It is hard to believe that rifle will shoot sub MOA with that many different types, weights of bullets. I am pretty sure the operator of the trigger has a lot to do with it. Great job again !!!
With the 1:8 twist, I would think that it likes heavier stuff, but it's nice to see that it stabilizes the light stuff too. Thanks for following up with this one.
@@bennyfisher4415 That was probably one of the factors tthat led them to the twist rate. All of the research and development that has been done on 5.56/223 over the years has yielded mountains of data about barrel length and twist rate and load development. It seems that whatever the platform, 1:8 is kind of the goldilocks. With the ability to stabilize rounds from light to heavy.
I'm not sure what's more impressive: 0.29" out of the CorBon's, or 0.84" out of Wolf ammo. ;-). BTW, if you want a nice equivalent to the CorBon's, get some of the AAC 5.56 from Palmetto State with either the 75 or 77 grain bullets. At about 65 cpr, it's the best-kept secret on the market. :-)
Thank you for the follow-up information. We've all been interested. Compared to that very first video with the bulk Remington ammo, it's pleasing to find the rifle is actually a "shooter" and it's equally understandable why so many people condemned Remington bulk ammo in that very first video. I'm also pleased to learn that the theory of 1 to 8 twist being most accurate with the "heavy for caliber" ammo is also accurate. Generally, I'm not "ammo sensitive," but you can be sure that I'm going to look twice at bulk Remington stuff. I'm starting to think that their "seconds" are the bulk packaged stuff, and the boxed stuff is what meets spec. The last ammo I truly loved above all others was Remington Bronze Point ammo. Haven't made it for years now, but that stuff was "match lighting accurate" in my rifle back then.
My Howa 1500 in 223 really likes the 55gn loads. I developed a load using 21.6gn N133 and Sierra Blitzking 55gn bullets. grouping .25". 1:9twist. tried 69gn and it didn't like it. Might go 70gn+ and see what its like. Nightmare finding anything otehr than 53gn or 55gn around here. All the best from Ireland☘
I thought the 77 grain bullets were going to be good for you and I’m glad you tested some. The Sierra 77 grain will give you some good hand loads and that will be your deer catching bullet!
Outstanding groups from 50gr to 77gr. Sig Sauer, Norma, Fiocchi, & Remington all load 77gr HPBT in .223 Rem. The Sig is my flavor of choice. Thank you for the follow up on the Gen II Ranch rifle.
The sig is really really lightly loaded I wouldn't hunt with it. Whotee if you don't have some Black Hills mk262 I'll donate for some its the bees knees
@@jayblemsin4226 Great point on hunting with Sig. Here in WA state hunting deer with the .223/5.56 is prohibited. The Sig works well on small varmints.
That old tsab;e by your barn needs a new plank or two 😀 That little rifle is accurate with just about anything.... those 77 grainers are "bench rest" accurate... wow.... 🙂
I'm glad you didn't give up on this one....I had a nice FDE scope and bipod that needed a home...I choose this gun...feel better about my purchase now...Thanks for the testing.
Love your work. Thanks for showing us everything. If you haven't heard it yet, you should really listen to the hornady podcast on bullet dispersion episode 50 and 52. "Your groups are too small". Basically the chamber, barrel, cartridge, powder and bullet all have manufacturing tolerances that stack to give variation in impact location. To get a good understanding of what a system will do, a shooter should put 20+ rounds on target to gut an accurate measurement of the dispersion of that rifle / ammo combo. Expensive and laborious but, juice that is worth the squeeze.
I have a mdl 70 Winchester in 7mm that I bought in 1965. It will put the first three shots in a small clover leaf at 100 yards. I can put 150,165, and 175 grain pretty much in the same hole!
Thanks for that. Bought same gun. Getting same results. Filled in the matrix with 5 minute plumbers epoxy putty in the firearm. Then 1/2” drum sanded even and dishing down in the puttied areas. Strengthened that firearm even more with minimal weight added. Then relieved the magazine release exposing it completely. Contoured and blended that in. Then Flat OD Green spray painted it. Put Smith Enterprises Vortex Gemtech bi lock flash hider on it with the Gemtech G5. Quiet soft shooter. Lightweight short. Portable. Accurate.
I think we all tend to be perfectionists and wanna put one hole through another. But the reality is, that’s a hell of a nice shooting rifle. Pretty much sub MOA with anything you fed it.
Making the Ruger 5.56 look sweet with that shooting. Makes me want to get a BCA 223 Wylde upper for my AR. Right now I got 7.62x39 and 6.5 Grendel, both shoot great. The Grendel is my sub moa deer hunter. The 7.62 is a fun running plinker. 223 ammo is so cheap and available everywhere though. Grendel ammo is absurdly high and hardly extant except online or when Academy gets some Eld match back in stock from time to time. Been saving my brass though. Thanks for the thorough testing you do.
The American Ranch models are my favorite. I have them in several configurations. I am glad that you’re getting really good group side of these, I am headed pretty good luck with my GEN. One versions as well.
I thought the others were amazing until the Cor-bons came up , now , I'm thinking the others are pathetic , comparatively . I would like to see different 77g rounds shot to distinguish whether it's the manufacture of ammo or just the grain size of bullets .
I have one AR that is 1:7" twist and has a 20" barrel and it seems to prefer heavier stuff. A local place (AE Ammo) has the Black Hills stuff that seems consistently pretty good for relatively cheap. 77 Gr Sierra Match King at about $68/50 though it used to be a bit cheaper and the 77 Gr Open Tip Match currently at $65/50 rounds. I bought several boxes of that at $40.
Great to see the gen 2 shooting those great groups. Love my gen 1, but sure wish I could lock the bolt when walking in and out of woods like you can on the gen 2.
Hornady Frontier 5.56 68gr BTHP shoots .3 and .4” groups consistently out of my Ruger MPR 18” barrel. I Typically handload for all my rifles, but don’t bother with 5.56 and 223 if I can find inexpensive factory ammo that shoots 1/2” or better. Only problem is it’s back ordered across the country from what I can see from all major vendors.
love to see DRT represented. Wonderful people up there in Albany MO, Beautiful game preserve too. I had no doubt you'd figure this one out. This is coming from a Ruger fan boy. I have a 1-8 in my ar556 it is a tack driver, but the pill has to be hot to stay in my node.
I just bought one in 5.56. Zeroing at 25 yards at indoor range with a cheap red dot. I was consistently hitting half inch groups resting on unstable bench and using crap freedom munitions 55gr 5.56. Thing shoots amazingly. Gonna eventually dedicate better optics to it.
So I was calling out the 77’s as the ones that would group the best based on the twist rate and how this rifle has been trending. I was surprised when you called out the 50’s as a top prospect. In the end it did very well but I thought there would be too much twist for it. What made you call out the 77’s AND the 50’s? Such a swing from heaviest to lightest. Is it due to some previous experience you have with those particular 50’s? No matter the reason- good calls and good shooting!
I visited the Cor-Bon facility in Sturgis in 98 courtesy the customer care of Dakota sales executive Paulette Kok whilst collecting a 330 Dakota in a model 76 from the late Don Allen. Cor-Bon provided 200 custom loaded 250g A frame together with 100 unprimed cases. The ammunition proved to be extremely accurate in that rifle here in Scotland on Red Deer and several African safaris on both plains and dangerous game, sadly that rifle died somehow in the care of Air France. I then went on to order another, which has unfortunately never been fired, having gone to U.K. proof but unused since 2006 as now 80 and only fond memories remain.
I'm surprised by those groups, and the last groups you did. But just wondering why you only went with a 3×9 scope, normally you get ones with tons of zoomies.
@@WHOTEEWHO I know, i keep track :-b Just think, when you're all done with YT, you'll be able to start another business. Cheers Brother, thanks for just being you.
For the 1:8 barrel twist, you might try the sabre 62gr black tip ammo. My 1:8 ar15 shoots consistent sub 1” groups with it, and it is extremely affordable.
Consistent shooting there. Statistically, a group of 3 (at 0.5 moa or less) does not mean the case is snugly and consistently sitting well in the chamber, or the bullet is just tightly gripped by the neck, or backed off to start engraving the lands nice and concentrically. At 5 shots, however, you're scratching the surface, and at 7 you're sniffing the ammonia! Not one of the manufacturers cartridges you fired was a fail IMO. Needs more testing for that 'great fit' tho. My Tikka T3 shoots wee holes with PPU Match 120grain in 6.5 Swedish. Fluked it! Can't handload any better myself. Keep up the good work, WTW, the American is a very good gun for the price.
Great video and great shooting. What do you think is making the difference between the first video where you were frustrated with the groups and the last 2 videos? Is it a break in period? Seems to like almost anything now - under 1 MOA.
NatchezSS has all the 77 gr factory ammo you want to order. I bench tested 8 different factory 77 gr selections. Remington Premier 77 gr. HPBTwas the best of all of it. However the Nosler 77 gr HPBT was a close second. Any of the rounds that used the Sierra Match King HPBT 77 gr bullet grouped well, but the Remington Premier also had by far the highest muzzle velocity.
My Gen 1 Ranch shoots about 0.5" group if i do my part with Hornady Superformance 53gr vmax. Wish they had this design when i got mine, so many good improvements on the gen 2. Love your videos sir.
@@DaveL9170the ruger website says 30-06 will be released first quarter of this year. We’ll see if that happens or not. Only a few weeks left in the quarter.
It’s a light stock, you feel all the round, like running a hellcat pistol. A good brake would help, or stock upgrade. The RAR seems to shine with lower recoiling cartridges, the stock only weighs about 11/2 lbs.
Been thinking about replacing my gen one with the gen two. Still can't decide if I want to get the 6.5 Creedmoor or 308 or just stick to 5.56. Thanks for the video!
I have a 6.5, American also having grouping probs going to bed it .also got ranch in 350 very accurate but action rough.also got precision in 6.5 with atn digital day night scope hella bad ass.
The Wolf 55gr & the Remington 50gr are the ONLY two examples I've ever seen, of that entire lot. Can't believe you didn't grab any Hornady (40gr Vmax).
I’ve mentioned it previously it helps grouping capabilities if you have your bipod legs slightly loaded as they’re moving around on the bench smooth surface. If you were in a field situation by comparison the feet would probably gain some purchase on the ground surface and not slide around like is happening when you fire hence the shot shot reproducibility is compromised
Heavy, I am finding in my 223 bolt gun it's about speed vs rifling, which every caliber. I would bet those 77 are running 2750 or so, I reckon if you could slow them all down to that they would shoot the same inside 200 yards, just a guess. It might make for a neat experiment
If that Core Bon isn't made any more I hope you can find there load data somewhere and can duplicate it now that you are going to start reloading unless it's really old then good luck finding the same components. How is it you were able to hire a model to show off those knit blaze orange hats ??? Have to say she dose make the hats look even better
I went to Scheels and Cabelas and bought 1 box of each. Took 2 stores to find everything in 6.5 PRC to see what my savage liked the best. Some of the ammo was terrible and 3 were close. The best was Hornady 6.5 PRC 147 gr ELD Match.
This exact rifle delivered yesterday, now on the BS CA 10 day waiting clock (I know). Not familiar with optics at all, and certainly won't break my budget given a $550 rifle I'll likely reach out at 200 yards max. Any suggestions what works and is affordable on this rifle? Thanks!
I have tons of 6.8 ammo I bought. Got rid if my 6.8 xpr. Would not group, period. The brownings are more expensive than I am willing to pay to test the 6.8 again
@@WHOTEEWHO I've heard good things about the 6.8 Western, but with the caveat being the rifles were expensive. IE: Browning X-bolts & Winchester M70s. My Great-Aunt wants one, but for our area she's already taken everything we're able with her beloved 257 Roberts. (Even a 400lb black bear - but only because it was charging towards her and she thought she was gonna die. I'm thankful it didn't also give her a heart attack. Tough woman. Lol)
The group with the 77gr Corbon is the same size of groups I'm getting with AAC 5.56 75gr Sabre Blade Black Tip ammo. 5 shot groups at half moa or better consistently.
I'm still wondering why it didn't group well to begin with, but it still does better with the heavier bullets. It's not terrible with 55 grain bullets but it definitely likes the heavier bullets. Which is actually a good thing for catching white tails. I think that if you can find more 77 grain cor bon bullets might be a good choice or some of those 75 grain bullets
Looks like you got it figured out. For the future ,My Ruger MPR LOVES Sig 5.56 77gr. I’m guessing the 5.56 chamber prefers the slightly different dimensions of 5.56 vs .223. Don’t mistake for the Sig .223 77gr. They make both.
Also, I bought a PSA 10.5 inch AR, and it shoots about 2 inch groups at 100 yards with 55 grain ball. But with 69,70,75,77 grain it shoots clover leafs at 100. It seemed to like the Hornady Match 75 grain the best. But the best ammo is stuff that is readily available to you! So 55 grain cheap ball ammo is what I’ll shoot! Lol
Would like to see grouping done at 500 yards. I would bet 5 ounces of silver coins or bars , the 60, 62, 68, 69 & 70 grain bullets would do way better than the 45, 50, 52, 53 & 55 grain bullets Any takers ???.
I have the American Ranch and I have found the 75gr BTHP Frontier ammo by Hornady works better than 55gr or 68gr Frontier. But that said they all group fine at 50 yards. Really like you content guess that why I'm a subscriber.
Does your Savage have the accu trigger,if so it can be adjusted; if it doesn't have the accu trigger,contact Savage & see if you can change your current trigger over to the Savage accu trigger.
have you ever checked the ammos length to ogive.. (measure oal with bullet comparator) just wondering if you are getting best accuracy with close to lands or quite the jump to the lands.. i built custom deer rifles for the grandkids & tested factory ammo to find most accurate to pair with it.. (since they don't seem to be interested in reloading).. i love shooting small groups myself! great video! (you still need a scope level ;>))
Since the Corbon 77 grain worked well, would like to see you get some aac 77 grain from palmetto state armory and see if their 77 grain works just as good.
Probably wear a set of tires out trying to find a box of those corbons haha, but either way definitely some good results from a variety of factory ammo with your rifle. Interested to know what the COAL on those corbons are if you have the time to check seeing as they're that heavy and feed from the pmag.
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It is hard to believe that rifle will shoot sub MOA with that many different types, weights of bullets. I am pretty sure the operator of the trigger has a lot to do with it. Great job again !!!
And a 3X9 scope isn’t exactly a high powered scope…he can definitely shoot.
You're such an underrated shooter. Awesome to see a reviewer who you never have to worry about flinches or pulls!
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Yeah dude can shoot...
Who cares about ratings.
It's like solving a complex puzzle, tweaking your grip, stance, and maybe even ammo types until you find that sweet spot
With the 1:8 twist, I would think that it likes heavier stuff, but it's nice to see that it stabilizes the light stuff too. Thanks for following up with this one.
And the shorter barrel.
@@bennyfisher4415 That was probably one of the factors tthat led them to the twist rate. All of the research and development that has been done on 5.56/223 over the years has yielded mountains of data about barrel length and twist rate and load development. It seems that whatever the platform, 1:8 is kind of the goldilocks. With the ability to stabilize rounds from light to heavy.
Those Wolf done much better than I thought they would..
I'd like to see you try your group's with the shusher can and then without the can to see how your groups are
I always think that too on these videos
Same, esp for us that don't have the cans
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Yes
Yes. A good idea.
I'm not sure what's more impressive: 0.29" out of the CorBon's, or 0.84" out of Wolf ammo. ;-). BTW, if you want a nice equivalent to the CorBon's, get some of the AAC 5.56 from Palmetto State with either the 75 or 77 grain bullets. At about 65 cpr, it's the best-kept secret on the market. :-)
If someone told me they could get Wolf to shoot sub-MOA I would have had to stifle a laugh, even a 3-shot group.
+1 on this the AAC bullets run great out of the 1/8 & 1/9 twist.
I'd love to see how that thing shoots the hunting ammo out there. Like some barnes, federal fusions, Hornady vamx, etc...
77 grain core bond is hunting ammo. Would be great on deer.
Thank you for the follow-up information. We've all been interested. Compared to that very first video with the bulk Remington ammo, it's pleasing to find the rifle is actually a "shooter" and it's equally understandable why so many people condemned Remington bulk ammo in that very first video. I'm also pleased to learn that the theory of 1 to 8 twist being most accurate with the "heavy for caliber" ammo is also accurate.
Generally, I'm not "ammo sensitive," but you can be sure that I'm going to look twice at bulk Remington stuff. I'm starting to think that their "seconds" are the bulk packaged stuff, and the boxed stuff is what meets spec. The last ammo I truly loved above all others was Remington Bronze Point ammo. Haven't made it for years now, but that stuff was "match lighting accurate" in my rifle back then.
Remington Bronze points! The "original" ballistic tip. Very under rated IME.
My Howa 1500 in 223 really likes the 55gn loads. I developed a load using 21.6gn N133 and Sierra Blitzking 55gn bullets. grouping .25". 1:9twist. tried 69gn and it didn't like it. Might go 70gn+ and see what its like. Nightmare finding anything otehr than 53gn or 55gn around here. All the best from Ireland☘
I thought the 77 grain bullets were going to be good for you and I’m glad you tested some. The Sierra 77 grain will give you some good hand loads and that will be your deer catching bullet!
Outstanding groups from 50gr to 77gr. Sig Sauer, Norma, Fiocchi, & Remington all load 77gr HPBT in .223 Rem. The Sig is my flavor of choice. Thank you for the follow up on the Gen II Ranch rifle.
The sig is really really lightly loaded I wouldn't hunt with it. Whotee if you don't have some Black Hills mk262 I'll donate for some its the bees knees
@@jayblemsin4226 Great point on hunting with Sig. Here in WA state hunting deer with the .223/5.56 is prohibited. The Sig works well on small varmints.
Awesome. I like that rifle more and more every time I see it. Fun to watch how different rifles shoot with different ammo.
That old tsab;e by your barn needs a new plank or two 😀
That little rifle is accurate with just about anything.... those 77 grainers are "bench rest" accurate... wow.... 🙂
I'm glad you didn't give up on this one....I had a nice FDE scope and bipod that needed a home...I choose this gun...feel better about my purchase now...Thanks for the testing.
How do you like it so far ? Im picking mine up in a few days in 7.62
Awesome thank you for part two , need to do a hunting video with it now !!
Love your work. Thanks for showing us everything. If you haven't heard it yet, you should really listen to the hornady podcast on bullet dispersion episode 50 and 52. "Your groups are too small". Basically the chamber, barrel, cartridge, powder and bullet all have manufacturing tolerances that stack to give variation in impact location. To get a good understanding of what a system will do, a shooter should put 20+ rounds on target to gut an accurate measurement of the dispersion of that rifle / ammo combo. Expensive and laborious but, juice that is worth the squeeze.
Very Nice 🤩 Another Great Video Adam 💯Thanks for Sharing 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I have a mdl 70 Winchester in 7mm that I bought in 1965. It will put the first three shots in a small clover leaf at 100 yards. I can put 150,165, and 175 grain pretty much in the same hole!
That's a rifle you never want to part with!
They are all within minute of whitetail, have fun bro, cheers Yogi 🤙✌️
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Great video! I've been wondering if I should get a Ruger American. This really helped me make up my mind!
Thanks for that.
Bought same gun.
Getting same results.
Filled in the matrix with 5 minute plumbers epoxy putty in the firearm. Then 1/2” drum sanded even and dishing down in the puttied areas. Strengthened that firearm even more with minimal weight added.
Then relieved the magazine release exposing it completely. Contoured and blended that in. Then Flat OD Green spray painted it.
Put Smith Enterprises Vortex Gemtech bi lock flash hider on it with the Gemtech G5.
Quiet soft shooter. Lightweight short. Portable. Accurate.
Mighty fine flinging sir !
Thanks for watching
I think we all tend to be perfectionists and wanna put one hole through another. But the reality is, that’s a hell of a nice shooting rifle. Pretty much sub MOA with anything you fed it.
Making the Ruger 5.56 look sweet with that shooting. Makes me want to get a BCA 223 Wylde upper for my AR. Right now I got 7.62x39 and 6.5 Grendel, both shoot great. The Grendel is my sub moa deer hunter. The 7.62 is a fun running plinker. 223 ammo is so cheap and available everywhere though. Grendel ammo is absurdly high and hardly extant except online or when Academy gets some Eld match back in stock from time to time. Been saving my brass though. Thanks for the thorough testing you do.
The American Ranch models are my favorite. I have them in several configurations. I am glad that you’re getting really good group side of these, I am headed pretty good luck with my GEN. One versions as well.
The CorBons settled that argument.
Absolutely
CorBons are pretty dag gone amazing, no matter the caliber.
In this group of ammo absolutely. But there's still a few more other brands left to be tested though.
I thought the others were amazing until the Cor-bons came up , now , I'm thinking the others are pathetic , comparatively . I would like to see different 77g rounds shot to distinguish whether it's the manufacture of ammo or just the grain size of bullets .
So much for first impressions. Now I got an itch that needs scratching. Gun show this weekend. Who Tee Who!
That 1:8 twist is a fast bullet release I use 62 grain in a 1:10 twist. 22 inch barrel
I have one AR that is 1:7" twist and has a 20" barrel and it seems to prefer heavier stuff. A local place (AE Ammo) has the Black Hills stuff that seems consistently pretty good for relatively cheap. 77 Gr Sierra Match King at about $68/50 though it used to be a bit cheaper and the 77 Gr Open Tip Match currently at $65/50 rounds. I bought several boxes of that at $40.
I've been waiting to buy until this is figured out! Great video brother!!!💯
Thanks for watching
Great to see the gen 2 shooting those great groups. Love my gen 1, but sure wish I could lock the bolt when walking in and out of woods like you can on the gen 2.
Well i am glad you came back with this. Save that remington UMC fmj for plinking.
I guessed the cor bon would do the best and it did.Good to see you found what ammo's the rifle likes.
Watching from the Uk! Always enjoy your content, try to watch every episode. Keep it coming!
Appreciate you watching
I'm curious if the barrel needed break in. I wonder how the first boxes would do now. I have had that happen more than once.
Hornady Frontier 5.56 68gr BTHP shoots .3 and .4” groups consistently out of my Ruger MPR 18” barrel. I Typically handload for all my rifles, but don’t bother with 5.56 and 223 if I can find inexpensive factory ammo that shoots 1/2” or better. Only problem is it’s back ordered across the country from what I can see from all major vendors.
love to see DRT represented. Wonderful people up there in Albany MO, Beautiful game preserve too. I had no doubt you'd figure this one out. This is coming from a Ruger fan boy. I have a 1-8 in my ar556 it is a tack driver, but the pill has to be hot to stay in my node.
Hopefully you can find some of the Sierra 77 MatchKings to try. I bet they will do well like the Corbon ones did in this video.
I just bought one in 5.56. Zeroing at 25 yards at indoor range with a cheap red dot. I was consistently hitting half inch groups resting on unstable bench and using crap freedom munitions 55gr 5.56. Thing shoots amazingly. Gonna eventually dedicate better optics to it.
So I was calling out the 77’s as the ones that would group the best based on the twist rate and how this rifle has been trending. I was surprised when you called out the 50’s as a top prospect. In the end it did very well but I thought there would be too much twist for it. What made you call out the 77’s AND the 50’s? Such a swing from heaviest to lightest. Is it due to some previous experience you have with those particular 50’s?
No matter the reason- good calls and good shooting!
Corbon is hard to find great stuff great video thanks
I visited the Cor-Bon facility in Sturgis in 98 courtesy the customer care of Dakota sales executive Paulette Kok whilst collecting a 330 Dakota in a model 76 from the late Don Allen. Cor-Bon provided 200 custom loaded 250g A frame together with 100 unprimed cases. The ammunition proved to be extremely accurate in that rifle here in Scotland on Red Deer and several African safaris on both plains and dangerous game, sadly that rifle died somehow in the care of Air France. I then went on to order another, which has unfortunately never been fired, having gone to U.K. proof but unused since 2006 as now 80 and only fond memories remain.
That rifle seems to be grouping very consistent.
I’d also try some 62gr federal fusion too? That’s federals deer load and I’ve had good results with stuff in all of my rifles.
considering all were under one inch, perhaps applying a price point per gain in accuracy analysis would be beneficial. Cheers and another good video.
I'm surprised by those groups, and the last groups you did. But just wondering why you only went with a 3×9 scope, normally you get ones with tons of zoomies.
This Dood is out here finding deals that have better MOA than CMP's Custom Shop😂
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Spending a ton of $$$ testing ammo, a lot of practice, and sometimes some luck :)
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I know, i keep track :-b
Just think, when you're all done with YT, you'll be able to start another business.
Cheers Brother, thanks for just being you.
Great stuff! 👍🏻 😊
That Corbon 223 77gr Performance Match HPBT is still on their website.
👍😊 it likes plinking and the good stuff.
Awesome Groups Brother.
For the 1:8 barrel twist, you might try the sabre 62gr black tip ammo. My 1:8 ar15 shoots consistent sub 1” groups with it, and it is extremely affordable.
It's a PITB when the best shooting ammo is the hardest to find.
Consistent shooting there. Statistically, a group of 3 (at 0.5 moa or less) does not mean the case is snugly and consistently sitting well in the chamber, or the bullet is just tightly gripped by the neck, or backed off to start engraving the lands nice and concentrically. At 5 shots, however, you're scratching the surface, and at 7 you're sniffing the ammonia! Not one of the manufacturers cartridges you fired was a fail IMO. Needs more testing for that 'great fit' tho. My Tikka T3 shoots wee holes with PPU Match 120grain in 6.5 Swedish. Fluked it! Can't handload any better myself. Keep up the good work, WTW, the American is a very good gun for the price.
Was it cleaning the barrel that tightened the groups, or just ammo change?
Great video and great shooting. What do you think is making the difference between the first video where you were frustrated with the groups and the last 2 videos? Is it a break in period? Seems to like almost anything now - under 1 MOA.
Hard to say. I need to retry. Maybe the ammo, maybe I was just having a bad day
NatchezSS has all the 77 gr factory ammo you want to order. I bench tested 8 different factory 77 gr selections. Remington Premier 77 gr. HPBTwas the best of all of it. However the Nosler 77 gr HPBT was a close second. Any of the rounds that used the Sierra Match King HPBT 77 gr bullet grouped well, but the Remington Premier also had by far the highest muzzle velocity.
My Gen 1 Ranch shoots about 0.5" group if i do my part with Hornady Superformance 53gr vmax. Wish they had this design when i got mine, so many good improvements on the gen 2. Love your videos sir.
I think you can still get sierra 77 grain bullets for reloading
Fiocchi offers a 69gr & 77gr match king as well as a 40gr V-max load. Couple other flavors for your testing.
That one looks awesome definitely want one in 30-06
Wait about three months. It’ll be here in .30-06.
@@DaveL9170the ruger website says 30-06 will be released first quarter of this year. We’ll see if that happens or not. Only a few weeks left in the quarter.
It’s a light stock, you feel all the round, like running a hellcat pistol. A good brake would help, or stock upgrade. The RAR seems to shine with lower recoiling cartridges, the stock only weighs about 11/2 lbs.
Great video man thanks for cracking the code!!! Lol I have the same rifle and was wondering what it would like best. Thanks again Brotherman.
Bang bang yeet yeet!
Been thinking about replacing my gen one with the gen two. Still can't decide if I want to get the 6.5 Creedmoor or 308 or just stick to 5.56. Thanks for the video!
I have a 6.5, American also having grouping probs going to bed it .also got ranch in 350 very accurate but action rough.also got precision in 6.5 with atn digital day night scope hella bad ass.
The Wolf 55gr & the Remington 50gr are the ONLY two examples I've ever seen, of that entire lot. Can't believe you didn't grab any Hornady (40gr Vmax).
Nicely done. 👍
My 1:8 twist likes the Sierra 77gr SMK competition factory stuff.
I got the same results . 69 gran match king was my best .30 at hundo fifty rounds. Thanks for sharing. Have great day. God bless you and the family.
Thanks for watching
I’ve mentioned it previously it helps grouping capabilities if you have your bipod legs slightly loaded as they’re moving around on the bench smooth surface. If you were in a field situation by comparison the feet would probably gain some purchase on the ground surface and not slide around like is happening when you fire hence the shot shot reproducibility is compromised
Corbon still manufacture the 77gr ammo, but it is expensive.
Thanks for posting these tests.
Thanks for watching
Heavy, I am finding in my 223 bolt gun it's about speed vs rifling, which every caliber. I would bet those 77 are running 2750 or so, I reckon if you could slow them all down to that they would shoot the same inside 200 yards, just a guess. It might make for a neat experiment
Very impressive results!
If that Core Bon isn't made any more I hope you can find there load data somewhere and can duplicate it now that you are going to start reloading unless it's really old then good luck finding the same components.
How is it you were able to hire a model to show off those knit blaze orange hats ???
Have to say she dose make the hats look even better
I went to Scheels and Cabelas and bought 1 box of each. Took 2 stores to find everything in 6.5 PRC to see what my savage liked the best. Some of the ammo was terrible and 3 were close. The best was Hornady 6.5 PRC 147 gr ELD Match.
Grate testing and groups thanks pretty cool 😎 👌 👍 🇺🇸
Did ya crack the code buddy?😂 I love your videos Whooti keep up the good work 🇺🇸✌🏽
The rifle appears to be a winner!
This exact rifle delivered yesterday, now on the BS CA 10 day waiting clock (I know). Not familiar with optics at all, and certainly won't break my budget given a $550 rifle I'll likely reach out at 200 yards max. Any suggestions what works and is affordable on this rifle? Thanks!
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Good job dude it definitely likes those cor bond
Great vid Adam, as always. Now I would like you to buy a lotto ticket. While you’re at it, revisit the 6.8 western.
I have tons of 6.8 ammo I bought. Got rid if my 6.8 xpr. Would not group, period. The brownings are more expensive than I am willing to pay to test the 6.8 again
@@WHOTEEWHO I've heard good things about the 6.8 Western, but with the caveat being the rifles were expensive. IE: Browning X-bolts & Winchester M70s. My Great-Aunt wants one, but for our area she's already taken everything we're able with her beloved 257 Roberts. (Even a 400lb black bear - but only because it was charging towards her and she thought she was gonna die. I'm thankful it didn't also give her a heart attack. Tough woman. Lol)
She's a picky eater, but I think you've narrowed down the factory bullet field. Thanks for the video.
No arguments here! Exceptional!
That cor-bon was excellent!
Hey gunman!
The group with the 77gr Corbon is the same size of groups I'm getting with AAC 5.56 75gr Sabre Blade Black Tip ammo. 5 shot groups at half moa or better consistently.
I'm still wondering why it didn't group well to begin with, but it still does better with the heavier bullets. It's not terrible with 55 grain bullets but it definitely likes the heavier bullets. Which is actually a good thing for catching white tails. I think that if you can find more 77 grain cor bon bullets might be a good choice or some of those 75 grain bullets
Looks like you got it figured out. For the future ,My Ruger MPR LOVES Sig 5.56 77gr. I’m guessing the 5.56 chamber prefers the slightly different dimensions of 5.56 vs .223. Don’t mistake for the Sig .223 77gr. They make both.
Also, I bought a PSA 10.5 inch AR, and it shoots about 2 inch groups at 100 yards with 55 grain ball. But with 69,70,75,77 grain it shoots clover leafs at 100. It seemed to like the Hornady Match 75 grain the best. But the best ammo is stuff that is readily available to you! So 55 grain cheap ball ammo is what I’ll shoot! Lol
Would like to see grouping done at 500 yards.
I would bet 5 ounces of silver coins or bars , the 60, 62, 68, 69 & 70 grain bullets would do way better than the 45, 50, 52, 53 & 55 grain bullets
Any takers ???.
Some nice groups. 🙂🙂
Hey dragonrider
That will work! You saved it !
Fort Scott tui makes a 40 grain bullet that I've found works amazing in some rifles. It is very well made ammunition
I have the American Ranch and I have found the 75gr BTHP Frontier ammo by Hornady works better than 55gr or 68gr Frontier. But that said they all group fine at 50 yards. Really like you content guess that why I'm a subscriber.
I have a friend’s Savage 12 in 223. It has a severe trigger slap issue. Never seen that on a bolt gun. Suggestions?
Is the trigger adjustable? If not, buy a new trigger.
Does your Savage have the accu trigger,if so it can be adjusted; if it doesn't have the accu trigger,contact Savage & see if you can change your current trigger over to the Savage accu trigger.
Thanks guys!
Awesome my friend What are your thoughts on the 243 savage Four a 10-year-old Young lady hunter.
I'd think that would be a good choice
Look up rocky mountain reloading sometimes you can get some decent components there. The kind that are lead.
have you ever checked the ammos length to ogive.. (measure oal with bullet comparator) just wondering if you are getting best accuracy with close to lands or quite the jump to the lands.. i built custom deer rifles for the grandkids & tested factory ammo to find most accurate to pair with it.. (since they don't seem to be interested in reloading).. i love shooting small groups myself! great video! (you still need a scope level ;>))
I have not measured
I wish they'd offer the Ranch in 243 or 6mm Creedmoor, or 7mm-08. I ended up ordering one in 6.5 Creedmoor for a new whitetail/ground blind gun.
Since the Corbon 77 grain worked well, would like to see you get some aac 77 grain from palmetto state armory and see if their 77 grain works just as good.
you need to get a go fund me page to replace them boards on that table.. lol all love. thanks for all the great test video.
Probably wear a set of tires out trying to find a box of those corbons haha, but either way definitely some good results from a variety of factory ammo with your rifle. Interested to know what the COAL on those corbons are if you have the time to check seeing as they're that heavy and feed from the pmag.
You have now got it pretty dialed.