The Day Before is a Scam - Inside Games
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2023
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[IGN] The Day Before - Announcement Trailer - www.ign.com/videos/the-day-be...
[IGN] The Day Before: Steam's Most Wishlisted Game Shifts to Unreal Engine 5, But Gets a Delay - www.ign.com/articles/the-day-...
[X, @FntasticHQ] / 1618113906878337024
[IGN] The Day Before Devs Say Delay Was Planned Before Trademark Dispute - www.ign.com/articles/the-day-...
[Rock Paper Shotgun] Devs behind Steam wishlist hit The Day Before defend use of unpaid volunteers - www.rockpapershotgun.com/devs...
[X, @FntasticHQ] / 1732822139001250096
[Steam Customer Reviews] store.steampowered.com/app/13...
[SteamDB] The Day Before - steamdb.info/app/1372880/charts/
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[X @SpeedL00ver] / 1732879754976510347
[X, @iRedseven] / 1732901558063382803
[IGN] The Day Before Early Access Review - www.ign.com/articles/the-day-...
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[X, @FntasticHQ] / 1734265789237338453
[X, @mytona_official] / 1734359076690362582
[IGN] The Day Before Studio Fntastic Announces Closure Just Days After Early Access Launch - www.ign.com/articles/the-day-...
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The funniest thing about them claiming they worked tirelessly on it is that people keep finding all of their assets in the store. Like, the whole map is available to buy for 300$.
And that asset was made in 2021 if im not wrong?
@@MortiXD09 Yep. An extremely large portion of the other assets were released *this year*.
@@IrisCorven no wonder they were forcing volunteers to cruch for 15 h a day. Fucxing ghouls.
the greatest game award was the friends we made along the way
Damn it didn't even make it a day after. 😂
Regarding TGA, I say is that now that E3 is done for good, there's zero excuse for Keighley to not divide things. Have an actual Winter Game Fest one day and have a proper awards ceremony the next day. The Main criticism this year was that TGA doesn't actually honors nor celebrates the developers and is just a 3 hours ad. Nobody has an issue sitting tru 3 hours of ads, that's demonstrated by the viewership of this show and SGF. You have the money, you have devs and publishers on board already, separate both things already. Keep the Reveals show as grandious as you want and scale back for the awards ceremony if money is an issue.
This please
The super HQ reveal trailer screamed scam. The second I saw it, I was like "This is not what you're gonna play when the game comes out. If it does." Then there was the PVP trailer against opponents that were clearly not other players.
Personally I thought the cynical takes regarding The Game Awards were hilarious and refreshing. I approach these kind of events with a similar attitude, it was a joy to watch along with the only gaming news show brave enough to tell it like it is.
This is the movie The Producer but it’s over a video game
Ah, been waiting for this from you guys.
Y'all always give a real world perspective on all these situations.
As a kid I wanted to grow up and get into E3 so badly. I knew it was an industry only thing but it was cool to see. Now, all the videogame events are all the different megacorps livestreaming. Just seems less magical now. It's awesome that i can watch the different events after the fact, of course, but it feels so... corporate for lack of a better term.
great takes on the game awards, when Lawrence made the pretentiousness comments during the hellblade 2 trailer he was spot on
The game awards is so tough, it definitely SHOULD just be an awards show that recognises the work that goes into the industry. But I know for a fact if it was I wouldn’t watch it because in reality I’m there to see an elden ring trailer and hideo kojima tell me nothing about a new thing he wants me to buy
Geoff Keighley actually knocked on my door to hand me the 'Most casual Gamer' award. I accepted and got back to playing my 5 hour single player game.
Greg Miller did a nice rant about how people complain about the awards and the treatment of developers, but he hosts the "The Dice Awards" and its all about developers giving developers love and no one tunes in to watch them.
After watching the last one for 2022 I must say shame on all you complainers we have been sliping the thing we want exist and we have been ignoring it for 26 years going by the last one was the 26th annual D.I.C.E Awards.
Weird I don’t think I’ve ever heard of them?
I am a grown man, I make my own opinions. I don't expect you to conform to my views.
I appreciate your candor and engagement with. Personally, you have taught me a lot through your editorials and various observations on gaming news. I hope you never feel attacked by us as your viewers and your audience. I greatly value the commitment you have to be yourselves. Thanks for the videos. 👍
It makes sense why these big companies pulled away from e3 but it definitely wasn't as good for the consumer. From a company's perspective why have a 3 day period dedicated to gaming when you can instead have a 3 day period dedicated to Sony or Microsoft or whoever. You don't have to worry about sharing time, or not being able to control aspects of the presentation, or even "losing" e3. It's just a shame that some of that magic has to go to suit corporate interests.
The Day Before felt like a scam from the beginning and moving on to more important thoughts.
It is sad to see E3 going away in the end, even tho we kind of spotted it from a mile away, but considering Xbox owns a theater right next to where E3 use to be and they now own 3 different companies worth of developers, I do wonder if they will make a move to make a sort of E3 event for just Xbox in their theater and the location where E3 was?
It would be kind of cool, each day representing a different publisher and showing of all kinds of stuff per day, but thats just all a dream thought honestly.
Keep doing what you're doing guys. People just like being mad that you're not living in their perceived reality.
I never noticed how much Charlotte looks a lot like Minch's girlfriend
That Rust letter is so perfectly in character for that game.
What's the clown math on how much the Game Awards must cost? Obviously that cost needs to be offset by advertisements and they are better in the form a trailer than a commercial, but maybe, JUST MAYBE, we don't need that long of an Allen Wake 2 musical number, so we can avoid coldly rattling off a list of people who won like we're speedrunning the show. When you're name is called, please accept your award at the end of the hall and exit the building.
I would say anthem was borderline rug pull. Put $80 in, couldnt even finish the base campaign, and then it basically was abandoned with nearly nothing put into it post-launch
I hope that journalists are able to get to the bottom of what happened with The Day Before. Just as you said, it seems like they “made” the game to make some money and then cut bait and run.
I can’t believe yall got Yaddle on the show
Lawrence and Bruce do not age how did they discover this fountain of youth
On E3 I think I will miss the gazillion of interviews the days of the show from different outlets, mostly because they felt more like developer interviews rather than showcases part of a media tour. I do wonder if game shows fading away as big companies pull out has any effect on smaller developers.
On the Game Awards it’s just a dated format but I agree with Bruce 100%. Even prestigious awards have those quirks. Like the Grammys are all about the live performances and big pop star acts (and most of the awards are not part of the show either) and the Oscars is kinda of the same and has the whole host thing indulging celebrity culture and cracking bad jokes for 2 hours (and if you look at like top 20 lists from movie outlets they are going to be way different than the nominees and even more confusing with release/distribution dates). And they also have issues like being the biggest awards in the world but at the same time almost exclusively a celebration of American media, something you can even argue the Game Awards handle better.
To add to what Charlotte was saying feels like a bigger issue of how games are covered year round (as a casual I mostly only hear about controversies) rather than a list of nominees at the end of the year
It couldn't have been a scam from the start, right?
I wish that there were two events: an end of year video game announcement show, and then a show exclusively for awards. No announcements, just complete recognition to the devs. Because an announcement event on 1 day is so much fun. E3 was as big a Christmas for me and my friends well into our 20’s, and we’d have multi day parties and grill, drink, play music, have games where we’d make bets on predictions, etc. I miss that a lot and I think many other people do too and if we’re being honest, not having an event like that anymore doesn’t make the industry a better place.
That's kind of the point, though. The game awards couldn't exist without the ads and promos. They pay for the show. Separate them and the awards vanish.
I've always only watched TGA to see the reveals, same reason I watch E3, Summer Games fest or anything else and with TGA there's just the added benefit of getting to see good games recognized and at the end of the day for me there are 13 new upcoming games I'm now looking forward to because I found out about them at the show and imo that's the only metric to determine if a game showcase was good or not.
The idea that any publicized awards show isn't extremely biased and nothing more than a circle jerk of critics is a weird take to see cuz i kind of assumed everyone knew that already and always takes it with a grain of salt.
The reiteration of "blood, sweat and tears" in every communication from Fntastic should have been a red flag
without E3 there are not going to be any more "embarrassing" moments, with no deadline of live shows we're not getting any more "Konami conference", "Giant Enemy Crab", "299$ PS1", "Xbox is a TV thing"
My guess is that IG is usually such a source of positivity, the display of an arguably negative perspective was confusing for some
Never preorder, never buy day 1, and never purchase microtransactions.
I would think that Steam has some mechanism that allows them to hold sales funds if a game is being refunded at such high rates. They likely need to pay those funds out soon after they receive them, but hopefully there is some contract language that would allow them not to pay out the publisher or developer in this case until people are given time to refund the product.
Is it just me, or does Charolette look like Yaddle?
Your personality is why you aren’t loved
The game awards are about family, and that's whats so powerful about it.
E3 was stupid in a fun way, The Game Awards/Summer Games Fest is stupid in a boring way.
Please don’t change a thing guys. Just do what you do
I'm only upset that we didn't get a post-show Denny's vlog.
You know human rights violations are probably at a lower rate than any other time
this was suppose to be a full release game. Fntastic was proud of this. and makes sense that their publisher was a mobile game publisher as this game was the level of mobile vomit-ware.
Is that a short scale bass guitar?
I read that a few days before, a dev or marketing person from Fnastic posted something like, please don't say we're a scam. What a scam!
I wonder why Gamescom (one of the surviving gaming conventions) is completely ignored in the part where they discuss E3 shutting down and then moving to the Games Award. Which is sadly more a big advertisement platform then a reward show if you ask me.
America was infested by 4 zombies, jesus even england would handle around 6. And those 2 ghouls are already moving to next studio.
Despite the disappointment that was TGA, I'm glad I got to see flute guy.
Nice to see some more information like delays and such ive only heard that it seemed a scam then became a scam
Studio closed and reopened on another name
Calling The Day Before a human rights violation is fucking hilarious lmao
i wonder how much money the game awards cost and how much of that comes from sponsors, those game reveals must pay probably a good chunk of the cost
I must have bought and played at least half a dozen zombie shooters, were people really dying to play this so soon on release, why?
Ed deleted his Twitter and abandoned his linkedin
Totally agree with your game awards sentiments and for the record thought y’all’s stream was hilarious
I hate when people throw around the "review bomb" description for everything... it's not a review bomb when it's the truth...
Also the "We apologize we didn't meet your expectations" is bs... those expectations were set by Fntastic...
Day Before is a scam yeah. Ok so about Game Awards:
I've been watching it since they officially started in 2014 and it was around the 2nd year I had realized what it was and have just accepted it. The Game Awards is ultimately a big commercial that gives some time (or in this year very very little lol) to developers the people who made these incredible games, and more time to what is the come in the future. And yeah, the reason I watch TGA IS FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENTS LIKE MANY OTHERS lol. People are complaining the same thing every year about this show and they don't realize it because their attention span is so shit.
I just gave up this idea of viewing an award show as some kind of prestigious event, that what wins here is the end all be all of entertainment.
This also might be a cynic in me, which I am really trying to move away from cause it's not been healthy for me, but I don't think a majority of the gaming audience or mainstream cares about game developers. As long as they get their game and they like it, then it's good regardless.
If you want to watch a show that actually celebrates the people who make the games, check out D.I.C.E. but I know for a fact a majority of you will tune out because it's just awards and the only people who care are potentially peers.
I've also seen this idea that Geoff Keighley is some kind of hack and doesn't actually care about devs, which makes me ask, if he was a hack why does he keep doing this every year? Why does he listen to feedback (he's acknowledged the devs being cut off too soon and it will be addressed) when he could just ignore it and just do the same thing again? Why does he reach out to indies and give them a spot on his show that attracts a lot of people along side the big announcements? I don't love the man but I don't get the seething hatred some people seem to have (which when I see it from journalists, I see that more as jealousy). He has areas where he is 100% worthy of criticisms absolutely, but some of the negativity I see around him just seems so personal, obsessive and gross idk. Also if you keep doing the dorito pope you're a terminally online dork that's stuck in 2012, move on bruh lol.
Apologies for the long winded, seemingly losing track comment, just had this in my head and just glad to let it out and never have to fully let this through. Love you guys always, might not always agree with points but it won't push me away.
Keep making awesome stuff!!!
Gamers are the hardest audience to please. They'll complain for a couple weeks at most then move on, it's the same thing every year. The game awards have gotten drastically better then they were in the past, Geoff improves it every year based on feedback.
guarantee next year there will not be cutoffs for the speeches and you'll see the Twitch chat go "SNORE CUT THEM OFF WRAP IT UP" @@EpicLatios
The game awards? You mean thirty seconds of awards followed by a ten minute full eye contact handjob for Kojima?
I do totally agree with the cynicism by the way, I don't care about the awards in the slightest, I just enjoyed your guys' takes on new game trailers. I was more just talking about my inability to predict Lawrence.
Sorry it read so negatively. ❤
Didn’t they also copy the trailer from Black ops Cold War? Like they just put their assets in the cutscenes and called it a day
I watched TGA. It deserved to be made fun of. The joke writing was pretty cringy. Maybe it was more about the delivery. I don't know. Overall ... It wasn't good. But I watched it all anyway. It was amazing. Happy to be here. Everyone did a great job. BG3 is most good game. Game play now. Need play more. Love play. The absolute will make TGA great again .... Help me.
Hopefully people will now learn not to blindly hype something based on just trailers with no substance
None of this would happen if gamers just became smart, informed consumers that wait until all the shill reviews end, start examining all the youtubers legitimate reviews and then make a decision on purchasing the game.
Modern day gamers: ZOMBIES!?!?!? LAST OF US!?!?!?!? CAWD!?!?!?!?!?!?!? CYBERBITCH!??!?!!?!?!? IM GOING TO PREORDER 76 COPIES!!!!!!!!!!
Lawrence and Bruce are so Brave!
Part of me is happy that this happened, because it might actually start making gamers think more about the games they buy.
i guess we don't have to worry about this game being lost media considering all the assets are from the unity shop lmfao
It looks like The Division, but with Zombies.
One guy quit after 90 minutes? So better than starfield then..
Is it really a bombshell when it's expected?
Usually in the game awards there is some really cringy thing that goes wrong. But everything went smoothly.
So honestly this is the best game awards of all time.
Remember when GTA 5 delayed its launch for several months shortly before its release in 2013, had to wait the whole summer after expecting to play. But, it then blew us away. Doubt this will happen with this POS.
I was honestly more concerned about Bruce’s armpits.
E3 became pointless once game Devs realised RUclips existed
Didn't like half of the units get returned? I don't know if it's fair to call The Day Before a rug pull.
The Game Awards was an absolute shit show this year (as it's always been). It's not the celebration of the industry that the industry deserves.
Dayz dunked twice
The dev's fondness of the phrase "blood, sweat and tears" was probably a red flag- likely a more literal use of the term given their staff being made up of unpaid workers
lol I clicked on this video and an ad came up first. This is RUclips, I’m not premium.. I get it, that’s fine… but the ad was for skull and bones and I’ve never laughed so hard. See you in April or march or whenever that game will not actually launch😂😂😂
I feel like I should clarify I wasn't shocked by Lawrence's cynicism about the game awards, I was shocked at his cynicism of the games. Both the nominees and the reveals. I don't give a shit about the institution, I care about the games and devs that made them
Amazing video
There will be some people out there who I'd imagine would buy the game just to have a little slice of history... I could image Lawrence doing that to be honest 😂
wait who what game is this
They need to put project z on ps5 n series
It’s only a scam if they keep your money. I think they legitimately wanted to make a good game…. Yeah
When I saw all the nominees for Game of the Year were sequels or remakes I just lost all interest. Art is dead and we killed it. And they're not even bad games.
Air Quotes MMOs are superior to the standard ole boring MMOs. More drama
Drunk or not, you guys were right!
Free Labor, you get what you paid for *The Day Before* you regurgitated out this rushed asset flip Heist/Scam!.. 😂
Nice
Come on take the money and run! just like Steve Miller band wanted
Scammed like a mofo, it was the pron pardoy I downloaded 😅😢
Crash Team Rumble when?
The Oscars.
Wtf do you mean "seem" like a scam?
It was so fucking obvious that every gameplay they have shown was fake, it was too scripted and graphics were too good for a game that was supposed to come years later.
Also they kept pushing release days as you mention, and barred anyone from reviewing/trying and made everything imaginable possible to make people skeptical.
Oof. That scam lol
Do we owe TGA anything? No, and I think defending TGA or hating TGA, both ends of th spectrum, is cringe.
But, we lose nothing (our time if we so choose) in TGA existing.
If an individual hates it, move on. If not? Its just a show, enjoy it, no need for drama.
2 russians make a scam game? wowo what a surprise
Lawrence, you're one of the most beautiful men to ever exist
E3 has been dead since 2011 for me it died along side prey 2. Bethesda has much to answer for.
glad I didn't buy this rubbish. after the first delisting I was like "nah bruh, i'm good!"
Hell yeah it's Charlotte!
But DayZ sucks too lmao
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