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Hey man I just recently purchased a multiscale 7 string Legator and was thinking about swapping the same pickup set into it- how did the overall process go for you?
I put them in my 7-string Ghost. This was my first pickup swap, so it was a little more arduous than it might be for others. The SDs sound miles better than the stock Legator pups, but a lot of the wax broke and fell away throughout the process, so I would suggest potting them afterward to avoid some of the resulting noise issues.
This will sound sacrilegious but could try hot glue or even blu tack between the pickup bobbin and the baseplate to fill in the small air gap. Retaping the bobbins might help too
Did this to my multiscale Kiesel today. Replaced the stock pickups with a Dimarzio Rainmaker & Dreamcatcher. Totally worked and was sooooooo worth it! Thanks for the tips!
I'm almost convinced it can't be this simple, people have been debating over replacing pickups in multiscale guitars for ages in forums - how has no one suggested this? In any case I feel a lot better about buying one now, thank you!
One think to take into account is the pockets in the body. Some guitars come stock with a slanted rectangle, and not a parallelogram, typically active or rail pickup and just use a wider version i.e. 8-strings PU for a MS 7-strings. That can already complicate the game. Also in theory, is you slant the pickup and want to keep the pole piece right under the string, you need a slight change in spacing as well - although, for a 7 strings with a slant of 75°, the difference is about 2mm for the whole width, so 0.33 for each strings, so standard spacing would still be ok in practice. But I can see how it might stop perfectionists from doing that.
Hey Josh, this isn't my own idea, I've seen the modification mentioned on forums a couple of times but I had never seen anyone do it, mind you, Bare Knuckle pickups will do this mod for you with their own custom baseplates. Although I didn't go into this project thinking it would be easy, for pickups with pole pieces it really is pretty simple, however, this doesn't apply to pickups with rails because the routes are still rectangular and not parallelogram
Yes, on paper there is a difference but in practice the pole pieces still line up correctly and it would be pretty difficult to measure any difference once installed in a guitar (less than half a mm, as you said) It's also possible that manufacturers are using standard pickup bobbins for their multiscale pickups, which would mean that their pickups don't line up with the strings regardless, thanks for your input Nicolas!
You are so awesome for sharing this video!! Saved me a huge head ache of trying to figure out how to swap out my pickups because its crazy how they are all so different and yeah barely anyone makes multi scale pickups, which, I can see the dilemma why. I can't thank you enough! You rock.
I have had success with this as well. As long as you are careful and don't damage the wire, you're good. I usually don't even remove the tape. There's usually enough flex to get the pickups into position in the slanted baseplate and screw it in.
Hey man. I have an Epiphone Nighthawk Custom that has a "slant" humbucker on them. Now I am wondering if this process replacement is the same for my case. I plan on putting a Seymour Duncan sh4, cause they dont make the slant version anymore sadly.
Thanks. I just bought DiMarzio D'Activator 8's PU for my Harley Benton R458 MN Fan-Fret. Didn't even consider the pole piece alignment! 🙄 I just took the guitar to a local store today to get them installed , they didn't say anything but a friend mentioned the alignment problem to me later & now I'm a bit panicked. This has calmed me a little, I'm a bit confused about what you are saying about the base plate should I be using the base plate from the pickups I'm having taken out or making a new base plate from something else? Thanks again!
The pole alignment might be less of an issue with higher output pickups. The R458 fanfret comes stock with soapbar pickups which don't have the baseplate required anyway so I wouldn't sweat it too much. Thanks for watching!
Found this as im preplanning to not like the stock pickups in a guitar on the way, did you have to resolder that one connection to the new baseplate? I'm handy with a soldering iron, just didnt see it mentioned in the video. Thanks!
@@lorcanmeister I've replaced the pickups in my guitars a few times now so I'm fairly comfortable soldering. The only thing I don't like to do is drilling for new bridges and tuners 😬
Yes, it's possible if the pickup is reassembled in a way that allows for the parts to vibrate, even a little but the wax potting on/in the coils themselves prevents most microphonic problems and shouldn't be affected by removing the bobbin tape and baseplate
It depends on the number of strings and how slanted the pickups are but for most 7 string multiscale guitars i think a standard 7 string magnet is enough
@@lorcanmeister thank you, i got a 8 string diy guitar, and its multiscale. I want to try not multiscale humbucker, and i want to reconvert it as in video. Thanks, i think i try this)
Bare Knuckle Pickups do them but they aren't cheap and only come in a couple of slants. Baseplates are usually made from brass or nickel (low magnetic interaction) but you could probably use plywood or plastic too. I would use a band saw or hacksaw for just a couple of baseplates.
Awesome video. Do you know if this is possible with fishman fluences as well? I rly want to put the reyes set into my multiscale/fanned fret guitar, but they are designed for the standard ones only... now after months of decision making I'm up with nothing :(
I think it would be a similar case to active EMGs, where they can't be disassembled without destroying them, you'd be better off taking the guitar to a luthier/machinist and getting the slots rerouted for soapbar pickups
I'm afraid a drawing wouldn't help because most multiscale guitars have different slanted baseplates so a diagram that fits one multiscale guitar wouldn't fit another. I know most people don't have the parts laying around but that's why I used the slanted baseplate from the multiscale guitar that I have. Some companies, like Bare Knuckle Pickups, do sell slanted baseplates but getting the correct slant can still be a problem.
At 2:25 in the video I mention that I used the existing slanted baseplate from the pickup that came with the guitar, that way you don't have to buy or build anything custom
EMG 81's will only fit a soap bar route as far as I know, plus they're sealed with epoxy. I have a feeling that fluence pickups might work if you're very careful with the circuit board underneath but I've never owned one to inspect it
You're right, I forgot to turn on the camera before that step so it cuts in straight after it, this guitar has direct mount pickups (screwed straight into the wood) so it's just a matter of removing the two screws on either side of the pickups but for pickups with mounting rings, you need to undo the four corner screws to remove the pickup ring from the body and then remove the two smaller screws holding the pickup and pickup ring together
@@lorcanmeister Thanks for the reply. I'm still a bit confused, does replacing pickups not require removing wires from pots and what not (I know very little about guitar tech)? Basically I just tried to swap pickups between two of my guitars, from a normal to fanned fret guitar, and I got to the point of desoldering from the base plate as shown in the video, then realised there were still more wires going from the pickup to the guitar itself, would this not require more work to remove the actual pickups from the guitar? Sorry I know this isn't really part of the video just thought I would try make it clear what I'm talking about.
Yes, it will require removing the pickup wires from the pots too but before you begin, take plenty of pictures of which colour wires connect to which part of the pot, otherwise it can get very confusing You can find different wiring schemes for different pickup brands online if you get a bit lost
Did you have to solder the new pickups on to the angled baseplate? I saw you unsolder them from the original but not on to the new ones. Just curious if we wouldn’t have to.
Great video! For swapping pickups into Ibanez RGMS7, if I choose “Mark Holcomb Alpha & Omega” or "Nazgûl & Sentient", do I need to choose 7 or 8 models due to slant angles?
Hi! What about waxing the pups? I asked my pickup manufacturer and he told me I need to rewax pickups afterwards. Do I really need that if coils are untouched in your method?
It's possible that it needs to be rewaxed but in my case it wasn't a problem, I've since switched the baseplate back to the stock pickup and it also has no problems. If the pup did become microphonic after this mod then it wouldn't be too difficult to put some hot glue or blu tack between baseplate and the pickup bobbins to fill in the small gap that the wax was in
I'm not sure if it does in this case because they are similar brass alloys, switching from brass to nickel silver might have more of an effect though , thanks for the comment!
They're all on AliExpress.com, the big brand stuff, like Seymour Duncan, on there is most likely counterfeit though. Thanks for the comment and subscription, makes my day!
I'm not sure but if you do decide to do it then I recommend practising soldering beforehand and also buying a cheap pickup to experiment on, most important for soldering guitar electronics are leaded solder and a high wattage soldering iron, good luck!
A little note, some custom pickup builders say the baseplate does have an effect on the pickups tone. Im not saying they are right, but if the baseplate is cheap- you may want to replace with a better baseplate. I.e. epiphone baseplates vs companies like myones
Yeah I believe they do but even DiMarzio are using cheaper brass baseplates whereas Seymour Duncan use better nickel silver ones. There isn't much excuse for it as even cheap Chinese OEMs will provide nickel baseplates in surprisingly good pickups like I've demoed here ruclips.net/video/aL1y-VQ3-tg/видео.html
Great vid and very good info, I'm wondering if this will make the magnet too short to reach all the poles as this would make the pickup physically longer, I guess I'll have to try it when I get home, Thanks!
Thank you! Y'know I tried to cover all my bases before making this video but the magnet length never even crossed my mind! I can't remember whether or not the magnet still touched the outer pole pieces but the pickup still functioned correctly across all of the strings, I think that the magnetic field would be too concentrated at each end for a small separation to make a difference
I am late to this party but just wanted to share what my pickup builder shared with me. "magnets are not laser beams, the magnetic feild extends far beyond the visual boundary of the pole 😜" In short you are good as gold
I had a sound demo filmed but because it was such a cheap pickup (and actually for the neck position) it was worse than the stock pickup, but it shows a proof of concept
I'm glad you asked! It's a piece of music I wrote; ruclips.net/video/KTnMON6AtFo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/9XcIVVMZb4E/видео.html Thanks for watching!
this was great! one question, your video didn't mention it so I assume not, but does this process affect the wax inside the pickups at all? will it need to be re-dipped to avoid microphonic effects?
This process will affect the wax between the baseplate and the bobbins but not the wax on/in the coils of wire. Microphonics are mostly caused when the wire coils in the pickup vibrate and potting prevents this. In theory, removing the baseplate and splitting the bobbins shouldn't affect the wax on the coils but I think it could be a possibility. Hot glue could help if they do become microphonic which would save on having to re-pot the pickup. Thanks for watching!
Hey thanks Jannis! The Chinese pickup was pretty bad to be honest, it was okay for this test but it's definitely worth getting something a little more expensive
@@lorcanmeister Thank you for your answer! I purchased the R-457 Fanfret and the guitar itself is pretty ok but these cheapo active pickups are probably the worst I've ever heard. The even produce a whole lot of hiss to... Thus I'm looking for an akternative that doesn't cost as much as the entire guitar:-)
Good pickups cost a lot because theyre usually made in America and a good sound depends on a talented designer, it's almost like magic, whereas guitar manufacturing is established and widespread, almost any factory can make a great guitar these days, don't be afraid to spend a little extra on some good pickups
Now the only thing I need is courage to tear apart brand new pickups and hope I don't f-up my old ones in the process =D but I'm so doing this right this minute. Reverb my next stop. I gotta say that I probly wouldn't have even come here if Bare Knuckle Pickups didn't take Nine days to reply to me and then replied in a manner that was, let's just say, less than professional. 🤘
I hope you liked this video, it was a question I couldn't find a concrete answer to so I took it upon myself to find out and share the results for you to see. If you like this type of content then subscribe for more, youtube tells me who subscribes for which videos and this lets me know what kind of videos people want to see more of in the future. Here's another video about actual advanced guitar chord theory *not for beginners* ruclips.net/video/TSpQSNNrdkk/видео.html
And now my Legator has a Duncan Nazgul/Sentient set. Totally brought that guitar to life. Thanks for the video!
Nice! I need to get my hands on a Legator one day. Thank you very much for watching!
Hey man I just recently purchased a multiscale 7 string Legator and was thinking about swapping the same pickup set into it- how did the overall process go for you?
did you put in a 7 or a 8 string version of that set? was thinking of upgrading my legator 8 fan fret
I put them in my 7-string Ghost. This was my first pickup swap, so it was a little more arduous than it might be for others. The SDs sound miles better than the stock Legator pups, but a lot of the wax broke and fell away throughout the process, so I would suggest potting them afterward to avoid some of the resulting noise issues.
This will sound sacrilegious but could try hot glue or even blu tack between the pickup bobbin and the baseplate to fill in the small air gap. Retaping the bobbins might help too
Did this to my multiscale Kiesel today. Replaced the stock pickups with a Dimarzio Rainmaker & Dreamcatcher. Totally worked and was sooooooo worth it! Thanks for the tips!
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
@@beltrane79 It definitely works! Hopefully the the Thoriums work, and if not you always have good backup plan!
I'm almost convinced it can't be this simple, people have been debating over replacing pickups in multiscale guitars for ages in forums - how has no one suggested this? In any case I feel a lot better about buying one now, thank you!
One think to take into account is the pockets in the body. Some guitars come stock with a slanted rectangle, and not a parallelogram, typically active or rail pickup and just use a wider version i.e. 8-strings PU for a MS 7-strings. That can already complicate the game.
Also in theory, is you slant the pickup and want to keep the pole piece right under the string, you need a slight change in spacing as well - although, for a 7 strings with a slant of 75°, the difference is about 2mm for the whole width, so 0.33 for each strings, so standard spacing would still be ok in practice. But I can see how it might stop perfectionists from doing that.
Hey Josh, this isn't my own idea, I've seen the modification mentioned on forums a couple of times but I had never seen anyone do it, mind you, Bare Knuckle pickups will do this mod for you with their own custom baseplates. Although I didn't go into this project thinking it would be easy, for pickups with pole pieces it really is pretty simple, however, this doesn't apply to pickups with rails because the routes are still rectangular and not parallelogram
Yes, on paper there is a difference but in practice the pole pieces still line up correctly and it would be pretty difficult to measure any difference once installed in a guitar (less than half a mm, as you said)
It's also possible that manufacturers are using standard pickup bobbins for their multiscale pickups, which would mean that their pickups don't line up with the strings regardless, thanks for your input Nicolas!
It really is that simple :)
You are so awesome for sharing this video!! Saved me a huge head ache of trying to figure out how to swap out my pickups because its crazy how they are all so different and yeah barely anyone makes multi scale pickups, which, I can see the dilemma why. I can't thank you enough! You rock.
Thank you very much! I'm glad I could help
I have had success with this as well. As long as you are careful and don't damage the wire, you're good.
I usually don't even remove the tape. There's usually enough flex to get the pickups into position in the slanted baseplate and screw it in.
This is the best video on the internet
Yes, yes it is. Thank you!
Simple and elegant, really nicely done.
Thank you very much for the compliment RyoCanCan
liked and subscribed. very informative stuff. Can finally buy any multiscale I want knowing how to upgrade the pickups, thank you!
Thank you very much. I'm happy to help out!
I've been needing this video!!! Thank you so much. I thought I was dead in the water and would have to stick with the stock pickups.
Hey, thanks for the comment Derek, I'm glad you found it useful!
Immediately put into favorites 👌🏼
Thanks for great solution Where can I buy the slanted base plate?
if you're willing to do a little more, just drill a new hole in the baseplate or make the existing ones a little wider so you can fit all 4 screws :)
You're right, I was only able to fit two of the four screws in without modification because I didn't have a drill at the time
Man.. this is exactly what I’ve been looking for!! Also, yehoooow, yup Ireland. Co Meath here
I'm from Westmeath myself, thanks for the comment and for watching!
This is the best video ever! I can’t wait to try this.
Let me know if you do try it, thanks for watching!
So instead of totally switching the pickups out, you are putting new bobbins onto the baseplate?
You forgot to mention the resoldering of the ground to the plate. But it is a great vid. Thanks.
Hey man. I have an Epiphone Nighthawk Custom that has a "slant" humbucker on them. Now I am wondering if this process replacement is the same for my case. I plan on putting a Seymour Duncan sh4, cause they dont make the slant version anymore sadly.
so all you need is an open slot in the back of the baseplate, to loosen and slide the bobbins to any angle.
I never thought about that, that's a good idea
Thanks. I just bought DiMarzio D'Activator 8's PU for my Harley Benton R458 MN Fan-Fret. Didn't even consider the pole piece alignment! 🙄 I just took the guitar to a local store today to get them installed , they didn't say anything but a friend mentioned the alignment problem to me later & now I'm a bit panicked. This has calmed me a little, I'm a bit confused about what you are saying about the base plate should I be using the base plate from the pickups I'm having taken out or making a new base plate from something else? Thanks again!
Ahhh I just re-watched and missed you saying it earlier in the video.
The pole alignment might be less of an issue with higher output pickups. The R458 fanfret comes stock with soapbar pickups which don't have the baseplate required anyway so I wouldn't sweat it too much. Thanks for watching!
@@lorcanmeister Thanks.
Smart idea! Definitely what I'll have to do.. Looks like I'm not getting those fluence moderns lol
Very informative thank you!
Thanks for taking the time to check out my video!
Found this as im preplanning to not like the stock pickups in a guitar on the way, did you have to resolder that one connection to the new baseplate? I'm handy with a soldering iron, just didnt see it mentioned in the video. Thanks!
Sorry I thought I responded to this already, yes you do have to resolder that wire back to the baseplate
Would my local guitar tech be willing to do this for me?
This is awesome! Now I'm gonna have to pick up a cheap fanned fret guitar and do this to see how I like it :)
The hardest part is the soldering, my advice is to take your time and take a break if it gets difficult
@@lorcanmeister I've replaced the pickups in my guitars a few times now so I'm fairly comfortable soldering. The only thing I don't like to do is drilling for new bridges and tuners 😬
This video is AWESOME!
Thank you for this. Seriously.
Thank you for the kind comment, I really appreciate it!
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Potentially saved me lots. Thanks you.
Thanks Gavan!
So....all I need to do is cut a new brass plate to match the new angle and I can make them any angle I like?
If i use emg 8 string pickups on my 7 string fanfret would that work as emg actives dont have the studs
where can i get a slanted plate for cheap? VERY good and quick video thanks mate
I know Bare Knuckle Pickups sell them but they aren't cheap and they might not be the correct slant for your guitar.
is there a risk to mess it up and the pickup becomes microphonic?
Yes, it's possible if the pickup is reassembled in a way that allows for the parts to vibrate, even a little but the wax potting on/in the coils themselves prevents most microphonic problems and shouldn't be affected by removing the bobbin tape and baseplate
@@lorcanmeister thanks for the reply. i´ll try it with some old stock pickups first.
THANKS MATE, YOU SAVED MY LIFE
Thanks for watching! 😊
Oh, big thanks, i has a similair things about where to get mutiscale pickups for my handmaded guitar. How about a leight of magnets?
It depends on the number of strings and how slanted the pickups are but for most 7 string multiscale guitars i think a standard 7 string magnet is enough
@@lorcanmeister thank you, i got a 8 string diy guitar, and its multiscale. I want to try not multiscale humbucker, and i want to reconvert it as in video. Thanks, i think i try this)
If I want to put a bareknuckle BlackHawks or Impulse should I do this also? or simply ask the BKP to make a Multi scale for RGMS7?
I'd ask BKP about it to check their pricing before doing it this way
Thanks for the peckups hack mate, cheers.
Thanks for checking out my video, I really appreciate it
Where would you get the baseplates? Or seeing as they sell $200 mini CNC machines now... what metal is it made of?
Bare Knuckle Pickups do them but they aren't cheap and only come in a couple of slants. Baseplates are usually made from brass or nickel (low magnetic interaction) but you could probably use plywood or plastic too. I would use a band saw or hacksaw for just a couple of baseplates.
Awesome video.
Do you know if this is possible with fishman fluences as well?
I rly want to put the reyes set into my multiscale/fanned fret guitar, but they are designed for the standard ones only... now after months of decision making I'm up with nothing :(
I think it would be a similar case to active EMGs, where they can't be disassembled without destroying them, you'd be better off taking the guitar to a luthier/machinist and getting the slots rerouted for soapbar pickups
Dude do you have a drawing of the slanted base plate? That's going to be hard for those who have not a slanted baseplate lying around..
I'm afraid a drawing wouldn't help because most multiscale guitars have different slanted baseplates so a diagram that fits one multiscale guitar wouldn't fit another. I know most people don't have the parts laying around but that's why I used the slanted baseplate from the multiscale guitar that I have. Some companies, like Bare Knuckle Pickups, do sell slanted baseplates but getting the correct slant can still be a problem.
@@lorcanmeister im assuming you did not build the slanted base plate?
At 2:25 in the video I mention that I used the existing slanted baseplate from the pickup that came with the guitar, that way you don't have to buy or build anything custom
Will this work with Fishman open core?
What about emg 81 or Fishman fluence modern pickups?
EMG 81's will only fit a soap bar route as far as I know, plus they're sealed with epoxy. I have a feeling that fluence pickups might work if you're very careful with the circuit board underneath but I've never owned one to inspect it
I'm confused, how exactly do you remove the pickup from the guitar? It seems the video shows only how to remove the pickup from the base plate?
You're right, I forgot to turn on the camera before that step so it cuts in straight after it, this guitar has direct mount pickups (screwed straight into the wood) so it's just a matter of removing the two screws on either side of the pickups but for pickups with mounting rings, you need to undo the four corner screws to remove the pickup ring from the body and then remove the two smaller screws holding the pickup and pickup ring together
@@lorcanmeister Thanks for the reply. I'm still a bit confused, does replacing pickups not require removing wires from pots and what not (I know very little about guitar tech)? Basically I just tried to swap pickups between two of my guitars, from a normal to fanned fret guitar, and I got to the point of desoldering from the base plate as shown in the video, then realised there were still more wires going from the pickup to the guitar itself, would this not require more work to remove the actual pickups from the guitar? Sorry I know this isn't really part of the video just thought I would try make it clear what I'm talking about.
Yes, it will require removing the pickup wires from the pots too but before you begin, take plenty of pictures of which colour wires connect to which part of the pot, otherwise it can get very confusing
You can find different wiring schemes for different pickup brands online if you get a bit lost
Thank you Brendan this has helped me so much with my set up much love
Did you have to solder the new pickups on to the angled baseplate? I saw you unsolder them from the original but not on to the new ones. Just curious if we wouldn’t have to.
Yes you have to solder the ground wire onto the baseplate. You can preheat the baseplate with a hairdryer or on a radiator to make it easier to solder
This is really helpful. With gratitude from Ukraine.
Thank you very much for watching
Great video!
For swapping pickups into Ibanez RGMS7, if I choose “Mark Holcomb Alpha & Omega” or "Nazgûl & Sentient", do I need to choose 7 or 8 models due to slant angles?
If it's a 7 string guitar use 7 string pickups, the slant takes care of itself
@@lorcanmeister yes it’s a 7 string guitar.. ok thanks
Hi! What about waxing the pups? I asked my pickup manufacturer and he told me I need to rewax pickups afterwards. Do I really need that if coils are untouched in your method?
It's possible that it needs to be rewaxed but in my case it wasn't a problem, I've since switched the baseplate back to the stock pickup and it also has no problems. If the pup did become microphonic after this mod then it wouldn't be too difficult to put some hot glue or blu tack between baseplate and the pickup bobbins to fill in the small gap that the wax was in
@@lorcanmeister thank you, I'll try without rewaxing first and see what happens
Doesn’t the base plate change the tone of the pickup?
I'm not sure if it does in this case because they are similar brass alloys, switching from brass to nickel silver might have more of an effect though , thanks for the comment!
I don't have a 7 string multiscale guitar, but I did watch the full video 😂
And thanks👍
Cheers man, you're the best kind of viewer
On which site site were browsing for the pickups? Thanks for the informative video
They're all on AliExpress.com, the big brand stuff, like Seymour Duncan, on there is most likely counterfeit though. Thanks for the comment and subscription, makes my day!
I just bought my first soldering iron. Should I finally buy some Black Winters and install them myself on my fanfret 7-string Harley Benton?
I'm not sure but if you do decide to do it then I recommend practising soldering beforehand and also buying a cheap pickup to experiment on, most important for soldering guitar electronics are leaded solder and a high wattage soldering iron, good luck!
A little note, some custom pickup builders say the baseplate does have an effect on the pickups tone. Im not saying they are right, but if the baseplate is cheap- you may want to replace with a better baseplate. I.e. epiphone baseplates vs companies like myones
Yeah I believe they do but even DiMarzio are using cheaper brass baseplates whereas Seymour Duncan use better nickel silver ones. There isn't much excuse for it as even cheap Chinese OEMs will provide nickel baseplates in surprisingly good pickups like I've demoed here ruclips.net/video/aL1y-VQ3-tg/видео.html
Great vid and very good info, I'm wondering if this will make the magnet too short to reach all the poles as this would make the pickup physically longer, I guess I'll have to try it when I get home, Thanks!
Thank you! Y'know I tried to cover all my bases before making this video but the magnet length never even crossed my mind! I can't remember whether or not the magnet still touched the outer pole pieces but the pickup still functioned correctly across all of the strings, I think that the magnetic field would be too concentrated at each end for a small separation to make a difference
I am late to this party but just wanted to share what my pickup builder shared with me. "magnets are not laser beams, the magnetic feild extends far beyond the visual boundary of the pole 😜"
In short you are good as gold
Does the baseplate need to be of certain material?
Baseplates are usually made from nickel-silver or brass because these are non-magnetic materials.
Can we get an example of how it sounds now?
I had a sound demo filmed but because it was such a cheap pickup (and actually for the neck position) it was worse than the stock pickup, but it shows a proof of concept
Thank you so much dude!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
where you can find baseplate for the multiscale ? if i dont have one
Bare Knuckle Pickups in the UK make them but they're fairly expensive after adding in shipping. I suppose you could also make one out of thin plywood
@@lorcanmeister i will check for this thx you
Can we this on Fluence Open Core pickup?
I don't think so because the baseplate on a Fluence Open Core looks like it includes PCB traces and electronic components on it.
Did you say the angle of the pups is 80 degrees
Yes, relative to the strings, it's 80 degrees on this guitar
@@lorcanmeister do you know any companies that provide pups with that angle? I'm about to have a go like you
@@Joeytemper bare knuckle and guitarmory can make them
Bareknuckle pickups do angled baseplates for £24 when you buy pickups from them
@@lorcanmeister hey I had a go with a Entwistle and very happy with it
What song is this in the background?
I'm glad you asked! It's a piece of music I wrote;
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Thanks for watching!
this was great! one question, your video didn't mention it so I assume not, but does this process affect the wax inside the pickups at all? will it need to be re-dipped to avoid microphonic effects?
This process will affect the wax between the baseplate and the bobbins but not the wax on/in the coils of wire. Microphonics are mostly caused when the wire coils in the pickup vibrate and potting prevents this. In theory, removing the baseplate and splitting the bobbins shouldn't affect the wax on the coils but I think it could be a possibility. Hot glue could help if they do become microphonic which would save on having to re-pot the pickup.
Thanks for watching!
Can this be done with EMG actives?
Nope, EMG active pickups are sealed in their casing with epoxy resin, trying to dig it out would destroy the pickup in most cases
@@lorcanmeister ok thanks for getting back to me. Appreciated!
Nice work mate! Im def gonna give this a go... by the way how did those multiscale pickups from AliExpress sound?
Thank you Matthew! The cheap pickup I purchased was worth what I paid (€10) but nothing more than that
Dude very good video
Appreciate it
This is excellent!! Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
That was a very very nice and well-produced video! How did you like the cheap Chinese pickups you put in?
Greeting,
Jannis
Hey thanks Jannis! The Chinese pickup was pretty bad to be honest, it was okay for this test but it's definitely worth getting something a little more expensive
@@lorcanmeister Thank you for your answer! I purchased the R-457 Fanfret and the guitar itself is pretty ok but these cheapo active pickups are probably the worst I've ever heard. The even produce a whole lot of hiss to... Thus I'm looking for an akternative that doesn't cost as much as the entire guitar:-)
Good pickups cost a lot because theyre usually made in America and a good sound depends on a talented designer, it's almost like magic, whereas guitar manufacturing is established and widespread, almost any factory can make a great guitar these days, don't be afraid to spend a little extra on some good pickups
@@lorcanmeister I went with a couple of EMG 707TWs in the end :) The used price wasn't a whole lot more than the price for new noname pickups.
This is a really good video, thanks!
Thanks for watching Calum!
That is awesome, thanks for sharing it 🤟🏻😎
Thanks for watching Max!
Thanks!
No problem!
Awesome video, well done! Thanks a lot
I'm glad you liked it!
Pure Genius!
Thank you Carlos!
Brilliant!
Thank you!
Now the only thing I need is courage to tear apart brand new pickups and hope I don't f-up my old ones in the process =D but I'm so doing this right this minute. Reverb my next stop. I gotta say that I probly wouldn't have even come here if Bare Knuckle Pickups didn't take Nine days to reply to me and then replied in a manner that was, let's just say, less than professional.
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Done! Now I have a set of Blackwinters in my Schecter C-8 Thanks Brendan! - and 🖕to Bareknuckle.
That's awesome, thanks for taking the time to post an update on it
What pickup manufacturers need to do is make the bottom base plate adjustable.
Yeah, I've thought about a design for an adjustable baseplate but I don't really think there would be a lot of demand for it
Why is a pickup called a fanned pickup?
You forgot to mention to solder the ground wire back onto the plate lol. Fascinating video, otherwise.
Yup I did 😅
Well shit
the seymour duncan pups in the ESP M-1008 are just awful. Scratchy sounding. They are a cheap knockoff version of the real deal. Too bad.
Really?? That sucks! We need a manufacturer to take the lead and start making a standardised multiscale pickup that's as good as the regular versions
It doesn't sound awful because of the pickups, it's sounds awful because it's a 8 string.
I see what Brendan is saying though. I think pickup companies need to make multiscale pickups become a standard item to purchase.
Not all hero wears cape. Ty sir
Thank you!