There's no innovation, there's no progression in the game, there's zero attempt at retaining players, there's no reactive/timely balancing, there's thousands of cheaters and teamers, mtx is overblown. Removing once permanent game modes and supplementing them for subpar modes. No new weapons either. The last weapon we got was in season 16. SIXTEEN.
Dude I’m currently mid d3 on Xbox solo it’s pure agony laggers, 6 man occasionally less than last season for sure still a problem, but them recoil modders are out of hand and the amount of times I’ve been totally pre fired makes me think they got walls in here some how some way idk for sure but I’m connvined hackers got a emulator these days at least for walls
I pushed to diamond one in arenas. Now I can't play the game mode anymore. And now I dont care if they bring back. My interest in this game is just dead.
@@Chino817x its straight facts, look at fortnite, i have never seen anyone complain about fortnite being dry, only bad thing i hear is the balancing which every competitive game will have
I just hated coming home after a 10 hr shift and being forced to fight 3 stacking preds and masters in 95% of my matches. I have a 1.0 k/d, why am I constantly fighting the top 0.1% of the player base? I’d rather just start a new game of Skyrim for the thousandth time
I have the same problem. As a plat player, I have to fight Masters, Preds, and of course hundreds of Smurfs and it happens every game. Also, I rarely have teammates who can play this game.
The majority of preds and masters are cheaters. I don't mind getting destroyed by someone who is genuinely better, but the majority are using aim bot/esp etc. The masters and pred population should be much lower if it was organic but it's not which is why we see so many in lower lobbies
Apex is one of those games where skill gap plays a huge fucking role so new/average players find it pretty hard to compete in it as is. Then they decide to make it even harder with their stupid SBMM system and it feels unrewarding as fuck so no wonder everyone quits.
Okay I swear my comments about wanting apex to end so the resources can go to something better and so the titanfall franchise can rest in piece keep getting deleted
@@Dcraft_TNTif your comment is too short/simple and you instantly click off the comment section it tends to be deleted (to fight against bots i guess). I get around this by liking my own comment and staying on the thread for a few seconds.
I personally left Apex because it was getting hard to have a normal casual experience. Every game felt like we were playing some tournament with money on the line or someone / team had such impossibly great aim that it all just became exhausting. These are things i would criticize games like Warzone about but, with its multitude of issues, that actually feels better to play than Apex.
Well I can't think of any current popular shooters where people aren't overly sweaty. That's just how this generation of gamers are. No one wants to play PVP shooters to be casual anymore.
@@falloutglasster7807 Fortnite. I can literally login to that game and have a chill time. If i want a sweaty experience i can just play ranked. Also like i said Warzone isn't that bad TBH. I've won multiple games by myself and i started playing it again a month ago lol
People have to stop just blaming EA. Yes EA is greedy we know that BUT if respawn had this game all to themselves they would be making the same monetization changes
ok, so let me get this straight: They killed Titanfall 2, but then tried to make Titanfall 3 and killed the project to make Apex legends, and now they are killing Apex. So they just wanna lose all of the people who love titanfall universe?
@@buff_ah_lowsometimes I just do solo Frontier Defence or bounty hunt runs in a private lobby. Yeah, sounds lonely af, but it's actually surprisingly fun and challenging.
i just feel like EA is milking it before tossing it aside. EA has a very, very long repeated history of doing this: prop up a big shiny new game for a few years, milk as much out of it as possible, throw it away and make a new big shiny game. it feels like that's the road apex is going down sadly - which is insane because apex is actually a genuinely well made game and could easily last for another 5+ years if actual care and innovation was put into it.
Idk if im being dramatic but this genuinely feels like watching your pet die or some shit for me LOL. i feel like i should play this game for its last waking days to make a few more memories before this shit gets lit on fire and dumped. Real talk though this sucks and makes me sad because i have so much history with apex, it was the only game i played for my teen years. I have almost 10k hours. i stopped grinding/sweating it like 2 years ago. ill play a few hours every couple of months apart now
Alot of us got sick of the shitty match making like I go work for 9 hours come home and get absolutely slammed by 3 toddlers who haven't got off since the day started and are max rank
Didn’t this game come out like 10 years ago? This shit amazing it’s still alive. It’s not a mmo, it’s just a styled shooter. Like so what is this game isn’t as popular as it was before. League not as popular but we don’t say it’s dead. Idk this nonsense should stop.
See, I loved apex a lot and used to play it almost religiously with some friends but when season 22 came out, I just kinda stopped because it became so bad that now I rarely if ever play it. It's just in a horrid state. Id love to play it for hours and hours a day again but I just can't with how bad it's gotten. RIP one of my favorite games.
I was the same way. I used to play it for 3 a day, on the weekends I'd play it for at least 15 hours, now I just play one or two games and just get annoyed and play something else.
@@DankBirdGang52 Bro literally the same thing here. I used to grind almost every day atleast 3 hours in seasons 9 and 10 and then i was falling off but still active until season 15. And the i dont remeber. The only season i was more active was revenant reborn that was sick. Now i do 1 or 2 games and i feel bored. I miss prime apex
5:45 if you actually read the announcement you can see they never said they fixed it. in fact they never even said they figured out how it happened. all they said is they're going to improve security, well we see from the state of the game how well those improvements have worked.
Exactly. It was. A Acanned PR statement. Nothing changed, and security *got worse* as the % of cheaters skyrocketed from 20% of master+ account banned to well over 40% over the next 2 seasons. In the reddit post, it's literally in purple.
Every game is either getting stomped by players 10x better than me, or stomping players who are 10x worse than me. There is very few games where Its a long and hard fought battle. Either you're better than the lobby, or you're worse. I miss the days of hard fought end games.
The trouble with corpos is they always learn the wrong lesson. They think a declining player count means declining interest, therefore no more market. When in reality, the market wants to play the game. The people who left still WANT to play the game, but the corpos are too stupid to realize putting the game in a better state increases the interest and the market.
It's because they think the things in the store are the problem, not the actual game. Corporate only cares about how much money the game makes, if no one buys skins, they think people aren't interested. They have absolutely ZERO involvement in the game, they just look at the sales numbers and make their judgements there. Video games are dead, and capitalism killed them just like everything else in modern society.
No trouble is people keep supporting companies like EA who are blatantly known for inserting as much greedy practices as possible, milking a franchise dry before tossing them aside for the next game to do the same. it boggle my mind how many players fund EA's unethical and down right criminal behavior, dont learn a single thing and just repeat the process. and its even worse when game devs sign up with them not doing their homework
@@soldier22881 This isn't EA. Respawn said almost four years ago already that they have unrestricted creative and financial control over the game. They decide everything, price tags on every cosmetic and such included.
As a sims 4 player the worst thing respawn ever did was allow EA to basically take over. Sims 4 has been out for 10 years just for it to still be mediocre and expensive
i still cant believe i saw people defending the decision to sell respawn to EA when it happened. it was like listening to a bunch of loons trying to convince everyone the sky was green.
@@Spitsonyou fr I’ve learned to download all the expansions thru anadius. I got annoyed when I couldn’t do cross progression from my Xbox to my pc. I wasn’t going to pay for the packs all over.
@@SpitsonyouImo apex died when respawn developed a huge asian female fetish. 4 asian female and 2 asian female back to back. There was completely no reason why alter couldn't have been a guy. Crypto the only asian guy is the worst of all. They want to pair a bunch of asian females with bunch of white guys like every other hero shooters flooded with asian women to sell $ for incel losers. The other racial group are just there to feel inclusive. Go woke and go broke
I was finally setting up to buy the game properly this year and eventually all the dlc's too. But after getting only the base game my internet was down some hours and I couldn't play the game, because login issues. I just deleted everything after that; sims was my goto offline game and they killed it with the ea play system. I'm not even feeling to jack sparrow it.
The biggest reason is, it isnt fun anymore for normal adults who work 40+ hours a week, being put in lobbys that feel like ranked when I just wanna relax aftet a long week. Games for pros now, not for normal peeps.
Game Dev's take note: You cannot have functional problem with the game like rampant cheating AND THEN only give updates to shopping. It shows you're greedy and don't care about player enjoyment, just profit. It's a turn off. Seriously, you can only do these douchey prices hikes and gambling scams if your game is in a position of excess goodwill, which Apex WAS NOT when you did these scams.
100% I'm the person who made the original reddit post. They had a cheating problem, ignored it and spiked prices. Then when the players began to decline, they panicked and started nerfing roller as the average player thinks AA is to blame. The AA neef in s22 was literally a lazy hail Mary, and it *failed*
The funniest part about why EA just doesn't care what majority of players say it's because people are still buying things from the events, especially RUclipsrs. RUclipsrs buy every single event because they can make content out of this and get their money back, so EA is like, "We got payed, so we don't need to change anything". If we want EA to actually start caring about Apex we need to stop buying battlepasses and events for real money (if you have enough apex coins or crafting metals already it's not bad to buy, because they won't make money out of this) because if they stop making milions or bilions from reselling pretty much the same skins but with different colours for this much, maybe they'll start to care. Do you remember when SaveTitanfall was a thing? They fixed it fast, so if we want them to do something, we need to take matter into our own hands
Why do yall just copy paste this everytime? This is not middle school these theories won't work simply because they are not feasible. They have never worked and never will.
Agreed. Me and my friends have stopped paying anything for events and skins since season 18 and we're hoping a lot of people would do the same. In context of RUclipsrs, I think we just need 1 youtuber to do the same and the masses might follow
Apex is like Among us for me. I start to think "damn i want to play apex" and play a whole straight 1 - 2 weeks then get bored and a month or 2 later i get right back into that mood.
Came back for season 22, and the roller nerf wasn’t even noticeable because every other player was a totally legit predator beaming me across the map 100-0 in one re45 clip. At the time I was playing later in the night and by the time I got a few games in the servers were so dead that it couldn’t even match me with enough players for a ranked lobby and there was maybe 3 total lobbies going on in my SBMM bracket because it would take anywhere from 5-15 minutes to find a pub lobby as well. The steam charts just don’t truly show how absolutely awful the experience is for anyone that isn’t playing at 3pm on a Friday, especially if they aren’t below average skill level wise. Half the people still playing are cheaters, and the other half are their alt accounts.
Season 0 player here and i play it still Every day because i love thé movement but even for me is it sweaty . Every pub lobby is full with preds and in ranked i got thé worst randoms but still have to fight preds .
This is why i just stopped playing. Im not a great player, im okay. But every game i was always dying basically to the first squad i ran into which always seemed to be a 3 stack of coordinated masters+ players, who would run me down like i was a noob. Meanwhile since i dont have a 3 stack 99% of all my games it felt like I would get either players significantly worse than me, or flat out brand new players who legit dont understand how to heal yet. I queue up with a bud whos basically as good as me, but we aint good enough to consistently take on the 3 stacks. And it just got so frustrating to play a game where i spend 99% of the time looting only to deliver the loot to the first squad we ran into. This would be the case for like a solid 10-20 matches before sbmm decided to chill and we start to get into lobbies that felt way more fair. God forbid we win a match, the sbmm instantly shoots us back into the dumb lobbies. This game just aint for me anymore, and i have a feeling many others feel the same.
Heh, I tried the new event and there was a 110k horizon and a 64k as the champ squad. Land and get killed by preds over and over that weren't even the champs.
@@TheHollowBladebig issue yea, honestly i don't even mind having 3 stacks as enemies, since it's likely friends having fun together but atleast let me play against 3 stacks that are at my skill and give me mates at my skill
@@Melloweeen agreed 100%, masters and preds should not be punished for playing together, but like you said. Dont put them against me and give me timmy no thumbs who just installed the game and ignored the tutorial and expect me to somehow 1v3 players who are flat out better than me in most cases.
i think weapon and legend meta has alot of impact on the decline too. its one thing to have bugs, release new items or legends over powered, its another forcing the player base to deal with bugs or boring metas for months until they drop a new season to make any meaningful change. respawn neeeds to steer the game away from metas that are unhealth for the game.
Tbh the isssues you stated probably had a good impact on why ppl left apex. However just based on everyone i know who play and played all have the same issue and its the sbmm. Either my friends quit bc of how sweaty it gets with no fun to be had if you dont constantly have a 3 stack in pubs no less. While just bc you got 3kills last match and 876dmg now you have to carry 1 or 2 new ish players against a lobby of diamond- pred trails which most are stacking. Its not a fun game anymore apex isnt a sit down and have a casual fun session unless you just love losing 85% of your gun fights bc little no name 95k kills with their 2 other friends with 50k kills on their legends are sweating in pubs. Having to sweat 24/7 is not enjoyable tbh. So yes its the sbmm for many and im sure a lot of ppl feel the same.
This is partially why removing duos in S21 was a big issue and why a lot of people play ranked. Ranked doesn't have SBMM (though if queue times get long it will loosen up the pool you can queue into). SBMM needs to die. It ruins games. Sometimes I want an easy lobby and if I want to sweat I should be playing ranked, not the other way around.
I rotate through games constantly and Apex has slowly been pushe dout of my rotation. Mind you, I put 700hrs since the day the game launched so I'm not experiencing most seasons. My biggest issue is the speed games end. If I play casual then game end in like 15 minutes and I see maybe 2-3 squads. If I play ranked then people are too afraid to fight and I have to wait until the final few rings to really play the game. I really enjoyed having mixtape, but did not like having to wait for the mode I wanted or weapons I want to use because I really enjoy the gunplay in Apex. If they ever brought back that 3v3 mode, I'd probably play more, but right now I can just play any other game in my library.
I do miss enjoying Apex, even as I’ve started getting my Apex FPS fill from The Finals At this point, all I see about Apex is it’s blunders, and the main times I think about Apex are when The Finals does something similar to Apex but better I’d love to come back to Apex, but its just not for me anymore sadly :(
all of you guys are so annoying with blaming ea thinking your making good talking points its not eas fault the game is like this and that hurts to say cause i hate ea but respawn is mostly to blame for it and respawn is also the reason why TF2 failed because they insisted on having the game release between two big gaming titles(cod and battlefield iirc)
In season 20, there was an update that reset everyone's account to a year back and removed all ranked badges. Then, the very next update reset accounts to level 1. This basically let everybody know that nothing they own is permanent.
Knowing live service games don't last forever and will one day go offline should have been enough. This was definitely a reality check for some people.
They did revert the stats lol. I lost almost 2.5k rp and would’ve deranked to master. They reverted it a week and 2 days after I got reset early. First split didn’t even count s20 btw just people didn’t read the patch notes and understand the semantics where it only took split 2 rank.
I started day one and was constantly ranked up in Pred. I gave up like 3 years ago. Tired of losing my mind with frustrating mechanics and mindless Wraith mains blaming the team.
I think the profit goals play the biggest part in Apex’s position. Making the game better costs money, but their way of making money is making the game worse, which makes people leave and lose out on more money. I miss the hype for new seasons. The trailers, the game modes, the new legends, the side quests/lore.
13:03 while live service does make up the majority of EA's revenue, their cash cows are Madden and FIFA. That 73% includes the mirco transactions they use for those 2 games with things like 'ultimate team' etc. Apex still makes them some decent coin but it pales in comparison to Madden and FIFA. I do agree though, that eventually EA could look to spin off Apex or even Respawn and try to sell it.
One step in the right direction would be is make apex 2 where they take a note from overwatch and let you transfer all your skins to the new apex 2 servers along with having the better server for the game to run appropriately. 2. Hire a ton of people or seriously do something about cheaters so that will stop 3. Stop listening to the pros as much and listen to the community more thats where there money is at and will help them get more if you feed their needs 4. Have weekly updates and stuff so issues can be nipped in the ass
yea this could be better. maybe some shit like "Apex Legends : ReBoRn!" idc, ill Fw it. this isnt easy, but they should keep apex alive long enough to basically do a massive update for an apex 2 essentially. - Not many, but perhaps 2-3 new guns? - 2-3 new "default" maps. (kind of like how they had worlds edge, kings canyon, and olympus etc). - Keep all the old and mostly played legends, but remove possibly 2-3 unused legends that could take their place for someone else similar or entirely different. - new and interest cosmetics, introduce a different kind of design (like particles or something, anything that can feel refreshed in any way. Maybe gear designs idk.) - somehow a refined cheating detection, and a better reporting system. Ive tried typing many ideas here but theyre all kind of lackluster.
No dont listen to the community. All they di is cheat and cry for more lore amd back stories..and thats exactly why the devs waste time on skins and stupid things to put in the game..and exactly why they dont get straight to fixing core issues.
Honestly the only reason I could rationalize is that they straight up do nothing. No major advertising, no major draw, no special systems, no retention, no fun. If I can know what is going on in Overwatch, a game I detest, then I should be able to know recent developments in Apex. If I don't, its not because I'm avoiding it.
The problem isn't fans the problem is streamers and content creators who buy the whole event just for content even tho it's trash. They don't care if normal people buy it. Everyone buying it for content makes them enough money i blame streamers and content creators for the greed of apex
For sure, content creators who are terrified of leaving the game because they don’t know if their audience will watch other games. Half the time they don’t even spend the minimum to get the stuff cause they know they’re going to buy more anyway so they just dump like $400 into the game whenever anything drops.
It's been hard to take the game seriously ever since the whole destroyer2009 fiasco. After grinding my ass off for a whole season, running into cheaters every day including destroyer himself, even multiple cheater squads in the same lobby at times. It's so hard to keep motivation when hours of work can be reversed by getting hip fire 1 clipped from 400 meters. Then the biggest competitive Apex tournament at the time gets hacked, I realized, EA/Respawn are so far behind the problem that it will literally never get solved. But please buy the new collection event :D
1). £49.99 for Apex. 2FA using a contract phone only. (yes they can do that). That’s the cheaters taken care of. 2). Upgrade the servers from the leased rubbish they currently use (min 60Hz tick) 3). Spend money on experienced devs to fix the Audio, SBMM and bugs. 4). Reduce close range roller AI to 0.2 for both console and PC, BUT increase mid/long distance AI (I’m M&K btw) 5). Bring back dive trails. Release all the remaining legend heirlooms in one hit. Ditch Mythic shards and increase pick rate of heirloom shards by half (every 250 packs opened). Allow fan art skin submissions (Most are 100x better than in-house). Remove BP paywall but increase it to 150 from 99. Increase the RP buy-in for 3-stacks. Reduce for soloQ.
no gaming company atm is on massive hiring spree. this won't happen and not because it is EA, because the corporates don't invest with such risk anymore. Most of the stuff you referring at require money which they obviously don't have. If I had to guess at this point they just trying to push shit in order to keep the game alive and squeeze the last bit of profit they can. Then they might come out with something like Apex Legends 2, based on the new Source engine valve released for CS2.
I don't have a special deathbox, but when i died, i spectated enemy team, and in their perspective my deathbox was special. I think, that they try to fool the players into thinking that a lot of players have the special deathbox, so they feel they need to get it aswell.
Yeah I actually quit during the FF7 event after playing religously since the beginning. I was excited for the promo but upon being forced to spend 500+ or gamble....I ended up getting nothing and just kinda quit playing as the playerbase was also getting worse. Constantly dealing with Predators, raging teammates, and stale updates I was just done. I tried coming back recently just to see how the game was changing and there are like 4 new currencies now to buy more and more garbage, battle pass split in half, i quickly uninstalled again.
It’s just tired getting on with friends after a long day of work and responsibilities. To clearly be met with ranked 6-9 man squads and obvious cheaters. Like imma just go to bed I got to work in the morning dawg 😭😂
it is and they are in the same universe.. i wonder if apex could do a titanfall event. i think they have that up their sleeve to revive the game one day... (the community will still get mad that they gave TF attention in the first place)
@@delank4687 not even somewhat, they *are* the same universe. And *if* they did a titanfall event...like the hype leading up to Conduit's release, the people will just be pissed that they aren't working on fixing the old tf2, or trying to make a new one, since tf2 is still avidly played by many people.
I got banned last year and my life couldnt be better. I had spent such a long time being disappointed in the game because of really bad gun changes and hackers. For me, it all started when they took stabilizers off SMGs. Then just about every patch after that pissed me off.
Idk if anyone else cares or agrees but... some other changes they made that pissed me off was: - The fire rate cap on the p20 which I loved to use beforehand. Then they added dual wield which is awesome but also decided to NERF the p20 standalone. - They slaughtered the Prowler with the fire rate nerf at some point. Knowing damn well people were already mad about selectfire being gone. - They slaughtered Valkyries movement and ult which is her whole identity. - They took the bocek out for a long ass time. And there's probably a bunch of other stuff I can't remember too.
I honestly just left this game behind in general. The balancing was and still is horrendous, players were just self entitled douches, and the amount of sweats was unbearable. It got to a point where it just was not fun in the slightest way at all. Then after that, all the sudden EA went back to their Mr.Krabs "money money money!!" Arc, and made a disgrace to their games reputation. The devs honestly just flipped the bird to millions of titanfal fans and its game. Maybe tho, just maybe.......the devs will do something.....
@@realamirthehumanI didn't even know they added dual wield. The game became irrelevant to me when every single game became nothing but diamonds and preds using crazy movement every single game. I played for fun, just wanted to chill. Can't do that anymore. Also stabilizers taken off smgs sucked.
@LeviMiller-t5s heavy on the entitlement bit. I made it to diamond 2 miraculously and people started getting reallly really entitled to playing mindlessly aggressive then flaming the team when they died. Thats actually why I got banned, because I profanely argued with people. Im not even really that kind of person irl but Apex just brought it out of me lol. Never been banned in a game before.
@eclipticpeak8452 I feel you. As I told the other dude I made it to diamond 2 and it's not even fun at that point, it's just a sweatfest mixed with ego.
I’m in shock about the hack thing. I had no idea that had even happened. I stopped playing probably sometime last year before any of these events in the video because the game just stopped adding new and fun things. Apex will always hold a special place in my heart, it’s the game I used to play with my buddy from school all the time back in lockdown and even before, sad to see it fall so far.
That death box, the post malone, and final fantasy events were all my last days of apex, I can’t even remember what season this all was it’s been so long
I really love Apex, the gameplay, the universe all of it. I want this game to continue thriving again, but I can’t even stand to play it that much anymore. I hope the devs can do something huge to bring people back, I want this game to be relevant for more years. Plus I’ve spent a pretty penny on this game and I’d like it to stay active
1:52 this is why I say Wemod should be introduced into multiplayer games... If for only one reason: To break the economy of the games that have become victims of greed and give everyone a fair shot. Gambling should only be legal in one part of the earth: Casinos. Anywhere else isn't justifiable in the slightest. Casinos exist as spots where you WANT to go gambling... No one wants it imposed upon them, and Casinos take an off-hands approach. Games don't have that luxury, when you force it on someone: you force it on everyone.
Out of my nearly 5 years of playing Apex, I've only encountered maybe 6 legitimate, blatant cheaters. There's not chance so many people are dying to as many cheaters as they say they are. I'm just as likely to run into cheaters as anyone else
@@pootzmagootz This isn't true. people in high tier ranked lobbies have to deal with multiple cheaters every game. Also if your sbmm is higher in pubs then your likely to see a lot more cheaters as well because they tend to be in high elo lobbies. I see at least 6 a day between wall hackers, soft bot and rage hacks.
11:14 anyone that left specifically due to the aim assist nerf are the same people that debated tooth and nail that AA wasn’t too strong and hearing the developers of the game agree with MnK players truly hurt them
they just need to implement input based match making. Like i wouldn't play competitive chess against a computer, why do i want to play against one in an fps. Especially in small late game circles, some kids controller just AA beams you for free.
For me personally, I'm done with battle royale games. The last time I played a lot of Apex was when Control was added as a separate game mode for like a month and it was not part of the mixtape. It was fun. Players played for the objective, there was team play and it felt rewarding when you capture a CP/zone (or whatever it was called). Then it was moved to mixtape, meaning it was part of the other (boring for me) mini game modes like TDM and gungame and at specific time and players didn't care about the objective. They were treating control like TDM. The game has been out for more than 5 years and Respawn couldn't figure out how to evolve the game beyond BR.
6:05 ish, @grrt this is actually wrong, it was ‘confirmed’ individual cases of pc being compromised, pirate software was streaming with hal or something and they were going through the pc and a connection drop got detected just as they were heading off which indicated to him that his system was compromised
One important part that wasn't noted was changes to sbmm, the core game (mechanics and movement) are amazing, making it fun to play casually, but the crazy sbmm makes games unplayable after a long days work
I quit cause i'm a cosmetics oriented person and cosmetics became more and more predatory to get, I already was struggling to find it in my budget to spent 100-150$ for an heirloom for my character, let alone 300-400$ for a universal heirloom, not to mention the new tier of skin above legendary legend skins... I understand they have to make profits but locking EVERYTHING cool behind money isn't the play.
The recent addition of sticking health bars is I think a good example of how respawn don’t even care: they didn’t play test the idea, because several legends, like mirage, had their skills fucked with (mirage clones have no health bar)
Te reason i quit apex wasn't all you just mentioned. It was the servers! I'm running the game on low end pc. Although I'm whitin the steam minimum requirements for it, the game is lagging HARD, and it makes the game for me personally completely unplayable! Everytime they relese a new update it screws up the game and it becomes a shitty mess. And keep in mind that I'm a season 0 player. I started playing before Octane was released. I got addicted pretty fast to the game, and considered myself a good player. I enjoyed playing the game, and enjoyed learning new movement teck, but the laggs were starting to frustrate me. Now I occasionally enter foring range to see if the laggs are there, and usually get all red icons, then I quit and hope they fix it. I'm still updating the game hoping they fixed something, but I get disappointed quickly knowing that they woud rather relese new skins and money grab items then fixing the game. P.S. To anybody wondering "Why dont you just buy a new pc"? I started working recently and becouse life is unpredictable, I usually spend money on other more important things(although I'm starting to save up some money for it though).
I think saying that Respawn is greedy is a stretch. I think if they had free reign over their game, it'd have a way higher player count. This seems like it's mostly on greedy EA shareholders.
EA is greedy. Respawn is lazy and unqualified. They are doing the least amount of work possible (cosmetics) to pull in the most money to keep EA happy. This is what happens when you have a bunch of unsupervised covid/diversity hires working from home and the ones in the office who are there for the wrong reasons. They are also tasked with updating and maintaining a game built on an engine that the people who built the game from the ground up struggled with. Then we get a big sob story when 200 Q/A employees get laid off. Looking at the state of the game before and after I have to ask myself. WTF were those 200 ppl even doing? Sadly the real talent left long ago.
Eh I'd agree but don't forget it was respawn that called the players freeloaders when they complained about the iron crown event, I'd say they're just as guilty as EA
Copium, the game is hot trash, and the player base knows this. Dropping down from the ship, having to loot just to be killed by the 4th 3rd party after 1 minute of gameplay. Then back to the main menu to repeat the process. 0 account progress outside of battleroyal feels pointless to play anything else.
@OldgenRictofen the game in itself is not objectively trash. Don't say your opinion like it's a fact. More people would agree that the base gameplay is good than say it's bad
Them just being transparent similar to pubg and their weekly ban update, then I think more people would play. They are scared to address it thinking it'll do the opposite and bring attention that there are cheaters.
They punish players who take the time to get good by removing or severely nerfing bunny hop healing, punch boosting , tap strafing from rollers while allowing cheaters to do as they please it's only a matter of time before it's titan fall all over again
I dont think it was a bad idea to take out tap straging from roller. Ive played day 1 on controller and mnk and the aim assist was way too strong. I went months without touching a roller and when i decided to play with roller again i was 100% better. Yes it takes skill to use movement but roller already has its perk which is aim assist and mnk can use their whole arm but it doesnt amount to much if you just cant aim. Mnk has movement no aim assist but roller had aim assist and movement and it was not fair
@emma6648 it would if apex made the game easier for movement but it does take a lot of practice and skill to actually use movement in game without cfgs
There's no casual player base. As it stands, their model is designed to encourage "career" players, but consequently pushes away casual players. You're either a sweat or a temporary player. Without investing in fun/casual play, they're losing out on a massive number of players that would otherwise stick around longer.
Brilliant video man. Very entertaining and streamlined. So sad what happened to my favorite game😭😭😭 Keep it up Garret I love u!🐐❤️🔥 Let’s hope Respawn clutch up big time🙏🙏🙏
I dropped the game along with my friends a bit into Eclipse. My console friends thought cross progression came a little too late and I was bored of the extremely expensive cosmetics and nothing else to look forward to in events. Not even the Final Fantasy event brought me back despite me being a huge fan. As casual players, the lack of legend and weapon releases are what got us.
Nearly forgot about apex tbh, THE FINALS is just so much better in every regard. Respawn won't ever be able to get me back into Apex, here's hoping they figure it out for Titanfall 3.
tired of bugs and game breaking glitches. tired of horrible, greedy events. i decided i was done with this game when i saw THE GRAND FINALS of the BIGGEST APEX EVENT get HACKED LIVE MID GAME. HOW IS THIS SOMETHING YOU GUYS JUST SWEEP UNDER THE RUG? WEAK GAME AND WEAK DEVELOPERS THAT DONT CARE.
Then leave, also are you telling me no game has had people that downloaded software that had a RAT? If you even know what that is. The two people that were affected had download software which had the RAT. Apex is fine until it comes to the shitty community, yes it has monetization just like other games, it's been alive since 2019
Trying to blame the loss of players on nerfing controllers is idiotic. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that either of those controller nerfs caused a significant loss of players and the graph certainly does not prove this. In both cases the player numbers were already on a decline and actually saw a spike post nerf. The original poster is clearly just some salty loser crying that his objectively broken input got nerfed.
They'd have inevitably quit anyway. I play controller and arguably got better after the nerf. Used to play A LOT of BF4 AA off, so it actually helped me out 😂
Yep the algs hack is the reason why i lost all interest with apex Idk why i just feel like that is such a big blunder, i lost trust toward EA and respawn I never seen a game got hack that badly
So I returned to Apex after like a year the other day. Queued Trio filled, first game 3, both of my teammates are bots, went afk, saw like 10 bots walking and punching walls all dropping in one area, deleted the game again.
The ALGS hacking incident was a huge blow IMO and constantly getting matched with preds. My friend and I at the beginning of this season got a game with Verhulst as our teammate. A PRO PLAYER BRO
Two things I think could fix pretty much all the issues. Deal with the cheaters obviously, but also legitimize R5 reloaded. That side of the community is criminally underrated, and could transform this game into one still played in 20+ years.
As someone who quit 2 years ago, i am pretty good at the game was 2.4 kd but the game didn't feel fun at all playing against 3 pred players in the same lobby as me at times ranked felt more casual than casual lobby
im suprised you didn't mention that time where if we logged into the game we lost all our cosmetics and reset our level to 0 that was def another huge factor for some players
personally, I quit when they implemented cross save. They removed dozens of badges from my account, reset all my kill trackers, and I guess it just felt like they don't care at all. SO many companies have figured out cross save, and I think apex might literally be the only one I've ever seen do it so poorly. It's genuinely pathetic.
Apex was my favorite game. I have over 2000 hours on it and have spent at least 1k in over 5 years. It wasnt getting any better in the past year and the last time I played was the revenant rework and maxing the battle pass. Respawn must change the matchmaking and servers to get anybody coming back like myself. I miss playing wattson man
i stopped playing bc it wasn’t fun anymore. unless you have full trio of friends, the randoms are drool for brains and everyone else in the lobby is an absolute sweat, even in unranked.
There's no innovation, there's no progression in the game, there's zero attempt at retaining players, there's no reactive/timely balancing, there's thousands of cheaters and teamers, mtx is overblown.
Removing once permanent game modes and supplementing them for subpar modes.
No new weapons either. The last weapon we got was in season 16. SIXTEEN.
Dude I’m currently mid d3 on Xbox solo it’s pure agony laggers, 6 man occasionally less than last season for sure still a problem, but them recoil modders are out of hand and the amount of times I’ve been totally pre fired makes me think they got walls in here some how some way idk for sure but I’m connvined hackers got a emulator these days at least for walls
So why do you still play ?
I pushed to diamond one in arenas. Now I can't play the game mode anymore. And now I dont care if they bring back. My interest in this game is just dead.
@@zerogotit3373 I play apex bro won’t give up yet plus if you get a master badge this season your a pretty hard player imo
@@clozedcaskets1438 I was talking too @beebeebeelol
The majority of the reasons for the game dying is EA making shitty decisions and refusing to fix the game
Spitting facts if epic games bought it then it would be better
Gotta hold respawn accountable too, they are a long way from innocent
@@AidanMitchell-d2ythat's a good joke man
cant even play the game without lagging with their shitty 20 tick servers
@@Chino817x its straight facts, look at fortnite, i have never seen anyone complain about fortnite being dry, only bad thing i hear is the balancing which every competitive game will have
I just hated coming home after a 10 hr shift and being forced to fight 3 stacking preds and masters in 95% of my matches. I have a 1.0 k/d, why am I constantly fighting the top 0.1% of the player base? I’d rather just start a new game of Skyrim for the thousandth time
Thats why i quit 3 seasons ago. i have the same k/d as you.
I have the same problem. As a plat player, I have to fight Masters, Preds, and of course hundreds of Smurfs and it happens every game. Also, I rarely have teammates who can play this game.
The majority of preds and masters are cheaters. I don't mind getting destroyed by someone who is genuinely better, but the majority are using aim bot/esp etc.
The masters and pred population should be much lower if it was organic but it's not which is why we see so many in lower lobbies
Same
Apex is one of those games where skill gap plays a huge fucking role so new/average players find it pretty hard to compete in it as is. Then they decide to make it even harder with their stupid SBMM system and it feels unrewarding as fuck so no wonder everyone quits.
"Apex is being KIlled"
Every Titanfall fan ever:"🥳🎉"
...do you actually think they will make Titanfall 3 once Apex dies? They'll either be allocated to some other EA project or just laid off...
@@naiiin6949 EA will just kill Respawn if Apex flops and it will be over for Titanfall fans
Okay I swear my comments about wanting apex to end so the resources can go to something better and so the titanfall franchise can rest in piece keep getting deleted
@@Dcraft_TNTif your comment is too short/simple and you instantly click off the comment section it tends to be deleted (to fight against bots i guess). I get around this by liking my own comment and staying on the thread for a few seconds.
@@BlueTable-t6k I mean those comments were LONG
I personally left Apex because it was getting hard to have a normal casual experience. Every game felt like we were playing some tournament with money on the line or someone / team had such impossibly great aim that it all just became exhausting. These are things i would criticize games like Warzone about but, with its multitude of issues, that actually feels better to play than Apex.
Well I can't think of any current popular shooters where people aren't overly sweaty. That's just how this generation of gamers are. No one wants to play PVP shooters to be casual anymore.
@@falloutglasster7807 Fortnite. I can literally login to that game and have a chill time. If i want a sweaty experience i can just play ranked. Also like i said Warzone isn't that bad TBH. I've won multiple games by myself and i started playing it again a month ago lol
@@DmedZWN fortnite puts literal bots in the game to fill up the lobbies. I think it's different.
@@falloutglasster7807yeah it’s good for casuals who want a few wins
@@Spiderjepo I'm not devs should start putting bots in their games, but the likelihood of people being less sweaty is pretty low.
the worst part of it all is that when it dies enough EA is just going to throw apex away to die in the same corner they left both Titanfalls in
Good game sucks ass
People have to stop just blaming EA. Yes EA is greedy we know that
BUT if respawn had this game all to themselves they would be making the same monetization changes
i think the only way for it to die is either a new source engine br or proper strafe+wall grab br
Were just fucked. We play, they keep this shit up. If we quit in protest, they just shut the game down.
Watch what you say Titanfall 2 still has tens of thousands of players worldwide
ok, so let me get this straight:
They killed Titanfall 2, but then tried to make Titanfall 3 and killed the project to make Apex legends, and now they are killing Apex. So they just wanna lose all of the people who love titanfall universe?
they already lost everyone who actually loved the titanfall universe when they made apex and kept taking a dump on the lore.
nah im just playing titanfall 2, feels good
@@judgement7279it’s damn near impossible for me to play tf2 anymore since I play games closer to night 😔
@@buff_ah_low Northstar usually has a populated 25 man glitch 24/7 server running
@@buff_ah_lowsometimes I just do solo Frontier Defence or bounty hunt runs in a private lobby. Yeah, sounds lonely af, but it's actually surprisingly fun and challenging.
i just feel like EA is milking it before tossing it aside. EA has a very, very long repeated history of doing this: prop up a big shiny new game for a few years, milk as much out of it as possible, throw it away and make a new big shiny game. it feels like that's the road apex is going down sadly - which is insane because apex is actually a genuinely well made game and could easily last for another 5+ years if actual care and innovation was put into it.
Idk if im being dramatic but this genuinely feels like watching your pet die or some shit for me LOL. i feel like i should play this game for its last waking days to make a few more memories before this shit gets lit on fire and dumped. Real talk though this sucks and makes me sad because i have so much history with apex, it was the only game i played for my teen years. I have almost 10k hours. i stopped grinding/sweating it like 2 years ago. ill play a few hours every couple of months apart now
Agree with u on this one Ea doesnt care if it dies, they have fifa degenerates it generates hella money
when it released they did say they wanted it to be a 5-10 year game. we've hit the 5
Copium, the world will be better when apex dies maybe tiran fall 3 drops (doubt that)
@@MRMC99999 all youve been doing in this comment section is hating on apex bruh
Alot of us got sick of the shitty match making like I go work for 9 hours come home and get absolutely slammed by 3 toddlers who haven't got off since the day started and are max rank
Never forget how much fun we all had playing apex like 3 years ago. It was a joy.
Didn’t this game come out like 10 years ago? This shit amazing it’s still alive. It’s not a mmo, it’s just a styled shooter. Like so what is this game isn’t as popular as it was before. League not as popular but we don’t say it’s dead.
Idk this nonsense should stop.
@@AbstractHomosapien 5 years ago but yeah basically 10 years right?
See, I loved apex a lot and used to play it almost religiously with some friends but when season 22 came out, I just kinda stopped because it became so bad that now I rarely if ever play it. It's just in a horrid state. Id love to play it for hours and hours a day again but I just can't with how bad it's gotten. RIP one of my favorite games.
I was the same way. I used to play it for 3 a day, on the weekends I'd play it for at least 15 hours, now I just play one or two games and just get annoyed and play something else.
@@DankBirdGang52 Bro literally the same thing here. I used to grind almost every day atleast 3 hours in seasons 9 and 10 and then i was falling off but still active until season 15. And the i dont remeber. The only season i was more active was revenant reborn that was sick. Now i do 1 or 2 games and i feel bored. I miss prime apex
With you, so upsetting and the game just needed LOVE but received GREED
same history but when s20 came out
Me too, I used to play nearly every day and just stopped after the end of season 20. I was just kinda done at that point and haven't played since.
How to save Apex, take it away from EA
5:45 if you actually read the announcement you can see they never said they fixed it. in fact they never even said they figured out how it happened. all they said is they're going to improve security, well we see from the state of the game how well those improvements have worked.
Exactly.
It was. A Acanned PR statement.
Nothing changed, and security *got worse* as the % of cheaters skyrocketed from 20% of master+ account banned to well over 40% over the next 2 seasons.
In the reddit post, it's literally in purple.
"The game has a problem with cheaters!"
EA: "Let's remove Linux AC Support, that's gonna fix it."
The backslash they get is comical tbh lmao
Every game is either getting stomped by players 10x better than me, or stomping players who are 10x worse than me. There is very few games where Its a long and hard fought battle. Either you're better than the lobby, or you're worse. I miss the days of hard fought end games.
Has anyone else noticed that your teammates Legend Select animation doesn't play when the pick thier legend? Yours plays but thiers doesn't.
I think it's because people would spam click their legend and it was mad annoying lol
Wait I thought it was because of my internet. lol
I thought it was just another new bug that surfaced from the last big update…..😭
@@squeasel09😂how? You can literally turn off the audio if your a baby about it
@@squeasel09the screen last 5 seconds buddy
The trouble with corpos is they always learn the wrong lesson. They think a declining player count means declining interest, therefore no more market. When in reality, the market wants to play the game. The people who left still WANT to play the game, but the corpos are too stupid to realize putting the game in a better state increases the interest and the market.
well, making the game good also takes work vs a new funny recolor skin for the 15th time
cyberpunk reference?
It's because they think the things in the store are the problem, not the actual game. Corporate only cares about how much money the game makes, if no one buys skins, they think people aren't interested. They have absolutely ZERO involvement in the game, they just look at the sales numbers and make their judgements there. Video games are dead, and capitalism killed them just like everything else in modern society.
No trouble is people keep supporting companies like EA who are blatantly known for inserting as much greedy practices as possible, milking a franchise dry before tossing them aside for the next game to do the same. it boggle my mind how many players fund EA's unethical and down right criminal behavior, dont learn a single thing and just repeat the process. and its even worse when game devs sign up with them not doing their homework
@@soldier22881 This isn't EA. Respawn said almost four years ago already that they have unrestricted creative and financial control over the game. They decide everything, price tags on every cosmetic and such included.
As a sims 4 player the worst thing respawn ever did was allow EA to basically take over. Sims 4 has been out for 10 years just for it to still be mediocre and expensive
i still cant believe i saw people defending the decision to sell respawn to EA when it happened. it was like listening to a bunch of loons trying to convince everyone the sky was green.
Can't blame them if people are stupid enough to spend money on these things
@@Spitsonyou fr I’ve learned to download all the expansions thru anadius. I got annoyed when I couldn’t do cross progression from my Xbox to my pc. I wasn’t going to pay for the packs all over.
@@SpitsonyouImo apex died when respawn developed a huge asian female fetish. 4 asian female and 2 asian female back to back. There was completely no reason why alter couldn't have been a guy. Crypto the only asian guy is the worst of all. They want to pair a bunch of asian females with bunch of white guys like every other hero shooters flooded with asian women to sell $ for incel losers. The other racial group are just there to feel inclusive. Go woke and go broke
I was finally setting up to buy the game properly this year and eventually all the dlc's too. But after getting only the base game my internet was down some hours and I couldn't play the game, because login issues. I just deleted everything after that; sims was my goto offline game and they killed it with the ea play system. I'm not even feeling to jack sparrow it.
The biggest reason is, it isnt fun anymore for normal adults who work 40+ hours a week, being put in lobbys that feel like ranked when I just wanna relax aftet a long week. Games for pros now, not for normal peeps.
The main reason why i quit apex is no tail reward in rank anymore
Game Dev's take note: You cannot have functional problem with the game like rampant cheating AND THEN only give updates to shopping. It shows you're greedy and don't care about player enjoyment, just profit. It's a turn off.
Seriously, you can only do these douchey prices hikes and gambling scams if your game is in a position of excess goodwill, which Apex WAS NOT when you did these scams.
EA doesnt care they are all about greed. people need to stop buying EA games to begin with
100%
I'm the person who made the original reddit post.
They had a cheating problem, ignored it and spiked prices.
Then when the players began to decline, they panicked and started nerfing roller as the average player thinks AA is to blame.
The AA neef in s22 was literally a lazy hail Mary, and it *failed*
@@soldier22881 cmon don't divert all the blame from respawn.
The funniest part about why EA just doesn't care what majority of players say it's because people are still buying things from the events, especially RUclipsrs. RUclipsrs buy every single event because they can make content out of this and get their money back, so EA is like, "We got payed, so we don't need to change anything". If we want EA to actually start caring about Apex we need to stop buying battlepasses and events for real money (if you have enough apex coins or crafting metals already it's not bad to buy, because they won't make money out of this) because if they stop making milions or bilions from reselling pretty much the same skins but with different colours for this much, maybe they'll start to care. Do you remember when SaveTitanfall was a thing? They fixed it fast, so if we want them to do something, we need to take matter into our own hands
Why do yall just copy paste this everytime? This is not middle school these theories won't work simply because they are not feasible.
They have never worked and never will.
@@davailama1808then why don’t you explain if ur so smart?
@@davailama1808 Got any better ideas smart guy? or is just saying "ur wrong" the only thing you can do
@@davailama1808 Helldivers 2. That's all the proof you need.
Agreed. Me and my friends have stopped paying anything for events and skins since season 18 and we're hoping a lot of people would do the same.
In context of RUclipsrs, I think we just need 1 youtuber to do the same and the masses might follow
Rip Apex Legends. I wish I could have a refund
Been playing for 2 1/2 years and only given the game $15. Proud of myself for not super supplying this shitty company with tons of money.
Same
nearly 2k hours spent $0 on it greatest decision ever
@@supaweeb4076 you're probably a bronze bot then lol 😂
@@yoyodude662no problem with that
Apex is like Among us for me. I start to think "damn i want to play apex" and play a whole straight 1 - 2 weeks then get bored and a month or 2 later i get right back into that mood.
I do that with every competitive shooter. It’s a disease lol. Fall out get back in and repeat. Warzone, Fortnite, apex, fml
Came back for season 22, and the roller nerf wasn’t even noticeable because every other player was a totally legit predator beaming me across the map 100-0 in one re45 clip. At the time I was playing later in the night and by the time I got a few games in the servers were so dead that it couldn’t even match me with enough players for a ranked lobby and there was maybe 3 total lobbies going on in my SBMM bracket because it would take anywhere from 5-15 minutes to find a pub lobby as well. The steam charts just don’t truly show how absolutely awful the experience is for anyone that isn’t playing at 3pm on a Friday, especially if they aren’t below average skill level wise. Half the people still playing are cheaters, and the other half are their alt accounts.
GRRT can you please stop throwing shopping carts at me when I go shopping 😔
Not funny
@@granddaddylurch9178 Womp womp lil bro
@@granddaddylurch9178 cry me a river
thats the best comment
The ridiculous amount of blatant cheating has completely turned me off of it. This game can go to hell.
What platform are you on
@@janimize-3066 PS5
@@Wolfenstein69924 it’s not that bad
This split has no 6 manners
@@janimize-3066 people still use the cronus zen, theirs a by pass
Season 0 player here and i play it still Every day because i love thé movement but even for me is it sweaty . Every pub lobby is full with preds and in ranked i got thé worst randoms but still have to fight preds .
This is why i just stopped playing. Im not a great player, im okay. But every game i was always dying basically to the first squad i ran into which always seemed to be a 3 stack of coordinated masters+ players, who would run me down like i was a noob. Meanwhile since i dont have a 3 stack 99% of all my games it felt like I would get either players significantly worse than me, or flat out brand new players who legit dont understand how to heal yet. I queue up with a bud whos basically as good as me, but we aint good enough to consistently take on the 3 stacks. And it just got so frustrating to play a game where i spend 99% of the time looting only to deliver the loot to the first squad we ran into. This would be the case for like a solid 10-20 matches before sbmm decided to chill and we start to get into lobbies that felt way more fair. God forbid we win a match, the sbmm instantly shoots us back into the dumb lobbies. This game just aint for me anymore, and i have a feeling many others feel the same.
Heh, I tried the new event and there was a 110k horizon and a 64k as the champ squad. Land and get killed by preds over and over that weren't even the champs.
@@TheHollowBladebig issue yea, honestly i don't even mind having 3 stacks as enemies, since it's likely friends having fun together but atleast let me play against 3 stacks that are at my skill and give me mates at my skill
@@Melloweeen agreed 100%, masters and preds should not be punished for playing together, but like you said. Dont put them against me and give me timmy no thumbs who just installed the game and ignored the tutorial and expect me to somehow 1v3 players who are flat out better than me in most cases.
Every Game Open Mic Controller loot goblins dying with 69 DMG while having every Item in the game
Miss the 2021 and 2022 experience of playing apex and actually having fun.
The cheating is what ruined the game for me. What’s the point of playing a game where half the people use cheats .
Unfortunately that's almost every shooter nowadays.
WAY more than half, people are completely delusional about the cheats in apex even still
5 different currencies for a game is absolutely wild.
i think weapon and legend meta has alot of impact on the decline too. its one thing to have bugs, release new items or legends over powered, its another forcing the player base to deal with bugs or boring metas for months until they drop a new season to make any meaningful change. respawn neeeds to steer the game away from metas that are unhealth for the game.
Tbh the isssues you stated probably had a good impact on why ppl left apex. However just based on everyone i know who play and played all have the same issue and its the sbmm. Either my friends quit bc of how sweaty it gets with no fun to be had if you dont constantly have a 3 stack in pubs no less. While just bc you got 3kills last match and 876dmg now you have to carry 1 or 2 new ish players against a lobby of diamond- pred trails which most are stacking. Its not a fun game anymore apex isnt a sit down and have a casual fun session unless you just love losing 85% of your gun fights bc little no name 95k kills with their 2 other friends with 50k kills on their legends are sweating in pubs. Having to sweat 24/7 is not enjoyable tbh. So yes its the sbmm for many and im sure a lot of ppl feel the same.
As they remake the armor system and allow health bar display, it greatly inhance the intensity of fights which makes it more sweaty...
for sure that makes people play more agro with being able to see health bars and shields.@@Catbot_0004
This is partially why removing duos in S21 was a big issue and why a lot of people play ranked. Ranked doesn't have SBMM (though if queue times get long it will loosen up the pool you can queue into). SBMM needs to die. It ruins games. Sometimes I want an easy lobby and if I want to sweat I should be playing ranked, not the other way around.
So basically you have skill issue
I rotate through games constantly and Apex has slowly been pushe dout of my rotation. Mind you, I put 700hrs since the day the game launched so I'm not experiencing most seasons. My biggest issue is the speed games end. If I play casual then game end in like 15 minutes and I see maybe 2-3 squads. If I play ranked then people are too afraid to fight and I have to wait until the final few rings to really play the game. I really enjoyed having mixtape, but did not like having to wait for the mode I wanted or weapons I want to use because I really enjoy the gunplay in Apex. If they ever brought back that 3v3 mode, I'd probably play more, but right now I can just play any other game in my library.
I do miss enjoying Apex, even as I’ve started getting my Apex FPS fill from The Finals
At this point, all I see about Apex is it’s blunders, and the main times I think about Apex are when The Finals does something similar to Apex but better
I’d love to come back to Apex, but its just not for me anymore sadly :(
Respawn could make EA 4 bill a year and EA still would say it's not enough.
all of you guys are so annoying with blaming ea thinking your making good talking points its not eas fault the game is like this and that hurts to say cause i hate ea but respawn is mostly to blame for it and respawn is also the reason why TF2 failed because they insisted on having the game release between two big gaming titles(cod and battlefield iirc)
EA isn't fully the issue. Respawn is bad too.
In season 20, there was an update that reset everyone's account to a year back and removed all ranked badges. Then, the very next update reset accounts to level 1. This basically let everybody know that nothing they own is permanent.
Knowing live service games don't last forever and will one day go offline should have been enough. This was definitely a reality check for some people.
@@SlapsMcGaps Life also doesn’t last forever. That doesn’t mean I’d like it if I’d unexpectedly like to lose it.
They did revert the stats lol. I lost almost 2.5k rp and would’ve deranked to master. They reverted it a week and 2 days after I got reset early. First split didn’t even count s20 btw just people didn’t read the patch notes and understand the semantics where it only took split 2 rank.
You needed a bug to tell u that!
@@ovalfps Not me personally but certainly some people did
Yeah but being fair, apex has been just praying on its own downfall tbh.
They know it’s going to die there just milking it
I started day one and was constantly ranked up in Pred. I gave up like 3 years ago. Tired of losing my mind with frustrating mechanics and mindless Wraith mains blaming the team.
I think the profit goals play the biggest part in Apex’s position.
Making the game better costs money, but their way of making money is making the game worse, which makes people leave and lose out on more money.
I miss the hype for new seasons. The trailers, the game modes, the new legends, the side quests/lore.
Apex servers are still on 20 updates per second and the whole of Africa doesn't have a server , I'm surprised the game is ever alive at this point
13:03 while live service does make up the majority of EA's revenue, their cash cows are Madden and FIFA. That 73% includes the mirco transactions they use for those 2 games with things like 'ultimate team' etc. Apex still makes them some decent coin but it pales in comparison to Madden and FIFA. I do agree though, that eventually EA could look to spin off Apex or even Respawn and try to sell it.
EA Is where great franchises go to die unfortunately, when was the last Sim City game?
60 percent is FIFA, 10 is Madden and 3 for Apex lol
One step in the right direction would be is make apex 2 where they take a note from overwatch and let you transfer all your skins to the new apex 2 servers along with having the better server for the game to run appropriately.
2. Hire a ton of people or seriously do something about cheaters so that will stop
3. Stop listening to the pros as much and listen to the community more thats where there money is at and will help them get more if you feed their needs
4. Have weekly updates and stuff so issues can be nipped in the ass
yea this could be better. maybe some shit like "Apex Legends : ReBoRn!" idc, ill Fw it. this isnt easy, but they should keep apex alive long enough to basically do a massive update for an apex 2 essentially.
- Not many, but perhaps 2-3 new guns?
- 2-3 new "default" maps. (kind of like how they had worlds edge, kings canyon, and olympus etc).
- Keep all the old and mostly played legends, but remove possibly 2-3 unused legends that could take their place for someone else similar or entirely different.
- new and interest cosmetics, introduce a different kind of design (like particles or something, anything that can feel refreshed in any way. Maybe gear designs idk.)
- somehow a refined cheating detection, and a better reporting system. Ive tried typing many ideas here but theyre all kind of lackluster.
No dont listen to the community. All they di is cheat and cry for more lore amd back stories..and thats exactly why the devs waste time on skins and stupid things to put in the game..and exactly why they dont get straight to fixing core issues.
Or just make titanfall 3?
@@muhsin8111 they will never do this thats why this is not a good suggestion
@@delank4687 they keep trying to turn apex into an arena shooter, its not a bad suggestion
Honestly the only reason I could rationalize is that they straight up do nothing.
No major advertising, no major draw, no special systems, no retention, no fun.
If I can know what is going on in Overwatch, a game I detest, then I should be able to know recent developments in Apex. If I don't, its not because I'm avoiding it.
The problem isn't fans the problem is streamers and content creators who buy the whole event just for content even tho it's trash. They don't care if normal people buy it. Everyone buying it for content makes them enough money i blame streamers and content creators for the greed of apex
Nahh we live in a simulation, there's no way
i 100% agree with you
For sure, content creators who are terrified of leaving the game because they don’t know if their audience will watch other games. Half the time they don’t even spend the minimum to get the stuff cause they know they’re going to buy more anyway so they just dump like $400 into the game whenever anything drops.
Lol there's no way you actually think even 200 people maxing out an event pays for 10% of the development cost
It's been hard to take the game seriously ever since the whole destroyer2009 fiasco. After grinding my ass off for a whole season, running into cheaters every day including destroyer himself, even multiple cheater squads in the same lobby at times. It's so hard to keep motivation when hours of work can be reversed by getting hip fire 1 clipped from 400 meters. Then the biggest competitive Apex tournament at the time gets hacked, I realized, EA/Respawn are so far behind the problem that it will literally never get solved. But please buy the new collection event :D
1). £49.99 for Apex.
2FA using a contract phone only. (yes they can do that).
That’s the cheaters taken care of.
2). Upgrade the servers from the leased rubbish they currently use (min 60Hz tick)
3). Spend money on experienced devs to fix the Audio, SBMM and bugs.
4). Reduce close range roller AI to 0.2 for both console and PC, BUT increase mid/long distance AI (I’m M&K btw)
5). Bring back dive trails.
Release all the remaining legend heirlooms in one hit.
Ditch Mythic shards and increase pick rate of heirloom shards by half (every 250 packs opened).
Allow fan art skin submissions (Most are 100x better than in-house).
Remove BP paywall but increase it to 150 from 99.
Increase the RP buy-in for 3-stacks. Reduce for soloQ.
This is actually great
He’s hired
no gaming company atm is on massive hiring spree. this won't happen and not because it is EA, because the corporates don't invest with such risk anymore. Most of the stuff you referring at require money which they obviously don't have.
If I had to guess at this point they just trying to push shit in order to keep the game alive and squeeze the last bit of profit they can.
Then they might come out with something like Apex Legends 2, based on the new Source engine valve released for CS2.
And bring back arenas and ability to choose game mod not this stupid mixtape crap
@@PCsAddictionZ They have no money???? Nah youve been brainwashed. Youre the type of person they are praying to have as a consumer to milk.
I don't have a special deathbox, but when i died, i spectated enemy team, and in their perspective my deathbox was special.
I think, that they try to fool the players into thinking that a lot of players have the special deathbox, so they feel they need to get it aswell.
Yeah I actually quit during the FF7 event after playing religously since the beginning. I was excited for the promo but upon being forced to spend 500+ or gamble....I ended up getting nothing and just kinda quit playing as the playerbase was also getting worse. Constantly dealing with Predators, raging teammates, and stale updates I was just done. I tried coming back recently just to see how the game was changing and there are like 4 new currencies now to buy more and more garbage, battle pass split in half, i quickly uninstalled again.
It’s just tired getting on with friends after a long day of work and responsibilities. To clearly be met with ranked 6-9 man squads and obvious cheaters. Like imma just go to bed I got to work in the morning dawg 😭😂
its because apex isnt being made by Titanfall devs. simple.
It was made by titanfall devs tho
it is and they are in the same universe.. i wonder if apex could do a titanfall event. i think they have that up their sleeve to revive the game one day... (the community will still get mad that they gave TF attention in the first place)
@@night2788they fired almost all the OG titanfall devs over the years.
@@delank4687 not even somewhat, they *are* the same universe.
And *if* they did a titanfall event...like the hype leading up to Conduit's release, the people will just be pissed that they aren't working on fixing the old tf2, or trying to make a new one, since tf2 is still avidly played by many people.
@@delank4687 fym SOMEWHAT within the same universe?? Ash is literally someone you fight in TF2, Blisk is a villain in TF2, you killed Valkyrie's dad
I got banned last year and my life couldnt be better. I had spent such a long time being disappointed in the game because of really bad gun changes and hackers. For me, it all started when they took stabilizers off SMGs. Then just about every patch after that pissed me off.
Idk if anyone else cares or agrees but... some other changes they made that pissed me off was: - The fire rate cap on the p20 which I loved to use beforehand. Then they added dual wield which is awesome but also decided to NERF the p20 standalone. - They slaughtered the Prowler with the fire rate nerf at some point. Knowing damn well people were already mad about selectfire being gone. - They slaughtered Valkyries movement and ult which is her whole identity. - They took the bocek out for a long ass time. And there's probably a bunch of other stuff I can't remember too.
I honestly just left this game behind in general.
The balancing was and still is horrendous, players were just self entitled douches, and the amount of sweats was unbearable.
It got to a point where it just was not fun in the slightest way at all.
Then after that, all the sudden EA went back to their Mr.Krabs "money money money!!" Arc, and made a disgrace to their games reputation.
The devs honestly just flipped the bird to millions of titanfal fans and its game.
Maybe tho, just maybe.......the devs will do something.....
@@realamirthehumanI didn't even know they added dual wield. The game became irrelevant to me when every single game became nothing but diamonds and preds using crazy movement every single game. I played for fun, just wanted to chill. Can't do that anymore. Also stabilizers taken off smgs sucked.
@LeviMiller-t5s heavy on the entitlement bit. I made it to diamond 2 miraculously and people started getting reallly really entitled to playing mindlessly aggressive then flaming the team when they died. Thats actually why I got banned, because I profanely argued with people. Im not even really that kind of person irl but Apex just brought it out of me lol. Never been banned in a game before.
@eclipticpeak8452 I feel you. As I told the other dude I made it to diamond 2 and it's not even fun at that point, it's just a sweatfest mixed with ego.
I’m in shock about the hack thing. I had no idea that had even happened. I stopped playing probably sometime last year before any of these events in the video because the game just stopped adding new and fun things. Apex will always hold a special place in my heart, it’s the game I used to play with my buddy from school all the time back in lockdown and even before, sad to see it fall so far.
That death box, the post malone, and final fantasy events were all my last days of apex, I can’t even remember what season this all was it’s been so long
I really love Apex, the gameplay, the universe all of it. I want this game to continue thriving again, but I can’t even stand to play it that much anymore. I hope the devs can do something huge to bring people back, I want this game to be relevant for more years. Plus I’ve spent a pretty penny on this game and I’d like it to stay active
1:52 this is why I say Wemod should be introduced into multiplayer games... If for only one reason: To break the economy of the games that have become victims of greed and give everyone a fair shot. Gambling should only be legal in one part of the earth: Casinos. Anywhere else isn't justifiable in the slightest. Casinos exist as spots where you WANT to go gambling... No one wants it imposed upon them, and Casinos take an off-hands approach. Games don't have that luxury, when you force it on someone: you force it on everyone.
at this point, i encounter more cheaters then regular players 💔
Second guessing every time you die is mentally draining
@OddManOut420 having to adjust the whole playstyle going in because you aren't sure if there could be a cheater sucks
copium
Out of my nearly 5 years of playing Apex, I've only encountered maybe 6 legitimate, blatant cheaters. There's not chance so many people are dying to as many cheaters as they say they are. I'm just as likely to run into cheaters as anyone else
@@pootzmagootz This isn't true. people in high tier ranked lobbies have to deal with multiple cheaters every game. Also if your sbmm is higher in pubs then your likely to see a lot more cheaters as well because they tend to be in high elo lobbies. I see at least 6 a day between wall hackers, soft bot and rage hacks.
11:14 anyone that left specifically due to the aim assist nerf are the same people that debated tooth and nail that AA wasn’t too strong and hearing the developers of the game agree with MnK players truly hurt them
they just need to implement input based match making. Like i wouldn't play competitive chess against a computer, why do i want to play against one in an fps. Especially in small late game circles, some kids controller just AA beams you for free.
For me personally, I'm done with battle royale games. The last time I played a lot of Apex was when Control was added as a separate game mode for like a month and it was not part of the mixtape. It was fun. Players played for the objective, there was team play and it felt rewarding when you capture a CP/zone (or whatever it was called). Then it was moved to mixtape, meaning it was part of the other (boring for me) mini game modes like TDM and gungame and at specific time and players didn't care about the objective. They were treating control like TDM.
The game has been out for more than 5 years and Respawn couldn't figure out how to evolve the game beyond BR.
6:05 ish, @grrt this is actually wrong, it was ‘confirmed’ individual cases of pc being compromised, pirate software was streaming with hal or something and they were going through the pc and a connection drop got detected just as they were heading off which indicated to him that his system was compromised
One important part that wasn't noted was changes to sbmm, the core game (mechanics and movement) are amazing, making it fun to play casually, but the crazy sbmm makes games unplayable after a long days work
I quit cause i'm a cosmetics oriented person and cosmetics became more and more predatory to get, I already was struggling to find it in my budget to spent 100-150$ for an heirloom for my character, let alone 300-400$ for a universal heirloom, not to mention the new tier of skin above legendary legend skins...
I understand they have to make profits but locking EVERYTHING cool behind money isn't the play.
The recent addition of sticking health bars is I think a good example of how respawn don’t even care: they didn’t play test the idea, because several legends, like mirage, had their skills fucked with (mirage clones have no health bar)
Te reason i quit apex wasn't all you just mentioned. It was the servers!
I'm running the game on low end pc. Although I'm whitin the steam minimum requirements for it, the game is lagging HARD, and it makes the game for me personally completely unplayable! Everytime they relese a new update it screws up the game and it becomes a shitty mess.
And keep in mind that I'm a season 0 player. I started playing before Octane was released. I got addicted pretty fast to the game, and considered myself a good player. I enjoyed playing the game, and enjoyed learning new movement teck, but the laggs were starting to frustrate me. Now I occasionally enter foring range to see if the laggs are there, and usually get all red icons, then I quit and hope they fix it. I'm still updating the game hoping they fixed something, but I get disappointed quickly knowing that they woud rather relese new skins and money grab items then fixing the game.
P.S. To anybody wondering "Why dont you just buy a new pc"?
I started working recently and becouse life is unpredictable, I usually spend money on other more important things(although I'm starting to save up some money for it though).
I think saying that Respawn is greedy is a stretch. I think if they had free reign over their game, it'd have a way higher player count. This seems like it's mostly on greedy EA shareholders.
EA is greedy. Respawn is lazy and unqualified. They are doing the least amount of work possible (cosmetics) to pull in the most money to keep EA happy. This is what happens when you have a bunch of unsupervised covid/diversity hires working from home and the ones in the office who are there for the wrong reasons. They are also tasked with updating and maintaining a game built on an engine that the people who built the game from the ground up struggled with. Then we get a big sob story when 200 Q/A employees get laid off. Looking at the state of the game before and after I have to ask myself. WTF were those 200 ppl even doing? Sadly the real talent left long ago.
Eh I'd agree but don't forget it was respawn that called the players freeloaders when they complained about the iron crown event, I'd say they're just as guilty as EA
Bruh stop bringing up this stupid argument. Both ea and respawn are in it together, stop trying so hard to pinpoint and scapegoat 1 side.
Copium, the game is hot trash, and the player base knows this. Dropping down from the ship, having to loot just to be killed by the 4th 3rd party after 1 minute of gameplay. Then back to the main menu to repeat the process.
0 account progress outside of battleroyal feels pointless to play anything else.
@OldgenRictofen the game in itself is not objectively trash. Don't say your opinion like it's a fact. More people would agree that the base gameplay is good than say it's bad
Apex fixes anticheat: Player rate skyrockets.
Them just being transparent similar to pubg and their weekly ban update, then I think more people would play.
They are scared to address it thinking it'll do the opposite and bring attention that there are cheaters.
It would probably crash for a few days
@@eisgnom7383 SO WORTH ITTTT!!!!
They punish players who take the time to get good by removing or severely nerfing bunny hop healing, punch boosting , tap strafing from rollers while allowing cheaters to do as they please it's only a matter of time before it's titan fall all over again
I dont think it was a bad idea to take out tap straging from roller. Ive played day 1 on controller and mnk and the aim assist was way too strong. I went months without touching a roller and when i decided to play with roller again i was 100% better. Yes it takes skill to use movement but roller already has its perk which is aim assist and mnk can use their whole arm but it doesnt amount to much if you just cant aim. Mnk has movement no aim assist but roller had aim assist and movement and it was not fair
Too much movement would prob kill the game even more tbh
@emma6648 it would if apex made the game easier for movement but it does take a lot of practice and skill to actually use movement in game without cfgs
Reject the Substandard modernity of Apex. Embrace tradition, and return to quality. Return to TitanFall 2.
Apex is being killed: ❌
Apex is committing seppuku: ✅
7:23 the 3008 music💀💀💀
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There's no casual player base. As it stands, their model is designed to encourage "career" players, but consequently pushes away casual players. You're either a sweat or a temporary player.
Without investing in fun/casual play, they're losing out on a massive number of players that would otherwise stick around longer.
Games cooked
Brilliant video man. Very entertaining and streamlined. So sad what happened to my favorite game😭😭😭 Keep it up Garret I love u!🐐❤️🔥 Let’s hope Respawn clutch up big time🙏🙏🙏
I dropped the game along with my friends a bit into Eclipse. My console friends thought cross progression came a little too late and I was bored of the extremely expensive cosmetics and nothing else to look forward to in events. Not even the Final Fantasy event brought me back despite me being a huge fan.
As casual players, the lack of legend and weapon releases are what got us.
Nearly forgot about apex tbh, THE FINALS is just so much better in every regard. Respawn won't ever be able to get me back into Apex, here's hoping they figure it out for Titanfall 3.
Destroyer was showing the hacks that they already had on their computer. Gaming industry "pros" is rigged.
No more revenant lore no more me playing apex
Great video. I myself have not played apex this season. The main reason behind that ranked is a mess.
Since the ALGS situation I refuse to play and told my friends not to play it either, having your PC vulnerable to who knows what like that is crazy
The game has some of the best FPS bones of any FPS out there, please stop letting this game die and start fixing issues respawn/EA
tired of bugs and game breaking glitches. tired of horrible, greedy events. i decided i was done with this game when i saw THE GRAND FINALS of the BIGGEST APEX EVENT get HACKED LIVE MID GAME. HOW IS THIS SOMETHING YOU GUYS JUST SWEEP UNDER THE RUG? WEAK GAME AND WEAK DEVELOPERS THAT DONT CARE.
Then leave, also are you telling me no game has had people that downloaded software that had a RAT? If you even know what that is. The two people that were affected had download software which had the RAT. Apex is fine until it comes to the shitty community, yes it has monetization just like other games, it's been alive since 2019
The game is not alive rn idk what you're saying @@lvkillawolfvl1921
@@lvkillawolfvl1921zip it up when ur done
Trying to blame the loss of players on nerfing controllers is idiotic. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that either of those controller nerfs caused a significant loss of players and the graph certainly does not prove this. In both cases the player numbers were already on a decline and actually saw a spike post nerf. The original poster is clearly just some salty loser crying that his objectively broken input got nerfed.
If people quit bc they nerfed controller then that’s a massive skill issue
They'd have inevitably quit anyway. I play controller and arguably got better after the nerf. Used to play A LOT of BF4 AA off, so it actually helped me out 😂
@@mattw6705 if your aim, on controller, is better post nerf.... you are not playing controller right
@@miclwastaken AA f'd with me, having it lower helps. Idk what your on about.
@@mattw6705 what I am on about is this: if aa is fucking with you, you are aiming horribly wrong.
i left apex about 2 years ago. So yeah, i think its pretty accurate that i wasnt the only one that has left
I stopped playing Apex Legends with Season 22, when they changed the Battle Pass system and UI. Until then, I had played continuously since Season 4.
Apex was a flash in the pan and I'm surprised the key jingling has lasted so long with this game
Apex Legends reached its expiration date since about november of 2022, the fact that it’s still alive today surprises me
Yep the algs hack is the reason why i lost all interest with apex
Idk why i just feel like that is such a big blunder, i lost trust toward EA and respawn
I never seen a game got hack that badly
The Problem with Live Service Games is that at some Point its not a Game anymore its a Lifetsyle keeping up with every Drama,Mechanic,Changes etc.
So I returned to Apex after like a year the other day. Queued Trio filled, first game 3, both of my teammates are bots, went afk, saw like 10 bots walking and punching walls all dropping in one area, deleted the game again.
Apex is the one of the most creative games you can play is not a easy game but it’s a really legend of a game man come on
The ALGS hacking incident was a huge blow IMO and constantly getting matched with preds. My friend and I at the beginning of this season got a game with Verhulst as our teammate. A PRO PLAYER BRO
Two things I think could fix pretty much all the issues. Deal with the cheaters obviously, but also legitimize R5 reloaded. That side of the community is criminally underrated, and could transform this game into one still played in 20+ years.
As someone who quit 2 years ago, i am pretty good at the game was 2.4 kd but the game didn't feel fun at all playing against 3 pred players in the same lobby as me at times ranked felt more casual than casual lobby
You know its bad when the gameplay switches to Helldivers 2 instead of the game he's talking about
im suprised you didn't mention that time where if we logged into the game we lost all our cosmetics and reset our level to 0 that was def another huge factor for some players
finally! the return of the "it didnt die, it was MURDERED" titles
personally, I quit when they implemented cross save. They removed dozens of badges from my account, reset all my kill trackers, and I guess it just felt like they don't care at all. SO many companies have figured out cross save, and I think apex might literally be the only one I've ever seen do it so poorly. It's genuinely pathetic.
Apex was my favorite game. I have over 2000 hours on it and have spent at least 1k in over 5 years. It wasnt getting any better in the past year and the last time I played was the revenant rework and maxing the battle pass. Respawn must change the matchmaking and servers to get anybody coming back like myself. I miss playing wattson man
i stopped playing bc it wasn’t fun anymore. unless you have full trio of friends, the randoms are drool for brains and everyone else in the lobby is an absolute sweat, even in unranked.
This is the first apex video I've watched in seriously like a year. I haven't played or touched it at all. I feel better for it too