bait, as mouse gets cought by piece of good cheese.
I'm an ex-jaydub. I left at 16 in 1996. Glad I did. Love these videos, while I'm still trying to undo the wrongs from my childhood
Spiritual routine means keeping you busy so you don't think of yourself.
I told my mother all the changes that were coming & she pretended to believe them all already.🙄 She won't take any breaks. She also said to me "do u want me to lose all my friends?" Apparently, her fake friends are more important than FAMILY.
My mom would never either. I wish this would work
She’s scared is all. Friends are someone to grow old with. Family grows up and moves away or moves on, even if they’re caring still. Friends become important in later life.
That was proven to me many years ago... Friends over family...
I have the same experience 👍. She simply dont want to be alone. She told me she takes it as her social circle and thats what she cares about. Not doctrines.
I think when people get older, people lose critical thinking skills and ambition and stick to what they know, sometiems even if it's wrong. I beleive thsi happens to a lot of people after 35.
Up until 25 we tend to be more open to new ideas and naturally question things in my opinion.
Also if something is true then it WILL stand up to scrutiny. So, don't be afraid to do some study outside the JW library of books. Don't be afraid to pick up another Bible translation.
If something is true it's true.
🌿AGREED!🌿
❣️
I have a variety of Bibles in my house. Mostly Protestant but I also have two Catholic Bibles, and the infamous NWT that I collected when I was a Bible student with the local JWs. Don’t worry about me. I have no intention to sign up for the GB cult. I love celebrating my birthday. 🎂🥳🎊
I use I AM from King James Bible because most believe Jesus is God. But that is not what it means. The meaning of the name Yahweh is not limited to the related verb found at Exodus 3:14, which reads: “I AM Who I AM ” In the strictest sense, those words do not fully define God’s name. Rather, they reveal an aspect of God’s personality, showing that he becomes what is needed in each circumstance to fulfill his purpose. So while the name Yahweh may include this idea, it is not limited to what he himself chooses to become. It also includes what he causes to happen with regard to his creation and the accomplishment of his purpose.
Yahweh is from the Samaritans. John 4:22 Samaritans had their own temple! Within the region of Samaria, in the city of Sychar, was Jacob’s well. This was the location of Jesus’ conversation with the Samaritan woman, who asked, “Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?” (John 4:12). Later in the conversation, she brought up a centuries-old controversy: “Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem” (verse 20). “This mountain” is a reference to Mount Gerizim in the central Samaritan highlands, the place where the Samaritans had built their own temple, which they considered the true temple of God. John 4:22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews.
Never once could I ever remember as an active JW feeling happy or as if I was living the best life ever. I almost always hated my life and just felt inadequate and depressed as a born in JW. It is a destructive belief system that only fosters doubt and depression. They claim to be the happiest people on Earth because they have the "truth". Nothing could be farther from that. The JW's are so repressed and caught up in beliefs they cannot even explain. Imagine believing billions of humans are going to die because they just didn't get dunked in water and say I believe in Jehovah. 🤔
Be joyful now. You are free! ❤
Exactly 💯
Amén to that my friend ...in my case goin out to preach was really a pain in the neck .. I was a poor boy in Mexico ..and remember going to beautiful houses ,and I wondered how come These people that were not jw were able to progress economically while ,we were poor and barely able to make it ,I couldn't see any blessing in that .
@@anthormiga1 - I agree!! Going out in service & having to give parts at meetings only gave me anxiety! Having to go out & get Bible studies was even more nerve wracking! I hated every minute of it. Then on top of all that, no school activities, no sports, no dances & no worldly friends .. no wonder I hated it so much.. ugh
Chile I was never happy either and most jws If not all are depressed the vibes were always depressing they are suffering
How I despise this organization and its rhetoric of fear and manipulation.
🌿AMEN🌿
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
@@terridovey7648Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
@@vusimngomezulu2500 Hi Vusi! 🙋♀️
You're not teaching the gospel of the kingdom brother. You're teaching a false god, and not salvation that is given by Christ Jesus. You're teachings are false. I do pray for you, and all jw's that you will someday overcome cognitive dissonance.
Love always my friend.I 🙂
@@terridovey7648 But your ignore my simple question Terry 😭, which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16,24:14,28:19-20,Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses.
😮 That is brilliant!!! That’s how I made my decision to leave for good. I was PIMO for so long and after the Australian Royal Commission I spent a year out due to a “brother” taking out a restraining order against me because I reported him for suspected abuse and that made me realise been PIMO wasn’t worth it. I was living my best life out here in the real world. I wasted so much of my time and my kids time pretending just for family that dropped me like a hot potato. That’s not love or real. Get out of her because her destruction is near.
Good points! This reminds me of the advise from Steven Hassan's book "Freedom of Mind." When doing an intervention with someone in a cult, the goal is to get them away from the influence by inviting them on a trip, vacation, or visit to family. The constant indoctrination stops the critical thinking abilities.
I equate it to being involved with Drug Dealers and WT Org Indoctrination is the JW's "Fix".
If you can convince the person to not be involved with the Cult and Other JWs, in some way, for a certain length of time; They will no longer "Need" that Fix.
Just like People will do whatever necessary to remove the "Dealer" from having Influence and Access to their "Loved One/Friend", It's just as Imperative to Interrupt that "Relationship" with the WT Org Pushers. It's Life and Death Serious.
Burnout is a powerful weapon Wally, and i think youre right to highlight it. Because the Witnesses know just as well as we do that when theyre constantly bombarded with the endless JW.borg content, they fall away fast and hard. Because they realize there's nothing substantial to the beliefs and realize that you dont "need" Jehovah to live a good life.
Revelation 17:17
The Burnout of a Good Life
Nero of the Roman Empire worshipped the Sun God Apollo! Even if Jesus did not exist they would follow Sun, Moon, and Star Worship! Revelation 17:17
The Roman Empire allowed Christianity but created a Pagan Jesus. Constantine made Christianity the main religion of Rome, and created Constantinople, which became the most powerful city in the world. Historians link the advent of Christianity to Sol Invictus partly because December 25 marked the so-called Feast of the Unconquered Sun before it became officially recognized as the birthday of Christ. The Winter solstice, alternatively called Yule or Sol Invictus, is a pagan celebration Emperor Aurelian established in 272 CE. Aurelian strengthened the position of the Sun god Sol Invictus as the main divinity of the Roman pantheon. He declared Dec. 25 as the birthdate of the “Invincible Sun” and made the day a feast-day.
Deuteronomy 4:19 And when you raise your eyes to the heavens and see the sun and the moon and the stars-all the army of the heavens-do not get seduced and bow down to them and serve them. Jehovah your God has given them to all the peoples under the whole heavens.
I wonder if that’s part of the decision to cut hours and get rid of reporting so they don’t keep losing so many people exhausting them
@@strappedfatman7858No one I ever knew worshipped the sun or the moon or a statue or a gol-danged Christmas tree! Respect and fascination and feeling good over Gods Creations and man’s Art? Yes. But worship? I think you must be silly to bow down or worship things. You do, really? 😂
Constantine was a pretty diplomatic guy, picking a Birthday for Jesus so we could think of Him as a baby. No Christian seemed to care about Him. I think it’s pretty wonderful!
@christinesotelo7655
Indus Valley beyond Babylon!
The Heavens Gods!
Acts 7:39... in their hearts they turned back to Egypt, 40 saying to Aaron: ‘Make gods for us to go ahead of us. For we do not know what has happened to this Moses, who led us out of the land of Egypt.’ 41 So they made a calf in those days and brought a sacrifice to the idol and began to enjoy themselves in the works of their hands. 42 So God turned away from them and handed them over to offer sacred service to the army of heaven,
New Living Translation Acts 7:42 Then God turned away from them and abandoned them to serve the stars of heaven as their gods!...
New International Version Acts 7:42 But God turned away from them and gave them over to the worship of the sun, moon and stars....
GOD'S WORD® Translation Acts 7:43
You carried along the shrine of Moloch, the star of the god Rephan, and the statues you made for yourselves to worship. I will send you into exile beyond the city of Babylon.'
9:24 A huge number of JWs just needed a way to not attend but not appear spiritually weak.
The pandemic simply gave them that opportunity.
God has His Ways!
@@christinesotelo7655A global pandemic that killed thousands of people? 😐 Where do yall get this logic from ? No different than the JWs crazy indoctrination beliefs.
Stay busy do not give yourself time to think on your own.
thanking is essential my friend. They have made you afraid of your own mind. Because they want to control you don’t you see? Study. Read. Investigate for yourself. And then your thoughts will be thoughts that are true. You can’t run in fear and say oh no no no I can’t think. I can’t think I can’t think. You must think! You must train your mind to think! Not to run in fear like a child. That is absurd. Stop it. Go get the information. You will stop being afraid.
That’s a favorite tactic of many organizations, including high control cults, and the armed forces 😂…
A recurring thought has crossed my mind for years, that rather told me long ago that they are missing the whole point. All these years they have been on the hamster wheel with one goal in mind. Making it into the new system and gaining eternal life.
Pause and think, their entire belief system is about what they hope to get out of it in the long run.
What if they were to believe that this is all there is. What if they were thinking of being moral and kind and having gratitude for what they have been given. A beautiful planet to be born and lived upon for the years they live. So many have died at birth and never even had the chance to know what a tree is. But those of us that have lived have gotten to enjoy and experience living, for good or bad.
If the only prize was the life we have, how many would be spending that time in gratitude that they got to have that life.
Would they be praying and giving thanks for that? I think the greedy running after a future something they hope to get out of it is their real stumbling block. Not just JWs but religions in general. They have to dangle a carrot. If there is a creator that cares for us, I would venture to guess that the deity would be judging more on what was in the hearts of people and approving the people who enjoyed and appreciate what they have right now. Not how well they could chase after the carrot.
So true about being prescribed something with them not knowing your circumstances. Midweek meetings were always so hard for me. 7:30 is late for my personal life to leave and be gone until 9:30. Especially when you have young kids on a schedule.
It's frustrating we don't get to see Zezee anymore, you should do something about it 😢
The three-month wait is such good advice! But I remember that everytime I even thought about withdrawing even a bit, I remembered: “Bloodguilt” if someone died before I could “get them onto the ‘boat of salvation’”, and then what if I die or someone in my family?! We will be destroyed! See? They prey on your mind, really early on.
That’s crazy to think that God would need us to save people. I’m glad you are out. I’m working on a friend. Right now
I so agree with this! I left after we had several blizzards and there were no meetings for 8 weeks in 2007. It’s more about the constant hamster wheel of activity and indoctrination that keeps people in. When people have that interruption in their patterns of thought and behavior, it allows them to question what they believe.
Also, I am sorry you didn’t have a grandma who would dole out a roll of Lifesavers or a dozen butterscotch disks during the course of the weekly meetings to keep you quiet. 😂
Werther’s original for me
Thanks for the episode Wally. :)
Basically, a total break of 1 month was enough to get me out. In 1998/1999 my work on implementing the Euro currency in the bank I was working at and handling the Y2K 'bug' required me to do a lot of overtime and miss a lot of meetings & field service - and I was too damn tired to do any 'personal study'. The result? ... Even when I could go back - I didn't want to. I started to see things differently. I started to see other "worldly" people differently - that they weren't all "the enemy". Previous to that I was a one-time bethelite, a MS gunning for Elder, and a pioneer. ... It didn't take long for absence to reawaken my dormant BS filters. I've been happily out ever since (first as a PIMO then formally disassociated later). Unfortunately, I have been unsuccessful in waking up my last surviving relative. ... But who knows, hey?
I woke up during the pandemic too (late 2021). It started in March when I dreaded doing Bible studies. Then in September, I realized it wasn’t the truth and I started getting do scared. Since then, I would feel angry and depressed but it started getting better. Not saying it’s a happy ending, but I feel mad that my life could’ve been much better if I hadn’t associated with these ppl for 17 years.
Try & think of it as a part of your life experience. You will be able to put it behind you & become more the wiser. Ask yourself, "what did I learn from this?" Grow from this experience.
I understand
Hello 👋🏽
how are you doing today?
Satan has successfully taken you captive. Bye
@riverman8891 , Satan is a man-made idea. Satan is a figment of man's imagination to throw blame onto.
@@riverman8891😂😂😂😂😂😂 Imagine believing in an invisible devil as an adult. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This applies so well to any controlling environment and situation. Thank you for your work.
I would rather have questions i cant answer than questions I cannot ask.
Very good point.
It was so freeing to be able to say: “I don’t know!” once I was out of the WT and not have to constantly KNOW the ridiculous “truth”. We’d make up answers out of thin air because we HAD to or suffer “Bloodguilt”! When I was a little Catholic school kid, the nun would ask me some Catholic religious question and I’d just shrug my little shoulders and say: “I dunno!” and she’d whomp me! Then I grow up and get into WT and same thing, but we HAD to pretend the recruit was stupid as a doorbell and we wouldn’t know how to answer a question but we HAD to answer, so we’d make something up because we would get WHOMPED by WT elders if we couldn’t answer! The freedom now is wonderful: “I dunno”! I remember one guy at a door asked: HOW MANY types of animals did Moses bring onto the ARK?” We’d think and debate and be looking up scriptures. Then give some wobbly answer. Then he’d laugh and laugh and simply say: “Moses didn’t BRING animals on an Ark! NOAH did!” Hahaha.
Some of these people aren't just sleeping-they're in a coma.
Great to see you back!
Yes my wife is still not sure the Faithful Slave is! She is disfellowshipped, and I can say she did not deserve that treatment. Her biggest problem is she cannot separate the idea she can still worship Jehovah without the Organization. As if she needs the Organisation to approach God! 🙄 So I asked is it not Jesus the only approach to Jehovah and not the Organisation? 😮 So it's a delima for her. But I stumbled onto a podcast showing the use if a spiritistic translator used by Nathon Knorr to translate the New World Scriptures back in 1950's Johannas Greber A Catholic Priest know for his spitistic practices. And later Watchtower publications trying to explain it away saying they never knew this about this Johannas Greber! 😮 Which we gave documentation Knorr was aware! Of course this info is widely known by Bible Scholars except Jehovah's Witnesses innocent sheep like ones like my wife! And over 8 million other sheep! Ive been around since early 70's and I just learned this yesterday! What you don't know can kill you! 😮
This is a reality check and you are probably aware of it ~~ The fact that there are plenty of well educated specialist teaching and explaining The Bible and Religion on RUclips and The Internet these days Without a motive or Agenda that it just puts the JW monopoly on what the Bible says in perspective a level playing field in which to get empowerment ~~Dont be fooled by character assassination thinking someone knows more than you ~we are all in a process of learning and as we learn more our opinion can change
The Demons knew Jesus wasn't God! James 2:19 You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder.
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John 1:1 says Jesus is "a" God. That's 2 Gods. If a human has a child, then they have a human child. When God has a child, that child is also godly.
Any loving decent parent wants better and more for their child.
There is no reason to argue over two good things.
@@strappedfatman7858Yes, Jesus is God. Thank you. Strapped for food? Ask Him to help you. He will. Demons cannot enter where Yeshua is. Fill yourself with God.
“a”which is an article in the grammar of the English language, is just that: misplaced and misinterpreted as most of NWT is. Huge amounts is Scripture have been taken out of your grey Bible. You’ll see. It’s ok.
New Light: The software update for your JW OS that overwrites everything you used to “believe” and instantly makes you “believe” something that you stopped “believing” years ago, but is now safe to rebelieve once more.
I have more study routines now than I did before 😂! I wasn’t a good witness. I didn’t study. I went out for 20 years came back not knowing all these new light and rules. I had no idea! I just followed along after coming back…I still questioned yet, really thought it was true. I only came back for family. I didn’t know them. Now, I don’t even like them. Not forcing myself to be apart of a family I don’t even like. Pfffttt so not hard walking away from them. Shunning them is my new thing. It was like being in a coma for 20 years waking up and seeing them as aliens. Everyone grown, married with kids. I don’t know them. This is a perfect time for me tho. As I will get to see a change in borg and realize I was right all along….PRICELESS 😅😂😂😂
I learned my best lesson from JWs: how to shun. As a free Apostate, whenever I’m with anyone or group I don’t want to engage with anymore, I merely walk away. It’s great!
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Reading your post just inspired me to coin a new term: ShunShine… 😂!
One could even consider it as a word in “NewSpeak”, jws should be familiar with the concept 😂…
Try saying it ten times, after having partaken of some Macallan’s scotch 😂, you know, the one for whom Tony Morris is a poster child (or is that plastered child 😂)
@@greyberet1 Hahaha! That was great! Thanks I needed to laugh! Now off to a bottle of Scotch and some Shunshine!!!
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Hi again, enjoy that Shunshine! Remember to apply some “Shunscreen” to protect yourself from too much “New Light”… 😂.
You were probably experiencing what Rip Van Winkle did after sharing some of Hendrik Hudson’s rum, or whatever it was. You remember the story 😂…
Geoffrey Jackson saying, "We can't be dogmatic" ...When... "Dogmatic" is exactly what this organization has been all about...🫤
My elder father keeps haranguing me and specifically saying: “this is the YEAR OF GOOD WILL, and right now is the time to get right with Jehovah.”
Anyone else experiencing this-specifically that term, “year of good will??” Would love to hear from Wally and/or any of the community on that one.
Thanks!
Another great vid as always!
A thousand years is as a day to God. So you have until 2914 at least
Omg. Lol. Now they are into good will? What's the excuse for NO good will for the past 120 yrs ??
That's the first I've heard of a "year of good will", but what it sounds like to me is its one of those new slogans that the GB comes out with every convention. Just give it time, and it'll be replaced with a new one.
@@reluctantheist5224 I love your reasoning! Haha. Somewhere way back, I seem to recall hearing that term, but can’t quite put my finger on why, what or when. He’s said this to me recently 2 or 3 times also.
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I thought that a day (for humans) was as a thousand years (again as experienced by humans) with god…
Maybe you’ve discovered some “new light” 😂?
Please elaborate 😆…
You’re awesome do you have one of the most entertaining and interesting channel Keep up the good work.
The Witnesses I speak to seem to have a good knowledge of particular parts of the Bible, and there are several of these so it starts to look like a good general knowledge, outside of that though they seem to be pretty blank.
They are good at directing people to their favourite parts and when that fails they do their tag-team distraction techniques (when in groups) to divide your attention. If that doesn't work then the move tends to be to regard you as an opponent and thus close the conversation down.
Once you get to that last part the conversation is pretty much over, so I tend to allow them to stay mostly in their comfort zone before ushering them towards the weeds again.
The cart thing is both good and bad for this. they can't easily leave like they could during door-to-door (so you can take your time), but they seem happy just to stand around looking Witnessy - so they can take their sweet time too..
Enjoyed your comment...”ushering them towards the weeds again”! Ha! Yes and I agree. They mainly repeat the same Scriptures over and overuse. They do not take Scriptures in full context either
I left in 2015 when I was 21, I remember having that idea before leaving, il take 3 to 6 months away from it and give myself sometime to make a clear decision on what I believe to be true.
Which it was pretty clear after I got away from the Indoctrination that pretty much everything I thought to be true wasn't and i reset my life.
It definitely made it easier for myself at the time of been in the fold to adopt this reasoning and made it easier on my friends and family letting me to my break from it.
Good luck to anyone who gives themselves the freedom to step away and make a sound choice.
I'm sure whatever you choice either way you'll be more sure of yourself.
I can see a shift in you after your road trip, I'm so excited to see all your content from it!
I would love to talk to my mom about this and see what she has to say.
If you left during the plandemic , welcome to your freedom 🎉😊 congratulations 🎊 👏 💐 🥳 ✨️
Go Bengals 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I stepped away for a “good” reason because I was so sick from Lyme I couldn’t attend and I streamed in (pre pandemic). But even then it broke my spiritual routine and I did slowly wake up
The watchtower needs to already be held accountable in the United States to the full extend of the law for all the sexual abuse against minors worldwide as the watchtower it is officially located in the United States
SOOOOO TRUE!!!
I’m so glad I’m no longer trapped … Busy doing nothing in fact I had a sweatshirt that said busy doing nothing haha😂
I took a break when I became so exhausted with keepig up with life and the demands of the wittnesses. I was soooooooo relieved and never went back. This was years ago and "A" still hasnt appeared.
You make a very good point. I hope my family sees the new broadcast and wheels start spinning in their minds. So pointless to shun someone if they can be welcomed back in with open arms during great tribulation when the whole world can see it is true. At that point will all those that are shunned want that relationship back with someone that have shown they can and would shun them for their entire life at the drop of a hat. That person in my opinion is “unsafe” to be in a relationship with.
How can the GB sleep at night knowing they are convincing people to waste their life and give money. I would be riddled with guilt, and I couldn't have to gutter morals to say it's ok because I'm living good.
They probably believe it too, at least some of them.
@@dantheexjw8839 but they have to look at 'the truth' to keep as much hidden as possible. Also the GB have to deal with all the top line financials. Why was tony a drunk for so long, Rolex watches, not putting in the pot themselves, backtracking on their own guidance. The top one though is that Jesus needs to guide them somehow, they don't even know how that happens.
They are luciferian freemasons. Satanists dont care.
If you’re only in the religion because you’re afraid of being destroyed your heart is not in it.
We’re human. That’s the truth: you tell people they’re going to live forever but only if they join WT or get destroyed and what do you expect? Those OUT don’t fear death like JWs do and don’t spread death messages to neighbors door-to-door! Logical.
Currently taking a year break from being a jw and it’s looking like I ain’t goin back
Great perspective Wally knowledge is Power
This is a reality check and you are probably aware of it ~~ The fact that there are plenty of well educated specialist teaching and explaining The Bible and Religion on RUclips and The Internet these days Without a motive or Agenda that it just puts the JW monopoly on what the Bible says in perspective a level playing field in which to get empowerment ~~Dont be fooled by character assassination thinking someone knows more than you ~we are all in a process of learning and as we learn more our opinion can change
Good point, Wally! I'm curious to know how the new 'just tick the box' policy and the new approach towards witnessing (informal, see the new brochure) will influence their spiritual routine...
Is WT shooting itself in the foot?
And yes..I faded during the pandemic😊
This is what happened to me when I was sick and just listened on phone to mtgs. (Great sleep aid then.) Then their house of cards collapsed!
Great job Wally!!
We all seem to know someone that went to a foreign language congregation or moved to a foreign country where they didn’t speak the language. They soon began to wake up because they were not hearing the constant threats and indoctrination
PS. It's good to be back and to hear your voice. I had to unplug for a bit to mourn the loss of my child. I didn't realize how much I missed listening to your videos.
Im so sorry for your loss
Yes I took a stand for the truth and left the JW colt.
Yes I put aside my ass too
'What, take a break? Three months, you say? With the end so near????'
The constant meetings and endless literature to read is constant conditioning. Being with a group of people trying to maintain this routine causes one to be socialized to it, thus making it "normal". Reading the Scriptures, understanding the history and the culture of the accounts, helps to form a better foundation for personal responsibility. "Cramped and narrow is the way," "I will judge you individually".
I would ask them whats the differece between jw and other religion.
The answer is the governing body, then let them proof that the gb has the right to control everybody.
They cant prove it, because the bible verses are just random
You're right. They can't prove it because it's not biblical. That's one reason why the wt is considered a "cult". It's heartbreaking because satan has sooo many of them warped that they really don't know the real Truth.
(John 14:6)
I have a very unique situation. My family has contact with me because I was never baptized but we do not talk about the org or religion. Any suggestions on how to get this seed started? I would like to get this going before part 2 is up on the site.
Personally, I would think that if you have a relationship with them and don’t have to talk about religion, like politics, I’d leave it be or you risk losing them. They are choosing the WT. I’d not stand in the way of their Rights yet I’d be un baptized and remain that way so that when they are disfellowshipped or have doubts, you can be there for them. If they pressure you into being baptized, I’d simply say that you choose to take your time in various studies and investigations. Period. That is YOUR Right. ❤
Wow Wally! You could really reach 20.000 subscribers before the end of the year 🥳 100 subscribers left
Appreciate the eye opening info
candy at meetings no, at convention yes 🤣 exactly same here in Europe... thank you for a great funny reminder of the absurdity 🤣
Enough is never enough for them
They're changing the timing of the final judgment to prepare for the great spinning of their declining numbers. "We don't need JW numbers to increase. We're just the message-bearers. People will see we're right in the end. Jehovah is a merciful judge."
True point Wally,why was candy ok at conventions but not meetings ?!?! LOL😂
Thanks Wally. A good one.
Glad to see you back ,healthy and in one piece 😊
My New Years resolution is to take a break. Actually, I had already stopped but come January I no longer reported that I was active.
Wally, why do you have that big knife standing in the bookshelf behind you?
Brings out what’s in the heart ❤️
Feel better, Walls!
Great video my friend
I meant to reach out about ur trip! Me and my friend are ex jws and wanted to meet up with you in charlotte. Ah well, too slow I guess 😂 anyways I 100% agree that that the pandemic hit them real hard. Being taken off the hamster wheel is a great eye opener for most people
I work in a female only gym and being Xmas talk has come around to the decorations etc - I mentioned I was in a cult it was then a staff member let me know that a few of the members are JW and they keep inviting her to the meetings etc. I had to let her know that for their sake not to mention I used to be one (even though I’m not DF to my knowledge I could still be viewed by them as a spiritual danger to them) they wouldn’t be allowed to talk to me and it would be really uncomfortable for them. Conversations will be interesting further down the track.
I shortly have to say, I still have dreams about not going to congregations and my mind is riot in my dreams. After 17 years my mind still works on that. Isn't that crazy? When I have to tell myself in my dreams "u don't need to worry, you are no jw anymore u don't need to go congration and u don't have to feel troubled about it". That's so messed up if you think about it. Anyone else? I feel pretty alone with that because I don't know anyone else that was a former jw so far. I had to go my journey alone, and I mean alone, completely alone. We'll, taught me what real love is in the end and what is manipulation.
If I left for three months, it would probably would be a relief except for the excessive phone calls coming from the Elders. I guess I'm going to have to get a second line and turn my main one off. lol
I wonder if Jeffrey Winder's part is going to be in the second part. I'm curious to see how much editing they will do when it comes to the "Not inspired" comment.
That was a cool spray, which is it? If you were away from the KH for more than a month, I suspect that the WT elders would be visiting you.
If JWs "take a break", the elders will begin to ask questions and think he/she is not spiritual enough which could lead to disfellowshipping and shunning. Read Lloyd Evans' book "The Reluctant Apostate"; in the book, he said that when he stopped going to meeting on a regular basis, the elders began to harass his wife as to why he was not coming to meetings and going out in service. Another thing that could happen is soft shunning, so that might not be the best way to approach waking someone up. Furthermore, it also does not work if the person's entire family/friends are in the cult because he/she will have no one to turn to which will leave the person in a permanent state of being PIMO.
The confusion that comes from falling man is now evident
I think we're making a big mistake in reading too much into what was said at the annual meeting. They never said you can willfully leave with the intention of coming back at the last minute and still be saved. If I recall correctly, they said "maybe ... we don't know" in the case of those that genuinely drifted away or genuinely got expelled because of falling into sin. They never intimated that you can willfully scheme to go back to the world with the intention of returning at the last hour and all will be fine. They're not even saying that this is absolutely the case in regard to those who drifted away or were expelled. They said 'we _don't_ know'. That gives them enough room to go back to the hardline position of making sure you're in the ark (the org.) at all times because again it's maybe, maybe not. 'We simply _don't_ know'! Tomorrow they can say:
"Well is it wise to slack off, or maybe even stop serving Jehovah altogether with the thought that you can always return when the Great Tribulation breaks out, and Jehovah will forgive you? Do not be deceived, God is not one to be mocked! Jehovah knows the difference between a genuinely lost sheep that drifted away, and one scheming and plotting to cheat him out of the devotion and service he is due. Never presume on Jehovah's mercy or abuse it for selfish gratification. It will not work!"
I like how this is the most balanced take in this whole commentary section. This really was about a warning against those who intentionally scheme and cheat their way to paradise by joining back at the last minute. The motivation of the individual is key. Plus, it is unfair to those who genuinely drifted away due to life circumstances and personal struggles.
lol. you can listen to these videos and still believe in the great tribulation? Your mind is as locked as a bank vault. And I feel so terribly sorry for you. Why don’t you look up how many times Jehovah’s Witnesses have changed their doctrine as to when the great tribulation is coming? The world was supposed to end like five times by now I think. They remove all the false “prophecies” aka bs meant to scare you so they can control you, and then make up new ones. And you believe it all. why? Why are you so afraid to think for yourself? you’re going to have to read in study. You are going to have to remember what critical thinking is and not be afraid of it. There is no evil in information.
No one is trying to scheme or cheat a god they don't believe in to get into a paradise that's made up. This is just about con men adjusting their false prophecies to buy themselves more time for fear mongering. It's got nothing to do with people who wake up from the lies of the cult. Nobody who wakes up wants to get back in. Silly
No one who actually believed in jeehoober would ever think that. Your comment is illogical.
Why would anyone think jehoober is due any devotion or service unless they were an actual slave of the Governing body?
Great video!
I couldn’t hold my horses! That idea of withdrawing a bit was back in the 70’s when you couldn’t even THINK of taking a break! Your relatives and door-to-door people HAD to be saved through a Study because there was no second chances back then! Now? I’d run and keep going and I’d LIVE and I’d celebrate Christmas!!!!
Interact with people outside jehovah's wtnesses and believers.
HA! You’re so cute! We WAIT...for that:...”...and have a good ass day!” LOL!!!!❤
so great!
Its true this is the best way to wake up from jw mindset. I stop going regularly a year before before covid. and it was because I really didn't like people from my hall and it gave me social anxiety and depression. So I made up excuses to not go and when covid happened and meetings were on zoom I was so happy and relieved. Because I no long had to make up lies or excuses of why I was not going to meeting. I felt guilty though so I tried zooming after a whole year and watch the covid updates and I just couldn't see it the same anymore. I had not gone in so long that when I did again it was so clear something was not right with Jw org.
Is "spiritual routine" a new jw catchphrase?
ETA a new question- I heard a couple years ago that there was new light along the lines of no one who isn't an active, baptized witness isn't going to make it through Armageddon. I might be wrong. But that was my understanding. Does this new light you're twlking about negate the previous one?
Hello Wally🌟💪💪🌟🌟feel better ASAP!👏👏‼️💯☯️
got out 28 years Ago will not accept any other religion and happy to just be me. I was an over the road trucker and visited many kh during my 45 years on the road al the same mind set in all congratgation
No religions at all for me. I couldn’t even sit in a church after WT without panicking. You being a long haul trucker, I think it’s kinda nice you had that habit. I’m not a JW anymore or ever would be again, but good for you! Nice habit. ❤
For some like me, this and my own curiosity and realization of the bible and the religion's injustices and erroneous beliefs helped me wake up (even listed as agnostic in my hospital records last visit!) But for some like my mom, who dont believe in the "imperfect men" and shoo away any negative talk cause she's seen god answer her prayers when no one was there to care for us when we was by ourselves (family either dead, cut off or belligerent, manipulative, and argumentive), doesnt care what is happening with others in the org as long as it isnt her, and would never let anyone take away her faith....yeah that is a super hard nut to crack even if she isnt as dutiful as the more zealous witnesses. (My dad's side and her are chill and don't shun and celebrate holidays and are nice. But their apathy toward the org and their reliance on god and the only family they have keep them there....i don't know really how to properly word it typing it out but my mom and my aunts are the best people and the worst witnesses (bad witnesses are good lol) but they especially my mom would never give it up and even said she doesnt care if god kills her cause she is good with herself and her choices and her life was better with god than without (sort of. But anyone can make better choices regardless of religion, but yeah). It really worries me cause i cant talk about it with her. We agree to disagree but do not discuss religion at all and it works most of the time, but times like this even if a brother or gb member said something, if i said anything to the contrary, even from the bible, she'd wave it away and leave the room. So how do you even begin to crack the hardest nuts like that? She is a good person, the best mom ever, but how can you begin to even try to talk when it is met with not listening and immediate dropping of the subject? Sorry if my rambling and typos are atrocious, i am not used to speaking out about this stuff even if ive been PIMO since 2018, but this video made me think i may have a chance to appeal to her, but knowing my track record....i am afraid to try again.
Great point! Take a break and give me a drink.
I agree it’s the most logical argument for helping JW’s wake up but I tried this on my family and a couple of people I felt it might help but if their walls are up there’s literally nothing that will spark them. They think they’re making room for Satan in their lives by using critical thinking. I wrote a letter to my sister with the words “if something is true it remains true under the most scrupulous investigation” she sobbed me into the elders and I ended up in a preliminary JC
Technically, it is encouraged in the JW organization to critically think for themselves what beliefs one holds. It's even encouraged in the Scriptures itself (Proverbs 2:11, 14:15).
A common mistake that tends to happen for a not fully intellectually mature JW individual when faced with information that could present doubt is that he might misalign the points of "developing thinking ability" and "safeguarding thinking ability" (Prov 3:21). Both of these types of critical-thinking decisions are like polar opposites in an axis. They can't be done at the same point in time. An individual has to choose when to "develop" or to "safeguard" what they already know. Thus, when faced with information that could bring doubt, an immature JW's tendencies is to give in to the fear of uncertainty, and that alone is a huge barrier that prevents him from thinking something critically.
One cannot focus being thoughtful and introspective while being gripped by feelings like fear, and this is simply not faith-strengthening to them, so it's easier to dismiss doubts by shoving it under the rug or throwing the responsibility onto someone else rather than making it their own. This is why a lot of JWs mistakenly conclude that critical-thinking is Satanic (contrary to the Scriptures they claim to live for) because it takes real skill to develop critical-thinking abilities, which not everyone on earth is naturally-able to do (some are feelers than thinkers for example). So, how much more the JW population?
Humility is what takes any heterodox to be wakened, and then the path leads to Orthodoxy.
That’s a good advice. 💯
A good spiritual routine - keeps the money rolling in!!
You can’t wake up someone who doesn’t want to be woken up. The governing body can tell them to cut one of their fingers off as part of their worship and they still pick up their bags to the next meeting 😩
Wait so at this point, no JW knows about the new changes? I’m just trying to figure out because my parents just had their assembly or annual meeting or whatever last weekend.
This organization ruined my entire life for their dogmatic beliefs back in the 80s to now just say that it doesn't matter anymore. And they are becoming more "mainstream" and televangelists. Hate is strong word, I feel rage and rath. My family stopped talking to me for almost a decade. I guess I wasn't done processing this "new light" cause that hurt when my brain finally processed what all this meant. Thanks Wally. Everyday is a good day to not be in a cult. Shout to A-aron and SP tv 📺 🙌🏼
I agree ,the annual meeting pt2 is gonna be a revelation on its own.was with a family member the other day and had a very close call, let's just say they've been on their "break" and they started going on about the annual meeting and all of this information just flooded out of them ,I was shocked that they knew so much .
So I had to steer the convo a different way so they didn't self sabotage 😅😬 but for me that was enough to show me how much of an effect this new schmite from the governing boobie has had on pimi's. I mean personally I always use the bible if a witness questions something I do ,it's a pretty good handbook to debating a jw. But this new info is gonna be hard not to talk about
Did I hear, I think it was Losch , or however his name is spelled, at approx. 12:50 refer to JONAH talking about the door to the Ark being closed 😂? At least Noah and his family got in…Whew, that was close 😂…
For me, I left the religion when I was 18, 26 years ago I still believe that the religion was the true religion. Ironically, my father kicked me out the house, because he was the presiding overseer, and he was having sex with some woman in the congregation, and I was the only one who knew about it he had to get rid of me to protect himself, which caused me to not care, and do whatever I want to be rebellious one would say.. the only reason I was able to wake up from the nonsense was when I dated this girl who was Muslim, but she wasn’t practicing and we would half our discussions about religion. So I wanted to prove to her. Her belief was wrong, and then that process I prove that what I believe was wrong, and the longer I was the way the more I became truthful to myself, but that wasn’t until almost 10 years after I left the organization before I started to truly wake up, I don’t see how a few months can help people wake up but if it does more power to them, I would hope everybody can get out of this religion, even though that’s impossible
Wait what? The annual meeting is in 2 parts? So my sons have not yet seen this part of the new light?? When is it coming for them?
January will be the release of part 2
Omg not alexa & google assistance too🤦🏾♀️...that routine thing is overkill man