It's interesting how Emma describes the relationship between P.L Travers and Walt Disney because on the poster for the film Travers's shadow is Mary Poppins and Disney's is Bert and this is interesting because Mary and Bert had a similar relationship to what Emma describes as Disney and Travers's
@@alking7655 I just watched this movie last night and it IS rather ironic to me, that while the relationship between Pamela Travers and Walt Disney was so prickly and untrusting (at least on her side)....she DOES form a very sweet attachment to Mickey Mouse. First the Mickey Mouse doll that she finds in her bedroom....whom she first puts in a corner, (but notice, he's the ONLY one she doesn't cram in the closet, out of sight), then she's hugging Mickey on the bed, as if taking comfort from him, and then, when she finally signs the rights over, Mickey is sitting there across from her at the table (so she brought him all the way home to England with her). And even at the premiere, she is totally alone in this crowd of people after her driver drops her off, and nobody is paying attention to her.....except for Mickey. Mickey takes her hand and escorts her in to see the movie. He makes sure she's not alone on this very emotional night. I thought that was rather special.
Well, he was said to be sexist, as per usual for the time but during the process of creating Mary Poppins after acquiring the rights he essentially cut Travers completely out of the creative process and hence why the movie is the way it is. There was negatives for both people
Sexist by what standard, I wonder. As far as Travers being cut out of the creative process upon acquiring the rights is concerned, after learning more about P.L. Travers, I wouldn't have blamed him.
Well he was known to refuse women to work in his company as animators and such but that is pretty standard for the time. Neither of them where perfect but they both did have their strengths just Walt Disney got the better of the deal. Travers was the way she was about Mary Poppins because she didn't want it turned into exactly what it was turned into.
Well he was a very patient man and also because he saw that there was a potential story. It was a great story and I'm guessing that Disney felt that in order for him to make his children's dreams come true was to keep working on convincing P.L Travers to let him make the film.
Thanks Emma Thompson for talking about "the natural response between man and woman", because there ARE such a thing. In today's world of transgender and gender affiliations going haywire, this thing needs to be adressed, else people forget about it.
@@fandomcomic this is rather sad. The way the world is changing is rather sad. We are witnessing the down fall of democracy, society and life as we know it. You are right by 2050 the world will not care about the pl Travers of this world or the history surrounding her life, colonisation of the Pacific and Australia, world war 1 and 2. Its all rather quite sad
Almost our entire social circle reads constantly. In fact almost all professionals I have interacted with that are successful ....read nonstop, it supports personal growth, widening of culture understanding, generalized knowledge of the world etc etc I do admit those of poverty tiers in society read less, but that has always been the case. Its a generalization but one that typically bears truth, those that succeed read!
It was a wonderful film until it ended... A little research showed that nearly everything in it is a complete lie. She never got along with Disney, never even worked closely together with him. Both of them disagreed but Disney already secured the rights and didn't care. Upon the release she hated the film and vowed never to work with Disney again. I was shocked to find that out that Disney has disrespected this woman's life yet again. It's like filming the Titanic but making the ending happy because why not? The whole point the movie makes - give up your work/learn to work together with others - is completely pointless - that never happened in real life and Disney is still a lying sugarcoating corporation.
To say everything in the movie is a complete lie is a bit of an overstatement, although it obviously didn't tell the true story of Travers' and Disney's relationship. But I never expected it to be a true story anyway, so I was able to simply enjoy it. I guess I see Disney as a movie studio that makes "happy ending" movies mostly aimed at children, and you see Disney as some sort of evil, deceitful corporation. To each his own I suppose.
When the West End and Broadway production of the stage musical of the film were underway, P.L Travers said that they were able to make the musical adaption as long as the writers weren't Americans.
markbundles2 I don't know if it's accurate, but I heard she said she didn't really care who did it as long as it wasn't the Sherman brothers. Which would be pretty mean if true.
There's a fantastic documentary with Victoria Coren talking about P.L Travers and the making of the film. And at the end of the documentary, Victoria Coren has just watched Saving Mr Banks and she says something like "They (Hollywood) have done it again!" They didn't include the bad things. But Victoria Coren is crying a bit after the movie because it was such a tearful ending, and she says something how while she knows Saving Mr Banks left a lot out and included scenes that wouldnt have happened, she was still really moved by the movie. You should watch the documentary, it's on youtube.
She was an awful woman by all accounts. Wish she could have been like jk Rowling really. Disney was a nice guy. She didn't want things to work his way. The movie is also aimed at children. I'm glad it ended on a lighter note. If they showed the truth everyone would be saying she was a bitch. The music and story was beautiful.
The attendance figures suggest lots (lots and lots) of people disagree with you. But you are, of course, correct, and they are misguided. (Has to be, in your view of things.)
They gave it a happy ending. But that's kinda the point. P.L. Travers (not the real one but the character in the movie) got to have the happy ending that she wanted in real life.
What on earth was the interviewer thinking?
Is there any romance between Travers and Disney?
Seriously?
Scarlet Nightingale Eros.
Why not?
Scarlet Nightingale I swear to damn god-Ugh I hate people. Why can’t two individuals just be friends??? Why does there always have to be a romance???
EXACTLY Why would they have romance? Walt was married. Happily married.
I think she liked Ralph the limousine driver better than Walt Disney.
He was there to show that she had a valid position.
Lmao glad she ignores the dumb question and comes from a point of better understanding what PL travers would have actually felt.
It's interesting how Emma describes the relationship between P.L Travers and Walt Disney because on the poster for the film Travers's shadow is Mary Poppins and Disney's is Bert and this is interesting because Mary and Bert had a similar relationship to what Emma describes as Disney and Travers's
no Mary was nice to Bert Pamela was way resistant to Walt LOL
Um... Disney’s shadow is Mickey Mouse!
@@alking7655 I just watched this movie last night and it IS rather ironic to me, that while the relationship between Pamela Travers and Walt Disney was so prickly and untrusting (at least on her side)....she DOES form a very sweet attachment to Mickey Mouse. First the Mickey Mouse doll that she finds in her bedroom....whom she first puts in a corner, (but notice, he's the ONLY one she doesn't cram in the closet, out of sight), then she's hugging Mickey on the bed, as if taking comfort from him, and then, when she finally signs the rights over, Mickey is sitting there across from her at the table (so she brought him all the way home to England with her). And even at the premiere, she is totally alone in this crowd of people after her driver drops her off, and nobody is paying attention to her.....except for Mickey. Mickey takes her hand and escorts her in to see the movie. He makes sure she's not alone on this very emotional night. I thought that was rather special.
@@CeltycSparrow omg i just saw the movie again after years and I never thought of that. That's soo clever
"Is there any romance there?" WTF?
PL Travers got off LIGHTLY in this movie. To have portrayed her honestly would have been seen as libel by almost everyone.
So did Walt Disney though...
How so?
Well, he was said to be sexist, as per usual for the time but during the process of creating Mary Poppins after acquiring the rights he essentially cut Travers completely out of the creative process and hence why the movie is the way it is. There was negatives for both people
Sexist by what standard, I wonder. As far as Travers being cut out of the creative process upon acquiring the rights is concerned, after learning more about P.L. Travers, I wouldn't have blamed him.
Well he was known to refuse women to work in his company as animators and such but that is pretty standard for the time.
Neither of them where perfect but they both did have their strengths just Walt Disney got the better of the deal.
Travers was the way she was about Mary Poppins because she didn't want it turned into exactly what it was turned into.
I adore you Emma!!! ❤❤❤
That's probably because you are a liberal lunatic. You are the reason I voted conservatives in the UK election.
@@Victory987 Wow. You are easily troubled.
I wonder if Walt was just low key waiting till she died but 20 years was too long
Well he was a very patient man and also because he saw that there was a potential story. It was a great story and I'm guessing that Disney felt that in order for him to make his children's dreams come true was to keep working on convincing P.L Travers to let him make the film.
She died in 1996 or 97 so she outlived Disney by over 30 years.
The man was kinda on his own death bed when he pushed it. 1961 was 5 years before he died of Lung Cancer.
Very interesting point of view. Thanks for the upload
Apparently she hated the film. She would have far preferred the Broadway version.
"it makes your eyes bleed"
The fact is, PL Travers would never have been satisfied with ANY movie version of her books.
You can't work with walt and ask him to not put in a animation
did she hate or like the movie?
Blueberry40 hated. Refused to allow them to make a sequel or use her intellectual property in any way while she lived.
She thought it was a "good film on its own level" but completely unlike her books
I think Thompson meant she wouldn't have liked Saving Mr Banks, which, of course, Travers never saw. She died in 1996.
She said it was the best thing she has ever done
Thanks Emma Thompson for talking about "the natural response between man and woman", because there ARE such a thing. In today's world of transgender and gender affiliations going haywire, this thing needs to be adressed, else people forget about it.
eros means desire in Greek it is one of there four words for love
They don't just equal "love" though, they have specific meanings.
@@oskarkuelz2706 I Know, I speak/ am learning Greek
she was a one hit wonder.. nobody even knew her name till this movie..if Mary Poppins had not been made, nobody would have missed it
puppy love you are kidding
The series of books was super popular
@@ashleighcartwright5186 in this century i dont think kids would have read it and would have been forgotten by the 2050 or something my opinion though
@@fandomcomic this is rather sad. The way the world is changing is rather sad. We are witnessing the down fall of democracy, society and life as we know it.
You are right by 2050 the world will not care about the pl Travers of this world or the history surrounding her life, colonisation of the Pacific and Australia, world war 1 and 2.
Its all rather quite sad
@@ashleighcartwright5186 definitely and i dont really think people will read classics maybe in schools but other than that
Almost our entire social circle reads constantly. In fact almost all professionals I have interacted with that are successful ....read nonstop, it supports personal growth, widening of culture understanding, generalized knowledge of the world etc etc I do admit those of poverty tiers in society read less, but that has always been the case. Its a generalization but one that typically bears truth, those that succeed read!
It was a wonderful film until it ended... A little research showed that nearly everything in it is a complete lie. She never got along with Disney, never even worked closely together with him. Both of them disagreed but Disney already secured the rights and didn't care. Upon the release she hated the film and vowed never to work with Disney again.
I was shocked to find that out that Disney has disrespected this woman's life yet again. It's like filming the Titanic but making the ending happy because why not?
The whole point the movie makes - give up your work/learn to work together with others - is completely pointless - that never happened in real life and Disney is still a lying sugarcoating corporation.
To say everything in the movie is a complete lie is a bit of an overstatement, although it obviously didn't tell the true story of Travers' and Disney's relationship. But I never expected it to be a true story anyway, so I was able to simply enjoy it. I guess I see Disney as a movie studio that makes "happy ending" movies mostly aimed at children, and you see Disney as some sort of evil, deceitful corporation. To each his own I suppose.
When the West End and Broadway production of the stage musical of the film were underway, P.L Travers said that they were able to make the musical adaption as long as the writers weren't Americans.
markbundles2
I don't know if it's accurate, but I heard she said she didn't really care who did it as long as it wasn't the Sherman brothers. Which would be pretty mean if true.
There's a fantastic documentary with Victoria Coren talking about P.L Travers and the making of the film. And at the end of the documentary, Victoria Coren has just watched Saving Mr Banks and she says something like "They (Hollywood) have done it again!" They didn't include the bad things. But Victoria Coren is crying a bit after the movie because it was such a tearful ending, and she says something how while she knows Saving Mr Banks left a lot out and included scenes that wouldnt have happened, she was still really moved by the movie. You should watch the documentary, it's on youtube.
She was an awful woman by all accounts. Wish she could have been like jk Rowling really. Disney was a nice guy. She didn't want things to work his way.
The movie is also aimed at children. I'm glad it ended on a lighter note. If they showed the truth everyone would be saying she was a bitch. The music and story was beautiful.
Bullsh!t. The movie was disneyfied just like the the abomination of Disney's Star wars. Shame full.
The attendance figures suggest lots (lots and lots) of people disagree with you. But you are, of course, correct, and they are misguided. (Has to be, in your view of things.)
They gave it a happy ending. But that's kinda the point. P.L. Travers (not the real one but the character in the movie) got to have the happy ending that she wanted in real life.
Emma Thompson trying to sound more intelligent than she is lol