Enter the Gachaverse
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- The Gacha Life/Club fandom is universally known as the worst internet fandom around, but why? Who established this narrative? And is there any evidence to substantiate the claims? Today I’m going into the world of Gacha Life to find the truth behind the worst internet fandom.
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0:00 - Introduction
3:32 - The Many Flaws of Gacha Life
7:04 - Creativity Killer
8:13 - Gacha Fandom
9:59 - Gacha Hatedom
11:41 - m e m e s
12:56 - Gains
13:15 - Gacha Heat
15:13 - Drama
15:47 - Conclusion
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It’s sad how it’s gotten to the point where if you’re part of a fandom, your only as good as the worst person in it.
furry fandom moment
@@TheBadGamer2- in the furry fandom, everyone is the worst person
(they all fuck animals and minors)
Well at least the good can do something about the bad
@@ivoneo2806 except they can't because the good gets hate despite being good because of stereotyping
True
The Gacha iceberg is gonna be WILD
The amount of drama & controversy regarding this supposed "kids game" is as long as furry drama.
it is not only furry drama. it's a lot more
The gacha iceberg is probably even longer
"Kids game" meanwhile half the players are actual Child predators....
@@ToxicMothBoi half is an overstatement
its as long as any major internet fandom drama.
The entire Gacha community is a prime example of why giving children with unrestricted internet access an opportunity to make anything with any characters they want and show it to the masses of children also doing the same is a very not good idea.
Actually true tho
Yeah it’s so fucking weird lmao
true, it simply ''hits the nail on the head''
Fr
This
You brought up a great point.
I realise now that despite the original games (not studio games of which were the only mentioned) being real games,
They still are "Gacha" games. While i was lucky to not have a gambling addiction despite the hours I spent as a kid on the "Gacha world" Game,
I see how that could develop if i wasn't locked out of microtransactions, i think i will defend even the more gameplay oriented games less.
I struggle from another addiction and I never considered addiction on the table until you pointed it out, thank you.
To be honest the gacha in gacha life was one of the most forgetful thing in the game and had almost no impact on the "gameplay" I'm saying this as someone who played gacha life and then a fuckton of other gacha games without spending a cent on them.
same here
@@marseillejoh a lot of sneaky games out there have ridiculously expensive items in them, not just Gacha. Not saying its good, but theyre not the only ones
@@kirbokitty77777 It’s not very kind to speak bad about a community
@@Lilac_Cloud2 im in the gacha community
lumine should get the crown for making a fandom that satan himself is afraid of.
"Do You Think God Stays in Heaven Because He too Lives in Fear of What He's Created"
erm askhally its lunime🤓🤓🤓
Erm, I just wanted to say, I'm a huge fan. - Satan himself, probably
Respect to Lunime who didn’t dip after he sees this shit
you know its bad when the carrier of sin cant look at sin
Little does T3rror know, luni will never return to the old games
Gachaverse is the first to actually use that style, of course older luni games used things like that, but gachaverse started to build on the character customization aspect
Now after watching the full video, I agree with almost all of the points you made. Also, yeah, “why use gacha life when instead you could get a life”, it worked for me.
Isn't luni dead
@@Kosta991 that was a different luni I’m pretty sure
@@Kosta991nope he's currently developing a non-gacha game (well it was, but i heard it's a horror game)
I don't know if you knew this but Gachaverse comes BEFORE Life and Club. So Gacha Life is an "improvement" to Gachaverse, and Gacha Club is an "improvement" to Gacha Life.
I mean they are pretty much identical
AYYYYYYY FELLOW TOH FAN
Yeah I was so confused when he said gachaverse came after gacha club 😂
@@liliecoffey8846 it's fine because they all suck
@@Lumberjack_king at least gacha club has more features for customisation tho lol
To address the "Why use Gacha if you can just draw" point I just wanna say that I don't think it was ever intended to be used for art purposes anyway. When people create art content from it I think it's very much a preference thing.
In my experience I've been using Gacha apps for about 5 years now and I think I draw pretty well anyways (if I do say so myself, I've been drawing from like 3 years old but idfk). I mainly use Gacha for videos but it's really just for the fun of it and how I can stretch the app's limits to create something above average 'screenshot slideshow videos' the community is notoriously known for. Plus it depends on what the person wants to use, just because I can animate or draw doesn't mean I always have to whenever I wanna make content, and I do create drawn animatics every so often too.
TLDR: We use Gacha because why not lol
Okay in retrospect this comes off as "I use Gacha when I'm lazy" and... that is true in my case. But I can still draw guys come on don't come at me-
And like I said I stretch the limits of the app, my storage always suffers from the amount of screenshots I take istg-
Some Gacha content still takes effort, guys! We're not lazy!
okay cool
I just use AI pfp instead
@@hydradiagonal3404 Now see, AI is a completely different story...
I have mixed feelings on it, if you use it for fun or as a pfp then that's completely fine
@@hydradiagonal3404 Ai produces the ugliest shit dawg wdym
Same lol
"why use gacha life when instead YOU COULD GET A LIFE"
- sun tzu, the art of war
Now I get what he was saying in the start of the video 🤦♂️
The art of war… Great book.
I don't wanna..
And make your father come back
@@Kirbyfan45 bro u just posted cringe. You’re gonna lose subscribers
Nobody tell him that gacha verse came out before gacha life / club
Too late
Fr it's when the video lost me 💀
I never knew that before
@@Theepicgolem123WHAT.. I mean it’s literally clear if you basically check the color pallet and see that Gachaverse>gachalife>gachaclub it gets better
I don't think that matters that much
As a person that used to be in the gacha fandom, I will say my response to this video. I think that this video explains well on the situation of the community and its horrible reputation. When I was in the community a few years ago, most of the community was just a normal and generic community. Sure there were some rlly good edits here and there but most of it was just unfunny memes, reaction videos, meme animations and some decent edits. The heat part of the community was basically a small portion of the community that the majority wanted to stamp out. I feel like commentary youtubers reacting to gacha life cringe on the r/gachalifecringe subreddit so they could get ad revenue to pay rent accidentally caused their fans to bully gacha fans out of EXISTANCE. I can say that the gacha club is a massive upgrade to gacha life because of the more creativeness with its mechanics. While I do think the community is cringe, the community against it is sometimes worse than the gacha community. They will flat out dehumanize any gacha kid with a pfp and bully them until they give up. There was a period in the gacha community where some red bitch (I forget her name) was a gacha youtuber and said the most out of pocket stuff in order to get views. It’s basically the same as what Lisa gaming did. Do something out of pocket, free views. Luckily it pretty much ended and everybody forgot about the yt, but other ones followed that same formula and kept the period going for a solid few more months. The last thing I need to address with the “learn how to draw” thing. I think that statement is a little too overboard because practically all of gacha community uses mobile. Ive seen a lot of talented work come out the community using both drawing and editing the characters. Just let them do their thing with the training wheels and soon enough they will learn how to do some really talented drawing. In conclusion, Gacha life is basically a average community with a small portion of the community being bad, the only thing different from other communities is that it gets dehumanized and bullied to DEATH
(Im prob gonna get bullied in the comments anyways)
You are right,
YOU ARE GONNA GET BULLIED AHAHAHAHAHAHAYAHAH
@@Clipped-Kid omaygot ambatukam
@@CheckrBoard yes it is an l
@@CheckrBoard yeah it really does explain the community right now. I am a VA for gacha mini-movies and really it's pretty much a mess. I think that people who hate on gacha are probably 10 yr olds who think they're funny or something, but the community is also filled with like 10 yr olds so it cancels out. I'm not 10 *(bc if i was i wouldn't be VA'ing)* but I still feel like a lot of the community are just pre-teens.
bruv no wayereayaewere its amusk form roblos dors tors wobox
Little does T3rror know, Gachaverse came out before Gacha Life.
Exactly
True
As a gacha community member, i can explain everything. Honestly the community hates itself, heat is the main problem as gacha life’s heat-blocking thingy is only on certain devices, on gacha studio you can’t do anything. On gachaverse there’s nothing to do. On gacha club you either are annoying, are good, or do heat. Everyone blames the creator but it’s the community’s fault, everyone made extreme problems that the creator couldn’t handle at all.
Same and agree
Actually, it's the community that makes gacha heat bad. They give it FAR too much attention. That's why I left. These stupid children dont want anything else besides drama and crappy content unless one gets lucky and becomes the exception.
Also, I dont think Lunime (Creator) is any good either. If you played his older games, you would see heavy sexualization of underage characters. I wouldn't call him a pedo though. Most of those are just allegations.
Btw, I been In the community for well over 4 and a half years. I seen the worst.
Why be a gacha member to begin with? Where is the interesting part?
shut up
@@andromeda368 Didnt climb enough pines i guess.
What's sad is that prior to Gacha Life the gacha games were actually pretty good in terms of lore and communities. I don't know why you hadn't included games like Gacha World and Gacha memories (And Actual fleshed out RPG and a Visual novel.)
they just arent as famous as gacha life, gacha studio or club. and gacha world doesnt even work on newer devices
honestly i love your coverage of the gacha series because of instead of just ripping on the community but instead actually giving a real in-depth analyses on the game
Former gacha club person here, its really sad how everybody including random people ruining gacha club. I stopped using it and i run and hide away when someone comes near me or i turn it off because i dont want to be called a loser or smthin like that. Its really sad how i cant even make anything revolving about gacha club nor watch anything about it. It's kinda sad. Thats it.
(Ps: i have REALLY sensitive feelings, so I really can't take being called a loser.)
yea iwatch gacha bc of crossovers i cant find them anywhere exept in gacha
watch
loser
It was only aimed to childrean because it grew popularity with kids. The games were originally meant for young adults, so that's why some people were claiming that some outfits in Gacha Studio were "inappropriate". Also I quit gacha and never came back.
*children
Same i quit
Me too I quitted when I was 13
W
how are you liking having your dad back?
Alternative title "How Satan himself was scared of one thing."
It’s such a stupid thing
To be scared of.
It's the community he's terrified of
"yeah i'm not touching that with a 10 foot stick, which i have a lot of, because i impale people on 'em!"
Its literally the Fifth circle of hell. Like, fighting each other and trying to game end eachother. Like in the game. Like in the 5th circle of hell.
theres like a billion freaking gacha abuse vids bro.
I use gacha rarely but when I do I mainly just use it for a general idea of a character for writing or drawing. It’s a way for me to visualize the character, mainly the colors, so my writing and drawings are a little more consistent as I have some memory problems. I don’t post anything I make on gacha anywhere but I have used it. Anyway great video and points that I mainly agree with!
Why use gacha when there are better tools for reference, especially on the internet?
@@nitthewix3987 It is a easy and free app that I can get on my phone to quickly reference a character. Also its more cartoony style is simple and easy to read to me also I have a more cartoony style for drawing plus it gives a somewhat ok color palette that visualizes how well some colors would go with a certain personality or role.
I used to do the same at some point, but stopped when I started using Pinterest for references and learned how "concept sketches" work
i watch them bc of crossovers
When I was 7 years old, I did not know what a "smartphone" was (because the smartphone entered the Algerian market in 2015 according to my memory) so My childhood games are real-life games (cars, planes, etc.) and a snake game on a Nokia phone, and now as a 15-year-old, What I see, what my younger sister watches on RUclips, and what she plays, I feel nauseous from everything she witness, And now because I'm babysitting my sister, I have to watch all of these things everyday...
Try and find new activities off the electronics, interest her in other things to watch. Distract her from it she'll forget. maybe your parents can't manage what she is watching but you can that is if you choose to help her. You can press on "not interested" if you see something that she shouldn't be watching
@@fivenightsatthefreddys Thanks, I will try to do this
“Why use Gacha life” Because it’s fun??? You’re completely ignoring the fact that not everything people do is for the sake of improving. Gacha is used by so many because it *fun.* Animation memes are made because they’re *fun*. I hate your mindset that everything everyone does it for a reason and not just because they enjoy it.
I agree, you just spoke my mind
How is It fun?
ok? but you missed the point of the video lol gacha life? more like get a life lmao
@@Majestic_Dirt man fuck you..I'm tired seeing you
@@inkedthedemon and I agree with you
I am a little surprised that Gacha Life got so popular so quickly
It's always been since 2019.
im just as surprised to see how fast it died, but then again its the internet
Dude has been using the internet for 2 years
@@kootunesscrewy wasn't it 2018?
@Calokifilm Gacha never died.
It just became more respected after a while, like Vyond, and it hasn't got much anger since like 2021.
This is a surprisingly thoughtful video on the subject. I do not play the games, or consume any content, but I think the main appeal of the series is the art style. I unironically love the way the characters look.
Even in NSFW form?
@@Stabbingparrot How is this the first thing you thought when you read the comment 💀
@@awalkingflop his intrusive thoughts won
@@awalkingflop I am the guy who reads terms and conditions. I read every detail
@@Stabbingparrot The fact that is the first thing you thought about is a sign that the gacha fandom has a VERY stained reputation... :(
Me as a Gacha Average Player I AGREE in what is happening and how the Community is getting worse, is just sadness over sadness in this Fandom.
Learn to draw
I hope you are better than the fandom
@@TheUltimateGoon64 my god let the man enjoy a game he likes
@@TheUltimateGoon64 the picture looks drawn, but you can't really distinguish the difference.
@@TheUltimateGoon64 how about you do the same, too?
The reason why people use Gacha is simple; it’s fun. Sure it has a bunch of problems, but everything does and you just have to not have them define you. It doesn’t matter what others think, as long as it is making YOU have fun.
Edit; For people who are saying this comment is cringe, that’s exactly my point. We shouldn’t care if others see us as cringe or not for we should just enjoy life
Ew thats so cringe to say 🤓
@@imagery5425 you literally used the nerd emoji, that’s the cringiest thing you could’ve done
@@inkedthedemon it was satire lol
@@imagery5425 there was literally no way to tell
@@zenviothe nerd emoji was was representing the person saying it
I'm a Gachatuber and I'm heading off to an art school during the summer and an animation school in fall
Having a Gacha profile picture doesn't affect your skill at drawing, I make Gacha videos because I find it...fun.
But no, everyone these days assumes we're all doing it for money and I'm honestly getting sick and tired of it.
Earning money is a nice benefit.
It's NOT the main goal of a majority of Gachatubers.
We make Gacha videos because we find it FUN
Not to improve our art, not to make money, but because we want to have fun.
Erm stop having fun
@@TheUltimateGoon64why
@@TheUltimateGoon64 What?
@@TheUltimateGoon64 TRUE
Exactly this! I never plan on making money by using Gacha. That’d be way too stressful for me. I do it because it’s fun and makes me happy, and that’s what it’s all about :]
The internet is basically "if you like it, someone else hates it" and more stuff
I like Kuromi?
I'm aware people might hate it.. but I don't give a fk about them.
I used to be a part of the community in 2019. I watched these miraculous ladybug videos and such. It seems the community has gotten worse, I’m very happy I left…
Same. I used to play it in 2020
What do you do now
@@Lumberjack_king I make meme videos and am planning on making rhythm game videos
@@ShikiWithGlasses cool
@@ShikiWithGlasses cool I like rhythm games
Gachaman: into the Gachaverse
I use Gacha club because I just generally like to. I like pushing myself with the app limits and seeing how creative my can be. I can draw and stuff, and I do, but I prefer to make stuff in Gacha because it’s a lot less stressful. Yeah the stuff I’ve made and make is kinda cringe, but it makes me happy.
As a member of the gacha community, I completely agree with everything mentioned in this video. A lot of the community are kids under the age of 12 who make content rather... concerning- from 30 second long stories about an unrealistically abusive families, to whole 10 minute long videos with more than 2 parts about a person who became from homeless to a schoolgirl finding a soulmate using a certain colour that appeared on their hair and almost sewerliding, to "trends" about being SAed, yes, the gacha community is very fvcked up. But this is actually exactly what you said in the video. These messed up videos are usually made in gacha life, have random tags etc, and with more people noticing only those ones, it covers the entire community and gives it a bad name.
As to answer the question "why would anyone use gacha", for me, I just like being in the gacha community. Making animations with Gacha Club is just something I take interest in, and sharing it with other creators who aren't controversial or make controversial content is actually fun. If you have a problem with me and people like me for simply something we take interest in, that's a pretty big red flag that you're one of those cringe culture low lifes as stated in this video.
12:43 Little note: the gachatuber here is one of the most controversial of all time. We don't claim this one.
As someone who is also in the community I agree aswell.
Ok
I am Literally in the gacha Community but..i Actually couldnt agree more! Our Community is really f*cked up...
you're the kind of gacha user that i wouldnt shoot
Yep couldn't agree more
Fr
yeah but i kinda hate it that ppl say such mean things about the community like all f us are bad just saying
@@lukapie welcome to the internet, kid.
gachaverse came BEFORE gacha life and gacha club, it was really good when it released, the community wasnt utter shit and the game was a huge step up from gacha studio
Did you even watch the whole video? He addresses this.
These kind of games really help you understand the structure and systems fandoms and anti-fandoms have. Fandoms which get too big, or the dark side of the fandoms being ostracized by anti fans, which causes a stigma for fans who participate in a fandom. I still can't believe kids so young are also participating in fandom culture, blissfully unaware of all the dark spots that lurk.
I really don't like the fact that liking this game can get us so much hate, There are many minors in this community (Which I wish there wasn't) and if they are targeted for liking this game they can get affected by it very badly.
as gacha player i really can't tell you to take this video down (which i am not telling you to do anything like that) this is just for anyone who is thinking about going after those in the community.
t3rr0r: *makes videos about shitting on both of the gacha games*
also t3rr0r: "DON'T SEND HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
audience: *sends hate*
t3rr0r: Oh no! Anyways.
Fax
Fax
What did T3rr0r expected?💀💀
yeah, its shitty as hell.
really good video, even if I don't make gacha content I can tell you didn't want to make just another "hating the gacha fandom because yes" kind of video, my only issue with it is the "why do they choose to use gacha?" thing you keep bringing up...it's because they like it? It's really not that hard, I know how to draw in a way I like but I still have it on my phone because it's good to just make a character without much effort every once in a while, I almost never use it but I still enjoy it enough to keep it
A streamer I used to watch called Joinen used to watch these gacha stories and he said that he only laughs at them because he makes the assumption that they are made by adults but always says that if a child is making them, he completely respects it because it shows a child's imagination and creativity
I love Joinen, he’s the best
That's stupid. How come children can have imagination and creativity but adults can't?
@@darthadipose1920 I don’t really think that’s what they meant lol, I think they mean that it is an outlet for creativity for both. Just because something shows someone’s imagination and creativity for one group of people doesn’t mean it doesn’t for another, like my mom says “just because I called you pretty doesn’t mean I think your sister’s ugly”. I could be wrong though, so take this with a nice jar of salt
Edit: I realized I worded this weirdly but hopefully it’s still understandable
@@VillaDeCafeJoinen refrains from making fun of gacha stories made by children because they show the 'imagination and creativity' of the child, but doesn't if they are made by adults, implying that he either thinks that adults don't have imagination and creativity or that he thinks that their imagination and creativity is deserving of less respect than the children's.
@@darthadipose1920 I’ve seen a lot, if not all, of his Gacha reaction videos, and he never seems to be mean-spirited at all... but whatever you say I guess
"Learn how to draw" Not everyone wants to or can learn how to draw. If people want to use Gacha to create characters, let them. I agree that the Gacha games are bad because they're all copies of each other and the gambling mechanic is predatory, but some of us just want to enjoy a little of dress-up. Plus dress-up games like these help me come up with designs that I can modify later when drawing them. It's less overwhelming than starting from nothing. Just let people have fun. Please.
Edit: Also getting upset that people will "never improve" if they use Gacha for animation...? Why tf do you care? Genuinely, who gives a shit?
Fax
Cope
idk if you watched the video but i dont think he said to stop using gacha for animation, just said that it was limited.
Bro wrote a whole document on RUclips 😂
@@Xotic113 Bro doesn't know how to read 💀
remember when the older gacha games actually *live up* to its name and have gacha as its main gimmick?
where has the time gone?
Well I mean, the whole point of "gacha life, club, verse" is supposed to be a official creator maker, but I suppose that it got bypassed and there are less family Friendly.
Also there is an app called "gacha animator" which says "no gacha heat" in the old versions, yet the creator removed bad stuff in there.
Its character design is cool and cute, but the community is one of the most unhinged places.
3:13 bro thinks he's Undertale frisk 🤦🤦💀
As a gacha VA for VA series, it's a pretty humble place where i'm at. Everyone doesn’t disrespect each other and we have a good time. Whether it be animating, talking, voice acting, or just doing random stuff we're still having fun nonetheless. I wish the community wasn't stereotyped like it is but it is what is it, even there's parts like mine where it's chill. Tbh where i think all the stereotypical garbage comes from is the stuff on tiktok to be honest, along with the overused *cringy* mini movie garbage gachatubers make. I still stand and think that i love being apart of the community, but sometimes the community is bad. Like most communities lol
Wow dude Gatcha? You really sunk to that low level… ceringe (I’ve haven’t Han an original thought in my life 🤓)
@@imagery5425 "gatcha" "ceringe"
@@ix_reii obviously joking
@@pizzaman2726 ik but the spelling is funny- like can I not point it out? srry if it's offensive
@@ix_reii ohmaygot... Ambatukam!!! (Ohmaygot grieving his best friend ambatukam during world war 2)
I used to be a 'gachatuber' i had chosen to ignore the bad people in the community and enjoy my stuff. Until i saw a gacha video called 'ww2 leaders react to how 2 basic ft Hitler Stalin and Hirotima'
I decided it wasnt for me anymore
Why...
i thought it was an ERB-like video lol when i read it
Valid
Everything you said over those 17 minutes and 20 seconds, covering up and reasoning with people, overviewing the games, all that etc., was straight facts 🔥🔥
You summarize games like no other, Terror.
Including the fatherlessness of gacha? Pure fax
Great video! I'm not involved in the gacha community that much anymore because of the toxic community and I simply got bored of it. I only use gacha nowadays to just play out small skits to give me a general idea of what to draw or write about. But I rlly appreciate gacha because if I never got into it, 2 of my most special ocs (who live rent free in my head 24/7 btw) wouldn't even have EXISTED, and if they didn't exist, I would've never gotten into drawing. So yeah, despite the bad community, I owe it all to Gacha life for basically being the peak of my creativity.
I really like how you bring up the point that these really talented gacha channels are limiting themselves due to the limitations of all the gacha games
Limitations of fatherless things, you mean?
@@marxthereal742 lmao 😐
idk i’m sure most people would rather put out their ideas and work in different ways than gacha, but most people don’t have the resources or talent (yet) to produce something completely on their own. ik when i was 11 and really into the fandom everyone i met who also enjoyed gacha were young kids that also loved drawing but weren’t good at it yet. they all mostly loved anime and animated tv shows too, and it was just a really easy tool to use to make stories that you would want to see in those animations.
and also, you can use gacha life and draw at the same time. i see this argument a lot in this comment section about “why do they use gacha when they can just practice drawing” if they are interested in art they *are* practicing their drawings while also using gacha. idk why some ppl think they cant do both at the same time
@@marxthereal742aren't you talking about yourself? 😂 Cry harder gacha hater
@azazazz099 guess people dont rlly enjoy the chibi style.
you cannot be talking about the quality of gacha games without mentioning the pre-Life games. they're genuinely great and i've had fun playing through all of them! Gacha World doesn't work on most devices anymore but it's genuinely great. the storytelling is a little rough but the gameplay is fun and the gacha mechanics are rewarding and you literally can't beat the game without lower units. give it a try, it's fun!
🤓
gambling to talk to anime girls
Wow... Very immersive and interesting 🙄
Finally, someone who mentioned it! Gosh that's the second ''Gacha' game I played is the best 'Gacha' game I ever played.
😴😴😴
Fnf reacts to vs your mom fnf mod gacha life reacts animation
most of the gacha community is fine, but its just the toxic people who are runining it.
Fr :/
did bro watch the video????
@@MaskOnDrawz ok
But that's the thing, the gacha community is toxic
Fr! Like Just let me Draw My OC in Peace without getting attacked..😔
In my opinion, animation memes shouldn’t be called “memes”, they should just be called an animation
Like they ain’t that funni unlike real memes
fr
@Sarah T. thats stupid
@@marcelasaenz713 frfr
They're called memes because meme means a piece of media that's shared around the internet a bunch of times
As i, an ex-Gacha member, some of Gacha games that Luni made we're almost finished or did not get any updates at all after few updates (such as Gacha Resort, the last story didn't added after last update in 2017 but the game admin, Charlotte Lee released a text script to show what the last story chapter will be like, as for Gachaverse, Luni didn't add either the story mode or others after few updates since he was focusing on Gacha Life, Gacha Club unfortunately wasn't able to update after the files that he use to update the said app was deleted)
As an artist that has never used gacha life or any type of bases for my art, the whole 'why dont you just draw it all yourself instead' doesnt sit right with me. From my own understanding, editing gacha characters or drawing over them is no different to using bases (Blank drawings made by artists for other artists to draw or trace over with permission). Using bases is kinda like training wheels, or turning down the difficulty slider. Art is VERY hard to learn, and using bases can help keep people have fun making art (which is a lot harder than you would think, especially if youre like me and hope to go pro one day), even if they didnt 'make it themself'. And not everyone wants to git gud at art aswell, its no different to playing a comp shooter or writing. For some people its just a hobby, and thats fine.
And your definition of what an animation meme is kinda not all there aswell. Its also about telling stories/giving lore about your ocs and having fun, both of which you can do if your only changing poses for the funni chibi character. Once again, its also a 'training wheel thing' for some.
And lastly, using gacha as a ref/oc maker for you to then draw is still valid imo. It can be a nice and quick way of getting ideas out and finding direction for making a character. Artists use external software and even games (Mmos are usually best for this lol) as reference to draw from all the time. Sketching out ideas for an oc is a lot longer and more tiresome than just using the funni character creator, and plus that sort of pipeline is more for actual professional character concepts and designs that can have several passes before youre happy with it.
Sorry for writing the entire bible but I had to get that out there, cus i really dont want people who arent artists believing that sort of stuff and garnering any more unnecessary drama and hate towards artists for what and how they create. I love your vids dude, and a lot of the other points in the vid were very valid. But your takes on the art side seem kind of misinformed. Regardless, keep creating dude and everyone else too.
Obama out.
Now that you've talked about Gachaverse and stuff, what about talking about some RAID Shadow Legends: From a Harmless RPG at Launch Back in 2018 to Becoming the Butt of all Jokes on the Internet thanks to the Amount of Sponsorships?
Also watching the video, and I have to agree with your statement not going to lie. Especially the fact that I can draw my character without the need of the Gacha games.
I only like Gacha whenever I don't feel like drawing characters sometimes.
The same goes with GoAnimate too (but I don't use that cringe software no more).
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@@Snooby_goobert // And NordVPN! Tired of--
Man thanks for talking about this, this needs more attention
I will say Gacha World is the best title, and its actually decent, as it has a pretty good RPG, and doesn’t have the “gacha creation” section, other than creating your character, which actually have items costs in-game currency. It also takes a very long time to actually finish, may seem bad, but still is decent. However, it hasn’t been updated since HALLOWEEN OF 2017.
It's sad to see how playing one game can get someone a really bad reputation in life, potentially ruining their own lives
I am a gacha creator, and im very sorry about our bad community!
I try to be positive about gacha, but earlier today, i was called ‘cringe’ for simply showing my character
I do get where people are coming form, but i promise, there’s a good side :]
Btw, i cant draw ❤, It takes time to draw, and i dont have time. All i can do is a 5 minute video. Even then, my storage falls into a deep depression over the span of too many photos, and taking the time to actually set everything up like i do, only to get offended by someone telling me ‘learn to draw’ heartbreaks me a bit, as i dont have the time, and just am not that good at it
Yep
Learn to draw
@@TheUltimateGoon64It isnt that easy
@@TheUltimateGoon64 i dont want to
@@TheUltimateGoon64 NPC comment
As if Gacha cant get worse enough, Gacha Resort exists
Dear GOD that game is just Gacha Heat bait
Note: ive quit Gacha for a while now, i just dont use this account anymore
tbf the series used to be aimed towards teens, but it got popular with children so it started aiming towards that audience instead
you actually explain this very well, although there can be bad gachas, there is also good gachas that make advice, they to amazing animation/editing and even try to tell the gacha community to stop doing gacha heat or try their best to block off kids from the gacha community.
I agree to most points made in this video, but personally i sometimes use gacha life to get ideas for my ocs, since they have lots of accessories; which I think isnt a huge deal. It wouldnt be completely making a character from gacha life, but more just getting inspiration.
*Enter the gachaverse*
Just don't take me with you.
11:47 AYO WHAT KINDA MEME IS THAT
14:46 damn Godzilla be having a rough time being right under that in the search results
I rarely ever use Gacha Club. I only use it to try to make my already existing OCs that I didn’t make in Gacha Club. I just like using the custom thing, I just like to have fun with it, I don’t make content or what ever with it 😅
Also, I don’t remember ever liking the way Gacha edits and videos look. I had a friend who was an AMAZING artist but the only videos she posted were of Gacha Club, I was nice tho and said I liked them. She even made an edit of one of my OCs
Ive been in the gacha community for almost 4 years now and I dont plan on leaving, why? Because it might seem boring to you but dressing up a character and giving it a story is fun to me. I enjoy playing the game and although the community can be weird, talent is still present. Its similar to the furry community (which i am in) I enjoy it!
I do like making my own Ocs in gacha
That’s good for you, I just generally don’t like the art style, many from the fact I draw sonic-like characters but if you like the gameplay and art style that completely okay you do you
@@Thatonemetalsonicfan The art style ok in my opinion but once I learn to draw better Ima transfer my Gacha Ocs in my art style
Calling the gachalife fandom "weird" is one of the most insulting understatements of all time, but then again this is coming from a gachalife fandom themselves, so, can't be too surprised
nerd
The gatchaverse is so bad even satan started going to church 💀
bro that roast is so good💀💀💀
@@Randomnameidk the roast is pretty crap in my opinion
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13:50 “Ha! Shit! You got me” 🙌
I love your vids mate, its a good day when you post
This is gonna be an interesting comment section.
It will be interesting
i bet a lot of them didn't watch the video
man, no rocket propelled grenades? 0/10 worst game ever
how do these children even defend a dumpster fire like this??
Because they are stupid children💀
Braincell decrease
Yes that is a really good point you brought up! There is really good content out there that just restrict themselves to the game in general. But here's another thing to consider: 1. (This is a point you brought up in the video) clout. It's popular, so if we use it we're popular too. Not much to say.
2: it doesn't work with anything else. Most of the creators that I know have problems with their art and their artstyle and its not consistent. They use gacha because it's widespread and is consistent unlike their art. But you're right. We do need to take off our training wheels.
My first introduction to gacha was when I was on a car trip with my friend, and I saw she was playing it and I thought it was a funny little game and I created intentionally edgy characters on her phone. Never thought someone could get turned on by it.
Gachaverse came before Gacha Life.
Yep
its honestly refreshing to see unbiased takes that brings a fresh perspective to the whole gacha debate, you're not the first to critique the obvious lack of creativity in the fandom, but I think the argument about using these apps to draft a character falls flat when you really think about it, it might be useful to get that hairstyle you're having trouble with down but otherwise using a paper doll game is not that helpful, as a digital artist who's somewhat familiar with gacha, countless times have I seen someone draw an oc with an accessory that's so obviously from gacha its actually really distracting, a lot of experienced artists will urge others to use photo reference, as its harder to stylise drawn reference to fit your own artstyle, if one needs help drafting a character, a quick google search or Pinterest collage can be just as if not more effective. In all fairness to those who do this I have used paper doll games before, but it was usually when I was too lazy or artblocked to draw on my own and wanted the characters done quick or just for the fun of it, its not a perfect solution and I switched to a game called kisekae when I use paper doll games because its objectively more in-depth anyways
what's really fucked up is that it's mostly children/underage people making NSFW with Gacha games. There are so many videos I've seen my younger sister watching that includes some gross stuff. And the way they make this is so clueless and poorly written that i dont think an adult could even make it
Fun fact: the gacha “inappropriate content” was spreading so much and was so awful in 2019-2020 that even the news of a certain country talked about it.
The gacha community sucks, and there is no way in defending that. *Yes, i have a gacha profile picture and yes my last uploaded gacha video was 1 and a half year ago.* I guess the gacha community only helped me to learn the basics of editing and character design, and going on with the times i learned how to do things by myself without using gacha. Today, i can edit very well and also draw very well BY MYSELF, without using gacha. I just hope these children in the community will grow up and realize that they need to let go off that “support” of the game. Please, do not join the gacha community guys, not only it is very toxic, but it’s filled with children that have no parental control whatsoever. 👍🏻
I like how I'm getting ads for a game that this video is criticizing.
How.
It's been 2 minutes
STOP IT PLEASE
well, this a great video discussing about the overall gacha community.
now i don't use gacha again that much, i learn to draw without them, and imma be honest, my art improved after i don't trace from gacha again.
You know what’s about to happen if you see terror and a gacha life game
man i still remember those elemental gacha life rap battles, so nostalgic in a way.
I used to be part of the gacha community like 5 yrs ago, but then i realized that i would get fucking BULLIED at school if my classmates found out lol, and also i don't wanna make 1 gacha post a year on like reddit or smth and be considered synonymous with 8 year olds that make hourly vore kink 18+ gacha heat lgbtq+ map pride videos. I did not favour the idea of that too much lmaoo
Chrononically the games were made in the order: Gacha Studio, Gachaverse, Gacha Life and Gacha Club
14:00 THE NOSTALGIA I USED TO WATCH THESE VIDEOS SO MUCH
Imagine that one person can start a war of gacha lovers and gacha haters
this is just beautifull
Bro, if you go into the comment section of a video that's reviewing Gacha Life and look for people with Gacha profiles to bully, my opinion is that you would be no better.
This is a great video that highlights a lot of the problems that need to be in the limelight, and I'm disappointed that people bully other people that play Gacha in the comment section.
he isn't pushing them away, he's just exposing the community for what it was (and still is at times)
@@shinka2109 I didn't mean it targeted against him, I meant it against the (few) people driving people who've played it away, my bad for wording it like that.
@@furiousredsword1037 it's fine, a few bad eggs don't ruin the bunch but it does give a sense of distrust against said bunch of eggs
@@shinka2109 While also making the wider internet assume the community is all bad.
@@furiousredsword1037 a shame really
I used to be a "gacha tuber" but i felt limited so now im an animator and artist.
Good job
@@person_on_the_internet_ thanks.
You finally grabbed your Pencil, aka the DRAW-INATOR.
@@PabloToonimations I was drawing during the "gacha tuber" phase. Like on paper and dogital
Old Gacha user here! I just want to say that Gachaverse is actually not a copy or remake from Gacha Club. Gachaverse is actually the gacha club.... way before gacha club existed. Why was the rpg aspect cancelled? Even I myself and others within the community at its time still dont exactly know why, but I did find it atrocious that they did bring back the rpg element in Gacha Club.... but made it a huge step back that what it actually was meant to be in the older RPG Lunime games. I consider verse as a bit of the forgotten child that is caught up in the mess of what is now the community. Also I do agree with how much the community has become a dumpsterfire. One thing i also do wish to kindly correct you about is that most of the gacha games after the release of Chibi became dressed up instead of rpg elemented so yeah atleast a good other chunk of the half are atleast some part of rpg elemented. But there is still one game that stood out from both dress up and rpg and that was memories which was a novel. Other than that I enjoy this video and i hope to see another cover of the games!
Damn T3rr0r editing is getting better
A lot of stuff that was said in this video I already knew but now I can no longer look at gacha life the same like I used to anymore
Gacha life feels like a fever dream tbh
*children
Wrong comment bro
Friday night fever dreams real
Finding good gacha videos is rarer than finding a good modern disney movie, most videos are random fetish, heat, and wierd stuff, the only good content I can find from gacha videos are the reaction videos, atleast they are somewhat more apealing to watch than a 20 second video of Gacha Heat and probably less of an eyesore and more of a "Ok😐" reaction from the audience..
I try make good gacha videos, but honestly, im weird, so i dunno
@@Theepicgolem123 I checked out one of your gacha videos and let's just say its passible, something that you would watch for a few minutes and leave after your done, gacha heat however, I can only last for a full brief 3 seconds before exiting the video instantly...so yeah your content is definetly a 100Xs better than those degenerate gacha videos..
Heavily recommend RosyClozy and Kittypop Time, gotta bleach your eyes from whatever you just witnessed from the community
@@Theepicgolem123 wouldn’t say your videos are “good” but they’re on the average, or meh whatever
Mika rou: rude
Gacha fandom ( GOOD SIDE ): Ouch
Lunime: just learn it and you will be happy of the quality of the game
"why don't they just leave gacha and draw???" meybe cuz we like it 😐
I used to play the games when I was 13, but stopped because of the community. My little sister still plays, makes characters and does skits on Gacha Life and Gacha Club, but, hey, I’m not complaining about it since she wants to most of the time. I’m not stopping her because it’s her choice and decision.
It's actually sort of sad that people do horrible things with this games, the creator of this game had worked hard on this game so that everyone could enjoy but The community seems to have fallen down a little bit but the game is still enjoyable and fun to play
The Gambling part of Gacha sucks!😒
For being in the fandom, i like the game, especialy editing characters and stories, i was depressed so i returned in the game and this remade my day.
That don't mean i don't see ANY bad point in this Gacha community, i love the good (and sadly very very very rare) part on the community but i absolutly don't like the bad part, all bad points described in the video are TRUE, this is sad but you need to approve it, this is the truth, whatever if you're in the Gacha community or not, you need to see it.
It was a very good video, i liked it, continue like that! 👍
I was too old when the gacha stuff started to surface but it was really interesting to see my little sister invested in the dramas and talk anout it to me. Some things just straight up just weird.
3:55 again you missed the point here, the main feature of gacha series is the character customization so surely the developer wanted to focusing on the character customization (notice that the developer cared about the pose for being sus here 14:50)